I am a broke hobbyist photographer and use what I have. Gear acquisition syndrome is real but I can’t feed that beast when my money pays for my needs and not my wants
I was in the same. But I'm too broken that I can't afford to have two systems, so I sold all my Nikon and now I only have Canon stuff. But I'm a bit of a hoarder type, I have more lenses and bodies than I really need.
He's right. I'm a Nikon guy, but when I had to use Canons for photojournalism, the Canon 6D MKI was my go to. Why? Because it was built like a tank and I didn't have to worry about missing a shot. I don't choose bodies anymore for the sensor. I grab for Nikon simply because I like the ergonomics better. Whatever makes the camera invisible to you and getting that shot is the best one for you. I'd like to say it rather bluntly: it's NOT about the camera. Once it is, you have already let the shot pass you by.
Absolutely agree on older gear. My favorite cameras are the 6D1 and the original 2012 Leica M Monochrom. I bought and sold the EOS R a few years back and bought and sold the then-new Leica M10 Monochrom. I also got rid of my zoom lenses some years ago and tend to shoot 90% of my images with either a 28mm or 50mm lens when shooting an event, or just a 35mm lens only for most travel. The only nod to modernity in my kit is the 5DSR body, which itself is now 9-years-old, mainly because at 50 megapixels I can slap on a 28mm or 35mm lens and use cropping instead of big slow and heavy telephoto or zoom lenses. Love your videos and will spend a day next weekend with just a 50mm lens on my 6D set to JPEG as you recommend in another video.
An absolute gem of a video, Martin. You really spoke from the heart. It is greatly appreciated.. You are 100% right in your philosophy of staying grounded. As new Gear comes out a lot of photographers do Lose some of the fundamentals. Thank you for sharing.
My nephew had a litle money and wanted to buy a camera. He had found a new superzoom but I suggested him to consider an older 5d instead. I helped him finding a dirt cheap one with a battered 24-105 lens and we picked it up at the seller. He has allready made a lot of great photos. And the good thing is, if he want to sell again he can get his money back.
I use two Canon 5DII 's all the time. It is not that stupid ;) I just know the quality of the photo's would not go upwards if you buyed newer gear. Better to invest in light I guess. Kudu's Great youtube-chanel
I walked the mountains of the UK in my youth. I was fortunate. I would strap my Pentax K1000 loaded with FP4 to my chest, set my aperture and grab shots as I went. I revisit those contact sheets sometimes and love that I caught moments in time that will never be repeated. That was my best photography moments.
Love photo walks and moments in time photos. I do a lot of that. Partly out of necessity I photograph the same subjects in different light, seasons, compositions but I never get bored bcs nature offers something different all the time. It has taught me to notice more even when I don't take photos...it has changed how I see the world.
I actually agree. I started photography as a teenager around the year 2005 with the Canon EOS 350D (DIGITAL REBEL XT in the US) but my dream back then was to buy the 5D classic. I remember being very frustrated not being able to afford it. I managed to buy a used one around 2006-7 and it changed my life as a photographer. It was my dream camera. I ended up using a bunch of different more modern cameras throughout the years. I got the 5D mark II, mark III, mark IV, then I went Sony and got their mirrorless bodies. Got an A7III, A7RIII and today I'm using an A7IV as my main camera. But despite having all that nice and performant gear, I'm still using my old 5D classic on a regular basis, especially for portrait (with glass I couldn't afford when I was a teen). It's the only digital camera that I've never sold. I sold my other 5D(II, III, IV), but not this one. I love its sensors, the colours, the way it renders skin, and the way it operates. The experience of using it manually, it's like driving a nice classic manual car. I'm also shooting film (I'm using a Nikon F3/Titanium with a nikkor-S auto 55mm 1.2) but the process is so expensive that I do it with moderation. The 5D classic is the only digital camera giving me a bit of the film experience without going broke. I really enjoy it. Still my dream camera somehow !
I turned off the back display to get that analog feeling ;) Funny seeing you had the same start as I did, I just never felt the need to buy the mark II, etc. I just got another 5d and great glass. I just now bought the 6d for equivalent of 400 usd. I've been thinking about the 5d mark II though, but I hate that they "moved" the wheel for changing your iso (you can't use the back wheel while shooting in manual mode). What did you think of the workflow and its colours?
I recently sold off my RF 70-200 F2.8L, RF 24-70 F2.8L, RF 16, RF 35, and RF 50 1.8 because I picked up a 6D to use as a sort of beater camera next to my R6 and it made me fall in love with the feeling of the older canon stuff (which I started on a decade back)... I kept my R6 because sometimes I need a flippy screen for RUclips videos, but I also ended up getting a 5D classic (thanks in part to your videos) as well as a handful of older EF lenses (17-40 F4L, 40mm pancake, little plastic nifty fifty, 85mm F1.8, 100mm F2, and a Tamron 70-210 F4)… the easier it became to grab a technically perfect photo the less fun it became to shoot, I started feeling like my R6 was similar to shooting with my phone, very user friendly automation and (especially with the RF 16mm F2.8) the in-camera corrections felt a lot like computational photography. Huge disconnection from the process, also the newer gear tries so hard to correct for imperfections that everything feels sterile and clinical
Martin Firstly you images are awesome, secondly it's so refreshing and helpful to me and many others ...to have your very straight to the point, honest & genuine point of view. I go stung by that New is Best thought and it caused me so much trouble... I got so fed up with way to much setting and adjusting...that I sold it all and stopped photography. But your RUclips's are so helpful.. I bought a 5d's mk2 and a 50mm 1.4 .. And I'm back to being a photographer and enjoying my photography... I truly have to say Thankyou 👍
I picked up my first 5D classic about 6 years ago, I own 3 of them now. I am convinced I will never need another camera. I never want to not have one. There’s just something about it.
I totally concur. I’m reminded of something I recently heard/read: “Equipment is great; you just need to be, too.” For me, it’s the Nikon D700 that I love, but couldn’t use it for the demands of my current paid work, specifically in terms of fast focus acquisition, low light performance, and totally silent operation.
This channel is such a breath of fresh air amongst other photography channels. Honest opinions and nicely paced. Looking forward to seeing more brilliant content and great idea for the hashtag!
Martin, I recently ventured out on a professional tour, (DC photo Safari) thinking I would gain a deeper understanding of the fundamentals. The pro stated I needed to upgrade to mirrorless from my Pentax dslr because it's "better." I took the photo of my life that day but realized it was simply the time of day and knowing where to stand to best capture the photo. Pentax opted out of the mirrorless transition, and I couldn't be more satisfied!
100% - I took a Nikon D50 and a poorly rated tamron lens on a trip around Connemara in Ireland last week and had an absolute blast with it. Loved the images, some of my favourites of the year. No cropping, working within the limits was really liberating. New to the channel and looking forward to seeing more !
Some people say that Tamron is not good, but some say that is still enough. It's a cheap lens with great f-stop and good quality. Do you use f2.8 Tamron?
I think it’s a valid point of view. The idea and how to communicate it must always be the most important. I read the comments and everyone seems to have like the older tech because it makes them participate. For me I always used cameras in manual mode weather old or new. I like later tech better though, better sensors and AF, focus peaking, optical and sensor stabilization. Personally I see no conflict, I’m always aware when I create, but that’s me. I think if one does things with a purpose one is more aware, the tools matter less.
Interesting video with points well made. I love older gear, it keeps my very grounded. Using older gear you quickly realise you don’t need as much ISO as you think you do, or as manufacturers will tell you you need. The best decision I ever made was buying a Leica M9 and I haven’t looked back. It’s so refreshingly simple to use. I’ve never owned Canon and I have been considering the 5D Classic as they can be had so cheap and this lead me to this channel. Great photos too.
100% agree. After a long time of approaching photography from a solely technical angle, a few years ago I started embracing the art of it and I'm not only much happier doing it, my images have improved as a result. One of my favourite combos I own is the Canon 6D and Helios 44m. Great video, Martin.
Love this message! I hate how brands and "youtubers" keep pushing new gear. It's like relationships and marriages nowadays: if things get rocky, toss it and get a new one... LOL. This analogy actually feels just like marketing today. I enjoy using what I currently have now. I'm not sure if Canon is doing it with their new cameras but I know for sure that Sony does that, unfortunately. I'm glad I'm subscribed. Keep up the good messages.
I own a Canon 5D classic and Canon R5. 5D classic can give you great pictures because it was made just for taking pictures. The R5 can give you more than just photography. They both give me what I want and I love both my cameras. 😊
Hi Martin, just found you a couple of days ago. I sold my mamiya c330f, it was my wedding shoot camera, to buy the Canon 5dII! Still gut wrenching, as the cost of production went up and up. But I loved the Canon. That was 2011. In 2014 I upgraded to the mark iii. It's been my work horse ever since, still use it for all comercial work. However, I much prefer the MkII for video with Magic lantern software. So, after thinking about the R6 as an upgrade, I realised, after watching your channel, that the solution was another mkII. Just ordred one! I also use back button focus for stills, and use older manual Nikkor lenses for video, no need for auto focus hocus pocus!
Love this. I actually am selling my a7iv in favour of a 1DX for the sake of getting back to basics and finding my joy in taking the photograph again. I realised that I had inadvertently strayed from what made me love shooting in favour of tech that I thought I needed for work, when in reality, the quality of work ended up suffering... so I'm back to the older bodies for some time, while I navigate that!
I find the content of this video very interesting. After many years of just being interested in photography recently I have decided to take it more seriously as a hobby. I decided that I would invest in a decent camera and some lenses that were second hand. I bought a Canon 5D ii and a 24-105 plus 17-40 as well as a new nifty fifty which has set me up nicely. The reasons for going for the older gear for me were primarily based on cost as I didn’t have a lot of money to spend on my hobby also I realised that I could buy equipment that not too many years ago was state of the art. I have definitely found that learning to use a more basic and older camera body is making me be aware of the fundamentals of photography without which I don’t think I would have the understanding of how everything works ie light, aperture, iso. Photography is definitely more than the final image, it’s about the journey to get to that image like location camera and lens set up etc and an understanding of how the camera has managed to do it. I have still got a great deal to learn as I start dipping my toe into the world of photography but I definitely feel it’s most advantageous to understand the fundamentals so that you can build on them. Alternatively I could just use my phone camera but for me that just doesn’t cut the mustard!! Please keep the videos coming they are great. Cheers John
D50, D80, D200, D300, D700. AF, Af-S, DX. FX. +10 Pentax film ... (ME, SuperA, Spotmatic, etc) Vintage Takumar, Makinon, Sigma, M42, PK, F. 10mm - 600mm. Prime and Zoom. All of it is better at taking pitchers than I am, so I'm good. Lot's of room for learning! Great Video, thanks! There's the hobby (or profession) of Photography. And then there's the separate hobby of Photography Gear. Both are fun, and certainly are related, but maybe not the same thing.
I've used Nikons for years and I had plenty of gear and I just unloaded a lot of it. I recently bought a Fuji XT-5 and I love it. Simple dials, lightweight, and a joy to use. However, I did keep my D3s and my D700 and still enjoy using them. I truly enjoy your videos because they are so sensible and grounded. Light and composition and heart are what it's all about
Hi Martin, watching this video I felt that you were talking directly to members of the choir. This member, after being away for more years than I'd like to admit, has gotten back into photography. Not sure where to start I went with a new Sony mirrorless camera and was frustrated with it's complexity and longed for the simplicity of my old Pentax film camera. After searching some RUclips channels that covered older cameras I purchased a Canon 40D and a Pentax K10. Their 'limitations' help me focus on getting the image I am after and their colors are wonderful. And because of them, my use of the Sony and my phone have improved. I like the idea of having a place to show what these "old" gems can do.
Martin, you are spot on. I've never thought it was the camera. It is the lenses. They are what change the perspective, and to know which lens to use in a given situation is the art and science of photography. It doesn't matter whether you are projecting the image onto a piece of film or a sensor, the quality of the image primarily depends on the perspective chosen by the photographer.
Totally agree. I shoot weddings with 2x Nikon D4 and a D700 as a spare. 12 and 16 megapixels is all you need and these cameras have never ever let me down in 6 years. Tried mirror less and it felt like using a calculator. I'll keep it old school like many other pros out there!
Totally understand. For my event work, I use a D3 and a D4. Love those cameras, I'll never part with them. Why play into the unending cycle manufacturers want us to do. Use your gear and develop your craft.
Agree 100%. Just bought a 40d, which was my first “real” dslr. Actually my first dslr was a Rebel XT, which I also just purchased 2 for my daughters to learn on. The reason was to slow them and myself down and not rely on tech.
I enjoy my Nikon D3, D700 and D300 cameras. I use primarily Nikkor AIS lenses with them and couldnt be happier. I also shoot film, but these are my digital choices. Life is good 👍🙏
100% agree with this. I learned my trade on the 5Dmkii. I still have it and run it alongside my R5. Yes the R5 gives me some more features, but for true photography I still love the 5D.
I force myself to use one lens, then I go walk around. I do that with my Nikon D700 and have done this with variety of lenses. This includes the 28mm f/2.8, 50mm f/1.4, 85mm f/1.8, 135mm f/2, 180mm f/2.8, and even a 200mm f/4. I understand completely where Martin is coming from, and agree that everyone should perform this exercise regularly. I only use a Nikon D700 and a D800, more than 10 years old!
Perfectly agree with you. That's why I use mostly film, still. Ok, I'm not a pro or I'd be dead by now :) But I like to see how I still manage to get what I want by my understanding of the process, not camera miracles. And that, I believe, is the problem of old gear for modern photographers. Miracles happen more easily with newer gear. Not to mention AI on newer software. I'm old school and I like it. Have my darkroom, my Nikon f2A, F100, a Rolleiflex and a Roller 35 and a 35S. Love them. Love my mistakes and good ones. And concerning Digital, my camera is a D700. Wouldn't change it for any newer for many reasons - most you've already put on a video. Thanks for the video, really like your approach to photography. All the best!
I start my photography hobby with new Nikon D80 back in the 2007, year after purchase new Nikon D200. Now i have only old DSLR both Canon and Nikon. For me it's so simple, so much love good old machine. Full MG body, no plastic. Build to last forever i think. Great channel, great content.
I’ve been a photographer for 15 years. Just bought a nice, used Nikon 750 and it is amazing. At the height of the DSLR era, these cameras were ready for business. Is it the latest and greatest? No… but my clients don’t care about what gear I have. They care about the results. Probably gonna buy another one soon.
I love this video. I had to switch between 10 different cameras to finally figure out what I wanted. Most of them have been 10 plus year old CCD sensor cameras. I've heard some people say that a camera is just a tool. I tend to agree
My current Nikon bodies in order, D80, D200, D700, D7100, D610 ,D500, D850, D780, Yeah, no Nikon mirrorless. Still waiting on something that will make me move that direction.
That hashtag idea would be great. I definitely would take part in that. I am currently using a Canon 5D classic with a Pentax 28mm f3.5 SMC Takumar on the side with my "modern" camera being the Fujifilm X-T2. It's so refreshing using older gear.
I shoot a wide variety of stuff. I junked the Canon R6 because there were so many complications in the way of the shot. If I only photographed birds or weddings it would be perfect but I don’t. So while janking around between remembering which AF mode was the right one I spent more time in the mens than I did taking pictures. The stress. The lost footage. The unusable footage. Going back to the 5D Mark II is so refreshing. Aim, focus, shoot. How many photos do you need? Video I shoot hand held on the 6k Blackmagic and yes it is all manual focus and it is a dream to use. No hunting, no useless footage, no complications and I am so much more involved in the scene. I can nail focus in moments and easily follow the action and if I over shoot the focus it looks totally natural and is still usable.
Martin, I just recently found your videos and your practical and common sense approach is very refreshing. I love that your focus is on the art of photography vs just technical tips. I shoot Canon mirrorless bodies for events and portraiture (my work cameras) but use my 5D mkiii for fun and then I have Nikon F3 and FM2 film bodies to really go back to basics and stay grounded. Thanks for putting out such interesting content and look forward to more videos,
Hi Martin, I like your idea of using older gear, and to some extent promoting older gear. I have both "newer" gear (D4s / D800e / D610) as well as "older" gear (D3 / D3s / D700). I tell anyone who would listen that a D3 (which is ~14 years old now) produces stunning pictures. For some reason people are shocked when they see the picture that they like, ask me what did I use and then ask me again when I'm telling them that it was made on a 12Mp camera from 2008. In fact, if I simply take the kids for a walk and I'm grabbing a "just in case" camera it is nearly always a D3 + 85/1.4D -- both are probably considered 'dinosaurs' by the marketing departments, but this combo produces outstanding photographs. (And a D4s and a D800e which both on paper must be superior to a D3 are on a same shelf -- however, I naturally gravitate to a D3). Keep up the good work! Cheers from Canada! --Roman
I got myself a D810 with a 70-200/f4 and the 24-85 recently for landscapes and couldn't be happier! It does everything I need and a lot more, tons of affordable glass and I still don't think you can beat an optical viewfinder. The whole kit was under £1200. I did look into mirrorless offerings but I didn't like the battery life or the fact that many didn't even come with two card slots not to mention the price.
Even when shooting a zoom lens for urban photography, I usually just leave it at the 23mm (cropped) setting and still 'zoom with my feet'. I did that with my Fuji XT20 and kit lens. for an entire trip to Havana, I left it on 23mm and never bothered to touch the ring. Liberating.
Thank you for the review, I am a beginner and earlier this year I bought my forst camera, a second hand Canon SX50HS to start taking photos and have loved the learning curve. The 6D is my target as my first DSLR to continue the adventure, many thanks.
I think learning on an old camera is the best way to learn! Plus, it actually makes photography affordable :) I don't see any need to buy a fancy camera. My 40D does what I need. Though, I have to admit I've been eyeing an older full frame camera for the future. I love your idea about having a hashtag of pictures shot on older cameras!
Okay, you've won me over. It's not just because your preaching to the choir, and I like to hear people spout ideals I believe in - to prove I'm right. It's because It's a position I've come to through experience in several other venues.. Quick example: In dance, many advanced dancers look to improve their basic techniques, while most beginners are looking for the latest thing or more complicated (or "cooler") choreography. Most everyone goes through this, so there's nothing wrong here. The point is that as you mature, and strive to improve, you realize that it's your foundation in fundamentals that will expedite your growth. You start this video out on just that premise and thank you. In the two videos I've seen so far from you, you make very valid and useful points. Thank you, Martin. I'm sure I will have more to say in one of your other videos. One minor point: (and before I go there, I know what you're saying). I'm a beginner photographer - 4 to 5 years now - and it's my hobby. I just finished speaking with Jeff Cable (official photographer of the US Olympic Hockey team) and he principally uses zooms for the sports he shoots. Point is, certain types of shooting do not lend themselves to zooming with your feet. I know you know this, but wanted to bring it up as a counter point to the "lazy" argument. That said, your point is very relevant to a discussion. One last thing, THANK YOU SO MUCH for showing your work during your conversation! Love the comment about "if you're worried about hyperfocal distance etc." you're doing physics, but that's not photography. Fist camera was a D700 a few years ago - and I take it out once a week. I get it.
yes i agree with you on the zoom thing too, i think the difference is that a zoom can make you lazy but doesnt have to, plus for things like landscape a zoom is just much more practical too. I use zooms a lot too. I think my point is just that people learn better on primes for the most part but depends.
@@MartinCastein I've just watched 2 more of your Canon (photography) videos - you almost had me going out and buying the Canon 6D ;-) As I mentioned previously, I love where you are coming from with all your videos. You are trying to provide your opinion on what you see in the camera benefits and limitations in a way I have not heard others do before. Your not selling things (presets, links, etc) and that leaves your channel with some feeling of value of another kind. As a "novice" photographer, I try to spend as much time shooting as I can and learning from what I've done (about my camera and subject). Your videos provide a nice balance of "the lay of the land" or where things evolved from and to, and the changes along the way. Why some cameras have a certain look. Interesting historically. Thanks again. I love seeing your work. Thanks for showing on most of your videos.
I admit I'm a collector with gasititius maximus. Had been buying the latest and greatest (ehem) new mirrorless of different brands, then after preordering the Lumix S5 IIx due out in May, I finally had a worthwhile rethink. With the heart-to-self realization that I enjoy collecting and playing with equipment, I decided to cancel the preorder look at old equipment. For the same cost of that S5 IIx, I realized I could get a whole bunch of old bodies to play around with (well, unless going crazy like I did). And since I already owned a perfectly worthwhile S5, did I really need the S5 IIx? Since then, I've purchased not one, but 2 classic 5Ds, an EOS 1Ds Mark II, then with a kick of nostalgia, the EOS 1Ds classic (11 megapixel) that I used during the twilight of my pro photography days back around 2002-03. And just for kicks, I got a film EOS 1n, but then had to get the 1v since that's hailed as one of the best film cameras ever made. But I wasn't done. My final piece was the 6D original, in like new condition--in large part due to your praise of it. Even picked up a couple old 50mm lenses; the Canon F1.8 to go alongside my F1.4 I've owned forever, and a Zeiss ZE classic to go with the other all metal ZE classics in my collection. Lessons learned? Getting the old equipment and playing around with it makes new cameras look a lot more expensive. Hugely more expensive. The newer stuff I have (R5, S1h, Sony A74, & S5), are all so capable compared to the older stuff, I can't imagine ever plunking down a fortune on a new body again. I now see the Canon R5 as an "own forever" camera. While working pro, I never cared about equipment. I was so burned out after shooting 1500 weddings on film (give or take), that I didn't even want to look at a camera again. I cringed when friends and family requested me volunteer services. After getting over burnout (took more than 10 years), I'm enjoying collecting in a way never before, and with old equipment, I'm brought back to the older, slower way of making pics from the past, particularly with manual focus. In fact, I've always hated autofocus until recently, in large part because I never (to this day) learned how to use it properly. So, with the old cameras, I enjoy using manual focus lenses... though I hate the limited selection of focusing screen options today. I still like mirrorless, and find the EVFs a godsend for critical manual focus (focus magnifier in particular). But when I'm going out on a family event, I'll rely on the Sony A74 in fully auto mode, and let the autofocus thing do what it wants while enjoying the point and click experience. I.e., two completely different applications... enjoying the process of photography vs. creating personal images (candid snapshots) for posterity. I'm looking forward to comparing and contrasting the old vs. the old, and old vs. the new someday. I've been intrigued by the EOS 1Ds Mark II as a higher megapixel version of the 5D classic, but little is out there in the way of comparison. And as for the 1Ds classic, there are those who like the 11mp sensor above all others, though it's quite limited on DR and requires paying attention to achieve good results. All in good fun... all in good fun. 😎
Great video… I am using my Canon Rebel SXi also known as 450D that I purchased in 2008 … I have newer camera but I keep coming back to this camera. Your videos are helping me to develop my skills and not getting caught in the gear obsession. I will get new gear at some point but I will never get rid of this camera… thanks!!!
I bought an S1R in 2024. To me it's more than I'll use but I really enjoy using it with manual focus lenses as well as autofocus. I got older sigma super classics hsm 28+40mm 1.4, voigtlander app lanthar 50mm and an 85mm otus. I used to use medium and large format mostly so I like the slow methodology and hyper realism. I also got an 8 year old Hasselblad X1D. These will last me a long time and I doubt I will buy anything else for many years. Maybe a lens. I have an incredible kit for far less.
Hi Martin, Just wanted to say it's really refreshing to see someone challenge some of these preconceived ideas about photography. Whilst there is nothing new in the photo industry selling the lie that the 'latest and greatest' gear will magically turn anyone into a great photographer, it has become a particularly accute disease in the digital era. A few years back, I used to teach photography in an adult education establishment, and the number of times I'd get asked what was the best camera. In the end, I'd usually repeat something I'd heard from another photographer friend of mine - it's the one you've got with you at the time! I wasn't being flippant - at the end of the day the gear, whatever you've got, is just a tool to express an idea, tell a story in visually terms. The great photographer produces a wonderful image from a camera just as much as a great violinist produces wonderful music from their violin. A violin is essentially fairly straight forward i terms of how it produces sound, but it's the skill of the player that produces something meaningful. Equally, someone with even a simple camera, who knows what they are doing, it's limitations and has developed an eye for visual composition, can produce an aesthetically pleasing image. All the advanced technology does is make it easier, for those who know what their doing to produce those images technically. I'm going to shut up now. I've mixed too many metaphors in this rant. Thanks again!
I shoot handheld using my second hand Canon 5D MKIII and a 50mm prime f1.8 STM lens that I bought new. I love my camera and enjoy getting out and shooting images. I totally agree with your comment about not standing in one space. I am always moving about when shooting. I think of it as always looking for interesting camera angles. I will often contort myself into strange shapes in order to get the shot I want. Yes, my 28-135mm Canon zoom is very convenient and does get used sometimes but I like the consistency that I get from sticking to one focal length.
No issues from me, a camera is a camera, it is just a tool to capture a moment in time that we have created, my newest camera is over 4 years old, I see no reason to upgrade to anything newer for the foreseeable future. I'm quite happy with my gear that ranges from 2018 all the way back to 1980, it's mainly Nikon based and allows me to use lenses from way back when on modern bodies, which is great. As an ex Canon shooter I might have a look at a 5D in some variant, I never owned one so it would be good to revisit my Canon days and have a look. Nice video and good sound advice, thanks.
You sir, are a breath of fresh air. I just found your channel in my search for information on older canon gear. I actually bought a 5D ii and 50mm f/1.8 ii this afternoon. While I have gotten some good photos out of mirrorless gear, I absolutely don’t like the process. With mirrorless gear the chance of failure is really small. There is something about older gear that forces a sense of slowing down and paying attention to detail that strengthens my power of observation. Photography is way more enjoyable when I’m using ND grads and waiting on light than futzing with some luminosity mask and figuring out who’s photoshop actions I should be using. I’m looking forward to your insights in future videos. Subscribed.
100% with you. For me it feels more rewarding to achieve the desired results using my old gear, whereas it always like that the camera and the software did the work with the modern mirrorless.
I love having my older Canon gear alongside my newer Sony stuff. I totally agree that shooting more frequently with my ‘old’ gear keeps me more engaged and consequently I get better results out of any gear. Like the concept of an older camera hashtag. Great content per usual!
That's why I like my 6 megapixel CCD Pentax cameras one from 2005 *istDL and my Pentax K100D from 2006. I bought both cameras new and have used them ever since. With modern photo editing software the pictures look as good
What a great idea. Especially since my newest camera is already 14 years old. I just can;t justify the outlay for anything newer at the moment. 30D with an old plastic fantastic 50mm f1.8 ii.
So refreshing to hear this take. I shoot with multiple older bodies from different systems. And it's all about playing to the strengths of each camera. To this day, I still use a Pentax K10-D and it regularly produces unrivaled images.
The only caveat I'd add with older gear is lack of dynamic range. This isn't an issue in studio and modern software can recover shadows successfully. Highlights are another matter, and on my 5D when skies were blown they stayed blown, so careful metering is essential. I still use a 11 year old Fuji X-Pro1 and a little Canon 100D and Lumix GF3 for walkaround stuff.
I find myself agreeing completely with your points on this one. Photography is the art of composition, which includes using the camera parameters how you see fit. Your pet hate of photographers standing still for long periods really hit home, I'm more like you and enjoy bopping about and looking at new angles or different perspectives. I've just managed to snag a cheap 5D classic online, looking forward to trying it out.
I love your photos. They are very beautiful. As an amateur I only have economic to buy the old cameras, you are referring to. So for me there’s no choice. But you are correct, I don’t miss anything. Thanks for you!
You're absolutely right about using 'old' and 'bad' camera gear. It's why I now only follow your channel and a few that shoot exclusively on film. That's it. Sick of the rest.
Great video Martin! I bought a 6d new back in 2018 and then earlier this year bought a 5d3. They are both awesome cameras. I do gravitate to the 5 if I’m just using one body on a shoot because I think the images are slightly better but I have no plans to pick up equipment R models anytime soon. I have just this week bought an EOS M3 purely for fun and to have something I can pocket easily. I am very grateful to all the togs who have upgraded and provide such a good supply to the second hand market!
I have the 5D and 6D. I pretty much Takumar lenses on them. Loads of fun. I do have some EF lenses too as they are also nice but a Takumar 300mm and 400mm are surprisingly good. Even my Takumar 200mm delivers the goods.
Some great insights Martin. I use a phone camera, a Nikon D200, an old Em and FE, a practice B1 and an uber cheap110 camera. I use them all in equal measure - or thereabouts. They all have their own character. To be honest, when my images are shown online (or printed out for that matter) there are very few people who can separate what 'quality' camera each image was taken on. To say there are good and bad cameras is a complete fallacy. A good (enthusiastic/artistically minded) photographer, can get a good image regardless of what he uses.
I totally agree Martin. I have several Nikon camera’s including the D850. I find however that I’ll reach for the D700 or the Fm2. Same with lenses, I have the newer ones but I like the older classic Nikon 180d or the 135dc. I think among my favorites is the Voigtlander 58mm 1.4 Nokton.
I bought a 2nd hand Nikon Z fc for a back to the future experience. Shooting in manual mode takes me back. It sits alongside my D3, D700, D750 etc. The location, composition and lighting doesn’t care what I’ve got in my hands. The Zfc and kit lenses will be welcome when I fly again as they are so light.
Well said Martin and I couldn't agree more. Creating compelling images is not about tracking autofocus performance, frames per second and having 50 or more megapixels. My experience shooting film and older DSLR cameras has been so beneficial in finding the light, composition and in capturing those fleeting moments of beauty.
Only recently discovered this channel, and I very much agree with the message. I have 4 cameras that I frequently use, and only one of them is a recent one. 3 of my 4 Nikons are all old DSLRs. I started with the D70s, but don't use it anymore. Then came the D300 and the D700, which I used the most and still use for serious photography. Being in need of a walk-around and street camera I then purchased the Z fc. But honestly, I like the images of my older Nikons much better. So my last purchase was a D200 to have a CCD sensor camera again, and I am more than pleased with the photos I can take with it.
I love cameras with old sensors, their output looks more natural and organic compared to newer sensors which are too clinical and lacks character. Years ago, I got hooked on Carl Zeiss lenses for their 3D pop and unique rendering. I enjoyed using them with my 5D Classic and 6D. I find the 5D great for portraiture, skin tones look creamy and have better texture. Compared to the 5D, the 6D files look sharper and less film-like. With plenty of light, I still prefer the output from the 5D. A few years ago, I sold both cameras and was planning to go mirrorless but I find them too complex with features that distracts from the shooting experience. I decided to re-acquire my old gear and was lucky enough to find both in mint condition with very little use for about $500 total. I plan to keep them for good.
Ive been traped in your videos for about an hour. I love the message you put across. Reason ik writing this in this very video is because 5 years ago I found a cheap Canon AE-1 and a cheap 50 1.4 whillst travelling with a 5D3 and three primes. While i did get an f4 zoom for the ae1, going film and fifty was a game changer for me. You see, now i got 36 exposures and that's it. So i started thinking more about what i wanted to shoot, obviously not spraying and praying and finally enjoying the trip more, which circled back beautifully. I always thought photography is like poetry written with light and your quoting Mr Myagi feels relatable. So thanks for the channel, the message and all. PS i wanna try some double exposure landscapes on film to toy with dynamic range, not sure how it'll end up like, looking forward to it
Most YT photographers want to sell you Cameras, or raise interest by using that new top of the line gear that, really, has a minimal impact on the image you take. Keep doing your stuff and teach people how an image is taken!
A flip-side on zooms - efficiency. I can pack as much movement into a photo-romp using zooms as anyone with primes, but I get far more opportunities to shoot (do photography) and I get to shoot things that are impossible with primes because the physical position is unattainable. I'm also able to respond rapidly to changing conditions, and I get less time sitting at a computer cropping because I can frame accurately, and I don't degrade the image's potential by throwing half of it away. Maybe some people are just lazy, but that's not the fault of zoom lenses. Where I do pack my bigger primes it's because I already know the shot i'm after and exactly where I'm going to park myself, or because my subjects are never going to come close to filling the frame and/or TC's are called for. So, that's my call for fairly energetic landscape / environmental work. With that said - really good vid. The IG thing would be a lot of fun - I could post my time-lapse of landscape photographers 'in action' that you got me thinking about. All the best from a swamp in New Zealand.
I love what you are saying. It is so refreshing and true. I have a photography book by Clive Nichols who does garden photography for a living. He had images from film cameras and a Canon 1DS mark II and the quality is fantastic. It is a great reminder of how good cameras and lenses were back in 2007 and some of those photos were from the beginning of his career fifteen years earlier. Clive’s understanding of how the cameras worked and his knowledge, creativity and skill were key to his beautiful photographs.
I'm not a pro, just a photography hobbyist that started 2.5 years ago, but what you're saying is exactly what I like about the Nikon FM3A and Mamiya M645 in film. These machines only have a few buttons and a handful of functions, nothing that is not absolutely necessary, and what it does is only just about the exposure triangle, nothing more. Through this I learned to understand and optimally use exposure fairly quickly. Combined with some affordable but high quality primes from the 70s and 80s, I could just focus on the image to take and think about the important stuff: perspective, composition, texture, colour, etc. No menus, funky options, HDR, etc. to distract. With film the only big downside is not having immediate feedback (first devving myself etc.), however, I did learn to trust my choices and to accept failure as a moment to learn... This does benefit how I use digital cameras (e.g. my D810): make a photo and immediately on to try another one instead of looking at a screen and missing a moment.
Im about to buy my very first dslr, a nikon d5300, and this channel has really inspired me to do so, its honest, humble, and relays on the purity of skill. Vs buying into a hobby or skill. thank you, im now a subscriber
For me it is simple,i can not afford expensive new gear so i use old bangers : 5D Classic,50D,Nikon D300 and i love it and never complain.
As a primarily film photographer, the 5D and 5D M2 produce the most pleasant files, IMO.
Old bangers can do fabulous jobs + quality workmanship... cameras have not suddenly gone bad or have an expiry date LOL
I am a broke hobbyist photographer and use what I have. Gear acquisition syndrome is real but I can’t feed that beast when my money pays for my needs and not my wants
Old gear = compliments to photographers.
New expensive gear = compliments to the gear 😂😂😂
I was in the same. But I'm too broken that I can't afford to have two systems, so I sold all my Nikon and now I only have Canon stuff. But I'm a bit of a hoarder type, I have more lenses and bodies than I really need.
He's right. I'm a Nikon guy, but when I had to use Canons for photojournalism, the Canon 6D MKI was my go to. Why? Because it was built like a tank and I didn't have to worry about missing a shot. I don't choose bodies anymore for the sensor. I grab for Nikon simply because I like the ergonomics better. Whatever makes the camera invisible to you and getting that shot is the best one for you. I'd like to say it rather bluntly: it's NOT about the camera. Once it is, you have already let the shot pass you by.
Yes…I love my 6D…it comes through every time!
Your videos are like a break in time. They offer a beautiful, peaceful moment to share and enjoy photography.
Jonathan, thank you! Im glad you like it, i nearly didnt make this video because I thought no one would like it, really.
Absolutely agree on older gear. My favorite cameras are the 6D1 and the original 2012 Leica M Monochrom. I bought and sold the EOS R a few years back and bought and sold the then-new Leica M10 Monochrom. I also got rid of my zoom lenses some years ago and tend to shoot 90% of my images with either a 28mm or 50mm lens when shooting an event, or just a 35mm lens only for most travel.
The only nod to modernity in my kit is the 5DSR body, which itself is now 9-years-old, mainly because at 50 megapixels I can slap on a 28mm or 35mm lens and use cropping instead of big slow and heavy telephoto or zoom lenses.
Love your videos and will spend a day next weekend with just a 50mm lens on my 6D set to JPEG as you recommend in another video.
An absolute gem of a video, Martin. You really spoke from the heart. It is greatly appreciated.. You are 100% right in your philosophy of staying grounded. As new Gear comes out a lot of photographers do Lose some of the fundamentals. Thank you for sharing.
Hey, Don hope you are well mate. Glad you like the videos!
My nephew had a litle money and wanted to buy a camera. He had found a new superzoom but I suggested him to consider an older 5d instead. I helped him finding a dirt cheap one with a battered 24-105 lens and we picked it up at the seller. He has allready made a lot of great photos. And the good thing is, if he want to sell again he can get his money back.
I use two Canon 5DII 's all the time. It is not that stupid ;) I just know the quality of the photo's would not go upwards if you buyed newer gear. Better to invest in light I guess. Kudu's Great youtube-chanel
I walked the mountains of the UK in my youth. I was fortunate. I would strap my Pentax K1000 loaded with FP4 to my chest, set my aperture and grab shots as I went. I revisit those contact sheets sometimes and love that I caught moments in time that will never be repeated. That was my best photography moments.
Love photo walks and moments in time photos. I do a lot of that. Partly out of necessity I photograph the same subjects in different light, seasons, compositions but I never get bored bcs nature offers something different all the time. It has taught me to notice more even when I don't take photos...it has changed how I see the world.
I actually agree. I started photography as a teenager around the year 2005 with the Canon EOS 350D (DIGITAL REBEL XT in the US) but my dream back then was to buy the 5D classic. I remember being very frustrated not being able to afford it. I managed to buy a used one around 2006-7 and it changed my life as a photographer. It was my dream camera. I ended up using a bunch of different more modern cameras throughout the years. I got the 5D mark II, mark III, mark IV, then I went Sony and got their mirrorless bodies. Got an A7III, A7RIII and today I'm using an A7IV as my main camera. But despite having all that nice and performant gear, I'm still using my old 5D classic on a regular basis, especially for portrait (with glass I couldn't afford when I was a teen). It's the only digital camera that I've never sold. I sold my other 5D(II, III, IV), but not this one. I love its sensors, the colours, the way it renders skin, and the way it operates. The experience of using it manually, it's like driving a nice classic manual car. I'm also shooting film (I'm using a Nikon F3/Titanium with a nikkor-S auto 55mm 1.2) but the process is so expensive that I do it with moderation. The 5D classic is the only digital camera giving me a bit of the film experience without going broke. I really enjoy it. Still my dream camera somehow !
I turned off the back display to get that analog feeling ;) Funny seeing you had the same start as I did, I just never felt the need to buy the mark II, etc. I just got another 5d and great glass. I just now bought the 6d for equivalent of 400 usd. I've been thinking about the 5d mark II though, but I hate that they "moved" the wheel for changing your iso (you can't use the back wheel while shooting in manual mode). What did you think of the workflow and its colours?
"You really are just looking for the shot, all the time." What great advice!
I recently sold off my RF 70-200 F2.8L, RF 24-70 F2.8L, RF 16, RF 35, and RF 50 1.8 because I picked up a 6D to use as a sort of beater camera next to my R6 and it made me fall in love with the feeling of the older canon stuff (which I started on a decade back)... I kept my R6 because sometimes I need a flippy screen for RUclips videos, but I also ended up getting a 5D classic (thanks in part to your videos) as well as a handful of older EF lenses (17-40 F4L, 40mm pancake, little plastic nifty fifty, 85mm F1.8, 100mm F2, and a Tamron 70-210 F4)… the easier it became to grab a technically perfect photo the less fun it became to shoot, I started feeling like my R6 was similar to shooting with my phone, very user friendly automation and (especially with the RF 16mm F2.8) the in-camera corrections felt a lot like computational photography. Huge disconnection from the process, also the newer gear tries so hard to correct for imperfections that everything feels sterile and clinical
Martin Firstly you images are awesome, secondly it's so refreshing and helpful to me and many others ...to have your very straight to the point, honest & genuine point of view.
I go stung by that New is Best thought and it caused me so much trouble...
I got so fed up with way to much setting and adjusting...that I sold it all and stopped photography.
But your RUclips's are so helpful.. I bought a 5d's mk2 and a 50mm 1.4 .. And I'm back to being a photographer and enjoying my photography...
I truly have to say Thankyou 👍
Ahhhh I’m so happy you got a new old camera and are taking photos again, well done, now keep at it
I picked up my first 5D classic about 6 years ago, I own 3 of them now. I am convinced I will never need another camera. I never want to not have one. There’s just something about it.
I totally concur. I’m reminded of something I recently heard/read: “Equipment is great; you just need to be, too.”
For me, it’s the Nikon D700 that I love, but couldn’t use it for the demands of my current paid work, specifically in terms of fast focus acquisition, low light performance, and totally silent operation.
until today im still use 5d mark iii and zenitar 50mm f2 for my job. it's still absolutly great
Back to basic yes! Canon40D i use still good
This channel is such a breath of fresh air amongst other photography channels. Honest opinions and nicely paced. Looking forward to seeing more brilliant content and great idea for the hashtag!
Indeed.
Martin, I recently ventured out on a professional tour, (DC photo Safari) thinking I would gain a deeper understanding of the fundamentals. The pro stated I needed to upgrade to mirrorless from my Pentax dslr because it's "better." I took the photo of my life that day but realized it was simply the time of day and knowing where to stand to best capture the photo. Pentax opted out of the mirrorless transition, and I couldn't be more satisfied!
100% - I took a Nikon D50 and a poorly rated tamron lens on a trip around Connemara in Ireland last week and had an absolute blast with it. Loved the images, some of my favourites of the year. No cropping, working within the limits was really liberating. New to the channel and looking forward to seeing more !
Some people say that Tamron is not good, but some say that is still enough. It's a cheap lens with great f-stop and good quality. Do you use f2.8 Tamron?
I've taken great pictures on the EF 75-300 😂😂 Worst rated canon lens
I think it’s a valid point of view. The idea and how to communicate it must always be the most important.
I read the comments and everyone seems to have like the older tech because it makes them participate. For me I always used cameras in manual mode weather old or new. I like later tech better though, better sensors and AF, focus peaking, optical and sensor stabilization. Personally I see no conflict, I’m always aware when I create, but that’s me.
I think if one does things with a purpose one is more aware, the tools matter less.
Interesting video with points well made. I love older gear, it keeps my very grounded. Using older gear you quickly realise you don’t need as much ISO as you think you do, or as manufacturers will tell you you need. The best decision I ever made was buying a Leica M9 and I haven’t looked back. It’s so refreshingly simple to use. I’ve never owned Canon and I have been considering the 5D Classic as they can be had so cheap and this lead me to this channel. Great photos too.
Love the Insta idea, absolutely up for that, you inspired us to go and get a 5d MK2, the cheapest working one available, £180 absolutely love it...
100% agree.
After a long time of approaching photography from a solely technical angle, a few years ago I started embracing the art of it and I'm not only much happier doing it, my images have improved as a result.
One of my favourite combos I own is the Canon 6D and Helios 44m. Great video, Martin.
Love this message! I hate how brands and "youtubers" keep pushing new gear. It's like relationships and marriages nowadays: if things get rocky, toss it and get a new one... LOL. This analogy actually feels just like marketing today. I enjoy using what I currently have now. I'm not sure if Canon is doing it with their new cameras but I know for sure that Sony does that, unfortunately. I'm glad I'm subscribed. Keep up the good messages.
I own a Canon 5D classic and Canon R5. 5D classic can give you great pictures because it was made just for taking pictures. The R5 can give you more than just photography. They both give me what I want and I love both my cameras. 😊
Hi Martin, just found you a couple of days ago. I sold my mamiya c330f, it was my wedding shoot camera, to buy the Canon 5dII! Still gut wrenching, as the cost of production went up and up. But I loved the Canon. That was 2011. In 2014 I upgraded to the mark iii. It's been my work horse ever since, still use it for all comercial work. However, I much prefer the MkII for video with Magic lantern software. So, after thinking about the R6 as an upgrade, I realised, after watching your channel, that the solution was another mkII. Just ordred one! I also use back button focus for stills, and use older manual Nikkor lenses for video, no need for auto focus hocus pocus!
5D classic sensor with the R3 AF would be the best camera ever
Love this. I actually am selling my a7iv in favour of a 1DX for the sake of getting back to basics and finding my joy in taking the photograph again. I realised that I had inadvertently strayed from what made me love shooting in favour of tech that I thought I needed for work, when in reality, the quality of work ended up suffering... so I'm back to the older bodies for some time, while I navigate that!
1dx is an absolute beast of a camera and I’ve even seen them as low as 699 on fredmiranda classifieds.
I find the content of this video very interesting. After many years of just being interested in photography recently I have decided to take it more seriously as a hobby. I decided that I would invest in a decent camera and some lenses that were second hand. I bought a Canon 5D ii and a 24-105 plus 17-40 as well as a new nifty fifty which has set me up nicely.
The reasons for going for the older gear for me were primarily based on cost as I didn’t have a lot of money to spend on my hobby also I realised that I could buy equipment that not too many years ago was state of the art. I have definitely found that learning to use a more basic and older camera body is making me be aware of the fundamentals of photography without which I don’t think I would have the understanding of how everything works ie light, aperture, iso.
Photography is definitely more than the final image, it’s about the journey to get to that image like location camera and lens set up etc and an understanding of how the camera has managed to do it.
I have still got a great deal to learn as I start dipping my toe into the world of photography but I definitely feel it’s most advantageous to understand the fundamentals so that you can build on them. Alternatively I could just use my phone camera but for me that just doesn’t cut the mustard!!
Please keep the videos coming they are great.
Cheers
John
Well put. I agree totally!
D50, D80, D200, D300, D700. AF, Af-S, DX. FX.
+10 Pentax film ... (ME, SuperA, Spotmatic, etc)
Vintage Takumar, Makinon, Sigma, M42, PK, F.
10mm - 600mm. Prime and Zoom.
All of it is better at taking pitchers than I am, so I'm good. Lot's of room for learning!
Great Video, thanks!
There's the hobby (or profession) of Photography.
And then there's the separate hobby of Photography Gear.
Both are fun, and certainly are related, but maybe not the same thing.
I've used Nikons for years and I had plenty of gear and I just unloaded a lot of it. I recently bought a Fuji XT-5 and I love it. Simple dials, lightweight, and a joy to use. However, I did keep my D3s and my D700 and still enjoy using them. I truly enjoy your videos because they are so sensible and grounded. Light and composition and heart are what it's all about
After having a fling with a Nikon Df but selling it because of it's relatively high street value I think I need to go find a D700.
Hi Martin, watching this video I felt that you were talking directly to members of the choir. This member, after being away for more years than I'd like to admit, has gotten back into photography. Not sure where to start I went with a new Sony mirrorless camera and was frustrated with it's complexity and longed for the simplicity of my old Pentax film camera. After searching some RUclips channels that covered older cameras I purchased a Canon 40D and a Pentax K10. Their 'limitations' help me focus on getting the image I am after and their colors are wonderful. And because of them, my use of the Sony and my phone have improved. I like the idea of having a place to show what these "old" gems can do.
Martin, you are spot on. I've never thought it was the camera. It is the lenses. They are what change the perspective, and to know which lens to use in a given situation is the art and science of photography. It doesn't matter whether you are projecting the image onto a piece of film or a sensor, the quality of the image primarily depends on the perspective chosen by the photographer.
Martin do not change a thing, that's why we watch you. Thank you for being u, it is most appreciatexd.
Totally agree. I shoot weddings with 2x Nikon D4 and a D700 as a spare. 12 and 16 megapixels is all you need and these cameras have never ever let me down in 6 years. Tried mirror less and it felt like using a calculator. I'll keep it old school like many other pros out there!
Totally understand. For my event work, I use a D3 and a D4. Love those cameras, I'll never part with them. Why play into the unending cycle manufacturers want us to do. Use your gear and develop your craft.
Agree 100%. Just bought a 40d, which was my first “real” dslr. Actually my first dslr was a Rebel XT, which I also just purchased 2 for my daughters to learn on. The reason was to slow them and myself down and not rely on tech.
I enjoy my Nikon D3, D700 and D300 cameras. I use primarily Nikkor AIS lenses with them and couldnt be happier. I also shoot film, but these are my digital choices. Life is good 👍🙏
Composition and Light! Canon 6D Classic shooter.
It's refreshing to see somebody who hasn't sold out on the art of photography and places the emphasis there rather than the gear.
100% agree with this. I learned my trade on the 5Dmkii. I still have it and run it alongside my R5. Yes the R5 gives me some more features, but for true photography I still love the 5D.
I force myself to use one lens, then I go walk around. I do that with my Nikon D700 and have done this with variety of lenses. This includes the 28mm f/2.8, 50mm f/1.4, 85mm f/1.8, 135mm f/2, 180mm f/2.8, and even a 200mm f/4.
I understand completely where Martin is coming from, and agree that everyone should perform this exercise regularly. I only use a Nikon D700 and a D800, more than 10 years old!
Perfectly agree with you. That's why I use mostly film, still. Ok, I'm not a pro or I'd be dead by now :) But I like to see how I still manage to get what I want by my understanding of the process, not camera miracles. And that, I believe, is the problem of old gear for modern photographers. Miracles happen more easily with newer gear. Not to mention AI on newer software.
I'm old school and I like it. Have my darkroom, my Nikon f2A, F100, a Rolleiflex and a Roller 35 and a 35S. Love them. Love my mistakes and good ones. And concerning Digital, my camera is a D700. Wouldn't change it for any newer for many reasons - most you've already put on a video.
Thanks for the video, really like your approach to photography. All the best!
Thanks, I relate to this 100%.... still using a 5Dii and good glass.. as good as ever. Your statement 5 min into the video is truth in a big way!!!!
Great vid! I have both the 5D classic and the 6D m1, love them both and I'm never letting them go :)
I start my photography hobby with new Nikon D80 back in the 2007, year after purchase new Nikon D200. Now i have only old DSLR both Canon and Nikon. For me it's so simple, so much love good old machine. Full MG body, no plastic. Build to last forever i think. Great channel, great content.
I’ve been a photographer for 15 years. Just bought a nice, used Nikon 750 and it is amazing. At the height of the DSLR era, these cameras were ready for business. Is it the latest and greatest? No… but my clients don’t care about what gear I have. They care about the results. Probably gonna buy another one soon.
I love this video. I had to switch between 10 different cameras to finally figure out what I wanted. Most of them have been 10 plus year old CCD sensor cameras. I've heard some people say that a camera is just a tool. I tend to agree
So there is a purpose in photography again! Brilliant video.
Thank you so much Don!!!!!
there is always a purpose in every human artistic creativity
My current Nikon bodies in order, D80, D200, D700, D7100, D610 ,D500, D850, D780, Yeah, no Nikon mirrorless. Still waiting on something that will make me move that direction.
That hashtag idea would be great. I definitely would take part in that. I am currently using a Canon 5D classic with a Pentax 28mm f3.5 SMC Takumar on the side with my "modern" camera being the Fujifilm X-T2. It's so refreshing using older gear.
I shoot a wide variety of stuff. I junked the Canon R6 because there were so many complications in the way of the shot. If I only photographed birds or weddings it would be perfect but I don’t.
So while janking around between remembering which AF mode was the right one I spent more time in the mens than I did taking pictures. The stress. The lost footage. The unusable footage.
Going back to the 5D Mark II is so refreshing. Aim, focus, shoot. How many photos do you need?
Video I shoot hand held on the 6k Blackmagic and yes it is all manual focus and it is a dream to use. No hunting, no useless footage, no complications and I am so much more involved in the scene. I can nail focus in moments and easily follow the action and if I over shoot the focus it looks totally natural and is still usable.
I completely agree with you Sir. I have been using my Olympus e1 for a very long time, bought as new. Yesterday i upgraded to a second hand canon 40d
Martin, I just recently found your videos and your practical and common sense approach is very refreshing. I love that your focus is on the art of photography vs just technical tips. I shoot Canon mirrorless bodies for events and portraiture (my work cameras) but use my 5D mkiii for fun and then I have Nikon F3 and FM2 film bodies to really go back to basics and stay grounded. Thanks for putting out such interesting content and look forward to more videos,
Hello! Just bought a Nikon FM. I don't use tripods (mostly) and huge lenses. I love the absolute simplicity.
Hi Martin, I like your idea of using older gear, and to some extent promoting older gear.
I have both "newer" gear (D4s / D800e / D610) as well as "older" gear (D3 / D3s / D700). I tell anyone who would listen that a D3 (which is ~14 years old now) produces stunning pictures. For some reason people are shocked when they see the picture that they like, ask me what did I use and then ask me again when I'm telling them that it was made on a 12Mp camera from 2008.
In fact, if I simply take the kids for a walk and I'm grabbing a "just in case" camera it is nearly always a D3 + 85/1.4D -- both are probably considered 'dinosaurs' by the marketing departments, but this combo produces outstanding photographs. (And a D4s and a D800e which both on paper must be superior to a D3 are on a same shelf -- however, I naturally gravitate to a D3).
Keep up the good work! Cheers from Canada!
--Roman
I got myself a D810 with a 70-200/f4 and the 24-85 recently for landscapes and couldn't be happier! It does everything I need and a lot more, tons of affordable glass and I still don't think you can beat an optical viewfinder. The whole kit was under £1200. I did look into mirrorless offerings but I didn't like the battery life or the fact that many didn't even come with two card slots not to mention the price.
Even when shooting a zoom lens for urban photography, I usually just leave it at the 23mm (cropped) setting and still 'zoom with my feet'. I did that with my Fuji XT20 and kit lens. for an entire trip to Havana, I left it on 23mm and never bothered to touch the ring. Liberating.
Thank you for the review, I am a beginner and earlier this year I bought my forst camera, a second hand Canon SX50HS to start taking photos and have loved the learning curve. The 6D is my target as my first DSLR to continue the adventure, many thanks.
I think learning on an old camera is the best way to learn! Plus, it actually makes photography affordable :) I don't see any need to buy a fancy camera. My 40D does what I need. Though, I have to admit I've been eyeing an older full frame camera for the future. I love your idea about having a hashtag of pictures shot on older cameras!
40D is a wonderful camera, I still use one. If you want a FF also, grab a 5MKII you will not be disappointed (with a 50mm prime or a L lens)
Okay, you've won me over. It's not just because your preaching to the choir, and I like to hear people spout ideals I believe in - to prove I'm right. It's because It's a position I've come to through experience in several other venues.. Quick example: In dance, many advanced dancers look to improve their basic techniques, while most beginners are looking for the latest thing or more complicated (or "cooler") choreography. Most everyone goes through this, so there's nothing wrong here. The point is that as you mature, and strive to improve, you realize that it's your foundation in fundamentals that will expedite your growth. You start this video out on just that premise and thank you. In the two videos I've seen so far from you, you make very valid and useful points. Thank you, Martin. I'm sure I will have more to say in one of your other videos. One minor point: (and before I go there, I know what you're saying). I'm a beginner photographer - 4 to 5 years now - and it's my hobby. I just finished speaking with Jeff Cable (official photographer of the US Olympic Hockey team) and he principally uses zooms for the sports he shoots. Point is, certain types of shooting do not lend themselves to zooming with your feet. I know you know this, but wanted to bring it up as a counter point to the "lazy" argument. That said, your point is very relevant to a discussion. One last thing, THANK YOU SO MUCH for showing your work during your conversation! Love the comment about "if you're worried about hyperfocal distance etc." you're doing physics, but that's not photography. Fist camera was a D700 a few years ago - and I take it out once a week. I get it.
yes i agree with you on the zoom thing too, i think the difference is that a zoom can make you lazy but doesnt have to, plus for things like landscape a zoom is just much more practical too. I use zooms a lot too. I think my point is just that people learn better on primes for the most part but depends.
plus zooming with your feet at 200mm is a losing battle haha
@@MartinCastein ;-) Certainly on a hockey rink ....without skates, pads, and helmet! Keep rockin it!
@@MartinCastein I've just watched 2 more of your Canon (photography) videos - you almost had me going out and buying the Canon 6D ;-) As I mentioned previously, I love where you are coming from with all your videos. You are trying to provide your opinion on what you see in the camera benefits and limitations in a way I have not heard others do before. Your not selling things (presets, links, etc) and that leaves your channel with some feeling of value of another kind. As a "novice" photographer, I try to spend as much time shooting as I can and learning from what I've done (about my camera and subject). Your videos provide a nice balance of "the lay of the land" or where things evolved from and to, and the changes along the way. Why some cameras have a certain look. Interesting historically. Thanks again. I love seeing your work. Thanks for showing on most of your videos.
I admit I'm a collector with gasititius maximus. Had been buying the latest and greatest (ehem) new mirrorless of different brands, then after preordering the Lumix S5 IIx due out in May, I finally had a worthwhile rethink. With the heart-to-self realization that I enjoy collecting and playing with equipment, I decided to cancel the preorder look at old equipment. For the same cost of that S5 IIx, I realized I could get a whole bunch of old bodies to play around with (well, unless going crazy like I did). And since I already owned a perfectly worthwhile S5, did I really need the S5 IIx? Since then, I've purchased not one, but 2 classic 5Ds, an EOS 1Ds Mark II, then with a kick of nostalgia, the EOS 1Ds classic (11 megapixel) that I used during the twilight of my pro photography days back around 2002-03. And just for kicks, I got a film EOS 1n, but then had to get the 1v since that's hailed as one of the best film cameras ever made. But I wasn't done. My final piece was the 6D original, in like new condition--in large part due to your praise of it. Even picked up a couple old 50mm lenses; the Canon F1.8 to go alongside my F1.4 I've owned forever, and a Zeiss ZE classic to go with the other all metal ZE classics in my collection. Lessons learned?
Getting the old equipment and playing around with it makes new cameras look a lot more expensive. Hugely more expensive. The newer stuff I have (R5, S1h, Sony A74, & S5), are all so capable compared to the older stuff, I can't imagine ever plunking down a fortune on a new body again. I now see the Canon R5 as an "own forever" camera. While working pro, I never cared about equipment. I was so burned out after shooting 1500 weddings on film (give or take), that I didn't even want to look at a camera again. I cringed when friends and family requested me volunteer services. After getting over burnout (took more than 10 years), I'm enjoying collecting in a way never before, and with old equipment, I'm brought back to the older, slower way of making pics from the past, particularly with manual focus. In fact, I've always hated autofocus until recently, in large part because I never (to this day) learned how to use it properly. So, with the old cameras, I enjoy using manual focus lenses... though I hate the limited selection of focusing screen options today. I still like mirrorless, and find the EVFs a godsend for critical manual focus (focus magnifier in particular). But when I'm going out on a family event, I'll rely on the Sony A74 in fully auto mode, and let the autofocus thing do what it wants while enjoying the point and click experience. I.e., two completely different applications... enjoying the process of photography vs. creating personal images (candid snapshots) for posterity.
I'm looking forward to comparing and contrasting the old vs. the old, and old vs. the new someday. I've been intrigued by the EOS 1Ds Mark II as a higher megapixel version of the 5D classic, but little is out there in the way of comparison. And as for the 1Ds classic, there are those who like the 11mp sensor above all others, though it's quite limited on DR and requires paying attention to achieve good results. All in good fun... all in good fun. 😎
Great video… I am using my Canon Rebel SXi also known as 450D that I purchased in 2008 … I have newer camera but I keep coming back to this camera. Your videos are helping me to develop my skills and not getting caught in the gear obsession. I will get new gear at some point but I will never get rid of this camera… thanks!!!
I bought an S1R in 2024. To me it's more than I'll use but I really enjoy using it with manual focus lenses as well as autofocus. I got older sigma super classics hsm 28+40mm 1.4, voigtlander app lanthar 50mm and an 85mm otus. I used to use medium and large format mostly so I like the slow methodology and hyper realism. I also got an 8 year old Hasselblad X1D. These will last me a long time and I doubt I will buy anything else for many years. Maybe a lens. I have an incredible kit for far less.
Hi Martin,
Just wanted to say it's really refreshing to see someone challenge some of these preconceived ideas about photography. Whilst there is nothing new in the photo industry selling the lie that the 'latest and greatest' gear will magically turn anyone into a great photographer, it has become a particularly accute disease in the digital era.
A few years back, I used to teach photography in an adult education establishment, and the number of times I'd get asked what was the best camera. In the end, I'd usually repeat something I'd heard from another photographer friend of mine - it's the one you've got with you at the time! I wasn't being flippant - at the end of the day the gear, whatever you've got, is just a tool to express an idea, tell a story in visually terms.
The great photographer produces a wonderful image from a camera just as much as a great violinist produces wonderful music from their violin. A violin is essentially fairly straight forward i terms of how it produces sound, but it's the skill of the player that produces something meaningful. Equally, someone with even a simple camera, who knows what they are doing, it's limitations and has developed an eye for visual composition, can produce an aesthetically pleasing image. All the advanced technology does is make it easier, for those who know what their doing to produce those images technically.
I'm going to shut up now. I've mixed too many metaphors in this rant. Thanks again!
I shoot handheld using my second hand Canon 5D MKIII and a 50mm prime f1.8 STM lens that I bought new. I love my camera and enjoy getting out and shooting images. I totally agree with your comment about not standing in one space. I am always moving about when shooting. I think of it as always looking for interesting camera angles. I will often contort myself into strange shapes in order to get the shot I want. Yes, my 28-135mm Canon zoom is very convenient and does get used sometimes but I like the consistency that I get from sticking to one focal length.
No issues from me, a camera is a camera, it is just a tool to capture a moment in time that we have created, my newest camera is over 4 years old, I see no reason to upgrade to anything newer for the foreseeable future. I'm quite happy with my gear that ranges from 2018 all the way back to 1980, it's mainly Nikon based and allows me to use lenses from way back when on modern bodies, which is great. As an ex Canon shooter I might have a look at a 5D in some variant, I never owned one so it would be good to revisit my Canon days and have a look. Nice video and good sound advice, thanks.
I have a Nikon F body that is older than I am. It shoots great pictures and I love it.
Have a Nikon d850, I will shoot with it forever. Love your line of reasoning!!!
Thanks!
My older cameras I love: Samsung NX1, Pentax KS1, Fuji film X-Pro1, Olympus E-P5, Olympus XZ-1, Sony A7Sii
Right there with you, I love my classic, and often team it up with a 50mm lens to go back to basics.
You sir, are a breath of fresh air. I just found your channel in my search for information on older canon gear. I actually bought a 5D ii and 50mm f/1.8 ii this afternoon. While I have gotten some good photos out of mirrorless gear, I absolutely don’t like the process. With mirrorless gear the chance of failure is really small. There is something about older gear that forces a sense of slowing down and paying attention to detail that strengthens my power of observation. Photography is way more enjoyable when I’m using ND grads and waiting on light than futzing with some luminosity mask and figuring out who’s photoshop actions I should be using. I’m looking forward to your insights in future videos. Subscribed.
Thank you Richard!
100% with you. For me it feels more rewarding to achieve the desired results using my old gear, whereas it always like that the camera and the software did the work with the modern mirrorless.
I love having my older Canon gear alongside my newer Sony stuff. I totally agree that shooting more frequently with my ‘old’ gear keeps me more engaged and consequently I get better results out of any gear. Like the concept of an older camera hashtag. Great content per usual!
Yes I think the hashtag idea is great. Fundamentals 👍🏼
That's why I like my 6 megapixel CCD Pentax cameras one from 2005 *istDL and my Pentax K100D from 2006. I bought both cameras new and have used them ever since. With modern photo editing software the pictures look as good
What a great idea. Especially since my newest camera is already 14 years old. I just can;t justify the outlay for anything newer at the moment. 30D with an old plastic fantastic 50mm f1.8 ii.
So refreshing to hear this take. I shoot with multiple older bodies from different systems. And it's all about playing to the strengths of each camera. To this day, I still use a Pentax K10-D and it regularly produces unrivaled images.
One of photo youtubers, who actually has proper light on himself whilst in the frame.
The only caveat I'd add with older gear is lack of dynamic range. This isn't an issue in studio and modern software can recover shadows successfully. Highlights are another matter, and on my 5D when skies were blown they stayed blown, so careful metering is essential. I still use a 11 year old Fuji X-Pro1 and a little Canon 100D and Lumix GF3 for walkaround stuff.
I find myself agreeing completely with your points on this one. Photography is the art of composition, which includes using the camera parameters how you see fit. Your pet hate of photographers standing still for long periods really hit home, I'm more like you and enjoy bopping about and looking at new angles or different perspectives. I've just managed to snag a cheap 5D classic online, looking forward to trying it out.
I love your photos. They are very beautiful.
As an amateur I only have economic to buy the old cameras, you are referring to.
So for me there’s no choice.
But you are correct, I don’t miss anything.
Thanks for you!
You're absolutely right about using 'old' and 'bad' camera gear. It's why I now only follow your channel and a few that shoot exclusively on film. That's it. Sick of the rest.
Great video Martin! I bought a 6d new back in 2018 and then earlier this year bought a 5d3. They are both awesome cameras. I do gravitate to the 5 if I’m just using one body on a shoot because I think the images are slightly better but I have no plans to pick up equipment R models anytime soon. I have just this week bought an EOS M3 purely for fun and to have something I can pocket easily. I am very grateful to all the togs who have upgraded and provide such a good supply to the second hand market!
I like older gear, too, like Kowa 6s. Also Mamiya twinlenses, Pentacon 6 and Kiev 60s.
I have the 5D and 6D. I pretty much Takumar lenses on them. Loads of fun. I do have some EF lenses too as they are also nice but a Takumar 300mm and 400mm are surprisingly good. Even my Takumar 200mm delivers the goods.
Some great insights Martin. I use a phone camera, a Nikon D200, an old Em and FE, a practice B1 and an uber cheap110 camera. I use them all in equal measure - or thereabouts. They all have their own character. To be honest, when my images are shown online (or printed out for that matter) there are very few people who can separate what 'quality' camera each image was taken on. To say there are good and bad cameras is a complete fallacy. A good (enthusiastic/artistically minded) photographer, can get a good image regardless of what he uses.
I return to this video from time to time. Your message is so true and grounding. Thank you!
I totally agree Martin. I have several Nikon camera’s including the D850. I find however that I’ll reach for the D700 or the Fm2. Same with lenses, I have the newer ones but I like the older classic Nikon 180d or the 135dc. I think among my favorites is the Voigtlander 58mm 1.4 Nokton.
I bought a 2nd hand Nikon Z fc for a back to the future experience. Shooting in manual mode takes me back. It sits alongside my D3, D700, D750 etc. The location, composition and lighting doesn’t care what I’ve got in my hands. The Zfc and kit lenses will be welcome when I fly again as they are so light.
Loving your vids , it brings us back to the real world.
Hell yeah 5D classic!
Well said Martin and I couldn't agree more. Creating compelling images is not about tracking autofocus performance, frames per second and having 50 or more megapixels. My experience shooting film and older DSLR cameras has been so beneficial in finding the light, composition and in capturing those fleeting moments of beauty.
Only recently discovered this channel, and I very much agree with the message. I have 4 cameras that I frequently use, and only one of them is a recent one. 3 of my 4 Nikons are all old DSLRs. I started with the D70s, but don't use it anymore. Then came the D300 and the D700, which I used the most and still use for serious photography. Being in need of a walk-around and street camera I then purchased the Z fc. But honestly, I like the images of my older Nikons much better. So my last purchase was a D200 to have a CCD sensor camera again, and I am more than pleased with the photos I can take with it.
I love cameras with old sensors, their output looks more natural and organic compared to newer sensors which are too clinical and lacks character.
Years ago, I got hooked on Carl Zeiss lenses for their 3D pop and unique rendering. I enjoyed using them with my 5D Classic and 6D. I find the 5D great for portraiture, skin tones look creamy and have better texture. Compared to the 5D, the 6D files look sharper and less film-like. With plenty of light, I still prefer the output from the 5D.
A few years ago, I sold both cameras and was planning to go mirrorless but I find them too complex with features that distracts from the shooting experience. I decided to re-acquire my old gear and was lucky enough to find both in mint condition with very little use for about $500 total. I plan to keep them for good.
Ive been traped in your videos for about an hour. I love the message you put across. Reason ik writing this in this very video is because 5 years ago I found a cheap Canon AE-1 and a cheap 50 1.4 whillst travelling with a 5D3 and three primes. While i did get an f4 zoom for the ae1, going film and fifty was a game changer for me. You see, now i got 36 exposures and that's it. So i started thinking more about what i wanted to shoot, obviously not spraying and praying and finally enjoying the trip more, which circled back beautifully.
I always thought photography is like poetry written with light and your quoting Mr Myagi feels relatable. So thanks for the channel, the message and all.
PS i wanna try some double exposure landscapes on film to toy with dynamic range, not sure how it'll end up like, looking forward to it
Thank you I’m glad you are enjoying my videos!
What a beautiful light you've got on you! And the grading!
Most YT photographers want to sell you Cameras, or raise interest by using that new top of the line gear that, really, has a minimal impact on the image you take.
Keep doing your stuff and teach people how an image is taken!
A flip-side on zooms - efficiency. I can pack as much movement into a photo-romp using zooms as anyone with primes, but I get far more opportunities to shoot (do photography) and I get to shoot things that are impossible with primes because the physical position is unattainable. I'm also able to respond rapidly to changing conditions, and I get less time sitting at a computer cropping because I can frame accurately, and I don't degrade the image's potential by throwing half of it away. Maybe some people are just lazy, but that's not the fault of zoom lenses. Where I do pack my bigger primes it's because I already know the shot i'm after and exactly where I'm going to park myself, or because my subjects are never going to come close to filling the frame and/or TC's are called for. So, that's my call for fairly energetic landscape / environmental work. With that said - really good vid. The IG thing would be a lot of fun - I could post my time-lapse of landscape photographers 'in action' that you got me thinking about. All the best from a swamp in New Zealand.
I love what you are saying. It is so refreshing and true. I have a photography book by Clive Nichols who does garden photography for a living. He had images from film cameras and a Canon 1DS mark II and the quality is fantastic. It is a great reminder of how good cameras and lenses were back in 2007 and some of those photos were from the beginning of his career fifteen years earlier. Clive’s understanding of how the cameras worked and his knowledge, creativity and skill were key to his beautiful photographs.
I'm not a pro, just a photography hobbyist that started 2.5 years ago, but what you're saying is exactly what I like about the Nikon FM3A and Mamiya M645 in film. These machines only have a few buttons and a handful of functions, nothing that is not absolutely necessary, and what it does is only just about the exposure triangle, nothing more. Through this I learned to understand and optimally use exposure fairly quickly. Combined with some affordable but high quality primes from the 70s and 80s, I could just focus on the image to take and think about the important stuff: perspective, composition, texture, colour, etc. No menus, funky options, HDR, etc. to distract. With film the only big downside is not having immediate feedback (first devving myself etc.), however, I did learn to trust my choices and to accept failure as a moment to learn... This does benefit how I use digital cameras (e.g. my D810): make a photo and immediately on to try another one instead of looking at a screen and missing a moment.
Im about to buy my very first dslr, a nikon d5300, and this channel has really inspired me to do so, its honest, humble, and relays on the purity of skill. Vs buying into a hobby or skill. thank you, im now a subscriber