Notice when she put up the collage of pictures of all the executives that choose who makes it or not are middle aged, yt men? That tells you right there that’s how they see blk ppl, the blk american culture and blk women. They keep pushing what they think is the only thing that works from an old yt man’s perspective trying to be hip to the blk culture. Notice how BET went down the tubes the moment it started being ran by yt people? They just running our image and culture into the ground like they do everything else. And people within our community is helping them.
Every time I see anything WAP related all I can think of is that Monique “Is this who we are???” clip and you actually used it in the video 😂 I had to subscribe. Very interesting point about white artists being able to jump in and out of hypersexuality and not having that become their whole brand. She isn’t a rapper, but the only black female artist I can think of who mainstream audiences accept as overtly sexual sometimes and vulnerable other times is Beyoncé. Even then the way she expresses her sexuality fits into the “baddie” mold. It seems like the only way people will embrace a woman owning her sexuality is if she does it in a way that still titillates men. Janelle Monae has made music exploring her sexuality, but she’s never brought up in conversations about “sexual empowerment” because she centers her experience and not the male gaze. Also who was talking at 3:39? She made a great point and I would love to see the rest of her interview.
Haha! The Monique clip was PERFECT for this video! Thank you for subscribing and welcome ❤️ Beyoncé is a great example of a Black woman who is allowed to do both! Jaguar Wright was the woman talking, I do t agree with her on everything but on this topic she was spot on! If you search “Jaguar Wright + female rap” you should find the clip 😉
I LOVED this analysis! These were all things that I've been thinking about as I've gotten more interested in more hip-hop/rap music, but as a white woman from New Zealand I was wondering if I was missing some cultural context. Its tiring seeing the only criticism of the hypersexuality of female rap coming from thinly veiled racist and misogynistic takes instead of looking at how the music industry basically forces these women into these hypersexual personas in order to succeed. Thank you for introducing me to some lesser known female artists too
A couple years ago I was in a halfway house and my roommate played this song about "I grab my push !one a weapon." It made me a little sick because it was the way gross men talk about their junk. The worst men. I hated it so much. It approximates the wirse, most toxic male BS
hello ashley and how your day going and have you thought about live streaming on twitch and starting your own podcast and starting your own vlog channel on youtube and starting your own tiktok account and starting your own discord account and starting your own patreon account or onlyfans account in the future
I get the cardi b be careful vs wap but let’s be real the beat on be careful was shit and also cardi b is a Mexican.. so what do we say about saweetie? Bc icy girl had no foul, vulgar language or cussin and that’s her best song. Sometimes an artist is just shit and there was def a bigger budget for wap then there was for be careful but that just poses the question of why and it all goes back to black women ( NOT CARDI B who is a Mexican) cannot be soft and cute and make a hit they have to be nasty and vulgar just like you said. Just adding my 2 cents!
@@accountuser9382 Cardi B is afro Latino which is black. Black is not a monolith nor is it phenotypically one thing and it doesn’t only involve African American as an identity. Spanish is not a race it’s a language and a nationality/national identity. This is just facts.
THIS! Also, I feel like something that can get lost in the conversation is the complexity surrounding choice feminism. Often times women can unknowingly engage in self-objectification and say “oh acting/dressing/performing like this is just my personal preference!” but fail to consider what has INFLUENCED that preference
I'm a french student working on hypersexualization of Women in Hip-Hip, and your videos perfectly introduced me to the subject, with all the knowledge and your source-based opinion (which I totally agree with) ! Congrats, keep doing what you do ! +1 sub :)
I totally agree. I miss the days when MC lyte, queen latifia, da brat, etc…were big in the rap/hip hop scene. Female rappers today all look the same, pretty much sound the same and pretty much all promote the same things. It’s gotten boring and cookie cutter anymore. So i stopped really listening to mainstream rap/hip hop anymore, especially now when it’s hypersexuality is being mostly promoted.
@@ashleyaviolaaccountability is like kryptonite. Why so hard for y'all to take accountability for your actions? Nobody didn't put a gun before these Women's face and tell them to act slutty.
THIS!!! THANK YOU!!! everytime i try to look at what other content-creators have to say about hypersexualization of women in media it always ends on 'its their choice' kind of stance like nobody wants to actually think WHY would these women make 'choice' like that! and the discussion of women's influence on young girls also goes the same way unfortunately... i appreciate your research on the topic and as a white woman myself i also appreciate your point of view as a black woman!! thank you again for the video!!
I don’t mind the sexualization honestly it’s just the fact that it’s all they know how to do and have no actual rap skills love nicki even tho she does it she can actually rap same for Doechii and doja and more they have some sort of talent outside of that I can respect that at least. But I couldn’t respect people like Ice spice with no talent at all in rap and only know how to twerk and mess that’s how I personally see it. The problem for me isn’t really sexaulizing cause at the end of the day that’s what sells 🤷♂️but It’s the lack of talent and creativity that I’m starting to notice from rap girls.
I don't mind the sexualization, either. It's been around since the 90's. The problem is rappers like Megan Thee Stallion and Ice Spice who use it as a crutch to hide the lack of substance in their lyrics.
@@DBZAOTA482Megan is a REAL talented rapper. She’s versatile but when she talks about something else y’all don’t listen and you are the proof. Megan is a LYRICIST.
I love your commentary! You always hit the nail on the head. Times have really changed and sometimes, well oftentimes, I don't think it's been for the best. It seems as we try to move forward and progress in our society, we're actually going backwards and misogyny is still running rampant. It's frustrating.
And that's the problem with this industry and it drives me nuts. You have these talented girls writing, spitting, working working working and all of that work but they don't really get noticed until they start to sexualize their routine and their lyrics get a little more sexual and they start talking about their Kitty.. and it's ridiculous if you look at Latto's music she has been doing her damn thing writing since before the rap game, but she didn't really blow up until she grew up, got a little more sexual and then that's when the big labels started coming to call. After Riri played her B from da souf on live and she started to blow up off that song and you've seen it's still more sexual than her older stuff but honestly I don't think that's her making those decisions, these Labels want all the females to be hypersexualized and they act like you can't be successful without it. It's the men who made the bbl and boob jobs the norm. You've got girls like Flo Milli who have crazy Talent crazy bars, you ever listen to a Flo Milli song the things that she says are out of this world and again she didn't really start getting attention until it became over sexualized the outfits got skimpier and the lyrics got nastier. She has a different, skinnier body and darker skin so that's what's holding her back? It's bullshit. Gone are the days we focused on talent, when will it end
Great video! It’s so true that women of color are objectified in the public eye and that is done for a reason. I commented on your quiet luxury video about how American Indian towns, empires and kingdoms were destroyed and the people put into slavery. The rulers of those kingdoms were women. Google “emblem of America” or look at any old paintings and drawings of Americans from the 1400-1700s and you’ll see Indian queens ruling over her tribes and empires. The people who run the music industry know exactly who we are and are desperate to keep us from knowing the truth. So they hyper sexualize us to keep us in a low vibration, so we can’t elevate and be the rulers over everyone again.
They want Black women to be degraded, disrespected and only seen as sex objects in the general public, and it works, the more and more the industry pushes the vulgar and oversexualized image of bw, the more bw will be shamed and devalued.. also those women are complete sellouts! An don't care.
As the man (Gen 1:26-28) KJV, a husband (Gen 2:21-25) and a father (Gen 3:16), the minister of God (Rom 13), teacher (Eph 4) and one of the survivors who was bullied in school, bad girls say and do what bad girls say and do. There are really not any limits to the things that bad girls say and do. They do things backwards. Sing it "Adina Howard - Freak Like Me (Official Video) [Director's Uncut Version]. Backwards + Backwards will never = Forward. I grew up with them with and without their GPS ankle monitor. There are a whole lot of them. I have always been outnumbered by them. Due to my shyness, I was never comfortable being alone with any of them. Even they have their own club titled "Bad Girls Club". For some reason, the cuter they are, the badder and more aggressive they are. Some mature as time passes, others just age. I personally stayed away from all of them as much as possible, but everyone has their own cravings. Sing it "Donna Summer - Bad Girls". Sing it "Donna Summer - Hot Stuff (12" Version)". Class is dismissed.
And y’all have the AUDACITY to call Pedonika “The Queen of Rap” when she’s exactly like the other girls but older. Most of them are the same. Lil’ Kim is the true ORIGINAL Queen.
Fantastic video! I am curious if anyone has listened to Cardi's "Be Careful" song recently? I felt like the production quality of that song compared to the rest of the album was not as good to listen too. My paranoid brain got to thinking what if the song was produced poorly ( by a party outside of the artist knowledge) to make sure it didnt do well 🤔. Every other song on the album has this level of richness to the audio and seems balanced well, but the Be careful track( at least to me) felt like the background beats & Her voice were subtly fighting for dominance... its a weird thing to explain.
Thissss finally somebody said it on RUclips! If we keep allowing ourselves to be over sexualized constantly than we can’t be mad when people of other races view that exact same way SMH
I forget who it was, but there was one rapper who in a live performance between songs said that they get more money for doing ignorant lyrical content.
Lol you didn’t mention nicki Minaj but she can actually do both and still be successful like the white peoples you mentioned maybe you dont or care about her discography and Nicki is still active in the rap game idk but it’s like you mentioned the OG and the new girls but in the middle nicki exist lol your video made seems she never even existed and she’s one of the woman who can have both and she’s part of the rap culture. good video tho
Nick can really rap her ass off when she wants to, but she too is a slave to the game. She had to play into that angle to become famous, though she kept it clean enough for more lyrical creativity.
Honestly, it is about time for them to think more carefully about their career and what label do they want to work under. They need to start thinking about planning ahead. For example, do they ever think about how to change their image or people's perception of them? Even though Cardi B tried, she failed to change people's perception of her because she lost the advantage of first impression the moment she is being sexualized in her first song. It will take a least 2 or more albums for her to succeed. One thing that they can try is to save money and use their money to open their own label that they have more control over their own career. As a long time K-Pop fan of BLACKPINK, when I heard that 2 of their members confirmed that they are 2 CEO of their own music label that they just open recently, I was surprised and happy for them because this is something that you rarely heard of that is being done by women in South Korea. They did it because they more creative control over their career while keeping their group contract under their first label, YG Entertainment. I'm not saying that western female rappers have do the same thing as them, but it is something that they can try to do.
Rap started as a counter-culture social movement thru music but got heavily commodified sometime during the 2000s I’d say, id say it was definitely present in blk women & men. Everything is commodified nowadays
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And when you don’t support it, you are told you are anti-Blk and anti-women. As if being vulgar is linked to Blkness and women on default.
Notice when she put up the collage of pictures of all the executives that choose who makes it or not are middle aged, yt men? That tells you right there that’s how they see blk ppl, the blk american culture and blk women. They keep pushing what they think is the only thing that works from an old yt man’s perspective trying to be hip to the blk culture. Notice how BET went down the tubes the moment it started being ran by yt people? They just running our image and culture into the ground like they do everything else. And people within our community is helping them.
@@anonnnymousthegreat Very well said! Completely agree.
Facts
I agree with everything you said it gets exhausting hearing the same topics being rapped about by female rappers
Every time I see anything WAP related all I can think of is that Monique “Is this who we are???” clip and you actually used it in the video 😂 I had to subscribe.
Very interesting point about white artists being able to jump in and out of hypersexuality and not having that become their whole brand. She isn’t a rapper, but the only black female artist I can think of who mainstream audiences accept as overtly sexual sometimes and vulnerable other times is Beyoncé. Even then the way she expresses her sexuality fits into the “baddie” mold. It seems like the only way people will embrace a woman owning her sexuality is if she does it in a way that still titillates men. Janelle Monae has made music exploring her sexuality, but she’s never brought up in conversations about “sexual empowerment” because she centers her experience and not the male gaze.
Also who was talking at 3:39? She made a great point and I would love to see the rest of her interview.
Haha! The Monique clip was PERFECT for this video! Thank you for subscribing and welcome ❤️ Beyoncé is a great example of a Black woman who is allowed to do both! Jaguar Wright was the woman talking, I do t agree with her on everything but on this topic she was spot on! If you search “Jaguar Wright + female rap” you should find the clip 😉
@@ashleyaviolaI’m actually a boy but I really like and respect you and what you say
I LOVED this analysis! These were all things that I've been thinking about as I've gotten more interested in more hip-hop/rap music, but as a white woman from New Zealand I was wondering if I was missing some cultural context. Its tiring seeing the only criticism of the hypersexuality of female rap coming from thinly veiled racist and misogynistic takes instead of looking at how the music industry basically forces these women into these hypersexual personas in order to succeed. Thank you for introducing me to some lesser known female artists too
Ik this is supposed to be serious but 4:46 took me out 😂😂 great content though ‼️
They are not forced, they choose. They have the option to be less naked and they won't.
Thank you for this video❤❤
Thank YOU for watching!
Excellent arguments!! I subscribed ❤
So happy to have you here ❤️
A couple years ago I was in a halfway house and my roommate played this song about "I grab my push !one a weapon." It made me a little sick because it was the way gross men talk about their junk. The worst men. I hated it so much. It approximates the wirse, most toxic male BS
I can't disagree with one thing you said!
@3:47 Jag talks TRUTH‼️❤
love me some noname
The answer is yes
TEMS IS NOT A RAPPER BUT A SINGER-SONGWRITER.
Get it right
Well so they made a choice no one is forcing them no one has put a gun to their heads, face it it's a Business sex sells always have always will
hello ashley and how your day going and have you thought about live streaming on twitch and starting your own podcast and starting your own vlog channel on youtube and starting your own tiktok account and starting your own discord account and starting your own patreon account or onlyfans account in the future
I get the cardi b be careful vs wap but let’s be real the beat on be careful was shit and also cardi b is a Mexican.. so what do we say about saweetie? Bc icy girl had no foul, vulgar language or cussin and that’s her best song. Sometimes an artist is just shit and there was def a bigger budget for wap then there was for be careful but that just poses the question of why and it all goes back to black women ( NOT CARDI B who is a Mexican) cannot be soft and cute and make a hit they have to be nasty and vulgar just like you said. Just adding my 2 cents!
Cardi B is not Mexican lolll she’s an Afro Latina with roots from Dominican Republic and Trinidad. Cardi B is black she’s just not African American
@@caribanna1865 she’s not black get it together ..
@@caribanna1865 very much false she is not black ill say she's Spanish but dont b dense she's not black
@@caribanna1865 she’s not black. I’m not sure why my comments keep getting deleted.
@@accountuser9382 Cardi B is afro Latino which is black. Black is not a monolith nor is it phenotypically one thing and it doesn’t only involve African American as an identity. Spanish is not a race it’s a language and a nationality/national identity. This is just facts.
THIS! Also, I feel like something that can get lost in the conversation is the complexity surrounding choice feminism. Often times women can unknowingly engage in self-objectification and say “oh acting/dressing/performing like this is just my personal preference!” but fail to consider what has INFLUENCED that preference
I'm a french student working on hypersexualization of Women in Hip-Hip, and your videos perfectly introduced me to the subject, with all the knowledge and your source-based opinion (which I totally agree with) ! Congrats, keep doing what you do ! +1 sub :)
Right
I totally agree. I miss the days when MC lyte, queen latifia, da brat, etc…were big in the rap/hip hop scene. Female rappers today all look the same, pretty much sound the same and pretty much all promote the same things. It’s gotten boring and cookie cutter anymore. So i stopped really listening to mainstream rap/hip hop anymore, especially now when it’s hypersexuality is being mostly promoted.
Why colored woman behave like this
I don’t think Tems is a rapper. She’s an Afro-beat R&B singer ❤️
Thank you so much for the clarification! ❤️
@@ashleyaviola that's sad
@@ashleyaviolaaccountability is like kryptonite. Why so hard for y'all to take accountability for your actions? Nobody didn't put a gun before these Women's face and tell them to act slutty.
@@ashleyaviolain cardi B and Megan stallion themselves wrote WAP. so your Video is flawed and low key misandry and victim play.
@@ashleyaviolaI really like you Ashley you’re my best friend ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
THIS!!! THANK YOU!!! everytime i try to look at what other content-creators have to say about hypersexualization of women in media it always ends on 'its their choice' kind of stance like nobody wants to actually think WHY would these women make 'choice' like that! and the discussion of women's influence on young girls also goes the same way unfortunately... i appreciate your research on the topic and as a white woman myself i also appreciate your point of view as a black woman!! thank you again for the video!!
Bring back Missy Elliott 👌🤟💯
I don't think there's anything empowering about being sexually loose.
I don’t mind the sexualization honestly it’s just the fact that it’s all they know how to do and have no actual rap skills love nicki even tho she does it she can actually rap same for Doechii and doja and more they have some sort of talent outside of that I can respect that at least.
But I couldn’t respect people like Ice spice with no talent at all in rap and only know how to twerk and mess that’s how I personally see it. The problem for me isn’t really sexaulizing cause at the end of the day that’s what sells 🤷♂️but
It’s the lack of talent and creativity that I’m starting to notice from rap girls.
Rap music sucks anyway , and so does sexual exploitation
I don't mind the sexualization, either. It's been around since the 90's. The problem is rappers like Megan Thee Stallion and Ice Spice who use it as a crutch to hide the lack of substance in their lyrics.
@@DBZAOTA482 👎
@@DBZAOTA482Megan is a REAL talented rapper. She’s versatile but when she talks about something else y’all don’t listen and you are the proof. Megan is a LYRICIST.
@@SideEyeee_ Yeah, well... where's the receipts?
We needed to have this conversation! Colorism itself is needs a whole video.
I love your commentary! You always hit the nail on the head. Times have really changed and sometimes, well oftentimes, I don't think it's been for the best. It seems as we try to move forward and progress in our society, we're actually going backwards and misogyny is still running rampant. It's frustrating.
And that's the problem with this industry and it drives me nuts. You have these talented girls writing, spitting, working working working and all of that work but they don't really get noticed until they start to sexualize their routine and their lyrics get a little more sexual and they start talking about their Kitty.. and it's ridiculous if you look at Latto's music she has been doing her damn thing writing since before the rap game, but she didn't really blow up until she grew up, got a little more sexual and then that's when the big labels started coming to call. After Riri played her B from da souf on live and she started to blow up off that song and you've seen it's still more sexual than her older stuff but honestly I don't think that's her making those decisions, these Labels want all the females to be hypersexualized and they act like you can't be successful without it. It's the men who made the bbl and boob jobs the norm. You've got girls like Flo Milli who have crazy Talent crazy bars, you ever listen to a Flo Milli song the things that she says are out of this world and again she didn't really start getting attention until it became over sexualized the outfits got skimpier and the lyrics got nastier. She has a different, skinnier body and darker skin so that's what's holding her back? It's bullshit. Gone are the days we focused on talent, when will it end
My thoughts exactly it's something I also noticed
These are our ppl why act like this
Great video! It’s so true that women of color are objectified in the public eye and that is done for a reason. I commented on your quiet luxury video about how American Indian towns, empires and kingdoms were destroyed and the people put into slavery. The rulers of those kingdoms were women. Google “emblem of America” or look at any old paintings and drawings of Americans from the 1400-1700s and you’ll see Indian queens ruling over her tribes and empires. The people who run the music industry know exactly who we are and are desperate to keep us from knowing the truth. So they hyper sexualize us to keep us in a low vibration, so we can’t elevate and be the rulers over everyone again.
They want Black women to be degraded, disrespected and only seen as sex objects in the general public, and it works, the more and more the industry pushes the vulgar and oversexualized image of bw, the more bw will be shamed and devalued.. also those women are complete sellouts! An don't care.
Hey I didn’t watch the video I just clicked on your thumbnail to say you look like Beyoncé ❤️
Haha, thanks! ❤️
She doesn’t. 💀
As the man (Gen 1:26-28) KJV, a husband (Gen 2:21-25) and a father (Gen 3:16), the minister of God (Rom 13), teacher (Eph 4) and one of the survivors who was bullied in school, bad girls say and do what bad girls say and do. There are really not any limits to the things that bad girls say and do. They do things backwards. Sing it "Adina Howard - Freak Like Me (Official Video) [Director's Uncut Version]. Backwards + Backwards will never = Forward. I grew up with them with and without their GPS ankle monitor. There are a whole lot of them. I have always been outnumbered by them. Due to my shyness, I was never comfortable being alone with any of them. Even they have their own club titled "Bad Girls Club". For some reason, the cuter they are, the badder and more aggressive they are. Some mature as time passes, others just age. I personally stayed away from all of them as much as possible, but everyone has their own cravings. Sing it "Donna Summer - Bad Girls". Sing it "Donna Summer - Hot Stuff (12" Version)". Class is dismissed.
And y’all have the AUDACITY to call Pedonika “The Queen of Rap” when she’s exactly like the other girls but older. Most of them are the same. Lil’ Kim is the true ORIGINAL Queen.
Fantastic video!
I am curious if anyone has listened to Cardi's "Be Careful" song recently? I felt like the production quality of that song compared to the rest of the album was not as good to listen too. My paranoid brain got to thinking what if the song was produced poorly ( by a party outside of the artist knowledge) to make sure it didnt do well 🤔. Every other song on the album has this level of richness to the audio and seems balanced well, but the Be careful track( at least to me) felt like the background beats & Her voice were subtly fighting for dominance... its a weird thing to explain.
Thissss finally somebody said it on RUclips! If we keep allowing ourselves to be over sexualized constantly than we can’t be mad when people of other races view that exact same way SMH
Can anyone tell me who the lady is at 3:57? Great video btw
Thanks hun! Her name is Jaguar Wright, I don't agree with everything she says but she was spot on here! ❤
@@ashleyaviola thanks for answering. You're a 🌟
Please what's the name of the sound in the background?
Yep. You summarized my thoughts.
What’s wrong with colored woman?
@@patrickturk8957 ???
@@anyaaa2801 Why colored women don't care for each other
I forget who it was, but there was one rapper who in a live performance between songs said that they get more money for doing ignorant lyrical content.
Lol you didn’t mention nicki Minaj but she can actually do both and still be successful like the white peoples you mentioned maybe you dont or care about her discography and Nicki is still active in the rap game idk but it’s like you mentioned the OG and the new girls but in the middle nicki exist lol your video made seems she never even existed and she’s one of the woman who can have both and she’s part of the rap culture. good video tho
Niki wasn't noticed until she got bbl, changed her face, started dressing ratchet, and sing about sex.
@@malenyluna5275 I saw Nicki rap when she had the cap and hoodie on and she was phenomenal. Then she changed.
nah nicki isn't THAT talented.
@@SideEyeee_ lol I’m not even waste my time
Nick can really rap her ass off when she wants to, but she too is a slave to the game. She had to play into that angle to become famous, though she kept it clean enough for more lyrical creativity.
Honestly, it is about time for them to think more carefully about their career and what label do they want to work under. They need to start thinking about planning ahead. For example, do they ever think about how to change their image or people's perception of them? Even though Cardi B tried, she failed to change people's perception of her because she lost the advantage of first impression the moment she is being sexualized in her first song. It will take a least 2 or more albums for her to succeed. One thing that they can try is to save money and use their money to open their own label that they have more control over their own career. As a long time K-Pop fan of BLACKPINK, when I heard that 2 of their members confirmed that they are 2 CEO of their own music label that they just open recently, I was surprised and happy for them because this is something that you rarely heard of that is being done by women in South Korea. They did it because they more creative control over their career while keeping their group contract under their first label, YG Entertainment. I'm not saying that western female rappers have do the same thing as them, but it is something that they can try to do.
Rap started as a counter-culture social movement thru music but got heavily commodified sometime during the 2000s I’d say, id say it was definitely present in blk women & men. Everything is commodified nowadays
Not true, you are soooo biased. Obviously.
you deserve so many more followers. i am currently watching all of your videos after finding your TikTok consumption video. this is great content!
I was just having this conversation with my gf. We were talking about how Coi Leray's style switched up as she got more fame.