Sigma 85mm f1.4 for Sony E Mount - vs GM vs Rokinon vs Zeiss vs Sony
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2020
- What's the best 85mm prime for Sony?
Sigma 85mm f/1.4 - bhpho.to/33BGeD9
Sony G Master 85mm f/1.4 - bhpho.to/2I4WeVR
Rokinon (Samyang) 85mm f/1.4 - bhpho.to/3nre8SI
Zeiss 85mm f/1.8 - bhpho.to/3lgWe3p
Sony 85mm f/1.8 - bhpho.to/2HWEgok 
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I have the Zeiss 85 and 25. They are both very light. So sharp.
If you like the flare during video, it saves you time from adding it in post. Its a cinematic feature that many videographers like. Its all subjective, there is no good or bad when it comes to lens. It really comes down to how you use it and what you use it for. Every brand has its users.
The eye auto focus on the Sigma is actually very quick and very consistent.
Pretty sure he's a Sony fanboy.
Thanks for the great review - I currently own the Rokinon 85 1.4 but I'm not impressed by it's sharpness at f1.4 - if an aperture of f1.4 is important for me - would you recommend purchasing the Sigma ?
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This is my 10th or so video on 85’s on my search for a lens for one of my Sony’s and the first helpful one. Thanks for the very detailed review. Super helpful. 🤜🏼🤛🏼😉
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I personally got the 85mm 1.8 because it's the smallest/lightest, I also have the sony 28mm and zeiss 55mm all smallest in lineup. Big heavy lenses like G Master, Sigma, Rokinon defeats the whole purpose of me switching from Canon to Sony mirrorless 6 years ago. When all these lenses perform within 90% of each other, really no point spending 2x-3x extra money and ending up with bigger heavier lenses.
thx
The Sony 85 1.8 was the first lens I got when I moved to Sony. It's the best lens for the value - performance is great, its light, it has the AF hold button, it is marketed as weather-resistant (if that matters), its got nice compression and bokeh. It still have it. I want to upgrade to the Sigma, but having a difficult time justifying the $$$.
totally agree!
Like me ,,, first
Did you end up getting the Sigma in the end? I am torn if to sell my Sony 1.8 for the Sigma
@@darrenhaken what did you end up getting? I’m on the same boat. The Sony lenses have better AF and cheaper. The Sigma is better build quality.
@@yanielacosta9079 I ended up with the Sigma but I didn't think the image quality was vastly superior to the Sony 85mm 1.8. AF performance was similar - benchmarked with a moving toddler. I definitely think the build quality is higher and there's something I prefer about the bokeh under certain conditions.
I'm going to say it's a 10-15% better lens..
i learned that the Sony 85 1.8 is dope as great for video too... especially on all the broll videos
nice review! however, i would have placed the zeiss 3rd because on stabe and full weather sealing, that rokinon and sony1.8 don t have.
Fantastic review. Concise script and excellent side by side shots.
Like, just because of the sensible considerations, thoughts and way of reviewing. Never change.
That is one of the best reviews I’ve seen, thank you
Has Adobe or specifically in Lightroom updated the lens vignetting support for RAW files?
What about the Image Stabilization that Zeiss offers?
Fantastic review, and it was tremendously helpful for what I needed to help me determine the best lens for me. Well done, and thank you.
Thanks so much for this super thorough comparison! That was incredibly helpful. I came away thinking that the GM really is the nicest of them all, while the Sony 1.8 is just really solid and I value the compact size. Also I happen to know from personal experience that it survives a drop onto a rock... reliabilty can be super important and it’s great to have a lens you can trust to hold up.
but all of the lenses don't have image stabilization? I have the sony 50mm F1.8 OSS for my crop sensor (A6000) and was looking to replace it with some of these lenses for my fullframe sony A7
Great review, very thorough! Thanks! I think I’ll go with the Sony 1.8... I don’t do many portraits so I don’t need a super specialized lens, and I would rather save some $$ but have anyway a great overall lens.
I really wish, you would do a similar comparision with RF Samyang 85, RF 85 2.0, and why not an adapted Sigma
Great test for helping out with the proper choice vs budget 👍 Thank you for your knowledge and time!
Do you know if Rokinon had the firmware updated?
Great comparsion especially close range of focus !!! thx for that :)
Superb review! I like how you keep it simple and straight to the point! Please make another RF 85 version of this, RF 85 f2, RF 85 f1.2, RF 28-70 f2, and possibly sigma version of RF f1.4
Love your reviews man
Best 85 for Sony review on internet. Thanks for your work on this.
Sigma for the win ! Now we just need some new 35 1.4 and 1.2 , 50 1.4 , 105 1.4 and 135 1.8 with half of weight and size, sharper and with better af than the old lenses :D
Wheww if they can make my 105 lighter. I would jump on that
You didn’t say which aperture the Sigma was sharpest at...?
Thank you, this video was what I needed! 😁
Really appreciate the analysis you did. I was looking for such a comparison and I found yours.
Soon, I’ll buy a Sony A7C with Samyang 35mm F2.8, but now I know that I’ll pair that with Sony 85mm F1.8 - cause sometimes 35mm just isn’t enough to capture the scene - and I am happy to know I’ll have a nice starter kit.
Hope you’ll publish more videos like this one. Thanks!
Samyang just came out with a 35 mm 1.8! They also have a 18 mm 2.8, 45 and 75 mm 1.8. All are less than $450 so I would look into those. Enjoy your new Sony A7c. I'm thinking A73 or Fuji xt4 soon. Take care! I want to shoot some sports so the A7C is too small for big zooms.
well covered. I expected to favor the Zeiss, but in the end I think I'll go with the Sony. (or just stick with my Nikon gear)
Hii, is it worthy to buy used 85mm 1.4 DG HSM lens for 555$ usd? Please reply
Really good comparison, thanks!
If you could test real light transmission (T-Stop) of those lens that would've been amazing.
Man I was just looking for this !
Thanks, that was nice and thorough.
And with all the right disclaimers, that preferences are subjective...
Samyang(Rokinon) is by far the best bang for buck option. No competition really, especially for photos.
It sure seems like it, I will say, I quite disliked the images coming out of it compared to some of my other (nicer) glass.
@@fireboltacic99 that's okay, it's up to personal preference pretty much. For example I absolutely love the warm colors of Samyangs, half of my glass is from Samyang ;)
I sent the Samyang back after a day, hardly got any shots in focus at a wedding I done. I had the bigger sigma as back up as I only got the Samyang on the morning of the wedding. Just ordered this new Sigma as it’s the weight I’m loving. Art lenses are all amazing.
Art 85mm DN and Batis 85mm have best micro contrast but Batis have olso unique colour rendering, you don't have to like it but facts are facts...
Exactly the video I was looking for. Great Job man!
Subscribed. Great review. Shame that you didn't compare the older sigma.
great honest review, now i know which lens im going to buy, thanks for the review
Glad I could help
I sold my Gm for the sigma. It’s way better n my opinion and lighter.
Why?
focus is amazing, sharpness is the best, price is cheaper, and wight is lighter.
The only channel that picks the GM over sigma
Seriously. The Sigma destroys it. Even Manny Ortiz, who sleeps with the Sony 1.4 under his pillow, admits the Sigma is much better.
@@michaelbell75 I agree with Hyun. Have shot all of these except the Sony f/1.8. The GM has the most beautiful rendering. If the slower AF and weak corners are not an issue it is the best IMHO. For still portraits the slower autofocus and soft corners are not an issue for me.
However I often photograph moving children so its a little agonizing but the faster AF of the Sigma matters to me. I am settling on the Sigma until GM v2.
I also own the Zeiss and the Samyang. The Samyang eye AF is less reliable IMHO and it has a slightly warm tint so I will sell it soon. If not for the other f/1.4 options I would keep it.
Certainly for the money it is wonderful.
The Zeiss was the first fast 85mm for this system and I was probably one of the first to buy it! I am tempted to use it when I don’t need f/1.4 because it is superb all round and does not have the severe distortion of the Sigma.
Notice in the video that when close focusing and background far away then all the lenses have amazing bokeh. It is where there are transitions or background not so far away that bokeh quality matter.
I would pick the Sony over the sigma if the prices were the same. I generally prefer the Sony glass look over the Sigma Dg Dn look. It’s mostly lens coatings I suspect, but here it’s also the aperture blades as well. I do t own either but I’m Al thousands of photos I’ve looked over for both I prefer the look of the Sony, it seems to offer smoother and more buttery/dreamy photos, while the Sigma exemplifies the Dg Dn lens line up look of being clinically sterile, flat and sharp.
@@GunslingerMediaCo doesn't even focus. LOL, go ahead, pay more for poor performance.
@@CO8848_2 you don’t read well, I said if same price. Which they are now used.
Should do some Canon lenses like RF or EF adapted to RF 👍🏻
Very good comparison. Samyang was my favourite to choose for a long time but last time it lost in My eyes. And even 1.4 i dont if is helpibg it ... Keep the good job :)
rokinon for the budgetary win
You failed to mention that the Zeiss has OSS, which is great for non-IBIS APS-Cs
Thank you, Great review!
I'm so confused between Samyang 85 1.4 and Sony 85 1.8. for a7iii
Is the difference between the two massive?
I prefer going with native sony glass but then f1.4... at this price is just unbeatable...
Can you suggest the best option? Please
Sony all the way...elce save some more & go for sigma 85mm f1.4
@@8080408729a thank you 😇😇😇
@@8080408729a Do you think the Sigma is worth the extra money over the Sony 85mm 1.8? Twice the price roughly for me.
@@darrenhaken It does. Sigma will stay in your collection til it is not damaged.
What a great review man. Thanks. It seem to me that you can't go wrong with any of these lenses.
Great video. Soooooo informative. Could you do a video with Sony 50mm 1.8, Zeiss 55mm 1.8, Zeiss 50mm 1.4, Sigma 50 1.4. And could you add video auto focus comparisons to it. Thank you 🙏
All I can say is I own the 55mm 1.8 and it’s a great lens. Amazing quality. I would go with the sigma second, then Sony 1.8 then the other zeiss I cannot speak of. I believe it’s a planar and I own the 50mm 1.4 planar for Nikon (manual lens) and it’s a beautiful lens (given they use the same lens formula) it’s got a lot of limitations wide open (is tack sharp and little CA at a certain distances and at other distances it’s the worst looking lens that just looks not good, also swirly bokeh at times which is awesome looking) but stopped down it’s a crazy good lens with a lot of character, sharpness and resolution. The 55mm is another beautiful lens with great micro contrast and really good AF. It’s not insanely sharp at 1.8 but it’s still sharp. I don’t notice any CA in that lens. I also know the sigma is a great lens as pretty much all their lenses are crushing the photography market right now. From what I can tell is the Sony 50 is a really good budget option and is basically a cheaper 55mm but not quite as good but still a good lens. You can’t really go wrong with either of those (I’m not sure on the zeiss 1.4 AF though) if it’s the same planar formula then it’s a great lens optically except it’s limited at 1.4.
@@mrwashur1991 thank you very much I appreciate the response. It gives a lot of insight 🙏
Excellent review. Thank you.
Sammy in the corners ? ! so sharp
Well, even in 2023-2024 this clip can be relevant! :)) I had flirted quite some times with the 85mm focal range in the past years but ended up not buying a lens because in the end it was not my primary range I was shooting in. But I had an irrefutable offer during the black friday week for the 1.8 Sony which I acquired. I must say the last years while not having still that lens, gave me plenty of opportunities to make up my mind of the pros and cons of all the competitor lenses. And indeed, I must agree that like in this video the Sony 1.8 can be considered the best "bargain" if you take the ratio price/pictures quality.
Thank you for the great video!
Para mim qualquer uma serve, mas aqui no Brasil fica difícil para quem quer uma lente dessas de tão caro que são. Na gringa você quer uma lente você vai lá e compra, aqui no meu país você tem que economizar durante meses, até mesmo anos para ter uma dessas ai hahaha
Great comparison review. I do however think the Zeiss deserves a bit more credit, it’s subtle but I can tell it has that Zeiss pop. Also moreover, the optical stabilization is really an underrated feature. Helps with low light shutter speed and it’s really useful for handheld video. I own the Sony 85mm F1.8 but wish I saved up for the Zeiss. I think it’s worth the price difference.
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Couldnt agree more! Got the zeiss Batis 85mm 3 years ago, and got the best image with it! I can totally back that! This Pop straight out of the cam, only Zeiss has it. This is the reason why i’m keeping it, and wont move for the GM for those 3 specific prime: zeiss Sony 35mm 1.4, zeiss 50mm 1.4 and this one. I dont give a flying f*ck about the aperture ring and the perfect round ball in the bokeh. Yes I Got the GM for the 135, the 14 and the zoom as well, but for those 3 prime, i’ll keep them forever for this specific reason, that feel can’t be found on another brand!
So true. I own Sigma and Zeiss. I'm very pleased with the Zeiss pop. I don't mind it less sharp.
solid review!
Just waiting for the RF Sigma 85m f 1.4 lens
Hopefully it's coming soon
We need all Sigma old lenses replaced with new versions for mirrorless like this one. Also those Tamrons 2.8 zooms would be AWSOME for mirrirless Canon and Nikon. Over 50% for the reason I'm buying Sony this black friday is those lenses.
11:58 That's what she said.
Always great video. I got the Sony 85 1.8 for half the price.
awesome! how if I may ask?
@@xXKINGZ25Xx Sorry, meant half the price compared to the 1.8 Zeiss.
The new Canon 85 f1.2 L is really expensive and huge and heavy, but how does it compare to the GM ?
It is really strange how you can get such different results from other reviewers... You're the first person in these lens shootouts I've watched that rates the GMaster over the Sigma...
You really can't go wrong with either one, but the GM definitely has less distortion and better bokeh. Most may not think that's worth the price difference.
Great review. Thanks
The best review on the internet.
Great review!
Great upload. Tfs.
Video autofocus?
Nice review... Keep it up...!
Perfect review. I like your channel...
Awesome video!!!
My next lens 👀
Good video as always, will you make a video about the sony a7C? thanks!
Thanks, I'll get my hands on one when it starts shipping in a few weeks.
Nothing special in that price !
Thx
Almost all modern lenses are sharp enough. One has to look at more subtle characteristics that a superficial test won’t reveal- the quality of the glass and how it reproduces colors, the aberrations, both spherical and lateral, the contrast and micro contrast, the build quality and long term performance against use and the elements.
Which 85mm would you recommend?
@@TwerpXNation The Sigma, and its not even close.
Very nice video, thank you :)
Which one was best in video AF with eye tracking and speed? sony 1.8?
I think so
I'm a dreaming to be a photographer 😊😊😊😊
for me, zeiss wins with the light build, ibis and flattering skin tones
Good job Bro. 👏👍
everything else?where is tokina 85?
Yup...the pincushion distortion is a huge dealbreaker for me. You're one of the few YT reviewers that chooses the GM over the Sigma. One this you skipped was the chromatic aberration. Its pretty bad in the GM. I shoot video mostly and that distortion is not going to work because Resolve has no legs profile for the Sigma.
I think you got a bad unit of the Rokinon. The images you posted here are really bad compared with what I get from that lens.
Superb review, important topic, well thought out. I love how concise and how you highlight the important issues rapidly. Thank you.
FYI, I own the Batis b/c it was the first and only 85mm for quite a while. I am keeping it for studio work where background blur at f/1.4 is rarely desired. I like the colors and pop. Beautiful images. Fast autofocus. Light weight. Little distortion.
I also bought the Samyang months ago for that creamy f/1.4 outdoors. Gorgeous. I do find though that it has a slight yellow tint (easy to correct) and like you I find the autofocus not always as reliable.
Now I have also the new Sigma which will replace the Samyang for my outdoors work. No yellow tint and more reliable autofocus. Also the sharpness is just a beautiful rendering. The GM is tempting though for that slightly creamier blur. GM gets discounted to $1600 periodically.
Why keep the Batis? Why not use the Sigma in studio as well? We shall see. The distortion correction might be an issue since in studio I tether to Capture One, then edit in Photoshop. How to correct the distortion?
Thanks, unfortunately I'm not all that familiar with Capture One but in Lightroom or Camera Raw, simple -10 or -11 correction seems to get rid of it.
@@HyunRalphJeong Nice apps.
i use it all the time .and i can say its the best 85mm i ever owned ...
No Viltrox 85mm in the comparison?
Did you even watch the beginning video? lol
If you are smart, you buy a lightly used lens vs new. When doing your reviews....you should also rank them by the current used average price....For example....on the used market the G master and the Sigma 85 are about the same price right now.
It depends, where...
@@STAMAS1991 Fredmiranda Buy Sell Forum.
The Rokinon 85mm is excellent for me.
Most wanted one
If you arent going to shell out and go all out for the GM, I would only go for the FE1.8 sony, its an absolute beast of a lens..
Great review! However I made my own tests and can definitively say (also confirmed by other reviewers) that a "normal copy" of the Sony 85mm 1.4 GM is less sharp in the middle of the frame, but in the corners sharper than the Sigma. If you came to a different conclusion something might have gone wrong with one of your tests.
Hi, isn’t that what I said in the video?
@@HyunRalphJeong 9:34
@@stefan_becker I didn’t say it was better or worse than the Sigma but I think it was better than the “bad corners of the Sigma.
Must have been a (seldom) bad copy of DN Sigma. Strange this film does mot even mention that possibility (Related infos of that kind: @ Roger from Lensrental. Serious comparisons : Elswhere).
@11:58 oh yeahhh
very good!
nice comparison!
Seems like most reviews skip right over video af performance. I wish it was compared a bit more but otherwise a fantastic review.
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The sony 1.8 is already good i dont think the performance is not worth 500
i was eyeing for the sigma 85art but the distortion turns me off. ill just stick with my sony 85mm 1.8. hopefully they'll release a 24mm f2/1.8 thats not a gmaster.
11:58 😉
Bring back bokeh hexigons. Am I the only one who likes these?