I own one in both 45 and 9 and I love shooting them. They are great guns! My only complaint is I wish the 45 wasn’t a 10 rounder. It should be at least 12.
@@jamesnielsen4651 I have the 13rd mag. What I’m saying is they could have made a better design for the standard mag to naturally hold 13 and not have to buy an extended mag to do so.
Not into the apex trigger, love the trigger on my bone stock m&p 2.0 9mm. As to .45acp i dont see it as difficult to shoot. Ive got 5 .45acp pistols. Imho, they have a push more then a kick. If we were talking about a .40s&w i would say other wise. .45acp has a major advantage that no one seems to be talking about. 9mm, .40, .38, .357 ext depend on expanding ammo for their stoping power. .45acp was designed to kill with ball ammo. Now consider the SHTF scenario. Out of the billions of rounds stock pilled in this country, how much of that is high performance, high cost hollowpoint? Id guess that its not much. When all the hollow point is shot up(in the first month), all that will be left is ball. Now ask your self this.......if all you could defend your self with was ball ammo, what hand gun would you chose? Most that know anything about handgun ballistics would answer .45acp I bought my m&p 2.0 in 9mm just because i wanted to test the platfom in a cheap to shoot caliber. Now that im sold on the gun, ill be upgrading to .45acp.
The original m&p 45 is my nightstand gun. I've never felt the need to upgrade the trigger. Sure, it's a bit spongy, but it's an accurate shooter staight out of the box.
I love my 45 2.0! I primarily use it as a home defense/truck gun, I prefer to carry smaller pistols on my person but this gun is so nice to shoot even with the stock trigger.
The way I see it, if you're stuck in a shitty state and you can only have 10 rounds in the magazine, then you might as well go with a pistol and caliber that works within those limitations. So I'd rather have something like this M&P 2.0 in .45 then 9mm. Cause 9mm would just make me sad that I'm missing 7 rounds for no good reason. lol
100% agree. If you can only have 10, might as well throw the big ol' Jesus Rocks.... As far as recoil, the 45 definitely has more recoil and report. I have both and there is no doubt about it. My wife notices it more than I do. She's good for a couple of magazines of .45 ACP and that's enough, but will shoot our 9mm pistols all afternoon.
I own 1st gen M&P's and the new 2.0's. My 1st gens are later first gens or "1.5's" if you will and I've never replaced a trigger in any of them because they function perfectly with practice. As far as those who say "you're buying a gun and replacing the trigger" they are most likely Glock guys who buy their gun and immediately replace their Fisher Price sights.
@@briancaine9130 on the later 1.0 full size 9mm pistols there's a small punch mark just forward of the locking lugs on the barrel and the trigger has a more tactile reset. Nothing huge but noticeable. My 2.0's have slightly lighter trigger pull but the overall trigger feel is about the same. Wow, I posted that comment four years ago and I just popped in. Insane..
@@randystevens6302 thanks. It didn’t quite pop up. Just bought an M&P 45 LE trade in and have sorted thru several hundred M&P 45 videos. But your comment got my attention! Much thanks.
Coming from a novice by comparison to you big time gun toters. That ought to be refreshing. We have the old M&P9 compact. It's fun and fits in pocket or purse handily. But I have ALWAYS wanted a .45. I finally got to shoot one some years ago and I noticed two big things. First, since I'm a lousy shot I could actually hit with the thing right off. Second...it pushed. So hearing that from you was confirmation of how I have been describing my experience. The pushing is what I liked. It helped me. It felt GOOD! Awesome good, as a matter of fact. Finally decided to drop the hammer. Just waiting for the 2.0 full sized .45 to become available at my local gun store. At this writing, (Check your history books for this date) looks like I'm in for a long wait. So MANY thanks for your great video and advice. Ya done good!
Love the m&p 2.0. These are just very nice and affordable handguns. I think it took awhile for them to catch up with Glock, but they've done.. And may have even surpassed them.
Excellent firearms I have four of the M/P series the 45 is the one I don’t have but I will.. you can’t say enough about these guns they are quality and come with a lifetime warranty that is transferable no matter who owns the gun Smith and Wesson has really stepped up to the plate and given Glock a run for their money ..
Thanks for the review! S&W released a new 45 M2.0 with the improved flat-face trigger, optics cut in the slide, optics height/suppressor height iron sights, and a threaded barrel. I'm highly considering getting one! I wish I could get one in grey or FDE, but it seems like they only release the 45s in black.
I have the first generation M&P 45 w an Apex trigger. I have several 1911’s, an STI and a Glock. This is my favorite. Best ergonomics, weight, sights and trigger of all of them. It seems it should be illegal. Lol 10 rounds of 45 is a force to be reckoned with.
I have the smaller 7 round version. I had a company called M-Carbo upgrade my trigger with their internal kit and also polish all the internals and their work is backed by a lifetime warranty. I added night sights and went a performance stainless steel guide rod and spring. Mine also came with a Crimson Trace green laser. Squeezing the trigger is at half the weight of being stock. I am very happy with my M&P 2.0 45 ACP pistol🤗
I've been carrying for about 22 years now, and 90% of that time was spent carrying Glocks. I've replaced my primary carry guns with the 2.0's, because I feel they are that good. I shoot them more accurately, the grips are easier to hold with wet (or God forbid bloody) hands. The Optic Ready triggers are an improvement over the standard curved/hinged triggers. Its not great, but definitely better. But as you say, that is an easy enough fix. My only complaint (caused by years of Glock ownership), is you need a punch set and a hammer to get the frame and slide apart for deep cleaning. I will always have a love for Glock, but unless they make some huge change in design, I doubt they will ever be my primary carry gun again. I've been carrying the Bull Shark Gray spec series 9mm for about a year now, and just picked up the FDE .45 with the factory TFX sights. Ive started carrying the .45, Im 6' and 160 lbs and have no trouble concealing it, and do not find it uncomfortable.
I have one of these also. I love it! I’ve had several m&p’s and I feel like the trigger is noticeably better in the 45 guns. Also I think the recoil of 45 is more of a roll compared to a snap in 9. It’s definitely a solid gun.
I have the subcompact version of this and it's extremely accurate and feeds any type or brand of ammo without any feed problems.Having said that,I just ordered the full size version.I am getting rid of my glock 30sf.
I've had the same experience with all my m&p's. Steel case, aluminum case, brass. No issues whatsoever. Even the Shield and Plus models were accurate out of the box.
I have 9mm M2.0 and 45 and 9mm compact non M2; triggers are really good on both. Even 9mm full size after changing the spring is not bad. New texture is fantastic but I carry bigger size guns in cold months so it doesn't abrade the skin anyway. M&Ps are perfect size guns without bulkiness of wider slides of more expensive guns. Guns sit low in the hands not like Sigs and H&Ks. I cringe when other posters trying to say that low bore axis doesn't matter
Uno smith even nailed it with the look of them just a great looking handgun with a outstanding finnish love that armorite finnish and the machining is honesty 2nd too none hands down and i have always carried a glock19 25 + years so im really thinking about maybe adding the 2.0 compact in 45acp. And have that. 19 sized handgun with 45aco caliber. 👌
This is a nice gun . With that being said the Glock 30S as an EDC is the absolute best .45 striker fired platform. Slightly smaller than a G19 or 2.0 Compact and it’s 10 rounds of .45 . Great video !
Finally managed to tell myself to order a 2.0 Compact 3.6" in 9mm, and boy am I glad I did! I will say that the slide is much harder to manipulate, but with time it's just a difference I notice coming from my Glock 19, and something I can easily get used to. The grip is the BEST there is, point blank, it's what makes this gun stick to your hands like glue. Anyways, great video. I have one Glock in .45 and I can't see ever getting anything else in that cartridge, 9mm is for me!
@@maxfit68906 I’m always amazed how many folks drop a new trigger in a new gun rather than breaking in the factory trigger. I’ve been shooting stock Glock triggers since ‘97... and shoot them extremely well . KOM674
@@thomascarpenter7415 -- Even broken in... It's not just the take up and the creep before the break... it's inconsistency. Creep-creep-creep break at 4 lbs 11 oz. Creep-creep break at 5 lbs 3 oz. Creep-creep-creep break at 4 lbs 15 oz The trigger is different every stroke and vague. If you have ever shot a hand fitted and tuned 1911 where the entire trigger stroke is 1/8", straight back, with no take up and no over-travel, breaking at 4 lbs every time, it's easy to see how much better a trigger can be. I have heard people talk about 'reset' on a 1911 trigger... the term hardly applies. In general, compared to that, a striker-fired pistol's trigger is terrible. The Apex trigger kit improves the trigger by like 70%.
@MADx TITAN -- At the risk of repeating myself... The stock M&P trigger, even broken in... It's not just the take up and the creep before the break... it's inconsistency. Creep-creep-creep break at 4 lbs 11 oz. Creep-creep break at 5 lbs 3 oz. Creep-creep-creep break at 4 lbs 15 oz The trigger is different every stroke and vague. If you have ever shot a hand fitted and tuned 1911 where the entire trigger stroke is 1/8", straight back, with no take up and no over-travel, breaking at 4 lbs every time, it's easy to see how much better a trigger can be. I have heard people talk about 'reset' on a 1911 trigger... the term hardly applies. In general, compared to that, a striker-fired pistol's trigger is terrible. The Apex trigger kit improves the trigger by like 70%. It'll never be a high end 1911, but it can sure get better than stock.
@MADx TITAN -- This is what I get for trying to agree with someone who just wants to feel superior. You completely missed the intent of my reply. I bought my first custom, hand fitted 1911 in 1986 at a cost that was probably over a month's salary at the time, in .45 ACP of course, so I'm probably just a dumb noob.
@MADx TITAN -- Please point out where I disagreed with anything you said. I gave my opinion of why people feel the need to upgrade the triggers in these guns (at least why I do). I also stated that the Apex is a big (70%) improvement. If you want to argue, here I'll give you something to hate me for. I wouldn't piss on a Glock if it was on fire. Have at it...
Lyle Caudill look at a Sig P320 full size in 45acp. I took my time and asked for advice before buying a 45acp and between the G21, M&P 2.0 and the P320 - the Sig won. The softest shooter of the 3 and it comes with factory Sig night sights and a holster. Anyway, just wanted to share. Good luck.
I've tried to sell my M&P 45 four times because I just want to have 9mm, but I cant do it. It's the best shooter I own in terms of precision. I figure it's good insurance if we have another 9pocalypse. I always saw .45 on the shelves when 9mm and .22lr were impossible to find. I'm also in a capacity limited state, so if I can only have 10, why not have 10 big ones. ;)
Great deal on the 2.0. My next semi will either be a 2.0 or CZ 75B. Two different beasts. Ammo cost becomes mute when you reload. 200 rounds of .45 would cost me about $30 if I had the brass which I do but no .45 in the safe now. I just pressed out 400 rounds of full house .357 for $56. Takes some time but well worth it. If your just into 9mm than no big deal but if you want to expand and not spend $$$$ every range outing reloading is the way to go.
I've been wanting the newer model M&P. I have the original in 9mm and its an awesone gun. I dont have a 45acp yet, Ive shot my buddies 1911 in 45acp, but I'm really liking the M&P 2.0 and fill that niche of having a 45acp.
I have thought about purchasing this same pistol but in 9mm. Let me say I absolutely love the .45 caliber platform over 9mm. I currently own a Glock G21 G4 & it’s about the same exact size as this S&W pistol. My G21 has a 13+1 .45 capacity & I can tell you it is bulky & it’s heavy to EDC. If I do indeed purchase this pistol it will definitely be in 9mm. For the record I currently own 4 .45 caliber pistols don’t need a 5th. Great video & subscribed!!!!🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷
This is a good video. And a good point about the difrent calibers. I try to train with all types of calibers. As far as the gun they are great guns M&P make a great gun. I'm a 9mm person that's what I carry. But I will also own a 45 for training purposes. I carry a 9mm and I'm set with that. But I want to own a 45. Thanks for this video. And thanks for sharing.
After shooting my brand new M&P 40 2.0, I immediately new it needed a different trigger. After looking at different videos, i have ordered the Apex flat face. Other than the trigger I LOVE the 40. As for the M&P 45 2.0, i am looking forward to getting their new CORE model. I will add the apex trigger to that as well.
Nice pick up no doubt...I hope to get one but the wonderful state in CA make it difficult due to the approved gun list....I hope I get lucky to get one in 9mm....Good info and vid....Good stuff....
Just got the email mine is ready for pickup at my nearest Cabela’s. Can’t wait to go pick it up. Was hesitant after making the order but I think you just sealed the deal. 😎
Your videos are always great. Kudos to some good thoughts on the M&P. Now the honesty. I have owned M&P’s in the past and they were just ok for me. I owned several in fact but sold all of them. Regardless of cost, I just didn’t like them as much as CZ, Walther, Glock, FN or even Beretta. Honestly in the same price range, I like Canik better but the M&P isn’t a bad gun just doesn’t do anything for me. Great video!
I don't know if I can weigh in on the 2.0 compared to other pistols , as it's my first. I have the compact 9 and I don't have anything negative to say about it ..I really like the pistol ..as far as the grip texture it's really ok it took about a good month to get used to it on my skin .. the stock sights work but I would like to get something brighter soon ..
Hopefully Smith makes a 2.0 core model soon. I've recently become addicted to pistols with red dots on them and I'd love to have a 2.0 compact with a red dot on it
Good input. Thanks. I have to agree with you on the 2.0. I carried & still carry the 40c 1.0. I purchased the full size 2.0 40 and I am very pleased with the upgrades. The stock trigger is a good bit better. I am taking your Apex suggestion into consideration. You are not alone on that point. Good vid
I have one , like you said the Apex trigger is a personal choice. I find the trigger to be excellent.I have put over 700 rounds threw mind.One thing that I did notice, after 100 rounds it gets really warm, I’m going to get a heat gun, an find out the exact temperature, I don’t know if it’s because of the aluminum casing on the shells or not.
My 1.0 can get hot if I shoot a lot quickly. It takes a good 100 rounds or so to heat that slide up, though Ive had it pretty damn hot a couple times doing some drills with some friends. I also shoot the Federal Aluminum cased rounds, though it makes no difference with the heat vs brass. At least the trigger does not transfer that heat otherwise that might be uncomfortable.
I would carry it but I bought an xdm 4.5, same class, with the intention of carrying it. lot of weight so make sure you have suspenders available, lol.
I have several of the M/P line from 22 to 45 and they are awesome guns for the money and did you say they come with a lifetime warranty no matter who owns them!!
I've got a 9mm springfield right now and it's great, I'm looking for a 45 now as an open/field carry for when I'm going hunting (biggest thing in south alabama is a black bear) and this along with it being American as hell. I'm stuck between this gun and the ruger american in 45
check out those underwood 45acp+p 255gr hardcast at like 925 fps!!! they'll put a black bear down hard and make 2 holes with every shot almost every time!!! even on hogs!!!
The same people complaining about putting a 34 dollar trigger be the same ones buying 100 dollar metal sights for their glocks, extended take down levers, extended slide stops and more.
Why do people always look at guns as if you were to “carry” them...some people buy guns for other purposes like home defense.....IMO that gun is way to big for carry....give me my shield 2.0 in 9mm....
Good point, but bigger guns like this can easily be concealed by a coat in colder climates. I always wear a long coat so it will easily conceals an outside the waist band holster.
If someone can shoot 45 as fast and accurate than 9mm in the same platform then they aren't shooting right! lol It is a great experience to shoot a 45 minus paying for ammo!
Line up at the 50 yard line with this gun, and you'll get it... It won't split like the 9 on faster targets, but if you have medium male hands or larger, the slightly longer reach to where the trigger breaks than on the 9&40, makes it a target pistol.
Do you install the Apex triggers yourself? Just wondering if it's too much to try if I've never done one. Great video as always, '76, thanks for sharing!
I knew I'd like the M&P .45 m2.0 because I liked my first gen version. What I didn't expect was for it to become my favorite of all my handguns. Love it!
I've had a lot of experiences with the MP45 2.0 firearm. Pros: 1: absolutely accurate. 2: excellent texture on the grip. Cons: 1: failure to lock back on last round. 2: the weak front serrations. I've carried this firearm for about a year now, and 2.5 years for its predecessor. I've easily put about 10k rounds through the 1.0 and about 3k through the 2.0. The biggest issue is not gun not locking back. We've had SW representatives come out to our ranges, and they've blamed it on the old magazines. So SW sent us new followers and springs. However, we've still encountered the same issue with the same magazines that came with the 2.0. The new springs and followers worked the first few hundred rounds, then the slide wouldnt lock back again. We thought it was the grip, but it did the same with strong hand and support hand only shooting. We shoot out to 50yds for center mass hits and the gun performs well, it's extremely accurate. But you just have to round count all the time, and treat every condition 1 malfunction as a reload.
Have you tried the Glock .45 ACP...it’s huge. I’m a .40 cal guy but I’m in the market for a Shield 9mm for pocket carry. I went to the gun shop and walked out with a Glock 22 and I tried tried the 45 and I might but it. I’m not a glocktard though...
I have the G22 and love it. But I am very happy with my M&P 2.0 compact 9mm and the gun in this video is definitely y next gun. I am a huge Glock fan but I now also and huge M&P fan.
Good video sir. I have a question for you. I noticed your arm tattoo is the Cuyahoga or Tuscarora tribal tattoos? I'm always on the lookout for my Creek and Iroquois brethren. Nya:wëh sgë:nö'
Thanks and interestingly enough it's a self designed Maori tribal on both arms. I appreciate your culture and am honored to be thought of being a part of your people.
I looked into the 45 M&P 2.0, I also looked into a 400 CorBon conversion barrel for it. Unfortunately no such animal. If there had been it would completely justify me picking one up. But as it stands 45 has no place with me.
Hunts4Food67 Are you asking is there a conversion barrel. Or are you asking if I would be interested in converting to it? Yes, there is a M&P 45 conversion. No, I'm not interested in it. It's a round that beats the snot out of guns. Even with a comp. Guns chambered in it rarely last long enough to even get to a 1000 rounds.
Hunts4Food67 Maybe you'd get that far. If you're really lucky. I know of a few that barely made half that. And I always doubt the claimed "round counts" I've heard on here. The weekend RO at one of my local ranges replaced parts on a converted G20 a couple of times before finally calling it quits. Even the 40 Super is hard on my Witness. I've broken the slide stop's barrel cam pin twice over the years. LoL. ***BTW back when the 460 was a wildcat. Long before Rowland ever claimed he created it. It was common to hear of guys destroying their guns in just a few hundred rounds.
So I just bought this gun as a never issued police gun and it’s from Massachusetts and I know they have a law about a 10lb trigger…if I put an apex trigger in it would it still have that 10lb trigger pull or would I have to get a trigger job done?
I own one in both 45 and 9 and I love shooting them. They are great guns! My only complaint is I wish the 45 wasn’t a 10 rounder. It should be at least 12.
They have 13 rnd mags for the M&P 45
@@jamesnielsen4651 I have the 13rd mag. What I’m saying is they could have made a better design for the standard mag to naturally hold 13 and not have to buy an extended mag to do so.
@@jamesnielsen4651 I think that there's now a 14 rd mag for the 45acp m&p
@@Wildwestwrangler yep but they been out for years. S&w and Ruger both need too upgrade the 45 capacity to 12-15.
@@freefendii8833 they won't, they're both liberal companies.
Not into the apex trigger, love the trigger on my bone stock m&p 2.0 9mm.
As to .45acp i dont see it as difficult to shoot. Ive got 5 .45acp pistols. Imho, they have a push more then a kick. If we were talking about a .40s&w i would say other wise.
.45acp has a major advantage that no one seems to be talking about. 9mm, .40, .38, .357 ext depend on expanding ammo for their stoping power. .45acp was designed to kill with ball ammo. Now consider the SHTF scenario. Out of the billions of rounds stock pilled in this country, how much of that is high performance, high cost hollowpoint? Id guess that its not much.
When all the hollow point is shot up(in the first month), all that will be left is ball. Now ask your self this.......if all you could defend your self with was ball ammo, what hand gun would you chose? Most that know anything about handgun ballistics would answer .45acp
I bought my m&p 2.0 in 9mm just because i wanted to test the platfom in a cheap to shoot caliber. Now that im sold on the gun, ill be upgrading to .45acp.
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Well said. A great point made 5 years ago remains a great point. You've made me think differently. Thank you.
The original m&p 45 is my nightstand gun. I've never felt the need to upgrade the trigger. Sure, it's a bit spongy, but it's an accurate shooter staight out of the box.
I love my 45 2.0! I primarily use it as a home defense/truck gun, I prefer to carry smaller pistols on my person but this gun is so nice to shoot even with the stock trigger.
I have this gun, I totally love it! I have about 1000 rounds through it, 0 complaints.
The way I see it, if you're stuck in a shitty state and you can only have 10 rounds in the magazine, then you might as well go with a pistol and caliber that works within those limitations. So I'd rather have something like this M&P 2.0 in .45 then 9mm. Cause 9mm would just make me sad that I'm missing 7 rounds for no good reason. lol
Agreed just recommended this to my buddy in CT for this reason
100% agree. If you can only have 10, might as well throw the big ol' Jesus Rocks....
As far as recoil, the 45 definitely has more recoil and report. I have both and there is no doubt about it. My wife notices it more than I do. She's good for a couple of magazines of .45 ACP and that's enough, but will shoot our 9mm pistols all afternoon.
@@HalfCrazy520 why are they called Jesus Rocks? Is that a reference to something?
@@JacksonWalter735 -- If ya get hit with one you get to meet Jesus.
@@HalfCrazy520 I see. I thought it was a quote or reference to a famous movie or show
I own 1st gen M&P's and the new 2.0's. My 1st gens are later first gens or "1.5's" if you will and I've never replaced a trigger in any of them because they function perfectly with practice. As far as those who say "you're buying a gun and replacing the trigger" they are most likely Glock guys who buy their gun and immediately replace their Fisher Price sights.
How do you differentiate the 1.5 model? All of my full size 9 and 45 M&Ps are 1.0s I like the tail and overall feel.
@@briancaine9130 on the later 1.0 full size 9mm pistols there's a small punch mark just forward of the locking lugs on the barrel and the trigger has a more tactile reset. Nothing huge but noticeable. My 2.0's have slightly lighter trigger pull but the overall trigger feel is about the same. Wow, I posted that comment four years ago and I just popped in. Insane..
@@randystevens6302 thanks. It didn’t quite pop up. Just bought an M&P 45 LE trade in and have sorted thru several hundred M&P 45 videos. But your comment got my attention! Much thanks.
Articulate & solid review. The M&P 2.0’s take a back seat to no other pistol. Stock trigger is very good. Apex makes it even better. Well done Sir.
I bought a 2.0 compact last month and ordered some ameriglo l dots . And l am thrilled with this gun .
Coming from a novice by comparison to you big time gun toters. That ought to be refreshing. We have the old M&P9 compact. It's fun and fits in pocket or purse handily. But I have ALWAYS wanted a .45. I finally got to shoot one some years ago and I noticed two big things. First, since I'm a lousy shot I could actually hit with the thing right off. Second...it pushed. So hearing that from you was confirmation of how I have been describing my experience. The pushing is what I liked. It helped me. It felt GOOD! Awesome good, as a matter of fact. Finally decided to drop the hammer. Just waiting for the 2.0 full sized .45 to become available at my local gun store. At this writing, (Check your history books for this date) looks like I'm in for a long wait. So MANY thanks for your great video and advice. Ya done good!
Nicely done and great points. S&W has a good thing going with the 2.0. I thi k there is value to keeping at least two calibers on hand.
Poe Performance agreed
been carrying myn2.0 compact for 3 yes I shoot it so much better then my g19 I'm going to pick up the 2.0 sub compact as well
Love the m&p 2.0. These are just very nice and affordable handguns. I think it took awhile for them to catch up with Glock, but they've done.. And may have even surpassed them.
Excellent firearms I have four of the M/P series the 45 is the one I don’t have but I will.. you can’t say enough about these guns they are quality and come with a lifetime warranty that is transferable no matter who owns the gun Smith and Wesson has really stepped up to the plate and given Glock a run for their money ..
I’ve owned probably 60 guns or so and never had a 45. I shoot them frequently but they belong to friends. I am definitely a fan of the M&P’s for sure
Thanks for the review! S&W released a new 45 M2.0 with the improved flat-face trigger, optics cut in the slide, optics height/suppressor height iron sights, and a threaded barrel. I'm highly considering getting one! I wish I could get one in grey or FDE, but it seems like they only release the 45s in black.
I have the first generation M&P 45 w an Apex trigger. I have several 1911’s, an STI and a Glock. This is my favorite. Best ergonomics, weight, sights and trigger of all of them. It seems it should be illegal. Lol 10 rounds of 45 is a force to be reckoned with.
I have the smaller 7 round version. I had a company called M-Carbo upgrade my trigger with their internal kit and also polish all the internals and their work is backed by a lifetime warranty. I added night sights and went a performance stainless steel guide rod and spring. Mine also came with a Crimson Trace green laser. Squeezing the trigger is at half the weight of being stock. I am very happy with my M&P 2.0 45 ACP pistol🤗
I have the 2.0 compact in 40 and I love the damn thing! It’s like shooting +p 9mm, for real bro!
I've been carrying for about 22 years now, and 90% of that time was spent carrying Glocks. I've replaced my primary carry guns with the 2.0's, because I feel they are that good. I shoot them more accurately, the grips are easier to hold with wet (or God forbid bloody) hands. The Optic Ready triggers are an improvement over the standard curved/hinged triggers. Its not great, but definitely better. But as you say, that is an easy enough fix.
My only complaint (caused by years of Glock ownership), is you need a punch set and a hammer to get the frame and slide apart for deep cleaning. I will always have a love for Glock, but unless they make some huge change in design, I doubt they will ever be my primary carry gun again. I've been carrying the Bull Shark Gray spec series 9mm for about a year now, and just picked up the FDE .45 with the factory TFX sights. Ive started carrying the .45, Im 6' and 160 lbs and have no trouble concealing it, and do not find it uncomfortable.
S and W offers a lifetime warranty. If you change the trigger, it will void the warranty. Good review. Subscribed.
I have one of these also. I love it! I’ve had several m&p’s and I feel like the trigger is noticeably better in the 45 guns. Also I think the recoil of 45 is more of a roll compared to a snap in 9. It’s definitely a solid gun.
I have the subcompact version of this and it's extremely accurate and feeds any type or brand of ammo without any feed problems.Having said that,I just ordered the full size version.I am getting rid of my glock 30sf.
I've had the same experience with all my m&p's. Steel case, aluminum case, brass. No issues whatsoever. Even the Shield and Plus models were accurate out of the box.
You're great at your job. Great production quality 😅
I had to sand down the location of where the manual safety is cuz the sharp edge was digging into my thumb.
These are excellent pistols
I have 9mm M2.0 and 45 and 9mm compact non M2; triggers are really good on both. Even 9mm full size after changing the spring is not bad. New texture is fantastic but I carry bigger size guns in cold months so it doesn't abrade the skin anyway. M&Ps are perfect size guns without bulkiness of wider slides of more expensive guns. Guns sit low in the hands not like Sigs and H&Ks. I cringe when other posters trying to say that low bore axis doesn't matter
Uno smith even nailed it with the look of them just a great looking handgun with a outstanding finnish love that armorite finnish and the machining is honesty 2nd too none hands down and i have always carried a glock19 25 + years so im really thinking about maybe adding the 2.0 compact in 45acp. And have that. 19 sized handgun with 45aco caliber. 👌
For me i liked the stock trigger and wasnt to bothered by it. Here in Canada it was like 200 bucks cheaper than going for a glock in the same caliber
I just bought the m p 45 2.0 a month ago
Excellent feel control and accuracy
Excellent stopping power
This is a nice gun . With that being said the Glock 30S as an EDC is the absolute best .45 striker fired platform. Slightly smaller than a G19 or 2.0 Compact and it’s 10 rounds of .45 . Great video !
my edc is an hk vp9 or this m&p 2.0 45 depending on the clothes I'm wearing
Finally managed to tell myself to order a 2.0 Compact 3.6" in 9mm, and boy am I glad I did! I will say that the slide is much harder to manipulate, but with time it's just a difference I notice coming from my Glock 19, and something I can easily get used to. The grip is the BEST there is, point blank, it's what makes this gun stick to your hands like glue. Anyways, great video. I have one Glock in .45 and I can't see ever getting anything else in that cartridge, 9mm is for me!
Definitely a 9mm fanboy myself
M&P 2.0 with the apex trigger is hard to beat!
Ask the Chief!
It’s hard to beat without upgrading the trigger.
@@maxfit68906 I’m always amazed how many folks drop a new trigger in a new gun rather than breaking in the factory trigger. I’ve been shooting stock Glock triggers since ‘97... and shoot them extremely well . KOM674
@@thomascarpenter7415 -- Even broken in... It's not just the take up and the creep before the break... it's inconsistency.
Creep-creep-creep break at 4 lbs 11 oz.
Creep-creep break at 5 lbs 3 oz.
Creep-creep-creep break at 4 lbs 15 oz
The trigger is different every stroke and vague.
If you have ever shot a hand fitted and tuned 1911 where the entire trigger stroke is 1/8", straight back, with no take up and no over-travel, breaking at 4 lbs every time, it's easy to see how much better a trigger can be. I have heard people talk about 'reset' on a 1911 trigger... the term hardly applies. In general, compared to that, a striker-fired pistol's trigger is terrible. The Apex trigger kit improves the trigger by like 70%.
@@HalfCrazy520 Polymer pistols are certainly much different than a 1911 . If the Apex makes it better for you , go for it .
Love the M&P 2.0 series. Wish they came from the factory with the flat/Apex trigger. Still a great handgun. i love mines ❤
Slippage... especially when it’s wet. Well said
KSGunGuy Lmao - Get that mind out of the gutter KS!
we all suffer from slippage
M&P’s are great pistols for sure, even better with an Apex! Carry on
They sure are
@MADx TITAN -- At the risk of repeating myself...
The stock M&P trigger, even broken in... It's not just the take up and the creep before the break... it's inconsistency.
Creep-creep-creep break at 4 lbs 11 oz.
Creep-creep break at 5 lbs 3 oz.
Creep-creep-creep break at 4 lbs 15 oz
The trigger is different every stroke and vague.
If you have ever shot a hand fitted and tuned 1911 where the entire trigger stroke is 1/8", straight back, with no take up and no over-travel, breaking at 4 lbs every time, it's easy to see how much better a trigger can be. I have heard people talk about 'reset' on a 1911 trigger... the term hardly applies. In general, compared to that, a striker-fired pistol's trigger is terrible. The Apex trigger kit improves the trigger by like 70%. It'll never be a high end 1911, but it can sure get better than stock.
@MADx TITAN -- This is what I get for trying to agree with someone who just wants to feel superior. You completely missed the intent of my reply.
I bought my first custom, hand fitted 1911 in 1986 at a cost that was probably over a month's salary at the time, in .45 ACP of course, so I'm probably just a dumb noob.
@MADx TITAN -- Yeah, I'm 12... but bought my first decent 1911 in 1986...
@MADx TITAN -- Please point out where I disagreed with anything you said. I gave my opinion of why people feel the need to upgrade the triggers in these guns (at least why I do). I also stated that the Apex is a big (70%) improvement.
If you want to argue, here I'll give you something to hate me for. I wouldn't piss on a Glock if it was on fire. Have at it...
Looking at one right now along with a G21. I love the made in America thing and great customer service. Decisions decisions. Thanks for the vid.
Lyle Caudill look at a Sig P320 full size in 45acp. I took my time and asked for advice before buying a 45acp and between the G21, M&P 2.0 and the P320 - the Sig won. The softest shooter of the 3 and it comes with factory Sig night sights and a holster. Anyway, just wanted to share. Good luck.
U still have the p320 45? Has it been reliable?
I have an apex in all of my M&P's. Love them.
I've tried to sell my M&P 45 four times because I just want to have 9mm, but I cant do it. It's the best shooter I own in terms of precision. I figure it's good insurance if we have another 9pocalypse. I always saw .45 on the shelves when 9mm and .22lr were impossible to find. I'm also in a capacity limited state, so if I can only have 10, why not have 10 big ones. ;)
I totally understand I'm going to live in New York ugh
Ha! I'm in the market for one and your piece makes me want it even more!
People are scared of 45 thats why they are hard to sell
Great video! Great gun! I just converted my S&W M2.0 45 to 460 Rowland! 9mm's are for wimps.
Thanks and yes the entire 2.0 line is fantastic
Really nice, thorough review. I have a few 45's but I really like my Shields and I'd like to try out its big brother.
Great deal on the 2.0. My next semi will either be a 2.0 or CZ 75B. Two different beasts. Ammo cost becomes mute when you reload. 200 rounds of .45 would cost me about $30 if I had the brass which I do but no .45 in the safe now. I just pressed out 400 rounds of full house .357 for $56. Takes some time but well worth it. If your just into 9mm than no big deal but if you want to expand and not spend $$$$ every range outing reloading is the way to go.
Yes it is. I reload 40 S&W for 0.10 a round and 45 ACP for pennies more.
Same set I have, Alex flat with an inforce light attached and Xs Big dot, the biggest dot they hate. It's a war pistol now.
I have the m&p 45 compact been thinking of getting the full size for compatibility.
I have model #11523 and have to admit I really like it. Factory trigger could be better but overall no complaints at all. Love the palmswells
I've been wanting the newer model M&P. I have the original in 9mm and its an awesone gun. I dont have a 45acp yet, Ive shot my buddies 1911 in 45acp, but I'm really liking the M&P 2.0 and fill that niche of having a 45acp.
the 2.0 is fantastic
Great video! I have the 9mm and want that trigger on it. Such a great gun
I have thought about purchasing this same pistol but in 9mm. Let me say I absolutely love the .45 caliber platform over 9mm. I currently own a Glock G21 G4 & it’s about the same exact size as this S&W pistol. My G21 has a 13+1 .45 capacity & I can tell you it is bulky & it’s heavy to EDC. If I do indeed purchase this pistol it will definitely be in 9mm. For the record I currently own 4 .45 caliber pistols don’t need a 5th. Great video & subscribed!!!!🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷
This is a good video. And a good point about the difrent calibers. I try to train with all types of calibers. As far as the gun they are great guns M&P make a great gun. I'm a 9mm person that's what I carry. But I will also own a 45 for training purposes. I carry a 9mm and I'm set with that. But I want to own a 45. Thanks for this video. And thanks for sharing.
Thanks
After shooting my brand new M&P 40 2.0, I immediately new it needed a different trigger. After looking at different videos, i have ordered the Apex flat face. Other than the trigger I LOVE the 40. As for the M&P 45 2.0, i am looking forward to getting their new CORE model. I will add the apex trigger to that as well.
Great review nice m&p 2.0 45acp. I own two Glocks 21 and 30 gen4 45acp and two m&p 1.0 9mm 5"Pro and Compact. And I can fill the Defense in recoil.
Nice pick up no doubt...I hope to get one but the wonderful state in CA make it difficult due to the approved gun list....I hope I get lucky to get one in 9mm....Good info and vid....Good stuff....
Nice!...Now if they only would make a c.o.r.e in .45...been waiting for that for years😱😱😱
Thanks to Instagram I know to look for what I missed while trying to wrap the giveaway up. 45acp 👍🏻 They shoot well for sure.
All it’s missing is a Floyd’s custom baseplate with magwell. They offer +1 and +3.
I purchased s&w mp 45 c awhile back & traded it in for Glock 19. I was able obtained a used s & w 45 c. 😊
Just got the email mine is ready for pickup at my nearest Cabela’s. Can’t wait to go pick it up. Was hesitant after making the order but I think you just sealed the deal. 😎
Your videos are always great. Kudos to some good thoughts on the M&P. Now the honesty. I have owned M&P’s in the past and they were just ok for me. I owned several in fact but sold all of them. Regardless of cost, I just didn’t like them as much as CZ, Walther, Glock, FN or even Beretta. Honestly in the same price range, I like Canik better but the M&P isn’t a bad gun just doesn’t do anything for me. Great video!
I bought this gun on Friday… put 200 rds through it yesterday. Smooth Asf
12k + rounds thru my m&p 45 2.0 full size. Not a single malfunction to date. 80% full power reloads 20% factory ammo.
You got a great deal on that. With the trigger you have one of the top pistols. Nice review.
Wylie Guns absolutely
Good video - thank you.
I don't know if I can weigh in on the 2.0 compared to other pistols , as it's my first. I have the compact 9 and I don't have anything negative to say about it ..I really like the pistol ..as far as the grip texture it's really ok it took about a good month to get used to it on my skin .. the stock sights work but I would like to get something brighter soon ..
Just bought one. Waiting my hold wait! Feels great in my hand. Think I made the right choice after seeing all the reviews
Hopefully Smith makes a 2.0 core model soon. I've recently become addicted to pistols with red dots on them and I'd love to have a 2.0 compact with a red dot on it
That would be something
Another great review Sir. Now all you have to do is upgrade the sights.
I own 3 m&p 2.0's. I'm looking forward to getting the new 10mm.
Good input. Thanks. I have to agree with you on the 2.0.
I carried & still carry the 40c 1.0. I purchased the full size 2.0 40 and I am very pleased with the upgrades. The stock trigger is a good bit better. I am taking your Apex suggestion into consideration. You are not alone on that point. Good vid
It definitely is my first M&P 1.0 was horrible but the apex makes the trigger an elite one plus you can adjust the weight to your liking
I have 2 M+P 9mm ,And a .40. My next Gun is the M+P 2.0 45 acp. Thanks for the great Review
I have one , like you said the Apex trigger is a personal choice. I find the trigger to be excellent.I have put over 700 rounds threw mind.One thing that I did notice, after 100 rounds it gets really warm, I’m going to get a heat gun, an find out the exact temperature, I don’t know if it’s because of the aluminum casing on the shells or not.
My 1.0 can get hot if I shoot a lot quickly. It takes a good 100 rounds or so to heat that slide up, though Ive had it pretty damn hot a couple times doing some drills with some friends. I also shoot the Federal Aluminum cased rounds, though it makes no difference with the heat vs brass. At least the trigger does not transfer that heat otherwise that might be uncomfortable.
I would carry it but I bought an xdm 4.5, same class, with the intention of carrying it. lot of weight so make sure you have suspenders available, lol.
I have several of the M/P line from 22 to 45 and they are awesome guns for the money and did you say they come with a lifetime warranty no matter who owns them!!
Love it!!!!!! The coolest gun ever....
M&p 45 original... no trigger upgrade love it best 45
lol same trigger
Looks like you're in a dungeon shooting, the ultimate man cave. Lol wish I had one.
Just bought this pistol. Looking for an owb holster for range and winter carry.
I've got a 9mm springfield right now and it's great, I'm looking for a 45 now as an open/field carry for when I'm going hunting (biggest thing in south alabama is a black bear) and this along with it being American as hell. I'm stuck between this gun and the ruger american in 45
check out those underwood 45acp+p 255gr hardcast at like 925 fps!!! they'll put a black bear down hard and make 2 holes with every shot almost every time!!! even on hogs!!!
@@Wildwestwrangler I will look Into them, thank you for the recommendation!
45s are Great Guns. The caliber is easy to shoot. Recoil is very manageable but weight is the issue for daily carry.
I'm late I know but I just bought one today !!!!!!
You add weight but you also hit with more weight (230 grains) which 9mm cannot do. I ended up getting this but in FDE.
Great review ! 👍 And Great buy on the M&P .45 Thanks 1776 ...... 👋
Thank you
The same people complaining about putting a 34 dollar trigger be the same ones buying 100 dollar metal sights for their glocks, extended take down levers, extended slide stops and more.
Why do people always look at guns as if you were to “carry” them...some people buy guns for other purposes like home defense.....IMO that gun is way to big for carry....give me my shield 2.0 in 9mm....
Good point, but bigger guns like this can easily be concealed by a coat in colder climates. I always wear a long coat so it will easily conceals an outside the waist band holster.
Some people open carry too. I carry a full size canik tp9sa, not everyone's cup of tea, but we love to have options.
If someone can shoot 45 as fast and accurate than 9mm in the same platform then they aren't shooting right! lol It is a great experience to shoot a 45 minus paying for ammo!
Line up at the 50 yard line with this gun, and you'll get it... It won't split like the 9 on faster targets, but if you have medium male hands or larger, the slightly longer reach to where the trigger breaks than on the 9&40, makes it a target pistol.
You should shoot the Springfield XD Mod2 in 45. Better stock trigger, not a big gun at all, 3 extra rounds and about the same cost under 400.
Do you install the Apex triggers yourself? Just wondering if it's too much to try if I've never done one. Great video as always, '76, thanks for sharing!
I've done all of them myself and it gets easier every single time
We have installation videos posted to guide you through the process.
I knew I'd like the M&P .45 m2.0 because I liked my first gen version. What I didn't expect was for it to become my favorite of all my handguns. Love it!
My trigger came perfect out of the box.
Great review! You earned a new subscriber.
much appreciated
Nice follow up video.
I need to try a full-size m&p. I had a shield. To small for me to shoot good. Was a great gun though.
Go for the compact
I like my smith and wesson 2.0 in 9mm. These guns are a great value.
tattooeddragon8 a steal imo
I've had a lot of experiences with the MP45 2.0 firearm.
Pros:
1: absolutely accurate.
2: excellent texture on the grip.
Cons:
1: failure to lock back on last round.
2: the weak front serrations.
I've carried this firearm for about a year now, and 2.5 years for its predecessor. I've easily put about 10k rounds through the 1.0 and about 3k through the 2.0.
The biggest issue is not gun not locking back. We've had SW representatives come out to our ranges, and they've blamed it on the old magazines. So SW sent us new followers and springs. However, we've still encountered the same issue with the same magazines that came with the 2.0. The new springs and followers worked the first few hundred rounds, then the slide wouldnt lock back again.
We thought it was the grip, but it did the same with strong hand and support hand only shooting.
We shoot out to 50yds for center mass hits and the gun performs well, it's extremely accurate. But you just have to round count all the time, and treat every condition 1 malfunction as a reload.
Have you tried the Glock .45 ACP...it’s huge. I’m a .40 cal guy but I’m in the market for a Shield 9mm for pocket carry.
I went to the gun shop and walked out with a Glock 22 and I tried tried the 45 and I might but it. I’m not a glocktard though...
Ricky Ramírez no I haven't I'm a 9mm guy and this thing was so cheap so I said WTH
I have the G22 and love it. But I am very happy with my M&P 2.0 compact 9mm and the gun in this video is definitely y next gun. I am a huge Glock fan but I now also and huge M&P fan.
To note the 2.0 trigger feels better far as reset n break but the feel of the hinged still sucks
Nice review. Just curious what sort of background are you using?
Blue cotton cloth
Good video sir. I have a question for you. I noticed your arm tattoo is the Cuyahoga or Tuscarora tribal tattoos? I'm always on the lookout for my Creek and Iroquois brethren. Nya:wëh sgë:nö'
Thanks and interestingly enough it's a self designed Maori tribal on both arms. I appreciate your culture and am honored to be thought of being a part of your people.
I looked into the 45 M&P 2.0, I also looked into a 400 CorBon conversion barrel for it. Unfortunately no such animal. If there had been it would completely justify me picking one up. But as it stands 45 has no place with me.
Hunts4Food67 Are you asking is there a conversion barrel. Or are you asking if I would be interested in converting to it?
Yes, there is a M&P 45 conversion.
No, I'm not interested in it. It's a round that beats the snot out of guns. Even with a comp. Guns chambered in it rarely last long enough to even get to a 1000 rounds.
Hunts4Food67 Maybe you'd get that far. If you're really lucky. I know of a few that barely made half that. And I always doubt the claimed "round counts" I've heard on here. The weekend RO at one of my local ranges replaced parts on a converted G20 a couple of times before finally calling it quits. Even the 40 Super is hard on my Witness. I've broken the slide stop's barrel cam pin twice over the years. LoL.
***BTW back when the 460 was a wildcat. Long before Rowland ever claimed he created it. It was common to hear of guys destroying their guns in just a few hundred rounds.
Hunts4Food67 Oh that's easy. Since its also my favorite cartridge. 9x23 Winchester, 357 Sig's performance is very similar though.
So I just bought this gun as a never issued police gun and it’s from Massachusetts and I know they have a law about a 10lb trigger…if I put an apex trigger in it would it still have that 10lb trigger pull or would I have to get a trigger job done?
No you'll be able to adjust the springs with the apex kit
Thanks for the review. I can’t decide between the M&P 2.0 and the G19, I want ro buy one of those and install an Apex. Which on do you like the most?
Well I just got the gen 5 19 and I love but that 2.0 compact with the Apex is simply perfect
I am picking one up at my local shop soon. Do you Install the apex trigger yourself?
We have installation videos posted to help you with the process, if you are handling the install yourself.