MC30c Mon Calamari Frigate vs Immobilizer 418 Cruiser | Star Wars: Who Would Win
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- Опубликовано: 15 июл 2017
- The Rebel Alliance's MC30c Mon Calamari Frigate versus the Empire's Immobilizer 418 Cruiser - an interdiction support ship. Which ship comes out on top in a one-on-one space battle? Find out in today's episode of Star Wars: Who Would Win.
In Star Wars Star Ship Versus (often referred to as Star Wars: Who Would Win) you the audience chose the match-up, so make sure you vote in the comments or submit a matchup! The Immobilizer 418 Cruiser is one of the Empire's Interdictor Cruisers, it's lighter than a Star Destroyer, but still 600 meters long. The MC30c is a small, light and fast Mon Cal cruiser which excels at hit and runs.
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EckhartsLadder I want to see a new versus series. The battle would be a 5 vs 5 shadow scout aka imperial storm commandos vs republic commandos aka clone commandos
EckhartsLadder how about Vader Vs neo from the matrix
TIE Defender vs ARC 170 or T-70 (use most evenly matched). STILL NOT GIVING UP!!
EckhartsLadder Hi there Brother I playing empire at war and the MC30 is a pain in the game in numbers. by the way great video sir. :):)
Ian Price Now that be fun
I have an issue with your description of the weaponry. Quad laser cannons have always been notable anti-starfighter weapons, not necessarily great capital ship weapons. Turbolasers are the primary anti-capital ship weapon
I was thinking this as well. From my understanding the Immobilizer was mostly armed to protect itself from fighters and corvettes while the Star Destroyers it was with would focus on capital ship engagement. The MC30 on the other hand is far better armed with both medium turbo lasers and heavy proton torpedoes met for capital ship engagement and the twin laser canons and cluster bombs are to help deal with fighters.
I was pretty confused about this as well, but he actually mentions it in a post-script at the end of the video.
I can’t understand where his understanding of the quad lasers comes from. Quad LASERS, NOT TURBOLASERS!
have to agree all the descriptions of the quad lasers on the 418 are anti-fighter not anti-cap ship....hence firepower wise and overall the battle would go to the MC30
@Max Smith Quad turbolasers.
Griveous invisible hand vs star destroyer
I Vote for the ISD
Class I? Then the Star Destroyer will have a close win.
Agree. Mk II´s victory is totally out of question, but Mk I could be interesting.
Star destroyer class 1
The invisible hand is just a Providence with thicker armour and like 10 more turbolasers and 3 more proton torpedo launchers
Good fight, i'd go with the MC30 primarily since Immobilizers (and interdictors in general) aren't designed primarily for ship to ship combat and instead are meant to be used as part of a fleet, without being the main warship in it.
Quad laser cannons are meant for fighter defense, while turbolasers are anti-ship weapons. As an example, the Falcon is armed with 2 quad laser cannons.
+EckhartsLadder Medium Turbolasers are FAR more powerful than Quad Laser cannons, quad laser cannons are what the Millenium Falcon had, those can't touch a warship, they are purely anti-Starfighter and the immobilizer had no actual anti-warship weaponry unlike the Mc30c
321gman he's completely biased towards anything imperial
321gman I was thinking the same thing! Quads are weaker than turbos.
Not to forget the heavy proton torpedoes that will wreak havoc on any ship of that type, while the cluster bombs and anti fighter lasers take care of the 24 TIE. The Immobilizer is not the Vindicator, it's a ship using the hull of one without any of the weaponry of that heavy cruiser.
@@l0rf yes, but an interdictor can easily use its gravity well to deflect the torpedoes
imperial raider class corvette vs cr-90 corvette
Lmaowars yessssssssss I was hoping someone wanted this one!
Executor VS. Borg Cube
Lol
The MC30 is pulled from hyper space by the Imobilizer. The Imobilizer immediately opens fire, using its superior speed the MC30 gets far from the Imobilizer and gets behind it. But not before taking considerable damage. The Imobilizer sends its TIEs after the MC30. The MC30 has to act quickly, it fires its torpedoes at the back of the Imobilizer. The TIEs are upon it, it must divert its attention to them. While the MC30 is distracted the Imobilizer gets into better position and fires all it has at the MC30. The MC30 is unable to to take out all the TIEs and evade the Imobilizer. In a last effort it unleashes all its weapons into the weakest points of the Imobilizer. But it is not enough, knowing it is doomed the MC30 charges the Imobilizer at full thrust. The Imobilizer is too slow and the dying MC30 rams right into the back gravity well. The Imobilizer gives a shutter then the gravity well explodes with a force so huge it rips the Imobilizer in half and the MC30 is blown to pieces.
I pronounce this battle a TIE, I mean tie.
Please I don't need grammar corrections.
Rebel Alliance fighters have their own hyperdrives, and can escort the MC30 even if it hasn't got a fighter bay. The Empire is forced to bring fighters with them, because their fighters do not have hyperdrives.
Matas, this came out before TLJ.
Immobilizer can jam incoming missles and torpedoes.
TastyChicken This is just the individual ships and what they bring with them, not with any other supplementary vessels.
Something critical you missed is that, in most of the media I've seen, interdictor types of ships can use their gravity wells to deflect proton torps and missiles away from the hull. Unless this was deliberately missed out, it would have pushed the odds further in the Imperial favour.
A full week of Star Wars battles is amazing I absolutely love it! :)
I thought quad laser cannons were the appitamee of anti-starfighter weaponry. I was informed that they were the equivalent of heavy laser cannons but were designed in a quad form to put out more shots in a volley which would theoretically make it easier to hit a fighter.
It depends on the situation. If the MC30 is pulled out by the Interdictor, then the Interdictor will probably lose. If the MC30 saw the Interdictor and decided to attack, the MC might win. I tried this battle in SW Empire at war, if I called in the Interdictor, the MC would lose, and vice versa.
Millennium Falcom VS The Ebon Hawk ( Revan's Ship )
this has to happen
Harrower class VS valor class pls
TIE predator vs TIE Defender
M.L. this is a great idea
My vote goes to the Harrower! It's just so badass
M.L. I wanna die
random guy axiom would win obviously
Subjagator-class Heavy Crusier (the Malevolence) vs Executor class Star Drednaought.
AdmiralSupreme It's been done with the Eclipse before on the channel.
Caden Ollar not the eclipse the bellator class ssd
AdmiralSupreme u spelled dreadnaught wrong
PNOR _gaming right
Easily the Executor.
This series is how I got into your channel last may, I miss it😢😢
On the subject of the quad laser cannons, you have to consider a number of things.
1. This ship, as you said, is not meant to be a front line fighter. The supporting starships will be engaging the enemy fleet while the Interdictor... interdicts. This means that the primary threat to it would be starfighters, which could easily slip past fighter screens and capital ships in order to try to destroy the Interdictor to allow the Rebels to escape. Quad laser cannons are therefore more logical armaments for this ship's role in the order of battle.
2. The power requirements for the gravity well generators, which are the Interdictor's primary role in a battle, create a major draw on the ship's reactor. It may be very likely that the Interdictor couldn't power heavy turbolaser weaponry while maintaining the gravity well. Lighter laser weaponry would therefore once again be preferred.
3. Star Wars diagrams such as that are usually rather used to labeling things as either 'laser' or 'turbolaser'. Such an error on the charts is therefore highly unlikely and an assumption of different weaponry should only be made if there is direct supporting evidence.
Another thing that I'd like to add in this fight is that one of the attributes of the gravity well generators, at least in Legends, was the ability to deflect the paths of warheads in close vicinity to the ship. You see this in the PC game Empire at War as well as the tabletop game Armada. Since the MC30's primary offensive ability is heavy warhead launchers, this deflection ability would likely right any imbalance between the Interdictor's rather light weaponry and your original assessment.
Absolutely my thoughts but better said.
Though at least in Empire at War, were proton Torpedoes not unaffected by the well generator, since they were guided and it was mostly an anti-artillery weapon?
@@l0rf nope, in game, it could draw in all physical warheads. I would still give the win to the MC-30 though, because the interdictor just wouldn't have had the weaponry to challenge a ship the size of the MC-30. Also, using the gravity well to disrupt the proton torpedoes would weaken the shield, and allow the turbo lasers to kill it off. As for the TIEs, they would be decimated by the cluster bombs, rendering the squadron impotent
EckartsLadder,
I know that this week you are doing star wars things but please concider making a versus between Reapers from Mass Effect and The Galactic Empire from Star Wars.
Thanks for noticing!
HAVw A6 Juggernaut vs an AT-AT
I like it
i THINK that is a bit easy to do.I think the the clone turbo tank(HAVw juggnort is going to win because firstly it dosent yave legs......it has wheels so it will be nelly imposibl to nock over whilst the at at has legs which can be destroyed and pushed over seened in rebles and secondly it is way more faster and finaly it has missiles wich can shoot at the walkers head and BOOM!!!!!!
Might be the first one of the versus videos I've seen that I've liked and agreed with!
I do know that playing as the Empire using the "interdictor" in Star Wars Forces of Corruption was THE only way to counter those bloody op mc 30's in space battles in the vanilla game. And if you where playing as the Consortium you where screwed if the Rebles decided to spam these things.
Sith battlecruiser vs The Venator battlecruiser
I think you missed that the Immobilizer only has laser cannons, not turbolasers.
Love your channel fam keep up the good work!!!
i love these videos you do man keep up the good work
Mandolorian cruiser vs Munificent class star frigate. Huge fan of the old republic and the Mandolorian wars! They are with out a doubt my favorite starwars faction because they aren't really good or bad they just love war!! It's my birthday on Wednesday and would be a dream come true to see this match up!
This week is going to be really good this is my favourite series on ur channel
Squad of ARF Troopers on ATRTs vs Squad of Imperial Scout Troopers on Speeder Bikes.
Z-95 headhunter (as it was during the clone wars) vs the x-wing
Mic Clank Obviously the X wing....
The X-wing is pretty much a more advanced Z-95.
z-95 was essentially an earlier version, with less weaponry.
Agreed. The Headhunter is a tough ship and all but it is completely outmatched by the X Wing. The only way the Z 95 Headhunter beats the T 65 X Wing is if the Headhunter catches the X Wing completely unawares (unlikely) or the Headhunter Pilot is a combat ace facing off against an X Wing Pilot that just doesn't have his level of skill or expirence so much so that even the Superiority of the X Wing can't compensate for the difference in skill.
With how Eckharts does versus, the pilots are equal it's just the ships. X-Wing would win easily, better armor, better engines, better weapons. Better everything.
love These vids, thx for making them
Nebulon b vs acclamator
I still give it to the MC30 because the Interdictor was designed to catch and attack small ships like corvettes while the MC30 was designed to destroy capital ships with advanced heavy proton torpedoes meant to penetrate Imperial II armor.
lucrehulk class battleship vs. imperial 2 class star destroyer
Metanerdz: the Mc30 is the ultimate capital ship killer !
Eckhartsladder: NOPE !
Allegiance class Star Destroyer VS First Order Star Destroyer
CIS hyena-bomber vs imperial tie bomber
Finally ship vs ship again:)
The immobilizer was designed to be a support ship, designed to pull a fleet out a hyperspace and prevent them from escaping. It is not designed to destroyer capital ships and any weaponry it had would be designed to protect it from star fighters. It would always have an escort and would commonly be used with larger ships who would destroy and enemy capital ships. The MC30 on the other hand was designed to destroy a capital ship, with its turbolasers and proton torpedos heavily damaging to immobilizer and its laser cannons and cluster bombs destroying the TIE fighters. It is unfortunate, but the rebellion would win in this battle.
Could we see a three part/topic video:
1) About The Killiks VS the Trade Federation.
2) Dart Ships and Nest Ships VS Vulture droids and Lucrehulk-class battleship.
3) As well as Killik Troops VS Battle Droids if ether side tried boarding the other.
100 venators vs super star desroyer
no super star destroyer can kill 40000 fighters
Brot kann schimmeln oh how about eclipse super star destroyer
you must have not so much venators. 100 have too much fighters ( and 800 heavy turbolasers)
the eclipse had great ship to ship weapons but less amazing point blank weapons, even it wouldn't fend off 40000 fighters
So over 50000 star fighter vs one SSD I'd say the the 50000 fighters
PROVIDENCE CLASS DREADNOUGHT(larger variant) VS IMPERIAL STAR DESTROYER!!!!
I'VE BEEN ASKING THIS EVERY BLOODY EPISODE!!
Keep em coming 👌👍
well, it stands to reason that the turbolasers on the immobilizer were swapped out for normal lasers to compensate for the huge power draw of the gravity wells, and it was a decision based on the ship's role as support rather than combat. It's something to think about even if it does contradict the Empire's naval doctrine.
Gozanti-Class Cruiser vs GR-75 Medium Transporter
Could you PLEASE do the MC90 vs. Anakin Solo this week? You said you would a while ago.
+Thomas Parry I've been doing research, not sure if the ships have enough stats for me to do it
EckhartsLadder Which one are you having the most trouble with? According to the citations on their Wookiepedia articles, the info about the MC90 came from the Dark Empire Sourcebook, and the Anakin Solo was a standard Imp-II with some extra equipment.
The Immobilizer 418 quad laser cannons are just that: short range anti-starfighter weapons. They pose no significant threat to any capital ship.
The MC30c frigates eat Victory-class Star Destroyers for breakfast in Forces of Corruption. These things spam proton torpedoes like one would not believe. Imagine a ship getting bombarded by torpedoes; it is probably because of this ship. In EaW, MC30c's are unlocked at Tech Level 5. They are also expensive for their size and class, but they are very dangerous. TIE Defenders and TIE Bombers are an effective defense against them, if one can catch them, but if a player does not not have them, they are screwed.
I'd like to see the Mc30 or Nebulon-B go up against the Gladiator class Star Destroyer... or whatever other ship you can think of that might be a good match for the Gladiator. The wiki says they were outmatched once the Rebels got better capital ships, and I can't think of what kind of ships those would be, outside of the Mon Cal ships which in the Original Trilogy are the biggest (and probably least common) ships the Rebs have in their fleet.
CIS - Munificent Class Frigate vs Rebel Phoenix Home (Quasar-Fire class Carrier)
the zann consortium aggressor-class destroyer (EU/ SWEWFOC) versus Imperial 2-class Star Destroyer
Angelo Adorno the imperial 2 definitely more weapons better sheilding better fighter support sure the aggressor has that ion cannon and plasma cannon but it has shitier defense than an imperial 2
I like the idea of the MC30 being pulled out of hyperspace by accident directly behind or underneath, to instawipe the engines or hanger, but yeah, I agree with the conclusion
Honestly I don't see how the 418 could ever win this.
The mc 30 is better armed, better shielded and has superior mobility.
I mean, the 418 was so weak that the imperials later started putting gravity well generators into modified ISD:s because the 418 couldn't defend itself at all. All the 418 was was a ship meant to prevent the enemy from escaping so that the actual combat ships could destroy them
In the Empire At War videogame the Immobilizer can also jam incoming enemy missle and torpedoes, even in OtaKing77077's short film you can see the ship deflect incoming torpedoes from the Y-Wing squadron.
In Rebels it can also slowdown and attract enemy ship close to it.
Pratically 3 main advantages of the MC30C (torpedoes, speed and maneuverability) will be nullified.
Malevolence vs super star destroyer
V wing vs a wing
you forget that in the popular TIE fighter thing an immobilizer is shown deflecting a proton torpedo barrage from a y wing squadron using it's gravity wells
in a star wars game, the immobilizer 418 was equipped with an interdiction field for misses and torpedoes
You can do a test in Empire at War...
Please, could someone tell me where the space battle video at the start of the video is from?
S for VS. I would suggest a single Tie Defender VS 3 (or more) X-Wings
victory class 2 vs MC75
You should do a video about the different laser weapons on ships cause sometimes that gets confusing when comparing ships.
The MC30 runs right at its opponent, closing to use its cluster bombs effectively to blast the opposition, then speeds past to the aft section where it turns to stay with the Immobilizer for a bit, pounding the ship until its engines are gone. Then the MC30 flees a little bit, getting out of range, recharging shields, and picking off TIEs where it can before circling around to the now immobilized Immobilizer to blast away until it is done. Flawless victory for the MC30
Where did the digitally animated footage at the beginning of the video come from?
The Winter Soldier from Marvel vs a Death Trooper
Winter Soldier wins. He as the power of COMMUNISM!
Hey Eck! For a cool starship vs. would be about 5(ish) viscount star defenders vs the MSD. I think it would be a cool battle showing the of both factions.
Vindicator-Class heavy cruiser vs Harrower-Class pre-dreadnought.
Similar armament (overall), similar compliment (overall) and similar subspace performance. This matchup would come down to positioning and weapons placement more than anything else.
umm i have a contradiction to your analysis. a quad cannon is not meant for Capitol Ship or ship to ship. its primary purpose was to destroy small fighter vessels like snub fighters and frigates like the falcon. the alliance vessel is armed with medium turbolasers these are meant for ship to ship combat. so either you got the armaments of each vessel mixed up or you forgot what the weapons were capable of.
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@@PedrotheChihuahuaA8He’s wrongly assuming that they are turbolasers despite the fact that all evidence points to them being lasers.
The Empire doesn't need all that expensive of weaponry. They're an occupying force with no meaningful opposition until the organized Rebellion.
the landing parties of the Acclamator vs. C-9979
Darth Bane vs Darth Krayt.
Tie striker vs rebel snow speeder
Quad Laser Cannons are like Quad .50 Cal machine guns used in WW2... not an anti-ship weapon. (Star Wars RPG, it is plainly obvious based upon the stats listed for the weaponry)
I think the reason the ship had this weaponry, in addition to its starfighter compliment, geared towards anti-fighter/bomber roles, was because it was never meant to operate alone.
The Interdictor-class was supported by at least one other capital ship throughout the X-wing vs TIE-fighter game.
Also, the weaponry aboard Imperial-class star destroyers makes a point to differentiate between each laser cannon and turbolaser by type/size and number of barrels.
The ship is a one trick pony: pull stuff out of hyperdrive/prevent it from escaping.
It just had to survive long enough for other capital ships and fighter/bomber wings to eliminate the threat(s).
Secutor class SD vs. the longer version of the providence class
I would think that the MC-30's best chance would be to dump a lot of torpedoes into the Immobilizer, but the anti-missile jamming system might prevent that, unless they can a) overcome the jamming, or b) dumb-fire with good aim.
4:57 yooo star wars armada. Love the mc30c in that game
Episode 2 Jedi Starfighter vs episode 3 Jedi Interceptor plz
Providence class dreadnought versus Imperial Star Destroyer
normal version (1km long) or dreadnought version (2km long)
Brot kann schimmeln the 2km.
In Empire At War the guns the Immobilizer is depicted with definitly are quad-lasers. I think it may in fact may sense for it to have those; the gravity-well generators take a tremendous amount of energy, and considering how consuming would quad-turbolasers be, the Immobilizer just wasn't powerful enough for all this array of equippement.
Furthermore, considering the Immobilizer was meant to be used in relatively large naval squadrons, who would dedicate lot of their ressources to protect it, it may not need anti-capital ship defences, but instead anti-starfighter defences, as a light crafts are much more likely to go trough a capital ship squadron than frigates the Alliance usually use.
Even if the Immobilizer actually had quad turbolaser, considering the manoeuvrability of the MC-30, it could easily place itself above or under the Immobilizer, and on a flank, avoiding by this way most of the laser barrage. Considering most of the MC-30's armament is located at it's bow, it could just position itself on the rear of the Immobilizer and destroy it under heavy fire.
I feel like the reason why the MC30 couldn't get away and it'd be a battle to the death would be because the Immobilizer was using the gravity generators. While I don't think it would give the MC30 enough of an advantage I think it would help a bit
mc80 liberty vs mc80 home one
Whats the footage in the beginning from?
I got one, a super star destroyer vs 5 of those Republic Stealth ships from the Clone Wars
Yay around 5:30 you actually called it the interdictor.
the pride of the core vs the excutor
I am curious about the source behind the Immobilizer 418's quad lasers being effective anti-capital ship weapons. My understanding of quad lasers was they are very effective against fighters but under-powered for use against capital ships; at least compared to turbolasers. From that understanding I thought the MC-30 would win the firepower category.
Oh in regards to the post script. They dropped the quad turbos to plain Jane laser due to power management. The gravity well generators power usage and size alone got rid of the big guns. Hence the reason a 418 has an entire fleet for escort.
The one thing you keep getting wrong is that LASER CANNONS even Quad cannons, are anti-starfighter emplacements. Turbolasers, even light turbolasers, are anti-capitol ship weapons, much more powerful than a regular laser. Remember that a quad laser cannon is what the Millennium Falcon was armed with to take out starfighters.
Yes, quad laser cannons are powerful, for a laser cannon, quad laser cannons are seen popping starfighers in single hits after all.
Even if the MC30c did have a fragile hull, it does have very strong shields, as all Mon Calamari ships do. The 418 is going to get raped by the MC30's medium turbo lasers, and leave the dual laser turrets to deal with the 24 fighters. It really should not take long for the MC30 to win this battle.
Fortunately, you rarely get battles this wrong...
Have you done vids on the various Shipyards of the galaxy. Mon Cal Kuat Sulust...ect?
I think that an interesting and giant battle would be between the Death Star and the Star Forge
how about this 2 mc80 liberty vs 3 imperial 2 class star destroyer
3 star destroyer...which star destroyer?
Brot kann schimmeln imperial 2 star destroyer
Rip mon Cala ships. I'd say the mc80 libertys are on par with the imperial 2 class star destroyer
Nicholas Wong you also have to include the star fighters
Imperial class.
What is the space battle from the beginning of the episode from?
let's get this one this week. harrower dreadnaught vs victory II star destroyer
Incom T65B X-Wing space superiority fighter vs the A-Wing interceptor designed by Dodona and Bilssex, from the old "legends" extended universe of course
Victory-II Class Frigate (Star Wars) vs the BC-304 (Stargate & Post-Unending)
Praetor-Class Battlecruiser (Star Wars) vs the BC-304 (Stargate & Post-Unending)
Subjugator-Class Heavy Cruiser (Malevolence) VS Executor-Class Super Star Destroyer
UM, correct me if I am wrong, but aren't quad laser cannons ANTI-STARFIGHTER weapons? Wouldn't quad turbolaser cannons be the ANTI-CAPITAL SHIP weapons?
Best Space battle youtuber
Pls do A covenant cs Super carrier vs the Executer
In the X-wing Rogue Squadron Book Series, the Rogues launch a barrage of 24 proton torpedoes, overloading the Interdictor's shields. If that many torpedo hits could take down the shields, then I think this evens out the fight somewhat.
I clearly disagree. The MC30C was meant to attack and destroy full sized star destroyers by using their speed and maneuverability to close the distance and nail them with heavy torpedoes. I doubt that a pocket star destroyer would be able to withstand thst amount of fire power