You have players with repaired knees out on the court, very dangerous to throw out a booby trap in the lane. If he’d not suspended then the league doesn’t care about the players
If he did it during a deadball situation, that would be different. He did it when a play was going on, on the same side of the court. You gotta suspend him.
Man, if Kat was an inch closer to that pad, and re-tweaked his knee... this could have been disastrous. Gonna set a dark standard if nothing happens. Imagine Dillon Brookes chucking some ice cubes.
Rudy Gorbert got 100k for the money sign gesture. If they don't suspend Jamal then the fine has to be between 250k to 500K for all of the items he did. Malone should have been ejected.
Rudy Gobert got a 100k fine for making the money sign at refs. That's the maximum fine. By their own precident they pretty much have to give him the maximum fine for that, but you can't let throwing stuff at a ref go unpunished so I think bare minimum he gets the 100k and one game.
I read another comment that said if they ejected Murray out of that game, then they could understand that being enough punishment maybe but the fact that Murray got no technicals, no ejection. That means he's received no punishment for it so if Murray was ejected, then the league might be able to justify "well he received some punishment" but they felt now the league has to suspend him, and I also heard someone else say Dedmon received a 1 game suspension for throwing something
It happened mid play. You have to suspend him. He put other players at risk. A fan would have been thrown out and likely arrested for doing the same thing.
You have to suspend him You can't walk on the floor from the bench during live play. If that's a suspension, throwing items (TWICE) at the officials and on the floor should be a game.
I stumbled across this video and love it. As a life-long Cleveland Cavaliers fan, I will always hold Channing Frye and Richard Jefferson in high regard as both were part of the 2016 NBA Championship team. Allie was a sideline reporter for the Cavaliers and I miss seeing her report from the Cavs games. And JJ Redick is an intelligent, rising star as an NBA analyst after a wonderful college and pro career. I will be sure to catch more of these podcast episodes!
No suspension sends a huge message that this kind of shit will be tolerated, what’s to stop a guy from tossing a chair? You can’t leave the bench so you might as well chuck shit at players feet hoping they’ll get injured.
100K for that BS that's so messed up It should have been more suspended, but if they get swept, that would be the excuse Murray didn't play that game. Imagine if Towns roll his ankle by that. Malone should have been ejected
I think the speed the T Wolves were playing at had a big affect on Jokic. He looked sooo tired by midway through thr 2nd (i know, he always looks tired). But minny was pushing the ball in transition every play it felt like.
Gobert got 100k fine for a cash hand vegas bet gesture towards a ref in regular season. Not only did murray do that same gesture. But threw a towel. And threw a heat pack. To say he is not getting suspended is just flat out wrong.
You have this take. So you can never say the NBA is soft. You enjoy players getting ejected unnecessarily. You enjoy technical fouls. You definitely enjoy foul calls in general.
Do we all agree that Jamal would 100% gotten suspended if someone got injured. KAT was inches away from stepping on it and slipping. I dont think just because KAT got lucky that Murray should get away with no suspension. It was a very dangerous thing he did. Players are huge and generate a lot of power. Someone could easily get injured. Tweak something or pull something. That's why they constantly wipe the floor to prevent slips. He should get suspended, plain and simple. Just because it's in the playoffs shouldn't change that.
@@plpa8250 The Wolves lowkey have a better lineup: 1 Superstar, 2 All-Stars, 1 DPOY, 1 All-NBA Defensive Team(and 1 sixth man of the year who's also a great defender). Not to mention the size advantage
I love that you are all surprised at what the Wolves are doing. They did it for most of their season and have simply stepped it up a notch. Clearly you didn't watch their season...
Dont suspend him because i dont want to hear any damn excuses from there fanbase or the media nerds who started calling this team a damn dynasty after winning one ring ,besides they did not suspend jokic after striking a nba owner last season .no excuses for the so called greatest player on earth jokic after ant man and the wolf pack sweep them out of are damn memories .😤💯
“If if was a fifth we would all be drunk” that emotional dude gave himself that excuse. Tough titty. We don’t know for sure if they would’ve won. You acting as if Dray is KD.😂
There's a reason why every NBA game has individuals who clean the floor of sweat on a continual basis - it gets genuinely slippery down there. To throw what he threw at the referees and then players - one false step and it could have been a disaster for either team. So yeah, a suspension and fine. I wouldn't give him more than one game but to be honest, one game may pretty well end the season for the Nuggets.
SAS compared Minnesota’s game 2 defence akin to the ‘96 Bulls vs the Shaq-led Magic. MJ, Pip, Harper and Rodman were exacting revenge on the Magic for ousting Jordan and didn’t let them get past half court. It was very much like that…
How can you compare this defense to other defenses over the years? The nba stopped calling fouls at the all star break which favors a team that grabs and pushes constantly
If he doesn’t get suspended it would be a smart investment to have your bench players throw some objects at the opposing teams star players hoping they get injured.
2 things NBA hate the most and will do anything they could to prevent as much as possible are: 1. Dynasty 2. series sweep. so Murray won't be suspended because they are down 0-2. if the other way around, then he will be suspended.
2014 Pistons who thrashe Shaq/Kobe Spurs teams with Duncan who defeated that same Pistons team Jordan's Bulls with Rodman, holding the Jazz to I believe 59 points in a Finals game
@aturtlefrommars1683 What Murray did is pretty bad but I really don't want Denver using the excuse that they didn't have Murray when Ant man and the T-Wolves beat them.
They beat them steadily the whole game WITHOUT RUDY!??! Let's not forget that part! These guys have a bench and they have a restless talented crew. I'm sure Denver will play better because the shooting was amazing by Minnesota as well but Minnesota is here to stay! Very refreshing, it's the change of the guard and us hoops heads know it, I saw it in Denver in the bubble but now it's the T Wolves.
If you were a hoop head you would know it’s not “a change of the guard” the nuggets could come back next year with a better roster and beat them it’s just how sports work. Nuggets are a young team they jsut have zero bench. Just like how they lost in the bubble to the lakers and then 2 years later they won a chip with a better team.
It is a changing, KD, LeBron, CP3, n many more are sitting home. Definitely a change, it's a young guys league. Never said Denver was old, just said the T Wolves are here to stay. Blows my mind how many people love to speak for and basically prove what you just said and add something that has NOTHING to do with what you've said 😂
One: Murray should be suspended. This is no different than a fan throwing something on the floor. The fan would be escorted out of the arena. Secondly: why are we acting like this Wolves team isn't built like the 2020 Lakers.
He should be suspended it's absurd that a player would throw anything on the court. To excuse this is just the worst. Nuggest lost their composure and showed the world they are not in control of themselves of the playoffs. They are getting swept I have lost caring about them at the beginning of the playoffs I wanted to see them win. Now I want to see them be swept. They fell from grace and Murray's childish attitude put the cherry on top of their fall. See ya!
yea, this seems way more onesided than Celtics Heat last year, that was hard fought and went to 7 games if you told me the they were going to lose the way they have to a team they beat last year in 5 games. that they would lose game 1 at home (ok fine) that in game 2 at home, they would be down with a score of like 65-30 at the half I wouldn't have believed you
Nuggets fans are gonna wanna sell their tickets to the Minnesota game after that performance. That will only serve to increase the crowd noise on Friday. This is a hellish position to be in for Denver 😅
That heat pack was absolutely thrown at KATs feet. Not the ref. Then MPJ kicked it CLOSER to KATs feet. The it was picked up and thrown off. It was an egregious as Metta World Peace elbowing Harden in the face. If KAT would have been seriously injured a full bench brawl may have happened. They gotta lock this down now that it’s unacceptable. Actions have consequences. Period.
Ngl I’m taking 2019 raptors defence over this wolves team but both are great. They were insanely deep defensively: Kawhi, OG, Siakam, Danny Green, Gasol, Ibaka, Lowry, Vanvleet, and Powell were all studs
You have players with repaired knees out on the court, very dangerous to throw out a booby trap in the lane. If he’d not suspended then the league doesn’t care about the players
The league has never cared about player safety
Agree. Great point.
If he did it during a deadball situation, that would be different. He did it when a play was going on, on the same side of the court. You gotta suspend him.
@@illuminahde very good point
@@illuminahde game in-play or standstill doesn't matter. No throwing of stuff into the court.
Man, if Kat was an inch closer to that pad, and re-tweaked his knee... this could have been disastrous. Gonna set a dark standard if nothing happens. Imagine Dillon Brookes chucking some ice cubes.
😂😂😂😂😂😂 Pat Bev would throw a chair at someone.
@@4Presunto4”There’s a live chicken on the floor Dorris! Where did Pat Bev get a live chicken from?”
Great point, gotta nip it in the bud.
@@4Presunto4🤣🤣🤣🤣
@AaronPlay 😂🤣😭
“No, sir. You will not be excused from this game. You are going to go over there and take this a** whooping” 😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂
Rudy Gorbert got 100k for the money sign gesture. If they don't suspend Jamal then the fine has to be between 250k to 500K for all of the items he did. Malone should have been ejected.
150k minimum or if I’m Rudy I’m losing my shit
@@blablablaa14 it just came out that he only got fines 100K
Rudy was a repeat offender so his finger was increased compared to if any other player did that back then
The fine was 100k
FACTS
Rudy Gobert got a 100k fine for making the money sign at refs. That's the maximum fine. By their own precident they pretty much have to give him the maximum fine for that, but you can't let throwing stuff at a ref go unpunished so I think bare minimum he gets the 100k and one game.
Ironically Jamal Murray ALSO made the money sign at the refs last night too. So even without the heat pack he should be getting 100k
The NBA isn’t gonna give Jamal a game suspension cuz the Nuggets are down 0-2 would taint the sweep that’s coming!
Yes they will.
@@WheresWaldo05 Nahhhhhh, I mean maybe but, I don’t want that. I wanna continue being war criminals on both side’s of the floor. 😂😂😂😂
That's true 😂 no excuses given
So why did they suspend Draymond in 2016?
How would it taint it? They already down 0-2 at home WITH him
Tim Duncan was thrown out for laughing on the bench...Murray didn't even get a tech.
To be honest i think that was because of the specific ref that gave tim Duncan the tech was bad
The ref didn’t see him throw the stuff, he couldn’t have given him a tech.
@@joel2421replays exist
Mark Davis said throwing something warrants at least a tech
Well Jamal threw 2 things, so there is your 2 technicals
I read another comment that said
if they ejected Murray out of that game, then they could understand that being enough punishment maybe
but the fact that Murray got no technicals, no ejection. That means he's received no punishment for it
so if Murray was ejected, then the league might be able to justify "well he received some punishment"
but they felt now the league has to suspend him, and I also heard someone else say Dedmon received a 1 game suspension for throwing something
It happened mid play. You have to suspend him. He put other players at risk. A fan would have been thrown out and likely arrested for doing the same thing.
lifetime ban too lol..
You have to suspend him
You can't walk on the floor from the bench during live play.
If that's a suspension, throwing items (TWICE) at the officials and on the floor should be a game.
Naah... If Embiid didn't get suspended vs the Knicks, then Murray shouldn't either. Keep it consistent.
@miloslazarski9140 they haven't kept it consistent. That's the problem
@@miloslazarski9140🤡🫵🫵
1:55 her facial expression when Richard Jefferson is trying to say what Jamal Murray could of said about throwing the heatpack 😂
Just say your tampon fell out
JJ went full Richard for the show. Open blouses 😂
Bro I’m trying to keep in shape like him at that age… dude isn’t even balding, it’s fucking unfair as another white dude who has bad hair genetics
@TheSethOlson we all different brother. I'm 43 no sign of balding but got some.greys coming. Embrace you tho
Best defense I’ve seen as a 40 year old man, Detroit Pistons early 2000’s team.
This defense in generational!
Ben Wallace greatest defender in history. Could guard any spot/player on the court.
Tony Allen's grizzlies
The defense of the 96 Bulls was crazy. #1 on offense, #2 on defense and 3 guys on 1st team all defense. Very rare to have that in the NBA in any era.
Yeah, that was made possible by Pippen working at his level for almost nothing. He made it possible for that super team to be formed.
Wait, MJ had help? 😂
I stumbled across this video and love it. As a life-long Cleveland Cavaliers fan, I will always hold Channing Frye and Richard Jefferson in high regard as both were part of the 2016 NBA Championship team. Allie was a sideline reporter for the Cavaliers and I miss seeing her report from the Cavs games. And JJ Redick is an intelligent, rising star as an NBA analyst after a wonderful college and pro career. I will be sure to catch more of these podcast episodes!
No suspension sends a huge message that this kind of shit will be tolerated, what’s to stop a guy from tossing a chair? You can’t leave the bench so you might as well chuck shit at players feet hoping they’ll get injured.
It depends whether player is star player or just bench player. Can't touch the star player.
Can you name a time anyone has thrown a chair…? The what aboutism is crazy
KAT’s foot was a few inches away from the heating pad. NO EXCUSE!
it is an overwhelming defense nobody was ready for that
Yeah it was they held the defending champs to 35 points in the first half. Fuck an A that's pretty godamn hardcore.
Been watching since the 80s. I’ve never seen defense as good as the timberwolves. They were on another planet last night.
100K for that BS that's so messed up
It should have been more suspended, but if they get swept, that would be the excuse Murray didn't play that game.
Imagine if Towns roll his ankle by that.
Malone should have been ejected
this dude JJ on every podcast related to basketball.
Just the good ones :)
I think the speed the T Wolves were playing at had a big affect on Jokic. He looked sooo tired by midway through thr 2nd (i know, he always looks tired). But minny was pushing the ball in transition every play it felt like.
Gobert got 100k fine for a cash hand vegas bet gesture towards a ref in regular season.
Not only did murray do that same gesture. But threw a towel. And threw a heat pack.
To say he is not getting suspended is just flat out wrong.
OH HE THREW UP THE $ signs?!? I must have been high AF 🤣 I did not see that.
if the NBA doesn’t suspend him, then it’s because they don’t want to take a star player out of a highly anticipated series.
@@matt-tb6gt true, they're trying to cash in on the play-offs.. too many blowout games gets boring may lose money so probly hoping itll change
You have this take. So you can never say the NBA is soft. You enjoy players getting ejected unnecessarily. You enjoy technical fouls. You definitely enjoy foul calls in general.
@@HiQuis Agreed. The way the wolves games are being officiated is the correct way to allow games to be played. Especially in the playoffs.
Man, we're living in the JJEU with sports at this point 😂
Maybe Mike Conley is the catalyst for that great defenses. Started with those grit and grind Grizzlies years
All this time, I thought Allie Clifton was Allie LaForce.
My bad Allie. 😄
This game felt like the first fight between Rocky and Clubber Lang.
Damn, that's a great take.
Yes! Best podcast. More of this stuff.
Don't suspend him. We want no excuses when they get swept.
All the people I listen to are teaming up lately, and it's great.
Probably the best analyzes I've heard about how good the Minnesota defense is.
Where's the full podcast ? Lol we want the full version bruh
Yeaaahhzuurrrkiiiii, been waitin for this collabo
Good pod
Is richards mic on the right input??
Finally you guys!🎉🎉🎉
Steph curry threw a mouth guard on the sideline and got suspended during play offs
I think he got thrown out, I don’t remember him getting suspended
He was ejected at the end of the game, not suspended for the next.
Looks like you dont know the difference yet, please watch more games
No he didn’t get to ejected why do you guys just lie 😂
@@Jonesyyy12 ruclips.net/video/kyxpMy5E0nk/видео.htmlsi=kbtt1iSg4li2rl3-
Familiarize yourself with the game before you comment.
You should be suspended throwing the heat pack is beyond nuts
If Jamal Murray had done that when they played the Lakers. It wouldn't been any question about him being suspended. Because that's Lebron's team.
Facts
Do we all agree that Jamal would 100% gotten suspended if someone got injured. KAT was inches away from stepping on it and slipping. I dont think just because KAT got lucky that Murray should get away with no suspension. It was a very dangerous thing he did. Players are huge and generate a lot of power. Someone could easily get injured. Tweak something or pull something. That's why they constantly wipe the floor to prevent slips. He should get suspended, plain and simple. Just because it's in the playoffs shouldn't change that.
Nuggets fans are not allowed to complain about refs ever again after that soft penalty from the league
Great show and what a great partnership 🎉🎉🎉
Where's the full pod??
Is this comparable to the Pistons R2 defense?
JJ already apart of the family lol. That boy coming up quick!
The 22’ Celtics had an incredible defense as well
Who is the coach of tht timnerworlves
Spacing was around since early warrior days past 5 years
Refs can look at video to assess techs in a fight, but they couldn't look to see how the heating pad got on the floor?
The Knicks and the Bucks did that to them this year when Denver was on the road
Imagine a fan throwing something on the court. Malice at the Palace…
Who is the GM of timberwolves
A fine means nothing to the player.
Exactly
Timberwolves look like monsters on the 1st Space Jam with Jordan 😗
You could read the refs lips too “ get back over there !!”
You aren't beating the wolves by one a two guys ...nuggets going need the other guys to step up ..but that bench is thin
They got Jokic, porter, Gordon, Murray, KCP... Who else does the nuggets want? That's a better line up than the last Team USA.
@@plpa8250lmao what? He’s talking about the bench and the USA lineup is obviously better that’s a dumb comparison
@@plpa8250 The Wolves lowkey have a better lineup: 1 Superstar, 2 All-Stars, 1 DPOY, 1 All-NBA Defensive Team(and 1 sixth man of the year who's also a great defender). Not to mention the size advantage
I love that you are all surprised at what the Wolves are doing. They did it for most of their season and have simply stepped it up a notch. Clearly you didn't watch their season...
We gonna go by draymond standard?
Dont suspend him because i dont want to hear any damn excuses from there fanbase or the media nerds who started calling this team a damn dynasty after winning one ring ,besides they did not suspend jokic after striking a nba owner last season .no excuses for the so called greatest player on earth jokic after ant man and the wolf pack sweep them out of are damn memories .😤💯
Nobody was calling this team a dynasy, get that chip off your shoulder
Richard Jefferson won 2016 championship out of Draymond suspension 🤦🏽
“If if was a fifth we would all be drunk” that emotional dude gave himself that excuse. Tough titty. We don’t know for sure if they would’ve won. You acting as if Dray is KD.😂
JJ out here lookin like JOSÉ
There's a reason why every NBA game has individuals who clean the floor of sweat on a continual basis - it gets genuinely slippery down there. To throw what he threw at the referees and then players - one false step and it could have been a disaster for either team. So yeah, a suspension and fine. I wouldn't give him more than one game but to be honest, one game may pretty well end the season for the Nuggets.
2020 lakers? I swear our memories are so bad when it comes to going back in history
SAS compared Minnesota’s game 2 defence akin to the ‘96 Bulls vs the Shaq-led Magic. MJ, Pip, Harper and Rodman were exacting revenge on the Magic for ousting Jordan and didn’t let them get past half court. It was very much like that…
Its time for Giannis and Joker to team up. Their teams are failing them.
Weird seeing JJ on Road Trippin
How can you compare this defense to other defenses over the years? The nba stopped calling fouls at the all star break which favors a team that grabs and pushes constantly
He also threw the pew pews at Kat in game 1
Hearing Richard’s take on why the coach didn’t get tossed makes me happy he didn’t get tossed. Take that ass whoopin 😂
Murray: I noticed that cat was running awkwardly and thought he needed a heat pack
This is close to the 2004 Pistons when they shut down Shaq and Kobe
Road trippin with JJ?!? This show just got even more 🔥🔥🔥.
If he doesn’t get suspended it would be a smart investment to have your bench players throw some objects at the opposing teams star players hoping they get injured.
Jamal tried to throw the heating pad down on the ground in front of him, but he missed just like his shots 😂. Big fine, no suspension
100k fine w/o suspension. nasty
2 things NBA hate the most and will do anything they could to prevent as much as possible are: 1. Dynasty 2. series sweep. so Murray won't be suspended because they are down 0-2. if the other way around, then he will be suspended.
Did RJ really suggest a 75k fine?!! Wtf. That’s like me paying $2 for a speeding ticket.
2014 Pistons who thrashe Shaq/Kobe
Spurs teams with Duncan who defeated that same Pistons team
Jordan's Bulls with Rodman, holding the Jazz to I believe 59 points in a Finals game
Murray was tripping lol
The nba wouldn't give them any penalties. They finally got what they wanted, being the favourite of the league like what their coach wanted all along🙌
Wolves reminds me of the old grizzlies team
4:40 we're forgetting about the ime celtics. that defense is better than this wolve's defense.
Murray will probably get fined..no suspension..
It's his first offense. No suspension just a big fine.
@aturtlefrommars1683 What Murray did is pretty bad but I really don't want Denver using the excuse that they didn't have Murray when Ant man and the T-Wolves beat them.
They beat them steadily the whole game WITHOUT RUDY!??! Let's not forget that part! These guys have a bench and they have a restless talented crew. I'm sure Denver will play better because the shooting was amazing by Minnesota as well but Minnesota is here to stay! Very refreshing, it's the change of the guard and us hoops heads know it, I saw it in Denver in the bubble but now it's the T Wolves.
If you were a hoop head you would know it’s not “a change of the guard” the nuggets could come back next year with a better roster and beat them it’s just how sports work. Nuggets are a young team they jsut have zero bench. Just like how they lost in the bubble to the lakers and then 2 years later they won a chip with a better team.
It is a changing, KD, LeBron, CP3, n many more are sitting home. Definitely a change, it's a young guys league. Never said Denver was old, just said the T Wolves are here to stay. Blows my mind how many people love to speak for and basically prove what you just said and add something that has NOTHING to do with what you've said 😂
One: Murray should be suspended. This is no different than a fan throwing something on the floor. The fan would be escorted out of the arena.
Secondly: why are we acting like this Wolves team isn't built like the 2020 Lakers.
He should be suspended it's absurd that a player would throw anything on the court. To excuse this is just the worst. Nuggest lost their composure and showed the world they are not in control of themselves of the playoffs. They are getting swept I have lost caring about them at the beginning of the playoffs I wanted to see them win. Now I want to see them be swept. They fell from grace and Murray's childish attitude put the cherry on top of their fall. See ya!
Man, if the Celtics lost like this the NBA media would be crucifying then.
yea, this seems way more onesided than Celtics Heat last year, that was hard fought and went to 7 games
if you told me the they were going to lose the way they have to a team they beat last year in 5 games.
that they would lose game 1 at home (ok fine)
that in game 2 at home, they would be down with a score of like 65-30 at the half
I wouldn't have believed you
One of the best defensives you’ve seen… without Gobert on the court too… Wembys the DPOY
Nuggets fans are gonna wanna sell their tickets to the Minnesota game after that performance. That will only serve to increase the crowd noise on Friday. This is a hellish position to be in for Denver 😅
That heat pack was absolutely thrown at KATs feet. Not the ref. Then MPJ kicked it CLOSER to KATs feet. The it was picked up and thrown off. It was an egregious as Metta World Peace elbowing Harden in the face. If KAT would have been seriously injured a full bench brawl may have happened. They gotta lock this down now that it’s unacceptable. Actions have consequences. Period.
That Minnesota team's defense attacks the guy with the ball like a pack of hungry wolves. 😬
The best defense ever was the 2004 pistons
its the best defence when the refs let them play scrap ball. How do you not talk about the change in ref's from the Denver game to the New York game.
Ngl I’m taking 2019 raptors defence over this wolves team but both are great. They were insanely deep defensively: Kawhi, OG, Siakam, Danny Green, Gasol, Ibaka, Lowry, Vanvleet, and Powell were all studs
Absolutely ridiculous if he’s not suspended. He had a full temper tantrum, and endangered player safety.
You can hold a child accountable for they behavior gotta hold a grown man accountable for they actions on top he didn’t speak to the media
From none to insanity on one day....SUSPEND IMMEDIATELY!!!
Jamal misses also with towel and with heater 😂😂😂
If we aren't suspending Joel for repeatedly doing the suck it gesture after he got fouled, Murray should be fine.