So damn true !! Am addicted to this man!! And I want his voice on every single topic!! It's just not enough!!!!!! Abhijit bhai if you are seeing this, please talk more on more vast topics!!!!!! You have a fan base here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Abhijeet is the kind of Modi ,Hindutva critic who makes sense . Because left of India is soo corrupt and mean it's better to have Abhijeet as the prime opposition to Modi Govt.
That's the beauty abt eloquence. The appeal of fluidity veils the distortion nd mutilation of truth. He's not always wrong and definitely not always right. No one can..
Very one is a critic of Modi in some ways. I think he has done little to take India away from the white man’s version of history I schools but that does not mean I don’t appreciate what he is doing. He has to undo the slavish education system that was uncritically promoted by the congress regime
@@gumnaam4302 thats the power of bias as well as far as abhijeet is concerned he is not always right but definately not always wrong...your reversal of it and putting the quality 'eloquence' in a style of coining to attack credibility and as an agent of mutiliation or trickery explains the grander power of bias than fluidity to distort.....one who is perceiving ..,the eloquence of shashi and abhijeet are different but knowing that the biased one will first talk about abhijeet in poor light than shashi because its clear abhijjet knows his job in excellence more than a more eloquence friendly shashi....
‘The Left’ has some brilliant people. The left echo chamber and trolls don’t let the “others” interact with the ‘Left’. That is the biggest problem for any non-left leaning person to try to engage, learn and find a coherent way to criticise and examine policies.
I like Anand. But, he is like a poet, author & teacher. When we have any light subject or a debate, Anand can bring a flash of new views. But, Abhijit is highly read, analysed various past events and comes up with a logical course of prescription. This area is not everybody’s cup of tea. Another point about Anand, he can be put against a person like Sashi Tharoor. To be honest, I have developed an aversion with those who studied in an English Medium Boarding school like Doon School and speak a bamboozling English because they are basically and predominantly dishonest and they do not have any substance. If you have watched how Devdutt Patnaik crushed Mr. N. Ram of The Hindu you will find how arrogant & judgemental these Left Liberals are and they are hollow except their westernised English.
Lot of good takeaways from this conversation. Any news outlet is propaganda if you are able to figure out their ideology/political leaning, that's the best way to filter out information, I would hear out Abhijeet on defence related topic, Sai on any judicial topics, Swapan Das on idea of India (in contrast with Sashi Tarhoor) and make up my mind on hundreds of topics which need critical understanding, it would be quite naive for people to think one media or one new channel can be right/true/accurate all the time. True news doesn't come curated anymore, it needs a be worked for. Also it is important to remember that people are not really loyal to one political party, they are more tied to different narratives that define these political party. As long as Rahul Gandi is a PM face of the opposition i wouldn't vote of it, the day sashi tarhoor pushes for a same sex marriage bill (as in equality) I would vote of his party. If BJP continues on it's economic development trajectory (I come from a tier 2 city we now have metro under the bjp government) I will vote of Modi and his cabinate. In short give me reason why not to vote for Modi then give me reason on why to vote modi then my internal compass will decide based on tradeoffs based on better of two evils (I say evil because 'political hamam me sabhi nange hai!'!) . At the moment that moral compass is pointing at Modi. Change my mind! Thanks for this conversation, now i can go on with my day's work!
Political hamam mein ab nange hai!! There is no one in politics for tirath or to get in higher conciousness....Politics is all about manipulation and tricks to be in power. PPL's welfare come secondary...Also BJP is no ifferent then any other political party or vice versa.
all party's are same bro, but in current scenario I agree that we don't have better options. Lack of strong opposition is helping BJP more than their deeds.
Exactly, Abhijit... There are 3 kinds of Hindutva-vadis: 1. The progressives 2. Conservatives 3. Regressives I recently came across someone from this third class of fools who claim "caste system prevents undue competition", "Shri Krishna advocated for caste system... are you better than him?", "The Vedic culture didn't pollute nature unlike Western industrialization", etc. They are the ones who drove me (& I presume a number of others too) away from Hindutva a while ago. The American cultural icons like Elon Musk, Bezos, etc., seem way more appealing in the face of someone who tells me that just because I come from an ancestral farming background (which I actually do), I must stick to my profession (stick to the "familial competencies"). Ambitious Indians (Hindus) will not favor Hindutva (if not downright seek to diminish it) if these voices ever rise above the fringe (where I hope they are now). And it's the ambitious individuals who led to the recent rise of the Northern Europeans (the "West"). The average shrub farmer who stayed in his place or the entrenched nobility didn't make it happen. The ones who made me reconsider (& hopefully those others too) are you, J.S Deepak, Abhinav Prakash Singh, etc. The metropolitan youth won't exactly be moved by non-futuristic thinking. The best case would be for India to become a leading center of knowledge & commerce once again, while retaining it's civilizational identity. But a purist aversion to absorbing ideas from out-groups will be catastrophic to even our most immediate future (with China working 20-30 year plans to dominate the world with data, AI, outer space).
Abhijeet made a brilliant point at 56.10 just because Arnab's right wing opinions are funded by ads doesn't make it any less worse than Abhinandan's left wing opinions which are funded by it's support model both are creating an Ecochamber of opinions both are setting their preferred narrative. So, both are catering to a set of people why should Newslaundry hold a moral ground over Republic? Infact Newslaundry probably has 98 or so videos on Arnab So what Arnab is to Newslaundry is what Modi is to kunal kamra.
Difference is facts. Republic has been caught multiple times spreading inaccurate information. That's why it's inaccurate to call that journalism. Also there is a degree of biasness. There is a reason we refrain from calling a centre right person a ultra right. That's it with Arnab. He is so far gone that its unrecognisable.
@@AbhishekChauhan-hc8od Bhai kehne ki baat hai. Tell me what factually incorrect thing has NewsLaundry reported? I can tell you 5-10 for Republic TV, Times Now etc.
Newslaundry holds moral superiority because it is funded by common people. If it betrays people and lies to them they will not subscribe to it. Legacy media runs on ads by corporations and so they are willing to manipulate and lie to the people as long as they are getting a lot of ads.
Next with MD Nalapat on the mindset that will take over pok (editor of Sunday guardian) After that Sanjeev Sanyal ( principal economic advisor) on cities and economic backend structures , Bibek Debroy (chairman of economic advisory board) is also someone who will talk on puranas and chanakyan economics (16.96% tax) Please get these people (within 1yr if you could)
I like PG Radio not because I agree with its views but because I agree with its approach. We may have many differences but what is needed is to find in how many ways we agree and keep the dialogue open until we reach the converging point. I believe that a sincere discussion & dialogue between very honest divergent people can bring a fantastic new view points than between a two in agreement. Those who are truly democratic can only work towards convergence. Again, remember, convergence does not mean two are totally agreeing but they agree on prioritisation of so many actions (so many baby steps) a young democratic & diverse country like India should make. I have voted for Modiji in 2014 & 2019 and perhaps May vote again in 2024. But, like Abhijit Iyer Mitra, I do have strong disagreement with Modiji’s government functioning. But, it is 100 times better than the corrupt UPA. I do not want to sing in praise of Modiji forgetting so many other steps we need to make. I do not want to work for optics but for results. If I am given a chance to work with this Govt,, I shall surely invite many well meaning people like Abhijit and perhaps will be able to bind Abhijit with some serious work in the government, especially in the Strategic & Security matters.
The art to not offend any side should be learned from prakhar 😂😂 loved the conversation bro now I know how to talk to my friends with extreme positions from both sides 😁
It would be amazing if you bring one guy from left and one guy from non left together. It would be a treat to watch nuanced arguments from both the sides. Also, the hypocrite side inside them will come out in the open.
Abhijit is the mirror which governments should keep in front of them, but is there any way he is leading anyone, yes by being a mirror and showing what is working and what is not
He brings various people intellectuals from different spectrum dont tell him to bring only rightwing people give him time he will bring all intellectuals from different spectrum
Idiot! Where did I tell him to bring people from rw only???fyi I've listened more leftists than other side in my life...Kuch bhi matlab? Do u think abhijeet or anand is rw?😆 Sorry bro u r a greenhorn, too naive n ignorant.... Don't apply western concept of wings in India,not going in depth but they aren't simply applicable here...
Hi Prakhar, everything from the beginning to the end was spot-on. Abhijit is indeed an intelligent and well-read man. However, at 50:40, and then throughout the Abhinandan Sikhri segment, there could have been a couple of strong rebuttals to Abhijit's arguments that 'we should discard both news streams because they are all biased'. 1. While he didn't like the news outlets such as NDTV, Scroll, The Wire and News Laundry because they are also ideologically driven, one can not skip the part they these news outlets do indeed show/cover much important daily news across the country (non-opinionated) in comparison to RepublicTV, ZeeNews and others. For years I have observed these left-wing outlets covers a lot more of our current problems like unemployment, natural crisis (2018 in Kerala, 2020 Bengal, Assam), water crisis, and most of the average Indian concerns, much more clearly and in their prime-time/daily news than the right-wing does. I don't think the right and left is ideologically driven to the same degree and that is extremely "important". It's like saying FOX and Economist/MSNBC/NYT are all BS because they all ideologically driven. 'Right' in India, I feel has gone too far in serving its interests, and its basically discounting the left just because they also publish opiniated pieces. 2. Now, this is very specific to NDTV. I feel NDTV has a perenial anti-government bias not particularly a left or socialist one or even if they did have a socialist bias, they are very very committed to it, which actually makes them more trustworthy because they are not connected to any person or institution but to a clear ideology of serving common people. Why I say this, If you go back in years of 2012-2014, NDTV was one of the foremost critics of Congress Govt and they also supported many ideas/politicians from the BJP and AAP. (Lokpal, RTI, anti-corrpution, anti-dynasty). They also continued that in the past in Vajpayee years and congress-I (I just don't have the confidence in the statement because I was too young to observe). I feel if you can somehow arrange to have Abhijit and Abhinandan together, that would an extremely amazing podcast. Both are decent human and quite knowledgeable in their own field. I would pay for that stuff. Take care!
Do you also think that the tools they both used for propaganda are also very different ? I mean, there are many time when I noticed the channels like Republic tv giving space to clear cut fake news ( some footage wrongly associated to ongoing context ), But it's not so common in other spectrum. I mean if your narrative is equally noble then why your means are not. Other thing, lack of communication is an another thing. I have rarely seen arnab on any public platform where he can be questioned.
@@shubhamsapra2259 Narratives of both the spectrum of news-outlets is not inherently "noble" it's the belief system that makes them different. Left or left-associated news outlets want to promote peace and harmony within communities and being a Hindu-majority country they are more protective of minorities and that's why they try their best to show the minorities in good light, which is again a compromise, but to some extent understandable. That's why they under-report crimes done by minorities and push back severely on the crimes of majority i.e. Hindu-right. But what Republic/Zee news does is to completely hide the truth. People are dying in floods, there is mass unemployment, but they are doing debates of nepotism, ram mandir, Pakistan ki barbadi, corona-jihad - topics which hold really less to no-relevance to the general public. It's like the Stalin-Moaist-Kim-Jong equivalent of right-wing. Hide any news that can summon public outrage. Its ironical that Abhijit referred to the BJP as Bharatiya communist party because a lot of their supporters-base/methods and power holding tactics are reminiscent of the early years of Communism and even that CPM. And regarding choosing between two streams of news outlets, if both are, let's say not noble, it's always better to choose the one which is the lesser evil.
@@krishnendumukherjee5002 Regarding your point 1, don't you think the left outlets showcase the new you mentioned because the current government is centre right? Don't you think that, maybe, republic (at the very least) would do the same when, let's say, congress or someone else comes to power? Whatsay?
@@rohanmirza3477 No I don't think the left outlets have somehow changed after 2014. Many in fact as I said NDTV, NewsLaundry, were hard critics of Congress government and did voice many BJP concerns. See the thing is, if you want to validate my viewpoints, just look for NDTV news reporting during 2012-2014 times, you'll know what I am saying. They reported major economic failures of congress govt., scams, etc. And that is why I think they have an inherent ideological bias and are not tied to any political party, which makes them more reliable than their right-wing counterparts. While, the likes of ZeeNews, republic are literally serving the interests of one party and may I dare say, a few people in the top positions, which is extremely dangerous and always remain a threat to democracy. And I can definitely say that if congress indeed comes to power, channels like NDTV and other left-wing outlets would be their foremost critics.
27:47 About federalism question, maybe let's think about more why federalism at state level will not do much good (maybe more bad) Many of our states are themselves of the size of countries so similar problems persist (and there are more arguments, like language based states boundaries which only increased the divide in India, etc etc). But how about more federalism wrt chartered cities... So maybe a question for some next guest to whom it suits, what if we do away with states and directly empower districts. Forget constitution for now, just a hypothetical.
Absolutely fun to hear this conversation. But I beg to differ from what Mr Mitra said entirely. I believe we need to have a holistic view of Modi's work. Socialist yes, but steps are being taken to stimulate growth through privatization of assets.
The media industry is changing, before mass media people got their news from each other, then when radio and TV came they were fed with propaganda, now with social media and conversations like this we're going back to that phase where we get info from different sources. Now we're able to filter the bullshit and listen to conversations like this to make ourselves clear about issues and current affairs.
Abhijit should look at chronology research by the likes of Nilesh Oak. Going by Romila Thapar's dating of Rig Veda is strange for someone who hates third raters and mediocrity.
I dont agree with Abhijit . He criticize GST . Before GST , It was easy to send the goods to UK then to state UP from Maharashtra . In terms of Infrastructure BJP has done much more better than INC . BJP is coming with a new education policy in next 10 days , where ISRO ex Chairman, IIT professors and great minds are involved . Its a complete 180 degree shift. Also you cant expect magic in 6 years as compare to what Congress screwed in 70 years .Removed article 370 from Kashmir . China enjoyed the fruits of education after 2 decades. Yes Abhijeet is definitely good in Defence but i cant take his advice in other subjects.
Abhijit repeatedly saying "la di da di da" is so irritating. Its not his fault though, the third class acts by our governments obviously frustrated him up.
Could you have a read at the New Education Policy that was announced after your chat & invite Abhijit again to share his views too. You guys mentioned education so it would be quite an interesting follow-up to this amazing talk.
The challenge in India is of centre state alignment on any matter. Ideas are opposed bcos politics of parties calls for it. That's why the preoccupation of the centre in having its party govern the state's too. As a result explosive growth has deluded India all the time except when IT and outsourcing seized global imagination in 2000s. Even there , it was inspite of and not bcos of UPA govt. The second challenge is the enormous power wielded by bureaucrats who are not accountable to anyone and are used to power as a source of self aggrandisement rather than as service to nation. It is funny that these two classes , politician and bureaucracy blame each other. The third challenge is the falling apart of the false social and national narrative peddled by nehruvian vision of India, faced with the onslaught of factual information enabled by internet and the social media. The people expectation now goes beyond mere livelihood matters to cultura identity and the need for truth and reconciliation. It also has called the bluff of the elitist intelligentsia and in a sense is seeking to democratise soft power. The fourth challenge is the disruption caused by the elite together with a decimated congress by virtue of the eco system traditionally dominated by them, only bcos they're unable to digest that a government in India could ever rise above the divide and rule policy and pursue development and safeguarding of national integrity. Lest they get consigned to dust bin of history, this lobby is trying to project the present regime as dividing the society by spreading deliberate falsehood and fear mongering.
If you are not in left wing then you had your common Sense working and you are intellectual. Understanding to the reality nearest picture is here.if you don't like, give me up forever.
India has no dearth of analysts. The problems of development are hamstrung by an entrenched bureaucracy and political opportunism. Basic needs versus catching up with the industrialized nations is non-starter. The state has to concentrate on creating an enabling environment that will help Indian society to realize it;s potential.
prakhar bhaiya You should make an podcast about nihlism and existential crisis If all of us and even if the universe is going to sleep forever one day than What's the point of doing, developing or achieving anything in our life
Abhijeet mentions " third ratedness " as though his definition or standard is the benchmark. Is there an international accepted marker for "third ratedness "? I am really not able to wrap my head around a single GST slab. Abhijeet wants his BMW taxed at the same level as a tiger biscuit ?
Everyone weighs this in reference to something... So he is rating it as third class which is right according to him... Tum apna kaam kro use apna krne do
He is factually wrong at @11:00, the first Rashidun Calliphate was a democratic state where people in now Egypt, Israel and adjoining territories previously ruled by Byzantine were allowed to follow their religion and powers were given to local subordinates. Also, these areas were exempted of heavy taxes. Something similar happened in South East Asia. Don't just nod your head at everything.
It's a addiction now to listen Abhijit on any topic.
he is really well read and gives me a complex , "how dumb i am ". A very fresh prospective.
dil ki baat keh dia!
True
Same
So damn true !! Am addicted to this man!! And I want his voice on every single topic!! It's just not enough!!!!!! Abhijit bhai if you are seeing this, please talk more on more vast topics!!!!!! You have a fan base here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Abhijeet is the kind of Modi ,Hindutva critic who makes sense . Because left of India is soo corrupt and mean it's better to have Abhijeet as the prime opposition to Modi Govt.
That's the beauty abt eloquence. The appeal of fluidity veils the distortion nd mutilation of truth. He's not always wrong and definitely not always right. No one can..
Very one is a critic of Modi in some ways. I think he has done little to take India away from the white man’s version of history I schools but that does not mean I don’t appreciate what he is doing. He has to undo the slavish education system that was uncritically promoted by the congress regime
How do you say that he is anti Hindutva
@@gumnaam4302 thats the power of bias as well as far as abhijeet is concerned he is not always right but definately not always wrong...your reversal of it and putting the quality 'eloquence' in a style of coining to attack credibility and as an agent of mutiliation or trickery explains the grander power of bias than fluidity to distort.....one who is perceiving ..,the eloquence of shashi and abhijeet are different but knowing that the biased one will first talk about abhijeet in poor light than shashi because its clear abhijjet knows his job in excellence more than a more eloquence friendly shashi....
‘The Left’ has some brilliant people. The left echo chamber and trolls don’t let the “others” interact with the ‘Left’. That is the biggest problem for any non-left leaning person to try to engage, learn and find a coherent way to criticise and examine policies.
Abhijit is a gem of an intellectual. I would also recommend that you invite Dr. Anand Ranganathan.
I like Anand. But, he is like a poet, author & teacher. When we have any light subject or a debate, Anand can bring a flash of new views. But, Abhijit is highly read, analysed various past events and comes up with a logical course of prescription. This area is not everybody’s cup of tea. Another point about Anand, he can be put against a person like Sashi Tharoor. To be honest, I have developed an aversion with those who studied in an English Medium Boarding school like Doon School and speak a bamboozling English because they are basically and predominantly dishonest and they do not have any substance. If you have watched how Devdutt Patnaik crushed Mr. N. Ram of The Hindu you will find how arrogant & judgemental these Left Liberals are and they are hollow except their westernised English.
@@VenugopalanV-v5x True, but should you go through Kushal Mehra's podcast with him, it was very illuminating, too.
@@varadhk3159 I recognize you through your name :-)
@@VenugopalanV-v5x true
I saw you on quora :) ,u remember Aditya Vats?
Whenever I see Abhijit
I click
ruclips.net/video/9mAMkNQvi44/видео.html
Enjoy this today then :)
@@THEJAIPURDIALOGUES
Hello Sanjiv Ji.
When ever i see Sanjiv Dixit ji i Click.
Same here👍🏻
Bring Prof. Abhinav Prakash his take on Dalit issues, Hindutva and Indian sociology is worth listening. He's an original thinker I can say.
Watch his podcast on Sham Sharma's channel
Thanks for bringing Abhijit i love this guy he is brutally honest❤
Abhijith is She/Her (IYKWIM 😉)
@@BharatSecurityWatch no, what in the world do u mean?
Do one on Moplah riots, I was astounded how it was brushed under the carpet
yes that's a horrible horrible incident
This would be an amazing podcast. Abhijeet is one of the best defence expert of our country.
Brutally honest. Love abhijit.
Lot of good takeaways from this conversation.
Any news outlet is propaganda if you are able to figure out their ideology/political leaning, that's the best way to filter out information, I would hear out Abhijeet on defence related topic, Sai on any judicial topics, Swapan Das on idea of India (in contrast with Sashi Tarhoor) and make up my mind on hundreds of topics which need critical understanding, it would be quite naive for people to think one media or one new channel can be right/true/accurate all the time.
True news doesn't come curated anymore, it needs a be worked for. Also it is important to remember that people are not really loyal to one political party, they are more tied to different narratives that define these political party.
As long as Rahul Gandi is a PM face of the opposition i wouldn't vote of it, the day sashi tarhoor pushes for a same sex marriage bill (as in equality) I would vote of his party. If BJP continues on it's economic development trajectory (I come from a tier 2 city we now have metro under the bjp government) I will vote of Modi and his cabinate.
In short give me reason why not to vote for Modi then give me reason on why to vote modi then my internal compass will decide based on tradeoffs based on better of two evils (I say evil because 'political hamam me sabhi nange hai!'!) .
At the moment that moral compass is pointing at Modi.
Change my mind!
Thanks for this conversation, now i can go on with my day's work!
Did you say something about growth?
Political hamam mein ab nange hai!! There is no one in politics for tirath or to get in higher conciousness....Politics is all about manipulation and tricks to be in power. PPL's welfare come secondary...Also BJP is no ifferent then any other political party or vice versa.
all party's are same bro, but in current scenario I agree that we don't have better options. Lack of strong opposition is helping BJP more than their deeds.
Exactly, Abhijit... There are 3 kinds of Hindutva-vadis:
1. The progressives
2. Conservatives
3. Regressives
I recently came across someone from this third class of fools who claim "caste system prevents undue competition", "Shri Krishna advocated for caste system... are you better than him?", "The Vedic culture didn't pollute nature unlike Western industrialization", etc.
They are the ones who drove me (& I presume a number of others too) away from Hindutva a while ago. The American cultural icons like Elon Musk, Bezos, etc., seem way more appealing in the face of someone who tells me that just because I come from an ancestral farming background (which I actually do), I must stick to my profession (stick to the "familial competencies").
Ambitious Indians (Hindus) will not favor Hindutva (if not downright seek to diminish it) if these voices ever rise above the fringe (where I hope they are now). And it's the ambitious individuals who led to the recent rise of the Northern Europeans (the "West"). The average shrub farmer who stayed in his place or the entrenched nobility didn't make it happen.
The ones who made me reconsider (& hopefully those others too) are you, J.S Deepak, Abhinav Prakash Singh, etc. The metropolitan youth won't exactly be moved by non-futuristic thinking.
The best case would be for India to become a leading center of knowledge & commerce once again, while retaining it's civilizational identity. But a purist aversion to absorbing ideas from out-groups will be catastrophic to even our most immediate future (with China working 20-30 year plans to dominate the world with data, AI, outer space).
I hope the growing popularity of such intellectuals lead the masses to gradually adapt progressive Hindutva.
You’re right, the Orthodox faction overshadows the more moderate RSS faction and completely pushes out the Savarkarite faction
PG getting my hopes up
Abhijeet made a brilliant point at 56.10 just because Arnab's right wing opinions are funded by ads doesn't make it any less worse than Abhinandan's left wing opinions which are funded by it's support model both are creating an Ecochamber of opinions both are setting their preferred narrative. So, both are catering to a set of people why should Newslaundry hold a moral ground over Republic?
Infact Newslaundry probably has 98 or so videos on Arnab So what Arnab is to Newslaundry is what Modi is to kunal kamra.
Difference is facts. Republic has been caught multiple times spreading inaccurate information. That's why it's inaccurate to call that journalism.
Also there is a degree of biasness. There is a reason we refrain from calling a centre right person a ultra right.
That's it with Arnab. He is so far gone that its unrecognisable.
@@suyashawasthi1 LOL
@@suyashawasthi1 be on the side of right and u will see newslaundry, ndtv equally biased and spreading fake news.
@@AbhishekChauhan-hc8od Bhai kehne ki baat hai. Tell me what factually incorrect thing has NewsLaundry reported? I can tell you 5-10 for Republic TV, Times Now etc.
Newslaundry holds moral superiority because it is funded by common people. If it betrays people and lies to them they will not subscribe to it. Legacy media runs on ads by corporations and so they are willing to manipulate and lie to the people as long as they are getting a lot of ads.
Hey Abhijit, Bro create a RUclips channel of ur own. Its time!!!!
Please bring Nitin Gupta Revaldo. He is right wing stand up comic which is rear breed in stand up comic around the world.
True .. He used to make fun of the scams really well. I also saw his standup live in Mumbai
Thanks for revealing these wonderful personalities to us. An eye opener. Definitely
Next with MD Nalapat on the mindset that will take over pok (editor of Sunday guardian)
After that Sanjeev Sanyal ( principal economic advisor) on cities and economic backend structures , Bibek Debroy (chairman of economic advisory board) is also someone who will talk on puranas and chanakyan economics (16.96% tax)
Please get these people (within 1yr if you could)
you could reverse it also....sanjeev on indian cultural or geographical history and Bibek on Economy.
Half of the prophecy is complete 😂
I like PG Radio not because I agree with its views but because I agree with its approach. We may have many differences but what is needed is to find in how many ways we agree and keep the dialogue open until we reach the converging point. I believe that a sincere discussion & dialogue between very honest divergent people can bring a fantastic new view points than between a two in agreement. Those who are truly democratic can only work towards convergence. Again, remember, convergence does not mean two are totally agreeing but they agree on prioritisation of so many actions (so many baby steps) a young democratic & diverse country like India should make. I have voted for Modiji in 2014 & 2019 and perhaps May vote again in 2024. But, like Abhijit Iyer Mitra, I do have strong disagreement with Modiji’s government functioning. But, it is 100 times better than the corrupt UPA. I do not want to sing in praise of Modiji forgetting so many other steps we need to make. I do not want to work for optics but for results. If I am given a chance to work with this Govt,, I shall surely invite many well meaning people like Abhijit and perhaps will be able to bind Abhijit with some serious work in the government, especially in the Strategic & Security matters.
Hey man it was quality talk .I have subs u. Mitra is a gem glad u call him .
The art to not offend any side should be learned from prakhar 😂😂 loved the conversation bro now I know how to talk to my friends with extreme positions from both sides 😁
It would be amazing if you bring one guy from left and one guy from non left together. It would be a treat to watch nuanced arguments from both the sides. Also, the hypocrite side inside them will come out in the open.
This man is really crazy .....
Would love him to be our policy maker but unfortunately it's India.
The reality of India is if same kind of man born in your family you won’t take him seriously as far as I know about India
Wow!!! This is so refreshing..
Abhijit is the mirror which governments should keep in front of them, but is there any way he is leading anyone, yes by being a mirror and showing what is working and what is not
What do you think of the latest announcement on reforming the education system.
This should have been live
Abhijit is brutally honest 🙏🙏🙏
Awesome! ppl were demanding gold and u have brought diamond for them😅 grt security analyst,Impressive n articulate #anandRanga
He brings various people intellectuals from different spectrum dont tell him to bring only rightwing people give him time he will bring all intellectuals from different spectrum
Idiot! Where did I tell him to bring people from rw only???fyi I've listened more leftists than other side in my life...Kuch bhi matlab? Do u think abhijeet or anand is rw?😆 Sorry bro u r a greenhorn, too naive n ignorant.... Don't apply western concept of wings in India,not going in depth but they aren't simply applicable here...
This is gold.
Liked the video segmentation. Gives us an option to choose what we want to listen.
P.V. NARSIMHA RAO IMPLEMENTED THE DR. SWAMY'S ECONOMIC POLICES 7 NOT DR. MOUNMOHAN SINGH.
P.V.N HAS WRITTEN THIS IN HIS AUTO-BIOGRAPHY
Abhijit is absolutely the best of us
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Hi Prakhar, everything from the beginning to the end was spot-on. Abhijit is indeed an intelligent and well-read man. However, at 50:40, and then throughout the Abhinandan Sikhri segment, there could have been a couple of strong rebuttals to Abhijit's arguments that 'we should discard both news streams because they are all biased'.
1. While he didn't like the news outlets such as NDTV, Scroll, The Wire and News Laundry because they are also ideologically driven, one can not skip the part they these news outlets do indeed show/cover much important daily news across the country (non-opinionated) in comparison to RepublicTV, ZeeNews and others. For years I have observed these left-wing outlets covers a lot more of our current problems like unemployment, natural crisis (2018 in Kerala, 2020 Bengal, Assam), water crisis, and most of the average Indian concerns, much more clearly and in their prime-time/daily news than the right-wing does. I don't think the right and left is ideologically driven to the same degree and that is extremely "important". It's like saying FOX and Economist/MSNBC/NYT are all BS because they all ideologically driven. 'Right' in India, I feel has gone too far in serving its interests, and its basically discounting the left just because they also publish opiniated pieces.
2. Now, this is very specific to NDTV. I feel NDTV has a perenial anti-government bias not particularly a left or socialist one or even if they did have a socialist bias, they are very very committed to it, which actually makes them more trustworthy because they are not connected to any person or institution but to a clear ideology of serving common people. Why I say this, If you go back in years of 2012-2014, NDTV was one of the foremost critics of Congress Govt and they also supported many ideas/politicians from the BJP and AAP. (Lokpal, RTI, anti-corrpution, anti-dynasty). They also continued that in the past in Vajpayee years and congress-I (I just don't have the confidence in the statement because I was too young to observe).
I feel if you can somehow arrange to have Abhijit and Abhinandan together, that would an extremely amazing podcast. Both are decent human and quite knowledgeable in their own field. I would pay for that stuff. Take care!
Do you also think that the tools they both used for propaganda are also very different ? I mean, there are many time when I noticed the channels like Republic tv giving space to clear cut fake news ( some footage wrongly associated to ongoing context ), But it's not so common in other spectrum. I mean if your narrative is equally noble then why your means are not.
Other thing, lack of communication is an another thing. I have rarely seen arnab on any public platform where he can be questioned.
@@shubhamsapra2259 Narratives of both the spectrum of news-outlets is not inherently "noble" it's the belief system that makes them different. Left or left-associated news outlets want to promote peace and harmony within communities and being a Hindu-majority country they are more protective of minorities and that's why they try their best to show the minorities in good light, which is again a compromise, but to some extent understandable. That's why they under-report crimes done by minorities and push back severely on the crimes of majority i.e. Hindu-right. But what Republic/Zee news does is to completely hide the truth. People are dying in floods, there is mass unemployment, but they are doing debates of nepotism, ram mandir, Pakistan ki barbadi, corona-jihad - topics which hold really less to no-relevance to the general public. It's like the Stalin-Moaist-Kim-Jong equivalent of right-wing. Hide any news that can summon public outrage. Its ironical that Abhijit referred to the BJP as Bharatiya communist party because a lot of their supporters-base/methods and power holding tactics are reminiscent of the early years of Communism and even that CPM.
And regarding choosing between two streams of news outlets, if both are, let's say not noble, it's always better to choose the one which is the lesser evil.
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Regarding your point 1, don't you think the left outlets showcase the new you mentioned because the current government is centre right? Don't you think that, maybe, republic (at the very least) would do the same when, let's say, congress or someone else comes to power? Whatsay?
@@rohanmirza3477 No I don't think the left outlets have somehow changed after 2014. Many in fact as I said NDTV, NewsLaundry, were hard critics of Congress government and did voice many BJP concerns. See the thing is, if you want to validate my viewpoints, just look for NDTV news reporting during 2012-2014 times, you'll know what I am saying. They reported major economic failures of congress govt., scams, etc. And that is why I think they have an inherent ideological bias and are not tied to any political party, which makes them more reliable than their right-wing counterparts. While, the likes of ZeeNews, republic are literally serving the interests of one party and may I dare say, a few people in the top positions, which is extremely dangerous and always remain a threat to democracy. And I can definitely say that if congress indeed comes to power, channels like NDTV and other left-wing outlets would be their foremost critics.
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Wow this is gonna be epic
24:00 Abhijit you broke my heart saying all those things about Gujjus :D...btw, great video!
Excellent .
27:47 About federalism question, maybe let's think about more why federalism at state level will not do much good (maybe more bad) Many of our states are themselves of the size of countries so similar problems persist (and there are more arguments, like language based states boundaries which only increased the divide in India, etc etc). But how about more federalism wrt chartered cities...
So maybe a question for some next guest to whom it suits, what if we do away with states and directly empower districts. Forget constitution for now, just a hypothetical.
Absolutely fun to hear this conversation. But I beg to differ from what Mr Mitra said entirely. I believe we need to have a holistic view of Modi's work. Socialist yes, but steps are being taken to stimulate growth through privatization of assets.
The media industry is changing, before mass media people got their news from each other, then when radio and TV came they were fed with propaganda, now with social media and conversations like this we're going back to that phase where we get info from different sources. Now we're able to filter the bullshit and listen to conversations like this to make ourselves clear about issues and current affairs.
No NewsLaundry , Scroll , Times Now or Republic were harmed in this video .
@PG Radio : What particular Newlaundry interview were you talking about? 55:41
I understand Abjihit my dad used to say I was "Brutaly Honest" that I did not have to lie "just use a filter"
Abhijit should look at chronology research by the likes of Nilesh Oak. Going by Romila Thapar's dating of Rig Veda is strange for someone who hates third raters and mediocrity.
I may be wrong, but Abhijit meant it in a sarcastic manner, I guess?
I dont agree with Abhijit . He criticize GST . Before GST , It was easy to send the goods to UK then to state UP from Maharashtra . In terms of Infrastructure BJP has done much more better than INC . BJP is coming with a new education policy in next 10 days , where ISRO ex Chairman, IIT professors and great minds are involved . Its a complete 180 degree shift.
Also you cant expect magic in 6 years as compare to what Congress screwed in 70 years .Removed article 370 from Kashmir . China enjoyed the fruits of education after 2 decades. Yes Abhijeet is definitely good in Defence but i cant take his advice in other subjects.
Abhijit repeatedly saying "la di da di da" is so irritating. Its not his fault though, the third class acts by our governments obviously frustrated him up.
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Please bring shaam sharma
Abhijit is also a member of the LGBTQ community 🌈
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Kalla panni nee evidem vanno?
adithya suresh so what?
@@rbk9915 what do you mean by so what. It's an information about him.
@@rohansrikumar6696 lol pinnala!!
prakhar bhai op work 🤎
30:25 I like the education issues that you discussed but what is the solution?
Could you have a read at the New Education Policy that was announced after your chat & invite Abhijit again to share his views too. You guys mentioned education so it would be quite an interesting follow-up to this amazing talk.
Prakhar's old content is gold
Abhijit should write a book
Sir first with due respect, I honestly feel that your channel is one of the most underrated channels, your subtitles have spelling mistakes and flaws
M from dps rkp!
i really like how abhijit overtake central oblivious voter like this guy on opposition in the opinion on journalism
49:27 Abrahamisation of hindutva
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You talk 100 percent correct but your thought should reach among all the people's it should not be limited
And compare this podcast with madrasa RUclipsr Dhruv 😂
Hey can we get some clarity on how Ravish Kumar reports because his prime time news doesn't involve debates or the core NDTV model at 1:00:55
The fact is every individual thinks about him the way you think about you and that is the trouble in the world.
Can anyone suggest some good books to understand the true narratives of India?
I am surprised the host is not aware of Narasimha Rao's contribution to the nation's growth!!!!!!🤔😮
Maybe the host is not aware that burkha dutt snuggled her cell phone while covering kargil war due to which many of our soldiers got martyred.
*smuggled
Abhijit is addictive.
His voice reminds me of Karan Johar & Deepak Kalal 😂
Except that he is monumentally more intelligent than them, of course.
So?
Education Reform...
19:43 wealth is good unless not stolen from the poor...
Your volume is lower than Abhijeet's. Had to keep adjusting the volume throughout.
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The challenge in India is of centre state alignment on any matter. Ideas are opposed bcos politics of parties calls for it. That's why the preoccupation of the centre in having its party govern the state's too. As a result explosive growth has deluded India all the time except when IT and outsourcing seized global imagination in 2000s. Even there , it was inspite of and not bcos of UPA govt.
The second challenge is the enormous power wielded by bureaucrats who are not accountable to anyone and are used to power as a source of self aggrandisement rather than as service to nation. It is funny that these two classes , politician and bureaucracy blame each other.
The third challenge is the falling apart of the false social and national narrative peddled by nehruvian vision of India, faced with the onslaught of factual information enabled by internet and the social media. The people expectation now goes beyond mere livelihood matters to cultura identity and the need for truth and reconciliation. It also has called the bluff of the elitist intelligentsia and in a sense is seeking to democratise soft power.
The fourth challenge is the disruption caused by the elite together with a decimated congress by virtue of the eco system traditionally dominated by them, only bcos they're unable to digest that a government in India could ever rise above the divide and rule policy and pursue development and safeguarding of national integrity. Lest they get consigned to dust bin of history, this lobby is trying to project the present regime as dividing the society by spreading deliberate falsehood and fear mongering.
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hey thanx for explaining Marxism in a nut-shell
Namaste
1:04:19 abhijit is extremely anglicized and americanized
How can there be a positive manifestation of Hindutatva?
Have you read Savarkar. A Marxist like me hated him until.I read him
You spelt the key word wrong…
If you are not in left wing then you had your common Sense working and you are intellectual. Understanding to the reality nearest picture is here.if you don't like, give me up forever.
Sorry it's to my friends
This is gonna be epic shit!!!
Cool
Anand Ranganathan!!
Bring Abhijit more and Dhruv less .
India has no dearth of analysts. The problems of development are hamstrung by an entrenched bureaucracy and political opportunism. Basic needs versus catching up with the industrialized nations is non-starter. The state has to concentrate on creating an enabling environment that will help Indian society to realize it;s potential.
Is this old interview?
prakhar bhaiya You should make an podcast about nihlism and existential crisis
If all of us and even if the universe is going to sleep forever one day than
What's the point of doing, developing or achieving anything in our life
Because-
THIS MOMENT
My views matches with abhijit👀
Abhijeet mentions " third ratedness " as though his definition or standard is the benchmark. Is there an international accepted marker for "third ratedness "?
I am really not able to wrap my head around a single GST slab. Abhijeet wants his BMW taxed at the same level as a tiger biscuit ?
Everyone weighs this in reference to something... So he is rating it as third class which is right according to him... Tum apna kaam kro use apna krne do
Get Anand Ranganathan please
NDTV has approx 1% of India media market
*Dar ka mhaool* hai xD.
C'mon now it's time you tell us about that intro track!
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yaar ye anchor kisi hero jaisa lag rha.
He is factually wrong at @11:00, the first Rashidun Calliphate was a democratic state where people in now Egypt, Israel and adjoining territories previously ruled by Byzantine were allowed to follow their religion and powers were given to local subordinates. Also, these areas were exempted of heavy taxes. Something similar happened in South East Asia. Don't just nod your head at everything.
5:02 - Glitch in the matrix. Abhijit mutates.
actually bmw and potatoes r not taxed equally in any country wrth talking abt :)
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