P3 changes & dates - what's good vs bad + PvP end of season | PREPARED: Classic TBC Podcast #34

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  • Опубликовано: 15 июл 2024
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    0:00:00 - Intro
    0:02:13 - How Zirene broke his hands
    0:06:41 - Sno’s Christmas present to Zirene
    0:14:51 - Sno’s new year and birthday plans
    0:19:00 - PvP engy items removed from Arena S3
    0:23:14 - Why engy belt nerf actually buffs double dps comps
    0:24:55 - Why the PvP grind needs to be changed
    0:29:13 - Skull of Impending doom meta nerfed at last
    0:36:57 - PTR’s mistake honor change should be permanent
    0:41:25 - PvP’s noob friendly problem
    0:45:53 - Chanimal is a robot
    0:48:27 - $100k TBC PvP tournament
    0:53:05 - Paimon got half of NA pvp teams disqualified
    0:55:29 - Payo accused of playing for glad boost
    1:01:01 - Blizzard ignored the 3k mmr problem
    1:03:39 - Mass gold buying bans going out
    1:07:06 - Blizzard’s scuffed PTR testing
    1:10:50 - Black Temple difficulty is really really low
    1:20:40 - BS fight mechanics vs. good difficulty
    1:27:06 - Why Black Wing Lair was the peak of classic WoW hype
    1:32:28 - Why Zirene hates the BT Gurthogg cheese
    1:35:35 - Blizzard’s reply on the ‘State of TBC Servers’
    1:38:38 - Should battle chicken buff be nerfed?
    1:48:08 - How long should p3 last? And why a Thursday release date?
    1:53:34 - Teron Gorefiend mini game
    1:56:31 - Sno is building a searchable loot pro website
    2:01:28 - Why bis lists are often flawed / discussion loot prior context (long)
    2:21:25 - Hyjal’s is heavily trash damage favored
    2:25:31 - Brian Birmingham confirms P3 launch timing
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Комментарии • 45

  • @ClassicRoguecraft
    @ClassicRoguecraft  2 года назад

    GUIDES/PODCAST DISCORD ►► discord.gg/T9XQJw7gJj

    • @Ashanthala
      @Ashanthala 2 года назад

      Insane timing as usual lmao

    • @jasonu3741
      @jasonu3741 2 года назад

      I would make a few changes to the Engi Chicken
      #1 It no longer stacks (1 person buffs the whole group like drums) for 5% haste or 80 haste rating
      #2 the Battlesqwak always goes off (the chicken always sqwaks after engaging a target)
      #3 Trinket CD reduced to 5 mins chicken only lasts 2 mins
      #4 battlesqwak buff effects melee and melee ranged attacks (hunters) and lasts 1 min (chicken will always keep it up for 2 mins)
      that way its still valuable and removes all the annoyances of getting the sqwak on pull BUT its not the stackable broken buff it currently is.
      also Ravager for Trash in Hyjal!

  • @Zuljyn
    @Zuljyn 2 года назад

    Love the uploads Sno! I haven't played TBC classic in months but I still watch every single episode while working. No skips, I'm here for the full 2 hour rambles!

  • @MF_Zurg
    @MF_Zurg 2 года назад +5

    I don’t think Zirene is appreciating that we’re going to be clearing BT on multiple characters every week for 6 months. We don’t need BT to be longer to increase your satisfaction. Find your satisfaction from clearing content as fast as possible or go for top 10 world parse

  • @fjjkk
    @fjjkk 2 года назад +8

    Just when the boys thought they covered all big news. Microsoft bought Activision Blizzard. 🙃

    • @dlmurray55
      @dlmurray55 2 года назад

      I know right! I so click on this video hoping it was in the video 😂

  • @Trakhen
    @Trakhen 2 года назад +1

    Me, as a Rogue main, and one of the main raiders since the last few months of classic, in Mount Hyjal:
    Fancy Clothes gear set and stocked up on Fireworks, running around the raid and cheering them on.

  • @conradicalized
    @conradicalized 2 года назад

    Zirene on pokemon yellow is off base lol. They added Mankey (fighting type) to yellow's grass pre-gym 1.

  • @Knickelmann
    @Knickelmann 2 года назад +1

    im okay with the chickens as is - I just think they should make it easier to swap between specializations like how it is for other professions in TBC

  • @massi0729
    @massi0729 2 года назад

    I really liked your topic on 1:10:50 - Black Temple difficulty is really really low :
    I also think the content is devalued by nerfing T5 and having such weak T6 encounters.
    Also, setting the old bosses to drop more items (3 T5 tokens) is bullshit. It devalues everything the PVE game is about. Item rivalry.

  • @MF_Zurg
    @MF_Zurg 2 года назад +1

    “There was no challenge in BT” *Runs bis meta comp with private server players*

  • @Wild_Open
    @Wild_Open 2 года назад

    My guild stopped raiding a while ago and as a rogue main I'm not gonna bother with trying to find a spot somewhere else, but I still enjoy these vids a lot!

  • @PitviperX
    @PitviperX 2 года назад

    where is the ahlaundoh clip where he's mad at people for popping chickens?

  • @FlyingNimbuscloud
    @FlyingNimbuscloud 2 года назад

    you catch a caterpie which learns confusion when it hits lvl 10 and evolves into butterfree and than confusion stomps brock

  • @Taxic89
    @Taxic89 2 года назад

    I'M WITH THE BUFF CHICKENS GANG

  • @CelticGods
    @CelticGods 2 года назад +3

    Don't know who the guy talking is but he knows nothing of Shadow priests. 2:13:43 is all completely wrong. He basically claims that ZD is a dps LOSS if you don't have the items he mentions. This is all bollocks

  • @krasik200
    @krasik200 2 года назад

    any chance for the spreadsheet link?

  • @workingben2306
    @workingben2306 2 года назад

    was fun gents.

  • @erheetrherh2659
    @erheetrherh2659 2 года назад

    3 months of BT then 2 months of ZA then 3-4 months of SWP.

  • @Keilink
    @Keilink 2 года назад +1

    1:03:46 To be frank, now that daily quests are available and more are to come with the Nether drake farm, getting gold for consumables for 2 or 3 nights of raid isn't that complicated.
    You don't need 20 to 30 hast pots per night, most bosses can easily be killed without it, usually if you do it's because you're in a ultra hardcore/speedrun guild and that's what you *signed* for knowingly.
    Even if I agree regarding scrolls, at some point if people don't even have time to farm the basic consums why even play classic when tons of mmos out there are low playtime/high rewards already? -_-

  • @PitviperX
    @PitviperX 2 года назад

    yes on guaranteed chicken

  • @isaarunarom7830
    @isaarunarom7830 2 года назад

    Vale and green beam in netherspite. VR , lurker(my favorite)

  • @supahdupah207
    @supahdupah207 2 года назад

    The arena points system is so demotivating. "Sweet in a month I can afford 1 piece and by the end of the season I'll have my 2 set bonus finally" being facetious, but that's what it feels like.

  • @patrikleitner5073
    @patrikleitner5073 2 года назад +4

    can u link this spreadsheet from the loot councile?

  • @philippecote8571
    @philippecote8571 2 года назад

    R1 was 220rating higher than Glad in 2s. And pushing past 3k cr is much harder due to mmr cap.

  • @increasegas2221
    @increasegas2221 2 года назад

    ulduar had the best ways to make raid bosses harder, such a shame it only lasted 1 tier, what could have been

    • @viermidebutura
      @viermidebutura 2 года назад

      Is more development time ths way... or so they say because the heroic version is not just a time x stats but new abilities and mechanics

  • @Cuddlehead
    @Cuddlehead 2 года назад

    summon 2 black balls

  • @Juggs_WoW
    @Juggs_WoW 2 года назад

    I would get into arena but being so far behind on the gear grind... I can't really commit myself to grinding out all the honor pieces and also getting the 5 pieces of arena gear/weps just to not get globaled

    • @shwanshadaia8638
      @shwanshadaia8638 2 года назад

      No need to get 5/5 honor gear to get into pvp as a rogue. Just do 10 games weekly and you’ll be 5/5 vengeful in no time

    • @Juggs_WoW
      @Juggs_WoW 2 года назад

      @@shwanshadaia8638 my comment was more in general rather than class specific.

  • @Lizard1582
    @Lizard1582 2 года назад

    I immediately visited CaptainFlower's twitch to ask if why he broke Zirene's hand.

  • @JSuperstar20
    @JSuperstar20 2 года назад

    Nooo, in pokemon yellow you catch a Nidoran on the first road, level it to lvl12 so it learns Double Kick, a Fighting move that is super effective against Rock types!

    • @Crey_Rob
      @Crey_Rob 2 года назад

      literally this. Also you can get mankey in that same spot with karate chop at 10-12ish.
      Imagine this scrub leveling pikachu to handle brock kekw

  • @increasegas2221
    @increasegas2221 2 года назад +3

    spriest haste breakpoint is such a meme, it doesn't really matter

  • @jimbotheimpaler4756
    @jimbotheimpaler4756 2 года назад

    First twenty best twenty 😂

  • @edwardkwan4886
    @edwardkwan4886 2 года назад +1

    does anyone have link to the spreadsheets they are talking about?

  • @megamanx627
    @megamanx627 2 года назад

    Here's an idea for For Bee Gees we're on season 3 I say move season 2 gear as well to honor Just Increase the amount of honor you get in BG is by 50% however.
    We could give them gold for winning or losing for example if you were to lose a battleground you get 10 gold If you when you get 20.
    That way we could turn it into a way for people actually to make And since a lot of people So the respecting tax doesn't feel so bad I mean and it's not enough for it to feel efficient but good enough for it to feel not as horrible

  • @rahbeat9785
    @rahbeat9785 2 года назад

    ferst

  • @le4289
    @le4289 2 года назад

    atleast elden ring is just around the corner.
    no challenge, no fun.

  • @MF_Zurg
    @MF_Zurg 2 года назад

    Glaives is bis for rogue and warrior for the rest of the game for pve. Warrior has a very small dps gain over rogue on trash but the rogue will use glaives for pvp and will use glaives to level through wotlk and can even walk into 10 man naxx with glaives as their prebis. While the warriors will REPLACE in wotlk pre patch with titan grip. Anyone saying glaives should go to a warrior over a rogue when it’s between two equally skilled players/guild contributors is griefing.

    • @mikkel9840
      @mikkel9840 2 года назад

      I play a rogue but even I think you are griefing if you distribute Glaives based on their usefulness in WotLK..

    • @MF_Zurg
      @MF_Zurg 2 года назад

      @@mikkel9840 It's about longevity and usefulness of the item. Mainhand glaive is a 75 DPS upgrade over bis and for a warrior it's like 7 dps. The offhand is like a 15-20 dps upgrade over savagry and massive upgrade over anything previous. It's actually a DPS loss for a warrior to use the offhand alone instead of their previous bis. This means any glaive given to a warrior before the set is actually wasted and not a dps gain for your raid.
      There's also a good chance warriors will be able to duel wield dragonstrike in phase 4 which will amount to the same amount of haste and possibly a higher hast proc chance than glaives. Which makes the DPS difference between warrior previous BiS and glaives much smaller than a rogue. Where the dps gain for a rogue is close to 300 dps for the set.
      THEN you throw in the fact that rogue will use glaives in PvP and leveling through the next expac and as prebis for the first raid tier. While warriors will perma bank glaives in the PREPATCH for wotlk for titan grip. Give me a break.
      IF you have a great rogue and you are giving glaives to your warrior first, you're raid is actually griefing and huffing some hard fight club copium.

    • @mikkel9840
      @mikkel9840 2 года назад

      @@MF_Zurg Way to move the goal posts mate... I literally just said you were griefing if you distribute TBC based on its WotLK usefulness, and you proceed to explain all the TBC reasons to me.