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North Carolinian here; I love your show Phil, but are you going to note, as many comments are saying, that Krispy Kreme was bought by JAB, and was not actually founded on any kind of slave labor or Nazi affiliation?
I'd commit mass genocide for a Krispy Kreme right about now.
Galiant Xiock i doubt it. his thumbnail even says “krispy kreme’s dark past”. stinks of intentional clickbait.
#clickbait
Philip DeFranco this video completely leaves out Beyer Drugs. The reason why some of the OTC drugs like their aspirin and Midol work is because they did extensive human trials. I don’t like the clickbait title either
So the Krispy Kreme Klub wasn’t an accident...
Oh snap
SHHHHIIIITTT
Sheeeeeeeet
Oml just googled it and that actually happened “KKK wednesdays” I’m laughing and also horrified
ㅇㅁㅇ
As someone from Jewish decent I hold no anger towards these companies. We don't get to pick our families.
We can pick our friends but not our family.
i agree and if we hold people accountable for the crimes of their parents and grandparents before they were born and punish them for that, we are basically using north korean law lol. its super dumb. all of us exist today cus our ancestors killed or fought etc, empires spread, wars fought. how far back are we meant to dig into everyones ancestry and demand they give someone who had zero idea about it a bunch of money to say sorry for something dead people did? on the other hand if it makes people feel better about themselves to do so that sgreat but to publicize it seems theyr doing it for selfish "im woke" business reasons.
Not to mention that Rymond didn't even buy Krispy Kreme till 2016
Yeah dude.. Me too. I live in Pittsburgh Jewish neighborhood (Squirrel Hill) and pretty much everyone I grew up with drives Volkswagen, BMW.. They used IBM computers(back in the day)... Plus many other products that at one time supported Germany or even the Nazis during ww2. The past had its faults. But I feel as long as antisemitic dealings are acknowledged and moved away from today.. I say let bygones be bygones.
@ Many do though. My little brother was stabbed because he was Mongolian in Bulgaria *in his college dorm.*
Krispy Kreme ITSELF wasn't associated with any of this... the owners (JAB) who purchased the company in 2016 are the focus of the video. If the title said "How Peets Coffee Owners Exposed Their Own Dark Past," it doesn't take away the fact Peets was founded in Berkeley, CA and not associated with Nazis.
I don’t think Phil was every trying to imply Krispy Kreme was involved with this. All he talks about this whole video is the owners, not the founding of Krispy Kreme or any of that. He’s not saying Krispy Kreme should be condemned, he’s showing these people still hold high statuses today.
@@ImBirk So why not 'Panera owners exposed their own dark past' why Krispy Kreme? Why not the name of the company instead?
@F So that more people will know who he's talking about.
ijfharvey you dont make sense.
@@inter5123 How?
*_To be fair, it should be noted Krispy Kreme was founded in North Carolina in 1937 and never used slave labor. It's not like any of this happened at the restaurant itself._*
Ranger for Jesus your point?
That Girl Wearing Glasses I think it’s pretty clear what Ranger’s point is..Don’t confuse a family business with the company that purchased it.
I think you're confused
@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 praise
Ranger for Jesus Thank you.
Me, a jew hears about Krispy Kreme’s past:
Oh my god that is awful!
*opens up new box of krispy kreme doughnuts*
K
I deadass drove 2 hours to the only Krispy kreme donuts in the area💀💀
@@TheGoodContent37 Krispy kreme Klubs.
That's quite simply the most real, most relatable message i have seen in an age! So human - brilliant ☺
‘Hate the artist, not the art’
Love the doughnuts, not the maker
Idk
Sounded better in my head
The title should be changed. It was not the founder of Krispy Kreme that was a supporter of Nazi’s. Vernon Rudolph was a family friend and was a loving kind man. Jab bought out Krispy Kreme in 2016 years after Vernon passed. Jab had the ties to the Nazi party.
I know you’re all about stopping the spread of misinformation and I believe that needs to start with you. If people don’t look into or know the history behind Krispy Kreme you could completely tarnish the name of those who were not involved in the hatred.
too late...unfortunately the damage has been done
916-SAC-TOWN so sad.
The title says owner, not founder. It's your fault for misreading.
It still makes no sense to put this on KK. JAB owns other companies yet KK takes the burden anyway.
@@wizardif He's not blaming KK, he's talking about their owners.
I don't think thy should feel responsible. They are independent persons who have no control over the past. Now, if they want to try to make a positive impact in the world more power to them, but I don't think it should be done out of an obligation to `restore honor to their family name`.
People are people and, while genetics and family life have a big impact on how someone turns out, they can be significantly different than their family. For better or for worse.
Will Huizenga I don't think it is mostly "restore honor to their family name". The four Reimann children own around $3.8 billion in JAB shares. They now know a portion of this wealth was due to slave/forced labor. They did not have to go public with this information. Considering all four were adopted, I think it is more moral/publicity thing than family honor thing.
The worst thing they did was to force Krispy Kreme to change his name to Froggy Fresh.
Mr Jones and this won’t be forgotten anytime soon.
Truth be told.
And they won't ever tell you, but they hate to see you make it
And as soon as you get something for yourself they wanna take it
Well go on, you can have it, I'll look away while you grab it
Boy I don't need no stacks and I don't need no baller status
Ain't no power in the dollar, but the power's in the people
Cause our wallets ain't the same don't mean we ain't created equal
I don't need for you to clap, I don't need for you to cheer
I just hope that when I speak that there's somebody there to hear
YES!
He was the baddest... Goodnight sweet prince
They didn't *expose* their dark past, they *discovered* it. Big difference.
They did both they discovered it and then voluntarily shared/exposed it to the public.
@@nathanthom8176 can you explain the difference in ur view? I'm just genuinely asking, this is not an attack in anyway.
@@Ladygothii12 I think he means they had the choice after they discoverd what had happend to "expose" it or not, though i would personally say release it
@@Ladygothii12
To expose = to openly show something to the world
To discover: find something you didn't know before.
To put it in this context: Krispy Kreme's descendents discovered that their family had deeper Nazi ties than they thought. Instead of keeping this secret in the family, the chose to announce the truth to the world (aka expose the secret).
The Jeddite awesome profile picture! 👏 😸
I normally love everything about these videos, however on this one the title comes off as misleading and clickbait, the video itself was very interesting, but that title just undermines it's overall quality, whoever choose the title really dropped the ball
How?
The title is pretty accurate. Which negates both misleading and click bait accusations.
Krispy Kreme's was bought and owned by a parent company, the parent company had ties to the Nazis, but that's not a direct connection like the title makes it seem.
It literally says Krispy Kreme's OWNER in the title.
>do deep dive into family history
>confirm nazi ties
>public outrage
>donate advertising budget to charity
>public rage is calmed
>public eye is still on you
>profit
sincere or not, this can be seen as an advertising campaign.
That may be true... something to think about🤔🤔
Business is still business. They won moral points.
Since when are advertising campaigns (that don't hurt anyone) something to worry about?
Kind of like the whole all gossip is good publicity ideal. Definitely was a marketing ploy on their part.
I _highly_ doubt that. German billionaires are generally _extremely_ private, to the point that there are Germans with a net worth of over 10 billion that don't even have pictures on Wikipedia. There is not a culture of high-profile mega-wealthy in Germany in the same way as the US, if it were a publicity stunt they wouldn't have used their own family. A more likely cynical explanation is that it is easier to do damage control when you dig up your own past and release that information yourself, as opposed to somebody else doing it (although, really, I doubt this information would've been front-page news anyway.)
Why did he not threaten me with violence, I feel an unbalance in the force as if 6,393,912 Beautiful bastards all cried out at once
And were _not_ suddenly silenced with a throat punch....
Also, the Force is a proper noun!
You're very funny...
You win the comments today!
You're a gem. I appreciate you
Wow, I am not even mad at this family. They had a choice to hide the past and "just don't talk about grandpa" or to publish it for the world and take responsibility and they took responsibility, even though they aren't directly responsible. I commend them for it. Thanks for reporting this.
Most likely did it to get press for the company. They'll make the donation back on the book. Paying for your ancestors actions is ridicolous.
@C S You're a strong believer of 'Sins of the father' shit, right?
Yeah.
@@ElemXCR nah the apple hasn't fallen that far from the tree, they're still scumbag billionaires that profit from the exploitation of others.
"How Krispy Kreme's Current Owners Exposed Their Own Dark Past & More...." Perhaps would hurt less feelings.
The title is fine. People need to learn the difference between owner and founder. Smh
Victor Garza and Like the Sonic movie creators, Phil should have checked his title before sending it out
Again if you don't know the difference between owner and founder that's a you problem not an us problem.
@@zero2105 this is not art. There is no discussion that "owner" and "founder" have different definitions. They have.
True. I noticed alot of bickering about it in the comments. People like to complain before being totally informed
Hey ya'll! Krispy Kreme has Nazi ties!
*Volkswagen has left the chat*
And it's still a chemical factory not sure why anyone wants to pretend otherwise.
Technically they didn't have these ties till 2016 when the current owners (the ones being talked about) bought it.
Don't forget, everyone watching national television leaves the room. Plus more.
This story relates very much to the questions being asked in the US today about reparations for slavery. And the complications are very similar, but even farther removed. There is no one alive today who either was a slave or owned slaves. Where does it end? As someone from a Christian heritage, can I collect reparations against those of Italian heritage for the persecution of the Christians by the Romans? As someone with American Indian blood, don't all those of white, European background owe me a fortune?
For the record, I have nothing against reparations in theory. But as a white person who neither owned slaves nor would have owned slaves, you need to find a way for those reparations to come from somewhere other than my tax dollars. African Americans may be owed, but they are not owed by me, thus zero of that payback should come from me. Unless you want to take it from my share of the Christian and Indian persecution money that I have coming to me.
@Nick Moore That literally has nothing to do with this comment or the video though.
This story is quite different from the whole nonsensical slave reparations idea in the US, as there are/were people involved in WW2/Nazi conflict that are/were still alive when the compensation idea was put forth.
The effects of slavery are still being felt. Many of our current American corporations became wealthy off the backs of African slaves. 500 years an entire race was treated like any other farm animal. They were denied basic human freedoms and were bred like dogs. Effects lasted far after slavery ended, racism, segregation, KKK, prison industrial complex. People became billionaires off of the work slaves did. Now descendants of slaves get to watch the slave owners relatives continue to be wealthy while we struggle and get called names for not letting it go.
DigitalPockets - wow you’re an idiot lmao
@Nick Moore better to keep one's mouth closed and appear unintelligent, than open it and remove all doubt.
seriously, how do you get to insinuating someone is a nazi for stating Amazon was not remotely an element of the original comment or video. and that's with me agreeing with the sentiment that sooner or later somethin's gotta happen there with Bezos.
... just boggling...
11pm here in New Zealand. Just a light, happy story from my man, Phil before my peaceful slumber?
Ayee, a fellow kiwi :)
Hello from the future. Its 8:30 am here
@@xBloodxFangx
Nah bud it's the night of the 8th of may here, the rest of the world follows us down here.
@@DrunkenAussie76 yupp
Love how we all get our fixes at different times UK gets deep dive around lunchtime and depending on length PDS a time from 21:30-00:30....latter accompanied by mutters of... I need to sleep but it will be here soon lol.. Hope u slept well. :)
Why is Krispy Kreme singled out in the title when Jab also owns Panera, Peete's, Keurig.... and so forth? This story has nothing to do with these brands and everything to do with the parent company.
Clickbait my child clickbait
It sounded better when they were coming up with the press release probably.
Because this is America, and Phill thinks people's reaction will be amplified if it has to do with doughnuts. He did it for the CLICKS.
Because people will better understand who he's talking about.
Maybe a better title would be "Parent Company of Popular U.S Establishments Reveal Nazi Past" or something like that.
So this is a discussion of _Sins of the Father_ then.
sins of the father affects the son's. Just Look at global warming.
This is kind of click baity. Krispy Kreme was founded in 1937 in Winston-Salem, North Carolina. This JAB company bought them in 2016.
@LᗩᑎDO LᗩᑎD I think its the influence of the company that latched onto him. Or the people writing the bits. He should have mentioned that the company itself was bought out and that the company that bought them has this in its history. I can see CNN now stating that "Krispy Kreme" founded by nazis. The news cycle is so ridiculous that were putting the onion out of business.
That’s wild. My family knew the founder. The title needs to be changed...
? The title says owner, does it not?
It feels like all the "deep dives" are just becoming clickbait stories that leave out a lot of important details or include misleading information. I love the PDS, but these morning videos are missing the mark.
Says owners, not founders... this thread needs to chill
My throat longs for the days of being punched by Phils gracious soft skin fist
THICC BOI why does that sound so dirty?
Tohru Marie i was thinking the same thing after i posted it lol
Why does "soft skin fist" bring up such disturbing imagery?
@@mikephillips8406 😂😂😂
"Hello youtube, today I'm going to eat an authentic 1940's german meal."
*Krispy Kreme donut and orange Fanta*
you might need a bayer asprin after all that sugar.
this is the first of the morning videos i've watched. It is WONDERFUL. the flow, the information, the coverage....all just exceptionally done. I'm so glad I watched this video. I'm sharing it with everyone.
You should probably give a disclaimer about the clickbait title.
Krispy Kreme hurt itself in its confusion
konfusion
[MCAIDS] N1TE lmfao
Every day I wait to see your comment my dude
Careful you are so confused you could hurt yourself
Krispy Kreme donated to charity in its Konfusion...
In no way will I pay for the sins of my father, nor do I want my children to suffer for mine.
What about if you actively benefit from the sins of your father? Not only that, but you benefit in the tune of $3.8 billion. If my family had built wealth off the backs of forced labor at the hands of the Nazi, I would absolutely feel beholden to pay for that.
I really don't, but as logical and reasonable as that statement may seem on its surface, It's incredibly naive. You may not *want* your children to suffer for mistakes you made, but in one form or another, in ways that are not invisible *they will*. Just as are form because or inspite of the actions of those who came before you.
I don't want the descendants of theses slaves and prisoners to suffering experience by their ancestors, but regardless of want, they will and are.
That and we are not just talking about single individuals, we are talking about *corporations*.
@@TonyTranWasHere shit tons of money etc was paid as reparation. the question is more like, when is it enough and you can be done with it? at one point you just roll with your eyes when things like this are brought up. some people just cant let things go.
@@ladybucket9798 Thanks for pointing that out; when will it end.
@@ladybucket9798 That's fine that a shit ton of money was paid as reparations. That's not the issue at hand. OP said that they didn't want to "pay for the sins of my father" as they so stupidly put it, which suggests they're against reparations entirely. I'm saying that it's still important.
Germany: teaches students about atrocities committed by the government
USA: writes atrocities out of the textbooks
SHE IS A WOMAN OF LOGIC, DON'T LISTEN HER
I love the morning deep dives. I listen to this, NPR's up first and NYT's The Daily to prep for my job every morning
I'm still going to eat these donuts. It's cool to know the history but ultimately the sins of the parents do not reflect the grandkids.
Only able to see this so quickly cuz I partied too much and just got home lol
Wtf it’s fucking Wednesday
Just wondering if anyone sees the irony of America holding another country accountable for using Slave/forced labor.
JS
Everyone back then was.
And now it's Republicans who are screaming about the heartige of the south. But EVERYONE HAD SLAVES then the parties sort of split on wether there should be slavery or not
@Buttered Lumps they want to keep it. And I'm saying both parties did not have an issue with slavery for a long time so lets not act like it only in the south
I’m truly enjoying the new direction of this channel
Interested as to who exactly is compensated. Must be a lot of effort going on in finding out about descendants.
Anyway, good on Krispy Kreme.
Probably the Israeli government.
Ahmed Adel i doubt that just because they have the most jews means they get the compensation
They will donate a few million to some Jewish cultural centre
I am originally from Ukraine. I remember around 15 years ago my grandfather received money compensation from Germany. Funny thing is he never was captured or forced to labor, but he was a soldier during WW2. he did not apply for anything. They found him themselves.
@@Cccchhhhhhheeeeeeeeeffffff
Jews weren't the only people in those concentration camps. While a majority, people seem to forget that other groups were also sent away.
On topic: Unless the victims' identities were unfortunately erased before the end of the war (when the Nazis were desperate to get rid of records by burning everything) it might be easy to find any surviving relatives or descendents and compensate them for the loss.
But, seeing as Krispy Kreme wants to wash their hands from this mess as fast as possible, the money will go to a random charity organization.
"Yeah let's go after a company for having a shitty past," he said this while typing from his iPhone that is manufactured at FOXXCONN
The difference is this is the present
Zyad Hq hypocrisy my friend
Nobody went after them, though. They discovered the information and put it out there themselves.
@@KayleeCee for pr
Still not going to stop eating an entire box of their donuts when I'm sad.. which is always.
Hello Team Defranco
@philpdefanco
In the off chance someone does read this, this is about an on going murder trail here in my hometown of South Carolina Bluffton/Hampton county area.
Backstory of family
The person charged with the murder is part of the Murdaugh family. They are the biggest lawyer family around, they also have heavy ties to the solicitors office. With 3 Generations working for the office.
Case
The 20 year old Paul Murdaugh who was intoxicated at the time, is being charged for murder. This is his second time being charged for murder, the first was vehicular manslaughter with alcohol being a factor. He walked away nearly untouched even though he was under 21 and drinking. Fast forward a few years and now he killed another 19 year old girl on a boat. He already seems to be getting away with the police who claim "failing to do comprehensive test to see if he was drinking", and also refusing to release any other public information. We have an extremely unfair system here of old extremely rich family's controlling nearly everything. They are trying to cover this up and hide it from local media no local news has done any actually video segment about this. I understand this isn't problem that effects the mass population, but with a mass group of people this corruption can be exposed and ended.
www.islandpacket.com/news/local/article229192899.html
Thank you for your time, keep up the awesome work Defranco 2020!!
Just some helpful advice. Your story is much much more likely to be seen if you email him directly. So many comments flood in its easy for yours to get lost. I had to scroll for a few minutes to find you and this video is like a day or two old.
You could also post on the r/DeFranco subreddit
You should also send this to Kendall Rae on youtube she does loads of crime videos and I am sure she'd love to dive into this one!
Amazing, the only country I ve heard to teach their own children about their own war crimes. Much respect to Ger.
Sooo, slow news day or what?
Disliked the video because you didn't threaten me with physical violence before the video started.
Someone give this man an award for the fastest talking human on RUclips.
"If they refuse they get sexually abused," straight up bars son, SON!
As if being forced to stand naked anywhere, let alone OUTSIDE, *isn't* sexual abuse.
I wasn't threatened... I have no obligation to like...but.. I may...
there is no way for you to prosecute a company for what it did because its that is how corporations work, if there is a son and grandson shouldn't be prosecuted for their ancestors actions anyway.
there is no reason for the company to just expose them self this way therefore I believe it is just for the guild and repentance
Cool short deep dive. Perfect for my transit commute!
That Krispy Kreme Klub thing makes so much sense now.
I am literally about to watch this with two Krispy Kreme sprinkled doughnuts sitting in front of me. Pray for me.
Kaylee Clary Those donuts can’t live with the shame. Put them out of their misery.
@@kellyalves756 nooooooooo 😂😂😂
Eat them with pride this is fake outrage
@@Dumbfoundlanka , I don't think there's really any outrage over this. Most people know that people can't control what companies have done in the past or what their ancestors have done in the past. If there's anyone mad with the Krispy Kreme of today for something that its now-long-gone owners did, then I think that person isn't all that bright.
Dumbfoundlanka And guess what? Fake outrage can be hilarious.
Crueller, crueller uber alles... ok, too far.
Wasn't threatened with a throat punch 0/10 video
I mean, discovering a horrific past is different from participating in it. By exposing themselves they've prevented someone else from doing it and by donating to appropriate charities they are making moves to about the public that they're trying to make amends.. Honestly this is one of the smarter corporate moves I've seen in a while..
I think the Reimanns should be applauded for being so forthcoming with this information. They didn't try to bury it like so many other companies would do to protect their reputation.
I feel like it’s great the companies and organizations contribute to making amends for the past but I do not believe that they should have to or be held accountable or this should be necessary. “Sins of the father fall on the son”. Still it is a good PR move and I admit I feel I would be compelled to do the same if I discovered my family legacy committed atrocities. Just makes me wonder at what point does one move on from historic guilt?
P.S.
These videos come out within seconds of my kids getting out for school so they are a great thing to listen to on the commute home. Where do I pay money for morning does 5 days a week?! Lol
I personally think that companies and organizations that have accumulated more wealth than I can even fathom do have a responsibility to make amends to those who suffered (or their descendants) in order to acquire said wealth. Parts of their lives were stolen from them, and that cannot be ignored. I'm glad to see and hear of the actions the owners are taking.
My opinion is we are not responsible for the choices of our ancestors. As dark or good as they may be. We are responsible for our own actions.
Debatable but ok
I agree, but I also think it's legitimizing those ancestors' actions by continuing to claim goods from them that you know were stolen through violence.
@@unitymomentum how? Did you directly cause the choices of your ancestors those of witch you have never came into contact with. If so I'm interested how you got time travel to work.
@@DaDandyman that's a fair argument but then again you didn't make those choices. Yes it was wrong but no employees today are being taken advantage of. Should we destroy a company that today employees many people costing lost of jobs for the actions of the past. To me thats illogical. Like I said it wasn't the choices of the current leadership, but there ancestors. Also think of history. How many things were built because of terrible acts of our ancestors. Should we destroy( or punish) it all/everyone.
Exactly no one should be blamed for the actions of someone else that's like blaming white people today because they "think" there ancestors were slave owner's no one should be blamed for actions of other's
Wow Phil did the whole video this morning. Glad I stuck around.
1:37 when they say “used and possibly abused slavery”... like is there a right way to use slavery? How does one not abuse slavery
No throat punch again today... Tis a sad day indeed.
I'll be honest, I don't care.
Racist
Me neither. It’s not still going on. 😴
@Inigo Arroyo
Given their name I think that it's pretty safe to say they are joking.
Agreed... I just don't care...
@Inigo Arroyo He's joking dude...
I applaud them for being proactive on this. It is easy to want to sweep it all under the rug and try to ignore it.
I accidentally read the title as Krispy Kreme's Dark Pasta and I'm here like
"You mean like the squids ink or something? Why is this a news?" 😂😂😂
Vic Mignogna must be covered.
That’s not a profitable enough story for Phil
you shouldnt sin the son for the sins of the father. i dont think that krispy kreme is olbigated to do anything but if they want to donate to holocaust charities then they can but they really have no obligations
I wholeheartedly agree. One it's a risky precedent to set, and B. Many of these people did nothing wrong.
WOW!!! This was awesome!
Nice work
I do not think it matters whether they are attempting to atone for their family's actions or get ahead of a potential story. Historical accuracy is paramount given the presence of Holocaust Deniers. Having large companies/families reveal internal documents which show the brutality of the Nazi Regime helps to further provide evidence of the atrocities in the 1930s/1940s.
I do not hold the family responsible for what their ancestors, who died decades ago, did during WW2. This stands for the saying that a son is not responsible for the sins of his father. However, I do believe, as a corporation, they have a responsibility to admit their fault and act accordingly via restitution/charitable work, etc. What that amounts to is not something I can attest. However, I do not think the family members, individually or together, have a responsibility to act. They did not engage in the behavior, and it seems, knew little of their family's DIRECT involvement. The only obligation the family, as private individuals, is to reveal the information regarding the company's participation in the Nazi Regime and guide the company toward recognition and atonement for the role it played decades ago.
Ohmigawd thank you for an analytical and thoughtful response!
I fully agree. Its not their business to atone for the sins of their ancestors. It wont bring back the people that were killed or died as result of their ancestors actions or comfort those who lost family members to the nazi regime but I cannot fault them for looking into their families dark past, owning it then turning it around and wanting to do something positive. the millions donated could save a lot of lives or help a lot of people in need.
Im sure there are folks in high places with more money than KK but they keep their billions gathering dust in offshore bank accounts and other tax avoidance schemes.
They didnt need to but they did and that is pretty commendable in this day and age when there is such a huge gap between the rich and less well off/poorer people.
I really hope the good will of the companies that donated money genuinely goes to good use and the people that need it rather than line the pockets of CEOs and other top level directors or celebrities that may decide to get in on it for good PR.
Remember the story about Bono from U2?? He does a lot of charity stuff but its also been discovered and made public that he takes 98% of all the money that is donated.
Greed and corruption is everywhere and runs pretty deep.
I have to agree if they really want to make a difference help the people that are still alive the people that actually lived in that time that know's what it's like have those people speak on your behalf and say if it's all good or not I mean it was your family that did it to them in the first place
Historical accuracy? Theres no historical accuracy. It's all a lie. Five families own all the stations in the US. They create the "news". All of it.
This isn't a son it's a company
What do you think happens if you're in Germany during WW2 and you own a company. An SS officer comes to your home and offers you free slave labor for the war effort and you say: Thanks but no thanks...
Think about that for a second.
Just like in "Schindler's List." If you haven't seen it, it's a *MUST SEE* movie, especially for anyone with Jewish or German ancestry, and I happen to have _both._ Probably would be best to watch something extremely happy or silly afterward. You don't want to just go straight to bed after watching "Schindler's List." Really, you don't. You'll have -scary- terrifying dreams. At least I did.
@@calichef1962 Maybe read the book?
calichef1962 I remember watching that movie when I was around 13 when it first came out and it’s literally one of a handful of movies that changed my life honestly and I’m just a Texan with hispanic descendants. But it was so horrifying and raw that I still think about certain scenes to this day.
Honestly, good for the family for them putting this out there rather than try and hide/ignore this.
I was literally in line at Krispy Kreme buying my students breakfast when I clicked on this video....
Hannah Dulin - You feed your students Krispy Kreme for breakfast?
Today they have their big state test that they’ve been preparing for all year. They deserve a treat!
Don't forget Porsche. Ferdinand Porsche was an active member of the SS, yet we still celebrate his name on luxury vehicles.
Ford was mentioned by Hitler in Mein Kampf or whatever and now I have to deal with a friend who calls every single ford car a "Nazi car" (my brother owns a Ford car)
Humans need to know atoning for the past you weren't a part of means nothing. Because time moves forward. People forgive, and these companies need to forgive their past. Forgiveness is not condoning the past, it's moving forward from hurt and healing.
This is more about the gesture and the social effects than specifically about forgiveness. This all shows a monetary (most important thing to companies) willingness to do better.
Also we all are a part of the past that makes us up, in the case of companies even if the management changes the 'company' still is very much a part of and benefiting from that past.
@@nfzeta128 thank you, I think I understand this a bit better, now.
@F First, there is the simple thing of the benefit being carried forward, don't think I should need to be talking about that. Once a benefit is had, unless all involved in it suddenly disappear or they are benefiting from it. In cases of companies its much more so, to the point that you can usually trace it becoming relevant to things like that. Because lets face it, slavery or slave labour is great for business.
See that middle part there, that is your problem, you're looking at things based on whether there is even the slightest chance it could affect you and automatically disagreeing with it based on that.
You also are looking at reparations wrong, they are mainly a peace offering when excess benefit is had on the work of others.
Its the same reason why in the EU there are laws where the original author or creator of a work can get extra compensation if a business makes an excess of profit from the license of the original creators work.
"Nobody should have to pay for the sins of their ancestors."
In an ideal world that is true, the problem is such a world doesn't exist. When wrongs are committed humans can't always let them go, especially depending on the gravity. Stuff like this are just a show of good faith to prevent a grudge from festering. When you look at terrorist for example, they're mainly people fighting on such wrongs, old or not.
They don't have to hold on to the guilt, but they don't have to hold on to all their money either .
fun fact: Ford motor company owned the factory that produced the Panzer mk 5, which was eventually destroyed by an american bombing mission. after the war Henry Ford sued the government for destruction of his factory, and was compensated handsomely.
Let’s not also forget operation paper clip, the US government using nazi rocket scientists after the war
There is a difference between using people after winning a war and supporting Nazi's. (also I wish they didn't tarnish Krispy Kreme's name, as the owners, not the company are the ones with the ties, not like any Nazi's were cooking donuts during WW2)
speedy01247 our space program was built by nazis.
jihadthat777 these were often war criminals who were given amnesty
@@seanhurley9216 Again you're referring to one person, you think that person was the only one scooped up? Are you also going to berate the Russians for doing the same thing? Why don't you tell me why even though Russians and Americans both scooped up German scientists why it is that the Russians never managed to advance their jet propulsion past the level of the 262 until the Brits essentially gave them a newer jet for free. The cold war would have been a hell of a lot shorter if the Brits hadn't kickstarted the Russians progress on jets.
be·rate
/bəˈrāt/
verb
scold or criticize (someone) angrily.
"his mother came out and berated me for raising my voice"
I didn’t berate anyone all I did was state a fact
Slavery was known in almost every ancient civilization and society including Sumer, Ancient Egypt, Ancient China, the Akkadian Empire, Assyria, Ancient India, Ancient Greece, Carolingian Europe, the Roman Empire, the Hebrew kingdoms of the ancient Levant, and the pre-Columbian civilizations of the Americas(wiki slavery). What about them ? Yes it's bad it have happened, but its still happening , it's have been done and we are going to repeat it .
"we are going to repeat it"
That is a horribly pessimistic worldview.
@@iuriepripa3171 Slavery still exists today, and it will exist tomorrow. It is not pessimistic to give a completely accurate statement.
@@bluesteel8376 Of course slavery exists today, and will exist tomorrow, but to speak of it as if its permanent, or as if it's part of the human condition, is pessimistic.
Well. I think it's better to think realistic, than live in this delusional world so many people live in. Where everything is peaceful and political correct.
you know we could end slavery, its a choice that if people were to get together and do, could be destroyed. Its not like there is some magic keeping us from stopping it, its more the lack of willingness to interfere with daily life then anything else holding people back from fully eradicating it. The down part is that we probably won't. I just hate to think about how many slaves are out there that may be within literal miles of any of us and we don't even realize it. Its something that gets to me and I know I do it along with most others, we ignore signs of distress as it scares us and we would rather assume we are wrong about it then directly confront it. Like when I see a car on the side of the road, I drive past. They could just have pulled over to grab something, or they could be in need of actual help, it is something that always bothers me when I do it, like if they are not in trouble, all I would have done is embarrass myself and nothing worse, yet I always keep driving to worried about all the what ifs to actual stop.
Wow! A govt taking responsibility for its past heinous actions. What a concept.
So, basically, my Dad's uncle helped eventually make Krispy Kreme as delicious as it is...
Phil the time lord has conquered mortal need for sleep .
Or he has learned the dark arts of paying minions to do his bidding...
So? Who cares? The current owners didn't do that stuff so why does it matter?
Current owners feeling guilt over things they didn't do. It really doesn't matter but for German people it does.
Because ...outrage culture
@@strawbeary9647 impossiburrrrrrrr
So you don't care that the creator of Rurouni Kenshin bought and owned child porn?
@@strawbeary9647 its a pr stunt.
Can't even get a free doughnut anymore when the hot light is on.
German engineering is the only explanation on how organized and how perfect the frosting is out on each donut.
Slavery in the US: am I a joke to you?
Cmon Phil, where is the threat of physical violence aimed at my throat?
It's amazing how it's a big deal that these companies once used slave labour but everyone likes to ignore all the big ass companies that still use slave labour.
I think it's absolutely stupid for people who didn't actually commit the atrocities to be held accountable or to even feel accountable. You are not your parents so why should you be punished for their stupidity?
These are the kinda deep dives I like. No slant just both sides.
Unpopular opinion time. If you weren’t directly involved than you shouldn’t be held responsible
"Krispy Kreme" has a whole new meaning
I literally had a panic attack for a split second, thinking that it was Thursday already
Phil it’s 6 am. The only reason I’m still up is because I’m still drunk. Why is this being uploaded now?
Idk what timezone hes in but in EDT its 7am. Makes sense even if he isnt in the edt tho since theres a huge popular along the east coast
John Houser exactly
Not jealous of that hang over later. 😂
On a Wednesday morning lol that's the key to winning in life ya loser
Staceyface I don’t get hangovers cause I know how to take care of myself drunk 👍🏻
Not a long video but I still don't want a throat punch
It makes me very happy that the victims are getting compensation and recognition. The companies do owe these people, their companies were built on the back of these people. But that does not mean any fault lies with the current owners and CEOs.
The problem with reparations is that both the victims and the guilty are both long gone, so you are only going to have people paying for things they never did to people who were never victimized.
How do you punish a company when the people who were part of the crime are now dead and gone? It's horrible, but I don't know that the current management should be vilified for that.
I respect KK for coming out, about this shameful, and dark part of their history. It would be very unbecoming if they chose to sweep this under the rug, like they have in the past.
Mav Hunter it’s not even there history.. JAB bought KK recently they didn’t found them
JAB bought KK in 2016 I think. It’s not KK themself, this video is kinda misleadinng
I don't eat Krispy Kreme donuts 🤷🏿♂️
Now you are a superior human. No need for real virtue anymore.
I don't think I have ever tasted a Krispy Kreme doughnut. Are they delicious?
This is indisputable: People can NOT be guilty of an action not taken by themselves.
I respect the current family members for going so out of their way to make amends.
Everyone is benefiting directly or indirectly from the horrors of the past.
Ex: iPhones and Macintosh are results of questionable work ethics of Apple running their employees into the ground. Road work using chain gangs for prisoners that may have been innocent all along.
Fast food employee abuse by managers and customers. US slave labor used to build infrastructure.
Number of medical benefits from horrible human experiments through history.
We learn things are unethical because it happened and we learn it shouldn't happen again.
Worst of all we don't realize it sipping Starbucks with our Krispy Kreme while playing Mortal Kombat on our Mac.
We stand today on the shoulders of those who suffered.
Good Day.
Moral of the story, the world was a shitty place not long ago. We should do our best to never allow it to be like that again.
@F while I agree we can't change it, and that there's no reason to shame the descendants of these people, because we all had shitty ancestors, i strongly disagree that we shouldn't bring it up. Those who forget their past are damned to repeat it and such
not everyone suffered to do things, some works have been out of hope and care, plenty of good things have come from good things as well. Don't make the past look purely black with the, its always been bad, so get over it. Using claims like its always been that way are excuses to allow continued mistreatment. We cannot change the past, but that does not mean we have to allow the past to define our futures.
don't punish the un-guilty
Adrian Blom you mean innocent
It's not punishment but reperarion
Only punish the un-innocent
I’ve seen flies in their doughnut boxes so they can’t be that good lmao
Hey Phil, love the show I watch it everyday yadayada you’re the best and of course an inspiration to us all! Question: Do you take the “new” label off the thumbnails after the videos are no longer new? Just wondering how much attention i should devote to things. Thanks bye bye!
is it even that deep, should people have to apologise for something others did years ago. theyre just doughnuts. if anyone goes back in time far enough theyre going to find a bad person in their family.
America could learn a lesson from Germany and accept their past and make amends.
I'd gladly trade massive and extensive reparations in exchange for deporting all SJWs and communists to Venezuela where they can live with like-minded people.
What part of the past have the Americans not accepted?
Would be great if this was the case for Slavery in the US
Phew..... off topic, this made my heart race when I thought it was Thursday for a minute and that I missed an exam haha