The team is not just the crew on the aircraft - it's alll of you on the griund, especially the forefighter who train and hop to never have to use that training in a majot incident. Communication is key and saves lives. Al the best to you and your colleagues at airports worldwide. Unsung heros, all.
In the 1980's, I worked at an international airport that was shared with the FAA and the Air National Guard as a fire fighter. I was surprised that the tower didn't declare an Alert II when they spotted the fire and possibly an Alert III since the plane was on the ground. And maybe they did and I just couldn't hear it on that frequency. But that would have removed all worries about passengers on the ground. And maybe they did declare the alert and it just took a few seconds for all the controllers to hear that an alert was declared and to start following their procedure and order the go around. Back in the 1980's either alert would have closed the airport so that emergency vehicles can cross any runway or taxis as needed. The Operation manager might declare the airport re-open once verifying no FOD or anything else on the runways while we were still on the field but maybe things have changed since then. Once the airport was re-open we would have to be in contact with ground control if we were having to cross runways to get back to the station. Also, we appreciate communications directly with the captains too. The captains also like having trained eyes on the plane once they get it on the ground because they really can't see what is going on outside or under their aircraft until they get out.
When Qantas 32 was being deplaned, the passengers were instructed not to take their luggage with them as they were exiting the plane. One passenger tried to take his bag with him, and the flight attendant told him he couldn't do that. The passenger then told him "I already have my bag with me, so what are you going to do about it." The flight attendant grabbed the bag, threw it across the other side of the plane, and told him to get off. Nobody brought their bags with them after that.
On another Qantas evacuation, with a brake fire (with communications lost with the engineers on the ground), the F/O went down the slide with a fire extinguisher in his hands. He overbalanced (probably because of the fire extinquisher) and broke a limb. I can't remember if it was a leg or arm. That's another reason not to carry something.
A word to leaving bags: Don't even grab them, not if it's in the seat in front of you or in the overhead. If it's that important to you, have it in a pocket on your body. If a plane is on fire and it's serious, you're most likely to die from smoke inhalation. Mere seconds can mean the difference between life or death and if you're unfortunate enough to be way down the line closer to the fire, every second a passenger takes to get a bag or go in the overhead might mean someone's life closer to the smoke/fire. If you have a backpack, you might think there's no harm but that backpack is now a gap between you and the person behind you. No joke, that's keeping other passengers closer to danger, it's a slide puncture hazard and it's likely going to be ordered off your body before you evacuate. Don't do it! Your life is more important than your laptop and so are the lives of everyone else.
Very true. I'm pretty attached to my Surface Pro but it's not worth someone being maimed for life. Anyone caught on the slide holding an object that isn't a lifeform should be no-flied between 10 years and eternity.
@@avengingmime There are a few videos on YT with emergency evacuations where the plane is on fire and you can see (from the interior) people going for the overheads and (from the exterior) people coming out with carry-ons and roll-aboards. In many of these instances people died closer to the fire. I get that in panic situations people who aren't trained how to behave in an emergency don't often act rationally but a little pre-mediated thought about what you'd do in that type of a situation can go a long way in saving someone else's life. My "stuff" just isn't worth it.
@wizardmix Id like to add to this, when on a plane, if you have life saving or urgently needed medication put it in a pocket on your body - do not leave it in your carry on bag. In case of evacuation, you will not need to worry about it that way. I have medication like that and I always make sure its on my person while on a plane not in my carry on.
I probably wouldn't take the time to get an overhead bag in an emergency, but I'd grab a bag in front of me under a seat. I carry medical supplies with me so I might need these.
Kelsey, thanks for the shout out for the flight attendants. I wish more people realized that they are far more than glorified waiters. This video neatly shows how so many people, ATC, ground controllers, emergency personnel, pilots and flight attendants all bring their specialized training to work professionally in an emergency. Kudos, too, to the passengers who kept cool heads and aided in the evacuation. I'll bet that once the adrenanalin rush wore off for all involved there were more than a few rubbery legs.
@@THErealOGse I'm pretty sure it was certainly a different trip back to the hotel, with a story to tell the rest of their career. It's not like it was a raging fire right outside the windows. I would have liked to have heard the captain's announcement to the passengers. Pretty sure he was calm and reassuring. A good time was had by all!
While it’s of course true. The Flight attendants are very important. I suspect Kelsey also has in mind “keep FA happy with me they will make sure he gets the good snacks”
I'm thinking the FA's aren't getting enough credit. The Passengers are : Not panicked - Organized- Methodical - Obviously informed - Calm enough to help each other. It looks like the work of a great crew.
I feel like they got lucky with their load of passengers as well, a load of people who actually have brains in their heads. You don't see that in most people anymore.
I would think the people helping off the end of the slide are the ones who were sitting in the emergency exit row and were instructed to do that task. They always ask if you're fit and able to help in an emergency before takeoff.
3:47 When the controller said to "number 1 main gear" rather than "number 1 tire", I suspect she was referring to the entire gear assembly as a whole, "number 1" referencing the left side of the aircraft and not to the number 1 tire - as she was likely too far away to make out individual tires that clearly.
I agree. When I was ground crew we were trained to count the engines and main gear from left (captain side) to right. The furthest left main gear assembly and engine would be number 1, then 2, 3, 4. I suspect the tower controller may have been trained the same way.
I honestly think the Hudson river landing is what has encouraged so many passengers to be civil and understanding during aircraft evacuations. It was a real life situation where people saw that if they worked together there was a huge chance of succeeding.
Kelsey you did a phenomenal job explaining everything here. Your best video yet! Thank you for always showing gratitude to the entire crew, including the flight attendants. Having trained as one long ago, I appreciate you reminding the public that their #1 purpose is for safety & that they are well trained & very assertive in emergencies! It looked very well organized. Great to see.
Thanks for giving flight attendants their credit. They catch so much grief from uncooperative passengers who are unaware that their job is safety first and coffee service is just extra.
@@ravipratik3305 Nah, she hates airplanes 🙃 Clearly, the ATC person on Tower duty that day likes aircraft enough to make their job related to aircraft. I think that only a truly irrational person would both dislike aircraft and seek to become an Air Traffic Controller. It's as implausible as an auto mechanic that doesn't like cars, you know what I mean? The job doesn't pay nearly well enough to attract people that don't have some form of passion for the subject matter in both cases. In any case, the situation is likely exactly as the thread starter indicated, the ATC was referring to "number 1 gear" as in "on the same side as the number 1 engine".
OK ... now lets try the same evacuation on a Frontier or Jet-Blue flight. Many on those flights just AIN'T getting off the airplane without their carry ons.
@@oddshot60 Not that many people listen to the safety announcements on any airline as much as they should. I feel that they should mention some of the reasonings behind these rules such as leaving your luggage behind to not only make it quicker but to Kelsey's point not damage the slides.
One major thing I learned in your videos is that I now always keep my passport in my pants pocket rather than the bag, since in the case of an emergency I couldn't take the bag with me, but it's critical to have the passport in a foreign country.
The controller was totally on it. In a split second she realized that the runway wasn't clear to land and she directed the landing plane to go around all the time dealing with all of the emergency vehicle coordination. Amazing work.
That or her supervisor was like “uh Kim, they’re evacuating on that side that you cleared the other plane for” and she was like “oh shoot” and quickly said to go around.
I live in the Atlanta area. This is my "home" airport. Your video about this emergency instills additional confidence about the competence & professionalism present in this facility. Kudos to all involved. Thx, Kelsey.
Everyone I have ever dealt with at ATL, has been amazing. Great staff, great gate agents, great air crews. This video shows how solid their tower is, and I really appreciate that. That doesn't mean I don't absolutely loathe that airport, heh. (I spent several years going to DragonCon flying in and out of ATL. After a couple years of that, I just decided to start driving from Maryland down to the convention.)
@@Tirani2 I only flew into ATL on two occasions in my life, but I'll never forget the time that was in the daylight, how I could look out my window and see planes that didn't seem all that far away, paralleling mine! I knew they had to be far enough away for safety, but it surprised me. Every plane was flying just as steadily as could be and I was impressed. My husband, now retired was a helicopter pilot for a little over 52 years and I got to ride with him several times. I remember being so proud of him when I would see him in the front, flying the chopper. Both his mom and I got to ride with him together on one of her visits and she never stopped talking about it. She was a lot of fun to be with and such a good sport about things. I still miss you, Mom. 🥰❤
I want to say seeing real life emergency evacuations gives me a lot more hope for humanity. Many people would assume that everyone would instinctually panic and climb over eachother to escape, but from the handful of real world emergency evacs I’ve seen videos of, passengers actually tend to remain calm and cooperate to help eachother exit, in land and water situations. I fly a lot but have a lot of anxiety about crashing, so knowing that the information we’re given preflight genuinely works to keep passengers calm and focused is extremely comforting. We can’t control certain things, but we can control how we react to them ❤
If there is fire in the cabin there is a much higher level of panic. This caused deaths on one flight where there was a cabin fire and people were climbing over the seats and too many were trying to cram their way past the section dividers. The outcome of that was to widen the passage between the sections by several inches so they wouldn't get jammed up as easily. This was tested by promising thousands of dollars to the first several off the plane during a test evacuation (using greed instead of panic as the motivation to be first off).
The execution was beautiful and timed perfectly from all ends. The Captain was calm and communicative to ATC, ATC showed situational awareness when spotting fire from both gears and instructing Delta 1576 to go around from 9R, and the passengers listening to the crew instructions by evacuating the aircraft without bringing their luggage as well as the passengers helping the others out of the slide. The best example of Teamwork and Safely.
I'm glad people are no longer told to remove their shoes when going down the slide - that was the most stupid thing ever. They just needed to make the slides tougher, and apparently they did.
Thank you, i am thanking you as a Chief Cabin Attendant now retired. It is always appreciated when somebody, you in this case, give us the right value. When i heard people saying we were just waitress at the beginning I got angry and spoke on the name of my Category… than I just started ignore. We and the Cockipit, each one with their roles , had to work as a team. And I met wonderful people on my job!
I always have so much appreciation for the flight attendants on my plane, shout out to Bianca from EasyJet who was the sweetest, loveliest I’ve ever met and made me thoroughly enjoy my recent flight to Sardinia!
If you didn't actually know this was a real evacuation, it could easily be mistaken as a training session. I'm in awe with how calm the pilot was. So many people have the "it's never going to happen to me" attitude with health and safety related issues but its safe to say, the pilots, flight attendants, fire crew and ATC emergency situation training all came into use. Would have been made so much easier by the passengers listening and cooperating with the attendants too. Well done to everyone ❤
Gotta love how Kelsey acknowledges everybody´s professional behaviour: the pilots, the FA´s, the ATC´s AND the passenger´s. I am quite convinced that the passengers beeing calm and well behaved might have been due to a calm an professional announcement and attitude by the captain. This than is reflected by the crew and the passengers.
I always appreciate Kelsey's presentations that have just the right amount of humor and are quite informative. He highlights some of the very competent and professionals in who we put our trust.
This A.T.C and everyone else involved were very professional in handling the situation, But what else can you expect from workers at what's known as the worlds busiest airport. Great job Atlanta, nothing but love and total respect for them all.
Excellent video. You can obviously see that all of the training flight crews have to go through has paid off in this scenario. The professionalism of the entire flight crew is quite evident. Kudos to the crew for getting folks safely off the plane. The controller also should be recognized. She clearly seemed calm during this stressful event, yet was able to get emergency services coordinated while dealing with the emergency situation as well as still doing her day-to-day task of getting planes on and off the ground. There are so many opportunities for things to go very wrong during this emergency situation yet everything went well. It all goes back to the training and professionalism of all involved.
Thanks Kelsey for stressing the point of leaving luggage in an evacuation. As a flight attendant myself I appreciate it. Also as a retired firefighter and amateur pilot I found this video video extremely interesting.😅
It's probably important to keep in mind that people evacuating here may not have been that concerned about their luggage and belongings because the situation wasn't critically life threatening. There were not flames flowing through the cabin, people were not choking on smoke, and the problem was very external to the cabin. It seems to me that passengers would be more likely to try to cling to their belongings if they're convinced they won't see them again, such as if the plane is in immediate danger of exploding or being consumed by fire.
I give flight attendants the same courtesy and respect as I do the people flying the plane because they're officers of the flight, too, and they're ensuring a safe and comfortable flight. It bothers me that people do not give them - or even the opportunity of flight, period - the same courtesy and respect. Then again, I still fly dressed properly in a blazer, and some treat it like they're still in their living room. Nothing's like it was. Great video.
My motto has always been, keep focused-you're not dead yet. As Kelsey says , it shows there's hope for humanity. As long the plane doesn't go up in flames, you'll get your stuff. If it does, well, weren't you lucky. I'd love to hear what Stella would have to say on this.
A great synopsis Kelsey, as a retired FA in UK we were authorised to evacuate an aircraft before the flight deck crew did if the aircraft was known to be on fire or if we knew the aircraft had broken up. In addition if we had pax standing at the doorway refusing to jump we were authorised to push them or kick the back of their knees in order for them to jump onto the emergency slide. Out of interest the UK industry standard is that an aircraft should be evacuated within 90 seconds using one side of the aircraft only. This Delta crew did a great job all round I applaud them for their actions.
It's amazing how this story of a plane on fire can increase my confidence in commercial aviation. You and Petter have done a great job in helping me fight my fear of flying.
You are awesome about giving credit to the flight attendants. The general public needs to know that the primary objective of the flight attendants is safety of the passengers. They act directly on the orders of the captain. Also, they don't get paid until the doors are closed. So, if they help with luggage in the cabin, they're doing that by helping clear the aisle and also to just be a nice person and a good reflection on their company. Flight attendants rock.
A misconception that flight attendants “act directly on the orders of the captain”. Flight attendants are trained to act, with or without captains instructions. Best case scenario the flight deck gives instruction on events taking place.
Captain sounded totally chilled throughout, kudos for that. Controller sounded a little nervous, but not at all surprised and she did great too. Glad it all turned out safely for all involved. Oh and the other thing about the slide was that everyone looked utterly calm too.
Great video, Kelsey!! This incident was perfectly orchestrated by all involved, especially the captain. This should be used as a training incident for how to deal with this type of situation at a very busy airport.
Very impressive to see everyone from the Captain, FAs, to the tower, getting organized very quickly. I know a couple of career FAs....and they are serious about safety and emergency protocols. I have a lot of respect for them.
The evacuation procedures are learned by the flight attendants in training. The evac drills...such as leaving luggage behind, choosing able bodied persons to assist on the ground. And relearned during mandatory annual recurrent training. And it is team work all the way. So shout out to all the flight attendants out there! And of course the flight deck. Staying calm and making those decisions that affect everyone.
@@North_West1 I hate when I've seen the videos where people are having tantrums when they are asked to co-operate with the rules. The rules are there to protect everyone concerned. There are so many self-absorbed brats around these days. :(
HAVING SCHEDULED AND WORKED CLOSELY WITH F/As and their management staff for a number of years, I have the utmost respect for these women and men and for their level of training and professionalism. Vital members of a flight crew, their first responsibility is for the safety of the passengers. Next time you folks fly, remember that and thank them for the job they do.
Respect & kudos to all Flight Attendants. 90% of their job is serving us food & drinks but they're the ones who are going to save us when things go seriously sideways in a very bad way. When you mentioned evacuating onto a live runway, it reminded me of Air France flight 358, an A340 that overran 24L at YYZ. There were no fatalities due to the Flight Attendants' training. When the fire was out, there was almost nothing left of the aircraft. Some of the passengers and crew ended up on Highway 401 (parallel to the runway) one of the busiest highways in North America, getting assistance from passing motorists.
There is also some ATC audio of the BA38 crash, with all the calls the air traffic controller made for that one. That one had a dual engine failure when approaching Heathrow, and ended up crashing on the runway. Everyone (including ATC) reacted super quick, and you can actually hear the workload of the controller spiking super quick, coordinating with everyone around. I'll leave a link in a reply to this, but youtube will probably swallow it.
> youtube will probably swallow it. Assuming you did reply to yourself, it sure did. Would be better if you post the title so people can look it up themselves?
I've been shocked the times I saw evacuation videos where people clog the aisles trying to get their stuff to take off the plane. I was sitting here panicking because of that and I was home, sitting in my chair at my computer and I was yelling at the people to never mind their stuff! Just get off the plane alive!!!
No Indian passengers. Besides, I always have my passport and money on my person. So what if you lose a change of underwear or your laptop -the insurance company will replace it with new stuff.
Hey wanted to point out that wind was blowing 180, so right side evac on 9L would be the windward side, so the fire would be blown away from the pax in the grass.
Hi Kelsey thanks for another great video and explanation , as a retired ARFF of 25 years at international airport very impressed with all involved , great job by aircraft commander , and good on your for recognising the cabin crew / flight attendants , totally agree with you about the work load of the tower controller , I think she did a great job ..
That captain is cool as a cucumber and a true leader for staying until the end and making sure atc knew he was the last one and was leaving. Those passengers staying behind to catch people and help them up from the slide really warms my heart. That's how it should be.
It's the Captains's job to remain calm and make sure all goes well. He doesn't want anyone to panic and die because of it and he has to maintain being able to think on his feet, which is what this Captain did beautifully. I have the utmost respect for the Captain and his crew in this video and the passengers. And he was so appreciative toward the Air Traffic Controller for all she did and how she had kept in communication so well.
I was once on a plane that circcled the airport for a very long time. I remember thinking it was strange that we were circling so long, and thinking, "Gosh, this airport must be busy." And after circling for a bit I started to worry about not making it to my connecting flight on time. After circling for about 20 minutes from when I noticed we were circling (we could have been circling longer, but as I said from when I noticed) I was starting to feel really concerned and was telling myself to not get upset, and was holding back feelings of being upset. We finally landed about 15 minutes late or so for my connecting flight, and I was feeling very stressed, figuring I had missed my connecting flight and would have to deal with all that nonsense that goes along with missing a connecting flight, but when I checked the board I saw my connecting flight and many other flights were delayed. - Watching this, I now realize/suspect, there must have been an emergancy at the airport that delayed everything. I was able to make my connecting flight, because it was behind schedule... along with a bunch of other planes. I can't recall the exact date, but I know the aiport and could probably figure out the date... I wonder now what happened that day to delay practically all (if not all) flights.
There should be better communication with the passengers in cases like that. I was on a flight that was delayed and they let us know before we reached the gate that our connecting flight was being held and we had 15 minutes to get across the airport and board. Unfortunately I think that extra time put that flight crew over hours as once we got there we were informed that they had to bring in a new flight crew and ended up waiting another 90 minutes. But keeping the passengers informed goes a long way towards reducing stress and making everyone's experience better. It's a lot easier to forgive inconveniences when you know the airline is dealing with problems and trying to make sure everyone is taken care of.
@@roberteltze4850 Every time I had to fly ORD>CLT one summer, my arrivals were delayed due to lightning at CLT, and every time, I was advised to hustle over to my connecting flight to ILM because it was preparing to depart. That usually required walking from B13 to E36, just under 3/4 mile. The first time, I arrived out of breath, and the agent told me that due to the lightning, my connection was going to board for another 30 minutes. The next time, I arrived and the plane was there, but up on jacks with no nose wheel. The mechanics arrived--with the wrong replacement wheel. Took them another 45 minutes to get the right one because they had to cross the active runway to do that. The next time, I just took my sweet time, boarded the connecting flight a bit late, then sat on the tarmac for 30 minutes after another ground stop due to lightning. Never made sense to me how some airlines' internal comms could be so poor.
Besides the aircraft emergency situation, there are other factors that can do exactly the same thing. The first one that comes to mind is adverse weather events. Snow, rain, thunderstorms, and the like can all shut down an entire airport for hours at a time, and yet they usually are able to resume operations at least by the next day at worst (with exceptions (as in longer delays) being made for things like being directly in the path of a hurricane or tornado, or subjected to an earthquake, of course).
@@roberteltze4850While I agree with you and suspect you are probably not one of these people, most people don’t listen to, understand, or comply with most announcements in the plane or airport.
@roberteltze4850 If it's due to an emergency in progress on the ground or another airplane still in the air, they absolutely should NOT inform the passengers of ANY of that! That's a guaranteed way to absolutely panic the crap out of lots of people already stressed from flight travel and being crammed together around strangers. Not a good idea!
I appreciate the work you put in to recreate those incidents in flight simulator like here, or in overhead plans with the planes put there for us to see. That is not simple and a lot more work than it seems.
1) In order to be certified by the FAA the aircraft must be able to be evacuated with half the exits blocked in under 90 seconds. I know this because I went through the certification of the Boeing 747SP 2) Unless it's changed, those evacuation slides are NOT Waterworld! They're rough, almost like sandpaper 3) Cabin crew doesn't scream, that would induce panic. They YELL GET OUT, and push you out the door.
sounded like the captain originally heard number 1, and correctly interpreted the later "right gear" as being incorrectly identified, with the logic that the tower would otherwise have said "both main gear on fire" also, my thinking on the evacuation would be that the first passengers out would be directed to assist other passengers, and take responsibility for calling later passengers to a safe assembly place. also, people should consider the soles of their shoes. it's another good reason to wear utilitarian shoes when flying - imagine what a stiletto heel would do on that escape slide.
There is a reason why you have more than 1 million subscribers. Props to you. If you ever have a few days layover in the Philippines I would love to have a couple beers with you and have you share some of your experiences with me.
Not a frequent flier, but I manage to get from point A to point B without much difficulty. I’m disabled - just a slow mover. So glad you make a point of leaving luggage/carry on on board. A few years ago, there was a plane emergency and passengers complained about having to wait to evacuate until some got their bags! I was a firefighter for 20 years; fire moves quickly. Bags be damned! Stay safe, keep up the good work here.
As a youtuber, I can say that captain pilot did a good job 😅 But in all seriousness, it's great to hear how professional everyone was. It kinda hits you in the gut when you realize the captain is still in the chair giving updates and making sure everyone is out, before he finally evacuates.
Awesome video, Kelsey! Incredible work by everyone... captain, first officer, the cabin crew AND the passengers. I agree with a lot of the other comments... not enough credit goes to the flight attendants. Their primary job is to keep everyone safe. If everything is going well, then can take time to try and serve you drinks and cookies (or whatever). But they are NOT glorifed waiters... they are highly trained professionals who are there for your safety.
I like the guy walking out from the plane with hands in pockets :D That tells a lot about how passangers were informed. Great job by everybody involved. Thank you Kelsey I like those "this is what you should expect when this happens" :)
Thank you Cpt. Kelsey.... I come to you as a nervous flier. Seeing videos like this is my greatest fear🙏 the worst I've experienced was extreme turbulence that sent my anxiety another 1000ft. I ALWAYS make sure to thank everyone because they are ALL super heroes of the skies. I'm glad that everyone was safe, and that everyone helped make this an effortless evacuation.
It was far from effortless. Yet, it looked that way, due to the pilots & crew doing their jobs superbly and clearly communicating to their passengers, like Kelsey stated. Thanks Kelsey.
@@AndreasS.-mh8ti I know it's FFFFAAARRRR from effortless. Had a family member who was a flight attendant for 25yrs and she would tell us the stories. I watch him and The Mentor Pilot. They truly have helped me as far as flying.
Kelsey what would happen to any pets in the cargo hold during an emergency like this? Would the captain know if there are pets and notify the emergency crews?
I noticed one thing that was mentioned in a video I saw about "realistic air traffic": The pilots sound bored (or rather preoccupied). The idea was that you are not _only_ talking on the radio, you are doing other things as well, such as nothing writing down instructions. Clear, concise and professional.
A great example of how things go RIGHT after something's gone wrong. Nice background explanation of all the 'stuff' that is suddenly happening there, Kelsey. Thanks!
Kelsey,, thank you for taking the time to do this video. I love hearing the point of view of other pilots on plane emergencies, it gives peoples a professional point of view discussing real events and steps taken to rectify those issues!
You saying "wasn't a pants on fire emergency" reminded me of something interesting: If you're wearing synthetic fabrics and you go down an airliner escape slide, those synthetic fabrics might melt from the heat of friction on the escape slide. It's not a good idea to wear pantyhose on an aircraft for that reason, same with any synthetic fabric, even blends. That slide is designed to dissipate energy as you go down it so it's not supposed to be slippery. Thanks to it not being slippery, the energy has to go somewhere, and the only place for it to go is heat energy. And no, they can't make the slide more slippery either. If it was any more slippery, you'd go flying off the end of it and on to the hard tarmac, and I don't like being presented with that possibility when I might have been woken unexpectedly from a nap I was having while on the flight, to the sound of flight attendants delivering emergency procedure briefings.
@@44R0NdinGood advice. Also, hose and other synthetics will melt rapidly and stick to your skin if you have to run through flames. I looked all over my 10-9 pages and can’t find the word “tarmac” anywhere. What is that?
@@richwightman3044 Tarmac is the asphalt or concrete paving material making the major surfaces of an airport intended for aircraft to taxi on, land, or take off from. So basically it covers both the taxiways and the runways without having to specify which material they're made of... or at least that's the definition that's in my head.
@44R0Ndin Hopefully concrete at least on the apron; otherwise on hot days the pushback driver is trying to ease the nosegear out of its little divot in the asphalt and cringing at the thought of possibly having knocked a poor FA off their feet during the safety briefing. I was SO happy when our ramp in Albany finally got concreted. No more trying to "gently" rock planes out of the tar! Still froze to the pavement in the evil upstate winter though...
Great video, I look forward to seeing every one of them you make. Thank you, Kelsey. Many moons ago I was a Range Control Officer in Avon Park Florida in the Air Force. When working the main tower all we dealt with were in flight emergencies since that was the only real reason we had a runway, This was back in the early 1980's. We controlled all military flights in and out and while on the ranges, had a hotline to Miami Center for clearances and such. We had to know quite a bit about each aircraft for various reasons, chemicals on board for weapons systems and so on. And most of the pilots were students but they always handled things well as far as I was concerned. I miss those days a lot. Especially when up in the tower on the actual range getting a good "Door Check" from a F4 Phantom. Older pilots will know what I mean.
Might not need to be a pilot to get that reference, F4's are particularly loud jets, and if you have a door open in the tower you'll learn about it very quickly when an F-4 does a low pass at high speed (particularly in afterburner). I think that's what a "Door check" is in any case, did I get it right?
In the old old days the bombers used to fly over the range tower to make sure the doors were closed before they proceeded back to base. They would fly very low passes. The range controller would look up and let them know. And yes, The phantom II would give us full after burners. Same with the F16 falcon. We had a catwalk around the outside at the top of the tower.
Seems like she's saying the #1 GEAR is on fire, not the #1 tire. Not sure if the gear sets are referred to this way, but I think that's what she meant.
Hi Kelsey The ATC Controller did a fantastic job under a lot of pressure as did the Captain. I know Nautical terms are used a lot in the Aviation industry so I was surprised that instead of saying Left & Right she didn't say Port or Starboard because this would have made it crystal clear to exactly what side the fire was on regardless of Hers or the Captains orientation or visual perspective. Fortunately the correct side was chosen to disembark the Passengers BUT in the confusion a simple unintentional misdirection could have had more serious consequences. Everyone from the Cabin Crew the Flight Crew and ATC acted in an excellent and professional manner and if Port or Starboard are not usual ATC jargon then the Controller said what she could see and relayed it to the crew in that way under a great deal of pressure, and made vital decisions that averted any potential harm to passengers who had evacuated near the adjacent active runway, What a Legend!
This was a great video. It tied everything together & highlighted the key moments. I really appreciated the comments re the flight attendants. It makes me really angry when I hear about those professionals having to take the brunt of crap from horrible passengers. They really need to be better recognized and supported by the airlines and government. Thank you for doing what you can in that regard.
Great channel, great work K, the captain of this plane is just like Sully. These two pilots are the type that we all hope will be flying any plane we are on. Cool, calm and collected. Awesome job by everyone in the video. Captain, flight attendant’s as well as the passengers. It always has and always will start at the top. You really have to hand it to the flight attendants though, they are the reason for the e-vac going incredibly smooth. Awesome leadership and awesome crew. People need strong and confident leadership in times such as this and the performance of this crew was exemplary.
Wow, that was an awesome video Kelsey! As someone who has a big anxiety when flying, I need those stories and I need to have a big trust into the flight crew. It's the only thing that makes to board that plane (and your channel, of course) :)
So much respect for everyone involved here. The captain showed some stunning leadership and decisiveness, ATC was extremely adaptive and methodical with everything going on, and even the plane landing did a great job remaining alert and following instructions. Teamwork at its finest, amazing to see.
I love your closing comment "there is still a glimmer of humanity out there". This is not a political channel (thank goodness) but we now have two major wars going on, so it's great to remind ourselves that us ordinary folk behave decently. Many thanks for these videos. Russ (England).
It’s just occurred to me: anybody who was traveling with a pet and left it behind…the captain told the firefighters “everybody” was off. So if the firefighters decide it’s a write off, nobody’s going back for those pets. If I have a pet in a carrier under the seat and it’s a situation like this, she’s coming with me. (Maybe out of the carrier, but she’s probably safer in there.) I’m not trusting fate with my baby. (Of course I’d be considerate of other passengers and mindful not to damage the slide by hugging the carrier to my body.) One more note - of course if it’s pet lives versus human lives, human lives have to win out. I’m just fessing up that I’m in this Particular situation I’d be skeptical that trade off really existed. I’d wager I could get my dog off with minimal risk to other humans, but if I left her behind and the fire spread, there’s a high degree of risk to her.
This was a very controlled team effort. Passengers, I am sure, are pretty terrified because they don't have access to the real information. It has always amazed me how flight attendants can remain so calm and competent during an emergency. They are the ones who have to calm the passengers down and make sure evaluations are done in an orderly fashion if possible. As you can see everyone was getting out safely with no one trying to push people aside. Kudos also to the passengers seated by the escape doors who I am sure helped out quite a bit. Great video, Kelsey👏
Thanks, Kelsey, for your generous reassurance that there's still a glimmer of hope for humanity. Whenever we have our doubts about that, we watch one of your videos and get our spirits lifted. Thank you!
@8:15 Ladies and gentleman, this is exactly the reason we have to keep our exit seat windows open for taxi, takeoff and landing. So that flight attendants (or passengers) can relay information to the flight deck.
I also like that the passengers weren’t sprinting away and potentially making more hazards and confusion for emergency personnel. They were quick but also calm. So very good job by crew to keep the passengers calm and a great job by the passengers for trusting their crew to keep them safe
sounds like the controller indicated the #1 bogey, not the #1 tyre. I'm surprised to hear TWR at ATL coordinate ground traffic. That's normally the responsibility of GND. Good job by everyone involved. And that includes the passengers not stopping to take selfies or life streaming the evacuation on facebook as it is happening!
I agree, she most likely referred to the #1 truck, not the individual tire. The TWR coordinated with the ARFF crew from their station located south of Runway 9R, adjacent to Taxiway R. According to the established protocol, no vehicle shall move on any runway without prior communication with the TWR. The TWR instructed the ARFF vehicles to cross Runway 9R via R7 N and move towards the emergency vehicle on Runway 9L. This indicates that the ARFF vehicles were already positioned next to the runway, awaiting clearance to cross.
Besides what others have said, there's the expedient factor of "If you saw it or learned of it first, it's your problem to deal with" regarding which ATC position handles what kind of emergency. If they were taxiing to the takeoff runway and had a stuck break start smoking, it would likely end up being GND's problem to deal with. But since this aircraft had just landed and hadn't been officially handed off to GND yet from TWR, it happened on TWR's watch, so it's TWR's job to handle it as they see fit. Now, the option does of course exist to hand the problem off to another controller that might be more suited to handle the emergency in question (or have more resources available to do so), and in fact that's routine for in-flight emergencies, but in this case where things are happening quickly and it's on an otherwise active runway, it seems like the TWR controller on duty was capable, confidant, and comfortable with with handling it by themselves. Of course, that's just approaching it from "general principles", each airport likely has protocols to determine who's job it is to handle emergencies based on what kind of emergency and when/where it happens, and those would override anything I've just said of course, because those protocols were probably created in response to something happening that they wish to avoid, even if the thing to be avoided is just a point of minor confusion about who's actual job it is.
Great video, at first I thought the outside temp came into play considering the date of this incident was 8/03/2023 (and I’m in Texas which had roughly 3 months of 100+ weather this past summer) but on that day temps were 77-95, so I’m assuming (
As a firefighter you have no idea how much we appreciate and Captains final communication.
The team is not just the crew on the aircraft - it's alll of you on the griund, especially the forefighter who train and hop to never have to use that training in a majot incident. Communication is key and saves lives. Al the best to you and your colleagues at airports worldwide. Unsung heros, all.
Don't call it his final communication 😂
In the 1980's, I worked at an international airport that was shared with the FAA and the Air National Guard as a fire fighter. I was surprised that the tower didn't declare an Alert II when they spotted the fire and possibly an Alert III since the plane was on the ground. And maybe they did and I just couldn't hear it on that frequency. But that would have removed all worries about passengers on the ground. And maybe they did declare the alert and it just took a few seconds for all the controllers to hear that an alert was declared and to start following their procedure and order the go around.
Back in the 1980's either alert would have closed the airport so that emergency vehicles can cross any runway or taxis as needed. The Operation manager might declare the airport re-open once verifying no FOD or anything else on the runways while we were still on the field but maybe things have changed since then. Once the airport was re-open we would have to be in contact with ground control if we were having to cross runways to get back to the station.
Also, we appreciate communications directly with the captains too. The captains also like having trained eyes on the plane once they get it on the ground because they really can't see what is going on outside or under their aircraft until they get out.
@@go-away-5555But it is though 😂, the final radio communication before exiting
As a person who lived through a house fire, where we could barely get out: you have no idea how much we appreciate Fire Fighters!
When Qantas 32 was being deplaned, the passengers were instructed not to take their luggage with them as they were exiting the plane. One passenger tried to take his bag with him, and the flight attendant told him he couldn't do that. The passenger then told him "I already have my bag with me, so what are you going to do about it." The flight attendant grabbed the bag, threw it across the other side of the plane, and told him to get off. Nobody brought their bags with them after that.
Wow what a jerk that passenger was. Hope he got banned for risking people’s lives due to his arrogance and selfishness.
On another Qantas evacuation, with a brake fire (with communications lost with the engineers on the ground), the F/O went down the slide with a fire extinguisher in his hands. He overbalanced (probably because of the fire extinquisher) and broke a limb. I can't remember if it was a leg or arm. That's another reason not to carry something.
A word to leaving bags: Don't even grab them, not if it's in the seat in front of you or in the overhead. If it's that important to you, have it in a pocket on your body. If a plane is on fire and it's serious, you're most likely to die from smoke inhalation. Mere seconds can mean the difference between life or death and if you're unfortunate enough to be way down the line closer to the fire, every second a passenger takes to get a bag or go in the overhead might mean someone's life closer to the smoke/fire. If you have a backpack, you might think there's no harm but that backpack is now a gap between you and the person behind you. No joke, that's keeping other passengers closer to danger, it's a slide puncture hazard and it's likely going to be ordered off your body before you evacuate. Don't do it! Your life is more important than your laptop and so are the lives of everyone else.
Very true. I'm pretty attached to my Surface Pro but it's not worth someone being maimed for life.
Anyone caught on the slide holding an object that isn't a lifeform should be no-flied between 10 years and eternity.
@@avengingmime There are a few videos on YT with emergency evacuations where the plane is on fire and you can see (from the interior) people going for the overheads and (from the exterior) people coming out with carry-ons and roll-aboards. In many of these instances people died closer to the fire. I get that in panic situations people who aren't trained how to behave in an emergency don't often act rationally but a little pre-mediated thought about what you'd do in that type of a situation can go a long way in saving someone else's life. My "stuff" just isn't worth it.
@wizardmix
Id like to add to this, when on a plane, if you have life saving or urgently needed medication put it in a pocket on your body - do not leave it in your carry on bag. In case of evacuation, you will not need to worry about it that way. I have medication like that and I always make sure its on my person while on a plane not in my carry on.
I probably wouldn't take the time to get an overhead bag in an emergency, but I'd grab a bag in front of me under a seat. I carry medical supplies with me so I might need these.
Lock the overhead bins for take off & landing.
Kelsey, thanks for the shout out for the flight attendants. I wish more people realized that they are far more than glorified waiters. This video neatly shows how so many people, ATC, ground controllers, emergency personnel, pilots and flight attendants all bring their specialized training to work professionally in an emergency. Kudos, too, to the passengers who kept cool heads and aided in the evacuation. I'll bet that once the adrenanalin rush wore off for all involved there were more than a few rubbery legs.
Giving us food and water is a secondary task for the FA. They're main is keep us safe and informed.
I bet the cabin crew were reveling in the fun they had, and always hoped they would get the chance one day to deploy the slides.
@@mballer I'm fairly sure it wasn't in these conditions lol
@@THErealOGse
I'm pretty sure it was certainly a different trip back to the hotel, with a story to tell the rest of their career.
It's not like it was a raging fire right outside the windows.
I would have liked to have heard the captain's announcement to the passengers.
Pretty sure he was calm and reassuring.
A good time was had by all!
While it’s of course true. The Flight attendants are very important. I suspect Kelsey also has in mind “keep FA happy with me they will make sure he gets the good snacks”
My wife is a Delta FA and I can tell you that this is what they train for. They are on board for the passengers safety.
And to ride the gray dragons…
I often remind myself that it’s not about the snacks!
@@michaelzaug8750 Well, not ALL about the snacks, but they do play an important role. ;)
I'm thinking the FA's aren't getting enough credit. The Passengers are : Not panicked - Organized- Methodical - Obviously informed - Calm enough to help each other. It looks like the work of a great crew.
First thing I noticed was the passengers WALKING away from the bottom of the slide and calmly walking off to (presumably) the lawn nearby.
I feel like they got lucky with their load of passengers as well, a load of people who actually have brains in their heads. You don't see that in most people anymore.
I would think the people helping off the end of the slide are the ones who were sitting in the emergency exit row and were instructed to do that task. They always ask if you're fit and able to help in an emergency before takeoff.
@@NM-yu3fcSo many pax think the exit row exists to give them extra leg room, it's nice to see they were listening! 👌
I feel Kelsey gave credit where credit was due. He specifically mentioned the flight attendants.
3:47 When the controller said to "number 1 main gear" rather than "number 1 tire", I suspect she was referring to the entire gear assembly as a whole, "number 1" referencing the left side of the aircraft and not to the number 1 tire - as she was likely too far away to make out individual tires that clearly.
Number 1 gear, number 1 tire, who cares, she told them the fire was on the left side using the number 1.
I agree. When I was ground crew we were trained to count the engines and main gear from left (captain side) to right. The furthest left main gear assembly and engine would be number 1, then 2, 3, 4. I suspect the tower controller may have been trained the same way.
Excellent point. Like the number 1 engine is on the left facing the cockpit.
Sooo which one is the 74 Gear one?
@@StorymasterQ Well--That would be on a REALLY HUGE plane, of course! 😁😂🤣
I honestly think the Hudson river landing is what has encouraged so many passengers to be civil and understanding during aircraft evacuations. It was a real life situation where people saw that if they worked together there was a huge chance of succeeding.
Your compassion for the controllers and pilots and crews is admirable. You represent your profession well. You educate the public well. Thank you.
Kelsey you did a phenomenal
job explaining everything here. Your best video yet! Thank you for always showing gratitude to the entire crew, including the flight attendants. Having trained as one long ago, I appreciate you reminding the public that their #1 purpose is for safety & that they are well trained & very assertive in emergencies! It looked very well organized. Great to see.
i fly with an underseat chihuahua. leave or carry out?
@@hank_roberts"i fly with (...) or carry out?"
Just claim that he or she is a passenger and must be evacuated.
Very well said.
Thanks for giving flight attendants their credit. They catch so much grief from uncooperative passengers who are unaware that their job is safety first and coffee service is just extra.
I assume by “number 1 main gear” she means left most, and isn’t referring to tires but the entire cluster, similar to how engines are numbered
Exactly what I thought....referring to whole gear.. Controllers cannot know tire positions for all different planes.
or may be she’s aviation enthusiast
Exactly my thoughts, I assume she meant the gear closest to engine number 1, which is the left side.
@@ravipratik3305
Nah, she hates airplanes 🙃
Clearly, the ATC person on Tower duty that day likes aircraft enough to make their job related to aircraft.
I think that only a truly irrational person would both dislike aircraft and seek to become an Air Traffic Controller.
It's as implausible as an auto mechanic that doesn't like cars, you know what I mean?
The job doesn't pay nearly well enough to attract people that don't have some form of passion for the subject matter in both cases.
In any case, the situation is likely exactly as the thread starter indicated, the ATC was referring to "number 1 gear" as in "on the same side as the number 1 engine".
Yeah, me too. I think Kelsey’s off base here. I’d never say that, normally. I don’t think the pilot ever thought there was a right side problem.
Beside the quality of Kelsey’s commentary, his asides about human nature is the main reason I subscribed to his channel.
We really are all here to help each other. We need to not forget that.
What a great example of everyone working together.
OK ... now lets try the same evacuation on a Frontier or Jet-Blue flight. Many on those flights just AIN'T getting off the airplane without their carry ons.
@@oddshot60 Not that many people listen to the safety announcements on any airline as much as they should. I feel that they should mention some of the reasonings behind these rules such as leaving your luggage behind to not only make it quicker but to Kelsey's point not damage the slides.
I wish we could get the American congress to work half as well 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
@@marjanusa8385 True, that!🥰
One major thing I learned in your videos is that I now always keep my passport in my pants pocket rather than the bag, since in the case of an emergency I couldn't take the bag with me, but it's critical to have the passport in a foreign country.
Good point
yep , wallet , cards, my pack of smokes n passport , the rest of the shit is usually worthless anyways and in some ways i should get rid most of it :)
Make that all IDs and even in you home country. Do you want to go to the DMV?
@@Wtfukker very well said :)
Exactly 🙏🏽💙💙
The Captain/pilot seems incredibly calm and professional. Hats off to the captain!
I bet you a quarter that his calm explaining voice coming over the intercom helped keep the passengers calm as well.
@@hcfornwalt nah, need the quarter for gas money!😂🤣😎
@@JohnRodriguesPhotographernever know when that one drop of gas might come in handy
Also the ATC lady doing some wild multitasking
@@JohnRodriguesPhotographer???
Thanks for pointing out the lack of luggage. That's something you don't see very often these days. Good job by the pax!
The controller was totally on it. In a split second she realized that the runway wasn't clear to land and she directed the landing plane to go around all the time dealing with all of the emergency vehicle coordination. Amazing work.
That or her supervisor was like “uh Kim, they’re evacuating on that side that you cleared the other plane for” and she was like “oh shoot” and quickly said to go around.
I live in the Atlanta area. This is my "home" airport. Your video about this emergency instills additional confidence about the competence & professionalism present in this facility. Kudos to all involved. Thx, Kelsey.
Everyone I have ever dealt with at ATL, has been amazing. Great staff, great gate agents, great air crews. This video shows how solid their tower is, and I really appreciate that. That doesn't mean I don't absolutely loathe that airport, heh. (I spent several years going to DragonCon flying in and out of ATL. After a couple years of that, I just decided to start driving from Maryland down to the convention.)
@@Tirani2 I only flew into ATL on two occasions in my life, but I'll never forget the time that was in the daylight, how I could look out my window and see planes that didn't seem all that far away, paralleling mine! I knew they had to be far enough away for safety, but it surprised me. Every plane was flying just as steadily as could be and I was impressed. My husband, now retired was a helicopter pilot for a little over 52 years and I got to ride with him several times. I remember being so proud of him when I would see him in the front, flying the chopper. Both his mom and I got to ride with him together on one of her visits and she never stopped talking about it. She was a lot of fun to be with and such a good sport about things. I still miss you, Mom. 🥰❤
I want to say seeing real life emergency evacuations gives me a lot more hope for humanity. Many people would assume that everyone would instinctually panic and climb over eachother to escape, but from the handful of real world emergency evacs I’ve seen videos of, passengers actually tend to remain calm and cooperate to help eachother exit, in land and water situations. I fly a lot but have a lot of anxiety about crashing, so knowing that the information we’re given preflight genuinely works to keep passengers calm and focused is extremely comforting. We can’t control certain things, but we can control how we react to them ❤
If there is fire in the cabin there is a much higher level of panic. This caused deaths on one flight where there was a cabin fire and people were climbing over the seats and too many were trying to cram their way past the section dividers. The outcome of that was to widen the passage between the sections by several inches so they wouldn't get jammed up as easily. This was tested by promising thousands of dollars to the first several off the plane during a test evacuation (using greed instead of panic as the motivation to be first off).
The execution was beautiful and timed perfectly from all ends. The Captain was calm and communicative to ATC, ATC showed situational awareness when spotting fire from both gears and instructing Delta 1576 to go around from 9R, and the passengers listening to the crew instructions by evacuating the aircraft without bringing their luggage as well as the passengers helping the others out of the slide. The best example of Teamwork and Safely.
It seemed like there were 2 planes coming in for a landing. Did she let a plane land on an adjacent runway?
I'm glad people are no longer told to remove their shoes when going down the slide - that was the most stupid thing ever.
They just needed to make the slides tougher, and apparently they did.
@@scotterickson6332 The other plane didn't land, did you not notice that?
And Kelsey did his best explaining and teaching work here!
Thank you, i am thanking you as a Chief Cabin Attendant now retired. It is always appreciated when somebody, you in this case, give us the right value. When i heard people saying we were just waitress at the beginning I got angry and spoke on the name of my Category… than I just started ignore. We and the Cockipit, each one with their roles , had to work as a team. And I met wonderful people on my job!
I always have so much appreciation for the flight attendants on my plane, shout out to Bianca from EasyJet who was the sweetest, loveliest I’ve ever met and made me thoroughly enjoy my recent flight to Sardinia!
Kelsey you are a fresh breathe of air the world needs. Keep teaching the 74 crew we value you highly.
Kelsey - gotta say this is one of your Top Ten videos. Outstanding. Thank you.
If you didn't actually know this was a real evacuation, it could easily be mistaken as a training session. I'm in awe with how calm the pilot was. So many people have the "it's never going to happen to me" attitude with health and safety related issues but its safe to say, the pilots, flight attendants, fire crew and ATC emergency situation training all came into use. Would have been made so much easier by the passengers listening and cooperating with the attendants too. Well done to everyone ❤
My first impression was it was a cg recreation. Maybe some of the later shots were actual.
Gotta love how Kelsey acknowledges everybody´s professional behaviour: the pilots, the FA´s, the ATC´s AND the passenger´s.
I am quite convinced that the passengers beeing calm and well behaved might have been due to a calm an professional announcement and attitude by the captain. This than is reflected by the crew and the passengers.
My Sunday mornings have become a ritual of making my coffee and watching 74 gear. Hello from Chicago ❤ Keep the blue side up!
Very interesting and educational to a normal passenger. Hats off to everyone involved in the safe evacuation.
I always appreciate Kelsey's presentations that have just the right amount of humor and are quite informative. He highlights some of the very competent and professionals in who we put our trust.
This A.T.C and everyone else involved were very professional in handling the situation, But what else can you expect from workers at what's known as the worlds busiest airport. Great job Atlanta, nothing but love and total respect for them all.
This is proof that constantly training and professionalism is so important. Everyone involved seems to have done an excellent job. 👏
Great example of teamwork, communication and organization.
Excellent video. You can obviously see that all of the training flight crews have to go through has paid off in this scenario. The professionalism of the entire flight crew is quite evident. Kudos to the crew for getting folks safely off the plane. The controller also should be recognized. She clearly seemed calm during this stressful event, yet was able to get emergency services coordinated while dealing with the emergency situation as well as still doing her day-to-day task of getting planes on and off the ground. There are so many opportunities for things to go very wrong during this emergency situation yet everything went well. It all goes back to the training and professionalism of all involved.
Thanks Kelsey for stressing the point of leaving luggage in an evacuation. As a flight attendant myself I appreciate it. Also as a retired firefighter and amateur pilot I found this video video extremely interesting.😅
It's probably important to keep in mind that people evacuating here may not have been that concerned about their luggage and belongings because the situation wasn't critically life threatening. There were not flames flowing through the cabin, people were not choking on smoke, and the problem was very external to the cabin. It seems to me that passengers would be more likely to try to cling to their belongings if they're convinced they won't see them again, such as if the plane is in immediate danger of exploding or being consumed by fire.
I give flight attendants the same courtesy and respect as I do the people flying the plane because they're officers of the flight, too, and they're ensuring a safe and comfortable flight. It bothers me that people do not give them - or even the opportunity of flight, period - the same courtesy and respect. Then again, I still fly dressed properly in a blazer, and some treat it like they're still in their living room. Nothing's like it was. Great video.
My motto has always been, keep focused-you're not dead yet.
As Kelsey says , it shows there's hope for humanity. As long the plane doesn't go up in flames, you'll get your stuff. If it does, well, weren't you lucky.
I'd love to hear what Stella would have to say on this.
That's a good motto. Mine is 'How would an adult behave?'
A great synopsis Kelsey, as a retired FA in UK we were authorised to evacuate an aircraft before the flight deck crew did if the aircraft was known to be on fire or if we knew the aircraft had broken up. In addition if we had pax standing at the doorway refusing to jump we were authorised to push them or kick the back of their knees in order for them to jump onto the emergency slide. Out of interest the UK industry standard is that an aircraft should be evacuated within 90 seconds using one side of the aircraft only.
This Delta crew did a great job all round I applaud them for their actions.
Great job by the plane captain and the whole crew!
It's amazing how this story of a plane on fire can increase my confidence in commercial aviation.
You and Petter have done a great job in helping me fight my fear of flying.
You are awesome about giving credit to the flight attendants. The general public needs to know that the primary objective of the flight attendants is safety of the passengers. They act directly on the orders of the captain. Also, they don't get paid until the doors are closed. So, if they help with luggage in the cabin, they're doing that by helping clear the aisle and also to just be a nice person and a good reflection on their company. Flight attendants rock.
A misconception that flight attendants “act directly on the orders of the captain”. Flight attendants are trained to act, with or without captains instructions. Best case scenario the flight deck gives instruction on events taking place.
Captain sounded totally chilled throughout, kudos for that. Controller sounded a little nervous, but not at all surprised and she did great too. Glad it all turned out safely for all involved. Oh and the other thing about the slide was that everyone looked utterly calm too.
Great video, Kelsey!! This incident was perfectly orchestrated by all involved, especially the captain. This should be used as a training incident for how to deal with this type of situation at a very busy airport.
Ì don't need training to close down the parallel runway. That is common sense. You shut down that parallel runway, whether they are evacuating or not
This is one of your best so far and that's saying a lot, Kelsey. Thank you and very well done.
Very impressive to see everyone from the Captain, FAs, to the tower, getting organized very quickly. I know a couple of career FAs....and they are serious about safety and emergency protocols. I have a lot of respect for them.
The evacuation procedures are learned by the flight attendants in training. The evac drills...such as leaving luggage behind, choosing able bodied persons to assist on the ground. And relearned during mandatory annual recurrent training. And it is team work all the way. So shout out to all the flight attendants out there! And of course the flight deck. Staying calm and making those decisions that affect everyone.
The first flight I was on the "stewardesses" came around and passed out little packages of two chicklets. 1955 or so.
Evacuation and safety is number 1 job for flight attendants. Most of the training is about safety.
@@North_West1 I hate when I've seen the videos where people are having tantrums when they are asked to co-operate with the rules. The rules are there to protect everyone concerned. There are so many self-absorbed brats around these days. :(
HAVING SCHEDULED AND WORKED CLOSELY WITH F/As and their management staff for a number of years, I have the utmost respect for these women and men and for their level of training and professionalism. Vital members of a flight crew, their first responsibility is for the safety of the passengers. Next time you folks fly, remember that and thank them for the job they do.
Respect & kudos to all Flight Attendants. 90% of their job is serving us food & drinks but they're the ones who are going to save us when things go seriously sideways in a very bad way. When you mentioned evacuating onto a live runway, it reminded me of Air France flight 358, an A340 that overran 24L at YYZ. There were no fatalities due to the Flight Attendants' training. When the fire was out, there was almost nothing left of the aircraft. Some of the passengers and crew ended up on Highway 401 (parallel to the runway) one of the busiest highways in North America, getting assistance from passing motorists.
There is also some ATC audio of the BA38 crash, with all the calls the air traffic controller made for that one. That one had a dual engine failure when approaching Heathrow, and ended up crashing on the runway. Everyone (including ATC) reacted super quick, and you can actually hear the workload of the controller spiking super quick, coordinating with everyone around. I'll leave a link in a reply to this, but youtube will probably swallow it.
> youtube will probably swallow it.
Assuming you did reply to yourself, it sure did. Would be better if you post the title so people can look it up themselves?
"BA038 777 Crash ATC Recording with transcript" will find it
This is the only evacuation video I've ever seen where no one is taking their carry on luggage down the slide with them. Great job!
No Chinese passengers
I've been shocked the times I saw evacuation videos where people clog the aisles trying to get their stuff to take off the plane. I was sitting here panicking because of that and I was home, sitting in my chair at my computer and I was yelling at the people to never mind their stuff! Just get off the plane alive!!!
No Indian passengers. Besides, I always have my passport and money on my person. So what if you lose a change of underwear or your laptop -the insurance company will replace it with new stuff.
Hey wanted to point out that wind was blowing 180, so right side evac on 9L would be the windward side, so the fire would be blown away from the pax in the grass.
Hi Kelsey thanks for another great video and explanation , as a retired ARFF of 25 years at international airport very impressed with all involved , great job by aircraft commander , and good on your for recognising the cabin crew / flight attendants , totally agree with you about the work load of the tower controller , I think she did a great job ..
That captain is cool as a cucumber and a true leader for staying until the end and making sure atc knew he was the last one and was leaving.
Those passengers staying behind to catch people and help them up from the slide really warms my heart. That's how it should be.
It's the Captains's job to remain calm and make sure all goes well. He doesn't want anyone to panic and die because of it and he has to maintain being able to think on his feet, which is what this Captain did beautifully. I have the utmost respect for the Captain and his crew in this video and the passengers. And he was so appreciative toward the Air Traffic Controller for all she did and how she had kept in communication so well.
I’m handicapped and elderly and I have to wear cumbersome leg braces. I doubt in an emergency I could get out in time.
I was once on a plane that circcled the airport for a very long time. I remember thinking it was strange that we were circling so long, and thinking, "Gosh, this airport must be busy." And after circling for a bit I started to worry about not making it to my connecting flight on time. After circling for about 20 minutes from when I noticed we were circling (we could have been circling longer, but as I said from when I noticed) I was starting to feel really concerned and was telling myself to not get upset, and was holding back feelings of being upset. We finally landed about 15 minutes late or so for my connecting flight, and I was feeling very stressed, figuring I had missed my connecting flight and would have to deal with all that nonsense that goes along with missing a connecting flight, but when I checked the board I saw my connecting flight and many other flights were delayed. - Watching this, I now realize/suspect, there must have been an emergancy at the airport that delayed everything. I was able to make my connecting flight, because it was behind schedule... along with a bunch of other planes. I can't recall the exact date, but I know the aiport and could probably figure out the date... I wonder now what happened that day to delay practically all (if not all) flights.
There should be better communication with the passengers in cases like that. I was on a flight that was delayed and they let us know before we reached the gate that our connecting flight was being held and we had 15 minutes to get across the airport and board. Unfortunately I think that extra time put that flight crew over hours as once we got there we were informed that they had to bring in a new flight crew and ended up waiting another 90 minutes.
But keeping the passengers informed goes a long way towards reducing stress and making everyone's experience better. It's a lot easier to forgive inconveniences when you know the airline is dealing with problems and trying to make sure everyone is taken care of.
@@roberteltze4850 Every time I had to fly ORD>CLT one summer, my arrivals were delayed due to lightning at CLT, and every time, I was advised to hustle over to my connecting flight to ILM because it was preparing to depart. That usually required walking from B13 to E36, just under 3/4 mile. The first time, I arrived out of breath, and the agent told me that due to the lightning, my connection was going to board for another 30 minutes. The next time, I arrived and the plane was there, but up on jacks with no nose wheel. The mechanics arrived--with the wrong replacement wheel. Took them another 45 minutes to get the right one because they had to cross the active runway to do that. The next time, I just took my sweet time, boarded the connecting flight a bit late, then sat on the tarmac for 30 minutes after another ground stop due to lightning. Never made sense to me how some airlines' internal comms could be so poor.
Besides the aircraft emergency situation, there are other factors that can do exactly the same thing.
The first one that comes to mind is adverse weather events.
Snow, rain, thunderstorms, and the like can all shut down an entire airport for hours at a time, and yet they usually are able to resume operations at least by the next day at worst (with exceptions (as in longer delays) being made for things like being directly in the path of a hurricane or tornado, or subjected to an earthquake, of course).
@@roberteltze4850While I agree with you and suspect you are probably not one of these people, most people don’t listen to, understand, or comply with most announcements in the plane or airport.
@roberteltze4850 If it's due to an emergency in progress on the ground or another airplane still in the air, they absolutely should NOT inform the passengers of ANY of that! That's a guaranteed way to absolutely panic the crap out of lots of people already stressed from flight travel and being crammed together around strangers. Not a good idea!
I appreciate the work you put in to recreate those incidents in flight simulator like here, or in overhead plans with the planes put there for us to see. That is not simple and a lot more work than it seems.
"Your gear is on fire" "Thank you"
It’s good that everyone is remaining calm and professional, but I also thought that exchange was hilarious.
“Thank you sir may I have another”😂
1) In order to be certified by the FAA the aircraft must be able to be evacuated with half the exits blocked in under 90 seconds. I know this because I went through the certification of the Boeing 747SP 2) Unless it's changed, those evacuation slides are NOT Waterworld! They're rough, almost like sandpaper 3) Cabin crew doesn't scream, that would induce panic. They YELL GET OUT, and push you out the door.
A picture perfect case study in how to handle things. Bravo to all involved.
sounded like the captain originally heard number 1, and correctly interpreted the later "right gear" as being incorrectly identified, with the logic that the tower would otherwise have said "both main gear on fire"
also, my thinking on the evacuation would be that the first passengers out would be directed to assist other passengers, and take responsibility for calling later passengers to a safe assembly place. also, people should consider the soles of their shoes. it's another good reason to wear utilitarian shoes when flying - imagine what a stiletto heel would do on that escape slide.
Riding the grey dragon is a great euphemism😅 Great work Kelsey!
There is a reason why you have more than 1 million subscribers.
Props to you. If you ever have a few days layover in the Philippines I would love to have a couple beers with you and have you share some of your experiences with me.
There's no alcohol for Pilots who are flying planes.
Great to finally see a video of people evacuating and not a single bag in sight.
Congratulations on making Captain 🙌🙌
Not a frequent flier, but I manage to get from point A to point B without much difficulty. I’m disabled - just a slow mover. So glad you make a point of leaving luggage/carry on on board. A few years ago, there was a plane emergency and passengers complained about having to wait to evacuate until some got their bags! I was a firefighter for 20 years; fire moves quickly. Bags be damned! Stay safe, keep up the good work here.
As a youtuber, I can say that captain pilot did a good job 😅
But in all seriousness, it's great to hear how professional everyone was.
It kinda hits you in the gut when you realize the captain is still in the chair giving updates and making sure everyone is out, before he finally evacuates.
Awesome video, Kelsey! Incredible work by everyone... captain, first officer, the cabin crew AND the passengers. I agree with a lot of the other comments... not enough credit goes to the flight attendants. Their primary job is to keep everyone safe. If everything is going well, then can take time to try and serve you drinks and cookies (or whatever). But they are NOT glorifed waiters... they are highly trained professionals who are there for your safety.
Thank you for the always great Sunday morning Aviation content Kelsey
I like the guy walking out from the plane with hands in pockets :D That tells a lot about how passangers were informed. Great job by everybody involved. Thank you Kelsey I like those "this is what you should expect when this happens" :)
Thank you Cpt. Kelsey.... I come to you as a nervous flier. Seeing videos like this is my greatest fear🙏 the worst I've experienced was extreme turbulence that sent my anxiety another 1000ft.
I ALWAYS make sure to thank everyone because they are ALL super heroes of the skies. I'm glad that everyone was safe, and that everyone helped make this an effortless evacuation.
It was far from effortless. Yet, it looked that way, due to the pilots & crew doing their jobs superbly and clearly communicating to their passengers, like Kelsey stated. Thanks Kelsey.
@@AndreasS.-mh8ti I know it's FFFFAAARRRR from effortless. Had a family member who was a flight attendant for 25yrs and she would tell us the stories. I watch him and The Mentor Pilot. They truly have helped me as far as flying.
Oh my gosh, everybody is so calm, this is a great video. Thank you.
What a great video and explanation of what was going on. Great job by all involved! Great video! I'm glad everyone was OK.
Kelsey what would happen to any pets in the cargo hold during an emergency like this? Would the captain know if there are pets and notify the emergency crews?
The evacuation activities are for passengers and crew only.
I wouldn’t get off without my dog. 😢
I noticed one thing that was mentioned in a video I saw about "realistic air traffic":
The pilots sound bored (or rather preoccupied). The idea was that you are not _only_ talking on the radio, you are doing other things as well, such as nothing writing down instructions.
Clear, concise and professional.
A great example of how things go RIGHT after something's gone wrong. Nice background explanation of all the 'stuff' that is suddenly happening there, Kelsey. Thanks!
Kelsey,, thank you for taking the time to do this video. I love hearing the point of view of other pilots on plane emergencies, it gives peoples a professional point of view discussing real events and steps taken to rectify those issues!
Although this wasn't a pants on fire emergency, it's nice to see people being civil in a difficult situation.
You saying "wasn't a pants on fire emergency" reminded me of something interesting:
If you're wearing synthetic fabrics and you go down an airliner escape slide, those synthetic fabrics might melt from the heat of friction on the escape slide.
It's not a good idea to wear pantyhose on an aircraft for that reason, same with any synthetic fabric, even blends.
That slide is designed to dissipate energy as you go down it so it's not supposed to be slippery. Thanks to it not being slippery, the energy has to go somewhere, and the only place for it to go is heat energy.
And no, they can't make the slide more slippery either. If it was any more slippery, you'd go flying off the end of it and on to the hard tarmac, and I don't like being presented with that possibility when I might have been woken unexpectedly from a nap I was having while on the flight, to the sound of flight attendants delivering emergency procedure briefings.
@@44R0NdinGood advice. Also, hose and other synthetics will melt rapidly and stick to your skin if you have to run through flames. I looked all over my 10-9 pages and can’t find the word “tarmac” anywhere. What is that?
@@richwightman3044 Tarmac is the asphalt or concrete paving material making the major surfaces of an airport intended for aircraft to taxi on, land, or take off from. So basically it covers both the taxiways and the runways without having to specify which material they're made of... or at least that's the definition that's in my head.
You're not lying!
@44R0Ndin Hopefully concrete at least on the apron; otherwise on hot days the pushback driver is trying to ease the nosegear out of its little divot in the asphalt and cringing at the thought of possibly having knocked a poor FA off their feet during the safety briefing. I was SO happy when our ramp in Albany finally got concreted. No more trying to "gently" rock planes out of the tar! Still froze to the pavement in the evil upstate winter though...
Top man Kelsey. Mint vid as always. Never miss on one of your informative and helpful insights into being in the cockpit. 👌👌👌
What a great video. All those people doing the right thing, so courteously. Thanks, Kelsey. Cheers from the Pacific West Coast of Canada.
Great video, I look forward to seeing every one of them you make. Thank you, Kelsey. Many moons ago I was a Range Control Officer in Avon Park Florida in the Air Force. When working the main tower all we dealt with were in flight emergencies since that was the only real reason we had a runway, This was back in the early 1980's. We controlled all military flights in and out and while on the ranges, had a hotline to Miami Center for clearances and such. We had to know quite a bit about each aircraft for various reasons, chemicals on board for weapons systems and so on. And most of the pilots were students but they always handled things well as far as I was concerned. I miss those days a lot. Especially when up in the tower on the actual range getting a good "Door Check" from a F4 Phantom. Older pilots will know what I mean.
Might not need to be a pilot to get that reference, F4's are particularly loud jets, and if you have a door open in the tower you'll learn about it very quickly when an F-4 does a low pass at high speed (particularly in afterburner).
I think that's what a "Door check" is in any case, did I get it right?
In the old old days the bombers used to fly over the range tower to make sure the doors were closed before they proceeded back to base. They would fly very low passes. The range controller would look up and let them know. And yes, The phantom II would give us full after burners. Same with the F16 falcon. We had a catwalk around the outside at the top of the tower.
The pilot with the tire on fire must be a complete psychopath.
Seems like she's saying the #1 GEAR is on fire, not the #1 tire. Not sure if the gear sets are referred to this way, but I think that's what she meant.
Hi Kelsey
The ATC Controller did a fantastic job under a lot of pressure as did the Captain.
I know Nautical terms are used a lot in the Aviation industry so I was surprised that instead of saying Left & Right she didn't say Port or Starboard because this would have made it crystal clear to exactly what side the fire was on regardless of Hers or the Captains orientation or visual perspective.
Fortunately the correct side was chosen to disembark the Passengers BUT in the confusion a simple unintentional misdirection could have had more serious consequences.
Everyone from the Cabin Crew the Flight Crew and ATC acted in an excellent and professional manner and if Port or Starboard are not usual ATC jargon then the Controller said what she could see and relayed it to the crew in that way under a great deal of pressure, and made vital decisions that averted any potential harm to passengers who had evacuated near the adjacent active runway, What a Legend!
This was a great video. It tied everything together & highlighted the key moments. I really appreciated the comments re the flight attendants. It makes me really angry when I hear about those professionals having to take the brunt of crap from horrible passengers. They really need to be better recognized and supported by the airlines and government. Thank you for doing what you can in that regard.
Great channel, great work K, the captain of this plane is just like Sully. These two pilots are the type that we all hope will be flying any plane we are on. Cool, calm and collected. Awesome job by everyone in the video. Captain, flight attendant’s as well as the passengers. It always has and always will start at the top. You really have to hand it to the flight attendants though, they are the reason for the e-vac going incredibly smooth. Awesome leadership and awesome crew. People need strong and confident leadership in times such as this and the performance of this crew was exemplary.
Wow, that was an awesome video Kelsey! As someone who has a big anxiety when flying, I need those stories and I need to have a big trust into the flight crew. It's the only thing that makes to board that plane (and your channel, of course) :)
So much respect for everyone involved here. The captain showed some stunning leadership and decisiveness, ATC was extremely adaptive and methodical with everything going on, and even the plane landing did a great job remaining alert and following instructions. Teamwork at its finest, amazing to see.
I love your closing comment "there is still a glimmer of humanity out there". This is not a political channel (thank goodness) but we now have two major wars going on, so it's great to remind ourselves that us ordinary folk behave decently. Many thanks for these videos. Russ (England).
No we don't. That's the crux of it all. We are ALL capable of utter inhumanity.
It’s just occurred to me: anybody who was traveling with a pet and left it behind…the captain told the firefighters “everybody” was off. So if the firefighters decide it’s a write off, nobody’s going back for those pets. If I have a pet in a carrier under the seat and it’s a situation like this, she’s coming with me. (Maybe out of the carrier, but she’s probably safer in there.) I’m not trusting fate with my baby. (Of course I’d be considerate of other passengers and mindful not to damage the slide by hugging the carrier to my body.)
One more note - of course if it’s pet lives versus human lives, human lives have to win out. I’m just fessing up that I’m in this Particular situation I’d be skeptical that trade off really existed. I’d wager I could get my dog off with minimal risk to other humans, but if I left her behind and the fire spread, there’s a high degree of risk to her.
Everybody was amazingly calm! Great job on everybody's part!
This was a very controlled team effort. Passengers, I am sure, are pretty terrified because they don't have access to the real information. It has always amazed me how flight attendants can remain so calm and competent during an emergency. They are the ones who have to calm the passengers down and make sure evaluations are done in an orderly fashion if possible. As you can see everyone was getting out safely with no one trying to push people aside. Kudos also to the passengers seated by the escape doors who I am sure helped out quite a bit. Great video, Kelsey👏
Kelsey what a great video! Thank God everything went smoothly! And the passengers acting correctly ! 😮😊
The captain speaks so clearly! He has great manner, always ends his sentences with a ‘thank you’.
What an inspiring video Kelsey. Everyone's done a great job and have done everything they could to make sure people are safe.
Thanks, Kelsey, for your generous reassurance that there's still a glimmer of hope for humanity.
Whenever we have our doubts about that, we watch one of your videos and get our spirits lifted. Thank you!
@8:15 Ladies and gentleman, this is exactly the reason we have to keep our exit seat windows open for taxi, takeoff and landing. So that flight attendants (or passengers) can relay information to the flight deck.
I also like that the passengers weren’t sprinting away and potentially making more hazards and confusion for emergency personnel. They were quick but also calm. So very good job by crew to keep the passengers calm and a great job by the passengers for trusting their crew to keep them safe
sounds like the controller indicated the #1 bogey, not the #1 tyre.
I'm surprised to hear TWR at ATL coordinate ground traffic. That's normally the responsibility of GND.
Good job by everyone involved.
And that includes the passengers not stopping to take selfies or life streaming the evacuation on facebook as it is happening!
I agree, she most likely referred to the #1 truck, not the individual tire.
The TWR coordinated with the ARFF crew from their station located south of Runway 9R, adjacent to Taxiway R. According to the established protocol, no vehicle shall move on any runway without prior communication with the TWR. The TWR instructed the ARFF vehicles to cross Runway 9R via R7 N and move towards the emergency vehicle on Runway 9L. This indicates that the ARFF vehicles were already positioned next to the runway, awaiting clearance to cross.
Besides what others have said, there's the expedient factor of "If you saw it or learned of it first, it's your problem to deal with" regarding which ATC position handles what kind of emergency.
If they were taxiing to the takeoff runway and had a stuck break start smoking, it would likely end up being GND's problem to deal with.
But since this aircraft had just landed and hadn't been officially handed off to GND yet from TWR, it happened on TWR's watch, so it's TWR's job to handle it as they see fit.
Now, the option does of course exist to hand the problem off to another controller that might be more suited to handle the emergency in question (or have more resources available to do so), and in fact that's routine for in-flight emergencies, but in this case where things are happening quickly and it's on an otherwise active runway, it seems like the TWR controller on duty was capable, confidant, and comfortable with with handling it by themselves.
Of course, that's just approaching it from "general principles", each airport likely has protocols to determine who's job it is to handle emergencies based on what kind of emergency and when/where it happens, and those would override anything I've just said of course, because those protocols were probably created in response to something happening that they wish to avoid, even if the thing to be avoided is just a point of minor confusion about who's actual job it is.
ROTF!! That seems to be what people try to do these days.
The quality and informative value of your videos never cease to amaze me
Great job by all. The controller did get a bit overwhelmed for a moment, but she quickly recovered, which is what matters.
Good Morning from Delta’s hometown, Atlanta! Thank you for the video Kelsey❤❤
Great video, at first I thought the outside temp came into play considering the date of this incident was 8/03/2023 (and I’m in Texas which had roughly 3 months of 100+ weather this past summer) but on that day temps were 77-95, so I’m assuming (