When I began my photography education I took a class that was taught by a prominent newspaper photographer. He stated that the 85mm lens was like permanently attached to his camera for his work. He used the 85 for 90 percent of his photos. He stated the 85 was more close to his natural eye. This man produced amazing photos as a news photographer. The 85 has been my #1 lens ever since.
@@stantheman3674 Just based on the crop factor. 50mm would be the equivalent of about 75mm to 80mm on most crop sensors, which gets you close to the focal length Jason is talking about. An 85mm lens on crop sensor would be 135mm or beyond. Granted, all that matters is the effect you're going for.
@@stantheman3674 85mm on crop sensor is 135mm. That's a telephoto. E.g for human subject, You gotta backaway couple meters away from your subject to get full body shot. Just try it yourself, it's not really a nice feeling
@@lyspec No it's not, I have a really sharp 105mm I've used for landscapes and architectural regularly for the flat image. You're just a talentless hack who can't think for yourself.
My 2 favorite primes to walk around with are the 35mm and the 85mm (or 90mm Macro if it's spring). If the 35mm is too wide 85 is perfect, and if the 85mm is too tele - the 35mm is perfect. I used to use a 50mm but I realized that I was either too close or too far away. In the end - I looked at my metadata in Lightroom (based on my 24-240mm) and found that a lot of my shots were around 35 or 85 rather than 50. I think the key to falling in love with the 85mm and not feel super constrained is to also carry a wide (whatever your FL of choice is there).
@@Milan-cf1xe Yes, I own 2 full frame cameras (and also 2 crop sensor ones). I have 4 zooms and 6 primes for the full frame system. Why do you need to know all my lenses? Not going to take the effort to list it all out. What are you trying to work out?
@@MeAMuse I am Interested because you said that your fav setup is 35 and 85. So i like it too an i am interested which 35 and 85 you have since for Sony E Mount there are so many lenses especially at this focal lengths
@@Milan-cf1xe In that range I have a Sony Zeiss 35mm F2.8, a Sony 35mm F1.8, the Sony 85mm F1.8 and the Sony 90mm Macro. Mostly I take the F1.8s but depends what I am up to.
I love my 70-200, but the sony 85mm 1.8 is such a compact little gem, I may need to pick one up at some point. It's all well and good doing street photography with a 70-200, but when people think you're aiming an RPG at their face it's hard to stay inconspicuous.
I have started my career as a wedding photographer and i bought sony a7m3 with kit lens 28-70 f3.5-5.6 and i am planning to buy a new lens because i have some shoots so i am bit confused which lens to purchase price lens 35mm f1.8 or 85mm f1.8 or should I buy tamron 70-180 f2.8 ?
I'm a huge fan of using longer focal lengths. I find super wide in my case to be a little lack-luster. I really like getting in tight and focusing on my subject.
For beginners don't be discouraged. If you get an APS-C dslr/mirrorless camera, most of the time you get an 18-55 kit lets, and you can multiply that to 1.5 So you basically get 27-82mm which is close enough to 85mm FOV You can also set it to 35mm on the lens and multiply by 1.5 you get a pretty close to 50mm FOV. And if you want a 35mm FOV equivalent set it around 24mm on your lens.
@@nadrenders4149 It's not always that obvious, but focal lengths in photography world are stated with regards to full frame sensors : 36mm x 24mm. For most APS-C sensors, the sensor size is 24mm x 16mm, which is respectively 1.5 times smaller than the full frame sensor. Yes, we talk about single dimension, not the area (you square it up for area, which is 2.25 times, but skip it). Because the APS-C sensor is 1.5 time smaller, the field of view of the photo is 1.5 time smaller than the full frame one. You can search google for photography field of view. Field of view is, however, inversely proportional to focal length, so for APS-C sensor, the full frame equivalent focal length is 1.5 times bigger than the same focal length if attached to a full frame camera. If you read more on the internet, it is called crop factor.
Before I bought my Sony FE 85 1.8, I did a lot of comparing to the Batis, and couldn’t find any major differences that drew me to spend the extra money on the Batis. I did however fall in love with the 85mm focal length!!! Like. WOW!! The results on the lens are just amazing! Especially with nighttime street photography!
This boils down to two things: 1.) the 85mm forces you to do the work inside the camera (and with your feet), where it should be done. 2.) If you have a talking head in your video (not a VLOG), then 85mm gives you that distance to remain personal, yet your subject will not feel crowded. The 85mm Batis is spectacular, and I've owned quite a few 85s in my career. Good video.
@@natashanicole7408 I have not tried the 85GM, Natasha. I use the Batis on an almost daily basis, though. I'm sure I'd like the f/1.4 of the GM. Perhaps one day.
A less expensive lens that gets you in the ballpark is the Samyang 75mm f/1.8. Incredibly lightweight and compact, and currently runs about $330. Sharp, good AF, really light and compact.
With a pure prime being out of my budget, I like to use the 90mm 2.8 Macro lens for similar use. It's even a tad closer and 2.8 isn't 1.8 but it allows for getting close for details where the 85 would not focus. So it's a lovely compromise in spring when all the stuff bursts into bloom.
I am the same all I need for wedding is my 35mm and 85mm and I am covered. All my clients love the results too. I have not touched my 24-70 2.8 for months.
I bought the Batis 85 last month. And I really love it! I thought the lens which over 400g is too large and heavy before I got it,but now, I really love to hold it on my hand.
@@chosenideahandle Do you really think that the Sony 85mm has better image quality? I am right now deciding between Sigma 85mm, Sony 85mm and Zeiss 85mm
I am new to photography/videography using aps-c but I fell in love directly with the Sigma 56mm f1.4 with the focus on the subject and almost all of my favorite photos are from it. Not gonna lie sometimes I wanted to have the 30mm on a confined space but it is worth it.
I heartily recommend 85mm as a candid lens for people and for intimate landscape work. I bought my first one, a Nikon, several decades ago. Now I use the Zeiss Batis on a Sony. That’s one sweet lens!
Beginner photographer here. Was a bit skeptical to get a 50mm lens as my second lens for my crop sensor camera (Nikon D5600) to do street photography but after watching Professor Hines I am really inspired to get one.. I believe I still haven't got the guts to ask strangers for their picture. Being able to capture them from a distance should be very helpful.. Great content.. Love from India 🇮🇳
Bought a 85 mm f1.8 with a Nikon D7000 almost 10 years ago. Never really got the hang of using it. Years passed and I kinda lost my passion for photography and I considered selling my 85 mm many times. I recently got a second hand full frame camera and I'm gonna give the 85 mm another try. Thank you for the inspiration!
Oh man, I never ever thought about getting an 85mm but I am now. I was so tied to the idea that 85 is usually for portraits but after hearing that professor and watching this video it has expanded my knowledge in this. I'm going to have to reconsider getting the 24-70 sigma!
For about 15 years now, my go to's has been the 35/1,4 and 85/1,8. Love that combo. Even when I've had a 17-35/2,8, 50/1,4 and 70-200/2,8 laying around. The 35/85 combo is so versatile and nice to shoot.
Yeess i want tye 35mm instead of an all terrain one like 24 105mm i hope in one month i cant get my 35mm f1.8 at least cause if there is a 1.4 i bet is like 200dlls more.. im short on my budget but one day ill buy a good sigma 1.4 🙈 now the 85mm is my treasure.
When I first got into photography, I was obsessed with macro. My first prime was the Sony 90mm macro lens. I love that it pulls double duty as macro and short telephoto. I find it surprising how good it is as a versatile lens. Great for macro, portraits, and landscape. Not half bad at street photography and product photography as well.
When I had the 85mm batis I used it a lot for street and it was fun. It was also good for events. It got me just close enough. I haven’t tried other 85s but there’s something cinematic about that compression and bokeh.
What isn't stressed enough when talking about focal length equivalences for crop sensors is that they are optically the same. It is the field of view that changes when you use a lens on a crop sensor. This is important because if you are trying to get an 85mm equivalent on a crop sensor camera, you'll end up with the same FOV, but you won't get the level of background compression that you might expect.
85mm f/1.8 was the first prime length I ever got when I bought my first camera, second lens ever after the kit zoom. I had a serious obsession with DoF right from the get go.
Ordered a 35mm, but B&H accidentally sent an 85. Took it as a sign I need to try something new and stop playing it safe with wider lenses. So happy I did. Love the 85 and I'm trying all sorts of photography I never thought I would be interested in. Turns out I love taking portraits and never once thought I would.
I just saw this somehow. Bruh, it’s dope as f that Zeiss sponsored you. That’s dope. It’s nothing but dope. Congratulations, Jason. Thanks for the videos.
So many choices, so many good things you can do with. From around $350-400 for fully manual, Around $700 for a nice Sony 85mm F1.8 [non zeiss of course] all the way up to much more. And yes on the top of that mountain the quite expensive but probably worth it F1.4 version. Owning a Sony 85mm F1.8. It is smooth, fine... great auto focus, and image quality is delightful. Once a year I go off to a renfair, well kinda like a renfair, and use the Sony 85mm F1.8 at full frame of course and offer people pictures. Trust me, that lens is big enough and with the right gear around it you look pro! My other lenses? A 35mm prime for a nice walk around. And a 24mm Prime if I need just that bit more width and effect.
The problem with recommending 50mm for a crop camera is that it is not really 85mm. I love portraits and at 85mm the face structures look so much better. And also the DOF is just not the same.
From your latest videos to this one, i think your channel deserves a lot more subscribers. I have learned a lot from your videos from shooting tips to lens choices in general.
Always loved the 85 focal length, even on a cropcamera. I initially used an older a-mount 85 f/1.4 Zeiss on my A7III using an adapter, but that was not a good experience (slow, hunting AF). I now bought the glorious 85 Batis and oh boy, it's a joy! It's a great compagnon to a fast 35 prime although it's a bit too narrow sometimes.
I mean, a Zeiss 85mm is a damn fine lens even if someone is being paid to pitch it. I got my first 85mm prime it was with the film maker kit for the D810 that came with the 35mm, 50mm, and 85mm. Mainly wanted the first two and didn't have much care about the 85. Fast forward a couple of years and the 85mm is the one that lived on my camera. I used it for most everything and really loved it for landscapes and cityscapes.
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6:40 you could have easily just pushed those small Japanese cars into the water to take your perfect shot man...
Agree, I used a 75 mm on my main Nikon for years, Not an 85, just the 50 with a .5 teleconverter. It gave a picture that was closer to what my eyes saw. Minor light loss, half a stop, and I was focused in on my primary subject. Better and cheaper than a zoom.
I hate wide for street, and sometimes for landscapes too. That look is so hopelessly dated. Wide is cool for action stuff though. 85mm > all in most cases.
Batis 85 was my first lens, then the Batis 25 and adding the 35 f2.8 for when I wanted to travel lighter than M43rds. This summer I bought the Sony 24 f1.4 and haven’t used the Batis 25 since.
My FAVORITE lens for street photography. I have the Samyang, it's not my favorite because it's pretty lame in low light but the pictures I take where it actually works well, I love. It's also really fun to use for action and scenes. I don't care what a lens is supposed to be for, I only care that it's fun and I like the photos. 😃
I wonder how it will affect the curvature... macro lenses tend to be quite straight in their field curvature. While portrait lenses are not always super straight. Not to mention bokey quality. Still the 90mm F2.8 for portrait should work fine!
That lens is so sharp for portraits I’ve heard people say they have to reduce clarity cause the skin is to crisp 🤣. I think it’s Sonys sharpest lens. I’d love to have one.
I’ve got an A6600 and my favourite lens is my 50mm which is equivalent to something near of 80mm. A lot of people whom I’ve taken photos for and with prefer this and I’ve ended up shooting with this more. I really like it! I guess it depends on your style and how you prefer to take photos yourself but love the video!
I borrowed the Sony 12-24 mm wide-angle zoom for a landscape session, accompanied by my 85mm. 90% of my favourite shots were taken with the 85. I love telephoto landscape photography
Finally! Someone says "Shoot with whatever the hell you want". Like for real, photography has no "rules" and specified lenses to use. Been shooting for over 20 years and getting back into photography as a final stand career. People come up with these bandwagon ways and most new people follow it and regurgitate it to the next new person. Blind leading the blind. I took lifestyle and nature shoots with a 50mm. I've taken real estate with a kit lens. I've shot some very fantastic shots using my kit lens at 25mm. Love your thought process on this. Half the people I run into call themselves "photographers" and have no idea how to shoot anything outside of auto settings and only shoot the same ol way same ol style with same ol results. You can shoot with whatever you want and get the results you like. Not every shot gotta be "bokeh". Open your mind to unlock other opportunity to your shooting stylistics. What I'm saying is everybody has different perspectives and POV's on everything, instead of listening to 100% everything you pick up, experiment with what you've learned and branch out.
Just found your channel I don't know how you don't have way more subs than you do. Every video I've watched of yours has been fantastic man. Keep up the great work.
Zeiss' money is well spent on you, young man. You present yourself as being very knowledgeable, affable, brimming with positivity & useful information. I just moved to an entire OM-1 system; 2 / 2.8 zooms & a macro for starters. I've always wanted a dedicated & worthy 'street' set up, so I went with a Sony a7c & Sigma Art dg hsm 85mm 1.4. I'm hoping to be out & about with it in a few days. Great vid - informative, educational, and just the right length!
I couldn't agree more! It's the perfect focal length to have a strong focus on the subject while still showing the surroundings. I use the sony 50 / 1,8 on APS-C and love the shots from this setup. I actually think it a very good setting for beginners - while it might feel uncomfortable at first, it kind of forces you to focus on the subject and does not leave to much room for irrelevant stuff on the picture. For macro it also works great!
For me, photography is skies the limit. No focal length can stop you for being creative on your shot. A photo definitely depends on how we picture out the scene :)
I love shooring on an 85 and get amazing video footage with it. Rokinon EF mount. Just a word of advise; if you're using a crop sensor a 50 won;t give you the same effect, it just captures less in frame. The distance in foreground to background won't change based on your sensor.
4 years later, while you didn’t mean to sell me this lens, you did anyways. I was so focused on getting a 20mm for landscape and didn’t really think about how that focal length doesn’t fit with my photography style. I absolutely love to emphasize my subjects during street photography, rather than give away the whole scene. I like taking things away from their broader context. Naturally, it would make sense to do that same thing with landscape.
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Funny how you upload this the same day I’m shooting portraits for a upcoming MMA event. It’s a sign, something’s going down bruh. Lol Thank you for constantly uploading proper content Jason. 🙌🏻
I have to say Ive been subbed to you for a while. Ive enjoyed all your content and have to say your one of the most trust worthy you-tubers out there. I also feel that there seems to be a trend that you-tubers are taking note that their subscribers are burnt out from product pitches. I think you're going great. Keep going bro!
Jason! Great film, thank you! I did a review on my channel recently on the Sony 85mm f1.4, and it's also insanely sharp. I too love switching it up for my 35mm lens as a travel lens and using it when abroad, it gives a totally different and really elegant look to travel photos, pin points those details you otherwise wouldn't see! I'm not a pixel peeper at all, and I really try to stay away from pixel peeping, but whoa I've tried both these lenses and they are both razor sharp, with Sony being a tad quicker in the video AF, and also half the price, so obviously I bought the Sony, and added the Sony 50mm f1.8 (which I regret as it's slow as a tractor and NOT a video lens) to my basket. Catch you on the next one!
When I had my Nikon, my 85mm lens was used for MOST occasions whether portraits, street photography, and even many nature shots. It produced gorgeous photos! I think I loved the distance about it and it worked so well in my favor. I had a 35mm too, but that made people nervous when I took facial shots, which I'm not sure why I used that for close ups from time to time anyways. lol But now I recently bought a Sony and now have the 50mm f/1.2 and enjoying that. I still want another 85mm.
I got mine today and I love the F/1.4 for taking pictures of things and the blurry background. Btw it is quiet nice to carry since it is not too big. But I still have to take some portraits.
I shoot primarily on the Viltrox 85mm f/1.8 and have gotten amazing results from the relatively budget lens. About 99% of my portfolio shots were shot with that particular lens. The 85mm focal length is absolutely my favorite and I don’t shoot any portraits. I mostly shoot outdoors and want really strong subjects. While 50mm is regarded as being closest to the human eye’s field of view, I almost feel like I “see” in the 85mm focal length. I think it’s always worth considering focal lengths that aren’t usually used in the type of photography you generally shoot. If anything, I think it makes photos look more interesting and unique.
Totally saving up for the RF 85mm 1.2 because I really want one for Street Photo and for Video. Also love the way Prof. Hines describes lenses! Great video as always Jason! Hope the trip is going great!
The comments by Professor Hines and your own examples were really helpful. I fell into the trap of treating lenses in a particular way or for a particular subject. It inspired me to shake things up and I am glad I did. More importantly it made me realise I had become complacent and got me thinking much more and it is that last point which has been the most beneficial.
Hi Jason, Love your videos to begin with, and you thankfully reminded me about the 85 mm. I have a Zeiss Batis 85 that I bought when I purchased my Sony Alpha 9. I shot some great shots with it, but soon deferred to the 24-70 Sony Lens. I am going to give more love the the 85. Thanks, Wilfred
For a budget option I highly recommend the full manual Ttartisan 50mm 1.2 for apsc users! It is affordable, high quality material with great sharpness & creamy bokeh. Love this lens for 85mm photography!
I've got a canon 85 mm 1.8 ssc breech lock lens that I consistently use on my old Canon A1. It's is a absolutely marvelous lens!!! Thank you for this video. 85 mm is greatly underated.
On the same level, I had to buy many different lenses before I finally got a great deal on sony 85mmf18(felt the same, as I don't need it, because I shoot portraits pretty rarely) and "boy it was worth it". Loving the 85 looks and how it feels with full-frame sony. I have 70-200 as well, but I am using more and more this beautiful lense.
I am using one and only lens for years: a ZEISS Planar 1.4/50 on my Canon APSC (80mm equivalent). I am doing everything from portraits to landscape and cityscapes. It’s a matter of practice. Now I don’t need any other lens for my work! As for the ZEISS, the rendering and colors are unique. I used a Canon L 50mm 1.2 before but I did quite a bit of editing just to make the images look like that of Planar out of the camera!
sgpork can you just ask why do you bring a 16-35 and also a 35 prime lens, if you have that focal length on your zoom lens. Is it the type of lens that you use for the 35 or is prime lens just better for certain situations ?
@@audioxix my 16-35 is F4.. I use it more for landscape & indoor photos only.. The 35 prime can go to F1.4.. and 35mm on Full frame is my favorite.. I basically use it for everything. It's on my camera 80% of the time. The 85 come in handy if i need some reach or when i really need to blur out the background.. I choose this 3 because they just work for me n they are lighter/smaller to pack. Hence easier to bring around.
Love my 85 1.8. My third after the kit lens. You were right. 40mm panckake avm 50 mm 1.8 first. Love the 85 though. Seems warmer / golden and nice focal distance for MANY things. Used for event, close up, family at play, candids etc. Just a.little "zoomed in". Rouhly my center of vision, so that givees you a good feel of the field of view. Of, and dirt cheap (well, i'd love a stabilised 1.2, but that is out of budget for now).
When I began my photography education I took a class that was taught by a prominent newspaper photographer. He stated that the 85mm lens was like permanently attached to his camera for his work. He used the 85 for 90 percent of his photos. He stated the 85 was more close to his natural eye. This man produced amazing photos as a news photographer. The 85 has been my #1 lens ever since.
85mm is a great lens for full frame. Crop sensor folks, stick to 50mm.
Really? I was debating between sigma 56 and sony 85 for my crop sensor... why do u say stick with 50
@@stantheman3674 Just based on the crop factor. 50mm would be the equivalent of about 75mm to 80mm on most crop sensors, which gets you close to the focal length Jason is talking about. An 85mm lens on crop sensor would be 135mm or beyond. Granted, all that matters is the effect you're going for.
@@stantheman3674 85mm on crop sensor is 135mm. That's a telephoto. E.g for human subject, You gotta backaway couple meters away from your subject to get full body shot. Just try it yourself, it's not really a nice feeling
Yeah, on Canons, 50mm on full frame is 50X1.6=80mm on crop frame, close enough to an 85mm.
85mm on a D500 for snapping runners. Absolutely magic!
What professor Hines said was really just mind changing and gave me a whole new perspective of what I can do!
Right!?!! Genius!
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One and only first time someone told truth about camera lens with sensibility
What did Hines say? Where can I find what he said?
@@williamweaver2390 watch the Video @3:29 😄
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85mm is a great focal length for street, really. You get a closer without intruding... try it!
ill stick to 600 so they never see me..
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Are you SERIOUS??! Great for Streets? Hell no! Nothing is better than the 50mm Focal Length... 85mm is ONLY FOR PORTRAITS THAT'S IT.
@@lyspecu can use whatever lens to do street. if you are comfortable enough with ur gear, just go for it.
@@lyspec No it's not, I have a really sharp 105mm I've used for landscapes and architectural regularly for the flat image. You're just a talentless hack who can't think for yourself.
My 2 favorite primes to walk around with are the 35mm and the 85mm (or 90mm Macro if it's spring). If the 35mm is too wide 85 is perfect, and if the 85mm is too tele - the 35mm is perfect. I used to use a 50mm but I realized that I was either too close or too far away. In the end - I looked at my metadata in Lightroom (based on my 24-240mm) and found that a lot of my shots were around 35 or 85 rather than 50. I think the key to falling in love with the 85mm and not feel super constrained is to also carry a wide (whatever your FL of choice is there).
Do you have a full frame camera and which specific lenses?
@@Milan-cf1xe Yes, I own 2 full frame cameras (and also 2 crop sensor ones). I have 4 zooms and 6 primes for the full frame system. Why do you need to know all my lenses? Not going to take the effort to list it all out. What are you trying to work out?
@@MeAMuse I am Interested because you said that your fav setup is 35 and 85. So i like it too an i am interested which 35 and 85 you have since for Sony E Mount there are so many lenses especially at this focal lengths
@@Milan-cf1xe In that range I have a Sony Zeiss 35mm F2.8, a Sony 35mm F1.8, the Sony 85mm F1.8 and the Sony 90mm Macro. Mostly I take the F1.8s but depends what I am up to.
@@MeAMuse Oh yeah especially the 35mm 1.8 and 85mm 1.8 where the lenses i was looking at. They seem to be very good lenses for their price
I love taking landscape and street photos with my 85mm. I'm going to be traveling to Japan with just my 35 and 85 with me next month.
I love my 70-200, but the sony 85mm 1.8 is such a compact little gem, I may need to pick one up at some point. It's all well and good doing street photography with a 70-200, but when people think you're aiming an RPG at their face it's hard to stay inconspicuous.
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I have started my career as a wedding photographer and i bought sony a7m3 with kit lens 28-70 f3.5-5.6 and i am planning to buy a new lens because i have some shoots so i am bit confused which lens to purchase price lens 35mm f1.8 or 85mm f1.8 or should I buy tamron 70-180 f2.8 ?
@@CarlosTucker-sp4bj70 to 200. Way more versatile.
I'm a huge fan of using longer focal lengths. I find super wide in my case to be a little lack-luster. I really like getting in tight and focusing on my subject.
For beginners don't be discouraged.
If you get an APS-C dslr/mirrorless camera, most of the time you get an 18-55 kit lets, and you can multiply that to 1.5
So you basically get 27-82mm which is close enough to 85mm FOV
You can also set it to 35mm on the lens and multiply by 1.5 you get a pretty close to 50mm FOV.
And if you want a 35mm FOV equivalent set it around 24mm on your lens.
wait, how do you multiply???
@@JiteshRout any focal length times 1.5
For canon aps-c it’s x1.6
@@chubscoi Could you please explain more what do you mean by this?
@@nadrenders4149 It's not always that obvious, but focal lengths in photography world are stated with regards to full frame sensors : 36mm x 24mm.
For most APS-C sensors, the sensor size is 24mm x 16mm, which is respectively 1.5 times smaller than the full frame sensor. Yes, we talk about single dimension, not the area (you square it up for area, which is 2.25 times, but skip it).
Because the APS-C sensor is 1.5 time smaller, the field of view of the photo is 1.5 time smaller than the full frame one. You can search google for photography field of view.
Field of view is, however, inversely proportional to focal length, so for APS-C sensor, the full frame equivalent focal length is 1.5 times bigger than the same focal length if attached to a full frame camera.
If you read more on the internet, it is called crop factor.
Before I bought my Sony FE 85 1.8, I did a lot of comparing to the Batis, and couldn’t find any major differences that drew me to spend the extra money on the Batis. I did however fall in love with the 85mm focal length!!! Like. WOW!! The results on the lens are just amazing! Especially with nighttime street photography!
This boils down to two things: 1.) the 85mm forces you to do the work inside the camera (and with your feet), where it should be done. 2.) If you have a talking head in your video (not a VLOG), then 85mm gives you that distance to remain personal, yet your subject will not feel crowded. The 85mm Batis is spectacular, and I've owned quite a few 85s in my career. Good video.
Thanks for sharing your insight greg!!
Have you tried the 85GM Greg?
@@natashanicole7408 I have not tried the 85GM, Natasha. I use the Batis on an almost daily basis, though. I'm sure I'd like the f/1.4 of the GM. Perhaps one day.
@@JasonVong can you donate that one camera for me sony a7iii which i been trying to buy one for my job
The 85mm Zeiss was my second lens I bought for the Sony system 2 years ago and still absolutely love it!
im shocked! you went straight for the BEST ;)
WISH ONE IS YOUR FIRST LENS ?
A less expensive lens that gets you in the ballpark is the Samyang 75mm f/1.8. Incredibly lightweight and compact, and currently runs about $330. Sharp, good AF, really light and compact.
i had to wipe my monitor after your "sponsored by Zeiss" line.
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With a pure prime being out of my budget, I like to use the 90mm 2.8 Macro lens for similar use. It's even a tad closer and 2.8 isn't 1.8 but it allows for getting close for details where the 85 would not focus. So it's a lovely compromise in spring when all the stuff bursts into bloom.
I’m an event photographer. I use a d5 and d4. I use always use my 85mm and 24-70mm. When I get home. 80% are on the 85mm.
The Sony 85mm F1.8 is one of my favorite lenses📷😀. Great job on informing others on what you can do with the 85MM prime lens.
StormanCast i Love it also 👍🥰
That’s my fav 85mm for a Sony. Small, light, sharp and cheapish
Hell yes. Basically haven't taken it off since I got it
Is it good for aps-c sensors?
@@kelvinbernardino2687 I also use it with my Sony A6400 It becomes like a 135MM telephoto lens because of the crop factor.
A few years back I did not like the 85 focal point at all , now I can’t live without it.
I am the same all I need for wedding is my 35mm and 85mm and I am covered. All my clients love the results too. I have not touched my 24-70 2.8 for months.
Richard Budai do you have 2 camera during the event or swap lens?
I love the professor's advise. Thank you for this video.
His message was so profound.
I bought the Batis 85 last month. And I really love it! I thought the lens which over 400g is too large and heavy before I got it,but now, I really love to hold it on my hand.
If you decide to ever go lighter, you can shave 30g with the Sony 85 1.8. In the opinion of some a better lens, and you save $600.
@@chosenideahandle Do you really think that the Sony 85mm has better image quality? I am right now deciding between Sigma 85mm, Sony 85mm and Zeiss 85mm
@@Milan-cf1xeno the batis has better image quality, more saturated, more contrasty, better flare control
Fun fact, 85mm was my first lens and been shooting with 85 almost about 4 years now. It creates a specific type of photos that I love!
I am new to photography/videography using aps-c but I fell in love directly with the Sigma 56mm f1.4 with the focus on the subject and almost all of my favorite photos are from it.
Not gonna lie sometimes I wanted to have the 30mm on a confined space but it is worth it.
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90mm 2.8 ‘macro’ is equally good (focal length and bokeh), sharper and more versatile (macro 1:1)... and I love it
25 and 85 Batis The best choice I ever made for my Sony setup.
my favorite Portrait combo!
I heartily recommend 85mm as a candid lens for people and for intimate landscape work. I bought my first one, a Nikon, several decades ago. Now I use the Zeiss Batis on a Sony. That’s one sweet lens!
Beginner photographer here. Was a bit skeptical to get a 50mm lens as my second lens for my crop sensor camera (Nikon D5600) to do street photography but after watching Professor Hines I am really inspired to get one.. I believe I still haven't got the guts to ask strangers for their picture. Being able to capture them from a distance should be very helpful.. Great content.. Love from India 🇮🇳
0:36: nevermind 85s, you don't see ANY tourist with a prime lens. They're all on kit lens.
Bought a 85 mm f1.8 with a Nikon D7000 almost 10 years ago. Never really got the hang of using it. Years passed and I kinda lost my passion for photography and I considered selling my 85 mm many times. I recently got a second hand full frame camera and I'm gonna give the 85 mm another try. Thank you for the inspiration!
If you decide to sell, I’m your girl
Oh man, I never ever thought about getting an 85mm but I am now. I was so tied to the idea that 85 is usually for portraits but after hearing that professor and watching this video it has expanded my knowledge in this. I'm going to have to reconsider getting the 24-70 sigma!
Love 85mm for video and photography, it surely takes practice to get accustomed to the distances but it's totally worth it
For about 15 years now, my go to's has been the 35/1,4 and 85/1,8. Love that combo. Even when I've had a 17-35/2,8, 50/1,4 and 70-200/2,8 laying around. The 35/85 combo is so versatile and nice to shoot.
Yeess i want tye 35mm instead of an all terrain one like 24 105mm i hope in one month i cant get my 35mm f1.8 at least cause if there is a 1.4 i bet is like 200dlls more.. im short on my budget but one day ill buy a good sigma 1.4 🙈 now the 85mm is my treasure.
85 is ALWAYS my second lens, on any camera system I have. First is a 35mm and then an 85mm.
Really all I need--anything else is a bonus.
When I first got into photography, I was obsessed with macro. My first prime was the Sony 90mm macro lens. I love that it pulls double duty as macro and short telephoto. I find it surprising how good it is as a versatile lens. Great for macro, portraits, and landscape. Not half bad at street photography and product photography as well.
35 1.4 GM and the Sony 90 mm are my target lenses for my dynamic trio team. Already got a 1.8 50mm.
Push the boundaries of lenses and use lenses outside of what people label the lenses for?
*takes portraits with a 400mm*
Some one did that 🤣🤣🤣
Just stand across the street😃
I mean, that's basically what sports photographers use
Been there, done the deed.next
I mean if you really wanna make something in the background more prominent the compressed perspective is great. I'll stick with my 300 though.
When I had the 85mm batis I used it a lot for street and it was fun. It was also good for events. It got me just close enough. I haven’t tried other 85s but there’s something cinematic about that compression and bokeh.
I love the 85mm. It was actually my second lens after the 50mm. Especially on an aps-c body
What isn't stressed enough when talking about focal length equivalences for crop sensors is that they are optically the same. It is the field of view that changes when you use a lens on a crop sensor. This is important because if you are trying to get an 85mm equivalent on a crop sensor camera, you'll end up with the same FOV, but you won't get the level of background compression that you might expect.
85mm f/1.8 was the first prime length I ever got when I bought my first camera, second lens ever after the kit zoom. I had a serious obsession with DoF right from the get go.
I'm beginning to think I need to retract my statement. So many of yall got the 85mm as your second lens!
@@JasonVong I think what attracts a lot of people to professional cameras over point and shoots is that bokeh! And a fast 85 is the best way to get it
Ordered a 35mm, but B&H accidentally sent an 85. Took it as a sign I need to try something new and stop playing it safe with wider lenses. So happy I did. Love the 85 and I'm trying all sorts of photography I never thought I would be interested in. Turns out I love taking portraits and never once thought I would.
I’ve tried a lot of glass and found what I love... my standard kit is a a7r3 and the gmaster 24 and 85. LOVE those two lenses.
Are you me ?!?
Jason Vong maybe we’re related 😉or just have really good taste in focal lengths 😁😎
I just recent got the Viltrox 85 mm lens for my fuji and my god does it deliver. Im loving everything about it
I just saw this somehow. Bruh, it’s dope as f that Zeiss sponsored you. That’s dope. It’s nothing but dope. Congratulations, Jason. Thanks for the videos.
I have a Nikkor 85mm 1.8G and I love it so much. The rendition, sharpness, clarity, perspective and light to moderate compression is so captivating
So many choices, so many good things you can do with. From around $350-400 for fully manual, Around $700 for a nice Sony 85mm F1.8 [non zeiss of course] all the way up to much more. And yes on the top of that mountain the quite expensive but probably worth it F1.4 version.
Owning a Sony 85mm F1.8. It is smooth, fine... great auto focus, and image quality is delightful.
Once a year I go off to a renfair, well kinda like a renfair, and use the Sony 85mm F1.8 at full frame of course and offer people pictures. Trust me, that lens is big enough and with the right gear around it you look pro!
My other lenses? A 35mm prime for a nice walk around. And a 24mm Prime if I need just that bit more width and effect.
Totally agree on all points Difficult focal length to use but the Sony GM 85mm 1.4 look is magical.
The problem with recommending 50mm for a crop camera is that it is not really 85mm. I love portraits and at 85mm the face structures look so much better. And also the DOF is just not the same.
56mm is closer. Fuji has good 56mm lenses and a 50 f1
I like the 75mm equivalent more so I use the 50f1
Absolutely agree with Professor Hines. This process of thoughts is actually life changing once you live by it.
Glad your videos take cropped sensor cameras into account, which is what most viewers on these channels will own.
From your latest videos to this one, i think your channel deserves a lot more subscribers. I have learned a lot from your videos from shooting tips to lens choices in general.
Always loved the 85 focal length, even on a cropcamera. I initially used an older a-mount 85 f/1.4 Zeiss on my A7III using an adapter, but that was not a good experience (slow, hunting AF). I now bought the glorious 85 Batis and oh boy, it's a joy! It's a great compagnon to a fast 35 prime although it's a bit too narrow sometimes.
I mean, a Zeiss 85mm is a damn fine lens even if someone is being paid to pitch it.
I got my first 85mm prime it was with the film maker kit for the D810 that came with the 35mm, 50mm, and 85mm. Mainly wanted the first two and didn't have much care about the 85. Fast forward a couple of years and the 85mm is the one that lived on my camera. I used it for most everything and really loved it for landscapes and cityscapes.
6:40 you could have easily just pushed those small Japanese cars into the water to take your perfect shot man...
they would've karate chopped me out of that lake if i did that 😂😂😂
if there is no car this pic would be best picture
you actually made me laugh out loud writing that..
Agree, I used a 75 mm on my main Nikon for years, Not an 85, just the 50 with a .5 teleconverter. It gave a picture that was closer to what my eyes saw. Minor light loss, half a stop, and I was focused in on my primary subject. Better and cheaper than a zoom.
85mm is such a great focal length. So good for landscapes, and street photography despite the normal practise of wide angle lenses for both
I hate wide for street, and sometimes for landscapes too. That look is so hopelessly dated. Wide is cool for action stuff though. 85mm > all in most cases.
Batis 85 was my first lens, then the Batis 25 and adding the 35 f2.8 for when I wanted to travel lighter than M43rds. This summer I bought the Sony 24 f1.4 and haven’t used the Batis 25 since.
Love the 85, especially for podcast/interview purposes
My FAVORITE lens for street photography. I have the Samyang, it's not my favorite because it's pretty lame in low light but the pictures I take where it actually works well, I love.
It's also really fun to use for action and scenes. I don't care what a lens is supposed to be for, I only care that it's fun and I like the photos. 😃
I think 90mm f2.8 macro is a good choice as it has good balance btwn portraits and macro (obvi for ppl who need macro)
I wonder how it will affect the curvature... macro lenses tend to be quite straight in their field curvature. While portrait lenses are not always super straight. Not to mention bokey quality.
Still the 90mm F2.8 for portrait should work fine!
Obviously owns a 90mm macro lol
That lens is so sharp for portraits I’ve heard people say they have to reduce clarity cause the skin is to crisp 🤣. I think it’s Sonys sharpest lens. I’d love to have one.
I started with an helios 44-2 58mm (87mm equivalent on APSC). It is still one of my favorite focal lengths.
I’ve got an A6600 and my favourite lens is my 50mm which is equivalent to something near of 80mm. A lot of people whom I’ve taken photos for and with prefer this and I’ve ended up shooting with this more. I really like it! I guess it depends on your style and how you prefer to take photos yourself but love the video!
I recently purchased a 85 mm f/1.4. I am so glad I watched your video. Thank for your awesome tips I can’t wait to start shooting with it 🙌🏻🙌🏻
Hines with that infinite wisdom!
I borrowed the Sony 12-24 mm wide-angle zoom for a landscape session, accompanied by my 85mm. 90% of my favourite shots were taken with the 85. I love telephoto landscape photography
Dude, this was so helpful! I'm considering getting a 85mm lens so thanks for the tips on what to expect!
have you tried the 85 yet? well i want to get the 85mm but can i use it on the crop lens
Finally! Someone says "Shoot with whatever the hell you want". Like for real, photography has no "rules" and specified lenses to use. Been shooting for over 20 years and getting back into photography as a final stand career. People come up with these bandwagon ways and most new people follow it and regurgitate it to the next new person. Blind leading the blind. I took lifestyle and nature shoots with a 50mm. I've taken real estate with a kit lens. I've shot some very fantastic shots using my kit lens at 25mm. Love your thought process on this. Half the people I run into call themselves "photographers" and have no idea how to shoot anything outside of auto settings and only shoot the same ol way same ol style with same ol results. You can shoot with whatever you want and get the results you like. Not every shot gotta be "bokeh". Open your mind to unlock other opportunity to your shooting stylistics. What I'm saying is everybody has different perspectives and POV's on everything, instead of listening to 100% everything you pick up, experiment with what you've learned and branch out.
Seems like a great lens for indoor sports like basketball and volleyball for a light set up
Just found your channel I don't know how you don't have way more subs than you do. Every video I've watched of yours has been fantastic man. Keep up the great work.
sigma 56mm 1.4 on apsc (eq 84mm) is my second lens and I love it!
I'm considering it..But really confused between sigma 30mm and 56mm
Zeiss' money is well spent on you, young man. You present yourself as being very knowledgeable, affable, brimming with positivity & useful information.
I just moved to an entire OM-1 system; 2 / 2.8 zooms & a macro for starters. I've always wanted a dedicated & worthy 'street' set up, so I went with a Sony a7c & Sigma Art dg hsm 85mm 1.4. I'm hoping to be out & about with it in a few days.
Great vid - informative, educational, and just the right length!
I couldn't agree more! It's the perfect focal length to have a strong focus on the subject while still showing the surroundings. I use the sony 50 / 1,8 on APS-C and love the shots from this setup. I actually think it a very good setting for beginners - while it might feel uncomfortable at first, it kind of forces you to focus on the subject and does not leave to much room for irrelevant stuff on the picture. For macro it also works great!
I fell in love with 85mm when I shot wedding videos with it! OMG what a lens!
For me, photography is skies the limit. No focal length can stop you for being creative on your shot. A photo definitely depends on how we picture out the scene :)
I love shooring on an 85 and get amazing video footage with it. Rokinon EF mount. Just a word of advise; if you're using a crop sensor a 50 won;t give you the same effect, it just captures less in frame. The distance in foreground to background won't change based on your sensor.
I would love if you start including your camera settings in the lens examples!
4 years later, while you didn’t mean to sell me this lens, you did anyways. I was so focused on getting a 20mm for landscape and didn’t really think about how that focal length doesn’t fit with my photography style. I absolutely love to emphasize my subjects during street photography, rather than give away the whole scene. I like taking things away from their broader context. Naturally, it would make sense to do that same thing with landscape.
What will you be using your 85mm for?
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Funny how you upload this the same day I’m shooting portraits for a upcoming MMA event.
It’s a sign, something’s going down bruh. Lol
Thank you for constantly uploading proper content Jason. 🙌🏻
I have to say Ive been subbed to you for a while. Ive enjoyed all your content and have to say your one of the most trust worthy you-tubers out there. I also feel that there seems to be a trend that you-tubers are taking note that their subscribers are burnt out from product pitches. I think you're going great. Keep going bro!
Hines is right i also enjoy shooting travel photos with the batis 85mm
@@donatellopetrini1081 Appreciate you watching! :)
Jason! Great film, thank you! I did a review on my channel recently on the Sony 85mm f1.4, and it's also insanely sharp. I too love switching it up for my 35mm lens as a travel lens and using it when abroad, it gives a totally different and really elegant look to travel photos, pin points those details you otherwise wouldn't see! I'm not a pixel peeper at all, and I really try to stay away from pixel peeping, but whoa I've tried both these lenses and they are both razor sharp, with Sony being a tad quicker in the video AF, and also half the price, so obviously I bought the Sony, and added the Sony 50mm f1.8 (which I regret as it's slow as a tractor and NOT a video lens) to my basket. Catch you on the next one!
i still have my 85mm 1.8 batis since if came out, loving it ever since ✨📸
4:00 _"Nowhere on that lens..."_
Finally! No more lens pigeon-holing!
I really love my 50mm f1.4 on my APS-C so im definately going for a 85mm when i "upgrade" to full frame this week.
I shoot M43, and I own only one prime lens (between two zooms): the Zuiko 45mm 1.2. So, I understand you!
Perfect!!!
SEL85F18 is my third lens. Loving it so much!
Won an auction for the canon 85/1.8, too excited to wait!
Nice
J C A what site was the auction on?
392 Horseplay good ole ebay
When I had my Nikon, my 85mm lens was used for MOST occasions whether portraits, street photography, and even many nature shots. It produced gorgeous photos! I think I loved the distance about it and it worked so well in my favor. I had a 35mm too, but that made people nervous when I took facial shots, which I'm not sure why I used that for close ups from time to time anyways. lol But now I recently bought a Sony and now have the 50mm f/1.2 and enjoying that. I still want another 85mm.
get samyang 85 it is amazing
I love using 85mm for street photography because I feel it’s a nonintrusive focal length.
Jason that FUJI with the brilliant red...SO STUNNING!
eyeing on that sigma 56mm for my A6400. good vid dude, greetings from the Philippines
Me too, did you buy it?
I got mine today and I love the F/1.4 for taking pictures of things and the blurry background. Btw it is quiet nice to carry since it is not too big.
But I still have to take some portraits.
I fully agree, 85mm is my favorite!
my second lense ordered yesterday . sony FE 85mm 1.8 & godox V1
Awesome! have fun! take some good portraits with it!!
I shoot primarily on the Viltrox 85mm f/1.8 and have gotten amazing results from the relatively budget lens. About 99% of my portfolio shots were shot with that particular lens. The 85mm focal length is absolutely my favorite and I don’t shoot any portraits. I mostly shoot outdoors and want really strong subjects. While 50mm is regarded as being closest to the human eye’s field of view, I almost feel like I “see” in the 85mm focal length. I think it’s always worth considering focal lengths that aren’t usually used in the type of photography you generally shoot. If anything, I think it makes photos look more interesting and unique.
Totally saving up for the RF 85mm 1.2 because I really want one for Street Photo and for Video. Also love the way Prof. Hines describes lenses! Great video as always Jason! Hope the trip is going great!
The comments by Professor Hines and your own examples were really helpful. I fell into the trap of treating lenses in a particular way or for a particular subject. It inspired me to shake things up and I am glad I did. More importantly it made me realise I had become complacent and got me thinking much more and it is that last point which has been the most beneficial.
Hi Jason, Love your videos to begin with, and you thankfully reminded me about the 85 mm. I have a Zeiss Batis 85 that I bought when I purchased my Sony Alpha 9. I shot some great shots with it, but soon deferred to the 24-70 Sony Lens. I am going to give more love the the 85. Thanks, Wilfred
For a budget option I highly recommend the full manual Ttartisan 50mm 1.2 for apsc users! It is affordable, high quality material with great sharpness & creamy bokeh. Love this lens for 85mm photography!
85 all day every day and twice on sunday baby WOOOOOOO
I've got a canon 85 mm 1.8 ssc breech lock lens that I consistently use on my old Canon A1. It's is a absolutely marvelous lens!!! Thank you for this video. 85 mm is greatly underated.
On the same level, I had to buy many different lenses before I finally got a great deal on sony 85mmf18(felt the same, as I don't need it, because I shoot portraits pretty rarely) and "boy it was worth it". Loving the 85 looks and how it feels with full-frame sony. I have 70-200 as well, but I am using more and more this beautiful lense.
I am using one and only lens for years: a ZEISS Planar 1.4/50 on my Canon APSC (80mm equivalent). I am doing everything from portraits to landscape and cityscapes. It’s a matter of practice. Now I don’t need any other lens for my work! As for the ZEISS, the rendering and colors are unique. I used a Canon L 50mm 1.2 before but I did quite a bit of editing just to make the images look like that of Planar out of the camera!
Whenever i travel.. I always bring 16-35. 35. and 85.
sgpork can you just ask why do you bring a 16-35 and also a 35 prime lens, if you have that focal length on your zoom lens. Is it the type of lens that you use for the 35 or is prime lens just better for certain situations ?
@@audioxix my 16-35 is F4.. I use it more for landscape & indoor photos only.. The 35 prime can go to F1.4.. and 35mm on Full frame is my favorite.. I basically use it for everything. It's on my camera 80% of the time.
The 85 come in handy if i need some reach or when i really need to blur out the background..
I choose this 3 because they just work for me n they are lighter/smaller to pack. Hence easier to bring around.
Love my 85 1.8. My third after the kit lens. You were right. 40mm panckake avm 50 mm 1.8 first. Love the 85 though. Seems warmer / golden and nice focal distance for MANY things. Used for event, close up, family at play, candids etc. Just a.little "zoomed in". Rouhly my center of vision, so that givees you a good feel of the field of view. Of, and dirt cheap (well, i'd love a stabilised 1.2, but that is out of budget for now).