Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG Review // Gull Winged Fury
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- Опубликовано: 13 дек 2023
- The 2012 Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG ($328,888 listed for sale in Canada, ~$244,000 USD converted) is a high performance car, designed from the ground up by AMG with a 563 horsepower naturally aspirated V8 and iconic gullwing doors. Outside of its exotic style and striking road presence, the SLS AMG has many other things to boast about. Such as a seven speed transaxle transmission, an aluminum space-frame body, and a desirable 47:53 weight distribution front to rear. But these highly sought after gullwing AMG’s fetch quite a high price. Do they drive as well as their pricing might suggest? Thomas and James are excited to find out! We hope you enjoy the episode. And then subscribe, silly.
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We went from this to the 4 pot C63S. It's so painful to be a merc fan in 2023.
Or a BMW fan…
(Casually drowns in rising sea levels)
Same
Go buy a Honda then 😅
I’m not even a huge German guy, but these cars in their prime were absolutely stunning, today’s are nothing but a letdown and slap in the face to what they once were.
That was a hell of a year. The SLS, R8, 412C, 458, GT3 RS, Gallardo all dropped. Yep we'll never see rhat again. I guess i was fortunate enough to live in a great era of performance cars. I missed the 60s muscle cars but I'm thankful for being able to see these great machines.
Fuck this hurts
Is this when all of these cars were released in America or something? The R8 was 2007 and the V10 in 2009, the LP560-4 Gallardo was 2008, and the 458 was 2009.
Can’t forget about the e92 M3 too
@@doggedlydetermined7022 that was 2007
@@TheStigHCE09the OP just squashed 3-4 years together
Can we just appreciate how much better analogue dials look compared to cheap looking digital ones of today. Especially here in the SLS they are as beautiful as a breitling time piece💯
Exactly. It's so elegant.
Honestly I thought that when they did the Latest Rolls Royce one, the digital gauges in that look tacky, thats the one car that a timeless analog gauges just looks completely right.
I recently rented a Hyundai with a full digital gauge cluster and I could never tell how fast I was going. Those gauges were not good. Like really not good.
Analogue is the best and will always be
@@Shay-eo5kpyup. It’s the main reason I decided to keep my 370z nismo. I’m sick of the interiors being destroyed by cheap huge LCD screens all over the car.
There's a reason you see a little Viper in the styling of the SLS. When that chassis was developed it was still Daimler Chrysler. The SLS was supposed to be the next gen Viper but when the companies split, MB took the chassis for their own and created this car. That's why the next Viper was so delayed, they had to start over.
Evidently you can see room for a regular (non-transaxle) transmission underneath the SLS, left over from its Viper development days 😂
I definitely remember that lol. I remember watching a video with the Mercedes Benz SLS AMG Black Series VS the current gen Viper and was in love with the Black Series
I'd love to read about that. Do you have a source?
Start over why didn’t they take the details and schematics did they miss that.
Between the viper is my current lock screen 😂😂😂 to me I feel that’s the greatest American sport car to me. The best car from North America with its own soul.
This SLS isn’t good enough though great but u prefer the sl65 amg more. That’s more rarer than this
I don't think this is true, as far as i know the sls is an original ground up design by the amg division and regular mercedes had nothing to do with it, of course i can't disagree with sources if you have them, but it was a strong marketing point of the sls
I thought Mercedes came to its senses and gave us a V8. 😂. This car is timeless.
Gran Turismo 5 memories brought me here.
Its reminds me of tge terrible quality chrysler crossfire
the design is insanely timeless
It among the most penis-shaped cars ever made
300SL is even more insanely timeless.
Doesn't sound like you know what timeless means.
A Toyota Corolla is timeless
@@gottliebdee263I agree, this isn’t timeless
It's wild how this 10 year old car is so much better than anything Merc currently has for sale
LOL I could say the same about Infiniti and my 10 yo G37xS sedan with 192K on the clock... DI + turbos in the name of fuel economy ruined e-ver-y-thing.
@@jacquesc3166 But the Q60 is a better car that one buys because of Nissan as a company doesn't do redesigns beyond every 10 years. They updated the engine platform to make the connecting rods on the pistons stronger which was an issue on the G35s and G37s. plus the newer Q60s come with the better 9 speed automatic transmissions used in every luxury brand now
@@Crunchymunchys Hahahaha! Lies. You have no idea what you're talking about, and are probably a bot. Rods were NEVER an issue, 10++ years on Ward's engine list between the VQ35DE and the VHR. There's not even a 9 speed in the Q's, you clearly clearly are either trolling or a bot. Complete nonsense, and no links to show for. 🤣
Except the new GT is much faster than this.
well currently they have AMG GT63 which is amazing and also the GT
My neighbor across the street has been daily driving his silver SLS for ten years, I love hearing it pull away from his driveway. Special car from a special time in motoring.
DAILY DRIVING? holy shit, whats the mileage? I don't think these ever get 40k on the clocks as they are worth so much.
@@joesmith9216 I will ask him and report back.
Replying so I can see as well
Report?
@@shreyanssahani275 I replied 2 weeks ago!
The best sounding car I've ever heard was an SLS GT3 when I was testing with my college race team at Snetterton Circuit. The absolute thunder of that thing every time it went past was just amazing.
And they used the M159 engines even in the AMG GT GT3 versions for at least the first 2 years!
Because the M159 was way more suited to GT3 racing and endurance racing than the 4L V8.
(Longer service life on the racetrack than any other MB engine and more natural throttle behavior than the Biturbo after it are just two of the reasons i remember reading)
Oh Man, there's a GT3 SLS booting around Aus at some of the track days i've attended. The sound of them is unparalleled.
@@vtzb8681which track days!? I’m in AUS and would love to bear witness!
@@nirfz they still use the m159 in their gt3 program
@@chiefdenisM159? Is that the latest model from the SLS?
1. I love these retro reviews and 2. This is a timeless design
Y'all could've made this a 4 hour video and I'd watch the entire thing. This is a top 3 car for me. The doors. The sound. It's what GT cars should strive for.
I had the opportunity to drive an SLS Black Series a few years ago. And yes, it is a different animal. Meaner, bolder, louder, quicker. It is until today the most impressive car, I have ever driven. And I have driven Ferrari 458, Gallardo, Aston and 991 Turbo. But the Black Series is breathtaking and I am not even a Mercedes Fanboy.
u have lived my dream bro 😢
I got a go in a Black Series at the end of 2019. It was so dramatic, so much character, honestly a pretty intimidating car. Heaps of fun, a very special machine
I always loved the SLS AMG, especially its timeless design and the gullwing doors!
10:14 I’m starting to see why now Jeremy Clarkson liked this car so much if we would’ve known what the future was going to hold for us for AMG I think we would’ve taken the SLS a lot more seriously
Jezza's genius is staggering at times.
He’s loved and had a lot of cars that are veryvery special now like the sls, lfa, clk black, ford gt, etc. he said as a joke somewhere if he really likes smth and buys it, by the time he sells it they go up in price 🤣
@@bmstyleeI mean, it does generate gravity, so..
I remember seeing and hearing about the SLS ' debut on OG Topgear's news segment back then. Then hearing Jeremy praise the SLS highly on that Topgear US roadtrip with James May driving the Ferrari 458 and Hammond driving the Porsche 911 GT3 RS. I knew that Mercedes made a lovely gem of a car based on Clarkson's reviews. The SLS is definitely a legend for the history books.
Great video as always gentlemen.
Still my dream car after all these years. Amazing engine, awesome looks, dramatic and well built. Certainly a classic in the future
I just like the looks better of the SLR
@@JP-xd6fm For twice to three-times the money, ...
@@scottcrawford3745 Like if you had 220k but not 1million to buy a car... I'm not saying is a good value to buy, I said is better looking
@@JP-xd6fmSLR McLaren 2003 and 2009 are as gorgeous as SLS.
The second I heard that helmet being handled, I got such a good laugh- a callback to one of my favorite moments on this channel with the i8
Its one of those cars that has a unique soul. Its not JUST a fast and fun car, its a personality you have to learn to live with. Something not found in most modern cars, unfortunately. Truly an amazing vehicle and its earned its respect. Great video as always, guys!
I remembered that SLS as one of the loaner cars in GT5 Nurburgring AMG Driving Academy...😅
I came back to America from Asia, in late 2012 (after about 3 years away)...I saw the SLS-AMG in person for the first time at a gas station... It looked amazing! The affect it had on me, still has me putting Borla Exhaust on EVERYTHING I own...in search of "that sound" since I can't afford "that car". A GREAT way to spend the day guys. Well done!
I'm an inventory photographer for a few high-end dealerships in my area and the SLS was one of the first special cars I got to drive. Even as a convertible, I could tell it was one to remember. I was sort of indifferent towards convertibles up until that point but after it, I had a different appreciation for being able to drop the top and really hear the car.
Lol that intro - honestly no words and James just standing their was enough to make me laugh 😂
I have a story about this car (sorry, it's a bit long).
Way back in 2008, I was on a tour of a country and one of the other people on the tour were from Canada. Anyway, I was somewhere between 10 and 13 and had already begun my massive foray into petrolheadonism and had annoyed many people about my constant talking about cars. The people from Canada had bought a magazine on the airport on their way to the tour and showed me said magazine. In it, I saw the American versions of cars for the first time - Acuras, Infinitis, Tahoes, Yukons, F-150s, etc. All the new models for the 2009 model year (for the life of me, I cannot remember the name of the magazine, and I cannot find it in my collection - even though I know I still have it).
Anyway, I flicked through the pages and read all of the descriptions and what was new for the model year ON EVERY SINGLE CAR. Then I got to Mercedes-Benz. I turned the page and there it was, a silver SLS AMG with the Gullwing doors open. My mouth actually dropped. I read and re-read the few paragraphs over and over and over and fell in love with the car. I finished the magazine and gave it back to the Canadian - after which he told me to keep it. I thanked him and re-read the SLS entry again to celebrate.
Fast-forward to 2010 and the first deliveries arrived in my country. I had to do an art class for school and every week I would drive past a Mercedes-Benz dealership. It had the normal Mercs on one side and the AMGs on the other. Low and behold, there sat a silver SLS SMG. I freaked out in the car - so much so that I startled my mother and she created a rule that stated I was not allowed to freak out about a cool car while she was driving ever again - a rule that still stands even though I am in my late 20s now.
I pestered my dad to take me to go see the SLS and after about two weeks, he agreed. I actually got to sit in the SLS and close the doors. It was a dream come true. A year later, we were on holiday about 1000 km from home and drove past a dealership which had a blue SLS. Again, I asked my dad if we could go check it out and we did! Still, it was gorgeous. In 2012, I was still doing the art classes and guess what was parked in the window of the Merc dealership? A yellow SLS Black. AN SLS BLACK!
I immediately asked my mom to stop and we went to check out the car. It was cordoned off behind red rope - the kind a you'd find separating the VIP section of a restaurant. So we just stood there, looking at it. My mom was off looking at an ML63 and an SLK, but I stood there, frozen, staring at the brilliance that is this car.
Since I first saw the SLS AMG in the magazine, I decided that the SLS is my favourite car. All the videos I've seen of it, people praise the car for it's sportiness and awesomeness and is not anything like the "you shouldn't meet your heroes" thing people experience with cars like the Lambo Countach and so forth - which I am glad about.
So yeah, the SLS AMG has been my absolute favourite car since I first saw it in 2008 and it will likely remain so. I just hope that I will at least have the opportunity to drive it - at least once.
I'm a big fun too, but i won't be mad if you bought it before me... Its never too late.
Too long...didnt read
@@fale892 That's fine. I did attempt to write a book in a RUclips comment.
Get after it . Bump driving it .. save invest , go own it . U got this ..
Maybe 5even 10yrs later but do it , and enjoy the cars along the way of the come up !
I also remember when this car came out. Even took one for a test drive and was instantly in love. Purchased my own 8 years later. Better late than never.
Just spotted this video and I'm so happy. Definitely a contender for my favorite car ever and after watching all of Doug's videos on it, probably three times, I'm really looking forward to this.
Thanks guys.
This Merc is absolutely stunning and timeless. It still looks amazing. That intro had me busting a gut and the “it’s tickling all my boxes” haha
my favourite car . All time favourite . no GT black series can replace this . those gullwing doors adds so much to the drama
And it still looks amazing after all these years. Timeless design.
The rear end is absolutely beautiful. So simple understated and elegant
Hands down this is one of the best Mercedes super car they ever made
The golden years of AMG!
The sounds is like music to any car purist. So beautiful, so emotional!
Great video. One of the best you've done, lately. I enjoy all of your content, but this one stood out as particularly great. More like this, please..
saw one on the streets of Luxembourg just yesterday. my wife didn't understand my excitement for spotting such a rare and exciting car!!!
LUXEMBOURG? yeah that country is like Switzerland, all the money is there.
Nothing better than morning coffee and a great video of a killer car from the gents to start your day.
I had headphones on at 4:30 and that was BRILLIANT! Great sound! Thank you!!! 🙏 your sound engineer is a genius and deserves a raise! 🍻
Also, great review….
I’m fortunate to own an Alubeam SLS coupe. Every time I walk into the garage or hit the start button.. just pure joy. Automotive perfection.
You guys should do a whole series on late 2000s early 2010s super cars
2007-2013 is the modern equivalent of 1965-1971.
@@jacquesc3166 definitely. For almost every type of enthusiast car
This was my dream car ever since I was a teenage boy. I've seen it a handful of times in person and it's still one of the most beautiful cars till this day.
I always come to watch these videos and I look forward to reading the comments. The car was so UNDER appreciated when it came out and I am so glad I bought one back when no one wanted one and got it when it was almost half price. Now years later, I love that people now "get it"!
Just love those beginning clips! Made me a big fan of this channel! 😀
I am fortunate enough to have a father who has been passionately collecting cars for a long time. The stall consists of cars like the Porsche 356 Speedster, 991 GT3 RS, 911 4S, Ferrari F12 TDF, Ferrari 812, Bentley GTC, 280SL Pagoda, the SLS and the SLS Roadster, among others. And I've got to say, the SLS is my favorite.
It is something about the way it drives and feels on normal roads. Of course, I lap the local track quicker in the RS, but on the regular roads, where you cant push your car anywhere near the limit, the SLS has a flow and vibe to it that is just great. You dont have to be pushing it at 7k+ RPM to have fun. You get no sense of urgency, as the powerband is jsut so excellent and the car delivers power everywhere you want it to. And on the plus side, at least for my family and me, it is nowhere near flashy. It is not a headturner like any of the other cars. You can take it on a roadtrip to a friends vacation home with other friends, without feeling you are showing off or trying to one-up anyone. It is a car you can take for a long detour to the grocery store, without feeling like a nouveau riche douche.
SLS AMG was the first car that intrigued me.. Still just as beautiful and Amazing..
I have to admit the car really does sound great! Especially since I was the guy tailgating you along sideroad #2 in the blue M340i, haha the look on Thomas’ face. Cheers guys big fan of the channel.
This is a thing of beauty. Great video as usual guys.
A timeless masterpiece from AMG!
I'm such a huge fan of this car. Always have been since it came out and always will be. What drives me nuts tho, is that I can remember vividly when it came out, a good lot of people chastised it and hated it because of its "look at me!" doors. So much so, that was one of the driving forces that made Mercedes make a roadster... A version with regular doors. And now the regular version is much more saught after BECAUSE of those exact doors...
SLS is an amazing vehicle. We've got a 2 mile flat valley run near us and I was admittedly doing something significantly over limit when I ran up next to a guy in a silver one of these. He had a full handle bar mustache, I kid you not. I was in my WRX at something slightly over the limit and I heard him kick down as I ran up on him. I got up along side of him for a second or two and he just took off. Cheers sir, amazing vehicle, amazing experience. .
When you see the concurrent rises of Yuri and Jakob, mark and Jack, etc, I think there’s a clear trend that most other journalists/businesses don’t understand: two relatable presenters sharing a discussion about cars gives the viewer more warm, conversational feeling about the content. The single presenter videos, albeit high in production, lack the character, goofiness and chemistry that a dynamic duo much like Thomas and James have. Keep the duo together!
The rear end may not match the design of the front with the roundness and smoothness but it’s very reminiscent of the SLR from the shape of the bumper to even the taillights. So it’s a major win in my book.
dude i knew this channel bcs of those helmet
SLS is such a timeless design. Always puts a smile on my face when I see one in person.
Thomas, you’re looking good man! Good stuff as always. Don’t ever change guys
Personally, I thought you guys were reviewing a new Mercedes. The analogue gauge cluster looked so classy. I remember seeing one of these Benz down in Miami back in the day. In silver/gunmetal . Truly stunning.
My father has a white SLS AMG. It’s such a beautiful and powerful sounding car. I’ve been luck enough to drive it for the past 10 years. 🙏🏼 And we’re from Buffalo! That comment from Toronto to Buffalo made me lol.
Hearing the exhaust on one of these is an experience in itself
Yeah, just heard one going on the road ahead of me when I was parked at work years ago and knew it was an SLS, saw a bit of the back and confirmed it, they have a sound unlike any other engine and I knew the sound from watching videos.
A big part of what makes the sound of that engine so magical is that it’s not just a rowdy exhaust. You’re actually hearing the sound of the engine working and it’s glorious.
this is one of the best reviews Ive watched from UK folk. you guys killed it!!!! LOVE FROM AMERICA!!!!!
Great review guys…super cool visuals!…bizarre how the same Getrag 7 speed DCT can be configured so differently when compared to the California, SLS and of course awesome 458!
Beauty on wheels ❤..this car is perfection
You drove it, you showed us, we got to hear how it sounds like too. Well done. Where you get my thumbs up is for the words you used to describe how driving it made you feel. That's likely never going to happen to me so that's what I want to know most about it since I love it already without ever even had sat in one. Thanks, loved learning about it. Not sure about ordering one in LeMans red ...until now! Unconventional? Sure. Still just gorgeous.
I valeted a convertible version one time. Nothing else like it; the long hood, the way the car shakes when you turn it on, it’s awesome
I am honestly sad that cars like these are stored in some garages for investment and are not enjoyed on the open road.
I wouldn't consider them an investment anymore. Eventually the ecomentalists will ban the use of all ICE vehicles. So you then have a very expensive paperweight. This is cool but it's not a Ferrari GTO, Lamborghini Miura, 300SL, McLaren F1, etc which are works of art. This, like a lot of supercars, are just very rare used cars.
@bmstylee there is no way they ban ICE while planes are still flying
For me, Throttle House has become the go-to channel for car reviews. Their content is top-notch, featuring stunning visuals that truly captivate. What sets them apart, though, is the dynamic duo of James and Thomas, whose humor infuses every episode with a unique charm. The opening scenes alone are so engaging that they could easily be a show in themselves. But beyond the entertainment, their reviews are spot-on, meticulously uncovering the strengths and weaknesses of each vehicle. It's this blend of thorough testing, honest insights, and a dash of fun that makes Throttle House a standout in automotive journalism. As for the SLS - stunning car.
You must wonder what the “boys” at that other Canadian car review show (what are they called again) must think when they drool over the excellence of TH. To think I started watching them before finding TH and then unsubbing from their attempts (Yuri and Jakob, I think)
To be fair, those guys are playing to their audience of 12-16 yo
Had the pleasure to taken one of these across a town in England many many years ago! I drove it slowly as I knew that I might never get that chance again in my life. Boy was it special!
As a 911 owner this is one Mercedes I would put in my garage instantly without a second thought. Stunningly beautiful and a fantastic nod to the original gullwing.... one of the prettiest interiors ever, love that dashboard and gauge arrangement.
I love how you present cars, even though I think you feature some pretty boring ones that don't really interest anyone - but your sense of humor keeps drawing me back to your channel.
The boring ones are the cars nobody can afford or can't drive anywhere near their potential.
@@doug6191 Obviously, some people can afford any car. Otherwise, there wouldn't be a luxury car market.
Doing a review on an older car it may be useful to check the date code on the tires to see if the lack of traction is because of old crusty tires such as in the GT40 video.
Nah nah nah, SLS has always been wayward. The stickiest of Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 can barely contain its fury.
Which means the SLS Black was a freak of nature for being so composed and controlled.
Always as a fan of these thank you for the review
Wow over a 1000 comments within the first day the video was posted. Nice work TH! Keep up the good work
This was my goal car when I started business back in 2019. You could still find decent examples for ~$150k ish now they’re like almost double 😢
Keep going! You can get there!
Let’s not forget the ZR1 that came out around that time being able to hold its own in that group of legends.
No one cares for that anymore though.
I'm commenting quite late to your video, but, I sooooo wish you guys could print magazines. I'd buy them every time. I love you guys and the way you're pure-heartedly making good videos. Absolute salute to you guys. Love from India
I had the chance to get a ride in one of those in that silver color, with a red interior. Ultra low mileage collectors vehicle. Beautiful car. Laughed the whole way through the ride. So enjoyable.
The gullwing is the only way to have that car. The convertible made me so mad when it came out lol.
yet convert gives you front row SOUND, my stock SL550 sounds that much better with the top down.
No silly screens, a major plus. Well, not a huge screen. What's with the tire pressure light? And... taking this beast out on salted and sanded roads?!
wildly low tire pressure, was curious about this as well
I’ve always wondered why you haven’t done reviews on the AMG GT, GTS, or GTR. But this review gets me stoked!!
I probably sound crazy but I firmly believe that's the most beautiful car Mercedes has ever made.
I've always felt that this car was a German interpretation of an American muscle car. Just amazing, brutal and timeless.
It's quite literally Dodge Viper with Mercedes touch on it, not even interpretation. Read the story how this car came along
That gauge cluster is gorgeous. Sad how far MB has strayed since.
One of my favorites. Love this car.
The look and sound are awesome.
god how much i love this car, the black series in that yellow colorway is my all time favorite car (even though I'm a massive Ferrari fan lol).
you just got a new subscriber
This car's insane, and it sucks that we'll never get cars like these again...
Edit: okay, maybe Lamborghini but that is it
Now they are making C63's with 4 cylinders
With an electric motor helping it get 671 hp and 752 ft lbs of torque for a 0-60 of 3.3. Might not sound as good but let’s not pretend that it’s an econobox Corolla.
@CIRCLEDARK Doesn't matter. SPEED is not everything, with all that weight it won't be the drivers car the older generations were.
had the pleasure of driving the convertible SLS for the weekend. In the matte grey when i was 17.. such a special car i felt ontop of the world
I love the closing comments. Well done guys
I love y'all but you need to show love to Mercedes. They have so many different models. They have a V12 for 50 grand. A hot hatch? A little coup with 500 hp. Luxury boats with the S-classes. I type in Throttle House AMG what do I see? Like 5 videos, all drag races 😔
Was just looking at the 2023 model last night! So weird you guys did a review...Fantastic as always guys! BTW the blank buttons mystery could have been easily solved if you paid attention in the convertible one at the dealership. 😁
I still remember seeing this car for the first time with my eyes when I was a teenager. The long hood and proportion was absolutely striking. I still think to this date, SLS is the best Mercedes ever made since SL300. Unfortunately, the AMG GT will never be as cool as this car is.
That car in the Black Series trim with a full RENNtech exhaust system is one of my dream cars. The Merc's 6.2 liter motor produces such a glorious exhaust note!
I love the way you guys do videos!
I actually saw a red 300 SL on the road last month, first time I’ve ever seen one in person. Cute little old lady driving it too haha. Had to pull up next to her to double check it was a gull wing… it was. I was in awe of it.
My son saw the look on my face and asked what I was staring at. Told him we were driving next to a car that’s probably worth around 5 million dollars (Canadian). Then he had that same look on his face too 🤤
This one was my dream can since they started using it as safety car for F1. Great, slick, naturaly aspirated, amazing.
My dream garage is the black series C63 and this. I can only imagine the view of them next to each other. Beasts of engineering.
The SLS is my all time dream car, I had the chance to drive (Move) a SLS black series with 600 km. It really made me sad how many of these get stored, and dont move! They are genuinly epic machines!!! And the enterior feels so damn special!
How do y'all come up with amazing intros everytime? 😂❤.
I love this car!!! Great review!
Yes! Yes! Finally the SLS video!!! Such a unique car.
I adore my 2013 C63. Automotive perfection! Folding rear seats, room for 4 and extremely comfortable. Not the fastest, but very adept in corners and plenty of N/A power
Great video as always, I think what you guys have to review next is the SL65 Black series another legendary AMG that always goes under the radar of everyone.
So stunning and sounds absolutely amazing. What amazing cars Mercedes use to build
I drove this car in NFS: UG1 a lot. So fun. Best all those other cars in every setting. Those are the real cars for real man. Anyway nice review men. I have subscribed.