Why 85mm Is Misunderstood

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  • @allee2445
    @allee2445 Месяц назад +28

    You are one of the few who explain the subject extremely well. Most RUclipsrs just oohs and ahhs on bokeh. That separates a true photographer from a youtube gear head.

    • @careylymanjones
      @careylymanjones 24 дня назад +2

      If you can't get enough bokeh from an 85mm f/1.8, you're doing it wrong.🤣

  • @andrewdoeshair
    @andrewdoeshair 2 месяца назад +102

    I took a trip to Ireland for work (hair stuff) and brought an 85 because I was going to be shooting hair models and wasn’t thinking of tourist stuff when I packed, but on that trip I recall shooting a castle with what I had on me and it changed everything. I was blown away by how massive the castle felt in the frame and I couldn’t believe how straight the lines were. It looked so regal and other worldly. So on my next trip (Iceland) I brought an 85 and a 135, and my friends thought I was crazy, I was doing it wrong, but to this day I see photos of wet people in the mist of a tiny and warped Skógafoss, surrounded by other tourists, while I was shooting my wife in the parking lot with a 135mm as the powerful waterfall engulfed the frame as though it were coming for us while little tourist ants speckled about the distant background to be easily removed later.

    • @ShutterNChill
      @ShutterNChill Месяц назад +12

      The 85mm / 135mm is absolutely fantastic for landscapes and sights, and they make me walk around a bit more, so a lot more healthy as well. The venerable EF 85mm F1.8 USM is absolutely gorgeous on a mirrorless, it is my favorite lens next to the Sigma ART 35mm F1.4 (well, very different focal length, a completely different story...). It still has that painterly dreamy style to it as it has on a DSLR, but it has insane resolution added to it. Healthy resolution, not that over-resolved look with neutered colors of the mirrorless lenses. And it's light enough to take on trips. ;

    • @ericcastelazo6034
      @ericcastelazo6034 Месяц назад +2

      I’d love to see these pictures I’m considering getting an 85mm, do you have them posted anywhere?

    • @andrewdoeshair
      @andrewdoeshair 2 дня назад

      @@ericcastelazo6034 I don’t have them listed anywhere, but on my channel I have a video about “budget portrait lenses for canon EF” (aimed toward hairstylists and barbers who want to buy a first camera for upgrading their hair portfolios) and in that video there are a few sample shots of Ireland and Iceland through an 85mm lens. I believe the cover photo was also taken at castle Leslie in Ireland using an 85mm

    • @charlieross-BRM
      @charlieross-BRM День назад +1

      Before I could afford my own camera I could take my dad's Minolta SRT101 anytime and after he added a 135mm lens I was in heaven. Mostly I was shooting trackside at TransAm races in the late 1970s, and white water paddlers. Those were and are some of my most memorable shots. The lens was very good for other shots too but always good when I shot with intent. I'm expecting a 7Artisans 85mm 1.8 at my door later today - just because.
      And good on ya' for experiencing Ireland.

  • @arianvangend2536
    @arianvangend2536 2 месяца назад +51

    I never realized this point about the background for the 85mm. Very interesting!
    Definitely have to put mine back on the camera for a renewed perspective on it now,
    Thanks so much!

    • @ChrisM-yq2pq
      @ChrisM-yq2pq Месяц назад +1

      It brings background closer to subject

  • @dmytrohryshyn
    @dmytrohryshyn 2 месяца назад +96

    I never had 85 prime. But I used 50mm. 1.8 with crop camera for a long time. It was on my camera 95% of the time.

    • @LouisLuzuka
      @LouisLuzuka 2 месяца назад +10

      same, I feel like its the same difference lmao

    • @MartinCastein
      @MartinCastein  2 месяца назад +27

      i used the 80d with the 50mm 1.8 as well, i loved that combination. have a look here and the next 3 pictures if you are interested 500px.com/photo/182646035/natalie-by-martin-castein

    • @utube321piotr
      @utube321piotr 2 месяца назад +24

      85mm look is not the same as 50mm on a crop, field of view or "equivalent focal length" are not the same

    • @tonycanniffe2360
      @tonycanniffe2360 2 месяца назад

      Me too! Love the look.

    • @LouisLuzuka
      @LouisLuzuka 2 месяца назад +20

      @@utube321piotr why does it matter just enjoy taking photos it’s close enough

  • @FeedScrn
    @FeedScrn 2 месяца назад +23

    Those are excellent points about the background with the 85mm... Thanks.

  • @JustinDoughtyphotoandvideo
    @JustinDoughtyphotoandvideo Месяц назад +13

    I absolutely love my 85 1.4 for street photography and portraiture. Its fantastic focal length forces you to think and work outside the box, adapt, and change how you shoot.

  • @marijanbabic9742
    @marijanbabic9742 2 месяца назад +12

    This one of the best videos you made. I didn't see people on RUclips paying attention on background when photographing with 85mm

    • @MartinCastein
      @MartinCastein  2 месяца назад +1

      thanks! im trying to understand why this one is doing so well.

    • @pianoman1973
      @pianoman1973 2 месяца назад

      @@MartinCastein Sony just released its 85 1.4 GM II lens, so many people probably looked up for reviews, and your video showed up on the side bar as a suggestion following it up :) Could be one of the reasons .. Anyways, great content ! Subscribed !

    • @MartinCastein
      @MartinCastein  2 месяца назад +4

      @@pianoman1973 oh thats interesting, i have been trying to work out what was different but that makes sense, i might see if i can use that as a thing then if thats the case. thanks for pointing it out!

  • @eastbaystreet1242
    @eastbaystreet1242 2 месяца назад +13

    Thank you, Martin. Some people have to be hit on the head before they get it - I am one of those folks. Your clear emphasis on the background helped me finally understand this lovely focal length/lens. I have a vintage Nikkor 85 1.8 on a D800 as my usual second body for prime/portrait, and the Z 180-600 on a Z9 for my equine sports (jumping) shots. They happen pretty fast once the horse leaves the ground to jump over the rail, and they are pretty far away, with the distance varying significantly from jump to jump (and with only seconds between them). But for the quiet moments, the wonderful quiet moments, I will be exploring a better understanding of the 85mm. All the best to you - I am truly grateful.

  • @andrewcroft2570
    @andrewcroft2570 2 месяца назад +10

    Great video, I love my 85mm 1.8 I use it quite a lot for my gig photography in smaller venues and paired with the 6D it's awesome.

  • @oliverzweipunktnull6720
    @oliverzweipunktnull6720 2 месяца назад +19

    Good video! As all of your content.
    Because of you I just bought a Canon Eos 6d brandnew! Yes, no mistake - brandnew, no clicks. A guy planned 2014 to start Photobusiness, but quit before start. The camera stucked on the shelf, wrapped in foil in the box. I couldnt believe it, but took the risk. Now I hav a brandnew camera made a decade ago. And I am so fascinated about the images.

    • @MartinCastein
      @MartinCastein  2 месяца назад +2

      Very lucky !

    • @jamesshephard2013
      @jamesshephard2013 2 месяца назад +2

      I bought a 6d new in 2018 purposely to shoot my US road trip, including sights like Golden Gate Bridge. It has done me proud for 6 years. I’ve now relegated it to my second body, in preference to the 5d mk3 that i recently bought used but in immaculate condition. They are both fantastic cameras.

    • @HeathHolden
      @HeathHolden 2 месяца назад +1

      The 6D files are quite beautiful, it is a special model for sure. Enjoy it and wring its neck, I used one for years photographing wildlife in Tasmania as a remote camera trap, after years in the hot, damp and freezing weather it just kept going.

    • @HeathHolden
      @HeathHolden 2 месяца назад

      The 6D files are quite beautiful, it is a special model for sure. Enjoy it and wring its neck, I used one for years photographing wildlife in Tasmania as a remote camera trap, after years in the hot, damp and freezing weather it just kept going.

    • @tompurvis1261
      @tompurvis1261 Месяц назад

      @@jamesshephard2013I do love the 5dm3. Good choice.

  • @samuelsmith6804
    @samuelsmith6804 2 месяца назад +14

    I like the space it can give the subject(s) in the frame when shooting from further away. Particularly when it’s a couple, it's like you're not invading their intimacy or moment they are sharing, it gives a passer-by even voyeuristic/cinematic look. I don't have an 85 prime, I have a 55 and 105. but I probably use 85 on my zoom more than any other focal length.

  • @Sooch900
    @Sooch900 Месяц назад +3

    This video made me subscribe immediately! I’ve watched a zillion photography videos here on RUclips and no one has nuanced and impactful information like you have! This is next level photography theory! Wonderfully and eloquently stated insight about the 85mm focal length. I’m off to watch your 50mm video and the rest!

  • @Skipsul
    @Skipsul 2 месяца назад +24

    There's an urban landscape / architecture shooter I've seen about who almost exclusively uses an 85 (and it shows - the lens itself is very travel worn). It's quite amazing what he does with it.

    • @MartinCastein
      @MartinCastein  2 месяца назад +5

      ive wanted to do this for a long time just 85 for landscape i dont suppose you know his name? just his name links are banned im afraid

    • @yoki9743
      @yoki9743 2 месяца назад +4

      @@MartinCastein Guessing at Professor Hines or Opticalwander

    • @Skipsul
      @Skipsul 2 месяца назад +7

      @@yoki9743 Professor Hines - thanks! Couldn't remember his name.

    • @MartinCastein
      @MartinCastein  2 месяца назад +3

      ok i will look him up, thanks!

    • @carlosoruna7174
      @carlosoruna7174 2 месяца назад +4

      ​@@MartinCastein85 for landscapes is great when you do landscapes bring an 85 to try it ,geez how bulky is an 85 f2 nikkor or a 90 sumicron.. dropped 50s in 75 since then it's been 21, 24, 35, 85, 90, 180. Lol nikkors and leitz

  • @RHC_NYC
    @RHC_NYC 29 дней назад +1

    Such a great and inspiring video. Was just looking up tips for shooting with an 85mm, and found this, and now extra excited. Thanks for the awesome video. New fan!

  • @JaredTremper
    @JaredTremper 2 месяца назад +29

    Yes!! I just shot a wedding on Sunday and a significant number of shots were with 85mm F1.8 G. I just looked at my F stops…many at 2.8 or so…and just enough clarity of background elements (including people reacting) to make that lens a winner. I also agree: no need for F1.4 or 1.2 in most scenarios.

  • @DACnew
    @DACnew Месяц назад +1

    Excellent. I’ve been too focussed on the subject! Time to lift my eyes to the BACKGROUND! 👏👏👏

  • @saarin0tsorry
    @saarin0tsorry Месяц назад +2

    I cannot tell how many times I go back and look over a group of shots and the ones with the 85mm f/1.8 are the stand outs? But I had never realized that the ones where the background was included were the ones I preferred! Such a great lesson! Your photos are also quite lovely! New to the channel today.

  • @Chrsly
    @Chrsly Месяц назад +4

    I use my 85/1.2 (Nikon) for volume photography ( schools, sports teams, etc. ). Previously I used a 50/1.8. It's not a scientific study or anything, but I've been getting approximately 20% more $ orders using the 85/1.2 overall. For my sports portraits I often shoot outdoors, (baseball in particular) and I've seen almost 30% more $ orders over the 50mm.
    With that aside, I hadn't thought about the differences in composition as much since I have a pretty standard setup (in the shade, trees and grass in the background, using a 36" modifier and 200w flash).
    I've just started to set photo challenges (e.g., pick a prime and shoot for a weekend) for myself to motivate me to get out and shoot more for myself and be more creative, and this video has encouraged me to use the 85 first and see how things turn out.
    Thanks for the thoughtful video!

  • @cash3612
    @cash3612 2 месяца назад +3

    I use the Canon RF 85 1.2 and have zero regrets. I love this lens regardless if i have it wide open or stopped down to around f8. Photographing cars at outdoor car shows gives me plenty of room to get the entire vehicle in frame while giving wonderful blurred images of the cars out of the DOF. I couldn’t be happier with my 85. Great video and thank you for the insight.

  • @dereksmith41
    @dereksmith41 10 дней назад +1

    Very thought provoking video, I’ve got a 56mm f1.8 on a Fuji body, and learning the best use for the lens. 😊

  • @BobbyRoy
    @BobbyRoy Месяц назад +14

    85 has to be one of my all time favourite FLs. It gives such a gorgeous look, even when NOT shot wide open. Even at f2.8 or so, it provides such a wonderful look!
    Clients LOVE that 85 look, from my experience. ❤❤

  • @michaelreaves6212
    @michaelreaves6212 2 месяца назад +3

    85mm is probably my fav focal length, partially because I started with a 50mm on an aps-c body, great video!

  • @lerx1980
    @lerx1980 2 месяца назад +1

    I like how you channel starts rolling.
    Got myself a 85mm equivalent for the XT1 and noticed this right away.
    Background is key and you have to think even more out of the box.
    And you need space. The 35mm is much easier to handle.
    I played around with 35mm on the 5D and use the 56mm on the Fuji now trying to teach my eye and push my photography further.

  • @swanseamale47
    @swanseamale47 2 месяца назад +10

    I used to love the 35mm with film.
    Recently I spent a few days shooting with just the 35 and 85mm primes.
    I found 90% of my shots were on the 85mm.
    For some reason I didn't find my old fave the 35mm cutting it now.
    Funny how tastes change with time.

    • @steve-4045
      @steve-4045 Месяц назад +1

      @@swanseamale47 I never had a 35mm lens and never missed it. In film days my wide angle lens was the 28mm. Eventually I found a good deal on a used 19mm lens. It was cheaper because the front ring was banged up so you couldn’t screw on filters. It came with a trial period (30 days, I think), and in my tests, I never found anything wrong optically, so I kept it. Great lens for its day.

  • @skylinevspec000
    @skylinevspec000 2 месяца назад +1

    I appreciate this channel I have always tried to photograph models in 135mm.. brings a lovley compression

  • @rosskramm206
    @rosskramm206 2 месяца назад +1

    Great video. I have the canon 1.2 and fall into the exact trap you describe. I start bringing in the background more thoughtfully. My favourite lens.

  • @petrpohnan875
    @petrpohnan875 2 месяца назад +1

    Very good point and excellent pictures in the video.
    This is exactly why I love so much my Sigma 105mm f/1.4 for full body portraits on a FF or even MF camera (Fuji GFX). The background compression together with some context given by the distance from a subject and nicely blurred surroundings give so appealing and special look.

  • @vc2251
    @vc2251 Месяц назад +1

    Beautiful work! Thank you for sharing your expertise and artistic vision. The 85mm is going to be my next lens.

  • @Ltmlaine
    @Ltmlaine 2 дня назад

    I used to have an 85 f/1.4 but abandoned it for the 70-200 f/2.8 when moving to the mirrorless system. Now I notice myself really missing an 85 prime.. Mostly for the background. You are absolutely right in this video.

  • @reesmarkham2140
    @reesmarkham2140 2 месяца назад +1

    I have a Canon 85mm 1.8 and Love it. This video inspired me yesterday, so this morning I took the 85mm out for a spin. Thanks to you I changed the way I compose for my prints. The out of focus background is going to be subject from now on. The sharp focus foreground object is only going to complement the blurry background. God Bless You, and thanks again for your contributions to the Art Community.

  • @des7638
    @des7638 27 дней назад

    awesome content and great points. ive been shooting for years and know instinctually some of these concepts but hearing you explain them so simply is wonderful and refreshing. thank you

  • @MrsMysteryWoman
    @MrsMysteryWoman Месяц назад +1

    85 is one of my favorite focal lengths for portraits- both cropped in close and far away.
    It also gives a more relaxed and natural vibe, because of the way the lens compresses things and it makes it easier for you to give your subjects some space. Since you need to get kind of far away for an 85 to get the full scene, I like to use it when I’m photographing couples and I tell them I’m just testing the light and because I’m further away than I would be with a wider angle lens they sometimes forget I’m even there and I tell them to just talk and relax for a minute and I end up getting the most natural, relaxed, “real” shots.
    I recently switched from a full frame DSLR to a crop sensor mirror list camera but I still love the 85 mm focal length. Although I find myself using the 56mm a little more often now - but that’s basically equivalent to an 85 mm on my crop sensor.

  • @alexanderbuffalo4156
    @alexanderbuffalo4156 Месяц назад

    Great message, this is my favorite lens for shooting my children. My background is film, use this a lot on location, so I am familiar. Moved me to purchase an 85mm years ago for my Canon 10D... yeah, that long ago, and still love it, watching this makes me want to run home and make more photos.

  • @PooMonkeyMan
    @PooMonkeyMan Месяц назад

    The timing of this coming across my feed is impeccable. I only recently started back on shooting with my 85mm because I really liked the F1.2 look and I didn’t want it sitting around. Being on the telephoto end, I’ve found it great for street and urban photography as I’m no longer up close with people but standing afar to get that look.

  • @otoskope
    @otoskope 2 дня назад

    So much good advice! Thanks a lot. I have an 85mm f1.8, which I'm really happy with. As you say, I guess this is enough for most situations, especially portraits, but as I like to do also more abstract photography where blurring is part of the image, with just hints of something in focus, I'd love to have a faster one too, for some experimentation. Maybe one day.

  • @auksmann
    @auksmann Месяц назад

    Great video! Thank you! I rarely use the 85mm lens, but every time I have, I've been amazed at the results.

  • @costasprosperity3297
    @costasprosperity3297 2 месяца назад +7

    I agree, it's not all about blurring the background, it's about telling a story. Although a blurry background does make the subject appear in the center of attention, it does give a creative look, actually I think that shooting at narrower apertures requires more skills, it requires more attention to details. If you own a 85mm f1.8 lens (like I do), in most cases there no need to buy a f1.4 lens. I might buy a 85mm f1.4 if I would find a very good deal, otherwise 85mm f1.8 is good enough for me.

  • @msantero5845
    @msantero5845 2 месяца назад

    This is one of the more informative videos I’ve seen on camera lenses. I think this hit it right on the head. Great job!

  • @Tom_367
    @Tom_367 2 месяца назад +1

    Wonderful photos you show us here!
    I started with a 85mm 1.8. When that did not work I bought a used 85mm 1.4.
    Recently I bought a 85mm 1.2. I really like it, although 1.2 is not recommended in every situation.

  • @elram2649
    @elram2649 2 месяца назад +4

    I got a 50mm F/1.8 some months ago.
    Next up will be an 85mm F/1.8 for portraiture work and a 16mm for real estate contracts. 😊

  • @kellandzo
    @kellandzo Месяц назад

    I have an 85mm 1.8 which sits on the shelf most of the time but you’ve inspired me to give it another look. Background! Great video.

  • @charlieross-BRM
    @charlieross-BRM День назад

    @7:45 Bam! Travel poster or magazine image with open space begging for the masthead, theme's title for that pic, etcetera ready to go without chopping out any of the composition.

  • @spatnaspolecnost
    @spatnaspolecnost Месяц назад

    My favourite focal length for videography messing around with manual, job or hobby. It just looks good man. If anything I often find it not long enough for the shot lol.

  • @tharinduwijayasena309
    @tharinduwijayasena309 Месяц назад

    Amazing photos Martin, brilliant explanation on the use of 85 too.
    I use a 24-70 2.8 on a Nikon Z9 for most of my professional work but I always pack my D6 with a 85 1.8 in any kit, as it is still my favorite combo.

  • @tiborbogar7739
    @tiborbogar7739 19 дней назад

    Great video, very useful presentation. I like the simplicity, more like clarity of your videos. Thank you!

  • @xeentjelief
    @xeentjelief 25 дней назад

    I love my 85 as an all-round lens. It brings in just enough of the background to tell the story. You explain it just perfectly!
    My favourite headshot lens is a 135.
    I rarely use the 35 and 50. I could do with a 28 though!
    I do sometimes miss not being able to open up below 1.8. but it's a compromise I was willing to make to keep some money in my pocket

  • @dabistudio_japan
    @dabistudio_japan Месяц назад

    That is very nice advice! I used it many times in the same direction you did but now I feel encouraged to retake my lens and experiment with it. Thanks!

  • @christophsauer2857
    @christophsauer2857 Месяц назад

    Thank you, Sir, for such well and in-to-depth-explanation where someone really can learn something.

  • @oadefisayo
    @oadefisayo 2 месяца назад +2

    I'm primarily a studio portrait photographer and the 85mm is hands down my favorite lens to use

  • @313MICEWIGuy
    @313MICEWIGuy Месяц назад

    Excellent video. I used to use the 85mm f2 back in the film photo era all the time, and when I got back into photography earlier this year, I found myself not using it. But I knew I needed it, and needed to use it- I just didn't know how. In the film era, it was my documentary portrait go to. Now I'm shooting what I guess you would call "forgotten places" documentary photography, and the 85 f1.8 stayed in my bag all the time. But I just couldn't part with it because I knew the issue was me- not the lens. Thanks for giving me some things to think about. Next time I head out I may just take my EF 40mm f2.8 and the 85 and force myself to work differently. Where I shoot, there's no going back to grab the 35 and 50, LOL.

  • @greenmedic88
    @greenmedic88 2 месяца назад +4

    Love the 85mm; just cut back on its use as I noticed all my shots were looking like 85mm shots (imagine that); same compression, similar framing. All I need to do is step back into 35mm framing, close down another stop or two, and 85mm will probably feel fresh again.

  • @joopruck924
    @joopruck924 11 дней назад

    I bought the Canon 85mm f/1.8 recently and I'm very pleased with it. I almost never use the lens wide open, because, as a portrait photographer, I want both eyes in focus. And you're right about the background: you have to be careful, but what you'll get is amazing!

  • @paddywigglesworth7652
    @paddywigglesworth7652 Месяц назад

    Hello Martin, I trust you are well. Martin, last year I had a bang to my head and bizarrely I lost my memory and fell out of love with photography, due too memory loss I didn't realise I loved it prior. I have a Canon 70-200mm and a 24-105mm L series, I also own the 85mm f1.8. I adored B/W and I started to use both the L series lenses and couldn't quite understand why I like photography as I didn't feel anything to the images I had taken. I then used the 85mm lens and Boom!!! I had to restart thinking about composition and what I wanted in my frame and where I wanted to put it, I also had to rethink about the holy trinity of exposure, depth of field and ISO and I am loving all over again. Photography does allow a person to lose themselves, although I lost myself all of last year and half of this. Thank you for this video.

  • @Pressure_23
    @Pressure_23 Месяц назад

    Great timing for me, been thinking about what to do with the 85/1.8 on my shelf. Great video, punchy, gets straight to the point, loads of crunchy advice. Thank you.

  • @5hamo
    @5hamo 11 дней назад

    I have an 85 F2 and am very much considering getting a 85 F1.2 - I love the look of a 85!!! Was using the 85 F2 on a crop sensor camera but now also shoot the 85 F2 on full frame and am enjoying it even more.

    • @MartinCastein
      @MartinCastein  11 дней назад

      I think if 85mm is going to be your main lens then get the 1.2

  • @MindzEyz
    @MindzEyz Месяц назад

    Nice work! Very good points. What you are describing is exactly how I use my 135 f1.8 and even the 300 f2.8. I have been blowing the 85 backgrounds to smithereens though... I will consider this for 85 as well. Thanks.

  • @khanscombe619
    @khanscombe619 Месяц назад

    Put so well. My 1st Pro lens was the Nikkor 85/1.4D loved it & still use it. But lately, I been liking the depth of composition of the 180/2.8D. Focus w/ your feel & back the F-stop up. Hehe

  • @mart872uk
    @mart872uk Месяц назад

    I have taken a few amazing images with 85 mm. In a small flat with a 1.2 Canon 85 and wide open , a portrait shot with no depth of field yet the background played its part , shelves with a few out of focus items in the dreamy blur . The model being alternative look as well . The 75 mm Olympus as well . Amazing lenses . Thanks for your encouragement . Photography can get lonely at times.

  • @76steps
    @76steps 2 месяца назад +5

    Love 85mm. Great advice. Thanks again

  • @ApertureWalk
    @ApertureWalk 2 месяца назад

    My 85, 1.8 has been sitting idle. Thanks for this video, gonna take it out for a spin this weekend and the whole narrative on the background impact is spot on.

  • @legvalmont
    @legvalmont 27 дней назад

    This video's been enlightening. I used to have an 85mm and went street photographing one time. I remember it being flexible enough as well as respecting privacy of others. Im trying to get one for Canon FD now for my beloved AE-1 but might have to stick to Nikon's.

  • @DavidMiller-xw7jc
    @DavidMiller-xw7jc Месяц назад

    Great video, very thought provoking. I have the very wonderful Fuji GF 110 f2 (87mm equivalent) and you’ve made me realise that I only take the same head and shoulders pictures on it and there must be so much more to it than that! Your photos are amazing too. Liked and subscribed.

  • @DSG0805
    @DSG0805 Месяц назад

    Great video. Always had a thing for the 85mm lens. I had an old tank quality screw drive 85 1.4 for my Nikon dslrs but sold it on account of bad fringing wide open. However, when it worked, I loved it. Did some street photography with it too. Now I got back into the 85mm 1.8 on my ZF. I generally love having some distance so it just shines IMO

  • @tomjordan3367
    @tomjordan3367 Месяц назад

    I really appreciate your input on the importance of background elements when shooting with the 85mm lens. I have fallen into the trap of shooting wide open at f1.2 and completely blowing out the background on too many of my shots. I want to practice on getting that polished look with background elements that make the image tell a story. One thing I’ve noticed lately is I’m using my Canon RF 28-70 F2 lens much more than the 85mm f1.2 for its versatility in focal lengths without having to keep swapping lenses. That being said I can’t see myself ever getting rid of the 85mm f1.2. I do have a 135mm f2.0 and love the look of the images, but I find much of the time I don’t have enough distance to subject to use it much.

  • @DanielWOstler
    @DanielWOstler 4 дня назад +1

    I bought my first 35mm camera from a photojournalist. It came with a 105 mm lens because that was what he always used. As he handed it to me, he smiled and said: 'Take a couple of steps back'. That slight compression of the background made a world of difference once I took those steps. The start of my love affair with slightly long lenses.

  • @masanthar
    @masanthar Месяц назад

    Nice video, good to hear about paying attention to the backround elements (same as in your 50mm vid) as they can make or break the photo. As an amateurl shooter it is easy to get lost on the main subject and find out later the distractong elements in the composition.

  • @angelsjoker8190
    @angelsjoker8190 2 месяца назад

    3:32 super nice! Looks like a story inside a story with the background and the kids reading the book.
    Have my 56 1.4 on APS-C as my main lens, so basically running around with an 85er all the time. Thanks for the advice to pay more attention to the background!

  • @Reviews4fun1
    @Reviews4fun1 Месяц назад +1

    85 is magic and it’s unique. Like you said, most average phone snapshots are in the 24-28mm range but the telephoto give you a more unique look that most people can’t achieve. I find myself rarely using a 24-35mm range these days unless I’m indoors.

  • @georgedavall9449
    @georgedavall9449 2 месяца назад +1

    Another exceptional Video here Martin! Wonderful images!
    85 is quite a unique focal length, and one that many fail to exploit, not necessarily a fault of their own.
    Background can not be overstated enough, and I am glad You did. Anyone watching this take note of what Martin says, and be grateful for the ‘free’ sharing of his knowledge and experience! I’d give up a wisdom tooth or two to spend a day or so with Him myself! 😃
    I had great luck with my AF-D 85mm f/1.8 back in the day, shooting weddings on film. I used it for group shots, with great results. Stay safe and Happy Shooting! Please support this Man by liking and sharing!

    • @MartinCastein
      @MartinCastein  2 месяца назад +2

      thank you so much that is so kind! please dont try to send me your teeth, i dont want them hahahhaa, made me laugh!

    • @georgedavall9449
      @georgedavall9449 2 месяца назад

      @@MartinCastein Great reply Martin, and Thank You for that! You made me LAUGH!

  • @SubiTrekker
    @SubiTrekker 18 дней назад

    I used a 85/1.4 for candid wedding shots, usually with b&w film. These photos were always well received by my clients.

  • @reneweisz9157
    @reneweisz9157 Месяц назад

    Great video, the 1.8 will do everything I need. I have no need for a faster lens.

  • @jon4715
    @jon4715 Месяц назад

    Wonderful video, opinions on background, and photograph samples.

  • @tomrozsas
    @tomrozsas Месяц назад +1

    85mm lenses are among my favorites. Olympus also has a great 75mm (150mm equivalent). I loved that lense too. Used it for a wide variety of subjects.

  • @john-wiggains
    @john-wiggains Месяц назад

    Thank you for this video! I got an 85 equivalent for my micro four thirds and sometimes I feel lost how to use it. This is really helpful and showing your examples!!!

    • @lorenschwiderski
      @lorenschwiderski Месяц назад

      MFT will bring the background up nicely, and depending, of course, just how close you are to your subject have some isolation at f2, and pretty darn good in-focus by f4 or f5.6 when shooting street photography. If you want more detail to the background, and you are pretty close in on the subject you can go f8, but it is usually not required. Avoid going past f16 with MFT lenses, unless there is a special case for going so, such as sunburst-stars. The Olympus 45mm is inexpensive yet of good quality and will render you a 90mm FF field of view. The sharpest shots at center for the lens is at f5.6, with sharpest edge to edge being f8. Try F5.6 -- you'll like it, or if needing more light, then open up. And that f8 will give you a look more like a FF camera at f16 should the background need to revel what was going on. MFT is so forgiving, when looking to tell a story, front to back, with even f4 shots giving a whole story. Maybe give the shots a little extra room, should you want to crop say 8x12 prints or HD for your monitor. MFT for square image crops is great too! - Loren Schwiderski

  • @karenc2467
    @karenc2467 2 месяца назад

    I have the 1.8 and I’m going to use your suggestions today. Thank you - very interesting.

  • @Ham-yj1od
    @Ham-yj1od Месяц назад

    Your photos are so stunning Martin. Thank you for your informative videos and efforts you put in.

  • @kenn6592
    @kenn6592 2 месяца назад

    Despite having been taking photos for years this is one of the best education videos I have seen. Very insightful, with some inspirational photos too.
    Actually have an 85 Sigma 1.4 turning up for my A7rv tomorrow. Looking forward to seeing what I can do! Thanks for all the tips.

  • @onlysublime
    @onlysublime 2 месяца назад +1

    85 is by far my favorite. But when I'm doing weddings and events, what I do as my main setup is I have the 85 1.2 on one camera and the 28-70 2.0 on the other camera. Too many times you're caught in a situation where you don't have enough space so this allows me to not worry. I'll also have the 24 1.8 in my pocket when I do need wider as well as my 10-20 4.0 in my bag. I much prefer this over the 24-70 2.8 because 2.0 is twice the light and the look is so much nicer too.

  • @jdebultra
    @jdebultra 2 месяца назад +1

    So true, background. I use the 85 1.8 on my EOS 1 and the 5DC. On my F2, I use the 105 f2.5. I'm usually at f/2.2 and 2.8. For close up head shots, the original EF 100 f2.8 macro at F4 to f5.6. with the F2 head shots, 105 f2.8 macro.

  • @nutin321
    @nutin321 2 месяца назад +1

    What wonderful pictures. Would you be so kind as to do an edit tutorial on colorizing these autumn-colored pictures?

    • @MartinCastein
      @MartinCastein  2 месяца назад +1

      its actually in my workshop on my website www.martincastein.com but its paid im afraid.

  • @Samblack-n1j
    @Samblack-n1j Месяц назад

    Thanks mate! a very insightful take on 85mm! actually made me consider getting one! And the shots throughout the video are absolutely stunning!

  • @lauroralei
    @lauroralei 2 месяца назад

    One of the first lenses I bought in an early set up for my Canon 6D was a Sigma Art 85mm f1.4 - and I absolutely adore it and the pictures I get. Even surprisingly for landscapes.

  • @robertlayne8180
    @robertlayne8180 2 месяца назад +1

    . Great video. I love my 85 1.8 The photos of the children were very-very good. The low angle really framed well and gave a sense of porportion for the subjects. Perhaps a future video addressing camera angle for subjects.

    • @MartinCastein
      @MartinCastein  2 месяца назад +3

      thats crazy that you mention this, i was literally thinking about an hour ago, i wonder if anyone will comment or notice the low angle on the childrens photos and should i make a video about camera angle. thanks for commenting! and good for noticing.

    • @robertlayne8180
      @robertlayne8180 2 месяца назад

      @@MartinCastein I really liked the color/tone. . Color grading?

  • @julioyanez9665
    @julioyanez9665 Месяц назад

    I have and love an 85mm 1.2 but now i would be using it more. Great tips.

  • @spikeboydell
    @spikeboydell 2 месяца назад

    Thoughtful video Martin. I love my 85 EF L 1.4 on my 1DX2. It makes for the most striking ‘people in place’ imagery. I love it for video too, but with the 1.36 crop at 4K it can be harder to work with but always worth the effort.

  • @JLeoH
    @JLeoH 2 месяца назад

    Great video and incredibly useful insight into how versatile an 85mm lens can be!

  • @6rimR3ap3r
    @6rimR3ap3r Месяц назад +1

    85mm can be really versatile. After being super comfortable with 135mm in London I brought only 3 lenses to our second Tokyo vacation: 20-35 f/2.8, 85 f/1.2 and 135 f/2. As things happen the 135 needed repair and that could only be completed after the vacation... So I was "stuck" with the wide angle zoom and the 85 for the whole two weeks. The amount of lovely images taken with the 85 made me appreciate it a lot.

  • @scottlester8128
    @scottlester8128 2 месяца назад

    Love you pictures and editing, I just got a Jupiter 9, my wolf dog has been the subject so far, I’m enjoying using and learning about the 85mm

  • @henrysteadman963
    @henrysteadman963 2 месяца назад

    Just wanted to throw up some love for this presentation Martin, a really thoughtful and considered examination of the questions behind choice of focal length, aperture and the relationship of subject and backgrounds that I hadn’t really thought about in this way so thank you… I shall certainly check out your other episodes now as well :)🎉❤

  • @thealexestrada
    @thealexestrada 2 месяца назад

    Excellent presentation. You have inspired me to go shooting this weekend with my 85mm f1.8. It will be a challenge, but I hope to practice the points you made. Well done!

  • @berndmevers
    @berndmevers Месяц назад

    Very good content, on spot explanation of the key features of the 85mm-lens!

  • @mondohand71
    @mondohand71 2 месяца назад +1

    My 85 is one of my favorites for my landscapes. Definitely not the typical for landscape shots. But I love it . I use the canon EF 1.2

    • @MartinCastein
      @MartinCastein  2 месяца назад +1

      I like the sound of this I don’t suppose you have any examples online?

  • @andrefelixstudio2833
    @andrefelixstudio2833 Месяц назад +2

    When I was shooting for Penthouse® or Playboy® magazine I use a 85mm for most of my small camera (35mm) images it will give you a great looking image with good prospective!

    • @ChrisM-yq2pq
      @ChrisM-yq2pq Месяц назад

      Didn’t they use 4x5 at one point

  • @Leondrian
    @Leondrian 2 месяца назад

    Been shooting a long time on crop sensors and recently bought a FF Sony. Two days ago I brought my out 85f1.8 and man, that lens rocks. A usually don't shoot a the widest aperture even at 28, 35, 40 or 55mm and that made even more sense on the 85mm. Especially as how thin the plane of focus is on a FF. I took a lot of images of our greyhound mix and I had to stop down to at least 5.6 to get all of her face in focus. Even at full body distance. And as 85s usually renders lovely even stopped down it made I totally fell in love with that lens. I will try out even more and your advice makes a lot of sense to me. Thanks for the tip and make sure to use it wisely.

  • @kevincooper8666
    @kevincooper8666 2 месяца назад

    I've got 56mm 1.4 and a 85mm 1.8 on apsc thanks for your tip on how to make the most of them yes there is that tendency to go for the bokeh but your examples of background use demonstrated your point perfectly great photography thanks

  • @charleshodge1223
    @charleshodge1223 Месяц назад

    Great insight and very thoughtful assessment of 85mm. I have a 1.2 and I don't regret having the larger aperture for low light conditions. That said I have observed the same about using this focal length lens at 2.2 etc and not blurring the background entirely. Just hadn't reflected upon it as you have.

  • @Paul-vy1ev
    @Paul-vy1ev 2 месяца назад

    Brilliant video as always. Nikon 1.8g is my favourite portrait lens especially out side. It's Brilliant for autum portraits

  • @MikeLindup42
    @MikeLindup42 Месяц назад

    Very thought provoking. I have had 2 85mm lenses, one was an impulse buy (a manual 1.4), the other was a 1.8. I took a couple of nice portraits but found it limiting because I didn’t understand what I could do with it. I ended up selling both as they were just gathering dust. Your observations make a lot of sense - as I remember using the Canon nifty 50 1.8 on an APSC body (30D) years ago and enjoying composing at equivalent of 75mm a variety of subjects. Thanks for the video.

  • @terryscanlan6738
    @terryscanlan6738 2 месяца назад

    Just bought a 60mm f 2.0 to use on my crop sensor camera as a portrait lens. I can see I need to broaden my use case. Great video.

  • @takart
    @takart 2 месяца назад +1

    Thanks for making this video.
    TWO BIG things I learned today, from your video, are...
    ONE
    "I have to think more, about what things in the background / surroundings I want to include in the image".
    I must be more deliberate in both blocking and aperture setting.
    TWO
    I have been guilty, shooting wide open mindlessly. (Either I was trying to blur out everything other than the subject because I thought the surroundings were too ugly, or I did it simply because the lens (Vintage Canon FD85mmf1.2 -L) opens up to f1.2...pure laziness..)
    Well, I'm going to mount that 85mm now, and go out and shoot with these two things in mind!
    Thanks again.

    • @MartinCastein
      @MartinCastein  2 месяца назад +2

      I’m so pleased this was useful for you!