Samyang AF 85mm f1.4 FE II - Hands On Review
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- Опубликовано: 20 окт 2024
- Here is our hands on review of the new 2nd Generation Samyang 85mm f1.4 FE II as part of their 50 year anniversary.
We have used it with:
Outdoor natural light portraits
Studio portraits with artificial lights
Outdoor infrared photography
Videography
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Gears used:
Cameras:
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Sony A7R3
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Gimbal:
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That sun flair is beautiful. Wonderful how you use the weakness of the lens as a positive.
I really like when the lens flare has this kind of character, it's great to use it for artistic purposes.
A variable ND filter should help with backlight. But I do agree the lens flare can be very nice of that's the look you want.
I prefer not to use variable ND as I don't like the polarisation effect coming with it. I prefer proper ND filters and CPL separately :)
The MK1 85mm is a great lens, no need for an upgrade 😀
If you already have the Mk1 and you do mainly photography then there is not much reason to upgrade as you are right, the Mk1 is already a great lens.
But if you shoot videos then it is a very worthy upgrade.
Does steadyshot work with it?
Great review you guys, I ended up selling the old 85mm for the new 135mm 1.8
you won't regret. The 135mm is an absolute beast.
The MK1 had lovely bokeh BUT a strange yellow tint. Has the new MK2 eliminated that yellow tint? Thank you.
Yes it did, there is part in the review where we talk about the colour rendition.
Great review, cause 85mm is one of my favourite lens,... I'm new to your channel, but this was such an informative video,.. you've earn yourself a Sub...👍
Glad it was helpful! And welcome to our channel!
Hi would you chose this over the viltrox 85mm 1.8? I heard the viltrox can also be updated to 1.6
Without hesitation. The Samyang has a special optical formula as it has no aspherical element which makes its bokeh gorgeous and smooth. It has a really beautiful rendering which makes it to one of the best portrait lenses.
Still love my Samy 85 M 1.4 IF
I hope that those 1.4 were misfire or something went wrong, because I will be returning if it is not sharp at 1.4 . 🤔🤷🏻♂️
It is sharp, you get really good details even at f1.4, but when you stop down just to f2.8 then you will see what the lens is really capable of. But this is expected, first of all no large aperture lens has peak performance wide open, second just like the Mk 1, this lens has no aspherical elements and I believe that's the real strength of this lens, absolutely gorgeous bokeh rendering. I checked almost all reviews of the Sigma 85mm f1.4 DG DN especially the ones where they compare image quality with GMaster and the Mk1 and in my opinion the three lenses perform very similar (Sigma might have a extremely minor advantage in sharpness when it comes to wide open, negligible in real word use), except when it comes to rendering Samyang has the best bokeh :)
If you ever used the Mk1 then you know what these lenses are capable when it comes to sharpness, and I never really seen people complain about the Mk1 in that regard, apart from the yellow tinting, which is gone in the Mk2
I love your reviews!
Thank you so much!
The second version left the strengths of the first, getting rid of its shortcomings, which mainly concerned autofocus, plus, as I understand, they replaced the autofocus motor with STM, which should increase reliability. I don’t know how at 85 I, at 35mm I version often crashed when using tracking focus.
I think we're lucky as we never had crashes with any of our Samyang lenses. The 85mm Mk1 did the aperture bug a few times but as far as I know that was fixed in the latest firmware.
@@holdmylenscap7241 Аnd that's good. My 35 1.4 mk 1 freezed my Sony a7-2 with open shutter. One way out - get battary out and put it in. After that shatter slamed and camera worked well about 1000-500 frame
We used the Mk2 on the A7-2 a bit and had no issues, but to be honest we only shot like 100-200 shots with that camera, mainly testing the infrared capabilities (my A7-2 is modified for full spectrum)
@@holdmylenscap7241 I shot about 30,000 on 35 1.4 mk 1. But finally it depent from a specific instance of lens - some of them have no issues, some crashed after attaching on another camera. Warranty is definetly needed.
Ay debating kung bibili ng viltrox 85mm or samyang 85mm 😁
Hey, Alyssa & Peter! I saw your viral video titled (Samyang AF 135mm f1.8 - First Look) which has 28K views. I liked this video a lot, after that I watched a lot of your videos and I think your video is addictive.
Thank you for your kind words 😊 We'll work hard to make more contents.
@@holdmylenscap7241 You are very talented in your profession, but I'm sad because you are not getting the praise you deserve, I can see your talent. But why can't people see🙃
So the yellow tint in the mk1 is really an issue? I am thinking of getting Samyang 85 but confused with either mk1 or mk2
It has a slight warm tone but nothing that can't be fixed in post process. But if you can get the Mk2 as it performs better :)
Hello friends, I have sony a6400 And I want to buy Samyang AF 85mm F1.4 and what do you think? Is it a good combination for portraits?
Yes it is. :)
Newbie here with perhaps a dumb question, but what is the red and black hanging tag attached to the camera you can see it at 4:41...? I've seen it on several other videos as well. Just wondering
It is the Peak Design anchor for their quick release system we use with our neck straps. It's pretty useful and highly recommended especially if you like to change neck straps :)
Can I buy Sigma 85mm f1.4 or samyang 85mm f1.4 for photography??
Yes you can both portrait lens except sigma is the real deal portrait lens and very expensive but worth it and the samyang is just the little brother for beginners or even experienced
Sigma is a great lens, and is very sharp, but bigger and heavier than the Samyang and has a very modern rendering. The Samyang might be a little softer wide open, but it has a beautiful rendering like vintage lenses. Both lens has their own strength and weaknesses. Personally I prefer the rendering of the Samyang as the pictures made with it have life in them while the Sigma ones look almost like CGI render.
Is it ok for sony A6600?
please give us a tutorial of how you edit phots.. specially the one that the girl is holding the jar .. i lik that edit
Thanks! I'll keep that in mind for future videos 😊
Is the lens suitable for sony a74 ?
Yes it is. We are using it on A7IV and A7RIIIa too. Works perfectly on both
Nice shots and review! Is Ms Alyssa a fellow Filipino?
Yes 😊 From GenSan :D
KABAYAN!
@@boredproductionsofficial uy kumusta?!
Ooohh.. hello there!! Nakakatuwa po kayo mag asawa. Hehe
Bravissimo as per usual, the greatest reviews and content on RUclips,
Peter is correct with the Alice in wonderland!!!
Would the atoms ninja 5 be any use for a photographer who focuses in manual mode please 🙏
Nice colors! How did you grade?
You mean the photos or the video? :)
Photos are edited in Affinity Photo and the video is edited in Davinci Resolve
@@holdmylenscap7241 videos. Awesome work! Do you sell your LUTs?
We are working on a LUT pack, but it's not ready yet :)
After 7 years of doing adverts and commercial with my 35 and 50, I'm finally stepping off into portraiture world and I'm shopping for my first ever 85mm! (Yes, I have never in my life owned an 85mm lens!) I have to say, I am kind of disappointed with the lens choice I'm offered! I haven't yet found a good 85mm and this Samyang is no exception. I've been shooting with Zeiss, Leica and Hasselblad 35, 50 and 55 lenses all my career so I'm used to that smooth dimensional rendering, micro contrast and those apochromatic aspherical lens designs, which I can't seem to find anywhere. :( Even the Zeiss 85mm (Batis) doesn't have that typical dimensional rendering and micro contrast I'm used to. So far I looked (and tried) the Sonys GM, the Sonys 1.8, the Zeiss Batis, all three of Samyangs 85mm lenses, Sigmas ''new'' 1.4 and Tokinas 1.8 - all of which are disappointing. Next monday I'll be testing out the Zeiss Loxia 2,4/85 which is supposed to have the same dimensional rendering and micro contrast as the Sony-Zeiss E mount 50mm 1.4 but that still sounds below what I'm used to.
At the moment, the two main lenses I am using for my work are the 35mm and 50mm f2 APO ASPH from Voigtlander and when I need Auto-Focus I have the Sony-Zeiss 55mm 1.8 which renders almost as good as the Voigtlander 50mm f2 APO ASPH. I wish Voigtlander made a newer version of their old 85mm APO ASPH, like they did with their 35 and 50...
Does anyone here maybe know any good 85mm lenses on par with the aforementioned lenses? Price doesn't matter as long as it's a native E mount lens - and preferably a newer lens so I don't have to buy an adapter again.
I wonder how much it'll cost. I've been looking to get a 85mm
It's £767 in the UK and $799 in the US
@@holdmylenscap7241 my heart is officially broken 🤣💔
give it some time and the price will drop. The Mk1 starting price was very similar and it's now at least 30% lower. In the meantime have a look at eBay for a used Mk1 cheap ;) That lens is almost as good for photography as the Mk2, the main difference is when you do videography.
@@holdmylenscap7241 Thank you for the tips 🙏 I shall have a look.
hi kabayan! :) ask ko lang po, i already got the samyang 50 1.4 ii, same color po kaya sya dyan sa 85 ii? or mas yellowish po ung 85ii? salamat po :) naguguluhan ako kung mag ver.1 or ver.2 ako na 85 hehehe! doing portraits lang.
Hello! Ang bagong 85 MK2 ay cooler tone kumpara sa ibang 2nd gen... Pero mas yellow yung MK1 talaga kesa sa MK2, mas malapit sya sa colour rendition ng mga bago. Mas malinaw din kuha ng bago syempre at mas magaan 😊 parehong Pareho sa 50 mk2
@@holdmylenscap7241 Ayos! salamat po. will go for mk2 na. pero last question, which will you choose, 85ii or ung 135 ni samyang? if 50 mk2 na ung existing ko po na line up.
135 all the way haha
Hmm, we are in 2022. It has to be razor sharp at 1.4 in the middle. Otherwise, hmm. Nice video, thanks!
It's not the year, it's physics which will be always a limit. Even the GMaster (which is double the price) and the Sigma are not razor sharp at f1.4 in the middle, and with such wide apertures it is most likely near impossible. But for the type of shots you do at f1.4 you don't need the same razor sharp image quality that you will need when stopped down. Portraits actually benefit from a bit softness (hence the portrait lenses with built in softening are still well sought after and going for crazy high money), and for landscapes you are not using f1.4. The Samyang is fairly sharp in the middle with nice amount of details wide open which can be further improved with software like Topaz Sharpen AI and you only need to stop it down to f2.8 to achieve really good sharpness from corner to corner. But in return _in my opinion_ wide open you have one of the most pleasing bokeh, which is more important in portraits than razor sharp pores on the model's face ;)
@@holdmylenscap7241 Thanks for the very informative reaction. I appreciate it. As a vintage lens user, I do appreciate the character of the lenses, and I don’t always look for clinical sharpness , especially for portraits work. My favorite 85mm lens is the Canon FD 85mm 1.2L, which is a manual focus one, but nice and sharp enough in the middle even wide open and with beautiful bokeh as well. I do own the first version of Samyang as well, and the manual focus version too. No complains really. However, I thought an update will bring an improvement of sharpness in the middle, for those who like pixel peeping. I don’t 😀. I just don’t see much justification for an upgrade. Yes, the weight, the dimensions, the buttons, but at the end of the day, the first version seems to be just as capable, to be honest. The 135mm 1.8, well that one seems to rock and the Sony GM doesn’t seem to be better, while much more expensive. Anyway, I looked at more of your videos, I subscribed, because I truly enjoy your work. Keep it up and all the best!
I 100% agree with you. For photographers the MkII does not offer much apart from the newer, smaller design and the more quiet AF. If you have the MkI and you love it then carry on using it as it is a marvellous lens. With the 85mm f1.4 (both versions) Samyang aimed at portrait photographers that's why they left out the aspherical elements to create this more pleasing bokeh and I think many people love the Mk1 and will love the Mk2 for it's "classic vintage" rendering. The 135mm is a more sophisticated lens, with more sharpness and better CA (especially LoCA) performance and flare resistance, but it has a more "modern" rendering. I believe Samyang did choose very well when they kept the two lenses apart from each other in terms of rendering as 85mm and 135mm are quite similar so normally there would be no reason to get both, but due to the characteristic difference I believe it makes sense to have both.
Thank you very much for your subscription, it's really appreciated :)
@@holdmylenscap7241 Excellent point. 👌🏻
@@holdmylenscap7241 not really. The new sigma is razor sharp at 1.4!
Are you pinay mam??
Syempre naman! 😊
@@holdmylenscap7241 yes!!!! I knew it!!! Ahahaha ano po sa tingin nyo 50 or 85 na samyang ung g2 nila pwede nyo po ba ako bigyn ng tips naguguluhan ako e😂😂 im street photograper from italy
Depende anong style mo rin. Ganda 85mm kung trip mo yung medyo close the subject tsaka magandang subject separation, at medyo malayo ka konti sa subject mo sa street, Di sila mailang sayo 😂
50mm kasi is classic focal length yan ng mga Street photographer, like, look up Henri Cartier-Bresson, famous street photographer 😍
Pareho lang performance nyang dalawa 50 and 85 MK2, AF, sharpness tsaka colour rendition 😊
@@holdmylenscap7241 ok po salamat po ng marami!!!
@@holdmylenscap7241 meron po ako ung first gen. Binenta ko 😂 4months ago cguro pwede naxako bumili😂samalat po ng marmi
Thais lens is not sharp 😢
We're using this lens for a while and can't complain. But we also don't pixelpeep :)
Sajnálom, hogy magyarul nincs màr felirat! :/
Sajnos mostanában nem jutott rá idő. De lehet később pótolni fogom :)
@@holdmylenscap7241 Nagyon köszi!!! :) Egyébként nagyon jók a videóitok! 👌
Köszönjük :)
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