Victory II Class Star Destroyer vs Assault Frigate Mark II | Star Wars: Who Would Win
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 9 авг 2017
- A classic Star Wars legends match-up today: The Empire's Victory II Class Star Destroyer takes on the Rebel Alliance's Assault Frigate Mark II. Rebels vs the Galactic Empire. Star Destroyer vs Dreadnought Refit. Victory Star Destroyer vs Assault Frigate mk ii. Who wins? Watch today's episode of Star Wars: Who Would Win to find out!
Both of these ships are classic Star Wars Legends vessels - the Victory class Star Destroyer has been in a ton of different works, while the Assault Frigate Mark II has been pretty much kept to the Star Wars: Galaxy at War video game, and the Star Wars Armada table top game.
***
Want to help the channel out?
Consider donating so I can upgrade my hardware: goo.gl/DJX619
Subscribe: goo.gl/vBao71
Join the (superfun!) Discord: / discord
And follow me on Twitter: goo.gl/i4BGcy! 
Кино
![Jelly Roll - Dead End Road (From Twisters: The Album) [Official Music Video]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/_Mb8CqKW4R8/mqdefault.jpg)
Thanks for watching guys, sorry this upload was late today - life has been busy!!
Want to help the channel out?
Consider donating so I can upgrade my hardware: goo.gl/DJX619
Subscribe: goo.gl/vBao71
Join the (superfun!) Discord: discord.gg/3jbNnaK
And follow me on Twitter: goo.gl/i4BGcy!
EckhartsLadder HI love your vids!
EckhartsLadder corelian destroyer vs venator attack cruiser
+dhmis 117 thanks dude!
EckhartsLadder your the best everyday i keep hoping you make a other vid and your welcome!!
Your videos are quality! btw i have a long requested topic: Tau Empire (Warhammer 40k) vs The Covenant (Halo)
hope this should be fun!
Anyone who played Empire At War knew who was gonna win this right off the bat
Facts though I do find that the mk2 has insane shields and armor but the victory has the firepower
I literally cut down dozens of mark 2s with the victory class
Lol
Exactly. Maybe 2-1 if you can get one on its own. I usually spammed these, corvettes and fighters/bombers and owned the empire.
Yeah
I won't lie: Ever since I've played EAW I kind of had a nerd crush on the mk2, so I was hoping for it to win.
I accept your points though.
Finally get to see the Victory class. Unfortunately it wasn't the Victory 1 with it's more interesting armerment, but I'll take what I can get.
Vatican vs Jedi order
The Swiss Guard will destroy, especially if the Jedi Temple is painted like a circus tent.
Aaron Lariosa Trick question, Emperor Palpameme was the last pop, look him up.
Haua
hide the padawans
it would actually make a lot of sense because the Swiss guard have guns
In Empire at War, I always found the Assault Frigate MKII a bit underwhelming. There's not really a noticeable improvement over the Nebulon B, and they're slightly more fragile in game. The Victory II however, is a definite improvement over the old Aclamator class that's available early in the game.
Great video, as always. Since we're talking about the Assault Frigate Mark II, I have to say, its progenitor, the Dreadnought-class Heavy Cruiser, is one of my favorite capital ships in the Star Wars universe. I think it could be a very capable ship, even in the Rebel/Imperial and Resistance/First Order era. Take the design, optimize the weapons placement a bit, and factor in automation to allow for a smaller crew size, then build it from the ground up with modern technology. With a lower crew requirement, as well as better weapons, armor, shields, and engines, it would be a formidable ship. Give it beefier engines, more point-defense turrets, and multiple shield generators, and it just gets better.
Providence class command ship smaller version vs the MC80 home one Type Star Cruiser
Isn't the Providence-class carrier/destroyer the same thing as the Taranch dreadnought?
@@princeofpokemon2934 well, that will be the big version of the Providence, I guess, but in this case is only going to be use the normal 1,087 meters version
This would be a cool fight but MC80 home one types were the strongest of the MC80 line and carried 120 fighters while the providence carries 240 weaker fighters but probably has more weapons. I think the MC80 wins
Love the videos ,keep up the good work!
I'd love to see my two favourite fast attack ships go head to head :
Marauder Corvette vs Carrack Cruiser
The Victory 2 class has always been one of my favorite ships in the star wars universe. great matchup
Glad to see your sub count going up! Your videos are honestly my favorite right now! Love every one :)
Dude, SVM is a nice touch. His channel was my first into into the EAW community. I'm glad you introduced an early member of this Community, one who was around at least 4 years ago!
Also, my reply is an idea for your next Video.
Also, I was thinking on a Video pitting the two main Jedi star fighters, the Delta-7/B and the ETA-2.
I've already got some points thought up, so bear with me on this.
First off, from sources including the Legends continuity, the 7/B could split the star fighter in two, with the Astromech controlling one end and the pilot controlling another, although it is never seen. This might be negated be the ETA-2's weapon capabilities, but I am unsure.
I believe you got this kind of wrong. In the "Empire at War" video game the aaf2 has overlapping forward firing arcs on all of its weapons. The ship tends to go broadside because of the game's terrible ai which tends to set the star destroyers into broadside and spin around your ships for no reason,limiting your firing arcs. And its shields actually have a moncal-level strength even in passive mode. Since Aaf2 has superior firepower when compared to vic2,it should win in a direct face-to-face engagement,unless vic2 carries any bombers
What about the missile launchers on the victory? Those things were pretty heavy and bypassed shields
That was on the Victory I
Alex Margaris The Victory-II had less missile launch tubes than the Victory-I.
no they get rid of it
Yeah the Victory-1 had a boatload of missile launchers, but the Victory-II stripped them out, focusing instead of speed and the impressive array of Ion Cannons. In a straight-up fight, I'd say the Victory-1 is more versatile and slightly better, but the Victory-II wins out in almost every other scenario thanks to it's immense speed for a ship its size, and its use of Ion Cannons to heavily damage shields and disable enemy ships.
Also, to give my tea after 4 years, the shield thing isn't true. That's only the case in the Empire at War game, usually a shield blocks anything that tries to bypass it
Home one Vs vagyr battle cruiser from homeworks 2. Awesome channel, keep up the great work!
for some reason, the toy version/ table top version contradicts you (in description) about the MK2's speed "this ship constantly surprised imperials with its speed". I kind of see a LOT of this at work.
Retribution class battleship from wh40k vs executor class Dreadnought. This got 282 likes in a previous video
WH just murders all of SW. They'll avoid this kinda thing, if they can
Not true
lol, I'm just saying the scale is completely weighted in WH 40ks favor.
Well it really depends on calcs but Imperium of Man's navy ships all have void shields which require a stupid amount of firepower to take down and a retribution class battle ship has 4 layers each of which recharge while the battle rages on. Even if you get through the void shields you have to get through meteres of adamantium hull which can arguably take more punishment short of someone ramming the damm thing. Even then the firepower and range go to the retribution class battleship pretty hard. To top it all off there are cannon sources of ships like these fighting at.0.75c which is ridiculous. Anything short of ramming the retribution class battleship is going to hurt the executor
Warhammer is a lot of fun to read, but they've a lot of fun making insanely powerful vessels. And it stays way more structured than SW, so it can't be blown off the way the Legends stats can.
Tanith 1st and only!
*1.* T-70 X-Wing VS E-Wing
*2.* Aclemator Class Assult Ship VS Nebulon B Frigate
*3.* Tie Defender VS Tie Silencer
*4.* MC85 VS MC90
Lieutenant Nomad play empire at war, you can find out that way
I have been subscribed for a few weeks and I think these videos are really cool so keep it up!!!
+Vader Gator thanks dude!
One thing I think you overlook in a lot of videos where there are 'fast' star destroyers with their wedge design going against slower, rebellion ships, is that yes, it may be faster but it would have to turn it's broadside to the Assault Frigate Mk.2 to move to it's flank, loosing it's efficient firing arc in the process. I do not believe that the Victory 2 can move faster in a measurement of degrees around the Assault Frigate Mk.2 then the AFMT can turn to keep facing it. TIE laser cannons will not be able to do ANYTHING against Mon Calamari shielding so I doubt the AFMT will waste more then half it's laser cannons firing at them.
Finally! I suggested this so many times! Thank you!
Rogue Squadron vs Inferno Squadron
Kenneth Kates When for Rouge Squadron, what time? They had many different pilots over it's time.
Battle of Endor, Wedge as commander.
thats barely a fight lol, wedge for the win
Wedge is the best starfighter pilot in the Rebellion aside for Luke. He'd demolish them.
You obviously haven't read the new Inferno Squad book. In equal fighters it would be a very close match. Iden Versio is one hell of a pilot herself.
Behemoth class battlecruiser from StarCraft vs Venator Star Destroyer. This would be fun.
i luv you Eckharts
+fleetus odin for god glad you enjoyed dude
thanks Eckharts
This is what I look forward to on RUclips everyday lol
Hey so what are the flappy bits for on the victory ii if they removed the missile tubes? Launch bays? But then it would have more fighters than the victory I. From the pictures from the hi res looks like hangars with launch rails or tubes for missiles still.which for being a deep space engagement ship would be wonderful. But if they removed them what did it get as replacement? Other than engines?
Ok I figured them out, they are the viens for flight whithin a planet. I'm also thinking they are where those 80 some odd concussion missiles are located. That seems like alot of fire power to just discard. Sounds like fighters would have no fun assaulting something pummeling them with missiles. Or even other cap ships with that magnatude of explosives
I think you got this one wrong, as you stated the Victory was Faster and Larger than the assault Frigate, this does not lend itself to being more maneuverable. The Assault frigate unless disabled somewhat would be able to turn and keep it's guns bearing on target.
I think that the Assault Frigate MK II is more valuable in a fleet. It's power relies on its ability to get in the enemies faces and just stick around there for a while and do damage. It has very advanced shielding and plenty of guns on either side to target multiple ships, so a group of Assault Frigate MKIIs would most likely be able to tank enough initial damage to maneuver around a similarly sized group of Victory IIs and come out on top with maybe a couple losses.
Great video again I saw this 48 min ago but thought it was yesterday's video lol
Recusant Class Light Destroyer vs Assualt Frigate.
Been requesting this matchup for months haha.
EckhartsLadder, nice video, but you forgot to mention that the Victory 2 got very much Missile-Launchers. It was actually one of its specialitys.
i would really like to see a video done on the covenant cruiser CCS Class vs imperial 2 star destroyer.
Someone 3D printed one for X wing in that picture Eck showed, but no one has ever really shown it. I may build one and use one in a tabletop game because I love tactics so much I want to play out whole battles on a tabletop
I'd love to see you and Space Dock do a collab. You're both fairly thoughtful and very indepth with/about the info.
+marsm9 I'd be down
I posted a message to him. Hope this works out!
Steangely, in EAW i always found the Assault Frigate to come out on top versus Victory cruisers provided the fightsrs were out of the equation
Bellator Class Star Dreadnaught vs. Mandator-III Class Star Dreadnaught.
Hey EckhartsLadder :) first of all i am a realy big fan of this series and i have an idea for a good match up:)
Katana Fleet (200 modifyed heavy Dreatnought Cruisers) vs Imperial Fleet (maybe the fleet they send to the battle of Endor)
PS: sorry for my bad english :)
I give up on trying to suggest providence vs mc 80 Maria so if this suggestion ever gets uploaded remember I commented that on the first video of this series so yaaaa
+Don'tTry thanks! Sorry it's just impossible to do all.
What was that game in the video with the star wars ships and the asteroid
Eckhart I agree with your analysis but I so love the look of the Assault frigate mk2 definitely one of the most amazing looking ships in Star Wars
+Paul Snell agreed!
EckhartsLadder even though it has no carrier bays. It probably like other rebel ships could support a fighter wing
What are the wings on the sides of the Victory 1 and 2?
The only places where we can compare speed and agility of these two ships is Empire at War RTS and Star Wars Armada tabletop. In both, the Frigate is faster, and much more maneouverable. It doesn't take much to bypass the powerful front firing arc of the VSD, and get him from behind.
The clone edition if z95headhunter vs the stock public model used be rebles and from legends z95 headhunter
Hey eckhartsladder big fan of the channel and I know I'm probably alittle late to get mine picked but I think it would be kinda cool to hear how much of the empires forces it would take to beat human forces as a united planet
How about the UNSC Spirit of Fire against the Enterprise from Star Trek? If someone can think of a better match up for the Spirit of Fire, please reply so.
like 4 times I heared "non-calamari shields" then I realised you were saying mon calamari shields XD
The assault frigate my was a refit of the dreadnought cruiser. However the mk2 had no relation to dreadnought or the mk1. It was only called the mk2 because of convince for the creators of empire at war. (Great game, highly recommended)
ik this isn't ship vs ship but can you pit master chief's blue team of Spartans vs Star war's Delta Squad Clone Commandos
How does being fast help you to keep an other ship right in front of you where your fire power is best? Even so this are big ships, its maneuverability that's key.
Could we examine my favorite ship, the Carrack light cruisers
Yes! 2 ships of even class! Perfect match up.
Hey, if you want more universes to pit star wars ship against, how about the Macross universe ships?
some match ups I can think of
1. Northampton class Frigate (2059 configuration) vs. Nebulon B Frigate
2. Ton-Falk class Escort carrier or Quasar fire class carrier vs. Guantánamo Class Stealth Space Carrier
3. Gozanti-class cruiser vs. Sentinel Class stealth Carrier
the differences between the fighters makes it a little hard to figure what to match up with what XP maybe VF-1 versus TIE/LN? and or X-wing?
Can you do a video about different kinds of weapon in star war please all the turbolasers kinds and how strong
You should do the MC-80 Home One type vs. the Mandator I (or II) Star Dreadnought
Isn't the Assault Frigate also present in the Force Unleashed 2 Wii version (Salvation)
I have no idea why empire didn't just spam Victory in movies. in legends there was a fleet full of those star destroyers and it was pucking effective. if the Victory II fires all it's cannon at 1 point, the amount of damage could wreck most of Mon calamari shit. and if 2 Victory II fire at 1 point, even the Home One will be wrecked in mouth.
Eli Smirnov the empire could by like tens of thousands of victory ll with the death stars money
Eli Smirnov I believe the original victory was way too specialised to be turned into the effective multirole ship. It could either be refitted into the battleship(vic2),planetary siege ship(vic1) or carrier(none existed,but I believe empire could do that,like the NR built Endurance out of Nebula).This would have been effective in an event of a full-scale war,but the empire had to focus on controlling its territory,which ISD did better due to its versatility(compared to vsd)
Eli Smirnov the later imperial class star destroyer ships had more firepower and a larger fighter wing with bombers too. I think it took like 4-5 victories to beat an imperial II class
Both the Victory I and Victory II had almost no fighter defensive measures. The Victory I was also noted to be quite slow. So any competent opponent would not be sending Mon Calamari ships at a fleet of Victory Star Destroyers or any escort to capital ship for that matter, but instead using ambush, hit and run, and/or blitzkrieg tactics send many squadrons of powerful star fighters and obliterate that fleet with probably minimal losses. Considering Victory's were 50,000,000+ and some of the best star fighters & bombers were 250,000(X-wing, A-wing, B-wing, Y-Wing, K-wing) or less, it would not be tactically nor financially effective to mass produce a ship like the Victory.
I would like to see the u-wing vs the x,y,b- wings or any of the rebel Alliance fighters vs each other or u-wing (maybe b-wing) vs the falcon
Keldabe class battleship vs Victory 2 class star destroyer; Darth Marr vs Satele Shan or Marr vs Malgus; Top 5 Mandalorians (Legends). Which one do y'all choose?
The Keldabe can hold against Imperial class star destroyers so the comparison is not really fair. Darth Marr in my opinion can clearly defeat Shan also he can defeat Malgus i think. Mandalorians?....Ordo is pretty cool although Boba is more of my favorite. Vizla is too softie.
Oops...I think I forgot the shield leecher device...Maybe Chimeara (however u spell it) vs. Anakin Solo
Keldabe wins, no contest. The Keldabe was a capital ship specialized in defeating smaller craft. Though I do feel that it will have issues with the victory’s bombers, I don’t think that will turn the tide. I give it to the Keldabe, 8.75 times out of 10.
@@leelambert1559 Wow, I never thought someone would find my question again. (which I forgot about) Thanks for answering it!
I like Victory class SD:s would’ve been nice to see more of them
Assault Frigate was also in the Star Wars Rebellion video game - the 4x game, basically total war in space
Whooo!
SuperVaderMan Cameo
love that guy. He and Eckharts, are my favorite starwars youtubers right now
The guy suggested Saber Tank vs T4B... I personally really want to see that
Can we have a mash up imperial II stardestroyer vs the zerg leviathan (allowing orbital air and land battles of the troops)
"The victory 2 was the second of the victory line..."
:O I had no clue!
How about a belletor vs. a resurgence? Although the belletor is bigger the resurgence the resurgence is more advanced due to its late appearance. Both are built on speed and are of the battle cruiser types. Just a thought but it would be cool to look through
I know that you have not done these for a while... But can you do a Gladiator-class Star Destroyer versus something?! :) Or the canon version of the Quasar Fire-class Light Carrier?? Or those two against each other??? :) :)
What is that outro song called?
Thrawn's seventh fleet and the usual ground forces in each of the ships plus Vader's 501st and walkers vs the us, Russia, and china's full military might (including overseas). The only restriction that I am suggesting is that Thrawn is included in this battle, and that the ships can only be as high as 25000 to 35000 feet up. Let me know what you guys think, after seeing the amazing video he did on the ISD II vs the USA, this idea popped into my head. Eckhartsladder, if you wish, I can leave a detailed description of Thrawn's seventh fleet. Just let me know.
Um, wouldn't the missiles of those three nation be enough to win the air battle? And more so, the ground forces of the empire are too small, and would be easily overwhelmed with numbers, not to mention firepower, and that's assuming that they even have any idea of where to strike or how to fight what we have. And BTW, hello, little Ahsoka :)
Hello Master Plo :) Have to say though, I'm accounting for those 3 nations' massive ground armies vs the around 10K stormtroopers that a single ISD tends to have on board, x6 with thrawn's 7th fleet. And I don't know what the interdictors will hold, along with the arquitens cruisers.
Ahsoka, Anakin has the dark side. Tell Yoda.
You're still talking about MAYBE 100,000 vs. an army of millions. Stormtroopers aren't super soldiers. They go down quite readily to being hit by rigid sticks. While that many ISDs floating around might tip the victory to the Empire over just one, the ground battle still goes to Earth.
Nope it did not. Those soldiers would have air support and the ISD make air superiority over the areas with Tie fighter squadrons while the Tie bombers can destroy enemy fortifications and military units. If a stormtrooper squad is in trouble the ISD can make orbital bombardment on any ground troops or strategic locations like armories, tank depots, airstrips, baracks and forts. An ISD can also use its batteries to hunt down subsonic missiles and airplanes the ties missed. Overall, with such support the stormtroopers (with their shitty aims) can win any ground battle. Even if they loose(or areas they dont deemed necessary to conquer) the Empire simply vaporize the area with barrage of turbolaser fire.
Result: Empire win, humans eradicated.
nebula class star destroyer vs mc 90
2-M Saber class Repulsor Tank vs Armored Assault Tank. I'm gonna keep trying.
Can we get a Viscount class Star Defender vs the Executor class Star Dreadnaught?
Hey EckhartsLadder could could please do the UNSC saber vs the tie interceptor
Whats the name of the music at 8:52
Starting about 6:45 in the video you show a game and label it super Vader man. Can you or someone tell me the name of that game it looks cool!
I am not a big modern gamer but like the older C&C style games.
Have a great day, love these videos!
Tie fighter vs Wraith dart (stargate atlantis)
OR
Daedalus battlecruiser (post asgard beam weapon upgrade) vs Acclamator assault ship
BC-304 Odyssey (From Stargate, Post-Unending, Pre-Ark of Truth, meaning no ZPM) vs Imperial-II Star Destroyer
hi if your still there I would love to see bossk vs Chewbacca or the guy below me suggestion which is flood vs star wars galaxy ,3d try
Can you do the Imperial II star destroyer vs the harrower class dreadnought
Like to see the tiger claw from when Commander 1 versus venater class Star destroyer
A interesting fight would be a fight between a Raider class corvette and a CR90 class corvette
0:58 that art if my home screen!
Epic
Allegiance-class battlecruiser vs Praetor Mark II-class battlecruiser
Mandator 2 dreadnaught vs the Malevolence (the best of the republic vs the best of the CIS)
A single Victory II class vs the three carrier from Captian America The Winter soldrer( project insight )
We don’t have any information on the helicarriers’ armament, crew capacity, or speed. And they have no shields, so one turbolaser blast to the engines = goodbye helicarrier.
1 proton torpedo = 💥 boom
I love this background music
A Republic venator vs. a mon calamari mc80.
Two versatile warships that can deploy a good amount of fighters that rely on quality rather than quantity.
Where are the guns on the frigate? I just don't see them
Keep making more!!!👍👍👍👍
what about the jj vengeance vs the reman scimitar?
I didn't know that the Assault Frigates were based on the Dreadnought-class. I wonder how powerful a fleet of them the size of the Katana Fleet slaved together would be...?
Well Eckhartladders can you do 3 TIE defenders vs 6 X-Wings
covenant cruiser vs imperial 2 star destroyer
what cruiser
Luke Gorst Rip this guy getting his suggestion before I did :(
the CCS Class
i would of chosen the RCS but i think the CCS is better
i would of said RCS but the CCS is better i think
Z-95 headhunter as it was during the clones Wars vs the x-wing
Mic Clank many people already said this before me, but ill repeat. I hope this wont get picked because the x wing is a straight upgrade to the z 95
the x-wing was just a newer Z-95 so i think the x-wing would win
Mic Clank I like that idea
AdoringFan000 The X-Wing is an upgraded version of the AF4 Z-95. The Clone Wars Z-85 seemed to be VERY fast compared to the AF4 Z-95 and seems to be on par with the X-Wing. I refer to the Clone Z-95 as the Z-85 because the Episode guide initially called it the Z-85
+Eckhart's ladder I would argue that as an intangible even though many larger rebel ships don't have hanger bays they tend to be capable of supporting fighter wings via hatches. Rebel starfighters you'll agree outclass Imperial fighters on average
aclaimator vs munificent class star frigate
Could you verse the millennium falcon against Darth Vaders tie advanced
The Victory Class would win
agreed, it is made for anti-cap warfare. it's the only one of the ships with heavy turbolasers and Ioncannons + fighters
Halo super mac with a few frigate escorts or cruisers vs super star destroyer
make the Death star, the Executor, 17 Star Destoyers II vs. 8 mc 80 liberty class and a bunch of frigattes!
Get it?
I vote the Victory II. Also, the Victory-class vessels were known for strong hull armor.