The Ship Design That Never Died | Arquitens-class COMPLETE Breakdown
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- Опубликовано: 6 фев 2023
- The Arquitens-class Light Cruiser would be one of the longest lasting warships in history, as it became the Imperial Command Cruiser, and later the Class 546 in Moff Gideons Imperial Remnant forces. See how it compares to the Venator, Acclamator and other Star Wars capital ships.
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"Local ship too angry to become obsolete". Arquitence, Dreadnaught and Z-95 Headhunter should join and hit the road for "old timers have fun one last time" movie!
That's because all three were versatile and well designed
“One last glorious day for the Grand -Army- Navy of the Republic!”
May as well include the cloakshape!
(And almost everything Corellian...)
Maybe a Hammerhead too.
Did u Noticed the shipyard Had The Triforce LOGO????
“You can’t keep a 20 year old cruiser in service, it’s too old”
Arquitens: hold my class 2 hyperdrive
*I AINT RETIRING*
Did u not noticed a Hidden Easter egg in the video????
Ill give u a hint it involves the legend of ZELDA
Old republic Hammerhead Cruiser would like word young chap
@@no-nonseplayer6612The hammerhead corvettes we see in Rebels and Rogue One are a more recent iteration of that millennia-old design.
The fact that the Acclamator can cruise within the atmosphere are speeds approaching Mach 1 is pretty impressive
Over 2 decades of service in both the Republic and Imperial Navy. The Arquitens truly is a venerable light cruiser that stands the test of time. It's like the Rendeli Star Drives Dreadnoughts in terms of quality and longevity. It's just that good. Not my favorite ship, I like the Dreadnought more, but a great ship nonetheless.
It's the best space Dorito
I mean... SW canon has ships of the line serving nearly unchanged for thousands of years...
That's really not a long time
I think a larger version could be quite useful if it incorporates the attributes that make the Arquitens great. I’m thinking something between the size of the Arquitens and the Victory. Maybe around the size of the Vindicator or Immobilizer. It could be a valuable escort for the ISD if the Empire had smartened up and stopped treating solitary ISDs as the solution to every problem. They could also be useful in systems that don’t warrant a full ISD for patrols. A single small fleet could be based around 1 or 2 Victories as the heavy hitters, ideally with 1 or 2 of my proposed upscaled Arquitens, an Immobilizer, a Ton Falk Carrier, and 3-4 standard Arquitens. Or in even less important systems, pair a couple of standard Arquitens with a single one of the upscaled variant.
I don’t get how the dread lights weren’t just ass. They have poor armament and have never been shown taking extreme punishment. They do look really cool though
This ship never dies. I gotta admit that i adore the commitment this class had for it's purpose and job. As for myself, i'm too insecure. I need the commitment that ship has.
There's one thing I think you get wrong: Technically, the base model Arquitens we see in Clone Wars and Rebels doesn't really even have a docking bay at all. What happens is that in Rebels they dock up to three TIE fighters between the front mandibles of the Arquitens, and those can be dropped off in the middle of a battle. Possibly that was a functionality that was added by the Empire, since most Republic fighters are much less compact. Presumably the "two Lambda shuttles" capacity would be if they docked the Lambdas externally at the airlocks on the sides.
Moff Gideon's Arquitens is just randomly way bigger than the Arquitens in the rest of the franchise, and even in its episode the scale doesn't really make much sense because the size of the opening that the TIE exits would be too small for a normal Lambda to squeeze into. But I guess a big open hangar was better for starting the fight scene.
One of my favorite ships from the republic and imperial era.
Hmm, the Venator just missed the first battle of Geonosis by a few weeks? That seems like something _Palpatine arranged_ in order to not make it a complete slam dunk for the GAR.
If those had been available (along with their fighter compliments) the CIS leadership, including Dooku, would have never gotten off the ground and the planet would have been blockaded and completely occupied.
The war would have been over then and there.
Likely they could have also done an effective orbital attack rather than the plan to assault the factories from the ground, though they probably should still had some ships doing orbital bombardment
I'd say palpatine pulled strings to not make it a slam dunk for the CIS. If you look at the numbers, the separatists had 60 core ships present, which means there were 60 lucrehulks in orbit. Lets assume the republic could get 5 venators there on top of the 12 acclamators that were present. Even if the CIS had the older, auxiliary lucrehulks, it'd still be a slam dunk for them. Why the CIS didn't crush republic forces could only be explained by manipulation from the sith.
@@EE-dj7etnormally yes, but if you watched the movie those ships were already packed and ready to go, unloading them would have taken hours they were already under fire by SPHA, the CIS could have won the battlefield, but the loses or those would have left them stuck on genosis, the core ships just couldn't unload before the republic could take them down
"As tall as about 5 1/2 AT-TE's"
Anything but the metric system
I do not wish to interfere in any future projects, just a mention about a forgotten class of imperial light ctuiser. The Carrack Class light cruiser! A modular design light cruiser, it could fill a number of roles. (This is a pre house of mouse entry in the Star Wars books, just a hint.)
Good against fighters and other small vessels, having similar armament to the Lancer class frigates, just heavier gauge weapons
@@elijahsellers3727 Many thanks for the reply. In the Star Wars books (before alterations over disagreements), this type was used as escorts by the then Grand Admiril Thrawn. After his return from the Unknown regions (from that series of books.) Again, many thanks.
And checking off another MetaNerdz win for my favorite star wars channel for covering my favorite capital ship
Ah, the good ol Arquintens. Old reliable against the outer rim. From the battles with Separatists to Rebel scum, this ship design will always be one of my favorites.
My favorite star wars ship tbh; it reminds me a lot of the Fletcher class destroyer.
How so ?
Is it ... fast and Maneuverable and armed with just enough balance of necessary weapons and health \armoir
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@@rhorynotmylastname7781 ill assume you typed t for Y 😅 ,do you play wows or wows blitz
The Arquitens does seem to be the perfect ship to serve as the backbone of the Imperial navy, if of course the Empire had any common sense. You could purchase around fourteen Arquitens for the price of a single Star Destroyer and if the empire had settle for around 14,500 Destroyers they would have 203,000 Arquitens to play with.
To be fair, we don’t know how many Arquitens the Empire had. They could have had over a million for all we know
@@sirboomsalot4902 for every Imperial I Star Destroyer, it gives birth to five Arquitens in it's natural habitat.
@@merafirewing6591They're so fecund!
I enjoyed playing as the Empire with these light cruisers in Star Wars Empire at War mod.
Damn I love this ship so much, the prong shape and engines are so cool and I love seeing it evolve throughout the republic/empire war. Tragic we never saw a First Order version perhaps with more guns or armor like the squadrons version .
i honestly think there is one but disney has pretty much canned the sequel trilogy.
@@Carrie-dk8wp Eh, considering how the Mandelorian in trying to tie up with the Sequel era. Perhaps disney is trying to revive the franchise .
@@Purified_Water_Enjoyer Agreed or they could be tying in a better sequel trilogy. and retconing the old one
@@Carrie-dk8wp Id love to see how they can fix it without further reconning the original/ prequel trilogy.
@@Carrie-dk8wp I wonder how they could do it
I never really thought this ship was super great. I always thought the Carrack was just better. The arquintens has average firepower for a ship of its size and is pretty slow. But on the other hand, its pretty cheap to build and is pretty tough.
The carrack can be specialised based on what role you want it to play. It can be a anti-capitol ship or corvette killer (10 heavy TL, 20 ion Cannons), or it can take on starfighters (10 heavy TL and 20 point defense). Its very fast (keeps up with a lot of starfighters), roughly the same size as the arquintens (longer but more skinny), and can take just as much if not more of a beating. And it has the option to carry 4 starfighters if thats important to you. Both ships have their place though
Arquidents also served as a mobile command ship, had mon cal style shields, and had munition launchers. Someone say versatility?
@persuisixh4804 Carrack is just as versatile. It too served as a system patrol vessel, operating on its own. While not stated, its communications and sensor systems were likely comparable or better than that of the arquintens.
While both ships are relatively old, the arquintens was designed at the start of the clone wars. Whereas the Carrack entered service in the last year of the war, comparable in age to the imperator (ISD). Now both ships got decent upgrades after the clone wars, but the service life of the carrack lasted far longer than the arquintens. (Commonly used by Thrawn and Zsinj in their campaigns)
Back to my previous comment- when compared to the carrack regarding firepower, the arquintens is basically an imperial customs vessel (imperial coast guard).
Those concussion missles are powerful, and can launch multiple types. Some can even launch the way better proton torpedoes. But launchers and their misses are quite expensive, and in Starwars, these missles are considered "short range weapons", even when compared to heavier turbolasers... While I don't doubt they can carry capitol ship grade missles, they likely carried the smaller anti-starfighter focused missles. Unless they are in a battlegroup expected to see combat, the anti-starfighter concussion missles were enough to take on Pirates and smugglers.
The Victory SD switched to ion cannons because the emense cost of concussion missles + more frequent resupplies. Ion cannons are quite effective against enemy Shields. This combined with the raw turbolaser capacity of the Victory (and carrack) makes these ships deadly in a battleship role. (Carrack is more of a corvette killer or a buffer against enemy frigate movements)
The carrack could have either 20 ion cannons or 20 flak laser cannons. These flak cannons could tackle both starfighters and incoming missle barages, as stated by lore.
I've never seen anything saying the arquintens has moncal-like-shields. That doesn't mean it's not sturdy, as it had a great reputation in the clone wars for being a quite protective ship (both hull and shields). But the carrack has that reputation too, only it stretched into the Civil War as well. It had probably comparable shielding if not stronger (newer design + larger volume) and honestly a stronger hull. It made dandy use of compartmentalization, with many separate sections including their own life support. Important officials made use of the craft because of its survivability.
Metanerdz, your breakdowns are always enjoyable. 👍
Thanks for the rundown on the Arquitens-class light cruiser. It’s one of my favorite ships in Star Wars.
I love the “smaller” ships of Star Wars. I find them a lot more realistic and believable than massive ships like the ISD. The C70 Charger and the Arquitens are two of my favourites. The C-ROC follows in a close third.
My personal favorites are the Hammerhead corvette and I know it’s on the bigger side but MC75s too
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I didn’t like the Hammerhead at first, but it’s unique design grew on me. I love the Hammerhead from Rogue One.
@@2011Kestrel Yes! Originally in rebels I didn’t care for the ship but when Rouge one came out I loved them
The Arquitens was vastly under-appreciated. It was incredibly versatile and flexible.
So that acceleration is insane , we have never seen any ship in cannon accelerate that quick except when they jump
Yeah to be honest it is a little silly
The 545 crusier or such in mandorlain was in rumor a upscaled model as its the briges alone are larger. The length seems longer ass well or it's show magic.
It's definitely a larger varient. The fact that the shuttle could fit in the front and it's multiple hanger entrances proov that.
This ship is like the Miranda class of the Star Wars universe..
Please do the Defender Class Cruiser again. Absolutely love that ship
Lovely ship. I've always liked its shape and proportions. I don't really like huge ships (at least the strategy using them) so I tend to prefer smaller, more agile and versatile crafts, like this one or the Consular-class. But it's unfair, Republic ships are all awesome :D
Ah yes. Of course the standardization of measuring weight by Dewback.
Admiral Yularen: You can't just take a tank with a giant laser beam and fire it out of the ventral hangar of the Venators!
Anakin: Lmao... Watch this
Tarkin, Sidious , Krennic : Note that down , note that down
.. (death star)
I can imagine him saying that in the 2008 Clone Wars show.
One of my favorite designs in all of science fiction. Although I do admit I think the frame would look better if it was actually a larger vessel with a few more weapons. Just imo.
Still, it's so beautiful 😭
Truly the best “destroyer” class ship in Star Wars cannon (I’m using the traditional class system instead of SW’s stilted system)
It really reminds me of the real-life Fletcher Class destroyers of WWII or the Arleigh-Burke destroyers of today.
I do indeed want to see more variants
I kinda like the consept and design, I just wish it was shown it's durability more
This is my second favourite capital type ship, best one for me is the Charger retrofit, I just really enjoy that engine block, so sexy.
With the front facing docking bay the class 546 version would be an excellent choice for mounting an SPHA lazer.
Keep making awesome content! Always loved your breakdowns the most
Amazing video, as always! Would love a few long legends video-series on Luke Skywalker and Anakin/Darth Vader. Like the ones you did on Boba and Jango Fett! ❤️
Thanks for doing this breakdown. I have the Lego model of Gideon’s cruiser (took me 4 hours to build) and it is by far the coolest Lego set I have, 😎
I like the ship for its mutiple uses in the different militaries. The Republic made it as a support ship in addition as a sort of blockade runner. The Empire used it as a support ship, cargo vessel, & of a sort of “command ship” for Agent Kallus, Lieutenant List & Moff Gideon, and the Mandalorians used it as their main Capital Ship during the short time they used it in their fleet.
I'm with Dave. The Arquitins is probably my favorite Star Wars cruiser. An incredibly versatile ship that's equally useful as a picket skirmisher in large fleet engagements or as a home base for extended solo patrols around the Outer Rim. If I could pick one ship to take on the galaxy, I'd pick the Arquitins.
Friggin lov the more practical breakdowns.
Addicted.
I wish we saw more of these in BF2 (2005).
My favorite Star wars ship ever ! Elegant, Compact, sturdy. I just love it.
I run tabletop Star Wars RPG's and these detail posts are invaluable to me as well as being Full of facts! TY muchly for the work
Something about this is off. Wookieepedia indeed lists the same engines as it does on the Consular. However, the Arquitens is about three times as long as the Consular and, proportionally, much wider, suggesting it weighs at least 10 times as much. I think someone noticed that somebody else mentioned they are visually similar and mistakenly copied the information.
I personally think it's only about two times longer, @ManWithBeard1990 . A 237 meter long scale has at times been stated.
The 325 meter scale, on wookieepedia, is speculative, tied to the scale of the Sentinel shuttle (which seems smaller, in Rebels cartoon, than originally scaled) when docked.
Could we get a vid on the Maka-Eekai l4000 transport
I swear this is one ship i could see rebels wanting to capture and use themselves. They are perfect for small rebel groups as mobile carriers... and in some cases likely cheep enough to buy/bribe buy from governments
My only complaint would be the over exposed bridge and that’s about it, outside of removing the hanger section and fill in the front section for more weapons like anti starfighter weapons would also be ideal along the spine other than that I love the design
Hey Metanerdz could you do a video on the Vigil class? I always viewed it as the Imperial replacement for the Arquitens, I'd like to hear your thoughts on it and how they compare, though I know the Vigil has much less coverage than the Arquitens
Cool! Thanks!
Hey MetaNerdz. I'd love to see a video about metrology in Star Wars! How things are measured. What does a Class 1 hyperdrive mean? How much faster is a class 0.5? What are some of the more unique ways of measuring weight, distance, time, speed, temperature, and so on? Are there any fun cultural quirks that get in the way? And of course, what do these things mean for us?
The hyperdrive rating is an inverse scale relative to lightspeed.
A rating of 1 is equal to lightspeed.
A rating of 2 would take twice as long to travel the same distance.
A rating of 0.5 would take half the time.
Thus when Han says in A New Hope, "She'll make .5 past light speed" hes telling us the Falcon has a class 0.5 hyperdrive.
Most ships have a backup hyperdrive somewhere in the 10-16 rating.
@@timpoirier1552 Well, no, not really. No hyperdrive is 'equal to lightspeed'. That would be useless. No-one would ever get anywhere.
To cover journeys of only weeks across the galaxy takes MILLIONS of times lightspeed.
To do what films since Rogue One, or even really Revenge of the Sith (Coruscant to Mustafar) imply, in terms of travel, must be tens of millions of times lightspeed - even approaching 100 million.
And particularly bad in the latest film, maybe.
But yes, in other regards, most roleplaying game sources do treat it as 'each lower class number is twice as fast'. With the Class 0.5 being into the unofficial 'hotrod' scale.
ISD-What's up grandpa, still alive?
Arquitens-I'll dance on your grave
Honestly the remnant arquitens launch of tie fighters remind me of catapults in gundam to launch mobile suits.
Naval system classification
100-200 meters: Corvette
200-400 meters: Frigate
400-600: Cruiser
600-1000: Heavy Cruiser
I was debating about adding this design to my fleet list. It turned into a ship with 4 different variants.
Meanwhile, the Old Republic era Hammerhead Corvette: "These young'ns need to learn some respect!"
Lol how do they just shorten down the ship by that much without it looking drastically different?
technically speaking it became the vessel that replaced the class of vessel qui gon jinn and obi wan Kenobi used to get to the trade federation blockade around naboo in the opening 5 minutes of phantom menace.
Would personally love an overview on the second ‘flying brick’ in Star Wars. The PB-959 Patrol Boat. My personal favorite ship.
Personally one of my favorite ships in star wars
Awesome 👍
Damn a light cruiser that costs the same as a corvette?
This is one of my all time favorite ships and definitely my favorite light cruiser.
I always wondered if the twin light turbos could be swapped out for single heavy turbos.
Given the pros and cons of this ship I think I would rather have the c70 charger retrofit of the consoler. It has 5 heavy dual turbo lasers a medium laser cannon or heavy ion cannon, top speed of 1,200 kph and a class 1.5 hyperdrive. It can hold 4,000 metric tons of cargo, only needs 9 crewmen because much of the ship is automated and fi BBC nally it can carry an additional 20 troops or passengers. Did I mention it has 4 escape pods and the luxury escape pod known as the salon pod. The only thing I would change is upgrade the shielding, swap the heavy turbo lasers for light turbo lasers so I can target star fighters and capital ships also. And instead of 20 organic troops I would have 40 BX commando droids after all droids require less space and you don’t have to water or feed them.
Definitely my favorite Star Wars ship!
Absolutely LOVE this ship. Especially in Star Wars Squadrons.
Dewbacks are the galactic standard for cargo units.
Sci-fi writers never seem to understand what a refit is and treat it like waving a magic wand.
I love the Arquitens, it's one of my favourite ships in all of Star Wars, but there are a few things that bug me about the official stats. First, a slower hyperdrive and slower max acceleration than a Venator? I would've imagined that should be the other way around, since a light cruiser is expected to be faster than a ship of the line, right? If nothing else, the escort ships should be able to at least keep pace with them. Second, it seems like the official sources call the turrets on the dorsal and ventral surfaces the dual guns, and the broadside mounts the quad guns, but looking at the actual CG models used in TCW, the turreted guns are the quad guns, and the broadside mounts seem to be the dual batteries. Especially in shots like the flyby at 3:30.
Depends on what it was designed to escort. Could be the original role envisioned for it might have been to serve as a "heavy" convoy escort, to beef up the anti-starship capabilities that other escorts like the Charger might be short on. Serving in fleet battles instead of more second line duties might have been the result of it being available in numbers and reliable, rather than it being the ideal fit.
I think it's kinda weird how the Empire shortened it rather than extend it
Great looking ship! I also like the smaller size but still heavy weapons.
“Big things come in small packages.”
My favourite star wars design!
Huh. Didn't know that the Command Cruiser from Rebels was smaller then the Light Cruiser from the Clone Wars. Wonder if there was a reason for it? Also, the part about the fighters at the beginning was a bit confusing for I thought outside of Gideon's Cruiser such a ship never really had a real dedicated fighter compliment, with only Command Cruisers having the ability to externally dock fighters in the middle of its forward prongs.
I don't think a fully consistent scale for the Light cruiser exists, yet, @Robert Drexel . The Rebels version was roughly scaled to 325 meters, then down to 237, to my recollection.
But the class-546 version used by Moff Gideon, is larger still. Maybe as much as 680 meters.
Though concept art, showed 381, at first.
One of my faverite ships
You had me with the title
I love these things, In pretty much every Empire at War mod that has them, I always feel like I need to have about 5-10 of them as a wolf pack to pick off weaker ships while the main fleet distracts the enemy.
Hey MetaNerdz, any chance you could do a breakdown of the Empire's Strike-class medium cruiser?
Personally I think it's a ship that doesn't get enough attention
While the Star Destroyer takes the spotlight, the Arquitens is really the true workhorse for the Empire. It's smaller multipurpose ships like these that can be used for fleet escort, screening, and reconnaissance.
The Arquitens is a really cool escort ship/frigate. It's a shame the Empire couldn't manage it's fleet, the Arquitens would have made a fine rebel hunter.
Imagine if Thrawn had his hands on a fleet of those 546s 😅
Who do think has enough brains to design one ? moff Gideon is Obsessed with Making a Soup of DNA . First order has a Single Battlecruiser class and Dosent show it fighting other capital ships , Remnants just continue the existing Interceptors and Star destroyers
Maybe an old ISB ship
the ship used during the battle of Kadavo was called the Hand of Justice btw.
Off topic to video but is anyone else trying to watch some older vehicle explained videos get a only members of this channel can watch this video or is it just me
Any chance you’ll do a video on the Raider class corvette? It’s one of my favorites and wanna know more
I think that the reason for the difference in exhaust color is due to the mixture and burn of the fuel.
My all time favorite Star Wars ship
I wanted to print it out, I only found the Imperial and Republic version of the ship in scale for Star Wars Armada
Even for a prior Republic ship, I always had a love for the smaller Imperial ships. ISDs always take the pride of the fleet, but they are never the same without seeing the smaller imperial warships in tow.
Always loved the design of it. Have Gideon's ship as a LEGO set.
nice!
I have to question the in-atmosphere speeds frequently quoted - they just seem out of whack...
What is your favorite ship if you had to choose in both star wars canon and star wars legends
I wish to see a video on the AT:TE Republic Clone Walkers
arquintens one of my 3 favorite republic ships venator arquintens pelta
Don't forget the Acclamator and Victory, those two always have that unique look.
Star Wars Thrawn was amazing- I highly recommend it if you like Star Wars and reading.
i absolutely LOVE the imperial version, if i had to have a ship to operate smuggling from, or use as a frieghter, it would be that
The Arquitens is my all time favorite ship in star wars
A small squadron of "kittens" is one of my favorite loadouts for playing Armada--they are solid handlers, can take a beating, and in masse, deliver a brutal load of punishment even to far larger ISDs.
The Aaargh-Kittens is one of my favourite ships and I find it really hard to explain why.
I guess because I always felt the star destroyer is just too big and powerful a threat to be used as the base imperial presence as it so often is. Sure a small rebel cell might be able to avoid and outmanoeuvre an ISD, but the Light cruiser feels like a threat they could outsmart and actually reasonably take on directly.
Is there an overview on the pelta class frigate
Wasn't Moff gideon's overall ship size bigger? The shuttles that docked with imperial Era Arquitens had to remain outside the cruiser and just dock with it, while Moff Gideons allowed for the shuttle to completely land inside of the hangar in the front
I'm sorry but the title of 'The Ship Design That Never Died' belongs to the Hammerhead. It was in service in the old Republic all the way to the civil war and beyond
In the modern context ship classes from Corvettes up to Destroyers are considered as Escort Ships and ships such as Cruisers up to Aircraft Carriers are considered as Capital Ships so its interesting to me that a cruiser here is considered as a escort ship though during in ww2 many light cruisers were used in a escort role
Honestly with the opening in the middle i think there could be a big type of weapon maybe bigger the spha maybe as big as a siege canon laser but i don't know the scaling
I think that a pair of medium dual turbo lasers on the bottom of these would be good. They could then fire down on a battlefield as the commander inside commands the battle