Touch and gos are the bread and butter of flight students. Imagine doing dozens of them yourself as a student and then begrudging others the same experience once you don’t need to do them anymore. Let’s be gracious to students - they are likely already nervous and maybe even feeling like the don’t belong. People like this guy can kill a love of learning.
This right here. I did my touch and go’s at ROC in New York. Good airport to learn, there’s commercial traffic but also plenty of students in a Class C. I agree, I was nervous, felt like I didn’t belong being on the comms alongside the bigger guys. Doing this and hearing someone like that would have crushed any confidence I had.
@@mrdonovan213 my daughter learned at Elizabeth City, which is an interesting combination of commercial, flight school, GA, and occasional military craft. The ATC and airport staff were like family. They had a cookout every Friday and invited the flight school students. It made it so much easier for young student pilots to communicate with ATC when they knew they were like family to the people on the radio.
Lol. I think this may apply to the second video as well. Sorry Kelsey, but you missed it here. Sure - bad phraseology and the actual PIC may need some radio work refreshers - but the plane owners kids is on the radio here and - I'd say stellar job at her age (probably 10 or so?)
ATC ar rarely the culprits, but they don't take kindly to pilots who think they own the airport. Here at London Heathrow, with only 2 runways their is a particular problem when an incoming flight has declared Mayday or pan-pan. ATC will sometimes advise aircraft waiting on the taxiways to shut their engines down. They will also help, by advising flights with close fuel margins when to leave the gate, to avoid delays getting to the runway and awaiting takeoff clearance. During busy periods, on a clear day, you can see a row of up to 5 flights lined up on final approach. ATC do not have an easy job.
Love it: a professional adult pilot acting like a child followed by a child acting like a professional adult pilot (incorrect phraseology notwithstanding 😂). Kelsey's commentary: hilarious and, well, adorable.
There you go Kelsey; someone called you adorable! 😂When I think of Kelsey I think professional, witty, entertaining, skilled content creator. Adorable...🤷♀ Pedro Pascal goofing around with the innocence of a child? Now THAT'S adorable, but he's an actor. That's part of his professional toolbox. Personally, I think you've seen too much, but that's one person's opinion in this vast wasteland we call the internet. Doesn't mean much at the end of the day.😉
I'm almost certain that business jet didn't have a FO, and the Captain was letting his very young daughter make the transmission. Thus why you hear the "That is adorable"
American airlines are one of the worst carriers in the world. Only Delta remains somewhat better than the US avoid-flying-them crowd. Asia has the world's best.
@@Mark-pp7jy "Settle Down, Captain Happy." I'd hate to be that guy. On the wrong taxiway, acting like an ass to a controller who is being very polite, and getting the whole thing on YOuTube for the world to hear.
Instructor hypothetically saying: "Quit going upside down, Kelsey" . I love your lack of ego and lack of narcissism. Love your channel and learn lots as well as simply being entertained.
As a Dad can’t help but be proud of the kid, regardless. The AA pilot was having a rough day, it happens. Flight crew or tech ops, we all have our days. Great video Kelsey!
Ridiculous attitude from the pilot. I recently flew in and out of Madison, it was very clear there was lots of training going on at this field as well. so yes... it is a touch and go field. A professional flying into the field should know this. Also you are right the folks in Wisconsin are the nicest people in the world!
@@vinny142 and this allows the behavior how? Stop deflecting just for the sake of arguing. It was unprofessional and made him sound like a child, end of story. Clearly other people make mistakes, everyone knows that lol.
@@vinny142You don't have to be a professional 24/7, and you don't EVER have to be a ray of sunshine. What is expected, however, is being professional for those few minutes when you're on the radio with controllers, be it 5 mins or 20 mins or whatever. Even if you're pissy about something, you don't let that out over the radio. And though I'm not a pilot, I've worked customer service for over 3 decades. No matter what you're feeling, you have to maintain some professional decorum. So, yes, this was a ridiculous attitude from the pilot/FO on the radio here. And if you think "everyone has a bad day" excuses behavior like this, that's a view that's going to bite you in the ass sooner or later (like I bet it did for this guy once his bosses heard this audio).
Kelsey, Thank you for being so welcoming and kind yesterday. I hope your day went well. You were so wonderful to my wife and I. Thank you again. Brian Weber
@@aussieevonne7857 I didn't fly with him . He got sat at the table next to us at breakfast. He was gracious enough to introduce us to his friend. I'm a new GA pilot, and I felt like I was intruding. I did my best not to take much of his time.
My father was an aeronautical engineer for Piper when I was growing up so I spent a lot of time in a very small cockpit as a toddler. Hearing this little one on the radio just made my heart sing!! I love that there is someone out there giving another little one the love of flying. BTW Kelsey, I think you're adorable! But then again, I have a thing for red headed aviators. My dad was a red head too 😘
I thought I saw Kelsey at an airport at first. As I headed over I was thinking. “What do I say?” But realized @30’ away *too much hair*. I thought “blue side up” or “where can I find the good snacks”
Woman-child, actually - that was RuthlessAviatorGirl! 🥰 I was soooo hoping that Kelsey would get a chance to do one of these. It seems that most of the aviation videos from the channel have been hidden (it says 20 videos but most of them don't show up anymore when I just checked... 🙁) for some reason, but there are a couple left if you want to check them out. She's absolutely adorable, and I'm so glad that her dad is teaching her to be comfortable talking on the radio. 👍
@@dshrauger Ah, ok. Well then the others were taken down for some reason, because there used to be more of the aviation videos on that channel and now there's only two. 🤷♂ I hope they get put back eventually; maybe even get some new ones up at some point. 🌝
Hi Kelsey, My dad who was a pilot is the one who turned me on to your page. He flew with KLM from 1967 to 1992. He was the last KLM pilot to fly from East Berlin in the GDR to Amsterdam and the first KLM pilot to fly Amsterdam to Beijing in the mid 1970s. And was part of a board of pilots who wanted to get Jacov van Zanten. If you don;'t know who that is look up the Tenerife airport crash. They had wanted to get him fired months before the crash as they felt he would one day cause an accident. But, van Zanten was KLM's star pilot so it didn't work He's now 96 and from time to time still does advisory work for KLM. I know when he was flying during long haul flights he would always come out ad talk to passengers. This is the days when cockpit doors were open and children could visit the pilots. My dad use to buy toys of Fokker and 747 aircraft. I still remember the first time I flew and there was a smoking and non smoking area. When he took control of the 747 a year after I was born in 1971 he always flew long haul flights. He had a list of least favourite airports. NY, LA and Schönefeld in East Berlin due to as he put it (shitty air traffic control). His favourites Singapore, Sydney, Tokyo, Montreal, and the old Kai Tak International in Hong Kong.
Wow, your father has had a pretty awesome life! I hope he's still going strong because the world needs good people in it. Him buying the toys for little passengers is, well, adorable (had to use that word at least once lol). If he's up for it (not all memories are happy ones), maybe you could help him write his memoirs? It would be a big hit in the aviation world and probably throughout the Nederlands. Ach ja, het is laat en ik zou eigenlijk naar bed moeten gaan! Welterusten en alle goeds voor jou en je familie, en vooral voor je vader. 😊 (Ik ben de Nederlandse taal aan het leren. Excuses voor mijn slechte Nederlands!!)
I’m a pediatrician and I like most kids more than most adults. This video illustrates why. I took a few flying lessons prior to having to stop due to time and cost. Radio communication was one of the most difficult and scary things for me to do correctly. I know this girl is being prompted by dad but she nails it, and does it with confidence. Nice work (and good on ya dad)!
Lol, as a longtime barista, that has sadly happened to me. But I work at a co-op, so we all own the place & we do not suffer fools. It’s very refreshing to have the ability to tell rude customers to kick rocks😉
Jeez I knew flying a plane and being a pilot was difficult and very complex. But all the things you guys need to consider and be aware of the proper amount of fuel to include to pull back and taxi to the runway, the importance of proper communication with ATC, not to mention the actual flying with the computer inputs and control flaps etc....holy crap thank you men and women who we entrust our lives with. Your appreciated by me even more now and level of respect increased sevenfold
As a dad to young daughters, who teaches them to do some things that a lot of adults have trouble with, that first officer made my freaking day. My eyes aren’t getting leaky, there’s a lot of moisture in the air from this historic SoCal hurricane…
@@Cultural_Supremacist We had one small hurricane come in one morning and I assumed work was cancelled for the day. About 10 am, someone called me to ask if I was coming to work. I said something about the hurricane and they told me to look outside. No wind and not a cloud in the sky. I went to work.
Yes, definitely not a FO! That likely was his daughter who he was letting do radio under instruction. I thought it was great and ATC had worked it out- Ans slowed down!
If I remember, she's 2 or 3. She has also landed that Cessna by herself, with Dad ready to take over. She has her own channel, although she may regret that when she gets teen angst.
@@johnhaller5851 She's 7, I believe...her channel's Ruthlessaviatorgirl, but her dad had to take most of the flight videos down because people were freaking out over them because, sadly, the world' has far too many Karens, and far too few Kelseys and Ruthlessaviatorgirl/Dad combos,
She was 6 when those videos were made. In a booster seat. She also programmed the Garmin like a pro and even landed the jet. Some people who had no clue and too much time on their hands got all upset about it and complained to the FAA I believe. So he took them down.
With the right parent(s), she will be able to. The sheer fact that you're aware of the potential "because she's female" comments, that will undoubtedly come her way at some point, will help prepare her for it. You'll most likely be training her already without realising it. She's lucky to have such an aware father. My dad was excellent (so was Mum. She loved that Dad would teach her anything she wanted to learn; that was mainly household and car maintenance - not cleaning, fixing stuff! She came from a very "genteel" home). My elder sisters were born in the mid-late '50s, and I and my youngest sister were born ten years later. Dad, despite being born in 1927, and growing up in a very "small c" conservative rural area (reluctance to change rather than politics), with 4 brothers (only 2 of whom made it beyond early childhood) and 3 sisters, he was actually taught to do everything his sisters were expected to do, just as were they expected to do "man stuff". To say that was unusual would be my biggest understatement of the year so far! One thing he made clear to us all was that the only thing men could not do that women can is to be a biological mother and vice versa (he admired single parents of whatever gender, especially when they did a good job, appreciating how damned hard they had to work.) What he meant was that physical inability to accomplish something was our only acceptable "excuse". I could change a 3 pin plug years before I could make toast. (The grill was at the top of the stove and I couldn't see it. We didn't have a toaster!) Good luck to your little one, but I have good vibes from you!
I just started my private pilot traing and I'm also an engineer with a background in numbers and how things work. Thank you Kelsey. You aviate. You navigate. And here you do a great job of communicating.
Flight training is a commercial use of the field. When I was doing my PP training, my instructor had me working T&Gs on a variety of fields in the area, from 10001 x 150 ft. (GSO) to 2725 x 32 ft. (N63) . Edit: anecdote -- I do remember one time coming in to GSO for a T&G with a crosswind early in training... an American pilot holdinig for me got on the radio and said "more right rudder,"
You hit the nail on the head when you said "don't forget where you came from." I was thinking it and then you said it. We say it all the time when teaching new guys on the team. You have to teach in a humble way because they are you, just 15 years later.
Hey, start em young! The kid was killing it! My son starts College/Flight school tomorrow! I'm excited, he's nervous...and excited! Have a great week everyone!
I know what it is to be able to help answer people’s questions and then have someone try to discredit you or the information you offer. Keep up the great work. It’s not like you don’t already have enough to do. Thank you. @age 66 and ten years Navy Seabee and other experiences I have held license for heavy equipment, boating, autos, trucks and locomotive engineer. I’m encouraged by your sharing and may look into a private pilot’s license. Thanks again
I love how we have this super adorable video of a kid experiencing such a great moment with her dad, and Kelsey's over here just tearing the kid a new one for using improper phraseology. Never change Kelsey, never change.
The second video was definitely satire. I was a bit worried until he said that “now I don’t know if this FO was busy with her schoolwork” bit. And he even made it more clear with the payment of food and shelter which got a good laugh from me. But I will say Kelsey wasn’t actually wrong, even if it was all tongue in cheek. Obviously Dad took their kid out for a flight and the kid doesn’t have a license, and they likely stayed in air space near small regional airports. But Dad was preoccupied with making sure the kid said everything right so other pilots could hear, and aside from the one wrong call, the kid wasn’t the clearest with the call sign. But clearly they’re learning and it’s great experience for later in life when they can start learning.
Kelsey, that little girl you hear on the radio-she's actually 6 years old and her talking on the radio while sitting in the cockpit is a big part of her dad's YT channel. Wish I could remember the name of the channel. Her father usually flies out of a mid size airport, but sometimes they fly in/out of DFW.
That's what I figured aswell. Sounds like a child, repeating what the captain says. If that's the case, isn't that incredibly unprofessional? In particular at that stage of the flight
@@bobbisen I was surprised when the controllers at DFW were not only okay with it, but it sounded like they looked forward from hearing from the little girl (they've done this more than once). I'm guessing that she's homeschooled because she is in the cockpit quite a bit.
So very unprofessional, I would have been appalled if I was training as heard that on the radio. Thank you Kelsey for all the information love the videos I learn so much. Asa
My son is having flying lessons and is now starting to learn ATC calls (well when the plane isn't broken, subjected to poor weather, having Covid-19 ...) . I arranged a visit to the tower to see the people with whom he will be talking to. It made a world of difference to his confidence.
@RuthlessAviatorGirl is the channel with the little girl and her dad, so cute! Well played Kelsey, comparing a childish pilot to a more well-behaved child.
Hey Kelsey, I flew home for a family reunion and it was the first time I flew since I found you on RUclips. It has been some 5 years since I last flew..I have flown before...a little nervously..but it was whole different experience this time. From the time I drove into the Long Term Lot at Sac Airport….until the plane landed at O’Hara in Chicago..I was relaxed. And that’s because of you and your channel. All the sounds..sights….movements..etc.. I was able to anticipate..so I just relaxed. One of my highlights was predicting when they would start using their flaps..and I was pretty close!!! Thanks for what you do!!!
I was Madison born and raised, and had my first flight lesson at MSN. (Living in LA now and flying out of WHP.) It's so cool to see my hometown on your channel. And hilarious commentary on the second piece. I love this channel.
That first pilot quite obviously did “forget where he came from” He too was doing “touch and go’s” at an airfield where there probably was someone that had to wait a bit. No matter, there’s no need to be a little B. The short fuel window is ALL on him. Great work Kelsey! Thanks for another great video. KTBSU!
The Chief Pilot should have a serious talk with him about preparation and attitude. Would you want to fly on an aircraft where the pilot is that arrogant and unprepared? I wonder how he treats his co-pilots. I suspect, not very well.
I always appreciate Kelsey’s viewpoint in these videos. I want to pursue a career in aviation but currently don’t have a good idea where I want to start, or where I should start. That American pilot at one point was an aspiring pilot just like me, and I’m sure he wouldn’t have appreciated someone talking like that on frequency while he was learning.
Wow, how many people are not going to get that Kelsey knew that was a child and her father (the pilot) on the radio? That whole thing was meant to be funny and man did it fly ✈️ over some people's heads. 😂
I went down the rabbit hole of watching a bunch of their videos. It's a jet, and she actually lands it at least once (obviously with dad very close at hand and ready to take over in case of issue). Very encouraging and fun to watch for a bit!
Kelsey, It was so good to hear about your experience with Henderson. I started my aviation career there, and ended my aviation career there, with some KLAS and VGT in between! It's a small world, I'm pleased to see you've "made it" into the big time. Someday I'll see you in person, and just wave.
Thank you for being an Atlas pilot who isn’t a diva 🤣. I work with a few different cargo carriers and when I’m loading Atlas planes I’ve come to expect divas and am pleasantly surprised when I get cool pilots
That childish pilot makes me hesitant to fly American Airlines. When people get that angry over small things they begin to make mistakes because their mind is distracted from the important stuff at hand. Plus they tend to take actions to show their anger. I am not a physiologist but I am a short tempered person and know what happens. It takes over the mind no mater how good you think you are at multitasking.
Agree with u on that. If he’s taking short cuts now on fuel management on domestic commuter routes ( and “ getting away with it”), doesn’t auger well should his career advance to bigger aircraft a/c, longer routes, more complex flight management decisions
How does Kelsey do fuel calculation in the hotel without knowing the passengers/loads...empty payload? The child has the clearest voice I heard so far!
That LOVE Tower is that Citation landing on Runway 13 Left at Dallas Love Field, which I make 4k planespotting videos at. nice to see him post smth about it!
Well said Kelsey! There’s a bunch of our peers in the industry who need to eat a giant humble sandwich and get down from their high horse on legacy captain mountain and remember where they came from. I can’t imagine how everything else in that American flight deck was handled during that whole trip. Sure feel bad for the first officer (just assuming it was the CA who made the comment) but also feel really bad, like you said, for the student pilots who this Captain America tried to belittle. Bravo to the controllers in the tower for making a stand and setting it straight.
Speaking of tantrums, just a couple of days ago there was a pilot taking an axe to the parking gates in Denver because the line leaving the airport was backed up.
I love your channel, you have a great voice and pleasant presence like you're not screaming at the camera like some do or trying to be someone you're not it's just genuine and that's why I love your reaction videos 😊 Also you have a great smile!!
There was a piece on BBC News the other day about other drivers hurling abuse at people on their driving lessons. Sad to see the same happens with pilots.
Yay-maybe I got to fly with Kelsey when I was traveling for work and he was flying regionals to, apparently, MKE. As a Wisconsinite, I appreciate the kind words about us and the escapism the videos provide since I’m now firmly attached to a patch of land between MKE and MSN because of my critters.
I know exactly where that is!!! I used to live about an hour south of there! My husband is a Wisconsin native, and much of our family is scattered throughout the state. Thanks for the compliment on our friendliness, Kelsey❤️
MSN is my home field. If you look at the map in the video the lower right is Wisconsin Aviation, a busy flight school and a very busy FBO. The lower left is Air National Guard F-35 and Army Guard Blackhawks. MSN is also an ATC training center for new controllers. The commercial side is growing but most people drive to Milwaukee or Chicago to fly cheaper.
I used Madison as one of my airports when I did my long cross country before getting my private. It was a good stop and there was plenty of general aviation flying around the airport. Tower was great and helped me navigate to GA to top off the tanks. This "professional pilot" has indeed forgotten that we all play in the same sandbox, whether we fly at 3,500' or 35,000'. I am, however, surprised that someone didn't key their mic and say, "waaaaaaaaah". (I probably would not do that, but it would cross my mind!)
Thank you for a great satirical sense of humour. Fabulous channel. It's a serious subject but you find the gaps to make us laugh! You're good at what you do mate so keep it going
Kelsey, there is a dad with his daughter of about an age of 6 or 7 posting videos with them together in a private jet and she is doing some of the cockpit work under his supervision and how she is doing it is amazingly. You may watch this. I can imagine, getting used to all this in the cockpit from this age on is not a bad idea of the father which brings her tightly into the aviation world. Hope my words are making sense. I'm German.
You always continue to come across as a really nice guy and I am sure you are. When you said, "remember where you came from", I always think that when drivers hoot learner drivers. Great channel and great vids always. Thank you.
I am so glad that was your take on the airline pilot’s attitude. 40 years ago, I was taking off from a field much like this one. While taxiing to the runway, the tower called and requested I pull off to the side, at the threshold, to do my run up so the airliner behind me could go around and take off first. I looked behind me to see a 727. Airlines and private planes are on different frequencies, so I had no idea he was going to be there. I did not want to pull off because if the 727 cut inside me at the turn on to the runway, the jet blast could flip me over. So, as I taxied, I did everything on the check list so the only thing to do at the threshold was check the mags and set the mixture. As I raced through that, I glanced over my shoulder to see the 727 trying to violently maneuver around me. So violently the wings were rocking up and down. It's a sight will never forget. Apparently, the pilot was not happy with me. But I was done, so I reached up to pull the throttle back and tell the tower I was ready (by the way we were going to be using different runways). But I was so flustered I pull the mixture back instead, killing the engine and making it necessary to do it all again! That memory has haunted me all these years. Was that two minutes really that important the airline pilot? Did the airline pilot really have that much distain for private pilots?
Around 20 years ago, I was in a C152 at an international Airport, and a small regional jet pulled out on the taxiway in front of us (before calling for taxi clearance.) We nearly did an involuntary take-off in his jet blast. Small planes don't like taxiing behind jets for a reason. In our case, ATC wasn't happy with them, and made them return to the terminal and sit in the corner for a time-out.
I learned to fly in a Cessna 150 N50354 at Mayport Naval Flying club. Virtually no ATC except in military emergencies needing to land on a short runway with arresting cables on both ends. One day after my solo at 8 hours, I was performing multiple touch-and-go landings, when I heard a blaring ATC transmission in the speaker above my left ear to immediately climb out to 4500' for an incoming emergency landing. I performed that perfectly and was impressed with myself until I looked back and saw that Navy fighter effortlessly catch the first cable and come to a stop in a 25 knot crosswind off the sea. Wow! Those guys were good. Id say guys and gals but the gals didnt come until decades later.
Holy cow Kelsey, I got my private certificate out of Henderson executive airport as well. Small world! It was back in the late 90s when I was going there. My flight instructor was an older gentlemen named Chuck, he was a hell of a guy. I heard he passed on this past July. They don't make them like him anymore. I don't fly anymore med certificate pulled due to an irregular heartbeat but I have a lot of great memories from my experiences while flying.
Regarding the first clip, my best guess is that this pilot doesn't want to be embarrassed by having to explain to his passengers why they are returning for more fuel. The last clip is just adorable. You could just _hear_ the smile in the controller's voice, and you knew that hearing that young voice on the radio just made her day. Odds are that she was just a little more patient with everyone all day, and this made the day better for everyone else. All because a child was calling radio calls.
Also relevant, MSN has an Air National Guard unit flying F-16s. F-16 units do missed approach training and pattern work almost daily. If these pilots have any familiarity with MSN at all, they should know to plan and prepare for ground holds for that fact alone
I taught arts & crafts, I had to say almost daily (when my students found something too intimidating or difficult) that I wasnt born like this, I had to learn everything from the start too. If I can do something, anyone can. And theres no shame in being a rookie, that means youre one mean learning machine right now!
Wow, that pilots chief pilot needs to give him an interview without coffee. 1. We currently have a major pilot shortage! 2. Unless we train new pilots, 1. will get worse. 3. Being an arrogant plank driver, does not make you important. Great job from the controller. Hopefully he submitted a CADOR on that pilot!
That did not sound like a first officer. I think this was a single pilot operation, Dad was teaching his child to work the radio. Kid did a nice job repeating what he or she was told.
As a trainee radio tech at a small international airport, one of the best exercises was pretending we were in a car driving to the equipment building, needing to cross the runway or taxiways. Our instructor played the role of the ground controller. A few hours of that and we felt confident enough to do the radio calls when accompanying a qualified tech on a job across the runway. Same for having to call up ATC to test operational channels to identify a fault or after repair.
Aw, I'm sure some of us have called you adorable a time or two? I know I have 😂 Great video again, I always like to hear the grumpy gits that are caught on the radio. Glad that controller owned him in front of the students.
As a Retired AA Captain , on MD80, DC10 767/757 and fling747-40O for SIA , my experience was “release fuel” the system accurately calculated for RWY in use and average taxi fuel for that time of day at that airport . All my dispatchers had us landing with some typical for that airplane fuel pulling into the gate . You’re RIGHT , with 4 Cessnas , easy to taxi out in one engine . AA has a BIG cultural difference between levels of professionalism of EAGLE regional dudes , and mainline new hires .
I recently discovered your Channel. I’m a 56 Year-Old English Woman who was unaware that Flying was an interest of mine but since finding you I’ve developed a keen interest. Thank you for your amazing content
"stop flying upside down, Kelsey" and now we know the origin of the "keep the blue side up" signoff.
i was wondering abou thtat
Hah - yes!
You beat me to it lmao
I was looking for a comment like that 🤣👍
I'm more a fan of "Keep the greasy side down" XD
Touch and gos are the bread and butter of flight students. Imagine doing dozens of them yourself as a student and then begrudging others the same experience once you don’t need to do them anymore. Let’s be gracious to students - they are likely already nervous and maybe even feeling like the don’t belong. People like this guy can kill a love of learning.
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This excellent advice works in all industries.
Insightful, true and dead on.
This right here. I did my touch and go’s at ROC in New York. Good airport to learn, there’s commercial traffic but also plenty of students in a Class C. I agree, I was nervous, felt like I didn’t belong being on the comms alongside the bigger guys. Doing this and hearing someone like that would have crushed any confidence I had.
@@mrdonovan213 my daughter learned at Elizabeth City, which is an interesting combination of commercial, flight school, GA, and occasional military craft. The ATC and airport staff were like family. They had a cookout every Friday and invited the flight school students. It made it so much easier for young student pilots to communicate with ATC when they knew they were like family to the people on the radio.
With regards to the first pilot, you hit the nail square on the head when you said "Don't forget where you came from. "
Lol. I think this may apply to the second video as well. Sorry Kelsey, but you missed it here. Sure - bad phraseology and the actual PIC may need some radio work refreshers - but the plane owners kids is on the radio here and - I'd say stellar job at her age (probably 10 or so?)
@@stevedanhof6696 He knows that. It was a joke (funny) skit. He frequently likes to end the show with a funny clip.
"'Stop flying upside-down, Kelsey'."
Your self-deprecating sense of humor brings me joy.
I love his sense of humor, I could listen to him or hang iut with him all the time. I need some humor in my life, thank you Kelsey!
It doesn't matter if it was a rural airport or JFK. Pilots should always remain professional and courteous (This also goes for ATC).
ATC ar rarely the culprits, but they don't take kindly to pilots who think they own the airport. Here at London Heathrow, with only 2 runways their is a particular problem when an incoming flight has declared Mayday or pan-pan. ATC will sometimes advise aircraft waiting on the taxiways to shut their engines down.
They will also help, by advising flights with close fuel margins when to leave the gate, to avoid delays getting to the runway and awaiting takeoff clearance.
During busy periods, on a clear day, you can see a row of up to 5 flights lined up on final approach. ATC do not have an easy job.
And regardless, they're paid for by the taxpayers.
hahahaha.... uh NO!
Love it: a professional adult pilot acting like a child followed by a child acting like a professional adult pilot (incorrect phraseology notwithstanding 😂). Kelsey's commentary: hilarious and, well, adorable.
There you go Kelsey; someone called you adorable! 😂When I think of Kelsey I think professional, witty, entertaining, skilled content creator. Adorable...🤷♀ Pedro Pascal goofing around with the innocence of a child? Now THAT'S adorable, but he's an actor. That's part of his professional toolbox. Personally, I think you've seen too much, but that's one person's opinion in this vast wasteland we call the internet. Doesn't mean much at the end of the day.😉
I'm almost certain that business jet didn't have a FO, and the Captain was letting his very young daughter make the transmission.
Thus why you hear the "That is adorable"
@@jonslg240Yep.
@@jonslg240you missed the joke…
@@jonslg240whooooosh
Perhaps if Kelsey took a hit of helium before making his radio calls, ATC would also call him "adorable".
@waynedarlington8619 - I think he is adorable just the way he is, sans helium. Does that count for anything?
@@lisanadinebaker5179 I think the helium would still be hilarious though
Turning off the pressurization has the same effect on one's voice. It also happens to kill cognitive functioning as well.
Dumb he isn't a clown
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Imagine being that American pilot, being immortalized for the entire world to hear. Way to go hero.
That's nothing compared to what other pilots have been recorded saying.
American airlines are one of the worst carriers in the world. Only Delta remains somewhat better than the US avoid-flying-them crowd. Asia has the world's best.
Is that an infant on the radio ?
@@Mark-pp7jy "Settle Down, Captain Happy."
I'd hate to be that guy. On the wrong taxiway, acting like an ass to a controller who is being very polite, and getting the whole thing on YOuTube for the world to hear.
I wonder how long it took to come before the American chief pilot?
Instructor hypothetically saying: "Quit going upside down, Kelsey" . I love your lack of ego and lack of narcissism. Love your channel and learn lots as well as simply being entertained.
As a Dad can’t help but be proud of the kid, regardless. The AA pilot was having a rough day, it happens. Flight crew or tech ops, we all have our days. Great video Kelsey!
Boom
Well said but we do all have bad days and we need to still behave. The AA pilots needs to be re-educated on behaviour.
@@WhatALoadOfTosca *needs re-educating
@@M_SC My bad, it was actually "to be re-educated". Thanks for your lesson there. Much appreciated. :)
Note how the "first officer" in the second clip knew more about manners than the pilot in the first clip.
Ridiculous attitude from the pilot. I recently flew in and out of Madison, it was very clear there was lots of training going on at this field as well. so yes... it is a touch and go field. A professional flying into the field should know this. Also you are right the folks in Wisconsin are the nicest people in the world!
You've obviously never been to Green Bay when the Packers are playing.
green bay is full of hotwives and shart slurpers..notthe same deer@@peterhobson3262
"Ridiculous attitude from the pilot."
Like you're always the professional happy ray of sunshine 24/7?
@@vinny142 and this allows the behavior how? Stop deflecting just for the sake of arguing. It was unprofessional and made him sound like a child, end of story. Clearly other people make mistakes, everyone knows that lol.
@@vinny142You don't have to be a professional 24/7, and you don't EVER have to be a ray of sunshine. What is expected, however, is being professional for those few minutes when you're on the radio with controllers, be it 5 mins or 20 mins or whatever. Even if you're pissy about something, you don't let that out over the radio. And though I'm not a pilot, I've worked customer service for over 3 decades. No matter what you're feeling, you have to maintain some professional decorum.
So, yes, this was a ridiculous attitude from the pilot/FO on the radio here. And if you think "everyone has a bad day" excuses behavior like this, that's a view that's going to bite you in the ass sooner or later (like I bet it did for this guy once his bosses heard this audio).
Kelsey,
Thank you for being so welcoming and kind yesterday. I hope your day went well. You were so wonderful to my wife and I.
Thank you again.
Brian Weber
Nice! You flew with Kelsey? Or did you interact somewhere else?
@@aussieevonne7857 I didn't fly with him . He got sat at the table next to us at breakfast. He was gracious enough to introduce us to his friend. I'm a new GA pilot, and I felt like I was intruding. I did my best not to take much of his time.
@@halcyonoutlander2105 LMFAO
I love how Kelsey is so humble, he's so adorable!🤣🤣🤣
In Kelseys case, adorability is based on the availability of snacks.
My father was an aeronautical engineer for Piper when I was growing up so I spent a lot of time in a very small cockpit as a toddler. Hearing this little one on the radio just made my heart sing!! I love that there is someone out there giving another little one the love of flying.
BTW Kelsey, I think you're adorable! But then again, I have a thing for red headed aviators. My dad was a red head too 😘
Ruh roh. I am seeing Kelsey fans lined up at the ends of jetways with armfuls of snacks.
The supreme irony of ATC never characterizing Kelsey's radio traffic as "adorable" is that Kelsey is, in fact, adorable.
I thought I saw Kelsey at an airport at first. As I headed over I was thinking. “What do I say?” But realized @30’ away *too much hair*. I thought “blue side up” or “where can I find the good snacks”
@@larsharris Kelsey is only 5 foot 2, so that should help if you ever think you see him again. Heck of a nice guy, though.
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I love how Kelsey casually flexes his 747 numbers all over this man-child of a pilot
Woman-child, actually - that was RuthlessAviatorGirl! 🥰 I was soooo hoping that Kelsey would get a chance to do one of these. It seems that most of the aviation videos from the channel have been hidden (it says 20 videos but most of them don't show up anymore when I just checked... 🙁) for some reason, but there are a couple left if you want to check them out. She's absolutely adorable, and I'm so glad that her dad is teaching her to be comfortable talking on the radio. 👍
@@SuperDave1426 The rest of the 20 videos are the shorts. 👍
@@dshrauger Ah, ok. Well then the others were taken down for some reason, because there used to be more of the aviation videos on that channel and now there's only two. 🤷♂ I hope they get put back eventually; maybe even get some new ones up at some point. 🌝
@@SuperDave1426 Pretty sure he's talking about the rude pilot at the start of the video, not the adorable little girl in the last part. :)
@@jenniparker1 Oh! 🫢 Well, if that's the case, then that's different now, isn't it? 😆 I guess I missed that, thanks for mentioning it. 👍
The irony being there was a kid off camera telling Kelsey what to say.
All YTers Kelsey's age could afford to have Gen Alpha whispering in their ear. 😂😂
Just wait until Kelsey sees the video of the pilot, the parking gate, and the axe. Lol.
LOL I was listening to this while cooking thinking "wtf?" , thankfully I saw your comment and rewatched before wading in with a comment of my own🤣
@@unclerojelio6320omg I just saw that. I was going to mention it lol it was wild
@@unclerojelio6320ohhhhh FUDGE
.....haaaaaaaa
I love the baby's voice! Daddy is teaching her one of the most important parts of flying: the voice on the radio.
Hi Kelsey,
My dad who was a pilot is the one who turned me on to your page. He flew with KLM from 1967 to 1992. He was the last KLM pilot to fly from East Berlin in the GDR to Amsterdam and the first KLM pilot to fly Amsterdam to Beijing in the mid 1970s. And was part of a board of pilots who wanted to get Jacov van Zanten. If you don;'t know who that is look up the Tenerife airport crash. They had wanted to get him fired months before the crash as they felt he would one day cause an accident. But, van Zanten was KLM's star pilot so it didn't work
He's now 96 and from time to time still does advisory work for KLM.
I know when he was flying during long haul flights he would always come out ad talk to passengers. This is the days when cockpit doors were open and children could visit the pilots. My dad use to buy toys of Fokker and 747 aircraft. I still remember the first time I flew and there was a smoking and non smoking area.
When he took control of the 747 a year after I was born in 1971 he always flew long haul flights. He had a list of least favourite airports. NY, LA and Schönefeld in East Berlin due to as he put it (shitty air traffic control). His favourites Singapore, Sydney, Tokyo, Montreal, and the old Kai Tak International in Hong Kong.
You have to be a certain age to remember 'the no smoking sign has been turned off' - born 77 so I just caught it before the end. '
Wow, your father has had a pretty awesome life! I hope he's still going strong because the world needs good people in it. Him buying the toys for little passengers is, well, adorable (had to use that word at least once lol).
If he's up for it (not all memories are happy ones), maybe you could help him write his memoirs? It would be a big hit in the aviation world and probably throughout the Nederlands.
Ach ja, het is laat en ik zou eigenlijk naar bed moeten gaan! Welterusten en alle goeds voor jou en je familie, en vooral voor je vader. 😊
(Ik ben de Nederlandse taal aan het leren. Excuses voor mijn slechte Nederlands!!)
I forgot to ask. Does your King still fly for KLM occasionally? To keep his licence perhaps?
If I worked as ATC and had a toddler respond from one of the planes I think I'd be freaking out and melting from cuteness simultaneously
The GoPro video is worth looking up.
@@dojoswitzer yep, sure is. She even changes frequencies herself.
@@dojoswitzerwhere
It sounded like a 5 year old. Maybe the private jet captain had his kid in the cockpit with him.😅
@@dannydaw59You think?
I’m a pediatrician and I like most kids more than most adults. This video illustrates why. I took a few flying lessons prior to having to stop due to time and cost. Radio communication was one of the most difficult and scary things for me to do correctly. I know this girl is being prompted by dad but she nails it, and does it with confidence. Nice work (and good on ya dad)!
Now if only her feet could reach the rudder pedals, she'd be all set to go! ;)
Kids are great. No fluff, no beating their chest to prove they are better, just pureness.
I also found the radio hard. Good for Dad giving his wonderful First Officer early practice.
Kids are the best of us - before they get screwed up by all the adult stuff.
I feel the same 'bout my dogs.
Your coffee will be 30 Seconds, Sir, please be advise
WHAAAAAT DO YOU MEAN THIS IS A COMMERCIAL COFFEE HOUSE
Coffee still in brew 30 second out😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
It's one of those touch and go coffee bars. 😳
Lol, as a longtime barista, that has sadly happened to me. But I work at a co-op, so we all own the place & we do not suffer fools.
It’s very refreshing to have the ability to tell rude customers to kick rocks😉
Hey! 730GY flies into my airport quite frequently, and I love hearing the kid on the radio, it's awesome.
Jeez I knew flying a plane and being a pilot was difficult and very complex. But all the things you guys need to consider and be aware of the proper amount of fuel to include to pull back and taxi to the runway, the importance of proper communication with ATC, not to mention the actual flying with the computer inputs and control flaps etc....holy crap thank you men and women who we entrust our lives with. Your appreciated by me even more now and level of respect increased sevenfold
That's why they start so young! 😂
As a dad to young daughters, who teaches them to do some things that a lot of adults have trouble with, that first officer made my freaking day. My eyes aren’t getting leaky, there’s a lot of moisture in the air from this historic SoCal hurricane…
This is weird…never experienced a hurricane with 5mph winds.
@@jefffoy - way to go, Dad! Keep it up!
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@@Cultural_Supremacist We had one small hurricane come in one morning and I assumed work was cancelled for the day. About 10 am, someone called me to ask if I was coming to work. I said something about the hurricane and they told me to look outside.
No wind and not a cloud in the sky. I went to work.
I wonder if, instead of Santa Ana Winds, we should call these Baja Winds? :D
I’d never play you in poker, Kelsey, your ability to keep a straight face is legendary 😂😂
That little girl on the radio made my day too, that was adorable 🥰
Yes, definitely not a FO! That likely was his daughter who he was letting do radio under instruction.
I thought it was great and ATC had worked it out- Ans slowed down!
@@davidwookey3792…Yeah. Not sure how anyone makes it through the video without working that out.
If I remember, she's 2 or 3. She has also landed that Cessna by herself, with Dad ready to take over. She has her own channel, although she may regret that when she gets teen angst.
@@johnhaller5851 She's 7, I believe...her channel's Ruthlessaviatorgirl, but her dad had to take most of the flight videos down because people were freaking out over them because, sadly, the world' has far too many Karens, and far too few Kelseys and Ruthlessaviatorgirl/Dad combos,
She was 6 when those videos were made. In a booster seat. She also programmed the Garmin like a pro and even landed the jet.
Some people who had no clue and too much time on their hands got all upset about it and complained to the FAA I believe. So he took them down.
Way to go for that dad. I don't think Dad's get enough credit sometimes. I have a little girl, and I only pray she can hold her own one day.
With the right parent(s), she will be able to. The sheer fact that you're aware of the potential "because she's female" comments, that will undoubtedly come her way at some point, will help prepare her for it. You'll most likely be training her already without realising it. She's lucky to have such an aware father.
My dad was excellent (so was Mum. She loved that Dad would teach her anything she wanted to learn; that was mainly household and car maintenance - not cleaning, fixing stuff! She came from a very "genteel" home). My elder sisters were born in the mid-late '50s, and I and my youngest sister were born ten years later.
Dad, despite being born in 1927, and growing up in a very "small c" conservative rural area (reluctance to change rather than politics), with 4 brothers (only 2 of whom made it beyond early childhood) and 3 sisters, he was actually taught to do everything his sisters were expected to do, just as were they expected to do "man stuff". To say that was unusual would be my biggest understatement of the year so far!
One thing he made clear to us all was that the only thing men could not do that women can is to be a biological mother and vice versa (he admired single parents of whatever gender, especially when they did a good job, appreciating how damned hard they had to work.) What he meant was that physical inability to accomplish something was our only acceptable "excuse". I could change a 3 pin plug years before I could make toast. (The grill was at the top of the stove and I couldn't see it. We didn't have a toaster!)
Good luck to your little one, but I have good vibes from you!
I just started my private pilot traing and I'm also an engineer with a background in numbers and how things work. Thank you Kelsey. You aviate. You navigate. And here you do a great job of communicating.
Flight training is a commercial use of the field. When I was doing my PP training, my instructor had me working T&Gs on a variety of fields in the area, from 10001 x 150 ft. (GSO) to 2725 x 32 ft. (N63) . Edit: anecdote -- I do remember one time coming in to GSO for a T&G with a crosswind early in training... an American pilot holdinig for me got on the radio and said "more right rudder,"
You hit the nail on the head when you said "don't forget where you came from." I was thinking it and then you said it. We say it all the time when teaching new guys on the team. You have to teach in a humble way because they are you, just 15 years later.
Pilot was probably getting worried that the free buffet at his destination would be shut.
Yeah, either that or he was on a snack run (like Kelsey, maybe he loves the good snacks?).
😊pretty sure he’s flying back to home base for him.
Hey, start em young! The kid was killing it! My son starts College/Flight school tomorrow! I'm excited, he's nervous...and excited! Have a great week everyone!
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I know what it is to be able to help answer people’s questions and then have someone try to discredit you or the information you offer. Keep up the great work. It’s not like you don’t already have enough to do. Thank you. @age 66 and ten years Navy Seabee and other experiences I have held license for heavy equipment, boating, autos, trucks and locomotive engineer. I’m encouraged by your sharing and may look into a private pilot’s license. Thanks again
I love how we have this super adorable video of a kid experiencing such a great moment with her dad, and Kelsey's over here just tearing the kid a new one for using improper phraseology. Never change Kelsey, never change.
The second video was definitely satire. I was a bit worried until he said that “now I don’t know if this FO was busy with her schoolwork” bit. And he even made it more clear with the payment of food and shelter which got a good laugh from me.
But I will say Kelsey wasn’t actually wrong, even if it was all tongue in cheek. Obviously Dad took their kid out for a flight and the kid doesn’t have a license, and they likely stayed in air space near small regional airports. But Dad was preoccupied with making sure the kid said everything right so other pilots could hear, and aside from the one wrong call, the kid wasn’t the clearest with the call sign. But clearly they’re learning and it’s great experience for later in life when they can start learning.
Kelsey, you’re not only a good pilot, you’re a great person!
A gentleman.
Love you Kelsey ❤❤❤❤
Kelsey, that little girl you hear on the radio-she's actually 6 years old and her talking on the radio while sitting in the cockpit is a big part of her dad's YT channel. Wish I could remember the name of the channel. Her father usually flies out of a mid size airport, but sometimes they fly in/out of DFW.
That's what I figured aswell. Sounds like a child, repeating what the captain says. If that's the case, isn't that incredibly unprofessional? In particular at that stage of the flight
@@bobbisen I was surprised when the controllers at DFW were not only okay with it, but it sounded like they looked forward from hearing from the little girl (they've done this more than once). I'm guessing that she's homeschooled because she is in the cockpit quite a bit.
something like 'ruthless'?
Ruthless Aviator Girl
@@jeanfrost5452 he was obviously joking, he must know the channel!
So very unprofessional, I would have been appalled if I was training as heard that on the radio. Thank you Kelsey for all the information love the videos I learn so much. Asa
My son is having flying lessons and is now starting to learn ATC calls (well when the plane isn't broken, subjected to poor weather, having Covid-19 ...) . I arranged a visit to the tower to see the people with whom he will be talking to. It made a world of difference to his confidence.
@RuthlessAviatorGirl is the channel with the little girl and her dad, so cute!
Well played Kelsey, comparing a childish pilot to a more well-behaved child.
Hey Kelsey, I flew home for a family reunion and it was the first time I flew since I found you on RUclips. It has been some 5 years since I last flew..I have flown before...a little nervously..but it was whole different experience this time. From the time I drove into the Long Term Lot at Sac Airport….until the plane landed at O’Hara in Chicago..I was relaxed. And that’s because of you and your channel. All the sounds..sights….movements..etc.. I was able to anticipate..so I just relaxed. One of my highlights was predicting when they would start using their flaps..and I was pretty close!!! Thanks for what you do!!!
I was Madison born and raised, and had my first flight lesson at MSN. (Living in LA now and flying out of WHP.) It's so cool to see my hometown on your channel.
And hilarious commentary on the second piece. I love this channel.
Wisconsin people ARE the nicest! I go to visit family there every year. Id move there but the winters are too much.
Baby boy or girl? did amazing. No inhibition. Good job dad. And you Kelsey are amazing always. Thank you for taking the time to educate us peons, lol.
It’s so heartwarming to hear people being nice and patient to kids like this….now they need to get on that frequency where they make cat noises….
Meow
That first pilot quite obviously did “forget where he came from” He too was doing “touch and go’s” at an airfield where there probably was someone that had to wait a bit. No matter, there’s no need to be a little B. The short fuel window is ALL on him. Great work Kelsey! Thanks for another great video. KTBSU!
The Chief Pilot should have a serious talk with him about preparation and attitude. Would you want to fly on an aircraft where the pilot is that arrogant and unprepared? I wonder how he treats his co-pilots. I suspect, not very well.
Kelsey, a grumpy pilot jealous that he doesn’t have an adorable voice. Your humor is awesome. Always a good day when you drop a video.
I always appreciate Kelsey’s viewpoint in these videos. I want to pursue a career in aviation but currently don’t have a good idea where I want to start, or where I should start. That American pilot at one point was an aspiring pilot just like me, and I’m sure he wouldn’t have appreciated someone talking like that on frequency while he was learning.
Ahh Kelsey thanks for helping us understand what our pilots go through to reach your level 😢😊
Wow, how many people are not going to get that Kelsey knew that was a child and her father (the pilot) on the radio? That whole thing was meant to be funny and man did it fly ✈️ over some people's heads. 😂
I went down the rabbit hole of watching a bunch of their videos. It's a jet, and she actually lands it at least once (obviously with dad very close at hand and ready to take over in case of issue). Very encouraging and fun to watch for a bit!
Yeah, Kelsey just has such great delivery, people don't get it. It was adorable
I’m also wondering how many ATCs are going to tell Kelsey he’s adorable from here on in! 😂
Not a fan of that channel. The kid is cute but the father is very rude to commenters. I hope the kid grows up nicer than him.
My assumption is that this was a little 6-year old. She doesn't sound much older. No way this kid has her own pilotlicense.
Thanks Kelsey. A good reminder that many of us need to work on our patience and curtesy now and then. Keep safe.
"Don't forget where you came from" - well said! That 6 year old talking with ATC was cute. She did a great job.
Thank you, Good Day
Love love love this!!! Capt’n Dad in for the win to melt many hearts! ❤️
That second section was hilarious, Kelsey. Well played, sir!
Probably just Captain Cranky, from the first video, but after he cleared his throat.
sounded like a kid on the radio, so probably P2, and being instructed by Dad, we all got to learn somehow
Paid in ‘food and shelter’ 😂
@@stevem7868-y4l literally everybody here is aware of that…
@@GuardedDragonYou’d think that, but I’ve already found a couple of people who just missed it entirely.
Love that second FO, you better watch yourself Kelsey someone there who is gunning for your job!
Love your perspective here 😂👍🏼 ~ She will make a good pilot.
Kelsey, It was so good to hear about your experience with Henderson. I started my aviation career there, and ended my aviation career there, with some KLAS and VGT in between! It's a small world, I'm pleased to see you've "made it" into the big time. Someday I'll see you in person, and just wave.
Thank you for being an Atlas pilot who isn’t a diva 🤣. I work with a few different cargo carriers and when I’m loading Atlas planes I’ve come to expect divas and am pleasantly surprised when I get cool pilots
That childish pilot makes me hesitant to fly American Airlines. When people get that angry over small things they begin to make mistakes because their mind is distracted from the important stuff at hand. Plus they tend to take actions to show their anger. I am not a physiologist but I am a short tempered person and know what happens. It takes over the mind no mater how good you think you are at multitasking.
Agree with u on that. If he’s taking short cuts now on fuel management on domestic commuter routes ( and “ getting away with it”), doesn’t auger well should his career advance to bigger aircraft a/c, longer routes, more complex flight management decisions
I actually really liked your earlier RUclips videos! I learned a lot! I adore them. You could say they are…adorable.
How does Kelsey do fuel calculation in the hotel without knowing the passengers/loads...empty payload? The child has the clearest voice I heard so far!
I believe the weight of the cargo he will be transporting is provided in advance.
That LOVE Tower is that Citation landing on Runway 13 Left at Dallas Love Field, which I make 4k planespotting videos at. nice to see him post smth about it!
Well said Kelsey! There’s a bunch of our peers in the industry who need to eat a giant humble sandwich and get down from their high horse on legacy captain mountain and remember where they came from. I can’t imagine how everything else in that American flight deck was handled during that whole trip. Sure feel bad for the first officer (just assuming it was the CA who made the comment) but also feel really bad, like you said, for the student pilots who this Captain America tried to belittle. Bravo to the controllers in the tower for making a stand and setting it straight.
Speaking of tantrums, just a couple of days ago there was a pilot taking an axe to the parking gates in Denver because the line leaving the airport was backed up.
"Everyone's forgotten where they started."
You deserve another stripe Captain. I'd fly anywhere anytime on anything with you at the controls
Well done, again.
I love your channel, you have a great voice and pleasant presence like you're not screaming at the camera like some do or trying to be someone you're not it's just genuine and that's why I love your reaction videos 😊 Also you have a great smile!!
The lil girls comprehension of the tower and what her Dad is telling her is incredible!! So smart
There was a piece on BBC News the other day about other drivers hurling abuse at people on their driving lessons. Sad to see the same happens with pilots.
Thank you for always educating us non-flying aviation dorks. Never flew, never will but I appreciate all the information. Be blessed, my man!
Yay-maybe I got to fly with Kelsey when I was traveling for work and he was flying regionals to, apparently, MKE. As a Wisconsinite, I appreciate the kind words about us and the escapism the videos provide since I’m now firmly attached to a patch of land between MKE and MSN because of my critters.
I know exactly where that is!!! I used to live about an hour south of there! My husband is a Wisconsin native, and much of our family is scattered throughout the state.
Thanks for the compliment on our friendliness, Kelsey❤️
MSN is my home field. If you look at the map in the video the lower right is Wisconsin Aviation, a busy flight school and a very busy FBO. The lower left is Air National Guard F-35 and Army Guard Blackhawks. MSN is also an ATC training center for new controllers. The commercial side is growing but most people drive to Milwaukee or Chicago to fly cheaper.
Chances are you’re going to be flying through Chicago out of those 2 airports. Even MKE doesn’t have lots of direct flights.
Really fun commentary Mr. Kelsey, and especially about our young FO.
I used Madison as one of my airports when I did my long cross country before getting my private. It was a good stop and there was plenty of general aviation flying around the airport. Tower was great and helped me navigate to GA to top off the tanks. This "professional pilot" has indeed forgotten that we all play in the same sandbox, whether we fly at 3,500' or 35,000'. I am, however, surprised that someone didn't key their mic and say, "waaaaaaaaah". (I probably would not do that, but it would cross my mind!)
Now I have to wonder if the person on the mic doesn't identify themself, can anyone tell who sent the message?
Thank you for a great satirical sense of humour. Fabulous channel. It's a serious subject but you find the gaps to make us laugh! You're good at what you do mate so keep it going
Kelsey, there is a dad with his daughter of about an age of 6 or 7 posting videos with them together in a private jet and she is doing some of the cockpit work under his supervision and how she is doing it is amazingly. You may watch this. I can imagine, getting used to all this in the cockpit from this age on is not a bad idea of the father which brings her tightly into the aviation world.
Hope my words are making sense. I'm German.
You always continue to come across as a really nice guy and I am sure you are. When you said, "remember where you came from", I always think that when drivers hoot learner drivers. Great channel and great vids always. Thank you.
I am so glad that was your take on the airline pilot’s attitude. 40 years ago, I was taking off from a field much like this one. While taxiing to the runway, the tower called and requested I pull off to the side, at the threshold, to do my run up so the airliner behind me could go around and take off first. I looked behind me to see a 727. Airlines and private planes are on different frequencies, so I had no idea he was going to be there. I did not want to pull off because if the 727 cut inside me at the turn on to the runway, the jet blast could flip me over. So, as I taxied, I did everything on the check list so the only thing to do at the threshold was check the mags and set the mixture. As I raced through that, I glanced over my shoulder to see the 727 trying to violently maneuver around me. So violently the wings were rocking up and down. It's a sight will never forget. Apparently, the pilot was not happy with me. But I was done, so I reached up to pull the throttle back and tell the tower I was ready (by the way we were going to be using different runways). But I was so flustered I pull the mixture back instead, killing the engine and making it necessary to do it all again! That memory has haunted me all these years. Was that two minutes really that important the airline pilot? Did the airline pilot really have that much distain for private pilots?
Just pull over and let more important traffic pass.
Around 20 years ago, I was in a C152 at an international Airport, and a small regional jet pulled out on the taxiway in front of us (before calling for taxi clearance.)
We nearly did an involuntary take-off in his jet blast.
Small planes don't like taxiing behind jets for a reason.
In our case, ATC wasn't happy with them, and made them return to the terminal and sit in the corner for a time-out.
Man child vs. Ruthless Aviator Girl....love it! Kelsey your facial expressions while watching these videos were 'adorable' 😊
I was so upset that people attacked Ruthless Aviator Girl and forced them to remove many of their videos.
“Stop going upside down Kelsey” LMFAO
Kelsey, you and Airforceproud95 are two of my favorite RUclipsrs! Keep up the great work!
Love the videos so much as a student pilot Kelsey. Really showing people how to keep it professional and safe but we can still enjoy it. Thank you
I learned to fly in a Cessna 150 N50354 at Mayport Naval Flying club. Virtually no ATC except in military emergencies needing to land on a short runway with arresting cables on both ends. One day after my solo at 8 hours, I was performing multiple touch-and-go landings, when I heard a blaring ATC transmission in the speaker above my left ear to immediately climb out to 4500' for an incoming emergency landing. I performed that perfectly and was impressed with myself until I looked back and saw that Navy fighter effortlessly catch the first cable and come to a stop in a 25 knot crosswind off the sea. Wow! Those guys were good. Id say guys and gals but the gals didnt come until decades later.
Surprised this AA pilot lets others share HIS airspace.
imagine being assigned to him as copilot.
He’s a god…in his mind
Kelsey your sarcasm is so good if I didn’t know any better I’d think your were British 😂
That's what I thought when I discovered the channel! 😅
Holy cow Kelsey, I got my private certificate out of Henderson executive airport as well. Small world! It was back in the late 90s when I was going there. My flight instructor was an older gentlemen named Chuck, he was a hell of a guy. I heard he passed on this past July. They don't make them like him anymore. I don't fly anymore med certificate pulled due to an irregular heartbeat but I have a lot of great memories from my experiences while flying.
Regarding the first clip, my best guess is that this pilot doesn't want to be embarrassed by having to explain to his passengers why they are returning for more fuel.
The last clip is just adorable. You could just _hear_ the smile in the controller's voice, and you knew that hearing that young voice on the radio just made her day. Odds are that she was just a little more patient with everyone all day, and this made the day better for everyone else. All because a child was calling radio calls.
Also relevant, MSN has an Air National Guard unit flying F-16s. F-16 units do missed approach training and pattern work almost daily. If these pilots have any familiarity with MSN at all, they should know to plan and prepare for ground holds for that fact alone
As my instructor said to me once, they all had to learn sometime.
I taught arts & crafts, I had to say almost daily (when my students found something too intimidating or difficult) that I wasnt born like this, I had to learn everything from the start too. If I can do something, anyone can. And theres no shame in being a rookie, that means youre one mean learning machine right now!
Wow, that pilots chief pilot needs to give him an interview without coffee.
1. We currently have a major pilot shortage!
2. Unless we train new pilots, 1. will get worse.
3. Being an arrogant plank driver, does not make you important.
Great job from the controller. Hopefully he submitted a CADOR on that pilot!
That did not sound like a first officer.
I think this was a single pilot operation, Dad was teaching his child to work the radio. Kid did a nice job repeating what he or she was told.
As a trainee radio tech at a small international airport, one of the best exercises was pretending we were in a car driving to the equipment building, needing to cross the runway or taxiways. Our instructor played the role of the ground controller.
A few hours of that and we felt confident enough to do the radio calls when accompanying a qualified tech on a job across the runway.
Same for having to call up ATC to test operational channels to identify a fault or after repair.
Aw, I'm sure some of us have called you adorable a time or two? I know I have 😂 Great video again, I always like to hear the grumpy gits that are caught on the radio. Glad that controller owned him in front of the students.
Sush! 🤫Don't tell him! 😉😄
@@cedricporter3993oops 😅
Kelsey is THE best! I am absolutely terrified of flying-but love his videos!
What a great role model you are to new young pilots, and I bet you are even respectful to the teenage grocery stores clerks!
Why wouldn't you be respectful to clerks?
@@deth3021 If only everyone had that response to the comment! People are so abusive of sales staff.
@seattlegirl2077 if I'm going to abuse someone, I'm not going to waste it on a nobody, I'll save my abuse for the people in charge.
@@deth3021 I'm not a teenage cashier, but I wish everyone who visits the deli where I work thought the way you do.
@@mbvoelker8448 it's a life hack kinda.
Treat the nobodies well, as they will treat you better, as you will be rare for them.
As a Retired AA Captain , on MD80, DC10 767/757 and fling747-40O for SIA , my experience was “release fuel” the system accurately calculated for RWY in use and average taxi fuel for that time of day at that airport . All my dispatchers had us landing with some typical for that airplane fuel pulling into the gate . You’re RIGHT , with 4 Cessnas , easy to taxi out in one engine . AA has a BIG cultural difference between levels of professionalism of EAGLE regional dudes , and mainline new hires .
I recently discovered your Channel. I’m a 56 Year-Old English Woman who was unaware that Flying was an interest of mine but since finding you I’ve developed a keen interest. Thank you for your amazing content