I absolutely love your content on your channels!! My most flown aircraft on my flight simulator happen to be the 737-700, 737-800, and 737 Max 8. I do fly some of the other Boeing aircraft from time to time as well, but nowhere near as often. Oddly enough, I ended up with the Thrustmaster Airbus Officer’s Edition Flight Stick and Throttle Quadrant only because they more than doubled the price of the Boeing Edition. This one is a little easier to travel with as well. Being blind, I have ways of hand flying the aircraft and landing, but do to calibration difficulties, I much prefer auto landing, and watching this definitely was a help.❤
Well done, landing in Dublin. The Autopilot's are a magician's invevention. Yes your Dear Dad would have loved it. Did you know that he taught on those too?
Two signs of a great production: 1) You can understand with audio off, and video on. A+ 2) You can understand with audio on, and video off. A+ As a onetime nervous flyer I learned to close my eyes and visualize myself in my mothers womb. The ambient noise was what my mother heard while she did her best to keep me safe. A jet is a strong yet fragile
Wrong button sorry…trying to be profound! …fragile container carrying SOB and doing all within their power to keep them safe. The comparison worked, and I never was nervous again. Thank you.
Have you covered the Tupolev TU-154 crash in Longyearbyen? I learned of it when I travelled there in 2016, it's fascinating from a malfunction/work overload/language barrier perspective, and also the following fallout from the loss of passengers resulting in the nearby mining town needing to be evacuated (it is still a ghost town to this day, very eerie to visit, even school papers still out on desks. I could likely dig up some photos). Highly recommended to take a look at!
If you want to see this from my perspective, with a couple of the bits that didn't make it in here, that's over on my channel. And to all the Mentour team -- this was a heck of an experience, thanks so much!
Agreed - I cracked up at that one, though I think it has to take a close second behind "if this is an ejector seat, I'm gonna kill him..." Fantastic collab and really interesting to see both videos!
Yeah, it’s quite funny when there’s two RUclipsrs you follow and think of as entirely separate and you don’t even think about other people possibly following both channels as well and all of a sudden, there’s a crossover of those two. Thank you!
What's even more amazing is that he did communicate but didn't prioritze it over flying the airplane, basicly following the "aviate, navigate, communicate" which is pilot's mantra in case of emergency. Even though the navigation part was rough.
i would be impressed if Tom wasn't a hand picked "random person" he is speaking like he already knows basic flying techniques... to be impressive i need to see some dude taken off the street on his way to buy his morning milk thrown in the simulator.. not this chosen person that essentially knows what he is doing.
@testdriveheroes811 he clearly doesn't know what he's doing. I've bever stepped foot in a cockpit. All the knowledge I have is from watching videos and even then I barely know anything. About the only thing Tom had going for him is that he knew how to communicate, which is not that rare of a skill.
I love how tense he is saying he can’t see any runway only clouds and you told him (with a smile) “Yep that’s how we fly. “ I think Tom gained some mad respect for your job in those moments.
@@paulscott2037 Porqué no los dos? 😅 At least the professional pilot sounding like things are normal is SOME level of reassuring, even while basically crapping yourself with fear, I imagine.
I came late in the video and thought it was a real scenario. My heart was in my mouth thinking he was in a real aircraft. When mentour laughed I recognized it was a simulator. Its precious. A good prank for someone not realizing its a simulator. Its worth traveling to Dublin. He says " flying" like he's talking to a ATC.
@@biosparkles9442 Petter could have been cruel and instigated an aircraft inversion during cloud-out, but thankfully for Tom's continued living, he did not.
It's good to see that he was seriously nervous which is a credit to the realism of the simulator and is how you would be in a real life situation, instead of thinking it's a simulator so it doesn't really matter.
The thing I really appreciate about Tom, besides his infectious enthusiasm, is his willingness to try virtually anything and to upload the video even if he horribly messes it up.
To be fair, he did get it on the ground both times! Yes, the manual landing was a little bit 'off' but in real life I wouldn't be surprised if many walked away from that one?
Tom is a pretty sharp guy with all kinds of technical experience. It’s amazing how complicated this is with a normal, perfectly functional aircraft. Imagine what it’s like during an emergency. Mad respect to the pilots.
Imagine how bad it can get when _some_ of the control surfaces are reversed. So it is not a straightforward inversion, but a crazy nonlinear situation when the control surfaces are working against each other.
@@adamrak7560 I mean, I know there has been freak accidents where some sort of control inversion has occurred, but I don't see how that is relevant in the context of this video's scenario? The chances of both total pilot incapacitation _and_ significant technical failure combined are just so abysmally small. But, to answer your question, if a passenger had to take control, and there was then a control inversion failure, everyone on board would assuredly be dead. I think OP meant the stress of the emergency _of total pilot incapacitation itself,_ not with any other added complications.
@@mnxs I grew up in the industry and I'm currently a first officer at a major. I have never in my life heard of a control inversion. Cite your sources?
I'm a trainer and I could see how you were deploying all the skills people need for feeling like they're in safe hands. Even pointing out noises which will happen. Truly your vocation, chief!
And the Trim Wheels - always catch the unwary off guard! Tom really peaked freak-out at that moment, but 'Perfectly Normal' from the instructor immediately squashes heightened anxiety.
total layman here: My only "complaint" is when Tom started to panic, Mentour did not show much effort to deescalate Tom's fear, Now, that could have been cut in editing. But I think the reason Tom crashed is because he panicked and stopped listening. Unless the emergency was an equipment failure, wouldn't it have been prudent to have Tom throttle up, and pitch up, and make another lap somewhere around the time he stated he intended to land on the taxiway? (honest question, )
_"all the skills people need for feeling like they're in safe hands. Even pointing out __-noises-__ THINGS which will happen"_ - exactly like that guy that happened to be "my" dentist, many years ago. Needles to say, it was a VERY, VERY good approach of his.
Being able to vocalise every single step from memory (visualising) rather than having it in front of him and then articulate those into clear directions for someone who's never seen the insides of a cockpit before was truly remarkable.
@@JSmith73 Many years ago I came across this expression "it's like trying to teach a six years old kid how to tie shoelaces over the phone". (I believe it was David Pogue, in one of his "...For Dummies" books.)
I think that the autopilot landing was first and manual later. I Think that he would still survive the manual one as well - he just landed on the grass ;)
Anxiety, exhilaration, fear, panic, wonder, elation, another panic, self satisfaction, concentration, focus......all that was relayed in this extraordinary exercise.
19:59: Mentour Pilot: you see the green button Tom: Confirm. *Reaches for button instinctively, as I would* Mentour Pilot: Cool. Don't push that or it'll turn off. Tom: *returns hands fully back to chest* I love both channels. Very unexpected colab. Glad I found it.
I don't work with aircraft but I still learned very early on that if I'm just pointing something out to someone as a button I should always preface it with "Don't push anything yet" specifically because I know that they will push it
@@Shipwrecker97I would hope that if this was real that the parallel taxiway would be cleared of all obstacles by ATC as soon as it became clear that an amateur was at the controls.
Honestly at less than 3m/s vertical speed this was simply a hard landing not a crash. I think the autopilot just crashed him, because he hit the grass.
@@nemo-x for sure. woulda just rolled through the grass, depending on how soft/hard it was. even in the worst case scenario of it being so soft it rips gear off and you end up with things catching fire, id guess he would have an 80%+ survival rate of passengers from that one, if not 100.
@@CTSFanSam they could've made it a single button to set everything up, but planes and Boeing especially insist on the pilots knowing every little detail systems are doing, and for a good reason
@@CTSFanSam for safety reasons it needs to be made that way. When you know what you're doing the extra complexity means you can easily see if the autopilot is failing, and especially when landing, things like the heading, speed, and altitude you need may change up to the last second depending on weather and traffic, so it can't be a one-button system. But if you watched Petter's videos on everything you need to do to land a plane it's more obvious how complex it actually is to fly a plane, and how much the autopilot simplifies that task despite its complexity. If Apple or Microsoft had designed it everything would be buried deep inside the system and you wouldn't know what's happening if anything goes wrong because they're scared to expose their users to actual technical information, and only give you a summarized glance at what's happening. It's why you can't use an ordinary computer to fly a plane
@@thesteelrodent1796 If microsoft designed it, it would require a subscription. A fee per landing I would imagine (and a fee for take off, a fee for en-route, etc).
Man I’ve watched a lot a lot of Mentour pilot videos and felt I somewhat knew my way around a 737 cockpit. This really Illustrates how difficult it really is to fly one of these.
Not even all the way through yet, but I can tell that Tom's best trait for this sort of thing is his communication skills. He's very clear about what he's seeing.
When he started to really get anxious and overwhelmed I just wanted to tell him it's ok, calm down like 10% and refocus. Then get him to do some more simple exercises to get the feel for the plane before executing the approach. It was obviously stressing him out and it was affecting his ability to keep everything under control. I would say he did a really good job at communicating, he just needed to know it was ok to take his time, and to breathe, and that he was doing a great job at learning everything on the fly so far, just keep at it. Kudos to Tom Scott for giving it his best and for sharing something that didn't go perfectly, I think that shows a lot of courage and self-awareness. And kudos to Mentour Pilot for making this happen, and for being a great coach. I understand that you were trying to get him to land with minimal training and with time pressure so none of what I said was a criticism on your coaching. I could just see he was stressing and wanted him to nail that landing haha
Petter is that kind of person to make somebody, not interested AT ALL in aviation, deeply regret to not have chosen this as a career path. Just SO incredibly inspiring!!
Well that was so gripping I'm going to watch it twice. Nice job to both of you! One thing I noticed, Petter had a hard time not falling back on technical jargon when describing where he wanted Tom's attention. It's really hard to put yourself in the head of a layperson when you live and breathe this stuff everyday.
I was actually surprised how much Tom understood without explaining (even in the auto landing). There was a similar video made by Captain Joe 5 years ago and it took much longer for his accidental pilot to get to know the controls.
@@larryphotography _I think_ the glare shield is the thin blade that comes out below the windshield and above the autopilot panel. I would welcome a correction
@@larryphotography The 'glare shield' is the top part of what we would call the 'dash board'. It is a cover sticking out beyond the top of the instrument panel, to prevent sunlight from the windscreen shining down onto the instruments and making them hard to read. But yes, it is jargon that a non-pilot wouldn't know.
This was super cool. A while back a buddy and I paid to do a 737 Sim that they open to the public. We spent 3 hours in that thing and I was beat at the end. Totally captured the stress and systems management aspect of modern piloting. Well done.
@@jmarkula Yeah, I think artists license has been applied to the final edit of this episode. I had so many questions to the way Tom was reacting and being guided by non other but the Mentour himself! And pretty much all of my concerns were answered by the second part of the video, which leads me ot believe that it was filmed in the reverse order.
@@MentourPilot You first did the AP land and then the manual, right? It's a bit confusing for the viewers since you show them in reversed order and Tom magically seems to know all the things that you then explain "later" ;)
@@RandomUser2401 yes, we did it that way because I wanted to differentiate AND I wanted to show how stressful it is when you are flying manual compared to autopilot.
Ive felt genuine emotion from this. For many years now, it has always been my dream to get into a 737 simulator and put myself to the test. Hope some day i have the chance to do so.
Definitely a dream of mine too. The manual attempt certainly looked very stressful, but even with the autopilot flying that must still be a really cool experience.
That was absolutely brilliant! I felt Tom's emotions from start to finish. If I were "ever" in this kind of position where it's just me up there, it would be a tremendous comfort knowing that "you" were talking me down to a successful landing. How cool was this? A typical passenger safely landing a huge plane like that? Surely you can't be serious!
Seeing Petter's glee as Tom landed was incredibly infectious. And man, it's amazing how good those simulators are considering how much stress Tom went through. This is why you should always appreciate your pilots, folks. Much, Much harder and stressful than people realize.
Just thinking about the amount of basic training needed to just get into even more advanced training and then continue training just to do your profession. I requires some real heart and dedication. Mad respect
Well, no. If it's hard and stressful for a trained pilot they're in the wrong job. That's what training is for. It becomes muscle memory so it's NOT harder and more stressful. You need confidence in critical jobs and a strong belief in yourself to handle situations. A typical landing should never be stressful.
@@johndoh5182 It's a human trait you can't train away. That's is why aviation is all about procedures. It can still be stressful, a high workload will stress anyone out and potentially lead to mistakes Watch mentour pilots videos and you'll see very senior captains get into trouble. It's about not reaching that point to keep stress levels down and mistakes at a minimum
@@rosen9425 You're just repeating what the other person said. They never claimed the job could never be stressful but all the "typical" workload and procedures should not result in a high amount of stress. That's what the training and screening are there for. To weed out the ones who can't fulfill these criteria.
one thing is listening what should be done, and completely other thing is seeing complete non-pilot actually doing that instructions. That was intense!
When you tell someone to aim for the beginning of a runway, you kind of assume they'll know to get on the centreline first. Fascinating to see that that wasn't the case.
@@MentourPilot I have a hard enough time giving people directions over the phone to a place down the street! :D I can't imagine having to be able to visualize the whole cockpit and the state its in, then give instructions on how to land the aircraft.
I laughed far more than I should at "If this is an ejector seat I'm gonna kill him". That particular combination of anxiety and frayed temper is just too relatable.
Pity they didn't have a fake ejection button in there. Must hit 3 times, first to initiate, next to confirm, next to consign all passengers to an early grave. :P
I've seen many people autoland (a simulator), but I've never seen anyone without training manually land without incident. Tom missed the runway, and landed hard (the simulated people probably lived, but the plane is toast after that hard a landing.)
@@jfbeam only thing I can think of that has actually happens is that a plane landed so hard the wheel actually went through the floor of the cabin and injured a passenger. I’m sure 99% of the passengers on the manual flying probably would’ve lived. Even if someone was injured they would have the whole suite of emergency responders and equipment but Tom did great for having zero flight experience
Love it! Looked like he couldve stopped on the grass if it didnt shut off! He had a decent attitude when he landed, just hit really hard. It would be nice if the simulator would have went a little longer before shutting off.
Did you notice how Scott lost track of flying when pettor kept asking him questions? Thats what happens when ATC keeps interrupting. They don't realize that you're just trying to fly the plane. Then listen to instructions.
I watched Tom's video. On his attempt without auto pilot as he was miss aligned and other issues were going on, I kept thinking "Go Around! Go Around!" Something your videos have taught me pilots should do when all is not going well during the landing. Great video, and you spoke with such a calm cool voice even as Tom was stressing.
@@MentourPilot Could you explain why? I even think that if we have enough fuel we actually SHOULD knowingly execute a go-around on the 1st approach, in order to 1) feel more comfortable with learning, as we know we're not landing yet, just consuming information and familiarizing; 2) actually, learn to go around in case we have something unexpected during the subsequent "real" landing. Kind of, let's use some fuel we have for the learning first.
@@MentourPilot Throttle on TOGA, retract flaps a bit and pull slightly up? I am not a pilot though, so I am probably missing many things... would bei interesting and very appreciated if you could explain the challenges with a go around more.
Oh my word, this was amazing, I’m in my seventies, a widow, once so scared of flying.......now, in awe, dear Petter, enthralling video, with Tom all the way! Thanks so much.
This is a great video. Often in the accident reports Petter talks about task saturation in difficult situations. Seeing him have to remind Tom, a highly intelligent, but task saturated at that point, individual, that if his speed was 290 and now it's 260 then yes, it's reducing, seems to me a great example of this.
When I fist saw this I thought it was real. My heart was in my mouth. Then I realized it was a sim. I exhaled. Thank goodness. I went in a c141 sim and it really feels like a plane. It moves and makes engine noises. It's amazing.
We could see why Petter is such a great training/check pilot. Very patient with Tom throughout the landing regime. Another great Mentour video. Thank you so much. Maybe Tom goes to get his commercial rating now...
Totally love the video. It reminds me how overloaded I got at the beginning of my own flight training. I couldn't even hear other pilots talking on the radio during final approach. Tom did really well given the circumstances.
This rings a bell. At the beginning I couldn’t even hear the ATC and once I tried to read back the landing clearance while on short final and nothing came out of my mouth because I was in survival mode haha
An idea for another video in a sim. It’d be cool to see you hop in another airframe you’ve had no experience on (say an a320) and fly with zero training. It would be cool for highlighting both training and the differences between manufacturers
Petter: "Don't worry. You're clear of any terrain and we're going to get you through this nicely." Petter: (presses button that causes engine 1 to catch fire)
YES PLEASE! I can envision a whole series of videos with all kinds of weird failures built in, and featuring some very unusual characters, I'd name the series "Airplane - the Simulator".
@@gypsysoul1719 Airline pilots routinely deal with things like that in simulator training and testing. You name a weird catastrophic failure, they've probably flown it in sim.
I see people pointing out the difference in how Petter and Tom arranged the two landings in their videos, and I feel that the way Petter did it definitely makes it more positive feeling cuz of the successful landing being the one that the video ended on. Very nice of you!
Even in the crashed attempt, it was still surviveable since the speed wasn't high when he crashed. Everyone should survive the impact, it just comes down to what happens after the crash. If a fire breaks loose, that's not good.
I am not a pilot, but I habitually watch as many episodes as possible- fully hooked. It’s a standard nightly event. That being said…Great job! A serious rookie and a delightfully sinister pro. I loved this episode!
Isn't this entire senerio being positive is assuming you know how to communicate with anyone? I know those radios can be complicated to someone that's never use one
Not sure if you have any simulation experience (any MSFS will do), but the videos get way more exciting (and terrifying) if you do because now you have way better notion about how bad the situation really was for the pilots. It's the same for some engineering background, if you have ever made some planes on Kerbal Space Program or something you get some knowledge about how bad the airplane structure is suffering when operating beyond what it was designed for. You won't become an expert, but you will KNOW.
@@thaedleinad KSP might be a bad example here. I've built planes capable of folding in their wings while in flight and continue on on thrust vectoring.
Tom was a great passenger in permanently updating the instructor about his flight parameters and Petter as a line training captain and most of the time calmness in person really helped to manage the situation to at least keep a fair chance of getting the plane down safely :D Thanks for that collaboration, I really really loved it!
There is one big difference of course for Petter. In his usual routine he trains pilots that already have a pilots license. Tom looked like an aviation enthousiast but also an absolute beginner. So Petter had to tell him literally everything.
@@Dirk-van-den-Berg AFAIK he is also a certified flight instructor, so technically he would be allowed to instruct/train learning pilots (and therefore pilots without a license)
Best. Video. Ever. Well done Tom. We'll gloss over the fully manual attempt. You landed within the airport. I'm sure the cabin crew and emergency services will have got everyone off! Great talk downs from Petter too. Loved the 'Airplane!' reference!
@@mohammadmujahid199 very very unlikely, as you have to carry more fuel that required so you can divert to another airport. When an untrained passenger is being instructed how to make an emergency landing in a small aircraft they do multiple approaches before getting them to land the aircraft.
Tom Scott and Petter Hornfeldt, two of my favourite RUclipsrs together in a dramatic scenario! What more entertainment could I hope for on a Saturday afternoon? Thank you, guys!
This is so awesome!!! I experienced an auto landing in the A380 from LAX to Paris CDG. The pilots couldn’t even see the runway as we were flying in pure thick mash potatoes fog when the captain made a PA just before descending : the autopilot will take care of the landing. Good Lord! I thought. Well it did an awesome job with a perfect and smooth landing. I was in total awe with the powerful and precise engineering of this big giant bird! Thank you for this expected video!! Dreams can come true! The perfect team you 2!! ✨✨✨✨
Yes, for example he needed the flaps lever explained to him during the autopilot segment but on the manual segment he seemed to already know how to work the lever
This shows how easy it is to be overwhelmed by the workload and get disorientated without paying attention to your instruments. Makes you appreciate what pilots have to stay on top of to ensure it doesn’t happen to them.
Having watched your channel for years, I’m so proud of how you have grown it. Tom is a massive RUclipsr so this is such a sign of the channel’s growth and development. Absolutely fantastic!
His intention of atleast putting it down on the taxiway is actually a smart choice judging by his current scenario! I was definetely impressed he didnt try to turn for the runway (which definetely would have ended up with a wingstrike or complete off alignment of everything)
A very good decision in hindsight and given the proximity of emergency services, I'd expect the crash to be survivable, so long as an evacuation could still be done.
the very fact that he is basically training to teach a civilian to land a airplane like this for a demonstration he is the man to call in a emergency like this. Ill take him for a pilot any day. One of the top 10 coolest videos on youtube. Highly educational.
Just saw you on Tom's channel and was pleasantly surprised. My favourite pilot collaborating with my favourite British youtuber was not something I expected
Watching the video it struck me how having a diagram of the cockpit instruments for the aircraft in question is something that is almost essential for a successful landing when giving manual instructions to a passenger.
I am a 2000 hours competition glider pilot. I did recently a B737 NG simulator session assisted in the first officer seat by a professional B727 qualified pilot. We did 2 complete flights, take off and landing and I did not have to much problems making landings that were smooth. I cannot emphasize enough to advise youngsters who dream to become airliners pilots to start their aeronautical career by learning flying gliders. It is the best introduction to aviation you can imagine !
Possibly the best of your videos. Shows the complexity of controlling and landing an airliner in a very graphic way. Well done Tom on following instructions and you Petter for concise and clear instructions. More like this would be fun and educational.
This is you at your finest Captain! Well done Tom! This type of production quality, enthusiasm, energy and learning is why Mentour Pilot is growing as quickly as it is. Congratulations Petter and Tom. A fabulous episode.
That was an excellent episode! I enjoyed every minute and had a fever with Tom. The fact that it's "only" a simulator flight didn't make it any less exciting. Very well done Tom. The ground staff did a good job too. 🙂 Best channel ever!
The stress on his face and in his voice was just how I would have felt. At least he landed it on it's wheels, I would have had it go in like a lawn dart! Fantastic video.
@@MentourPilot Honestly i would love to repeat this experiment with myself. I uised to play a lot of Microsoft Flight Simulator and managed to take off and land twice in a real flight simulator here in Vienna. Wonder how i woudl do alone in the cockpit, just with you over the radio
Excellent work, both of you! From being able to relay instructions via radio to being able to figure them out while sitting in an unfamiliar cockpit, also to whoever edited the video! Even the landing with autopilot was exhilarating to watch. Bravo to everyone involved in this one, I was super excited when I saw Tom and Petter were doing a collaboration it made me very excited, I was not disappointed in the outcome.
Usually, I don't watch a video having a duration of 40 minutes long. But, I watched this Mentour Pilot video from start to end completely and I didn't feel bored even for a single second. Absolutely fantastic content Sir! Already liked the video.
A fascinating experiment would be: How would a teenager (or young adult) with experience in DCS or Microsoft Flight Sim fare vs. just a regular passenger? A lot of this muti-tasking and spatial visualisation are things that many modern (and not so modern) games excel at teaching! Great job Scott! I certainly don't think I could do much better.
Yeah, that'd be interesting, I grew up playing FS9, and then FSX constantly, and was able to remember most of these processes without Mentor mentioning them. I'd love to try a simulator out like this.
I’m curious too from MSFS, but I have to wonder how a sim player would fare, particularly one that has several 737 pilots as friends who take great enjoyment from mixing drinking games with teaching me. (Hey, I’m at least as good as a drunk pilot. 🤣)I wonder how a simmer who is used to receiving an endless stream of instructions would fare. It actually reminds me of a conversation we had once when they had to go for their mandatory retraining and testing and one jokingly lamented that they couldn’t just dress me in one of their uniforms and smuggle me in to play. My immediate response was to remark that they’d just laugh as I panic and I would probably set a new world record for how many times the word “f**k” would be recorded on a CVR if the simulator had one. 😆 Good times.
Saw this on Tom's channel a year ago without knowing who Mentour Pilot was. Since then, I coincidentally became a MP fan and came across this version. Great to see. Like most people with a dangerous and limited RUclips understanding of aviation, I'm confident I could land any plane with minimal instruction!😂
This video made me a bit emotional. I think about all of the hard work, innovation, and all of the accidents, mishaps, and tragedies, that all contributed to the design, the technology, the procedures and training that have resulted in a marvel like this aircraft and the crews that fly them - it is truly inspiring!
This was so awesome, two of my favorite channels in one video, thanks so much to both Mentour and Tom!!!! Surely made my Saturday absolutely fantastic 🤩
I once tried that ... Couldn't get the manual landing right but let me tell 10 years of flight simulator games HELPs a lot ... Already knew all the autopilot settings and ILS procedures but my God getting yourself follow the glide slope and localizer and timing the flare isn't easy! I didn't butter it ... I made the Ryanair signature! If you have no experience at ALL Tom did quite well manually!
Hey I get you there. 🤣 When I was just about getting to the stage where I could land mostly reliably when playing MSFS and only broke the landing gear once every so often I would remark that I must have some Ryanair in me… which amused and annoyed some of my friends who seemed to take great fun from teaching me mixed in with the drinking game, depending on which airline they flew for. It was simple enough. We’d sit around my tv and Xbox in my living room and take turns landing, each competing to do it the best. But, for every successful landing the player would have to drink a shot. Except for me. It still takes awhile even now but eventually it levels the playing field. But until that time I have the benefit of between four and six pilots talking me through it. The only downside is that sometimes I have to remind them to talk one at a time or they’ll overload my poor little groundling mind. But once it gets to the point where they’re either breaking the landing gear, going on runway excursions and stuff like that I don’t bother with the exemption from the shots and chaos ensues until I struggle to program the sim. Then it’s tv time until either home time or they pass out on my sofa. I’m sure it’s vastly accelerated my progress, but all the same I’m perfectly content to keep my feet on the ground and play MSFS with the same bullheaded stubbornness of any Soulslike player. 😆 It’s also a lot of fun if occasionally exasperating.
Ryanair really isn't that bad, But some every day PILOTS are ! I've had more smooth landings with Ryanair, than I had with 'Turkish Airlines' or even KLM ! 'Bad Ryanair Landings' are just a MEME !
"I made the Ryanair signature!" Probably what I would do. Safer to put the thing down than to overdo the butter, float up up and away, and stall out 30 feet above the ground.
It's a really interesting psychological study, too, how the stress builds in Tom as he's trying desperately to keep up with instructions and act upon them. Well done you for giving it a whirl! And Petter, what a brilliant instructor you are. Patient, clear and concise, and focussed. There's no tension in your voice, which is excellent - when we can't *see* the person on the other end we go by audio clues and any sort of tension becomes almost immediately apparent.
I was following Tom before I followed you, but your announcement had me filled with joy for both episodes! I think I would have gone around. A thing I first learned in KSP: When you're at an angle to the runway you want to aim for a point halfway to the runway, not at the start of the runway, otherwise you'd have to turn while landing!
My appreciation for pilots has grown now more. It takes a lot of skill, concentration, patience and problem solving skills to fly. Very well explanation given to Tom to fly. Well done Peter. Also well done Tom for the performance given. Even if it crashed at least some people might have been saved because you were at the airport.
Petter, this was just fantastic. I loved the little smirks when Tom tried to land the plane by hand. But in both scenarios your advice was calm and logical. And your belly laugh at the end when the plane landed itself - priceless. Thanks for a fun video - it's so nice to see you play. I'm a (low level) aviation enthusiast but the intelligence, effort, compassion and, in this casde, humour, is the reason you have the subs you do. Good work, mate!
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I absolutely love your content on your channels!! My most flown aircraft on my flight simulator happen to be the 737-700, 737-800, and 737 Max 8. I do fly some of the other Boeing aircraft from time to time as well, but nowhere near as often. Oddly enough, I ended up with the Thrustmaster Airbus Officer’s Edition Flight Stick and Throttle Quadrant only because they more than doubled the price of the Boeing Edition. This one is a little easier to travel with as well. Being blind, I have ways of hand flying the aircraft and landing, but do to calibration difficulties, I much prefer auto landing, and watching this definitely was a help.❤
Well done, landing in Dublin.
The Autopilot's are a magician's invevention.
Yes your Dear Dad would have loved it. Did you know that he taught on those too?
Two signs of a great production:
1) You can understand with audio off, and video on.
A+
2) You can understand with audio on, and video off.
A+
As a onetime nervous flyer I learned to close my eyes and visualize myself in my mothers womb. The ambient noise was what my mother heard while she did her best to keep me safe. A jet is a strong yet fragile
Wrong button sorry…trying to be profound! …fragile container carrying SOB and doing all within their power to keep them safe. The comparison worked, and I never was nervous again.
Thank you.
Have you covered the Tupolev TU-154 crash in Longyearbyen? I learned of it when I travelled there in 2016, it's fascinating from a malfunction/work overload/language barrier perspective, and also the following fallout from the loss of passengers resulting in the nearby mining town needing to be evacuated (it is still a ghost town to this day, very eerie to visit, even school papers still out on desks. I could likely dig up some photos). Highly recommended to take a look at!
If you want to see this from my perspective, with a couple of the bits that didn't make it in here, that's over on my channel. And to all the Mentour team -- this was a heck of an experience, thanks so much!
It as awesome to have you onboard Tom, you can be my wingman anytime!!
You did a great job Tom! Nice work. I'd fly with you any day!
Never expected a Tom Scott and Mentour Pilot crossover 🤯
THE COLAB WE DIDNT THINK WE NEEDED BUT ITS HERE AND IM SO GLAD
Tom Scott buttered the biscuits
Pretty hilarious lines there from Tom. My favorite: "Standby... flying". Every pilot should use that phrase whenever ATC is pestering them.
It’s true! It’s a very good thing to say!
Tom quickly learning aviate, navigate, communicate 😆
Right.
Agreed - I cracked up at that one, though I think it has to take a close second behind "if this is an ejector seat, I'm gonna kill him..."
Fantastic collab and really interesting to see both videos!
“I can’t copy the number, im flying!!” - 1NR
The crossover we didnt ask for but surely needed
Absolutely!!
I personally wished for this to happen so badly tbh xD
Now we just need add James Hoffman to bring out a perfectly made airplane latte.
Yeah, it’s quite funny when there’s two RUclipsrs you follow and think of as entirely separate and you don’t even think about other people possibly following both channels as well and all of a sudden, there’s a crossover of those two. Thank you!
Absolutely fantastic.
I'm actually really impressed with how well Tom communicated. Remembering to communicate while stressed is HARD.
That is sort of his job if you think about it
So true, so true.
It's why we all should admire people who are drowning when they remember to keep screaming.
What's even more amazing is that he did communicate but didn't prioritze it over flying the airplane, basicly following the "aviate, navigate, communicate" which is pilot's mantra in case of emergency. Even though the navigation part was rough.
i would be impressed if Tom wasn't a hand picked "random person" he is speaking like he already knows basic flying techniques... to be impressive i need to see some dude taken off the street on his way to buy his morning milk thrown in the simulator.. not this chosen person that essentially knows what he is doing.
@testdriveheroes811 he clearly doesn't know what he's doing. I've bever stepped foot in a cockpit. All the knowledge I have is from watching videos and even then I barely know anything. About the only thing Tom had going for him is that he knew how to communicate, which is not that rare of a skill.
I love how tense he is saying he can’t see any runway only clouds and you told him (with a smile) “Yep that’s how we fly. “ I think Tom gained some mad respect for your job in those moments.
And when he witnessed the autopilot in action he got mad respect for planes 😁👍
Petter was really enjoying himself :)
If this ever happened in a real life emergency I can't tell if that response would be incredibly terrifying or incredibly reassuring. :p
@@paulscott2037 Porqué no los dos? 😅 At least the professional pilot sounding like things are normal is SOME level of reassuring, even while basically crapping yourself with fear, I imagine.
We all did.
Tom: We’re flying in clouds. Petter: Yes that’s what we do and grins. That was gold
HUGE EGO
@@Grandremone the one thing Petter doesn't have is a huge ego. He loves what he does, that's all. And why shouldn't he?
@@Grandremone what??? Lol how
I came late in the video and thought it was a real scenario. My heart was in my mouth thinking he was in a real aircraft. When mentour laughed I recognized it was a simulator. Its precious. A good prank for someone not realizing its a simulator. Its worth traveling to Dublin. He says " flying" like he's talking to a ATC.
The funny thing is that I said it before he responed xD
“Can you see the runway?”
“No I have nothing but clouds”
Petter chuckling “that’s too bad”
😂😂😂😂😂😂
think that was my favourite part of the whole video
@@biosparkles9442 Petter could have been cruel and instigated an aircraft inversion during cloud-out, but thankfully for Tom's continued living, he did not.
Definitely not a a confidence building remark by Petter, but really hilarious anyway!
@@classic_movie_trailers I kinda doubt this simulator can actually do an inversion. Might do ~60 degrees, but no way it'll do upside down.
It's good to see that he was seriously nervous which is a credit to the realism of the simulator and is how you would be in a real life situation, instead of thinking it's a simulator so it doesn't really matter.
it does matter when your a real pilot and trying to pass the exam
The thing I really appreciate about Tom, besides his infectious enthusiasm, is his willingness to try virtually anything and to upload the video even if he horribly messes it up.
My favorite was his singing with Beth Roars!!
I think his rollercoaster video is the best representation of that. I could feel his fear through the video in that episode.
To be fair, he did get it on the ground both times! Yes, the manual landing was a little bit 'off' but in real life I wouldn't be surprised if many walked away from that one?
Thanks for watching buddy!!
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Tom is a pretty sharp guy with all kinds of technical experience. It’s amazing how complicated this is with a normal, perfectly functional aircraft. Imagine what it’s like during an emergency. Mad respect to the pilots.
Imagine how bad it can get when _some_ of the control surfaces are reversed. So it is not a straightforward inversion, but a crazy nonlinear situation when the control surfaces are working against each other.
@@adamrak7560 I mean, I know there has been freak accidents where some sort of control inversion has occurred, but I don't see how that is relevant in the context of this video's scenario? The chances of both total pilot incapacitation _and_ significant technical failure combined are just so abysmally small. But, to answer your question, if a passenger had to take control, and there was then a control inversion failure, everyone on board would assuredly be dead. I think OP meant the stress of the emergency _of total pilot incapacitation itself,_ not with any other added complications.
You should see Tom's channel where he TRIES to land it manually!
And, lets not forget that Tom is an extremely good communicator. That is at least as important as the technical experience
@@mnxs I grew up in the industry and I'm currently a first officer at a major. I have never in my life heard of a control inversion. Cite your sources?
I'm a trainer and I could see how you were deploying all the skills people need for feeling like they're in safe hands. Even pointing out noises which will happen. Truly your vocation, chief!
And the Trim Wheels - always catch the unwary off guard! Tom really peaked freak-out at that moment, but 'Perfectly Normal' from the instructor immediately squashes heightened anxiety.
total layman here: My only "complaint" is when Tom started to panic, Mentour did not show much effort to deescalate Tom's fear, Now, that could have been cut in editing. But I think the reason Tom crashed is because he panicked and stopped listening. Unless the emergency was an equipment failure, wouldn't it have been prudent to have Tom throttle up, and pitch up, and make another lap somewhere around the time he stated he intended to land on the taxiway? (honest question, )
_"all the skills people need for feeling like they're in safe hands. Even pointing out __-noises-__ THINGS which will happen"_ - exactly like that guy that happened to be "my" dentist, many years ago. Needles to say, it was a VERY, VERY good approach of his.
Being able to vocalise every single step from memory (visualising) rather than having it in front of him and then articulate those into clear directions for someone who's never seen the insides of a cockpit before was truly remarkable.
@@JSmith73 Many years ago I came across this expression "it's like trying to teach a six years old kid how to tie shoelaces over the phone".
(I believe it was David Pogue, in one of his "...For Dummies" books.)
Can I just say the excitement and the bounce in his step that Mentour had when he was heading over to congratulate Tom is a sign of an amazing teacher
Petter is awesome. Great personality.
Your comment confused me, then I realised I was only half-way through the video.
Damn straight. Such a great teacher!
I think that the autopilot landing was first and manual later. I Think that he would still survive the manual one as well - he just landed on the grass ;)
This looks like the most anxiety drenched, stressful fun I never knew I wanted to have
"anxiety drenched, stressful fun" describes 80% of Tom Scott videos.
It was much better and more real (duuh) than most of the movies I've watched.
Anxiety, exhilaration, fear, panic, wonder, elation, another panic, self satisfaction, concentration, focus......all that was relayed in this extraordinary exercise.
@@johns8364 And then he learned to ride a bicycle.
Damn, even though that was just a simulator my heart was in my mouth the whole time. What a great video.
Thank you! Glad you thought so!
19:59: Mentour Pilot: you see the green button
Tom: Confirm. *Reaches for button instinctively, as I would*
Mentour Pilot: Cool. Don't push that or it'll turn off.
Tom: *returns hands fully back to chest*
I love both channels. Very unexpected colab. Glad I found it.
I don't work with aircraft but I still learned very early on that if I'm just pointing something out to someone as a button I should always preface it with "Don't push anything yet" specifically because I know that they will push it
16:36 Definitely a very survivable crash, which is quite impressive for someone with no flight experience.
A good a landing is one you can walk away from. A great landing is one you can use the aircraft again after.
Assuming the taxiway was vacant
@@Shipwrecker97I would hope that if this was real that the parallel taxiway would be cleared of all obstacles by ATC as soon as it became clear that an amateur was at the controls.
Honestly at less than 3m/s vertical speed this was simply a hard landing not a crash. I think the autopilot just crashed him, because he hit the grass.
@@nemo-x for sure. woulda just rolled through the grass, depending on how soft/hard it was. even in the worst case scenario of it being so soft it rips gear off and you end up with things catching fire, id guess he would have an 80%+ survival rate of passengers from that one, if not 100.
I love Tom's remark at 25:27 "I'm not sure if that's more or less terrifying than seeing the ground"...
Yeah, that says a lot of how realistic it felt.
When you referred to the autopilot as the 3rd crew member, I immediately pictured an inflatable pilot appearing in the other seat.
Hahaha! We should have put that in.. that would have been awesome
Named "Otto"
Hi son, have you ever seen a grown man naked?
"Good luck! We're all counting on you."
Always make sure to keep it fully inflated using the crotch valve.
Even the auto land has a lot going on. Petter was like a proud Papa at the end of it. Great job!
The third crew member sure needed a lot of help from the second member.
@@CTSFanSam they could've made it a single button to set everything up, but planes and Boeing especially insist on the pilots knowing every little detail systems are doing, and for a good reason
@@CTSFanSam for safety reasons it needs to be made that way. When you know what you're doing the extra complexity means you can easily see if the autopilot is failing, and especially when landing, things like the heading, speed, and altitude you need may change up to the last second depending on weather and traffic, so it can't be a one-button system. But if you watched Petter's videos on everything you need to do to land a plane it's more obvious how complex it actually is to fly a plane, and how much the autopilot simplifies that task despite its complexity.
If Apple or Microsoft had designed it everything would be buried deep inside the system and you wouldn't know what's happening if anything goes wrong because they're scared to expose their users to actual technical information, and only give you a summarized glance at what's happening. It's why you can't use an ordinary computer to fly a plane
@@thesteelrodent1796 If microsoft designed it, it would require a subscription. A fee per landing I would imagine (and a fee for take off, a fee for en-route, etc).
@@CTSFanSam AND a ransom fee to clear the bugs while in flight.
Man I’ve watched a lot a lot of
Mentour pilot videos and felt I somewhat knew my way around a 737 cockpit. This really
Illustrates how difficult it really is to fly one of these.
I hear you. I knew this was going to be very difficult to pull off, but this illustrated to me that it's *way, way* more difficult than that.
Not even all the way through yet, but I can tell that Tom's best trait for this sort of thing is his communication skills. He's very clear about what he's seeing.
That comes across in some of his videos. See also the one he did with Sorted Food.
When he started to really get anxious and overwhelmed I just wanted to tell him it's ok, calm down like 10% and refocus. Then get him to do some more simple exercises to get the feel for the plane before executing the approach. It was obviously stressing him out and it was affecting his ability to keep everything under control.
I would say he did a really good job at communicating, he just needed to know it was ok to take his time, and to breathe, and that he was doing a great job at learning everything on the fly so far, just keep at it.
Kudos to Tom Scott for giving it his best and for sharing something that didn't go perfectly, I think that shows a lot of courage and self-awareness.
And kudos to Mentour Pilot for making this happen, and for being a great coach. I understand that you were trying to get him to land with minimal training and with time pressure so none of what I said was a criticism on your coaching. I could just see he was stressing and wanted him to nail that landing haha
Petter is that kind of person to make somebody, not interested AT ALL in aviation, deeply regret to not have chosen this as a career path. Just SO incredibly inspiring!!
There is always MSFS 2020 :)
Even 2 years later, he is doing that to me right now!
Well that was so gripping I'm going to watch it twice. Nice job to both of you!
One thing I noticed, Petter had a hard time not falling back on technical jargon when describing where he wanted Tom's attention. It's really hard to put yourself in the head of a layperson when you live and breathe this stuff everyday.
Yes I noticed that too. For example glare shield instead of windshield. I didn't know that one.
I was actually surprised how much Tom understood without explaining (even in the auto landing). There was a similar video made by Captain Joe 5 years ago and it took much longer for his accidental pilot to get to know the controls.
@@larryphotography _I think_ the glare shield is the thin blade that comes out below the windshield and above the autopilot panel. I would welcome a correction
@@larryphotography The 'glare shield' is the top part of what we would call the 'dash board'. It is a cover sticking out beyond the top of the instrument panel, to prevent sunlight from the windscreen shining down onto the instruments and making them hard to read.
But yes, it is jargon that a non-pilot wouldn't know.
"Yes, that's normal, it's just following the programmed LNAV track..."
This was super cool. A while back a buddy and I paid to do a 737 Sim that they open to the public. We spent 3 hours in that thing and I was beat at the end. Totally captured the stress and systems management aspect of modern piloting. Well done.
Watching the autopilot first on Tom Scott and then watching manual control first on Mentour makes a completely different watching experience
Yes it does
I think, they made that autopilot landing first, while filming..i watched Tom's clip first.. amazing reaction from Tom, while flying
@@jmarkula Yeah, I think artists license has been applied to the final edit of this episode. I had so many questions to the way Tom was reacting and being guided by non other but the Mentour himself! And pretty much all of my concerns were answered by the second part of the video, which leads me ot believe that it was filmed in the reverse order.
@@VasyaIvanovichPupkin Yep, it even says so at the bottom of the screen at 17:52.
@@jrlepage2a03 Ah! I didn't notice it.
The collaboration we never knew we needed! Love this!
And here it is!!
I've been anxiously awaiting this colab, awesome content from both of these channels, thanks!!
@@MentourPilot You first did the AP land and then the manual, right? It's a bit confusing for the viewers since you show them in reversed order and Tom magically seems to know all the things that you then explain "later" ;)
@@RandomUser2401 yes, we did it that way because I wanted to differentiate AND I wanted to show how stressful it is when you are flying manual compared to autopilot.
@@MentourNow 👍🏻 I see
Ive felt genuine emotion from this. For many years now, it has always been my dream to get into a 737 simulator and put myself to the test. Hope some day i have the chance to do so.
I have a relatively affordable simulator in my hometown but never got the courage to go haha :)
Same here 😄
You will someday
Definitely a dream of mine too. The manual attempt certainly looked very stressful, but even with the autopilot flying that must still be a really cool experience.
That was absolutely brilliant! I felt Tom's emotions from start to finish. If I were "ever" in this kind of position where it's just me up there, it would be a tremendous comfort knowing that "you" were talking me down to a successful landing. How cool was this? A typical passenger safely landing a huge plane like that? Surely you can't be serious!
Seeing Petter's glee as Tom landed was incredibly infectious. And man, it's amazing how good those simulators are considering how much stress Tom went through. This is why you should always appreciate your pilots, folks. Much, Much harder and stressful than people realize.
Just thinking about the amount of basic training needed to just get into even more advanced training and then continue training just to do your profession. I requires some real heart and dedication. Mad respect
Well, no.
If it's hard and stressful for a trained pilot they're in the wrong job. That's what training is for. It becomes muscle memory so it's NOT harder and more stressful. You need confidence in critical jobs and a strong belief in yourself to handle situations. A typical landing should never be stressful.
@@johndoh5182
It's a human trait you can't train away. That's is why aviation is all about procedures. It can still be stressful, a high workload will stress anyone out and potentially lead to mistakes Watch mentour pilots videos and you'll see very senior captains get into trouble. It's about not reaching that point to keep stress levels down and mistakes at a minimum
@@rosen9425 You're just repeating what the other person said. They never claimed the job could never be stressful but all the "typical" workload and procedures should not result in a high amount of stress. That's what the training and screening are there for. To weed out the ones who can't fulfill these criteria.
@@Pit1993x
You're all over the place conflating all sort of things here
one thing is listening what should be done, and completely other thing is seeing complete non-pilot actually doing that instructions. That was intense!
Yep.. imagine standing in a briefing room, not being able to see what he did.. 😅
@@MentourPilot Yeah, that's actually more unnerving, coz you hold the responsibility of guiding the guy
When you tell someone to aim for the beginning of a runway, you kind of assume they'll know to get on the centreline first. Fascinating to see that that wasn't the case.
@@MentourPilot I have a hard enough time giving people directions over the phone to a place down the street! :D I can't imagine having to be able to visualize the whole cockpit and the state its in, then give instructions on how to land the aircraft.
I laughed far more than I should at "If this is an ejector seat I'm gonna kill him". That particular combination of anxiety and frayed temper is just too relatable.
If that was an ejector seat, he would kill anyone else on board lol.
I'm fairly sure the 737MAX isn't fitted with an ejector seat. You need the 737IOA (I'm Outa Here) model for that.
@@gcewing
The 737 Bail Out used for training. Ticket prices are.. free. As is the hard liquor 😁
Pity they didn't have a fake ejection button in there. Must hit 3 times, first to initiate, next to confirm, next to consign all passengers to an early grave. :P
@@iwansays Adding ejector seats for every passenger and crew member would add a lot of extra weight.
I have never been so stressed and excited as viewer. Tom did a great job in both simulations. Well done and thanks to you Petter for this great video.
The autoland vs the manual really says something about what it means to "fly the plane". Nicely done, both of you!
I've seen many people autoland (a simulator), but I've never seen anyone without training manually land without incident. Tom missed the runway, and landed hard (the simulated people probably lived, but the plane is toast after that hard a landing.)
@@jfbeam only thing I can think of that has actually happens is that a plane landed so hard the wheel actually went through the floor of the cabin and injured a passenger. I’m sure 99% of the passengers on the manual flying probably would’ve lived. Even if someone was injured they would have the whole suite of emergency responders and equipment but Tom did great for having zero flight experience
Can you imagine the early days of aviation where pilots would take off, fly, navigate, and land manually all the way.
@@classic_movie_trailersThe aircraft were less complex back then :)
Its interesting how immersive the simulator is. When he started, he was quite casual. About 6 minutes in, you can hear the tension begin.
even i was tense watching him land that heavy! how awesome.
Love it! Looked like he couldve stopped on the grass if it didnt shut off! He had a decent attitude when he landed, just hit really hard. It would be nice if the simulator would have went a little longer before shutting off.
Yeah, I think the sim recorded a crash because he had the left wheel in the grass. But it’s a survivable crash for sure
38:26 "We're all counting on you". Oh, that's just mean 🤣🤣🤣
40 minutes passed like it was nothing. I was on the edge of my seat for the entire video. Incredible!
Me too. It was fun.
Did you notice how Scott lost track of flying when pettor kept asking him questions? Thats what happens when ATC keeps interrupting. They don't realize that you're just trying to fly the plane. Then listen to instructions.
Same. 😄
"Good luck, we're all counting on you." That was brilliant!
Hahaha! 😉😂😂
I am both delighted - and not at all surprised - that Tom knew the reference. 🤣
@@MentourPilot I assume you've been waiting quite some time to drop that quote into a landing simulation.
"....and don't call me Shirley!"
At least he didn’t ask him if he likes gladiator movies 😂
I watched Tom's video. On his attempt without auto pilot as he was miss aligned and other issues were going on, I kept thinking "Go Around! Go Around!" Something your videos have taught me pilots should do when all is not going well during the landing. Great video, and you spoke with such a calm cool voice even as Tom was stressing.
Yes, but a go-around for someone without training would likely be much more dangerous than a controlled crash on the airport perimeter.
@@MentourPilot Really? Interesting...
@@brunoais Full throttle wouldn't be a good idea near the ground if you don't know what you're doing.
@@MentourPilot Could you explain why? I even think that if we have enough fuel we actually SHOULD knowingly execute a go-around on the 1st approach, in order to 1) feel more comfortable with learning, as we know we're not landing yet, just consuming information and familiarizing; 2) actually, learn to go around in case we have something unexpected during the subsequent "real" landing. Kind of, let's use some fuel we have for the learning first.
@@MentourPilot Throttle on TOGA, retract flaps a bit and pull slightly up? I am not a pilot though, so I am probably missing many things... would bei interesting and very appreciated if you could explain the challenges with a go around more.
This is an exercise all pilots need to do as part of CRM training! I mean guiding down a PAX via a radio! This was amazing to watch!
Oh my word, this was amazing, I’m in my seventies, a widow, once so scared of flying.......now, in awe, dear Petter, enthralling video, with Tom all the way! Thanks so much.
Thank you for watching! Great to hear that you liked it! 💕
Are you less scared now watching aviationvideos and have experts like Petter explain it all to you?
This is a great video. Often in the accident reports Petter talks about task saturation in difficult situations. Seeing him have to remind Tom, a highly intelligent, but task saturated at that point, individual, that if his speed was 290 and now it's 260 then yes, it's reducing, seems to me a great example of this.
This is certainly humbling to a hotshot on sims. Every passenger should try it & recognize the significance of what pilots do.
Thanks for watching buddy!!
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When I fist saw this I thought it was real. My heart was in my mouth. Then I realized it was a sim. I exhaled. Thank goodness. I went in a c141 sim and it really feels like a plane. It moves and makes engine noises. It's amazing.
Mad respect to the pilots and also the engineers who built these machines.
Better respect to the software PROGRAMMER !
Wow, that was intense. Loved the Airplane reference at around 38:30
We could see why Petter is such a great training/check pilot. Very patient with Tom throughout the landing regime. Another great Mentour video. Thank you so much. Maybe Tom goes to get his commercial rating now...
Bro this collaboration is amazing, never saw it coming
Those are the best collabs! 💕💕
Totally love the video. It reminds me how overloaded I got at the beginning of my own flight training. I couldn't even hear other pilots talking on the radio during final approach. Tom did really well given the circumstances.
He really did!
This rings a bell. At the beginning I couldn’t even hear the ATC and once I tried to read back the landing clearance while on short final and nothing came out of my mouth because I was in survival mode haha
I love seeing different RUclipsrs get together for stuff like this!
It was SO much fun to do!
@@MentourPilot Thank you!!!
An idea for another video in a sim. It’d be cool to see you hop in another airframe you’ve had no experience on (say an a320) and fly with zero training. It would be cool for highlighting both training and the differences between manufacturers
Petter: "Don't worry. You're clear of any terrain and we're going to get you through this nicely."
Petter: (presses button that causes engine 1 to catch fire)
Now that would be utterly cruel to do that to poor Tom. However it actually can be done by an instructor at a more advanced level!!
YES PLEASE! I can envision a whole series of videos with all kinds of weird failures built in, and featuring some very unusual characters, I'd name the series "Airplane - the Simulator".
@@gypsysoul1719 Airline pilots routinely deal with things like that in simulator training and testing. You name a weird catastrophic failure, they've probably flown it in sim.
I see people pointing out the difference in how Petter and Tom arranged the two landings in their videos, and I feel that the way Petter did it definitely makes it more positive feeling cuz of the successful landing being the one that the video ended on. Very nice of you!
Even in the crashed attempt, it was still surviveable since the speed wasn't high when he crashed. Everyone should survive the impact, it just comes down to what happens after the crash. If a fire breaks loose, that's not good.
It's worth noting that the simulator treats hard landings and landings outside the runway as a crash, even if it's surviveable.
I am not a pilot, but I habitually watch as many episodes as possible- fully hooked. It’s a standard nightly event. That being said…Great job! A serious rookie and a delightfully sinister pro. I loved this episode!
Isn't this entire senerio being positive is assuming you know how to communicate with anyone? I know those radios can be complicated to someone that's never use one
Not sure if you have any simulation experience (any MSFS will do), but the videos get way more exciting (and terrifying) if you do because now you have way better notion about how bad the situation really was for the pilots.
It's the same for some engineering background, if you have ever made some planes on Kerbal Space Program or something you get some knowledge about how bad the airplane structure is suffering when operating beyond what it was designed for.
You won't become an expert, but you will KNOW.
@@thaedleinad KSP might be a bad example here. I've built planes capable of folding in their wings while in flight and continue on on thrust vectoring.
Tom was a great passenger in permanently updating the instructor about his flight parameters and Petter as a line training captain and most of the time calmness in person really helped to manage the situation to at least keep a fair chance of getting the plane down safely :D
Thanks for that collaboration, I really really loved it!
There is one big difference of course for Petter. In his usual routine he trains pilots that already have a pilots license. Tom looked like an aviation enthousiast but also an absolute beginner. So Petter had to tell him literally everything.
@@Dirk-van-den-Berg AFAIK he is also a certified flight instructor, so technically he would be allowed to instruct/train learning pilots (and therefore pilots without a license)
Not like that matters because this would be an emergency
@@Sinned1208 I'll ask him on twitter. I'll come back to you. He actually answers me sometimes.
@@adrianotravis6833 even in an emergency the tower would do anything to have a type rated instructor on the comms asap
Best. Video. Ever. Well done Tom. We'll gloss over the fully manual attempt. You landed within the airport. I'm sure the cabin crew and emergency services will have got everyone off! Great talk downs from Petter too. Loved the 'Airplane!' reference!
He did an awesome job and it would likely have been fully survivable.
Best video. Ever. - That sums it up perfectly.
Plus the aircraft can be used again.
Result.
@@MentourPilot that's great news ! Are you also going to do analyze the crash ? Obviously without being judgemental of Tom 🙂
Excellent Landing !! AP Landing really rocks and Tom did a awesome job with your assistance to land the plane safely !!
I'm surprised with the first attempt that you didn't get him to go around and try again.
I would love to have a go at doing this.
Same
Most likely there was not enough fuel left for another go around
MS Flight simulator, while not as cool as those simulators, might be good enough to start with
@@mohammadmujahid199 very very unlikely, as you have to carry more fuel that required so you can divert to another airport. When an untrained passenger is being instructed how to make an emergency landing in a small aircraft they do multiple approaches before getting them to land the aircraft.
@@guiorgy I wouldn't be able to log any of those hours so not something I'm interested in spending my time or money on.
Tom Scott and Petter Hornfeldt, two of my favourite RUclipsrs together in a dramatic scenario! What more entertainment could I hope for on a Saturday afternoon? Thank you, guys!
This is a very unexpected crossover and a big delight :D
I love both you and Toms work
After watching this, my admiration for the skill-set of airline pilots just shot up immensely. Great video. Thanks Petter
This is so awesome!!! I experienced an auto landing in the A380 from LAX to Paris CDG. The pilots couldn’t even see the runway as we were flying in pure thick mash potatoes fog when the captain made a PA just before descending : the autopilot will take care of the landing. Good Lord! I thought. Well it did an awesome job with a perfect and smooth landing. I was in total awe with the powerful and precise engineering of this big giant bird! Thank you for this expected video!! Dreams can come true! The perfect team you 2!! ✨✨✨✨
If I was in Tom's position, I would've responded to "Good luck. We're all counting on you," with "Surely you can't be serious." 😂
Petter should have repeated that line also AFTER the landing!
I am serious. And don't call me Shirley.
"Stand by. Flying."
*chuckles*
🤣
1. Aviate 2. Navigate 3. Communicate
From Tom's reactions, they filmed in the opposite order: he first landed on autopilot, then they tried landing the plane without it.
When they move on to the 2nd half of the video, when he is talking, a small note appears in the bottom left confirming this
Also Tom's own video also has Autopilot first.
I thought that too
Yes, for example he needed the flaps lever explained to him during the autopilot segment but on the manual segment he seemed to already know how to work the lever
@@Xnoob545 Huh. I missed that note.
This was amazing! Two of my favorite tech channels in a surprise collaboration. Thanks very much to both of you. Heading over to Tom's channel now.
Excellent! I hope you will enjoy his version 💕 send some love from me!
This shows how easy it is to be overwhelmed by the workload and get disorientated without paying attention to your instruments. Makes you appreciate what pilots have to stay on top of to ensure it doesn’t happen to them.
Poor Tom's stress was palpable but he did a great job. I can only imagine what he felt when that baby stopped. What an awesome video!
that end was just best thing i have seen in a while. English not my native. but that excitement, joy. that clap. just so sweet...
Glad you enjoyed it! 💕 It was really fun to do
Having watched your channel for years, I’m so proud of how you have grown it. Tom is a massive RUclipsr so this is such a sign of the channel’s growth and development. Absolutely fantastic!
Tom panicking in that cockpit was the best I've seen so far in this year.
"If this is an ejector seat, I'm going to kill him!" Could you imagine if they put those on a 737?
I was just looking at the video, and panicking along, the most stressful mentor pilot video so far!
imagine how freaked out he'd get if he hears the "TERRAIN PULL UP"
His intention of atleast putting it down on the taxiway is actually a smart choice judging by his current scenario! I was definetely impressed he didnt try to turn for the runway
(which definetely would have ended up with a wingstrike or complete off alignment of everything)
A very good decision in hindsight and given the proximity of emergency services, I'd expect the crash to be survivable, so long as an evacuation could still be done.
the very fact that he is basically training to teach a civilian to land a airplane like this for a demonstration he is the man to call in a emergency like this. Ill take him for a pilot any day. One of the top 10 coolest videos on youtube. Highly educational.
yup he's talked about it a few times, he is a flight instructor.
Just saw you on Tom's channel and was pleasantly surprised. My favourite pilot collaborating with my favourite British youtuber was not something I expected
The crossover that suddenly made the rainy, dark swedish fall manageable.
Love both Tom and Petter!
Watching the video it struck me how having a diagram of the cockpit instruments for the aircraft in question is something that is almost essential for a successful landing when giving manual instructions to a passenger.
Yep, it’s really important for setting up the visual picture.
I am a 2000 hours competition glider pilot. I did recently a B737 NG simulator session assisted in the first officer seat by a professional B727 qualified pilot.
We did 2 complete flights, take off and landing and I did not have to much problems making landings that were smooth.
I cannot emphasize enough to advise youngsters who dream to become airliners pilots to start their aeronautical career by learning flying gliders. It is the best introduction to aviation you can imagine !
Possibly the best of your videos. Shows the complexity of controlling and landing an airliner in a very graphic way. Well done Tom on following instructions and you Petter for concise and clear instructions.
More like this would be fun and educational.
This is you at your finest Captain! Well done Tom!
This type of production quality, enthusiasm, energy and learning is why Mentour Pilot is growing as quickly as it is.
Congratulations Petter and Tom. A fabulous episode.
The most exciting 'real life' aviation video I've ever seen.
23:33 It got me laughing, Ejector seat ON A PASSANGER PLANE!
Shhhh! The passengers will hear.
That was an excellent episode! I enjoyed every minute and had a fever with Tom. The fact that it's "only" a simulator flight didn't make it any less exciting. Very well done Tom. The ground staff did a good job too. 🙂 Best channel ever!
The stress on his face and in his voice was just how I would have felt. At least he landed it on it's wheels, I would have had it go in like a lawn dart! Fantastic video.
If I had to land a 737 I would definitely want Petter on the other end of the radio.
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@@MentourPilot Honestly i would love to repeat this experiment with myself. I uised to play a lot of Microsoft Flight Simulator and managed to take off and land twice in a real flight simulator here in Vienna. Wonder how i woudl do alone in the cockpit, just with you over the radio
I would want my dad (also Peter) in the pilot seat and Petter on the other side. My dad has been flying smaller planes for almost 50 years
That’s what I just told my husband- as long as it’s Petter, I would be confident I could do it.
Why? He could not even tell Tom which way to push the trim switches to re-adjust the stabilizer.
I swear Tom Scott pops up everywhere and it’s so unexpected every time 😂
Yeah, he is great to work with though. 💕
No but fr, this was my exact thought😭😂
If this doesn't want to make someone a pilot, I don't know what would. One of the best videos I've ever watched hands down!
Excellent work, both of you! From being able to relay instructions via radio to being able to figure them out while sitting in an unfamiliar cockpit, also to whoever edited the video! Even the landing with autopilot was exhilarating to watch. Bravo to everyone involved in this one, I was super excited when I saw Tom and Petter were doing a collaboration it made me very excited, I was not disappointed in the outcome.
Usually, I don't watch a video having a duration of 40 minutes long. But, I watched this Mentour Pilot video from start to end completely and I didn't feel bored even for a single second. Absolutely fantastic content Sir! Already liked the video.
A fascinating experiment would be: How would a teenager (or young adult) with experience in DCS or Microsoft Flight Sim fare vs. just a regular passenger? A lot of this muti-tasking and spatial visualisation are things that many modern (and not so modern) games excel at teaching!
Great job Scott! I certainly don't think I could do much better.
Yeah, that'd be interesting, I grew up playing FS9, and then FSX constantly, and was able to remember most of these processes without Mentor mentioning them. I'd love to try a simulator out like this.
@@markmcculfor6113 Same. I used to do autolands in FSX using the Wilco 737 addon, and the procedures were pretty much identical.
Why specify age?
@@pepega3344bc teenagers think they can move mountains let alone land a plane with a few years of messing around with their home sim
I’m curious too from MSFS, but I have to wonder how a sim player would fare, particularly one that has several 737 pilots as friends who take great enjoyment from mixing drinking games with teaching me. (Hey, I’m at least as good as a drunk pilot. 🤣)I wonder how a simmer who is used to receiving an endless stream of instructions would fare. It actually reminds me of a conversation we had once when they had to go for their mandatory retraining and testing and one jokingly lamented that they couldn’t just dress me in one of their uniforms and smuggle me in to play. My immediate response was to remark that they’d just laugh as I panic and I would probably set a new world record for how many times the word “f**k” would be recorded on a CVR if the simulator had one. 😆 Good times.
Saw this on Tom's channel a year ago without knowing who Mentour Pilot was.
Since then, I coincidentally became a MP fan and came across this version.
Great to see.
Like most people with a dangerous and limited RUclips understanding of aviation, I'm confident I could land any plane with minimal instruction!😂
Two of my favourite content creators crossing over! Also, Petter has been captain so long he forgot about the mirrored nature of the FO seat 😂
This video made me a bit emotional. I think about all of the hard work, innovation, and all of the accidents, mishaps, and tragedies, that all contributed to the design, the technology, the procedures and training that have resulted in a marvel like this aircraft and the crews that fly them - it is truly inspiring!
This was so awesome, two of my favorite channels in one video, thanks so much to both Mentour and Tom!!!! Surely made my Saturday absolutely fantastic 🤩
That’s absolutely fantastic to hear! 💕💕
I once tried that ... Couldn't get the manual landing right but let me tell 10 years of flight simulator games HELPs a lot ... Already knew all the autopilot settings and ILS procedures but my God getting yourself follow the glide slope and localizer and timing the flare isn't easy! I didn't butter it ... I made the Ryanair signature! If you have no experience at ALL Tom did quite well manually!
Hey I get you there. 🤣 When I was just about getting to the stage where I could land mostly reliably when playing MSFS and only broke the landing gear once every so often I would remark that I must have some Ryanair in me… which amused and annoyed some of my friends who seemed to take great fun from teaching me mixed in with the drinking game, depending on which airline they flew for.
It was simple enough. We’d sit around my tv and Xbox in my living room and take turns landing, each competing to do it the best. But, for every successful landing the player would have to drink a shot. Except for me. It still takes awhile even now but eventually it levels the playing field. But until that time I have the benefit of between four and six pilots talking me through it. The only downside is that sometimes I have to remind them to talk one at a time or they’ll overload my poor little groundling mind. But once it gets to the point where they’re either breaking the landing gear, going on runway excursions and stuff like that I don’t bother with the exemption from the shots and chaos ensues until I struggle to program the sim. Then it’s tv time until either home time or they pass out on my sofa.
I’m sure it’s vastly accelerated my progress, but all the same I’m perfectly content to keep my feet on the ground and play MSFS with the same bullheaded stubbornness of any Soulslike player. 😆 It’s also a lot of fun if occasionally exasperating.
Ryanair really isn't that bad, But some every day PILOTS are ! I've had more smooth landings with Ryanair, than I had with 'Turkish Airlines' or even KLM !
'Bad Ryanair Landings' are just a MEME !
"I made the Ryanair signature!"
Probably what I would do. Safer to put the thing down than to overdo the butter, float up up and away, and stall out 30 feet above the ground.
One of the most exciting episodes - if not THE most exciting one - of Mentour Pilot so far. Absolutely captivating.
It's a really interesting psychological study, too, how the stress builds in Tom as he's trying desperately to keep up with instructions and act upon them. Well done you for giving it a whirl!
And Petter, what a brilliant instructor you are. Patient, clear and concise, and focussed. There's no tension in your voice, which is excellent - when we can't *see* the person on the other end we go by audio clues and any sort of tension becomes almost immediately apparent.
This was awesome, I love that you addressed the passenger landing an airliner a while back and this re-visit/real life demo of that is awesome.
I was following Tom before I followed you, but your announcement had me filled with joy for both episodes! I think I would have gone around. A thing I first learned in KSP: When you're at an angle to the runway you want to aim for a point halfway to the runway, not at the start of the runway, otherwise you'd have to turn while landing!
My appreciation for pilots has grown now more. It takes a lot of skill, concentration, patience and problem solving skills to fly. Very well explanation given to Tom to fly. Well done Peter. Also well done Tom for the performance given. Even if it crashed at least some people might have been saved because you were at the airport.
He's on the taxiway!
Petter, this was just fantastic. I loved the little smirks when Tom tried to land the plane by hand. But in both scenarios your advice was calm and logical. And your belly laugh at the end when the plane landed itself - priceless. Thanks for a fun video - it's so nice to see you play. I'm a (low level) aviation enthusiast but the intelligence, effort, compassion and, in this casde, humour, is the reason you have the subs you do. Good work, mate!
Thanks! I really enjoy your content and attention to detail.
Thank you so much for your wonderful support!!
I can't describe the surprise I felt when I realized that _you_ were the one that supervised Tom Scott in this landing.