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#57 Abhijit Iyer Mitra on Indian Bureaucracy, Political Correctness, and Navy SEALs
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- Опубликовано: 15 авг 2024
- Abhijit Iyer-Mitra is an anomaly. He terrorizes the left, scandalizes the right, and has zero regard for political correctness. This is why he's the perfect podcast guest. He is hailed on Twitter as the Archbitchess of Mylapore but holds a day job as a senior fellow at the Institute of Peace and Conflict Studies. When he's not jabbing at Rana Ayyub's brand of journalism, Abhijit publishes incisive articles on defence and foreign policy.
In this two-hour conversation, among many things, Abhijit and I discussed:
► How the new Lutyen's Delhi resident is rich but not classy
► Why India's elite forces will never be celebrated like Navy SEALs
► Why Indian bureaucrats remain incompetent
► How Western reporting on India is overrun by activists and not experts
► Why India isn't a homophobic country
Timestamps
0:00 - start
1:00 - Khushwant Singh books
6:44 - 1991 economic liberation
13:50 - Lutyen's Delhi families
15:58 - Mediocrity in India's civil services
18:58 - Abhijit's social circles
23:20 - Central myth of two different Indias
34:32 - The problems of the Indian Left
50:34 - Opportunity to become a personal brand
1:01:31 - Personal boundaries in relationships
1:07:39 - Being born to a communist dad and capitalist mom
1:09:10 - The benefits of having friends across the world
1:11:03 - Growing up in different countries shaped Abhijit's worldview
1:18:18 - Yogi Adityanath is being canceled?!
1:20:40 - Abhijit's first foray into casteism in India
1:24:24 - Freedom of speech in India
1:28:39 - Why India represses its sexuality
1:31:16 - India isn't a homophobic
1:38:00 - Abhijit's take on sexual freedoms
1:42:42 - Kamala Markandeya
1:46:48 - Matrilineal subcultures in India
1:50:12 - Abhijit's Twitter
1:52:08 - Abhijit was addicted to the opera
1:54:23 - Mirzapur and Gangs of Wasseypur
You can follow Abhijit on:
Twitter: / iyervval
Instagram: / abhijitiyermitra
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The Vinamre Kasanaa Show is a podcast made for the modern Indian millennial. Featuring unabashed conversations with multidisciplinary experts, eccentric visionaries, and culturalists alike, the host Vinamre Kasanaa, dissects culture, religion, media, art, science, technology, and politics - all in an attempt to map India of a million identities. Vinamre Kasanaa is a 23-year-old creative with the curiosity of a 5-year-old. A recent grad of Boston University, he justifies his expensive advertising degree by creating original Hindi swear words.
Abhijit full power opening a conversation with land with a gujjar. Love it.
Bhai aliens ke upar pravachan do shwetabh se sath
Prakhar bhai Indic wing k channel pe
Prakhar Bhai Indic wing pe upar ek pravachan shwetabh Bhai aur rusty bhaiya ke Saath?
@@tejas8211 bhai dono k beech ab ladai hogai
#saveshwetabhgangwar
That ghonchu remark is painfully funny and true at the same time. Whatever little interactions i had with district level government officials are flashing back in my memory. Forest officers who knew nothing about forest, civil administrators who had no idea of civic/community problems. Etc etc.
Har shaakh par ullu baithe hain, anjame gulista kya hoga.
Yes!!!!!!!
The amount of podcasts Abhijit is doing recently he may consider to be recognized as the "ear" Mitra
Clever
And still not repeatative or boring
This is gold. I think Abhijeet just decided ...offscript matalb offscript!
Man coming from the left and getting to know the problems from a well ..... " Matured /Rational /Thought Provoking " person is quite the experience.
Gora.....twat. god.
Abhijeet is George Carlin of International Realtions.(Asia Branch).
The sad part is Abhijit has equally strong opinions about things he knows about and things he hasn't thought through.
And it is interesting how he chooses to be so for free speech and lowers his standards against acceptable homophobia. Very interesting talk tho, good job Vinamre
@Varad anyone who watches one of these creators watches all of them 😂
@@smthsmthsmths he is himself a homosexual so his opinion about homosexuality or homophobia isn't wrong
He actually knows what he is talking..
@@rudrajeet814 he has a thick skin, you can't expect that for everyone else
@@smthsmthsmths thick skin vs shameless impostor. the latter is more likely.
I like Abhijeets sincerity and Honesty in his opinions.
Absolutely enjoyed Abhijit speaking his mind in his own style ....he is the best in what he does .....
Abhijit for 2 hrs , what a treat
I consider Abhijit the best teacher I ever had. His way of breaking down topics to the first principles is such a simple but effective way of teaching, that we seldom see in our society. Always looking forward to learn more from him.
Abhijit saying, “If I like people, I would invite them home and Cook myself and not let maid cook for them” tells a lot about Abhijit.
👏
40 minutes into the podcast and this is the best ever that I have heard from Abhijit "Ear" Mitra. Great going Vinamre!!!
Dude the whole convo was too good
Abhijit "La di da di da" lyer Mitra.
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Abhijit cannot fail to surprise you with his vast knowledge and what knowledge....my my. Great to hear him as always, love to meet him if only once.
Most of the world doesn't get mineral water and sarcasm.😂
Sir, plse do a full fledged 2 hours 2 videos like this on Indian economy and way to go forward and on agriculture in India, farm laws, protests for it and way forward to enhance agriculture. Thanks in advance.
Will consider it
@@thevinamrekasanaashow and only get Iyer Mitra, nobody is as open and frank about such topics
Abhijit is by far the most interesting of the people who are speaking on video podcasts. The fact that he is both adorably snobbish as well as shorn of all pretences when he speaks his mind regarding an issue or people is a potent mix. The wisdom comes from sheer intellect as well as in intuitively inquisitive mind. This is a person who deserves a really large audience.
"Agar woh chaval de rahaa hai, to tum basmati do" ―A I Mitra, 2020
45:53
@Varad Return to Quora.
Such a simple solution, should we happen to give it enough thought.
Man! Thank you so much for such an enriching conversation. Matching upto Abhijeet's knowledge is not easy and you did that seamlessly!
45:53 Its actually an important lesson for our community. We just keep building concrete temples. Instead of charities, educational institutions and hospitals!
I'm surprised this video hasn't offended many people btw abhijeet is talking the truth
It has
and how exactly do you know that he is speaking truth
@@SK-uw7kq You would have to watch the video to understand the logic in his arguments.
I always search abhijit iyer mitra to see if there's any video uploaded....# respect dada
this is the best 2 hours I spent. the discourse around "what , why and how of India" in a sophisticated way , is missing from online and mainstream. Good shit!
Abhijit’s love for the French is so strong and evident that if Rafales weren’t made in France, I am sure he would not have even care to defend the deal!😂
Vive La France 🇫🇷 😁
🙂
Qui!
@@nomanostar982 🙂
Intelligent,brutally honest & extremely clever along with being equipped with a flair for quality wit & humor, Abhijit is able to explain the core & crux of any cultural, political & security issue with finesse 👍 🙏 keep up the good work 🙏🙏🙏🙂
Every time I listen Abhijeet it it so wonderful so amazing I learnt a lot of things for him about Indian bureaucracy politics and so much cultural and social behaviour I can't thank you enough
Man..the Articulation. I am just blown away. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
So much knowledge imparted every time we listen to Abhijit. Looking forward for some interesting books from you.
I found 6 great channels this year dur AIM doing podcasts there, this is the 7th
try this: Nehruvian Land Reforms Vs Sanatana Model of Land Administration: Advocate Devendra Sharma & Advocate Prashant Singh ruclips.net/video/2_JVibf3kcU/видео.html
@@abhishekdasgupta2456 thanks
Can you please list them? I found some of them and absolutely loved all of them......does AIM have his own channel?
Abhijit do continue this .....and do not change the way you do what you do....so keep it up.
this channel is 100 times better than beer biceps, host is much smarter ,ask good question and waits for guest to reply. Kudos
Great talk.Real and unapologetic 👏👏👏
Modi ought to have Abhijit as one of his advisers. PM is surrounded by crap.
LoL
Modi doesn't like dissent
This is gold. Especially the property inheritance system in Bengal part was mind blowing
Set up schools, colleges for education of Hindus. That's where the missionaries start. Then get maximum hot spot and decision making levels in all classes and types of jobs. That's what missionaries do. Now over a period of time Government, State and major private organisations and companies further their missionaries work. This starts from rural areas, hamlets, villages, panchayat, municipalities and municipal elections gaining political affiliations and power. Right from kindergarten to you cannot imagine what the missionaries have penetrated every aspect of life. Hopefully this Government should do something to put an end to this. Could you debate this.
bro keep these podcasts coming... u are doing a great job
Thoroughly enjoyed the talk, the way you two eased into diff' topics was smooth, but more importantly educational.
I can't stress enough the importance of travelling & conversing with people from other cultures & way of life, and Abhijit's knowledge & perspective are a testimony to the importance of interacting with the global community from varied backgrounds. If you're young & planning to study abroad, I'd definitely recommend it, you'd not be the same person, hopefully for the better.
3:00 cliques in delhi
10:40 mastery of charm
11:30 trained refinement, james bond archetype, extracting info
16:50 defence procurement policy- trying to solve a human problem by documentation
18:45 kind of observations that lead to great social commentary
21:45 learning new facts, ways of contextualising things
23:25 faye d souza saying smartly, gets anthropological angle
vs sociology 24:30
1st world standards 25:50
value addition/person 28:20
"leapfrogging" 28:50
protest=rioting for PIC 29:45
"heretics", west going back to medieval 31:05
strong state manufacturing 31:20
38:00 problem with hindi- embedded hierarchy linked to society being flat
43:50 right problems
australian, british 45:00
1:11:00 other country learnings
1:24:15 indians being witty, not funny
1:28:00 sexual repression in india
charm, refinement - how to learn?
(meta) the articulation of the problem
Thanks for the fantastic timestamps bro! Very helpful
And btw I think the clique part starts at 2:42.
Abhijit's takes are very helpful actually. Thanks.
Personally, the single most important concern about India that preoccupies my mind is full blown all encompassing inclusive industrialisation. That's the key to where we end up with this demographics 50 years from now....
I am big fan of great Mr.Mitra. Your analysis is always superb. I salute u Sir.
The breadth of knowledge AIM has is utterly compelling. Reminds me of Christopher Hitchens in many ways.
Reservation is the main problem as abhijeet was explaining chuthiyas in government jobs
You are 100% correct. At present Corruption is increasing leaps and bounds
You should do this more frequently. It was pleasure listening you both.
Abhijit always on point,he tell truth to india in way they understand
15:05 i haven’t seen abhijeet this angry on camera man
Thanks a lot ...
Secretaries in India are appointed to just put their sign on gazette ..... majority of them....
Great conversation!
9:45 abhijeet sir remembering his aunt
First problem is we have 50% are from reserved category candidates get IAS even in AIR 430 what can we expect from them
I think Japan is what india would have looked like if we had not suffered sexual suffering and experienced sexual freedom.
Sexual suffering?
Indian rupee was the currency of some part / much of the middle east. I didnt know that...
How many hours a day do u read?
And i thought i was well read !!
U've earned yourself another fan !!
Thank God for your mother Abhijit, we have you on our side.
Do a long one on defense procurement.
The most intriguing thing about Mirzapur to me is how come a tyagi born in Meerut became a Don in Sivan where you cant find even a T of tyagi
Wonder if Abhijit has visited the Administration Academy ,Mussoorie. Caste based politics for electing a Mess Committee President.And the poison that the "depressed ones" spew. There is no question of teaching etiquette,culture,anything.Has become much worse since the 1980s.
Please expand and tell more.may be link of the incidences?? I would be grateful
Language was spot on ! Liked it.
On the pronouns thing, it's okay if you find it amusing when you're misgendered.
But if someone else doesn't, why are they discarded placenta ? 👀
I wanted to make comments about many things but then I thought , it doesn't matter, but this particular part from vid seemed like a Twitter reply from a troll.
It is fine to not appreciate it or interpret it as humour, but it is not fine to do what they are doing in the West, certainly in Canada; curbing such actions through legislation. This contributed a great deal to Jordan Peterson's popularity, for he had opposed one such legislation.
This has to be one of the best podcasts in history of Indian youtube, and just can't believe I am watching it for free. The amount of details that Ganju gives about the inner workings of the bureaucracy and all is just fantastic!
Keep going Vinamre 🇮🇳
1:43:06 both left and right needs to hear this
Absolutely love Abhijit .he just nails it
Daily i listen to abhijeet whereever he is,
whenever I search AIM your video comes second. IDK why youtube still promoting these videos at 2nd spot. even though there are other channels with more vids and subs. you did something with this video that others didn't and the YT algorithm liked it.
38:55 T/V split is the term
Can’t find this on spotify man please upload
I agree with him on all points
1:46:30 that's super interesting... I wonder how many such social restraints are present in other parts of India.
Thank you for this podcast. It was great.
Glad
I am coming here again and again to hear Abhijit Cursing 😂
Timestamp: 15:03
my god... this man is amazing
AIM turning Crass for first time on YT
GREAT CONVERSATION
25:31 - Abhijit in his true original form.. best...
He's the best speaker
Classic classic Abhijit
Can you call abhijit for another session just to discuss this whole 'WOKE' hypocrisy where he can gives examples of the social, cultural and everyday results of wokism for example the use of pronouns.
Best Abhijit Iyer interview. Never thought he was dumb enough to reveal his real self the way he did
India mei abhi consulting ka bada space nhi hei compared to USA... aur india mei motivation wala market has been over crowded and has genuine talent already....
armed forces wale try to start their businesses or live off their pensions....
15:05 to 15:50 - Reality of Indian Bureaucracy in short
AIM accept respect from a admirer and follower from Pakistan.
He as a indian doesn't really like your country man.
Sanatana dharma had varna system and kshatriya is not caste but its a group, at previous time u would be identified by ur work so then u would be added to that particular varna ( group )
bring Kushal Mehra too once.
Same here when I stepped outside of Chennai and people asked for my caste
15:07 minutes to 15:36 minutes 😂😂😂😂😂
Thanks for this Podcast Vinamra Bhai. This was so much of information and my head is still spinning. But anyway it was wonderful to listen to AIM and you together. Har Har Mahadev 🙏
1:17:58 He's talking about Swarajya readers.
@Nilanjana Chowdhury The Ugra Narasimha Guy . I know .
Actually friend I think you haven't read enough .
OMG @ 14:30 to 15:30. Perfectly summarized.
This was earlier said by Rahul chimanbhai Mehta from right to recall group can you call him also
Wow he knows german, as a german speaking Indian i m impressed 😅
La di da di da.. 2020 sentence/word of year
Thoroughly enjoyed the two hour.very informative and insightful.
Finishing Schools as exist for generations in Switezland
Also Kuwait had Indian currency .
I want a book by Abhijeet babu named The cinderallu story.... Thoda Umm,,, Zyada Umm.....😁😁
14:48 😆😆😆😂😂
Best part of the video is Abhijit ji giving gali
How TF does this channel has less than 5K subs
Because the public is used to short duration of content. Anyways I find it gold. Wow you were here 8 months ago.
Abhijit is a dear friend of mine
Abhijits One Liners like Ladi dadi da.
Abhijit goes off on the babus 15:00
" Bc saale chutiya hai tu" , he went from a south Delhi socialite to an east jamnapar wala in a matter of seconds. True delhihite 😂😂.
In MH also, the famous deities are the Goddesses and women could inherit property in some cases, yet society is highly patriarchal. Don't know how and why !
Ganpati leads. In Bengal Durga leads
@@RAIRADIO Multiple deities lead in MH. Ganapati is ONE of them.
@@RAIRADIO tulja Pur Bhavani
This is one of the finest conversation I’ve heard. Thanks Abhijit and Vinamre🙏🏻