They were great! They were my neighbors during the Tuff Muff Mansion days and let me tell you, they were so fun and they worked their asses off trying to make it. Especially Stevie and Michael, they were tireless. Jorge was one of my besties for sure and I miss you if you are reading this!
Great guys, I managed the band during this period. Video was shot overnight at the Burbank CA power plant. We had very little video budget money so we had to improvise. They took purple water based paint and just painted a section purple, set up the stage and went to work. Fun shoot.
I'm 70yr old and still Rockin'. I grew up in the 50's,60's,70's,&80's, after those decades the music really did a head dive, Hair Bands Rock!! Oh and RAMMSTEIN Really Rocks!!
This douche is still baggin on tuff? He really ain't got nothing better to do then go to songs he don't like to talk shit. PS Nirvana smells like teen shit
They flew under the radar and only had a few small hits. They departed from this style a couple years later but was still good. Check out Religious Fix or Daddy's money, same band a little different style.
Tuff STILL kicks ass like countless metal/rock 80's bands! You can't say that about any decade since. I've been taking my youngest, in the past 3 years, to Kiss, Def Leppard, Styx, REO, Bryan Adams, Foreigner, Slash, and more. He was blown away by the stage shows, live vocals, etc. They all rocked and in their 50's/60's now, they can kick any of today's "talents'" ass all over the stage!
Joe Little Sorry bro, but Tuff was formed in 1985, by guitarist Jorge DeSaint, drummer Gary Huckaby, and bassist Todd Chase. After drummer Gary Huckaby left the group in 1985 to work with another local project, the band enlisted drummer Michael Lean and vocalist Terry Fox, who left the band shortly afterward.With replacement vocalist Jim Gillette, the band recorded a four-track EP entitled Knock Yourself Out (1986). However, Gillette left and was replaced by Stevie Rachelle.
What's awesome is they started in the 80's and continued into the 90's gaining more fans. My comment should really state that 80's metal/rock was so awesome that many bands still have their original fan base and newer generations are jamming to them too! It's allowed several bands of that era to continue touring, reuniting, and creating new material.
Met stevie at the expo in Nashville. Super super nice guy very down to earth. He was actually surprised i knew alot of songs besides the first album. Hell "i won't give up" is my life story 😂
Right? He is a doll. I think this guy's facial features are much softer and beautiful. Bret is more of a sexy, beauty. Each have their own particular beauty.
I was in a band called 'Ripp Off' and we opened for Tuff at the 'Mason Jar' nightclub in Phoenix in December of 1988. They were a bunch of great guys and they ROCKED!! Todd the bass player reminds me of our old bass player Chris Connally, looks a lot like Todd too with all that hair he had back then also. I still have one of our flyers from that gig!
My band opened up for these guys back in the day in Salisbury, MA at The Escape Club, early 90's. This song was huge on WAAF at the time.... man what a great show and they were cool guys too!
Very nice see and hear melodic ,metal band! Tuff with melodic -metal composer!! Good luck dear metal brother !! In life in music on concerts in studio!! Thank-you for the music!!
I got to see them live at a club in San Jose back in the day & they were AWESOME!!! I fell in love with them when I heard this song!!! Such an underrated love song!!! We got to meet them backstage & take pictures with them - they're even prettier in person!!! This music is soooooooooo much better than the crap on the radio today - bring back real music like this!!!
Great tune!!! Read about these guys in "Metal Edge" back in the day, while I was deployed in the Middle East ( Desert Storm ). This was another one of the first albums I bought, once I came back from the desert in '91...........awesome music!!!!!!!
Another Great underated band Awesome guys!! And I love that Jorge DeSaint One of the most lovely people ive had the pleasure of spending some time with...AWESOME Guitarist and wonderful Person! ~Echo Lynne
met him going through Malibu this fall, met him at Starbucks, asked him a question, and he spent over an hour giving us some advice on our road trip. what a generous and nice guy we met that day. never forget him. Thank you Jorge for your advices, it help us a lot .mother/daughter from Canada
🙋 I remember when tuff I hate you goodbye first came on mtv back in the day. At first I thought they were a band called guardian but it wasn't, it was tuff. After I watch this music video on mtv. I got my skateboard and rode it up to the mall and then I went into the wall at the time when it was called that and bought tuff what comes around goes around on cassette tape. I tried to get it on CD but they were sold out of it at the time. Still tuff was a great band when they were around, it's a shame that they didn't stick around that long like they should have. They were a great band and their music was great too.
WELL SAID!! I'll always have a "soft "spot" for the 80 "glam bands" and being that I am from Phoenix and Hollywood in the 80's-early 90's, I'll ALWAYS have a soft spot for TUFF!
What a voice, what a look and what a band! This is one great combination that helped to rock this band into the hearts of so many of us!!! They were not just a glamour band, as they had the nuts and bolts to make music that sounded around the world!!
The lead singer has a story/memoir of this band on the Metal Sludge website. Interesting read, they were big in Hollywood, Arizona, and Wisconsin. Then when they finally got their big break, their tour with Britny Fox fell apart..and then grunge happened. So close..., but apparently this song did well on MTV
SUCH A BEAUTIFUL SONG FROM MANY YEARS AGO TOO BAD THEY DONT MAKE EM LIKE THIS ANYMORE . MANY MEMORIES I HAVE FROM THEN AND ITS NICE TO KNOW IM NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT STILL APPRECIATES THE GOOD STUFF !!!!! THANX FROM SHERIDAN , WYOMING . USA 😀CHEERS !!!!!
Tracey Fitzpatrick right? The melody is awesome. So many emotions going on and just brilliant. Now, it's just all dry, the songs just don't hit the spot.
The problem is that they are too similar to other hair bands. It’s a tough business and I respect that they got a contract and a record and a single and a video all of which is totally cool. I admire people in the arts because we need them to put color into our worlds. It’s just that this so close to other acts that it does not distinguish itself. Still, you had success and got recorded and that is what counts.
@@ultimatesin3544 I said this from the first time my cousin and I saw this video. Well, not exactly that but Stevie and Jorge were like generic Bret and Bobby. lol
Funny truth is, Bret Michaels stole his whole stage persona from Steve Whiteman of Kix. So Stevie is actually a dude playing a dude disguised as the dude!! 😂😂
wow! thx for this vid. I was desolate but I used to read Hit Parader.. and all bands I read about ... aww made my world feel better w/ all the hurt and life itself... am a Navavlo an music took me away from the hurt. thx to motltey and all of you... Anderson
summer of 1994 i bought a box of old metal edge magazines at a garage sale. one had a full page advertisement for what comes around goes around. couldn't find a copy to save my life...anywhere. my buddy went with his dad on a trip out to California and came back with a used copy of the cd. finally got to hear it and had no idea they had ever had a video on mtv. didn't see that until youtube came a long. i thought this album was good, but it didn't age well. it was definitely of the time, and maybe a year too late. stevie writes songs the way he writes, and still does to this day...but the album just sounds very dated. i know he did a re-recorded version that i will have to check out.
Dawn George/Jorge moved to Florida... Pretty sure that he doesn't want to be found right now. I'd LOVE to know that he is OK! I've known George, Todd, and Michael since 1985 in Phoenix!
never heard but the song is great, slow rock hair band is my daily playlist in the office, i'm the one generation who embrace hair band and grunge at the same time haha
I have such a soft spot for the 80's ballads because they show and bring out the feminine side of these supposed hard guys who make womanizing an art form. They truly inside do feel mor for and about females than just the physical. And that is where the inspiration comes for alot of this romantic stuff. Yes some of it is contrived to make money at the time, but alot is also sincere and that is admirable. Guys need to start representing our gender better and showing females how special they are.
I read an article that went: it wasn't grunge that killed hair metal. It was the audience sick of low profile clones that sounded the same. And for Tuff much of it is not wrong
I sure will, and vice versa for me as well. He hasn't responded to my email yet, and I can't figure out where I put his phone number at (yes I still write numbers down on scraps of paper!), but when I do talk to him I will definitely tell him! Todd seems pretty mad at him but I love the little guy! He was my bestie in the Hollywood days!
They were great! They were my neighbors during the Tuff Muff Mansion days and let me tell you, they were so fun and they worked their asses off trying to make it. Especially Stevie and Michael, they were tireless. Jorge was one of my besties for sure and I miss you if you are reading this!
Dawn Dulaney lucky you!
Great guys, I managed the band during this period. Video was shot overnight at the Burbank CA power plant. We had very little video budget money so we had to improvise. They took purple water based paint and just painted a section purple, set up the stage and went to work. Fun shoot.
I'm 70yr old and still Rockin'. I grew up in the 50's,60's,70's,&80's, after those decades the music really did a head dive, Hair Bands Rock!! Oh and RAMMSTEIN Really Rocks!!
Yeah sure....This crap is so bad I thought it was a comedy sketch
You clearly jealous of early-mid 1990s. It's ok, I would prob be too if I was brought up on the crap u were
This douche is still baggin on tuff? He really ain't got nothing better to do then go to songs he don't like to talk shit. PS Nirvana smells like teen shit
@@whiteboyss6085 well put! damm right!
@@jasonpeters3558 lmao amen!
I can’t believe I’ve never heard of these guys. This was my favorite genre of all time.
They flew under the radar and only had a few small hits. They departed from this style a couple years later but was still good. Check out Religious Fix or Daddy's money, same band a little different style.
Same here
They were at the tail end of the hair metal days. There were so many metal bands popping out at that period some went unnoticed.
I listened to this band almost daily in 92 (and ugly kid joe). now found them again 30 years later.
@@yucode7356
Never heard of Tuff.
I haven't listened to ugly kid Joe in years.
Tuff STILL kicks ass like countless metal/rock 80's bands! You can't say that about any decade since. I've been taking my youngest, in the past 3 years, to Kiss, Def Leppard, Styx, REO, Bryan Adams, Foreigner, Slash, and more. He was blown away by the stage shows, live vocals, etc. They all rocked and in their 50's/60's now, they can kick any of today's "talents'" ass all over the stage!
exactly right!! my 9yo niece LOVES def lep, journey, and Sebastian Bach!!
Tuff is from the 90s my friend
Joe Little Sorry bro, but
Tuff was formed in 1985, by guitarist Jorge DeSaint, drummer Gary Huckaby, and bassist Todd Chase. After drummer Gary Huckaby left the group in 1985 to work with another local project, the band enlisted drummer Michael Lean and vocalist Terry Fox, who left the band shortly afterward.With replacement vocalist Jim Gillette, the band recorded a four-track EP entitled Knock Yourself Out (1986). However, Gillette left and was replaced by Stevie Rachelle.
Yeah but nobody heard of them til the 90s.....but you are correct
What's awesome is they started in the 80's and continued into the 90's gaining more fans. My comment should really state that 80's metal/rock was so awesome that many bands still have their original fan base and newer generations are jamming to them too! It's allowed several bands of that era to continue touring, reuniting, and creating new material.
GOD GIVE THE 80`s BACK , PLEASE!
this song is 1991 year
Paulo Bianquini they actually came out in the 90s
*Bring
Yeah, for comic relief
Yeah, "Smells like teen spirit"/Nirvana came out few weeks after this crap. Nirvana put an end to crap Rock. Poodle hair metal crap.
Met stevie at the expo in Nashville. Super super nice guy very down to earth. He was actually surprised i knew alot of songs besides the first album. Hell "i won't give up" is my life story 😂
His roots are from Oshkosh, WI.
he has one of the most gorgeous faces! especially his eyes and lips
damn he has beautiful teeth too! oh they don't make the like that anymore
ashleyscott1117 He was a kind of Bret Michaels of Poison ripoff- go check out Unskinny Bop for the more popular looker with the ladies.
I know quite a bit about poison and think Bret Michaels is gorgeous as well
Right? He is a doll. I think this guy's facial features are much softer and beautiful. Bret is more of a sexy, beauty. Each have their own particular beauty.
Yeah, reminds of Brett Micheals...
I was in a band called 'Ripp Off' and we opened for Tuff at the 'Mason Jar' nightclub in Phoenix in December of 1988. They were a bunch of great guys and they ROCKED!! Todd the bass player reminds me of our old bass player Chris Connally, looks a lot like Todd too with all that hair he had back then also. I still have one of our flyers from that gig!
Hearing this brings back some great memories!
My band opened up for these guys back in the day in Salisbury, MA at The Escape Club, early 90's. This song was huge on WAAF at the time.... man what a great show and they were cool guys too!
yeah remember the waaf days and these guys being huge. cant say i can confirm the time frame but these guy were awesome
@@guitarzan8671
I never heard of them until now.
Very nice see and hear melodic ,metal band! Tuff with melodic -metal composer!! Good luck dear metal brother !! In life in music on concerts in studio!! Thank-you for the music!!
I can't be certain, but I'm getting the very strong impression that he hates kissing her goodbye.
That made me laugh good one.
I got to see them live at a club in San Jose back in the day & they were AWESOME!!! I fell in love with them when I heard this song!!! Such an underrated love song!!! We got to meet them backstage & take pictures with them - they're even prettier in person!!! This music is soooooooooo much better than the crap on the radio today - bring back real music like this!!!
One Step Beyond was the club, am I right?
Great tune!!! Read about these guys in "Metal Edge" back in the day, while I was deployed in the Middle East ( Desert Storm ). This was another one of the first albums I bought, once I came back from the desert in '91...........awesome music!!!!!!!
Stevie is the CEO of Metal Edge. I think he started it. He's seems like a real sweet guy
Have not heard this song in a lifetime. One click and it all comes back. Laughter, good times, faded dreams forgotten love.
Another Great underated band Awesome guys!! And I love that Jorge DeSaint One of the most lovely people ive had the pleasure of spending some time with...AWESOME Guitarist and wonderful Person! ~Echo Lynne
met him going through Malibu this fall, met him at Starbucks, asked him a question, and he spent over an hour giving us some advice on our road trip. what a generous and nice guy we met that day. never forget him. Thank you Jorge for your advices, it help us a lot .mother/daughter from Canada
The poor man's Poison. One of the many 3rd 4th tier average hair metal.
Rich at the Metal Asylum but this song is pretty enough
🙋
I remember when tuff I hate you goodbye first came on mtv back in the day.
At first I thought they were a band called guardian but it wasn't, it was tuff.
After I watch this music video on mtv. I got my skateboard and rode it up to the mall and then I went into the wall at the time when it was called that and bought tuff what comes around goes around on cassette tape.
I tried to get it on CD but they were sold out of it at the time.
Still tuff was a great band when they were around, it's a shame that they didn't stick around that long like they should have. They were a great band and their music was great too.
This song was probably one of the best Hair Band ballots of its time. SO MANY SEASONS is another great tune as it grows on you .
WELL SAID!! I'll always have a "soft "spot" for the 80 "glam bands" and being that I am from Phoenix and Hollywood in the 80's-early 90's, I'll ALWAYS have a soft spot for TUFF!
omg, i almost start crying when i saw the singers face! he looks like an angel! why havn't i heard about Tuff before? i so love this!
I remember this being number 1 on dial mtv or some call in request show for a few weeks. Great ballad and cool guitar solo.
Lol, till Nirvana hit
...few weeks later
When Hinder came out with Lips Of An Angel, I always thought it had the same sound as this, although a 2000's sound.
THANX FROM WYOMING , STILL LISTENIN ON 3- 20- 2018 !!!!! 😘🌹💋
I think this is an awesome song! Love that Hair Metal Power Ballad.
I love this song, I was 22 when it came out, and now I'm 52, time fllyes.
What a voice, what a look and what a band! This is one great combination that helped to rock this band into the hearts of so many of us!!! They were not just a glamour band, as they had the nuts and bolts to make music that sounded around the world!!
Goerge still rules on guitar..went over to fix his ac unit and got a private concert..He still got it..👍👍
Mark David WOW MARK DAVID HOW AWESOME !!!!! CHEERS FROM WYOMING 😘🌹💋
@@traceyfitzpatrick2163 🤘
I don't smoke. I just carry a lighter in case a power ballad breaks out.
YesMyTatsAreReal I feel like I need to have Mascara ready and available
I am so with you on that!!!!
That's the spirit.
Same reason there's always a can of Rave #4 hairspray in the glovebox. 😂
@@randywissler9923 😂😂😂
This band rocked. The singer was good. The drummer rocked hard. The bassist was tight and jammed, and the guitarist was a melodic shredder!
One band that I wish I'd seen back then what a beautiful song
The lead singer has a story/memoir of this band on the Metal Sludge website. Interesting read, they were big in Hollywood, Arizona, and Wisconsin. Then when they finally got their big break, their tour with Britny Fox fell apart..and then grunge happened. So close..., but apparently this song did well on MTV
Omg this song is so beautiful...
One of the hardest working bands of the 80's...
Truth.
?
Always Loved This Band , Very Underrated!!
I remember playing this on my hard rock radio show
You were radio DJ in early 1991 ?
A great band that suffered from the heinous invasion from Seattle called grunge. They should've been a worldwide sensation!!!!!!
SUCH A BEAUTIFUL SONG FROM MANY YEARS AGO TOO BAD THEY DONT MAKE EM LIKE THIS ANYMORE . MANY MEMORIES I HAVE FROM THEN AND ITS NICE TO KNOW IM NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT STILL APPRECIATES THE GOOD STUFF !!!!! THANX FROM SHERIDAN , WYOMING . USA 😀CHEERS !!!!!
Tracey Fitzpatrick right? The melody is awesome. So many emotions going on and just brilliant. Now, it's just all dry, the songs just don't hit the spot.
The problem is that they are too similar to other hair bands. It’s a tough business and I respect that they got a contract and a record and a single and a video all of which is totally cool. I admire people in the arts because we need them to put color into our worlds. It’s just that this so close to other acts that it does not distinguish itself. Still, you had success and got recorded and that is what counts.
I'm impressed, and I was a HUGE lover of the "power" ballads in the 80's.
Damn, she's pretty!
FUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Such a good group. It should have been a crime for a guy to look that good. That is a really good ballad. Loved the video.
Stevie is still pretty.
I saw these guys in concert when I was like 15 we thought we were so cool wow lol...
24 people never had someone to kiss goodbye.
TUFF is probs the best unknown 80's band
poison called they want their looks back
Stevie Rachelle is the poor man's Brett Michaels
Grammar called. They want proper punctuation in sentences!!
@@ultimatesin3544 I said this from the first time my cousin and I saw this video. Well, not exactly that but Stevie and Jorge were like generic Bret and Bobby. lol
Hanoi Rocks called and asked Poison for their looks back.
Funny truth is, Bret Michaels stole his whole stage persona from Steve Whiteman of Kix. So Stevie is actually a dude playing a dude disguised as the dude!! 😂😂
Awesome band and they worked their asses off to make. Todd definitely was amazing song writer.
this solo is just amazing, i can feel the passion XD
Stevie was a cool, talented guy... shame this band never made it!
These guys were great! I remember living in Panorama City(not as pretty as it sounds, lol) and going to the Country Club to see them.
This song make me trip to te 80s, I know that it's from 91' but because the sound
I hate kissing you goodbye, but I love watching you walk away.
Ha!
Steve rachelle the and Tuff probably the best band ever who didn t make it as they should have
Wicked tune. Nuff said
wow! thx for this vid. I was desolate but I used to read Hit Parader.. and all bands I read about ... aww made my world feel better w/ all the hurt and life itself... am a Navavlo an music took me away from the hurt. thx to motltey and all of you...
Anderson
I love those Paiste colorsound cymbals!
July - 19 th- 2018: AND LISTENING TO THIS LOST GEM! THANKS!
Tuff has actually been around since 84/85(in Phoenix), they moved to Hollywood in 1987, and Stevie joined the band then.
GOOD MORNING. just what I needed
TUFF ROCKS! This video is awesome! TUFF should have been huge! TUFF & KIX just missed the boat!
Nossa ele é muito lindoo!!!!! Cantando essa musica maravilhosa então dá vontade de chorar até.
summer of 1994 i bought a box of old metal edge magazines at a garage sale. one had a full page advertisement for what comes around goes around. couldn't find a copy to save my life...anywhere. my buddy went with his dad on a trip out to California and came back with a used copy of the cd. finally got to hear it and had no idea they had ever had a video on mtv. didn't see that until youtube came a long. i thought this album was good, but it didn't age well. it was definitely of the time, and maybe a year too late. stevie writes songs the way he writes, and still does to this day...but the album just sounds very dated. i know he did a re-recorded version that i will have to check out.
I love 80s hair metal videos. It's like comedy gold!
These guys make "Every Rose Has Its Thorn" sound like "Stairway to Heaven".
I love this song and the entire album i got it used in 1990 at green hell used records and tape on sunset blvd in west hollywood ca. TUFF kick ass!
Omg this takes me back!
Dawn George/Jorge moved to Florida... Pretty sure that he doesn't want to be found right now. I'd LOVE to know that he is OK! I've known George, Todd, and Michael since 1985 in Phoenix!
TUFF n' ROLL!!!⭐
FANTASTIC BALAD
Wow, I haven't heard this in 15 years or more!
indeed he is. this song came out right before "smells like teen spirit" came out and the rest it history...
I'll always be proud of the 80's..uh yeah baby!!
never heard but the song is great, slow rock hair band is my daily playlist in the office, i'm the one generation who embrace hair band and grunge at the same time haha
Tuff may have a Bret Michaels clone for a singer but man does this song have such a rocking guitar solo! Possibly best screeching guitar of the 80s.
Stevie has a better voice than Bret
There’s a difference.
Stevie is able to sing, 😁
Classic hair rock! I still like this song.
So much Aquanet and angst
i been looking for song 20 years i love the song.
this is now my new fav song
great song love this jam.
Great song
I miss these days!
I remember this video pretty much being the end of this genre getting MTV airplay.
Stevie's the man! I wonder though how many times he called Brett Michaels.
i dont knew them.. very good song, very beauty guys ❤.
yes i miss the 80s to.i think i listen 2 this song everyday lol
I have such a soft spot for the 80's ballads because they show and bring out the feminine side of these supposed hard guys who make womanizing an art form. They truly inside do feel mor for and about females than just the physical. And that is where the inspiration comes for alot of this romantic stuff. Yes some of it is contrived to make money at the time, but alot is also sincere and that is admirable. Guys need to start representing our gender better and showing females how special they are.
under rated ballad for butt rock
PERFECTION 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
Love this power ballad by Tuff!! Stevie looks so hot here!! Oh wait where didn't he look hot!!! Yummmmmmmy....:D
love love love long hair,and pretty boys lol
I read an article that went: it wasn't grunge that killed hair metal. It was the audience sick of low profile clones that sounded the same. And for Tuff much of it is not wrong
rockerdrake true but this tune is awesome.
LOVE IT!!!!!
Oh God, I loved Stevie Rachelle's pretty face! :-*
Hmm.. where is Jorge!?
I sure will, and vice versa for me as well. He hasn't responded to my email yet, and I can't figure out where I put his phone number at (yes I still write numbers down on scraps of paper!), but when I do talk to him I will definitely tell him! Todd seems pretty mad at him but I love the little guy! He was my bestie in the Hollywood days!
I love the lead singers talent love him in the band every mothers nightmare
I'm diggin that NAPCO Chevy at 1:18
i have this CD....i love this band
I LOVE ❤️ YOU STEVIE
Yeah I just noticed them myself. I think the drums in general sound great on this album!