How do you feel about the Rokinon/Samyang 85? Rokinon 85mm f/1.4 (Good Option for New Portrait Shooters / Budget Hybrid Shooters!) Amazon geni.us/yTrSM | BH geni.us/ej6Prv1 Sony 85mm f/1.8 (STILL HIGHLY RECOMMEND) Amazon geni.us/X5ka0jW | BH geni.us/jA8AAg Sony 85mm G Master f/1.4 (Only if you're ballin') Amazon geni.us/WNWF | BH geni.us/t2Q6
I traded in my 85mm 1.8 for this Rokinon and don’t regret it. Personally, for portraiture the difference in AF speed is not a big deal. The colors and bokeh swirl looks really good to me. I did a full photoshoot and the eye af did not fail me with the rokinon at 1.4
Awe thanks Jason! 🙏 I'm always here to help ya out whenever you get sick of staring at your own face on camera. But we all know you love that too much 😜
01:08 this is the setup I have been looking for the comparison of these lenses. same light, almost same cameras, same distance from object, same aparture. and by this way it is easy to see difference if it really exists. Thank you Jason.
Kitty is cute as hell! You definitely picked a nice subject for your portraits lol and you make a compelling case for the Rokinon. All things considered, flaws and all, it seems like a very good lens for the price
I just bought the Sony f1.8 and returned it to get the Rokinon 85mm f1.4 (just got it). After seeing the out-of-the-box color rendition and that the AF is actually faster than both Sony's in certain situations, I was sold.
I wish we had more time with her! Definitely would've love to get her input on the lens. But we shot all the test stuff in a couple hours before catching our flights lel
Interested to see what you find. I have a friend who got COMPLETELY different results. The AF and reliability were terrible. I'm assuming the one he got wasn't updated to the latest firmware.
@@JasonVong Seems like your copy performed really good and I was surprised with the results it could produce! I'm gonna compare it to the batis 85 and see how much of a difference the oss does in an 85 mill lens! Thanks for your videos man!
Followed your channel in few months, and I ended with buying sony a7iii, sony 85mm f1.8 and tamron 28-75. My camera before was sony a6000 with sigma 30mm f1.4
Most lenses work well in standard situations. Most of the time you get to the differences in extreme situations: extremely low light, extremely bright light, stray light, sunlight, fluorescent light, extreme high or low contrast, fast-moving subjects. Then you might run into trouble focusing, experience flaring, ghosting, etc. The next thing you want to know is how it contributes to your workflow. You want something that gets to the desired result in a minimum amount of time. So sometimes an extra button or switch does the trick. You also might want to use the lens that works similar to the thing you are shooting most of the time with. You want to do it always the same way and not to think about where the button on this lens is compared to your other lenses.
So true, I also use 45 mm f1.8 for portaits, it’s and interesting focal lenght. But 85 mm rocks! www.digicameratips.com/top-10-rokinon-lenses-for-the-sony-fe-mount-in-2021/
Great stuff Jason, Very impressive Rokinon.... Really make the Sony GM look very overpriced. 05:33 - The Sony GM has worse Chromatic Abberation on the edges of Kitty's jumper, the jacket sleeve ZIPPER & in the bokeh outlining on the right??? :O The slightly warmer cast of the Rokinon also appears to render colours a bit nicer for portraits than the GM ?
Used 85/1.8 under the rain, had no problems at all. Also, I own both lenses and I would not say Samyang looks any better in terms of build quality (it's good for both lenses).
@@ronkumar1093 it's a very difficult choice. I have both lenses and have no plans to sell either of them. If you don't need precise autofocus in AF-C mode, then Samyang is a good choice otherwise I would pick Sony
Exactly what I needed to know! Thanks for the honest review! I do weddings and personal branding and need a new primary lens. I think we’ll be rocking the 85 1.8 for the next good while. I’ve played with it for a week and it is soo nice!
Great review, thanks! Made me keep my reliable Sony 85mm f1.8 . I also tested 1.4 vs 1.8 and saw that "bokeh" looks very similar. ISO performance is not an issue with Sony, so my main focus is how round bokeh is when you stop down the lens (I hate hexagon bokeh!). And you need to stop it down if you shoot more than one person to make both persons faces in focus. Also focus reliability is top priority - no matter that your picture bokeh will be nicer, if your subject face will be completely out of focus :D was thinking to sell my 85/1.8 and get samyang, but after your video - I will think no more :D
From my experiences from Nikon, Canon and Sony, 85 f/1.4 lenses are always slower. I think it's the nature of the build of the lens. But, it's sharper at f/1.8 vs the native f/1.8 lenses.
That's the original Samyang 85mm f1.4...They are now on the MkII version which is apparently much better for AF accuracy and speed...So It would great to see you review this too.
I will stick with my 85 f1.8. and I have an old Sigma 85 that I have always loved, that I adapt if I want f1.4..... but so far since getting the Sony 85 I haven't touched the old lens. I just love the size and weight of the the Sony 85 f1.8,,,, it's perfect for my A7r lll. and I also love my 55 f1.8 ,,,,, I guess I'm tired of heavy glass. now I wish Sony would put out a 35 f1.8 that competes with the image quality of the 55 and 85 f1.8 lenses. and also small and light. but for now I'm using my 28 f2
why didn't you include the Batis in the test since its already in your hands? it would have been nice to see the difference especially compared to the 1.8
I guess you did not keep the same focus drive speed in both cameras. The one with Sony lenses must be on Medium, or Slow focus drive speed. If it was that slow, it would not give that smooth and precise transition. It would hunt a bit. Can you check again?
This video seals it for me. If you don't need video, there is almost no reason to get the Sony's over the Samyang (Rokinon). Samyang had faster autofocus than the GM, less rounded bokeh and slightly less sharpness at 1.4. The differences become less as you go to 1.8 and beyond. For me, that doesn't justify the massive price difference. The only thing the Sony 1.8 has on the Samyang is the autofocus, but less difference in still photos. That's a worthy sacrifice for that extra stop of light IMO.
I thought this was Kitty's movie so I clicked it. But I do sometimes watch some of your videos Jason! But holy crap, that was some confident walking by Kitty...
after 3-4 years of using Samyang 85 1.4, as long as the object doesn't move too fast, it could provide good enough image quality and focus performance. And it is comfortable for low light situation. At its price, a big bang for money comparing to GM or GM II. Of course, sometime you may wonder if the 85 1.8 could focus a little bit faster and light your camera bag too.
I'm considering getting a FF lens for my sony a6400 (so i can have lenses for a future FF camera, and also why not). the funny thing is, when you start to have a few regular goto lenses, as i do now, and think about the future, while you are also deciding what filter set up to get (as I am now) things like the filter size matter....somewhat. At the moment my largest lens filter size is 67mm on my Rokinon 12mm wide. that Rokinon 85 has a 72mm filter thread whereas that sony 85 has 67mm filter thread. I Can Not decide if I should go ahead and "Filter up" to a master 72mm (or even 77) filter set up with various step up rings, or use 67mm filter set up as my main set up for now. I'm going to order filters today or tomorrow, and I'm not getting cheap ones so it's one of those photography gear puzzles. I have the Sigma 30mm and most likely will get the 56mm (maybe), as a side note and I love Sigma's lenses so far. How bout that Sirui 50mm 1.8 1.33x Anamorphic lens as another side not though!! (also 67mm thread..HA!)
Curious to see that little difference between Zeiss Batis and Sony 85. It's essentially the same exact lens design. You should make a video comparison.
In the UK the Rokinon f1.4 and the Sony f1.8 are both £599. At the same price point is it basically then a comparison of a bigger aperture and some nice colouring vs weight savings and autofocus accuracy?
I'm definitely looking at either the Rokinon or Samyang 1.4 The 1.8 focuses faster because it has less glass and the difference in terms of focus between 1.4 and 1.8 is surprisingly a lot, imho :)
Is there any chance, Jason that you could make a comparison between this awesome Sony 85mm f1.8 (on a a7xxx) vs Sigma 56mm f1.4 (mounted on a a65/64) & why not the same Sony 85mm G on the a65/64. All of this in the same way as this very video, bokeh-ball, focus speed and all that. I'm in the edge of replacing my Sigma 56mm with the Sony 85mm but I need you, exactly you to do this comparison, pretty please 🙏🏼
Gaston.......where did you bought your 8 4 mm 1.4 i always wanna get one....Sony the best 85mm 1.4 GM Slow wy,,,,need bigger motor maybe the glass .........Glass glass glass SIZE size.
Samyang/Rokinon/Walimex is the best bang for buck and has been for many many years. Thank you Samyang. You've made me a lot of money via professional shoots.
Great review! Jason I already own the Batis 85mm for my A7iii and love it, but sometimes do wish I had the creamy bokeh of an f/1.4. Glad that you see the difference between the Batis and the Sony f/1.8, I do too. Also Batis has stabilization so it works better on my old a6000.
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Like the most sympathic lens comparisons ever. Love your style, your vibe, your realism and your geeking out on the Zeiss ... ;-) Rock on! :-)
With the Sony f1.8 being both sharp and affordable, Samyang tried to fill a space that wasn't really there. The thing about Samyang lenses (and any other non-Sony E-lens) is that camera firmware updates can really mess things up. I really like my Samyang 50/1.4, but it's totally unreliable since the A9 v5 update. I wrote the company, and they're working on a fix, meanwhile the lens is just sitting on my desk...
Hey!! I love your videos. Thank you for making them. They are honestly so helpful. I was wondering what lens you’re filming with in this video? I hope you don’t mind me asking. 😊
Jason, could you do a video about changing lenses? The info, tips, do's & dont's, etc?? It would be an immense help personally since i use a 6400. Hehe. Thanks and more power!
Hey man! How are you? One thing I want to know about the Samyang: How's the manual focus ring? Is it long to pull focus? Because I have a Sigma 30mm which is basically impossible to use manual focus, because it is tooooooo long! Thank you
I've heard that it is one of the better focus by wire rings. Very smooth and damped well. Heard no bad things about it, but that's just my experience. I'm thinking of buying it, but have yet to pull the trigger.
What are your thoughts on the Rokinon 35 1.4? Have you got your hands on it yet? I'm not really sold on the 28 f2.0 and am pretty close to shopping for a 35, let me know your thoughts Jason!
I'm so confused between Samyang 85 1.4 and Sony 85 1.8. for a7iii Is the difference between the two massive? I prefer going with native sony glass but then f1.4... at this price is just unbeatable... Can you suggest the best option? Please
Didn't hear great things about the 50 when it first came out but started to hear it was improving since the 35mm came out! Happy they are supplying budget primes to the Sony Alpha Universe!
Jason Vong since it’s release and firmware update (s) how has it really improved, ie focusing, sharpness etc. should a novice on a budget buy or wait, save and buy...?
Jason Vong ok cool! It’s been about 8 months since you or any one else have re-reviewed it. P. S. Happy you didn’t stay in Japan. Lol Thank you for the time and energy you put in sharing and educating us! P. S. S. Miss you and that one camera guy.
Both f1.4 lenses are at their sharpest at f/4. And at that particular f-stop, there is noticeably less sharpness with the Samyang in the corners, and a tiny bit less sharpness in the middle. Surprisingly however, with the Sony f/1.8, it is a little bit sharper in the middle and slightly sharper in the corners, than the Sony f/1.4 at f/4. It is however, marginally less light-sensitive overall, with a slightly lower t-stop rating (ref: dxomark), of around 1/5 of an f-stop. T=1.8 vs T=1.5 - This means that for any given combination of shutter speed and aperture, the superior f/1.4 will give you a lower ISO. eg 100 vs 120. This small difference is barely noticeable though, and given that the Sony f/1.8 is a slightly sharper lens, then unless you are a bokeh obsessive, the Sony f/1.8 is probably not only a more practical lens than the Sony f/1.4, but it's also US$1,100 cheaper. I'm keeping my Sony f/1.4 however, because it has an external aperture ring which I really like to use, and it's the only lens that gets truly circular bokeh balls at f/1.4 - This is something of course, that most lay people would say: "so what".
I thought nobody would remember that! Maybe! My wedding content didn't do so well last time so I stopped. I might have to come in at it with a different approach!
Good idea! I definitely do consider the value if I were to resell the lens in the future. Sony resale values were super low in the beginning but they are climbing their way up now that there are more alpha cameras in peoples hands. You used to be able to net a GM for 1200!
Did you update the firmware to v3 for the Rokinon? I updated mine and the auto focus is noisy and definitely not quiet like your video. I wonder if something is wrong.
Hey! Do those lenses have Focus By Wire? I bought the Tamron 28-75mm few months ago and i'm really struggling with FBW when i shoot on manual focus. Now i'm looking for a prime lens without Focus By Wire or at least with an indicator on it.
TaSoS all Sony lenses are focus by wire, unless you get a designated manual focus lens like a vintage lens, meike lens, Samyang’s manual focus lenses, etc
@@bballer151331 Hey thanks for response! I tried recently the Sigma 50mm 1.4 art and it didnt seem to have focus by wire. It is also really helpful that its focus ring has a start and finish point. Do you know if Zeiss Batis 85mm has FBW? Thank you!
@@sirggkas Yes Zeiss too. Sigma Art is different because the lenses were designed for DSLR and got readapted for mirrorless, hence the focusing is much better manually
Wow, I love the contrast on the Samyang! I used to stay away from Rokinon/Samyang because of bad c/a but these tests look great!! I actually prefer the bokeh, too!
It was between the rokinon and the 85mm1.8. Went for a used 85mm 1.8 for 400 bucks because I really didn't need that 1.4. I prefer the faster af, the much much lighter body cuz I'm carrying it around all day, af mf button and the useful focus hold button. I hate heavy lenses on the Sony body without the battery grip which adds even more weight to balance it out
The Sony 85mm 1.8 is a beast of a lens for the price. When I had my Sony, that was one of the first lenses I picked up. Great comparison Jason, shout out to Kitty for cameo! Also embrace the gas, there’s no way to stop it lol
Hi Jason, great video and collaboration with Kitty, that I am following as well 😊. I am just wondering how those "budget" lenses work with a a7riii. Nothing against the a7iii, but the pixels are smaller on the R, does it mater? I am starting my Batis collection as well but I would be happy to save some money sometimes 🤭 thanks a lot and keep the good content.
How do you feel about the Rokinon/Samyang 85?
Rokinon 85mm f/1.4 (Good Option for New Portrait Shooters / Budget Hybrid Shooters!)
Amazon geni.us/yTrSM | BH geni.us/ej6Prv1
Sony 85mm f/1.8 (STILL HIGHLY RECOMMEND)
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Sony 85mm G Master f/1.4 (Only if you're ballin')
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I need this but I am poor :(,
hello boss,is it good for a6000 the sony 85mm 1.8?thanks...
@@jaypeebaluyot8691 a little tight imo. Sigma 56mm is the better choice!
I love the Rokinon 85mm 1.4 the image quality is great. I needed an 85mm where my Sigma 135mm wouldn't have enough room to shoot.
then its perfect!
The Rokinon actually looks sharper at f1.4 to me. Awesome job once again Jason!
My eyes are Sony biased
@@JasonVong no argument there lol
Me too! I thought the Rokinon looked sharper and had more micro-contrast.
I agree ike, plus the rokinon has a much nicer color than the other two.
Great review!!! I’m on welfare so the Rokinon will be perfect.
I traded in my 85mm 1.8 for this Rokinon and don’t regret it. Personally, for portraiture the difference in AF speed is not a big deal. The colors and bokeh swirl looks really good to me. I did a full photoshoot and the eye af did not fail me with the rokinon at 1.4
Awe thanks Jason! 🙏 I'm always here to help ya out whenever you get sick of staring at your own face on camera. But we all know you love that too much 😜
stop stealing my spot light!!
If I’m being honest, Kitty in the thumbnail is the real reason that I clicked on this video..
@@TiredEyes77 😍😍😜😂 Thats the best. Thank you
Kitty...thick 😍
01:08 this is the setup I have been looking for the comparison of these lenses. same light, almost same cameras, same distance from object, same aparture. and by this way it is easy to see difference if it really exists. Thank you Jason.
As a photographer and very much not videographer as well I'm a lil more leaning towards the Rokinon
Kitty is cute as hell! You definitely picked a nice subject for your portraits lol and you make a compelling case for the Rokinon. All things considered, flaws and all, it seems like a very good lens for the price
Shouldn't be surprised that the F1.8 focuses faster. It has less glass to shift around than either of the F1.4's.
Yup easy and "wider" focal plan at 1.8
I’m personally a 50mm portrait guy but I’m considering the Sony 85. It’s definitely a great bang for the buck.
Adorama sells a kit 548 now
I just bought the Sony f1.8 and returned it to get the Rokinon 85mm f1.4 (just got it). After seeing the out-of-the-box color rendition and that the AF is actually faster than both Sony's in certain situations, I was sold.
Glad you traded in for something better for your case!
Same story. Sold my Gmaster and picked up the 85 1.8. Could not be happier.
Great video Jason. Nice collab with Kitty. I really like her channel.
This is a tough decision between the Rok and the Sony 1.8.
I wish we had more time with her! Definitely would've love to get her input on the lens. But we shot all the test stuff in a couple hours before catching our flights lel
Yay thanks for watching!
Exciting! Waiting for this lens to do a review of it myself!
Interested to see what you find. I have a friend who got COMPLETELY different results. The AF and reliability were terrible. I'm assuming the one he got wasn't updated to the latest firmware.
@@JasonVong Seems like your copy performed really good and I was surprised with the results it could produce! I'm gonna compare it to the batis 85 and see how much of a difference the oss does in an 85 mill lens!
Thanks for your videos man!
Yes please! I wasn't able to compare it to the Batis!
@@JasonVong At your service my man!
@@PeterLindgren1 DO IT
Followed your channel in few months, and I ended with buying sony a7iii, sony 85mm f1.8 and tamron 28-75. My camera before was sony a6000 with sigma 30mm f1.4
I am thinking of getting same combo a7iii + tammy 28-75mm + sony 85mm f1.8. How you find the new gear against a6000.
Great set right there! Once Tammy releases their wider zoom, I think you will have a completely collection!
Most lenses work well in standard situations. Most of the time you get to the differences in extreme situations: extremely low light, extremely bright light, stray light, sunlight, fluorescent light, extreme high or low contrast, fast-moving subjects. Then you might run into trouble focusing, experience flaring, ghosting, etc. The next thing you want to know is how it contributes to your workflow. You want something that gets to the desired result in a minimum amount of time. So sometimes an extra button or switch does the trick. You also might want to use the lens that works similar to the thing you are shooting most of the time with. You want to do it always the same way and not to think about where the button on this lens is compared to your other lenses.
samyang is absolutely best as it price point - works perfect - it's a portrait lens. period
So true, I also use 45 mm f1.8 for portaits, it’s and interesting focal lenght. But 85 mm rocks!
www.digicameratips.com/top-10-rokinon-lenses-for-the-sony-fe-mount-in-2021/
Model has beautiful eyes, makes you wanna acquire only 85mm.
lol thank you
Great stuff Jason,
Very impressive Rokinon.... Really make the Sony GM look very overpriced.
05:33 - The Sony GM has worse Chromatic Abberation on the edges of Kitty's jumper, the jacket sleeve ZIPPER & in the bokeh outlining on the right??? :O
The slightly warmer cast of the Rokinon also appears to render colours a bit nicer for portraits than the GM ?
Can the 85mm F1.8 withstand the rain? I hear the Rokinon has weather sealing and better build quality. How good is the 85mm F1.8 build quality?
I would like to know the answer to this
Used 85/1.8 under the rain, had no problems at all. Also, I own both lenses and I would not say Samyang looks any better in terms of build quality (it's good for both lenses).
@@Sirius-wu3mj Would you recommend one lens over the other? Lets say video performance is not a factor
@@ronkumar1093 it's a very difficult choice. I have both lenses and have no plans to sell either of them. If you don't need precise autofocus in AF-C mode, then Samyang is a good choice otherwise I would pick Sony
Exactly what I needed to know! Thanks for the honest review! I do weddings and personal branding and need a new primary lens. I think we’ll be rocking the 85 1.8 for the next good while. I’ve played with it for a week and it is soo nice!
How do you like it ?
Great review, thanks! Made me keep my reliable Sony 85mm f1.8 . I also tested 1.4 vs 1.8 and saw that "bokeh" looks very similar. ISO performance is not an issue with Sony, so my main focus is how round bokeh is when you stop down the lens (I hate hexagon bokeh!). And you need to stop it down if you shoot more than one person to make both persons faces in focus. Also focus reliability is top priority - no matter that your picture bokeh will be nicer, if your subject face will be completely out of focus :D
was thinking to sell my 85/1.8 and get samyang, but after your video - I will think no more :D
If your a workout buff, there is always the sigma 85 1.4, which has incredible image quality, and sits in the middle if those two price points.
It’s so pleasing to watch, love your personality
From my experiences from Nikon, Canon and Sony, 85 f/1.4 lenses are always slower. I think it's the nature of the build of the lens. But, it's sharper at f/1.8 vs the native f/1.8 lenses.
That's the original Samyang 85mm f1.4...They are now on the MkII version which is apparently much better for AF accuracy and speed...So It would great to see you review this too.
I will stick with my 85 f1.8. and I have an old Sigma 85 that I have always loved, that I adapt if I want f1.4..... but so far since getting the Sony 85 I haven't touched the old lens. I just love the size and weight of the the Sony 85 f1.8,,,, it's perfect for my A7r lll. and I also love my 55 f1.8 ,,,,, I guess I'm tired of heavy glass. now I wish Sony would put out a 35 f1.8 that competes with the image quality of the 55 and 85 f1.8 lenses. and also small and light. but for now I'm using my 28 f2
Would these lens fit a sony a5000 or A6000?
why didn't you include the Batis in the test since its already in your hands? it would have been nice to see the difference especially compared to the 1.8
Batis is the same as Sony only has some weather sealing and some features like this distance something.
I already own the 85mm lens 1.8 , the g master is just too damn expensive!
Me too....
Gmater is for a begginer on a budget
Batis > Every other lens lineup
I‘m so happy with my 25, 40 and 85 Batis lenses!
#TEAMBATIS
I love my Batis 25mm, and I'd really like to have the 40mm, too!
I guess you did not keep the same focus drive speed in both cameras. The one with Sony lenses must be on Medium, or Slow focus drive speed. If it was that slow, it would not give that smooth and precise transition. It would hunt a bit. Can you check again?
Really tempted by this lens, I just really hate focus by wire designs. Wish the Sigma Art wasn't so huge or expensive.
This video seals it for me. If you don't need video, there is almost no reason to get the Sony's over the Samyang (Rokinon). Samyang had faster autofocus than the GM, less rounded bokeh and slightly less sharpness at 1.4. The differences become less as you go to 1.8 and beyond. For me, that doesn't justify the massive price difference. The only thing the Sony 1.8 has on the Samyang is the autofocus, but less difference in still photos. That's a worthy sacrifice for that extra stop of light IMO.
crazy how far rokinon has come, I remember when it was an unknown camera company that a few of us appreciated
I used their Cine lenses a long time ago, they were amazing esp for the price!
Classic #1 choice for astro-landscape photographers! :)
Rokinon did an firmware update in 2020 on the FE 85mm f/1.4, which was an upgrade in their focus performance.
I definitely prefer the colors and the look of the Rokinon better. If I was in search of an 85, this would prob b my choice. Thanks for the review.
no problem!
I thought this was Kitty's movie so I clicked it. But I do sometimes watch some of your videos Jason!
But holy crap, that was some confident walking by Kitty...
Haha appreciate it thank you! Ive been practicing my strut
after 3-4 years of using Samyang 85 1.4, as long as the object doesn't move too fast, it could provide good enough image quality and focus performance. And it is comfortable for low light situation. At its price, a big bang for money comparing to GM or GM II. Of course, sometime you may wonder if the 85 1.8 could focus a little bit faster and light your camera bag too.
Really appreciate this review! Have you considered doing an update review with the newest 4th gen autofocus firmware for the Rokinon/Samyang 85mm?
I'm considering getting a FF lens for my sony a6400 (so i can have lenses for a future FF camera, and also why not). the funny thing is, when you start to have a few regular goto lenses, as i do now, and think about the future, while you are also deciding what filter set up to get (as I am now) things like the filter size matter....somewhat. At the moment my largest lens filter size is 67mm on my Rokinon 12mm wide. that Rokinon 85 has a 72mm filter thread whereas that sony 85 has 67mm filter thread. I Can Not decide if I should go ahead and "Filter up" to a master 72mm (or even 77) filter set up with various step up rings, or use 67mm filter set up as my main set up for now. I'm going to order filters today or tomorrow, and I'm not getting cheap ones so it's one of those photography gear puzzles. I have the Sigma 30mm and most likely will get the 56mm (maybe), as a side note and I love Sigma's lenses so far. How bout that Sirui 50mm 1.8 1.33x Anamorphic lens as another side not though!! (also 67mm thread..HA!)
I wish you had included the Batis 85 in the comparisons.
Curious to see that little difference between Zeiss Batis and Sony 85. It's essentially the same exact lens design. You should make a video comparison.
Great review, could you do one on Samyang AF 45mm f/1.8 FE, I'm really curious about this lens, since it's really compact and it looks very promising.
Carlos Rosa its a great lens man. Light, portable, sharp, great depth of field. Comparable to the 55 zeiss but way cheaper
In the UK the Rokinon f1.4 and the Sony f1.8 are both £599. At the same price point is it basically then a comparison of a bigger aperture and some nice colouring vs weight savings and autofocus accuracy?
I'm definitely looking at either the Rokinon or Samyang 1.4
The 1.8 focuses faster because it has less glass and the difference in terms of focus between 1.4 and 1.8 is surprisingly a lot, imho :)
Is there any chance, Jason that you could make a comparison between this awesome Sony 85mm f1.8 (on a a7xxx) vs Sigma 56mm f1.4 (mounted on a a65/64) & why not the same Sony 85mm G on the a65/64. All of this in the same way as this very video, bokeh-ball, focus speed and all that.
I'm in the edge of replacing my Sigma 56mm with the Sony 85mm but I need you, exactly you to do this comparison, pretty please 🙏🏼
Gaston.......where did you bought your 8 4 mm 1.4 i always wanna get one....Sony the best 85mm 1.4 GM Slow wy,,,,need bigger motor maybe the glass .........Glass glass glass SIZE size.
Great stuff, brother !
Samyang/Rokinon/Walimex is the best bang for buck and has been for many many years. Thank you Samyang. You've made me a lot of money via professional shoots.
Great review! Jason I already own the Batis 85mm for my A7iii and love it, but sometimes do wish I had the creamy bokeh of an f/1.4. Glad that you see the difference between the Batis and the Sony f/1.8, I do too. Also Batis has stabilization so it works better on my old a6000.
Like the most sympathic lens comparisons ever. Love your style, your vibe, your realism and your geeking out on the Zeiss ... ;-) Rock on! :-)
Hi jason very short question. Which lens do you recommend for portrait video for SONY A7II?
Thanks in advance 😊
With the Sony f1.8 being both sharp and affordable, Samyang tried to fill a space that wasn't really there. The thing about Samyang lenses (and any other non-Sony E-lens) is that camera firmware updates can really mess things up. I really like my Samyang 50/1.4, but it's totally unreliable since the A9 v5 update. I wrote the company, and they're working on a fix, meanwhile the lens is just sitting on my desk...
Kind of disappointing you didn't add the Zeiss to the comparison here as price wise it falls in the middle at $1000.
Might be a stupid question, but what is that on the hotshoe?
rode wireless go.
wireless lav mic system, really good, cheap, and currently pretty popular.
I'm still torn between the Samyand 1.4, the rokinon 1.4, or the sony 1.8.... I shoot a good mix of video and portraits. Any suggestions?
Great comparison! What do you think about wide angle lenses for Sony a7 III like Nikon and Sigma have 10-20mm?
Would you recommend this over the Nikon 85mm 1.8G?
Do you update the firmware in the rokinon for vetter video autofocus?
Will you review the Mieke 85mm f/1.8 auto focus lens coming out soon? its a $200 lens
Kitty is a lil magenta in the face on the sony GM
Is Samyang 85mm1.4 going to work with auto distortion correction on Sony cameras?
Does Sony share the AF interface info with Samyang, like they do with Sigma and Tamron?
I am a videographer abd I am having a7iii. So which should I get samyung 85mm f1.4 or sony 85 mm f1 8.. I want good focus tracking.. Thank you..
Watch the video
Hey!! I love your videos. Thank you for making them. They are honestly so helpful. I was wondering what lens you’re filming with in this video? I hope you don’t mind me asking. 😊
Jason, could you do a video about changing lenses? The info, tips, do's & dont's, etc?? It would be an immense help personally since i use a 6400. Hehe. Thanks and more power!
What's sort of cream is that on the top of your lip ?
Hey jason, for overall opinion, do you think if it's worth it to switch from the FE 85 f1.8 to this Samyang f1.4?
i think if you shoot potrait, sharpness is very important. it is not worth it to upgrade
@@matthewsimcheeking4532 why? The rokinon is sharp too
fav review channel!
Hey man! How are you? One thing I want to know about the Samyang: How's the manual focus ring? Is it long to pull focus? Because I have a Sigma 30mm which is basically impossible to use manual focus, because it is tooooooo long! Thank you
I've heard that it is one of the better focus by wire rings. Very smooth and damped well. Heard no bad things about it, but that's just my experience. I'm thinking of buying it, but have yet to pull the trigger.
What are your thoughts on the Rokinon 35 1.4? Have you got your hands on it yet? I'm not really sold on the 28 f2.0 and am pretty close to shopping for a 35, let me know your thoughts Jason!
I haven't but I hear good things about it. Rokinon has made some great strides as new lenses are being released!
I'm so confused between Samyang 85 1.4 and Sony 85 1.8. for a7iii
Is the difference between the two massive?
I prefer going with native sony glass but then f1.4... at this price is just unbeatable...
Can you suggest the best option? Please
nice one Jason... Samyang are doing pretty good right now , waiting to get there 45mm
Didn't hear great things about the 50 when it first came out but started to hear it was improving since the 35mm came out! Happy they are supplying budget primes to the Sony Alpha Universe!
now both rokkinon 85mm 1.4 and sony 85mm 1.8 has similar price. which one you suggest ?
You should compare the Sony 90mm f2.8 G OSS. It’s sheer sharpness is amazing for portraits
Hey man as always great video, I just have one thing to ask hows the Sigma art 85 1.4 if compared to Sony GM 85 1.4
Good video. Two of my fav RUclipsrs working together, YAY!
Can you make an updated video on the tamron 28-75 2.8?
What would you like to see?
Jason Vong since it’s release and firmware update (s) how has it really improved, ie focusing, sharpness etc. should a novice on a budget buy or wait, save and buy...?
Lemme see what I can do. I'm waiting on the 17-28 (whenever thats available)! I will see if I can pick up the 2875 again
Jason Vong ok cool! It’s been about 8 months since you or any one else have re-reviewed it.
P. S. Happy you didn’t stay in Japan. Lol
Thank you for the time and energy you put in sharing and educating us!
P. S. S. Miss you and that one camera guy.
The only thing better than the Tamron 28-75 is the Tamron 28-75.
Both f1.4 lenses are at their sharpest at f/4. And at that particular f-stop, there is noticeably less sharpness with the Samyang in the corners, and a tiny bit less sharpness in the middle.
Surprisingly however, with the Sony f/1.8, it is a little bit sharper in the middle and slightly sharper in the corners, than the Sony f/1.4 at f/4. It is however, marginally less light-sensitive overall, with a slightly lower t-stop rating (ref: dxomark), of around 1/5 of an f-stop. T=1.8 vs T=1.5 - This means that for any given combination of shutter speed and aperture, the superior f/1.4 will give you a lower ISO. eg 100 vs 120.
This small difference is barely noticeable though, and given that the Sony f/1.8 is a slightly sharper lens, then unless you are a bokeh obsessive, the Sony f/1.8 is probably not only a more practical lens than the Sony f/1.4, but it's also US$1,100 cheaper.
I'm keeping my Sony f/1.4 however, because it has an external aperture ring which I really like to use, and it's the only lens that gets truly circular bokeh balls at f/1.4 - This is something of course, that most lay people would say: "so what".
Good stuff. Hey are you still doing the picture profile test for weddings or top looks for weddings that you hinted at a whole ago?
I thought nobody would remember that! Maybe! My wedding content didn't do so well last time so I stopped. I might have to come in at it with a different approach!
@@JasonVong Hahaha. I remembered! I understand.
Jason do u ever consider resale value when recommending?
GM or an art will fetch more once it’s time to part ways than a rokinon.
I disagree. The market will decide, not the brand name.
Good idea! I definitely do consider the value if I were to resell the lens in the future. Sony resale values were super low in the beginning but they are climbing their way up now that there are more alpha cameras in peoples hands. You used to be able to net a GM for 1200!
Jason Vong I scored my 85 gm net for $900! The seller sold the camera and a a7ii. Sold the camera kept the lens.
I want want to know which one should a buy for my a7iii i am beginner.
What about rokinon version 1 can you recommend it.. I don't have adapter for update..
Did you update the firmware to v3 for the Rokinon? I updated mine and the auto focus is noisy and definitely not quiet like your video. I wonder if something is wrong.
Damn dock is so hard to get
I thought Sony came with image stabilization within the camera so it’s not necessary to have?
You can see the Rokinon using step autofocus while the Sony uses a smooth autofocus. I much prefer smooth over step.
Hey! Do those lenses have Focus By Wire? I bought the Tamron 28-75mm few months ago and i'm really struggling with FBW when i shoot on manual focus. Now i'm looking for a prime lens without Focus By Wire or at least with an indicator on it.
TaSoS all Sony lenses are focus by wire, unless you get a designated manual focus lens like a vintage lens, meike lens, Samyang’s manual focus lenses, etc
@@bballer151331 Hey thanks for response! I tried recently the Sigma 50mm 1.4 art and it didnt seem to have focus by wire. It is also really helpful that its focus ring has a start and finish point. Do you know if Zeiss Batis 85mm has FBW? Thank you!
@@sirggkas Yes Zeiss too. Sigma Art is different because the lenses were designed for DSLR and got readapted for mirrorless, hence the focusing is much better manually
I don’t know about Rokinon but some of my sigmas outperform my Sony’s. The Sony 84mm 1.4 is just a slow lens. Great video Jason
Wow, I love the contrast on the Samyang! I used to stay away from Rokinon/Samyang because of bad c/a but these tests look great!! I actually prefer the bokeh, too!
Was it from the Cine Lenses? Or the ones designed for sony?
@@JasonVong The photography ones from years back. These Sony ones look fantastic! On my next gig I may rent one!
Where is the sony lens made? I have the kit lens and a7ii are made in Thailand. Amazon didn't say where they were made.
Is autofocus sound still there .. like 50mm Samyang
its there but its soft
Jason Vong thanks for reply ! Really enjoy your work
Which one is better for video. Sony 1.8 or the Batis?
Hey Jason what is your go to lens for shooting cinematic video?
Lately it's been the 25 / 85
Thank you very much! i've been waiting for your review on this lens ^_^
gotchu guys
Excellent review! Especially having Kitty!! She rocks!
It was between the rokinon and the 85mm1.8. Went for a used 85mm 1.8 for 400 bucks because I really didn't need that 1.4. I prefer the faster af, the much much lighter body cuz I'm carrying it around all day, af mf button and the useful focus hold button. I hate heavy lenses on the Sony body without the battery grip which adds even more weight to balance it out
Will this lens work on the new Sony a6100 I’m fucking new just want a good lens to photograph my dogs with a nice blurred background
The Sony 85mm 1.8 is a beast of a lens for the price. When I had my Sony, that was one of the first lenses I picked up. Great comparison Jason, shout out to Kitty for cameo! Also embrace the gas, there’s no way to stop it lol
You won't believe what I bought yesterday.... smh
Jason Vong the zeiss 85mm lens?
worse
Jason Vong EOS RP?
Great video Jason (+ Kitty). Love that acne/pimple sticker (I use it a lot too!) hahaha
Hi Jason, great video and collaboration with Kitty, that I am following as well 😊. I am just wondering how those "budget" lenses work with a a7riii. Nothing against the a7iii, but the pixels are smaller on the R, does it mater? I am starting my Batis collection as well but I would be happy to save some money sometimes 🤭 thanks a lot and keep the good content.
what is that on your lip Jason?