Prototype vs Retail - Game Sack

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  • Опубликовано: 13 сен 2019
  • Episode 258 - Games go through a lot as they're developed and it's always fun to look at an early build of a game we know and love to see what changed throughout its life.
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  • @TacticalCat-FJB
    @TacticalCat-FJB 4 года назад +370

    No, Thank Youuuuuuu for keeping Game Sack going Joe. 🥇🎮

    • @Azuris190
      @Azuris190 4 года назад +9

      Yes! Thank you for keeping up this Channel, i really like your Videos! Keep on :D

    • @thesundrinker9530
      @thesundrinker9530 4 года назад +6

      Agree! I look forward to these and always enjoy what I learn.

  • @zoiks6631
    @zoiks6631 4 года назад +324

    Prototype Game Sack was a 2 player game, while the retail version is now single player.

    • @spergerkang5291
      @spergerkang5291 4 года назад +22

      Sad face

    • @Be_LFullStreams
      @Be_LFullStreams 4 года назад +26

      Too soon

    • @MizfitZer0
      @MizfitZer0 4 года назад +23

      I remember the retail having 2 player mode though. I believe it was removed in an update patch not too long ago

    • @alonofisrael4802
      @alonofisrael4802 4 года назад +7

      Yes I love the retail version now it's finally fixed it has no glitches

    • @souleymanediawara7714
      @souleymanediawara7714 4 года назад +3

      i cri everytime 😢

  • @DJ_InYourFace
    @DJ_InYourFace 4 года назад +250

    Did you know that an earlier prototype of Game Sack had another dude sitting next to Joe, but they had to get rid of him because he kept saying "titular"?

    • @adamgr6988
      @adamgr6988 4 года назад +23

      Did you just say tits?

    • @NegiWhite
      @NegiWhite 4 года назад +6

      Did you just say "tits"?

    • @lowdefal6306
      @lowdefal6306 4 года назад +4

      Did you just say tits?

    • @vix_in_japan
      @vix_in_japan 4 года назад +3

      DJ InYourFace did you just say tits?

    • @Arphael
      @Arphael 4 года назад +4

      "did you just said tits?!.." (c)

  • @moonbilal707
    @moonbilal707 4 года назад +155

    The ending skit is good! That guy who took Panzer Dragoon Saga must be Dave!

    • @Real_The_Goof
      @Real_The_Goof 4 года назад +9

      Or is it?

    • @104d_3rr0r_vince
      @104d_3rr0r_vince 4 года назад +3

      It is I, the blind kung fu maaaasteeeeer

    • @Akaikabe
      @Akaikabe 4 года назад +24

      I dunno, if it was Dave he'd take a copy of Snatcher with him too

    • @subtledemisefox
      @subtledemisefox 4 года назад

      @@Akaikabe how do we know it wasn't taken?

    • @Anex952
      @Anex952 4 года назад +14

      Its green dawg

  • @azndrgnboi34
    @azndrgnboi34 4 года назад +3

    I totally forgot how good the Revenge of Shinobu music was. Talk about reminiscent! Thanks for reminding me. Now I have to download the soundtrack and hudle in the corner of my room and cry!

  • @ScooterinAB
    @ScooterinAB 4 года назад +11

    "Syurikin" (the "syu" part anyways) is an alternate way of writing. Romanization of Japanese is really tough and there is no perfect system that lets you go back and forth between Roman characters and Japanese. This type is the form taught in elementary and follows Japanese is a bit more of a systematic way. The form we usually see ("Hepburn," which follows pronunciation rather than systematic construction) isn't really taught in Japan until later in school and doesn't get used much except by linguists and foreign Japanese students.

  • @urmie
    @urmie 4 года назад +66

    Don’t feel like playing anything, youtube getting boring, hits refresh.......a new Game Sack video!! 👌👍

  • @chrissawyer1484
    @chrissawyer1484 4 года назад +6

    "You can't even harm Godzilla at all!"
    That made me smile for some reason.

  • @StevenScott_studio53
    @StevenScott_studio53 4 года назад +11

    Game Sack - Drinking Game: if Joe says
    Mode 7 - Drink
    Blast Processing - Drink
    The Music is amazing - Drink
    Dave makes an appearance - Goto Pub

    • @aaendi6661
      @aaendi6661 4 года назад +1

      I haven't watched the video, but I bet when Joe says "mode 7" it's not even going to be "mode 7" and instead line scrolling or mosaic effects.

    • @frammypoo
      @frammypoo 3 года назад +2

      Steven Scott don’t forget “parallax scrolling”

  • @RodriguezTrendy
    @RodriguezTrendy 4 года назад +57

    Joe is still doing such a great job, but Dave is still and will always be missed.

  • @jorcyd
    @jorcyd 4 года назад +21

    Joe : "Games have to be finished before they are released, right?"
    EA : "Hold my DLC..."

  • @Kevinsyel
    @Kevinsyel 4 года назад +8

    Just some Clarifications on Lion King: You mentioned Stage 2 (infamous Stage 2!) and say that the ostrich randomly disappears when double jumping. This is actually you hitting the hit boxes of one of the nested branches. They play a sound effect so you know you hit it, and when simba comes out, the ostrich is gone because you "hit a branch"
    but it's terrible collision detection that causes it in the first place.

    • @Maru96
      @Maru96 4 года назад

      Wonder if that happens in the genesis version too, the gameplay was more polished in that one I remember.

  • @s.i2898
    @s.i2898 4 года назад +3

    This channel is a huge inspiration and after 8 years of watching this channel its always fresh.

  • @zazaaji9833
    @zazaaji9833 4 года назад +2

    I Absolutely love Game Sack, and thanks so much for keeping it going Joe. Game Sack videos are literally what I like to watch when I wake up and go to bed everyday.

  • @stevejennings3960
    @stevejennings3960 4 года назад +14

    Yessss - it’s a happy sack day with Joe
    Happy Sunday guys!!!

  • @chrisjohnston8792
    @chrisjohnston8792 4 года назад +19

    A new episode at 2 in the morning? Hell yeah!

    • @PAINNN666
      @PAINNN666 4 года назад

      2 it's not morning. It's either Day or Noon\Night.

  • @JetFire0422
    @JetFire0422 4 года назад +3

    I feel like there may be another version of SF 2 for the Genesis. I remember several magazines showing pics of that game with a large black bar where the energy meters were located. I remember the game was scheduled for release on 6/93 and was pushed back several months.

    • @XGargoyle
      @XGargoyle 2 года назад +1

      Yes, there was an early prototype with bars placed outside of the stage drawing area. Also, Blanka was written as "Branka"

  • @terriblecoughing4767
    @terriblecoughing4767 4 года назад +5

    These early morning uploads make me actually appreciate having insomnia

  • @rizkaarifiandi5670
    @rizkaarifiandi5670 4 года назад +6

    "Games are completed before released right ? well, not these days"
    quote of the decade

  • @vaporwave2345
    @vaporwave2345 4 года назад +4

    It's my boy GameSack Joe *back at it again with the Prototypes!*

  • @bitsandpiecesmusic
    @bitsandpiecesmusic 4 года назад +2

    Your videos are easily one of my favorite things about Sunday mornings! Thanks for keeping them going! :)

  • @thesundrinker9530
    @thesundrinker9530 4 года назад +1

    LOVE this one. So much is Early Access now. It's awesome to see what the games I grew up on would have been like on a EA release. Please MORE OF THIS!

  • @brentbuser6903
    @brentbuser6903 4 года назад +1

    I really love Game Sack. Always fantastic. Keep up the good work.

  • @metroidmayhem8463
    @metroidmayhem8463 4 года назад +1

    Such a neat idea. With all the modern games we sometimes forget back in the day you had one shot.

  • @siral4487
    @siral4487 4 года назад +1

    I'm glad you're still killin it.long live Joey.

  • @foxyman9449
    @foxyman9449 4 года назад +6

    Never saw any running in your Shinobi 3 prototypes. That was my favorite part of the game and made it more enjoyable for me. Great video.

  • @rufusray
    @rufusray 7 месяцев назад

    Hard to believe dave walked so long ago. Even crazier that ive been watching this show for almost right at a decade. Man time flys.

  • @maturememory
    @maturememory 4 года назад +26

    Dude I had the worst day at work and I just got home to find out you uploaded, this literally made my day.

    • @mogo2433
      @mogo2433 4 года назад +4

      Been there.
      Get some rest and then keep fighting.

  • @ldrelick
    @ldrelick 4 года назад +2

    Sonic 2's prototype has a ton of differences between it and the final. I'd love to see that one covered on the next episode.

  • @MrWolfTickets
    @MrWolfTickets 4 года назад +20

    I think several states are suing Dr Mario for the opioid crisis

    • @paxhumana2015
      @paxhumana2015 4 года назад +3

      He countersued them saying that antibiotics are the best way to beat viruses.

    • @salozmen29
      @salozmen29 4 года назад

      @@paxhumana2015 You guys are sick. This is a serious thing.

    • @nathanwarner4584
      @nathanwarner4584 4 года назад

      Should see what he done too his brother, helped him become highly dependent and addicted too drugs. Luigi is a real mess and he so bad he's robbing old ladies for their fish and chips and purses with 5p in it

  • @stabinghobo57
    @stabinghobo57 4 года назад +1

    Your Awesome Joe! Game Sack is the best channel on RUclips.

  • @trevorbozeman
    @trevorbozeman 4 года назад +2

    Why is Game Sack soooo goood?!? Keep up the great work Joe!

  • @skins4thewin
    @skins4thewin 4 года назад +3

    I honestly find it quite amazing what they were able to accomplish on the 16 Bit systems. It makes me really wish that RAM upgrades were more of a thing, as more RAM would have really expanded what they could have done with some of the games on these systems. They could have produced some truly impressive stuff if both the Genesis and SNES had a RAM upgrade of some kind, maybe one that could have been plugged into the expansion port on each. I see what they did with the RAM expansion on the PC Engine & it really makes me wish for it on the other systems.

    • @Prizrak-hv6qk
      @Prizrak-hv6qk 4 месяца назад

      RAM was not as important with cart based consoles as it was with a CD based ones. Cart ROM was very fast to access (not too much slower than RAM was at that time), while CDs are horribly slow. Just look at what Neo-Geo did with huge amounts of cart ROM. PC Engine CD and even Turbo Duo initially came with very little RAM, which is why it could really take advantage of all the RAM expansion cards. Sega CD was less affected, because it came with a fairly reasonable 6 Mbit built-in. Mortal Kombat could definitely have used more due to Shan Tsung's morphing ability, which made Sega CD have to load each new morphed character from the CD.

  • @subsonix_
    @subsonix_ 4 года назад +1

    Been watching Gamesack for years now, Fantastic content! Hilarious humor and awesome times. Thank you! :)

  • @robm5399
    @robm5399 4 года назад +1

    love the Show. thank you for all that you do for the gaming community.

  • @andrewcamacho3364
    @andrewcamacho3364 4 года назад +8

    The music that plays in the desert level of Aladdin is actually from The Jungle Book game.

    • @Chaos89P
      @Chaos89P 4 года назад

      Where does the final version come from?

    • @FoxMan_FF
      @FoxMan_FF 4 года назад

      I'm pretty sure the song that plays in the desert stage is an original composition, but don't quote me on that. Tommy Tallarico helped compose both games, so it's likely that song in the prototype was used as a placeholder, I'd bet.

  • @cancelme4200
    @cancelme4200 4 года назад +4

    I like in the dr Mario prototype that they have a visual representation of the patient. They should have stuck with that.

  • @Jatycre
    @Jatycre 4 года назад +1

    This was a great idea for an episode, and the execution was awesome.
    Definitely keep this in your back pocket, and do a few more prototype vs retail episodes, Joe.

  • @MrWhiteprobea
    @MrWhiteprobea 4 года назад +1

    Thx for keeping this amazing show going.

  • @Freako
    @Freako 4 года назад +2

    This is my absolute favourite subject about video games!
    Thanks Joe!

  • @repentnow6244
    @repentnow6244 4 года назад +12

    Game sack while at work late night, I'll take it!

    • @antdude
      @antdude 4 года назад

      What job?

  • @theconsolekiller7113
    @theconsolekiller7113 4 года назад +1

    Great coverage. Interesting to see the progression of these games.

  • @somethingoriginal1707
    @somethingoriginal1707 4 года назад +13

    0:19
    EA: _nervous chuckle_

  • @imwatchingvideoz
    @imwatchingvideoz 4 года назад +3

    Fantastic idea, hope there's a sequel with more examples!

  • @Gojiro7
    @Gojiro7 4 года назад +2

    wow Joe, Dave sure is coming up with more elaborate ways to cameo in a show he's left and still steal your stuff XD

  • @MicahBuzanANIMATION
    @MicahBuzanANIMATION 4 года назад

    New GameSack episode = instant stress relief.

  • @foreignuser_
    @foreignuser_ 4 года назад +1

    Thank you so much for continuing to make great content. I'm a gamer at heart but have been homeless living on the street or in the wood. I don't get to play many games these days, but your videos serve as moments of peace for me.

  • @johnnycigar2061
    @johnnycigar2061 2 года назад +1

    Best show on RUclips. Thank you.

  • @gtrzdaddy
    @gtrzdaddy 4 года назад +15

    wasn't there another ver of SF2 for the Genesis? i remember seeing the black bar on top where the gauge sits. I think that's what EGM was talking about

    • @itchyisvegeta
      @itchyisvegeta 4 года назад +5

      Yes there was. Original screenshots had the black border over the name plates.

    • @ultimateman55
      @ultimateman55 4 года назад +5

      Yes, that's what EGM was taking about. The black bar lay behind the life bars in earlier builds. It had nothing to do with the letterboxing.

    • @itchyisvegeta
      @itchyisvegeta 4 года назад +1

      @@ultimateman55 Also, I remember the promotional VHS for Turbo on SNES had a section at the end where it showed the Japan commercials for the game. I also remember a few seconds of footage from that genesis prototype with the black bar behind the name plates. Had M Bison doing a Flaming Torpedo to whoever on Dhalsim's stage, if I remember correctly.

    • @ozzy_9856
      @ozzy_9856 4 года назад

      Yeah, like others mentioned, he showed the wrong version. There's an older build with a black bar behind the life bars.

    • @AmberShort
      @AmberShort 4 года назад +1

      Correct. Joe already knows about it. I had posted images on the game on his Discord.

  • @papasnejk87
    @papasnejk87 4 года назад +10

    Well, i think you might have just pissed a lot of guys Joe. Shinobi 3 is THE best in the entire series if not THE best ninja game of all time forever

  • @ZappahVideo
    @ZappahVideo 4 года назад +1

    Lots of subtle jokes to be found, especially with the "Game Sack Hyper-Real Dare-to-Compare Turbo Comparison Screen!"s. Nice work, Joe.

  • @SupraBlack-dp4zz
    @SupraBlack-dp4zz 4 года назад +2

    Genesis always had that distinctive slap bass.

  • @KaskelotenZebbe
    @KaskelotenZebbe 4 года назад +2

    Great job, Joe! Hope to see more of these. I don't know what protos are interesting to talk about, but I'm sure you'll get some good recommendations from others.

    • @remingtonsteele3684
      @remingtonsteele3684 4 года назад

      Amazing video, thank you. Knew about the Shinobi prototypes but didn't notice many of the differences you found.

  • @Andres33AU
    @Andres33AU 4 года назад +1

    7:38: The guy on the left is Dr Amigo. The Hyper-Real Dare-to-Compare Turbo Comparison Screen really works! Thanks Game Sack!
    - Non-paid actor testimonial.

  • @n64funtime54
    @n64funtime54 4 года назад +1

    Really good idea on this one Joe. I find this really interesting as well

  • @neverwin2518
    @neverwin2518 4 года назад

    Thank you for keeping my Game Sack heavy!

  • @hairymannnn
    @hairymannnn 4 года назад +2

    The beta of Pokémon Gold and the recently dumped prototype of Sonic the Hedgehog 3 are some of the more prominent ones in recent memory that you should definitely cover. Both of those games have a lot of stuff to look at.

  • @SolarMoth
    @SolarMoth 4 года назад +1

    impressive footage of some unseen or unfinished games!

  • @pdxdailyrider8351
    @pdxdailyrider8351 2 года назад +1

    Love the Amico shirt, uncanny foresight.

  • @SuperBigD19
    @SuperBigD19 4 года назад

    Thanks Joe!! Love tuning in!

  • @OneUponADime
    @OneUponADime 4 года назад +1

    What an awesome idea for an episode!

  • @FireFoxOmicron
    @FireFoxOmicron 4 года назад +2

    17:52 I think that actually happens because the Orstrich hits the Pink Rhino. :) It's usually when You jump too early. Used to happen to Me a fair bit on the PC Version, Lol.

  • @mitchzesty7602
    @mitchzesty7602 4 года назад +1

    Joe, you can't go opening up and episode with Revenge of Shinobi. It's genuinely impossible for me to like this channel more than I already do.

  • @jkemp6791
    @jkemp6791 4 года назад +1

    I poop my pants every day while watching Game Sack!

  • @rogeriorogerio1007
    @rogeriorogerio1007 4 года назад

    'This stage is long and boring, just like an episode of gamesack'. Gotta love gamesack for this.

  • @TheRealGara
    @TheRealGara 4 года назад +1

    Absolutely wonderful video. It's the perfect kind of content. Testing various test builds of games I don't love sounds boring. You obviously had passion for a few of them. It made for a great video

  • @andrewsteele604
    @andrewsteele604 4 года назад

    New Game Sack vid for my nightcap...couldn’t ask for anything better!

  • @fabrigarciacartoons
    @fabrigarciacartoons 4 года назад

    Awesome episode. Game Sack deserves at least 10 million subs. I don’t understand RUclips

  • @alexcannon294
    @alexcannon294 4 года назад

    And am I the only one who knows about this?
    Keep up the great work. Love the show.

  • @Zeldaschampion
    @Zeldaschampion 4 года назад +2

    Dave, you need to find us more SNES prototypes

  • @JonRP
    @JonRP 4 года назад

    i got lion king as a christmas present when i was 5 and i am an actual serial killer who LOVES your show.

  • @batmangovno
    @batmangovno 4 года назад +55

    Wow, Dave converted to Saturn terrorism? He really should've stayed at Game Sack.

    • @thatguy3718
      @thatguy3718 4 года назад +2

      Ah see you're a man of giving your meat a good old rub aswell

  • @Renegade666
    @Renegade666 4 года назад +1

    Sonic prototypes would be great, theres so many you could probably do a whole episode dedicated to them!

  • @brydon10
    @brydon10 4 года назад

    Awesome. Thanks Joe - and thanks to the mysterious stranger.

  • @tazzeboy
    @tazzeboy 4 года назад

    I love these Sunday morning

  • @CosmicCosmo1
    @CosmicCosmo1 4 года назад +35

    Any chance Dave will come back? Miss that guy

    • @JomasterTheSecond
      @JomasterTheSecond 4 года назад +12

      He's not allowed on anymore because he kept saying tits.

    • @DrymouthCWW
      @DrymouthCWW 4 года назад +1

      He probably just got tired of the shows style and wasnt feeling old school games anymore. People change. Thats it

    • @221b
      @221b 4 года назад +10

      He did come back, and he was _AAAAAASSSSSSSS!!!_

    • @josuegarduno7154
      @josuegarduno7154 4 года назад +2

      @@221b *AAAAASSSSSSSSSS*

    • @jbfarley
      @jbfarley 4 года назад +2

      @@DrymouthCWW that's stupid, no, he said why he left

  • @GenerationalGamer
    @GenerationalGamer 4 года назад +1

    I like how many games have the ability to use invincibility. When I was a tester (many years ago), I do not remember a single game that had that. It would have been nice. I got clobbered in Centipede for the PlayStation and Dreamcast until I got good enough to actually complete it.
    Aladdin was one of my favorites on the Genesis. I am really looking forward to it being released on the Nintendo Switch. I still find it weird to see Sega’s logo anywhere near Nintendo’s and it has been 18 years.

  • @carlopton
    @carlopton 4 года назад +1

    At the end: Gamer Stealth Theft. Faux injuries did result from the making of this video segment. Cool.

  • @LillipanFran
    @LillipanFran 4 года назад

    Thanks for giving me something to do this late at night.

  • @hateeternalmaver
    @hateeternalmaver 4 года назад +4

    Interesting stuff, Joe! Great, now I have a severe itch from using the Game Sack Comparison Screen. -__-

  • @paintsius
    @paintsius 4 года назад

    Excellent concept for an episode 👍

  • @christophercapuano7280
    @christophercapuano7280 4 года назад

    Dave is never running out of ideas to steal your gamed! 😂

  • @IkesDaddelbox
    @IkesDaddelbox 4 года назад

    13:00 I can tell you exactly where that music is from. It's in the first level of the GameBoy version. It was also remixed as "Jungle Jazz" for the 3rd level in The Jungle Book for the Mega Drive and the first level in the Snes version. I remember that because I used to play Aladdin on the GB when I was little, and I was absolutely startled to hear that melody in the Jungle Book game later. So that unused theme did make it in the GB version, but was reused for a different console game.

  • @genisug22
    @genisug22 4 года назад

    Thank you so much gamesack

  • @jamiewilliamson9829
    @jamiewilliamson9829 4 года назад +1

    I'd love to see a follow up. One game I'd love to see covered is Sonic 2. That game had a few prototypes out there.

  • @CarfDarko
    @CarfDarko 4 года назад

    Keep up the great work, I love the little details you've put in the video.
    Beta's are always interesting to see, I can imagine how you can just sit down and search for differences.
    I have a QA background myself and I love to see how games can develop nowdays, but nothing is better to see beta's of those games I played when I was 10 myself.

  • @thevickingtor
    @thevickingtor 4 года назад +1

    Well, thanks for this video, because this explains a lot of things regarding my copy of Street Fighter 2 for the Genesis. Apparently dad bought a bootleg of the prototype, because that's exactly the version I had.

  • @OH.A.M.
    @OH.A.M. 4 года назад +2

    Midnight Game Sack reviews are awesome.

  • @Zeldaschampion
    @Zeldaschampion 4 года назад

    Guile's Theme goes great with EVERYTHING.

  • @eggsalad007
    @eggsalad007 4 года назад +4

    Would have liked to see more of those deleted Batman cut scenes!

  • @mattshuey1
    @mattshuey1 4 года назад

    That ending is going to be adding a new tome to the lore library.

  • @Ionicblood666
    @Ionicblood666 4 года назад +1

    I see that Amico shirt. I cant wait to play that.

  • @turrican3839
    @turrican3839 4 года назад

    Earthworm Jim 2 for the SNES, there's even scrapped pre-rendered stuff, an entire level, bonus games, graphics and basically everything.

  • @aaronmarko
    @aaronmarko 3 года назад +1

    hard to believe that Dave's been gone from Game Sack for almost 2 years now. I still love you, Joe but it certainly doesn't feel the same since Dave left.

  • @NateBoiBoi
    @NateBoiBoi 4 года назад +1

    so, from what ive heard, a slightly later, but still early prototype of castlevania bloodlines, had a completely different stage 5, where it had a zepplin, and you had to do something with it. Some of the graphics of it are still in the finals rom

  • @MosesMedinaE
    @MosesMedinaE 4 года назад +2

    I hope joe is okay, he was pretty close to the blast and shrapnel could have easily punctured his thorasic cavity causing a pneumothorax.

  • @mikemayberry7121
    @mikemayberry7121 4 года назад

    I'm fascinated by prototypes, too. I really really really enjoyed this one. It just might be my favorite episode, and I've been watching for years. You covered all the most interesting ones except Sonic 2 (which I'm sure you're already aware of) but I hope you find enough to make a follow-up episode. Big thumbs up!!

  • @shinobinsane
    @shinobinsane 4 года назад

    Never stop making videos man. Good stuff

  • @dbzeh6837
    @dbzeh6837 4 года назад

    We like you too Joe!
    Excellent episode as usual!

  • @videogameobsession
    @videogameobsession 4 года назад

    10:46 It's really cool that the new Disney Aladdin/Lion King video game release is going to include this as a bonus. Not only that, but it's also going to include a definitive version of the Genesis version, including bug fixes, and other stuff which they didn't originally have time to complete.