So I’m running double tap drills with the Shield 45 and shots are damn near on top of each other. So recoil is absolutely no issue. Best carry 45 ever made.
Shield .45 best carry ever? Naa... barrel's too short to get reliable expansion form hollow points and capacity is too low. Yeah, it conceals well but I wouldn't want to have to fight with it.
Is a self defense shooting, your gonna kill whoever you shoot with whatever self defense ammo you use in a 45acp. In 230gr the bullet will flower!!! Carry what you want and be accurate. The rest is for the lawyers!!!!
I say what works best for you, use it. For me I have carried some form of a 1911 45 acp my entire life. I have been school trained and feel very confident with my EDC.
As a vet, I used 1911 when I got out in1983 as my preferred carried gun. When I tried the Glock 30s .45cal for the first time I noticed it handled the recoil better than my heavier 1911. I expected because the Glock was lighter the recoil would be terrible, but I was wrong. I shoot and carry using 200-grain rounds. I also have a 9mm in my collection, but I only carry my Glock 30S 45cal and I expect I will always unless they sell phasers eventually.
Best handling full sized .45acp I own is the Taurus PT845. It's lightweight, SA/DA hammer fired, holds 12+1 and is an absolute tack driver! I own several far more expensive .45acp, but it and my Ruger American Compact .45 are my go-to EDC.
I was wondering if the polymer frame on the Glocks absorb most of the recoil shock? My Glock 20 (10mm) was very pleasant to shoot before I sold it (financial reasons😢).
I have a CZ-P10C TACTICAL 9mm. WHICH is an EXCELLENT weapon. BUTTT my carry is an GLOCK 30SF, and my AMMO of choice is 230 gr FMJ. At 15 YARDS and in. I can keep them in a 2 inch GROUP. KISS ALWAYS and OLD DEVIL DOG
I love my Glock 30S SF. It’s narrow enough to comfortably carry, and has the knockdown power that gives me peace of mind. I’m older with a disabled foot, so I can’t run away. I need the power.
You know if I had watched this video a year ago I would have agreed with every word you said. However, I am 53 and have shot 9mm for most of my life. I was always taught that 45 sucked, and I believed them. I got curious a couple of months ago and bought a Rock Island 5 inch 45. I am now PO'ed because I could have gotten that pistol a lot sooner. It has made me a 45 fan. I shoot it better at 20 yards than I do my best 9mm. I won't completely do away with my 9's but I carry that 45 a lot now. And I get to shoot it a lot more because it is so easy to cast bullets for it, which makes it cheaper to shoot believe it or not. (Disclaimer, as long as I can get primers) LOL
Funny enough the reason most people have an easier time shooting a compact or even a full length 1911 and 45 caliber is if you take into account to ballistics For example, the benefits of a 9 mm projectile over a 45 or present in full size pistols If you shoot a 45 caliber in a compact 1911, you’re getting better ballistics because most of the powder is being burnt, whereas with a 9 mm in a shortened handgun, most of the powder and benefits of the ballistics are seen with a full-size handgun Therefore, ballistically in a compact size of 45 is always going to be superior Size 9 mm full size 45 there is cons and pros on both sides. Realistically, I would rather reduce over penetration. And have a huge hole.
Just recently bought my first 45, a S&W Shield. The recoil isn't nearly as bad as I was expecting. Yes, more oomph than 9mm, but very manageable and accurate.
I got a 36 about a month ago. I find the 230gr FMJs a little snappy for carry use, so I have 185gr Critical Defense for carry and I'll buy more 185gr FMJ for range use. Also looking at a 21 and a 30S for future purchases.
While I carry several different pistols, according to clothing & situation, if I Knew I was going into a potential dangerous situation, I'd take a .45 acp Every time. Have seen them in action and they just work. Period. I have Never found the recoil to be a problem. A super light-weight 9 in a micro have a Much sharper recoil ! To each their own I guess.
I carried a full sized 1911A1 in .45ACP for years. Single stack. Concealed. My athletic build allows me to carry unbeknownst to others. I have no complaints.
I haven't shot my 1911 since I bought a CZ 97B .45 if that says anything... but I carry a Sig 320 .45 that holds 10, is the same size as a Glock 19, and only weighs 26 ounces. As much as I love (and always have) the 1911, it's a big and heavy pistol to carry concealed. I did, however, carry an Officers' model .45 for a long time.
@@HalfCrazy520 I have the "figure" for carrying concealed. I carry it close, snug like when I'm with my wife. May explain why we have nine kids together. I don't force it on anyone. I buy my kids the kind they want and will use. Most are prior combat Marines and Army having fought in Iraq and Afghanistan.
@@HalfCrazy520 one daughter carries a Colt Commander in .45ACP. the boys carry what they want. I have nothing against other firearms. Or calibers. I know know what bullets can and can't do. It was my living.
I served in the Marine Corps as a 0331 machine gunner, carried a 45 cal colt. I retired from the Chicago Police Dept - while working carried a 45 cal. colt. I go to the range once a week on average .Shoot 100 rds. of 9mm from a Hellcat (which I carry in warm weather) and 100 rds. of 45 from a Sig 320 compact (colder weather easier concealability). I have more discomfort shooting the 9 vs. the 45 .... I am more accurate with the 45 at 10 -15- 20 yards. I'm 75 years old.
45 ACP is a battle tested tough round that’s been around since our grandfathers days. Plus they are plentiful worldwide. That alone is a deciding factor for me. I like Glock model 30 for conceal carry. Unless you are going hunting in the Siberian wilderness, 45ACP round with jacketed armor piercing hollow points are more than sufficient for self protection in urban situations.
It has interested me for some time many handgun carriers decry the venerable .45 ACP as being equal to their 9MM handguns. Then, they'll carry a pocket 380 and say they are well armed. I've seen too many shootings in my LEO career to claim 9MM are equal to or better than a 45 ACP. Carry what you will but practice as often as you can...most do not.
I pretty much agree with you and then I remember my high school job as a night clerk and dad gave my Grand dad's Colt 1903 in 32 ACP to cover six. I still have it and marvel that I never had to use it. It's still a good trainer for my grandkids.
Dude anybody who claims 9mm is equal to a .45 is retarded. I've heard people even try to claim the recoil is similar. Go shoot a 1911 side by side a Glock 19 and tell me the .45 isn't OBVIOUSLY more powerful. The holes are bigger and the thing fucking goes BANG 😂 needles to say I'm slowly moving away from 9mm. More rounds are great for people who just wanna throw rounds around sloppily.
I typically carry my G19, but sometimes I do carry my G30sf or my Kimber CDP Pro II. My qualification groups and times are about the same between the three weapons (with a slight accuracy advantage to the Kimber). Since I have been shooting for many years, I can honestly say that I don't notice the recoil. However, my daughter - who has been shooting substantially less time than I have, still has not problem keeping rounds on target with any of the three firearms. "Recoil" or "kick" has never been a complaint from anyone (from kids to adults) that have shot either of my .45s.
A 45 caliber is just as good a caliber as any. If one can shoot a 9mm they can shoot and handle a 45acp in my opinion. Nowadays most use a Glock or striker-fired weapon for 45acp, more knowledgeable shooters use the 1911 type pistols in its traditional single stack 8 plus 1 with a 5-inch barrel that’s no big deal with its slim frame and I love the platform and carry it often due to it being used by me in the army.
I EDC Glock 21 gen 4 in vedder aiwb loaded with hornady 185 critical defense,sights are Trijicon HD XR Night sights with Orange front post. I also carry 3" officer 1911 in my EDC rotation, loaded with hornady 165 critical defense , sights Dawson Precision Blacked out rear and red fiber optic front. I have no issues with either both run flawlessly. I lean more towards the G21 due to higher mag capacity.
After 25 years of carrying a .45 Government, sixteen years ago moved to the more compact Para Ordinance .45 Commander size 10 bullet magazine. Heavy, but concealable. With Hoag grips, feels fine in my large hands.
I went in the Army in 1972 they had the 1911 .45 ACP I love that cablier, I'm carrying the RIA 1911 with the 4.25" barrel, my SD ammo is the xltreme defender 135gr.
Anyone who likes .45 or is on the fence about it because of capacity should try to get their hands on an FNX-45. Fantastic gun, high capacity, simple field strip, accurate, comfortable, lots of features of you want to upgrade/expand, and cheaper than any comparable Glock or 1911 with similar features. Not a small gun for concealed carry, but the best .45 for the price hands down
I Carry A Smith & Wesson Model 25-5 .45 Long Colt. Been Carrying That Puppy For Over 25 Years Now. Lots Of Knockdown Power And Isn't That Why You Carry A Firearm? Stay Safe Out There. 🙏
Respect to the guy im more than positive he has shot more guns and more calibers than me. Although I have to say the Smith and Wesson m&p 45 compact doesn't beat me up at all and I spend hours at the range training with it. Once again respect to the video but I love my 45
My choice is the CZ 97B. 45 acp. 10 round all steel and you have the option of a first shot double action. The weight tames the recoil and the grip in my hands makes it an ideal point and shoot weapon, no sights needed out to 25 yards. I love this gun, after owning Sigs, Colts, Smiths and Glocks. The narrow slide helps in concealed carry. The only problem is I don’t think it is manufactured any longer. If you find one grab it. I think you will agree it is the nicest shooting 45 acp ever made.
That's a great gun. I have a regular 75 in 9mm that has been to Cajun gun works for their tune up and it is amazing pistol. I carry a 1911 in 45 auto, because it's like my grandfather said years ago, "if you consider yourself a man carry a man's gun, if you don't then carry a 9mm". He had a way with words.
I'm left handed and have been shooting a 1911 for over 40 years. I currently have a Les Baer Custom Carry. I find the only thing I need is the ambi safety. I control the slide stop and mag release with my index finger. I don't have to change my grip, just move my finger. I find this much easier on a 1911 than the slide release on a Glock.
My guess is you've never actually shot the 4 inch Shield 45. I own the ported version of this firearm. You'd be really surprized at how easy shooting it is!! I don't find it to have any more recoil than my 9's. It's an awesome shooter!!
I also own a S&W M&P Shield .45 yes the recoil can be rough. However I purchased Hogue rubber grips & installed on my Shield. The recoil is way much better & yes way more comfortable to shoot. Good grips certainly can make a difference.
He's spending all this time on why we shouldn't like a 45 caliber gun. But he's not that upto date on what is out there for the 45. The 45 shield performance center shoots great with a ported barrel. Springfield also makes a great small xds that shoots great according to alot of shooters. My 45 shield performance center is only a little bigger than the 9mm version and is easily controllable. The hst 45 round also expands reliably much bigger than a 9mm, dumping it's energy into the target with less over penetration. The fact is, just get what you prefer in caliber and handgun choice and if you can put your rounds on target then you should be fine. This is just my opinion, since I'm tired of people caliber bashing. You are trying to stop the bad guy yes, but I wonder how well it goes over in court blasting 15 rounds of 9mm into the bad guy. And if it's better to actually shoot less rounds, then I prefer my round are bigger on the chance they might have a slightly better chance of hitting something vital and bigger hole to bleed out through. Just some thoughts from someone other than a 9mm only club.
Well said!!! And I spoke to a lawyer and self defense expert. He also said "The number of rounds you shoot plays a significant role in your self defense case"!!!
Like it or not, in modern America the fewer rounds shot the better off you are in court. Americans do not like crazy gun nuts who shoot up the neighborhood even in self defense.
I have a Shield 45. The hinged trigger is much better than the 9mm models. Yes she kicks, yes she's heavy for her size, yes magazine capacity is limited. But I shoot it very well think I'll keep it.
I saw that video, and others where Bill says he carrie’s a WC 1911 in 9mm, I don’t know, I own a few high end 1911’s; A Night Hawk carry plus,ShadowHawk Commander and a Wilson Combat Ultra Light Commander ; they are all in . 45 ACP, and I won’t own one in 9mm. If I carry a 9mm, it might. be my sig or FN compact, but I usually carry if not a 1911, a shield performance center in .45 ACP.I’m a retired LEO, I hear alot of younger guys preach that the only viable carry is a mega round ; Glock type pistol, but i’ll probably keep carrying my .45 ACP, you didn’t piss me off, I’ve heard it before , maybe as I grow older , and my arthritis gets worse , i’ll give my 1911’s to my sons and get one in 9mm, but some how it doesn’t sit right with me
You can make an argument for or against any gun, any caliber. Handguns are personal. Not all handguns or calibers work for all people. Someone with smaller, weaker, hands might not be able to shoot a small framed handgun in 45 acp, just as someone with giant meat hooks might not be able to shoot one of the new, tiny, micro 9mm's well. If you find a handgun that you can conceal well and shoot well, then that is the right carry gun for you.
My personal experience caused me to disagree with you. My former Springfield EMP 9mm, 3” barrel weighted 27 oz. It was a snappy little devil. I sold it. My Kimber Ultra CDP, .45 ACP .3” barrel weights 25 oz. It is not snappy, the recoil is smoother than the 9. My 81 year old hand likes the .45 recoil a LOT better. I have a WC Protector, a full size stainless 1911. I think Bill Wilson is following the trend about 9mm. He wants to sell more guns, and the shooting public has swallowed the 9mm Kool Ade.
I agree with you sir. I have the Shield 45, along with 4 other short barreled 9mm polymer handguns. I'm 63 and only 158 pounds. Yeh, you know the "gun went off"...in .45 acp. ...holy crap if you don't know if your Glock 43X went off, you should not be carrying.
The 9mm is a popular seller because it's ubiquitous. The 9mm is ubiquitous because it's a popular seller. Actual performance in the field was never a reason for its success.
I carry my Glock G21 as my EDC. Absolutely love everything about the pistol & most if all I love the 13+1 capacity. Yes it’s bigger & wider but it’s also a double stack. I will tolerate being a little bigger & heavier for more capacity.
I also carry a G21 in a tier one axis slim some days over a G19 or G23, can’t argue with 14rds of 45 federal hst 230gr, also another pro to the bigger gun is less felt recoil and control.
For me , I’ve always been 9mm but then I got an HK45 from my friend because I love HK and would like to have every caliber because I love firearms . Now 45 is my home defense handgun. I like that it’s slower and less likely to over penetrate while delivering a nasty wound cavity, it’s always a very big handgun and shoots really nice and I’m very accurate with it. I might end up using my 5.7 for home defense but haven’t trained with it enough and found the right ammo yet. But 9mm for IWB , and I keep my 5.7 in my bag. I just got a M&P 2.0 10mm that I’m extremely fond of and may be a carry option moving forward in rotation for certain situations and the winter time. I have to find the right ammo because over penetration is important to me personally. But I like the versatility of 10mm. I can have a nasty ass load or a load that performs closer to a .40 SW. so it’s still more bang than my 9mm. I love the way that gun feels in my hand. PSA will be coming out with a 5.7 rock compact and I’ll definitely be getting it when it’s released. I love how 5.7 works. The capacity and how fast and explosive it is but dumps all that energy and does jumping jacks and limits over penetration.
I loved your .40s&w videos, and think .40 is the greatest handgun round ever created. However, while I carry a Glock 23 Gen5, I think the Glock 30 is the most accurate Glock pistol because it tends to torque less in the hand. It has the perfect power:capacity ratio, particularly for restricted states. The G23 is noticeably more punishing to shoot than the G30. I think the learning curve is far less steep for 230gr .45 than 180gr .40.
Thank you for viewing and your comments! Always appreciate the vast level of experience in this business and the insight and would agree with the remarkable accuracy of Glock's sub compact guns. I cannot speak however to specific models compared to another but have a Glock 29 and that rascal SHOOTS! Thanks again and be safe.
@@AmmoMart Word on the street is, a Lone Wolf .40 conversion barrel in the G29 will not only feed reliably with stock mags, but also feel like shooting a 9mm and allow for cloverleaf groups. Glock would do themselves a huge service by selling OEM conversion kits, though it'll probably never happen for fear of liability.
People today focus and tout so much on superiority of one cartridge vs another cartridge. Hogwash! Owning and shooting handguns in just about every caliber/cartridge configuration over the last 40 years has reinforced one thing to me. The size, type, controls and accuracy of a handgun are the most important aspects regarding a defensive handgun than the chambering. I would much rather face down an unskilled opponent using a tricked out high capacity 10mm than a highly skilled opponent with a 22LR revolver.
A .22 LR round will kill with a head shot or torso shot!!! It has a lot to do with shot placement. My personal opinion is I own a 9mm pistol 3-.45 pistols & a .357 magnum revolver!! I feel very comfortable carrying any of them for my personal protection!!
I'm 71 years old and have a Kimber pro carry ll and a S&W 4566TSW both in 46 and a Kimber micro 9 in 9mm. I carry daily and I have carried all 3. My favorite EDC is my Kimber 45 by far.
I'm a big guy, and have no problem concealing an H&K USP .45 Tactical. 12+1 capacity, accurate and ultra reliable. With the buffer spring, it has less felt recoil than some 9mm's I've fired.
Just my opinion but the one place a full size .45 really shines is the use for a nightstand/home defense tool. It being quieter than a 9mm or .40 makes a difference. Adding a suppressor on it in a home with long hallways is also nice. You might not get the same capacity as a 9mm but a double stack 13+1 is plenty at those distances imho. It will have light recoil as well and it's further mitigated if you're into adding lights on your gun. I'm thinking of a 5" full size Springfield XD. I love those guns actually.
Provided the bullet opens up, a .45acp will open up to about .75 caliber on impact. Physics and math says something big is more likely to tear up a vital organ than something little, per any given impact location. .45 doesn't need to be going crazy fast. It's 106 grains heavier than the ultra-common 9mm, It's still going to penetrate. A paint bucket will penetrate if filled with concrete and flung 80% the speed of sound.
That's why my carry Ammo is Underwood extreme penetrator 200gr in my Ccw.that is a Springfield Mil-spc with all Wilson combat mags 8rd in the gun and two 10rd for back up.
I hope Glock paid you well for that commercial. A bit long, but they'd be proud. I do find it odd that you don't mention a few key points, though: The number one thing a Glock guy buys after buying a Glock is new sights The laser grip issue is universal for all grip lasers unless the laser is placed under the barrel as opposed to mounted on the grip. Much can be done to reduce recoil regardless of caliber (weaker loads, different grain weights, hybra-porting, etc.). Follow-up shots have a lot to do with the firearm itself (SA vs. DA and so forth) and not just caliber. I mean, anecdotal is all fine and good . Personally, I lived in Alaska, and a former buddy is an officer there now (Fairbanks), and he carries an FN 45. Strange huh?
my first issued pistol in the Army was a 1911A1. I loved it and bought one as soon as I was old enough. I carried a 1911 full size on and off duty as a cop for many years. I carry a 9mm now. but I've fired so many round through 1911s, that's what I shoot the best. As far as HP bullet weight, test the rounds before carring them. I have some .45s that don't like 185 grain anything.
I carry the XDS in 45 acp. I am very accurate and shoot that gun well. It conceals well and is reliable in my years of shooting. Nothing wrong with the 45. 9 is good, 40 is good and 45 is good. Carry whatever you shoot well. To me the gun and how well you can shoot it is far more important than caliber.
But what you missed about Wilson and hackathorn conversation about carrying a 9 mm 1911 was, that they had shot 45 ACP for so many years that their hands were sore from shooting that many cartridges. And shooting the 9mmm was more comfortable for them. They never said that the 9-millimeter was a better cartridge. Which, it's not
Every gun nut has their favorite round and the gun they know they shoot best. The .45 ACP is an accurate caliber and with the right firearm the recoil is quite manageable. The Glock 30 frame soaks up the recoil and is very accurate if you do your part. The right holster is key for comfortable CC.
Excellent video sir! I happen to be a huge .45 fan, but I enjoy the education I get from videos like this. I mainly carry a Glock 19x (9mm). I used to own a Springfield XDM in .45 and I tell you that when I shot 230g hollow points in it, I swore I was shooting my .44 mag. Actually too much recoil for CCW for me. With today's hot 9mm loads and if your gun will fire high pressure ammo, a 9mm is the way to go. It's all about shot placement and what is comfortable for you.
Historically, the John Wick franchise has done more for the 9mm than any old opinion or better bullet options. Everyone likes the bullet hose, high round capacity wonder pistols and may have bought into the idea that somehow bullets seek out their targets. It’s not reality, only fantasy. However, practice is reality. If you live long enough, you will see this fragile thought almost everywhere that individuals have self doubt. If you can hold back your immediate fear and replace it with assured expectation based on reality and capability, recoil worries disappear like soap bubbles in a breeze. “A prepared mind” and all that it entails, along with muscle memory will do just fine. If you spend more money on ammo and practice than on the next “best” 9mm, you’re headed in the right direction. A tool is a tool, learn how to use it. If you just want to look cool, there’s an app for that.
I carried a .45 for years but, I switched to a .40 because of weight. Ya the 27 is snappy but hang onto the thing and it’s just fine. I will have my 74th birthday soon, maybe I will try the Glock.45, Mass said it was one of his best shooters. 🤷♂️ 🤗
Raised with a .45 ACP. I carry the weapon. I guess if you carry it most of your life, it's a natural. Don't care for the field stripping v. other calibers and makes, but again, it's an acquired taste.
I highly encourage people to not "switch" to another caliber when they demonstrate proficiency and have years of experience and knowledge with one caliber or platform. Shot placement wins fights and the 45 .acp is an effective round, just not superior in my mind. Thanks for viewing and we hope you continue sharing your knowledge and experience. My hope for the channel is discussion with our judgement. Be safe and see you soon.
Interesting. The best shots I have known in my life have demonstrated that prowess across a wide range of calibers. I’m pretty sure training and carrying in three different calibers has made me more likely to hit center mass should the need arise.
Springfield XD Mod 2 in .45. My EDC for over three years now. Never once had a malfunction with hundreds of rounds fired. Eats everything. Wouldn't carry anything smaller. 9mm are BB's and they don't stop anyone unless you get a lucky spine or head shot.
The 9mm isn't a terrible round but it has the worst fucking fans ever. 9mm fanboys have a VERY inflated idea of how the 9mm performs in short barrels, but in a full size service pistol with a 5"barrel and with +p gold dots, it does a fine job. I still prefer 10mm, 357mag, 45acp, and 44mag... because shooting twice is just silly 😁
@@ajm2872 ----To me it's a matter of size man. If I have a pebble and a rock and need to throw one at someone I'm not picking up the pebble. I want it to hurt and hurt badly.
My little Asian wife can shoot a few hundreds rounds through our 45 and loves it. Granted it’s a full size but still a grown man will have much bigger and stronger hands. The 9mm is fine my preference is the 45, and it’s not a small percentage of us that feel this way.
I wish I had NEVER gotten rid of my Springfield XDS in 45 acp. It shot just as easy and accurate as my 1911 Commander. If I ever get back into a decent financial condition I'll get another one. I like my Shield, (it's 9mm), but, even in 9mm, the XDS has less recoil/snap.
I trust my 1911 with my life . I lived and worked in Kuwait , Iraq, Afghanistan and a few other places that will remain nameless . I have seen the 9 millimeter fail, more than once. I don’t trust torso shots with anything less than 5.56 mm. My target is the central nervous system only .
1911 is a superior handgun? Home defense and range tool ,but not a great conceal carry? Excellent duty weapon? Definitely a shooters tool. I'm a terrible marksman with just about every handgun I own but my 1911 in 45 ACP always makes me look like I know what I'm doing. It is also the easiest to shoot one handed. Feels like it was designed with one handed use in mind.
Funny you say that. Back in the day soldiers were trained and require to learn to shoot the 1911 one handed. I often practice with my R1 one handed and it's just as accurate with one.or 2 hands...
I carry and shoot the 45 shield no problem with recoil. Yes it has recoil I agree but my main reason for carrying it for self defense is the fact it is slow less penetration but effective penetration using hollow points it leaves a devastating wound channel and hopefully will not over penetrate and hit someone. I been looking at a new bullet call interpreter I believe that expands really good only penetrates ballistic gel like 8 or 9 inch's massive wound channel
Agreed, I own .380, 9mm, ruger sr1911 and .357 and my 1911 is extremely accurate and very comfortable to conceal and shoot. I run Hornady critical defense through it and it shoots very well.
I think I see where you are coming from or at least the message you are trying to convey. However, I thought your video was a bit condecending to those who like their 45's. I like a 9mm and its a perfectly valid option, but so is 45. I can tell you from experience (Military and LEO), I have seen way more people walk away after being shot with a 9mm. Never the less, handguns in any caliber are inefective if you are not proficient with the gun you carry. Shot placement is king to any caliber you carry. So carry whatever you want and train with that weapon to proficiency.
My only time with the Gov't. Model was just out of the service circa 1973-74. I worked part-time for our small county seat PD. Had to have the Series 70 Mk. 4 ramp throated (polished) to feed the 185 JHPs. Probably not a factor in later models but could be with older GMs along the way. If I ever went back in time, would probably look for one in Super 38.
No, I don’t have to convert 1911’s other than add an ambidextrous safety, but I would do that if I were right handed. The purpose is operation with either hand while room clearing. The mag release is properly placed for left handed use.
I much prefer the 40 S&W, but I'd be quite well armed with a 45acp, especially the ParaOrdinance Warthog. I carried a P14 in 45 for years as a duty weapon. And a Colt Officers Model off duty. Disclaimer. I learned to shoot a handgun with a 1911A1 at age 16.
It's all personal choice. Personally I'll continue to carry and train with my Kimber ultra carry II in 45. It's an absolute tac driver and very manageable. Practice along with confidence in the weapon and yourselfs ability to use it no matter what caliber is more important than anything.
Speaking about ccw..States that allow 10 round magazine max, take the "umph" out of the 9mm X 15 plus rounds is better argument. ( it flies out the window ) I never see this point mentioned by youtube pundits.. By my math, 230 grains times 10 rounds is a lot more than 115 grains times 10 ? Same with all other available 45 ACP choices. Good pro 9mm conceal carry argument today is that it's a lot more potent than 380 acp pistols available now in about yesterday's 380 acp size pistol ( and smaller )
Man, your logic is flawed, please let me explain: Concealed carry is for personal protection, this means you only fire when your life is in danger. That might happen once or twice in your lifetime (hopefully never). This means you don't have to worry about the experience being fun or pleasant. What you do have to worry about is: Will the guy I'm shooting at go down after I shot him or is he gonna keep charging? Caliber does matter, the velocity of the projectile absolutely matters, and the weight of the projectile absolutely matters. Of course, shot placement matters too, but who can aim accurately under stress? Professionals mess up when they are under stress, so don't expect me to be calm and shoot all straight when someone is threatening my life. A 180-grain .45 acp is a great choice for self-defense because it's much more potent than 124-grain 9 mm and you don't need to empty a mag into a guy to stop him. For fun and practice, you might not wanna practice with a .45, but when it comes to taking people out, a .45 will beat a 9 mm every day of the week. A guy I used to know was shot twice in the chest with 9 mm hollow points 8 days ago. He walked 100 yards before he fell on the ground and died. Think about this before you tell people to choose a 9 mm for self-defense. The dude was going to die, no doubt, but he could still walk 100 yards, which means he could still shoot you and/or stab you to death. If he was shot with two .45 acp hollow points, he would drop right there. 9 mm is great for practice but sucks for self-defense...
I don't think the recoil on the 45 is much more than the 9mm. My glock 21 is very pleasant to shoot. It also doesn't weigh a lot. There is no doubt there is much difference in real power. Over many years I've noticed that when people are shot with 9mm their chances of living is many times better than those shot with a 45 caliber.
I remember working in a gas station when I was a younger man, and there was a doctor that came in all of the time for gasoline. There was a TV on up in the corner, and I believe the program that was on was called "Police Story". In the program a man was shot by someone with a .45ACP. The doctor commented that the man shot with that weapon would probably never have gotten off of the operating table. It was that lethal in his professional experience as he'd had plenty of experience as a trauma surgeon.
Maybe if you are an inexperienced shooter the .45 isn't your best option, but, I own the Shield .45, and it is very pleasant to shoot, and also very accurate. I own Glocks, and love them. The Shields are as good or better than my Glocks, and this .45 is an awesome concealed carry gun.
I'm a .45 guy, I admit it, and something of a fudd, I guess. My grandfather carried a 1911 in 1944-45 (typist in an hq), though he said he only ever fired it in anger once.
I absolutely LOVE my SHIELD 45acp. I carry it all day, EVERDAY. Carry with the 7+1 MAG and a spare. 230gr HST for my ammo!!! Also have a SHIELD PLUS 9mm!!!
My full size Gov’t model carries fantastic because it’s thin and using a Milt Sparks belt and 55BN you don’t feel the weight. My new Walther PPQ in 45 is also proving to shoot and carry very well. The carry caliber thing will always be a debate amongst many. I still trust the 45 more than other calibers for carry. Also, the thing he says here in this video about modern polymer guns and too much recoil? Not true. Shoot a G30. Very fast follow up shots.
45 acp Almost as powerful as a 10 mm but with less kick. I was hearing some war vets say. 1 had a 9 mm and 1 had a 45 acp. During war the 9 mm guy had to shoot three rounds to kill to every 1 45 round.on average. 10 mm and 40 cal can kick 🦵 really hard. 40 cal is meant to be full size I understood. And 10 mm has even more power.
Carry what works best for you. If a 454 casull works for you then carry it. A 45acp 1911 is a good carry. Don't let others tell you what's best for you to carry, unless you're a newbie.
3:06 for those who are left-handed shooters learn to be right handed you can do it. I hate it paying $10 extra for holsters to be left-handed so I put about 2 1/2 boxes and got my hand pretty much good enough to shoot, right handed cops do it all the time because they issued right handed holsters.
With the 45acp and 380 acp one really needs to do a lot of testing with different types of ammunition. These calibers are low pressure and slow so hollow point ammunition seems to struggle to expand properly depending on the gun. These calibers were designed back 1903 to 1908 so they were based on 45 colt or black powder revolvers they were designed to replace. At that time to the best of my knowledge hollow point bullets didn't exist so fmj or solid lead was the ammunition of that time
That's right 1911 Commander size Bobcut for CCW filled with Underwood extreme penetrator 200gr bullet.al Wilson combat mags 8rd in the gun and two 10rd for back up
The question as to which round is better to carry is an easy one to answer. Say you are in a gun fight, would you prefer to get hit by your adversary's .45 or 9mm? Any questions?
People! Check the law where you carry! Just brandishing a firearm is assault and battery in some places even if it stopped you from being STABBED TO DEATH ☠️! Keep your actions within the limits of the law! 😮😮😮😮
I like this video. You present a lot of information in a straight forward manner. At around the 5:20 mark you make the statement concerning the three .45's you just described "these guns are designed to carry a lot and shot a little". What exactly do you mean "shot a little"? I found that an odd statement.
I have a Springfield 1911 which I absolutely love and I am very accurate with. I have loved the 1911 since I was a kid. However, my carry is a Glock 30 GEN 4. I absolutely love that gun. I am extremely accurate with it. I also just purchased the Glock 21 full-size 45 ACP. Again, a very accurate gun to shoot. I put on Ameriglo sites on both my Glocks!
I have been a 1911 guy for most of my life as well. These days I carry a Sig P-320 Compact in .45 ACP. ruclips.net/video/tMFWaRQ8Zg8/видео.html I also have a CZ 97B .45 which is an amazing pistol.
45 in a polymer frame ain't as bad as a 40 SW. 45 acp is a low pressure round, only 19,000-23,000 chamber pressure, compared to a 40 sw, 40,000 psi. It pushes a big old chunk of lead around 900-1200 fps. A good stopper
What!!!!!u Tripping. That's my CCW Springfield Mil-spc with all Wilson combat mags 8rd in the gun and two 10rd filled with Underwood extreme penetrator 200gr bullet
No man most people don't feel that 185g 9mm is the best stopping round -- FBI doesn't feel that way either. They use .40 which has slightly more hitting power than a 9mm and .45 crushes them both -- thats the truth. What you get with a 9mm is additional rounds so IF.. and thats a BIG if, knowing that most gun fights or defensive stands are within 15ft, if you are faced with "overwhelming ods" you can counter with "overwhelming firepower" -- and that is one way to look at it. The other is you don't need 7 shots to put something down. One will do it. 9mm is going to be lighter and more concealable. A comment you frequently hear of those that have shot a .45 for the first time is "that doesn't feel any different than a 9mm" and I am one of those that agrees with that statement. Try this .. the Taylor Knockout Formula = Velocity (FPS) x weight (of bullet) x the diameter of the bullet divided by 7000 (puts the answer in pounds) and you get your true stopping power. Example: Classic Match | 9mm | 147GR FMJ avg 900 feet per second -- 147 x 900 x .355 (diameter of 9mm bullet) = 46, 966.5 / 7000 = 6.7095 Knockdown power. Example 2: Federal American Eagle 45 ACP 230 Grain FMJ | 890 FPS = 230 x 890 x .452 / 7000 = 13.22 Knockdown power. Clearly far more stopping power. That choice between stopping power and overwhelming firepower will end up being a personal choice.
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My Glock 30s with the sf frame is a pleasure to shoot and carry. I use to carry 9mm, now I go with .45acp
So I’m running double tap drills with the Shield 45 and shots are damn near on top of each other. So recoil is absolutely no issue. Best carry 45 ever made.
Shield .45 best carry ever? Naa... barrel's too short to get reliable expansion form hollow points and capacity is too low. Yeah, it conceals well but I wouldn't want to have to fight with it.
Ballistics suck from short barrel .45”s ... 4 inch is the minimum for .45... even then you have to go light for caliber to get decent ballistics..
@@pabloescobar7802 Not necessarily... Federal HSTs routinely expand to .9" from a Shield .45... but I still don't do shorter than 3.9".
Is a self defense shooting, your gonna kill whoever you shoot with whatever self defense ammo you use in a 45acp. In 230gr the bullet will flower!!!
Carry what you want and be accurate. The rest is for the lawyers!!!!
I love my shield 45. It’s a very reliable gun.
I say what works best for you, use it. For me I have carried some form of a 1911 45 acp my entire life. I have been school trained and feel very confident with my EDC.
Accuracy of shot placement is of greater importance than caliber.
As a vet, I used 1911 when I got out in1983 as my preferred carried gun. When I tried the Glock 30s .45cal for the first time I noticed it handled the recoil better than my heavier 1911.
I expected because the Glock was lighter the recoil would be terrible, but I was wrong. I shoot and carry using 200-grain rounds. I also have a 9mm in my collection, but I only carry my Glock 30S 45cal and I expect I will always unless they sell phasers eventually.
Best handling full sized .45acp I own is the Taurus PT845. It's lightweight, SA/DA hammer fired, holds 12+1 and is an absolute tack driver! I own several far more expensive .45acp, but it and my Ruger American Compact .45 are my go-to EDC.
I was wondering if the polymer frame on the Glocks absorb most of the recoil shock? My Glock 20 (10mm) was very pleasant to shoot before I sold it (financial reasons😢).
I have a CZ-P10C TACTICAL 9mm. WHICH is an EXCELLENT weapon. BUTTT my carry is an GLOCK 30SF, and my AMMO of choice is 230 gr FMJ. At 15 YARDS and in. I can keep them in a 2 inch GROUP. KISS ALWAYS and OLD DEVIL DOG
I love my Glock 30S SF. It’s narrow enough to comfortably carry, and has the knockdown power that gives me peace of mind. I’m older with a disabled foot, so I can’t run away. I need the power.
45 acp in a 5 inch 1911 is very accurate,that's probably why swat team 's and military counter terrorists unit's use them.
So are the Walther PPQ in .45acp, not to mention the smooth, light trigger.
I’m sure but the 1911 is bulky and heavy to carry
@@wizardofahhhs759 So are the Sig P-320, S&W M&P, and HK .45... but the 1911 is the standard by which triggers are measured.
@@HalfCrazy520 And the weakest magazine springs from the factory.
@@johnharris8191 A 1911 is only as good as the magazines you shove into it.
You know if I had watched this video a year ago I would have agreed with every word you said. However, I am 53 and have shot 9mm for most of my life. I was always taught that 45 sucked, and I believed them. I got curious a couple of months ago and bought a Rock Island 5 inch 45. I am now PO'ed because I could have gotten that pistol a lot sooner. It has made me a 45 fan. I shoot it better at 20 yards than I do my best 9mm. I won't completely do away with my 9's but I carry that 45 a lot now. And I get to shoot it a lot more because it is so easy to cast bullets for it, which makes it cheaper to shoot believe it or not. (Disclaimer, as long as I can get primers) LOL
Funny enough the reason most people have an easier time shooting a compact or even a full length 1911 and 45 caliber is if you take into account to ballistics
For example, the benefits of a 9 mm projectile over a 45 or present in full size pistols
If you shoot a 45 caliber in a compact 1911, you’re getting better ballistics because most of the powder is being burnt, whereas with a 9 mm in a shortened handgun, most of the powder and benefits of the ballistics are seen with a full-size handgun
Therefore, ballistically in a compact size of 45 is always going to be superior
Size 9 mm full size 45 there is cons and pros on both sides. Realistically, I would rather reduce over penetration. And have a huge hole.
Just recently bought my first 45, a S&W Shield. The recoil isn't nearly as bad as I was expecting. Yes, more oomph than 9mm, but very manageable and accurate.
Love the video, I am a bigger guy and like the 45acp. G30 is thick but i like glock reliability. I carry the g36.
I find my Glock 36 to be far more shootable than my Glock 30
I got a 36 about a month ago. I find the 230gr FMJs a little snappy for carry use, so I have 185gr Critical Defense for carry and I'll buy more 185gr FMJ for range use. Also looking at a 21 and a 30S for future purchases.
While I carry several different pistols, according to clothing & situation, if I Knew I was going into a potential dangerous situation, I'd take a .45 acp Every time. Have seen them in action and they just work. Period. I have Never found the recoil to be a problem. A super light-weight 9 in a micro have a Much sharper recoil ! To each their own I guess.
I carried a full sized 1911A1 in .45ACP for years. Single stack. Concealed. My athletic build allows me to carry unbeknownst to others. I have no complaints.
I haven't shot my 1911 since I bought a CZ 97B .45 if that says anything... but I carry a Sig 320 .45 that holds 10, is the same size as a Glock 19, and only weighs 26 ounces. As much as I love (and always have) the 1911, it's a big and heavy pistol to carry concealed. I did, however, carry an Officers' model .45 for a long time.
@@HalfCrazy520 I have the "figure" for carrying concealed. I carry it close, snug like when I'm with my wife. May explain why we have nine kids together. I don't force it on anyone. I buy my kids the kind they want and will use. Most are prior combat Marines and Army having fought in Iraq and Afghanistan.
@@davidbenner2289 Okay...
@@HalfCrazy520 one daughter carries a Colt Commander in .45ACP. the boys carry what they want. I have nothing against other firearms. Or calibers. I know know what bullets can and can't do. It was my living.
@@HalfCrazy520 🤣🤣🤣 seriously
I served in the Marine Corps as a 0331 machine gunner, carried a 45 cal colt. I retired from the Chicago Police Dept - while working carried a 45 cal. colt. I go to the range once a week on average .Shoot 100 rds. of 9mm from a Hellcat (which I carry in warm weather) and 100 rds. of 45 from a Sig 320 compact (colder weather easier concealability). I have more discomfort shooting the 9 vs. the 45 .... I am more accurate with the 45 at 10 -15- 20 yards. I'm 75 years old.
45 ACP is a battle tested tough round that’s been around since our grandfathers days. Plus they are plentiful worldwide. That alone is a deciding factor for me. I like Glock model 30 for conceal carry. Unless you are going hunting in the Siberian wilderness, 45ACP round with jacketed armor piercing hollow points are more than sufficient for self protection in urban situations.
It has interested me for some time many handgun carriers decry the venerable .45 ACP as being equal to their 9MM handguns. Then, they'll carry a pocket 380 and say they are well armed.
I've seen too many shootings in my LEO career to claim 9MM are equal to or better than a 45 ACP. Carry what you will but practice as often as you can...most do not.
I pretty much agree with you and then I remember my high school job as a night clerk and dad gave my Grand dad's Colt 1903 in 32 ACP to cover six. I still have it and marvel that I never had to use it. It's still a good trainer for my grandkids.
Dude anybody who claims 9mm is equal to a .45 is retarded. I've heard people even try to claim the recoil is similar. Go shoot a 1911 side by side a Glock 19 and tell me the .45 isn't OBVIOUSLY more powerful. The holes are bigger and the thing fucking goes BANG 😂 needles to say I'm slowly moving away from 9mm. More rounds are great for people who just wanna throw rounds around sloppily.
I typically carry my G19, but sometimes I do carry my G30sf or my Kimber CDP Pro II. My qualification groups and times are about the same between the three weapons (with a slight accuracy advantage to the Kimber). Since I have been shooting for many years, I can honestly say that I don't notice the recoil. However, my daughter - who has been shooting substantially less time than I have, still has not problem keeping rounds on target with any of the three firearms. "Recoil" or "kick" has never been a complaint from anyone (from kids to adults) that have shot either of my .45s.
A 45 caliber is just as good a caliber as any. If one can shoot a 9mm they can shoot and handle a 45acp in my opinion. Nowadays most use a Glock or striker-fired weapon for 45acp, more knowledgeable shooters use the 1911 type pistols in its traditional single stack 8 plus 1 with a 5-inch barrel that’s no big deal with its slim frame and I love the platform and carry it often due to it being used by me in the army.
100% dude
I EDC Glock 21 gen 4 in vedder aiwb loaded with hornady 185 critical defense,sights are Trijicon HD XR Night sights with Orange front post.
I also carry 3" officer 1911 in my EDC rotation, loaded with hornady 165 critical defense , sights Dawson Precision Blacked out rear and red fiber optic front. I have no issues with either both run flawlessly. I lean more towards the G21 due to higher mag capacity.
I carry a Springfield trp operator 1911 everyday no problem.
After 25 years of carrying a .45 Government, sixteen years ago moved to the more compact Para Ordinance .45 Commander size 10 bullet magazine. Heavy, but concealable. With Hoag grips, feels fine in my large hands.
That's right .my carry is Underwood extreme penetrator 200gr.all Wilson combat mags 8rd and 10rd and that in my Springfield Mil-spc 1911 that I CCW
I went in the Army in 1972 they had the 1911 .45 ACP I love that cablier, I'm carrying the RIA 1911 with the 4.25" barrel, my SD ammo is the xltreme defender 135gr.
Anyone who likes .45 or is on the fence about it because of capacity should try to get their hands on an FNX-45. Fantastic gun, high capacity, simple field strip, accurate, comfortable, lots of features of you want to upgrade/expand, and cheaper than any comparable Glock or 1911 with similar features. Not a small gun for concealed carry, but the best .45 for the price hands down
The shield 45 shoots pretty good
I own a Shield & love it!!!
I Carry A Smith & Wesson Model 25-5 .45 Long Colt. Been Carrying That Puppy For Over 25 Years Now. Lots Of Knockdown Power And Isn't That Why You Carry A Firearm? Stay Safe Out There. 🙏
Over 50 years with the Government model 1911 in 45 acp. Carried one in the Army for seven years. Wouldn't make sense to change now.
Respect to the guy im more than positive he has shot more guns and more calibers than me. Although I have to say the Smith and Wesson m&p 45 compact doesn't beat me up at all and I spend hours at the range training with it. Once again respect to the video but I love my 45
Lehigh, Gorilla, and Underwood Extreme and ammo like it. Has renewed the 45acp. 135gr 1240fps. Around 16 inches in ballistics gel.
My choice is the CZ 97B. 45 acp. 10 round all steel and you have the option of a first shot double action. The weight tames the recoil and the grip in my hands makes it an ideal point and shoot weapon, no sights needed out to 25 yards. I love this gun, after owning Sigs, Colts, Smiths and Glocks. The narrow slide helps in concealed carry. The only problem is I don’t think it is manufactured any longer. If you find one grab it. I think you will agree it is the nicest shooting 45 acp ever made.
Yup CZ discontinued the 97 last year. What a shame.
That's a great gun. I have a regular 75 in 9mm that has been to Cajun gun works for their tune up and it is amazing pistol. I carry a 1911 in 45 auto, because it's like my grandfather said years ago, "if you consider yourself a man carry a man's gun, if you don't then carry a 9mm". He had a way with words.
Love my 97 and carry it occasionally in winter, but it's 48 ounces loaded, so I carry a Sig 320 .45 now.
I have one and I carry it whenever I'm wearing a jacket. Great shooting gun for sure.
I'm left handed and have been shooting a 1911 for over 40 years. I currently have a Les Baer Custom Carry. I find the only thing I need is the ambi safety. I control the slide stop and mag release with my index finger. I don't have to change my grip, just move my finger. I find this much easier on a 1911 than the slide release on a Glock.
My guess is you've never actually shot the 4 inch Shield 45.
I own the ported version of this firearm. You'd be really surprized at how easy shooting it is!!
I don't find it to have any more recoil than my 9's.
It's an awesome shooter!!
I also own a S&W M&P Shield .45 yes the recoil can be rough. However I purchased Hogue rubber grips & installed on my Shield. The recoil is way much better & yes way more comfortable to shoot. Good grips certainly can make a difference.
I just purchased a glock 30sf 45acp yesterday and i love it !!!
He's spending all this time on why we shouldn't like a 45 caliber gun. But he's not that upto date on what is out there for the 45.
The 45 shield performance center shoots great with a ported barrel. Springfield also makes a great small xds that shoots great according to alot of shooters. My 45 shield performance center is only a little bigger than the 9mm version and is easily controllable. The hst 45 round also expands reliably much bigger than a 9mm, dumping it's energy into the target with less over penetration.
The fact is, just get what you prefer in caliber and handgun choice and if you can put your rounds on target then you should be fine.
This is just my opinion, since I'm tired of people caliber bashing. You are trying to stop the bad guy yes, but I wonder how well it goes over in court blasting 15 rounds of 9mm into the bad guy. And if it's better to actually shoot less rounds, then I prefer my round are bigger on the chance they might have a slightly better chance of hitting something vital and bigger hole to bleed out through.
Just some thoughts from someone other than a 9mm only club.
Well said!!!
And I spoke to a lawyer and self defense expert. He also said "The number of rounds you shoot plays a significant role in your self defense case"!!!
Like it or not, in modern America the fewer rounds shot the better
off you are in court. Americans do not like crazy gun nuts who shoot up the neighborhood even in self defense.
Good input. I love my PC Shield in 9 and am looking for small 45 to carry. I'll check out the Shield.
I have a Shield 45. The hinged trigger is much better than the 9mm models. Yes she kicks, yes she's heavy for her size, yes magazine capacity is limited. But I shoot it very well think I'll keep it.
Enjoy your calm and reasoned presentation. Many thanks.
I saw that video, and others where Bill says he carrie’s a WC 1911 in 9mm, I don’t know, I own a few high end 1911’s; A Night Hawk carry plus,ShadowHawk Commander and a Wilson Combat Ultra Light Commander
; they are all
in . 45 ACP, and I won’t own one in 9mm. If I carry a 9mm, it might. be my sig or FN compact, but I usually carry if not a 1911, a shield performance center
in .45 ACP.I’m a retired LEO, I hear alot of younger guys preach that the only viable carry is a mega round ; Glock type pistol, but i’ll probably keep carrying my .45 ACP, you didn’t piss me off, I’ve heard it before , maybe as I grow older , and my arthritis gets worse , i’ll give my 1911’s to my sons and get one in 9mm, but some how it doesn’t sit right with me
You can make an argument for or against any gun, any caliber. Handguns are personal. Not all handguns or calibers work for all people. Someone with smaller, weaker, hands might not be able to shoot a small framed handgun in 45 acp, just as someone with giant meat hooks might not be able to shoot one of the new, tiny, micro 9mm's well. If you find a handgun that you can conceal well and shoot well, then that is the right carry gun for you.
My personal experience caused me to disagree with you.
My former Springfield EMP 9mm, 3” barrel weighted 27 oz. It was a snappy little devil. I sold it. My Kimber Ultra CDP, .45 ACP .3” barrel weights 25 oz. It is not snappy, the recoil is smoother than the 9. My 81 year old hand likes the .45 recoil a LOT better.
I have a WC Protector, a full size stainless 1911. I think Bill Wilson is following the trend about 9mm. He wants to sell more guns, and the shooting public has swallowed the 9mm Kool Ade.
I agree with you sir. I have the Shield 45, along with 4 other short barreled 9mm polymer handguns. I'm 63 and only 158 pounds. Yeh, you know the "gun went off"...in .45 acp. ...holy crap if you don't know if your Glock 43X went off, you should not be carrying.
I love the last part..."the shooting public has swollowed the 9mm kool aid."...😂👏👍🏻
The 9mm is a popular seller because it's ubiquitous. The 9mm is ubiquitous because it's a popular seller. Actual performance in the field was never a reason for its success.
@@ajm2872 AND it is cheaper than other semiautomatic ammo.
I carry my Glock G21 as my EDC. Absolutely love everything about the pistol & most if all I love the 13+1 capacity. Yes it’s bigger & wider but it’s also a double stack. I will tolerate being a little bigger & heavier for more capacity.
I also carry a G21 in a tier one axis slim some days over a G19 or G23, can’t argue with 14rds of 45 federal hst 230gr, also another pro to the bigger gun is less felt recoil and control.
@@VenomousKills absolutely!! I carry the Federal HST 230 grain + P ammo in all my .45 pistols. Very devastating & lethal
@VenomousKills I carry a Gen 4 G30 and sometimes a Gen 5 G21 , lol your dam right you can't argue with 14 rounds of 45 acp
@@bigandy2109 it’s a full loaded cannon!!!
Yep carry a Glock 21 Gen 5 no problem.
For me , I’ve always been 9mm but then I got an HK45 from my friend because I love HK and would like to have every caliber because I love firearms . Now 45 is my home defense handgun. I like that it’s slower and less likely to over penetrate while delivering a nasty wound cavity, it’s always a very big handgun and shoots really nice and I’m very accurate with it. I might end up using my 5.7 for home defense but haven’t trained with it enough and found the right ammo yet. But 9mm for IWB , and I keep my 5.7 in my bag. I just got a M&P 2.0 10mm that I’m extremely fond of and may be a carry option moving forward in rotation for certain situations and the winter time. I have to find the right ammo because over penetration is important to me personally. But I like the versatility of 10mm. I can have a nasty ass load or a load that performs closer to a .40 SW. so it’s still more bang than my 9mm. I love the way that gun feels in my hand. PSA will be coming out with a 5.7 rock compact and I’ll definitely be getting it when it’s released. I love how 5.7 works. The capacity and how fast and explosive it is but dumps all that energy and does jumping jacks and limits over penetration.
I loved your .40s&w videos, and think .40 is the greatest handgun round ever created. However, while I carry a Glock 23 Gen5, I think the Glock 30 is the most accurate Glock pistol because it tends to torque less in the hand. It has the perfect power:capacity ratio, particularly for restricted states. The G23 is noticeably more punishing to shoot than the G30. I think the learning curve is far less steep for 230gr .45 than 180gr .40.
Thank you for viewing and your comments! Always appreciate the vast level of experience in this business and the insight and would agree with the remarkable accuracy of Glock's sub compact guns. I cannot speak however to specific models compared to another but have a Glock 29 and that rascal SHOOTS! Thanks again and be safe.
@@AmmoMart Word on the street is, a Lone Wolf .40 conversion barrel in the G29 will not only feed reliably with stock mags, but also feel like shooting a 9mm and allow for cloverleaf groups. Glock would do themselves a huge service by selling OEM conversion kits, though it'll probably never happen for fear of liability.
People today focus and tout so much on superiority of one cartridge vs another cartridge. Hogwash! Owning and shooting handguns in just about every caliber/cartridge configuration over the last 40 years has reinforced one thing to me. The size, type, controls and accuracy of a handgun are the most important aspects regarding a defensive handgun than the chambering. I would much rather face down an unskilled opponent using a tricked out high capacity 10mm than a highly skilled opponent with a 22LR revolver.
A .22 LR round will kill with a head shot or torso shot!!! It has a lot to do with shot placement. My personal opinion is I own a 9mm pistol 3-.45 pistols & a .357 magnum revolver!! I feel very comfortable carrying any of them for my personal protection!!
I'm 71 years old and have a Kimber pro carry ll and a S&W 4566TSW both in 46 and a Kimber micro 9 in 9mm. I carry daily and I have carried all 3. My favorite EDC is my Kimber 45 by far.
I'm a big guy, and have no problem concealing an H&K USP .45 Tactical. 12+1 capacity, accurate and ultra reliable. With the buffer spring, it has less felt recoil than some 9mm's I've fired.
Just my opinion but the one place a full size .45 really shines is the use for a nightstand/home defense tool. It being quieter than a 9mm or .40 makes a difference. Adding a suppressor on it in a home with long hallways is also nice. You might not get the same capacity as a 9mm but a double stack 13+1 is plenty at those distances imho. It will have light recoil as well and it's further mitigated if you're into adding lights on your gun. I'm thinking of a 5" full size Springfield XD. I love those guns actually.
Provided the bullet opens up, a .45acp will open up to about .75 caliber on impact. Physics and math says something big is more likely to tear up a vital organ than something little, per any given impact location. .45 doesn't need to be going crazy fast. It's 106 grains heavier than the ultra-common 9mm, It's still going to penetrate. A paint bucket will penetrate if filled with concrete and flung 80% the speed of sound.
That's why my carry Ammo is Underwood extreme penetrator 200gr in my Ccw.that is a Springfield Mil-spc with all Wilson combat mags 8rd in the gun and two 10rd for back up.
HK45 Compact, my favorite carry 45.
I hope Glock paid you well for that commercial. A bit long, but they'd be proud. I do find it odd that you don't mention a few key points, though:
The number one thing a Glock guy buys after buying a Glock is new sights
The laser grip issue is universal for all grip lasers unless the laser is placed under the barrel as opposed to mounted on the grip.
Much can be done to reduce recoil regardless of caliber (weaker loads, different grain weights, hybra-porting, etc.).
Follow-up shots have a lot to do with the firearm itself (SA vs. DA and so forth) and not just caliber.
I mean, anecdotal is all fine and good . Personally, I lived in Alaska, and a former buddy is an officer there now (Fairbanks), and he carries an FN 45. Strange huh?
my first issued pistol in the Army was a 1911A1. I loved it and bought one as soon as I was old enough. I carried a 1911 full size on and off duty as a cop for many years. I carry a 9mm now. but I've fired so many round through 1911s, that's what I shoot the best. As far as HP bullet weight, test the rounds before carring them. I have some .45s that don't like 185 grain anything.
I carry the XDS in 45 acp. I am very accurate and shoot that gun well. It conceals well and is reliable in my years of shooting. Nothing wrong with the 45. 9 is good, 40 is good and 45 is good. Carry whatever you shoot well. To me the gun and how well you can shoot it is far more important than caliber.
I carry the same. I just picked up the XDS in 45 acp I love it
But what you missed about Wilson and hackathorn conversation about carrying a 9 mm 1911 was, that they had shot 45 ACP for so many years that their hands were sore from shooting that many cartridges. And shooting the 9mmm was more comfortable for them. They never said that the 9-millimeter was a better cartridge. Which, it's not
Every gun nut has their favorite round and the gun they know they shoot best. The .45 ACP is an accurate caliber and with the right firearm the recoil is quite manageable. The Glock 30 frame soaks up the recoil and is very accurate if you do your part. The right holster is key for comfortable CC.
Excellent video sir! I happen to be a huge .45 fan, but I enjoy the education I get from videos like this. I mainly carry a Glock 19x (9mm). I used to own a Springfield XDM in .45 and I tell you that when I shot 230g hollow points in it, I swore I was shooting my .44 mag. Actually too much recoil for CCW for me. With today's hot 9mm loads and if your gun will fire high pressure ammo, a 9mm is the way to go. It's all about shot placement and what is comfortable for you.
I could tell you weren't a fan of the .45 ACP the moment you started talking dude so I wasn't surprised when you mentioned it. Just your vibe. 😎
I am disabled missing my right leg and I carry a full size 1911, I'm 5'8 and 155 lbs, I forget I have her on most of the time
Love my xd compact. 4 inch barrel, 45 acp. Shoot both gold dot and golden Saber in 230 gr. Jhp. Great combo of pistol and ammo
Historically, the John Wick franchise has done more for the 9mm than any old opinion or better bullet options. Everyone likes the bullet hose, high round capacity wonder pistols and may have bought into the idea that somehow bullets seek out their targets. It’s not reality, only fantasy. However, practice is reality. If you live long enough, you will see this fragile thought almost everywhere that individuals have self doubt. If you can hold back your immediate fear and replace it with assured expectation based on reality and capability, recoil worries disappear like soap bubbles in a breeze. “A prepared mind” and all that it entails, along with muscle memory will do just fine. If you spend more money on ammo and practice than on the next “best” 9mm, you’re headed in the right direction. A tool is a tool, learn how to use it. If you just want to look cool, there’s an app for that.
I carried a .45 for years but, I switched to a .40 because of weight. Ya the 27 is snappy but hang onto the thing and it’s just fine. I will have my 74th birthday soon, maybe I will try the Glock.45, Mass said it was one of his best shooters. 🤷♂️ 🤗
Raised with a .45 ACP. I carry the weapon. I guess if you carry it most of your life, it's a natural. Don't care for the field stripping v. other calibers and makes, but again, it's an acquired taste.
I highly encourage people to not "switch" to another caliber when they demonstrate proficiency and have years of experience and knowledge with one caliber or platform. Shot placement wins fights and the 45 .acp is an effective round, just not superior in my mind. Thanks for viewing and we hope you continue sharing your knowledge and experience. My hope for the channel is discussion with our judgement. Be safe and see you soon.
Interesting. The best shots I have known in my life have demonstrated that prowess across a wide range of calibers. I’m pretty sure training and carrying in three different calibers has made me more likely to hit center mass should the need arise.
Springfield XD Mod 2 in .45. My EDC for over three years now. Never once had a malfunction with hundreds of rounds fired. Eats everything.
Wouldn't carry anything smaller. 9mm are BB's and they don't stop anyone unless you get a lucky spine or head shot.
The 9mm isn't a terrible round but it has the worst fucking fans ever. 9mm fanboys have a VERY inflated idea of how the 9mm performs in short barrels, but in a full size service pistol with a 5"barrel and with +p gold dots, it does a fine job. I still prefer 10mm, 357mag, 45acp, and 44mag... because shooting twice is just silly 😁
@@ajm2872 ----To me it's a matter of size man. If I have a pebble and a rock and need to throw one at someone I'm not picking up the pebble. I want it to hurt and hurt badly.
my brother in law was shot 11 times with 9mm hollow points. He survived and was out of the hospital 8 days later.
My little Asian wife can shoot a few hundreds rounds through our 45 and loves it. Granted it’s a full size but still a grown man will have much bigger and stronger hands. The 9mm is fine my preference is the 45, and it’s not a small percentage of us that feel this way.
A friend of mine was concealed carrying a 45 while on hike in Idaho, the bear that attacked him wasn’t a fan of .45 either
I wish I had NEVER gotten rid of my Springfield XDS in 45 acp.
It shot just as easy and accurate as my 1911 Commander.
If I ever get back into a decent financial condition I'll get another one.
I like my Shield, (it's 9mm), but, even in 9mm, the XDS has less recoil/snap.
I'm thinking about getting the xds
I trust my 1911 with my life . I lived and worked in Kuwait , Iraq, Afghanistan and a few other places that will remain nameless . I have seen the 9 millimeter fail, more than once. I don’t trust torso shots with anything less than 5.56 mm. My target is the central nervous system only .
I carried a full size, hi-cap 45 acp for quite awhile, 1911 style, wish I kept that gun
1911 is a superior handgun?
Home defense and range tool ,but not a great conceal carry?
Excellent duty weapon?
Definitely a shooters tool.
I'm a terrible marksman with just about every handgun I own but my 1911 in 45 ACP always makes me look like I know what I'm doing. It is also the easiest to shoot one handed. Feels like it was designed with one handed use in mind.
Funny you say that. Back in the day soldiers were trained and require to learn to shoot the 1911 one handed. I often practice with my R1 one handed and it's just as accurate with one.or 2 hands...
I carry and shoot the 45 shield no problem with recoil. Yes it has recoil I agree but my main reason for carrying it for self defense is the fact it is slow less penetration but effective penetration using hollow points it leaves a devastating wound channel and hopefully will not over penetrate and hit someone. I been looking at a new bullet call interpreter I believe that expands really good only penetrates ballistic gel like 8 or 9 inch's massive wound channel
I own a Ruger SR 1911 .45 & a Springfield Armory A1 Mil Spec.45 & both are excellent 1911 pistols!!!
Agreed, I own .380, 9mm, ruger sr1911 and .357 and my 1911 is extremely accurate and very comfortable to conceal and shoot. I run Hornady critical defense through it and it shoots very well.
@@bryanbarner5665 I hear the Hornady Personal Defense does very well through the 1911 pistols
Being a 45acp guy 1911 is my go too.. but 1911 aint for every one edc full or 4.25 are highly accurate. best carry i ever had zero issue.
Love my smith and Wesson 457. Great carry gun in 45 acp. And I prefer 45 acp to 9mm. More knock down power.
Glock 30S is a great edc and when I get home put a 13 round mag in for home defense
I think I see where you are coming from or at least the message you are trying to convey. However, I thought your video was a bit condecending to those who like their 45's. I like a 9mm and its a perfectly valid option, but so is 45. I can tell you from experience (Military and LEO), I have seen way more people walk away after being shot with a 9mm. Never the less, handguns in any caliber are inefective if you are not proficient with the gun you carry. Shot placement is king to any caliber you carry. So carry whatever you want and train with that weapon to proficiency.
My only time with the Gov't. Model was just out of the service circa 1973-74. I worked part-time for our small county seat PD. Had to have the Series 70 Mk. 4 ramp throated (polished) to feed the 185 JHPs. Probably not a factor in later models but could be with older GMs along the way. If I ever went back in time, would probably look for one in Super 38.
No, I don’t have to convert 1911’s other than add an ambidextrous safety, but I would do that if I were right handed. The purpose is operation with either hand while room clearing. The mag release is properly placed for left handed use.
I much prefer the 40 S&W, but I'd be quite well armed with a 45acp, especially the ParaOrdinance Warthog. I carried a P14 in 45 for years as a duty weapon. And a Colt Officers Model off duty.
Disclaimer. I learned to shoot a handgun with a 1911A1 at age 16.
What is your opinion, on a rock island armory BBR 3.145 ACP? Thank you for sharing the video.
It's all personal choice. Personally I'll continue to carry and train with my Kimber ultra carry II in 45. It's an absolute tac driver and very manageable. Practice along with confidence in the weapon and yourselfs ability to use it no matter what caliber is more important than anything.
Hell I almost forgot, the safety can be easily put on or off with yhe trigger finger of my left hand also.
Speaking about ccw..States that allow 10 round magazine max, take the "umph" out of the 9mm X 15 plus rounds is better argument. ( it flies out the window )
I never see this point mentioned by youtube pundits.. By my math, 230 grains times 10 rounds is a lot more than 115 grains times 10 ?
Same with all other available 45 ACP choices.
Good pro 9mm conceal carry argument today is that it's a lot more potent than 380 acp pistols available now in about yesterday's 380 acp size pistol ( and smaller )
You forgot Kahr! The CW45 with it's 3.5ish" barrel.
Man, your logic is flawed, please let me explain: Concealed carry is for personal protection, this means you only fire when your life is in danger. That might happen once or twice in your lifetime (hopefully never). This means you don't have to worry about the experience being fun or pleasant. What you do have to worry about is: Will the guy I'm shooting at go down after I shot him or is he gonna keep charging? Caliber does matter, the velocity of the projectile absolutely matters, and the weight of the projectile absolutely matters. Of course, shot placement matters too, but who can aim accurately under stress? Professionals mess up when they are under stress, so don't expect me to be calm and shoot all straight when someone is threatening my life. A 180-grain .45 acp is a great choice for self-defense because it's much more potent than 124-grain 9 mm and you don't need to empty a mag into a guy to stop him. For fun and practice, you might not wanna practice with a .45, but when it comes to taking people out, a .45 will beat a 9 mm every day of the week. A guy I used to know was shot twice in the chest with 9 mm hollow points 8 days ago. He walked 100 yards before he fell on the ground and died. Think about this before you tell people to choose a 9 mm for self-defense. The dude was going to die, no doubt, but he could still walk 100 yards, which means he could still shoot you and/or stab you to death. If he was shot with two .45 acp hollow points, he would drop right there. 9 mm is great for practice but sucks for self-defense...
Best concealed carry choice if the state you're living in restricts law abiding citizens to have a max 10rd magazine
I don't think the recoil on the 45 is much more than the 9mm. My glock 21 is very pleasant to shoot. It also doesn't weigh a lot. There is no doubt there is much difference in real power. Over many years I've noticed that when people are shot with 9mm their chances of living is many times better than those shot with a 45 caliber.
I agree with everything you said you're correct
I remember working in a gas station when I was a younger man, and there was a doctor that came in all of the time for gasoline. There was a TV on up in the corner, and I believe the program that was on was called "Police Story". In the program a man was shot by someone with a .45ACP. The doctor commented that the man shot with that weapon would probably never have gotten off of the operating table. It was that lethal in his professional experience as he'd had plenty of experience as a trauma surgeon.
Maybe if you are an inexperienced shooter the .45 isn't your best option, but, I own the Shield .45, and it is very pleasant to shoot, and also very accurate. I own Glocks, and love them. The Shields are as good or better than my Glocks, and this .45 is an awesome concealed carry gun.
ABSOLUTELY AGREE!!!
CARRY MY SHIELD 45acp with extended mag ALL DAY EVERYDAY!!!
I'm a .45 guy, I admit it, and something of a fudd, I guess. My grandfather carried a 1911 in 1944-45 (typist in an hq), though he said he only ever fired it in anger once.
I absolutely LOVE my SHIELD 45acp. I carry it all day, EVERDAY. Carry with the 7+1 MAG and a spare. 230gr HST for my ammo!!! Also have a SHIELD PLUS 9mm!!!
My full size Gov’t model carries fantastic because it’s thin and using a Milt Sparks belt and 55BN you don’t feel the weight. My new Walther PPQ in 45 is also proving to shoot and carry very well. The carry caliber thing will always be a debate amongst many. I still trust the 45 more than other calibers for carry. Also, the thing he says here in this video about modern polymer guns and too much recoil? Not true. Shoot a G30. Very fast follow up shots.
45 acp Almost as powerful as a 10 mm but with less kick. I was hearing some war vets say. 1 had a 9 mm and 1 had a 45 acp. During war the 9 mm guy had to shoot three rounds to kill to every 1 45 round.on average. 10 mm and 40 cal can kick 🦵 really hard. 40 cal is meant to be full size I understood. And 10 mm has even more power.
Carry what works best for you. If a 454 casull works for you then carry it. A 45acp 1911 is a good carry. Don't let others tell you what's best for you to carry, unless you're a newbie.
3:06 for those who are left-handed shooters learn to be right handed you can do it. I hate it paying $10 extra for holsters to be left-handed so I put about 2 1/2 boxes and got my hand pretty much good enough to shoot, right handed cops do it all the time because they issued right handed holsters.
With the 45acp and 380 acp one really needs to do a lot of testing with different types of ammunition. These calibers are low pressure and slow so hollow point ammunition seems to struggle to expand properly depending on the gun. These calibers were designed back 1903 to 1908 so they were based on 45 colt or black powder revolvers they were designed to replace. At that time to the best of my knowledge hollow point bullets didn't exist so fmj or solid lead was the ammunition of that time
That's right 1911 Commander size Bobcut for CCW filled with Underwood extreme penetrator 200gr bullet.al Wilson combat mags 8rd in the gun and two 10rd for back up
The question as to which round is better to carry is an easy one to answer. Say you are in a gun fight, would you prefer to get hit by your adversary's .45 or 9mm? Any questions?
People!
Check the law where you carry!
Just brandishing a firearm is assault and battery in some places even if it stopped you from being STABBED TO DEATH ☠️! Keep your actions within the limits of the law! 😮😮😮😮
I like this video. You present a lot of information in a straight forward manner. At around the 5:20 mark you make the statement concerning the three .45's you just described "these guns are designed to carry a lot and shot a little". What exactly do you mean "shot a little"? I found that an odd statement.
Its perfect for me I carry a Taurus PT 145 and a Block 30!!!! I am 56 years old too
Blah Blah Blah! Whatever Dude! 🤦♂️ I love my 45s.
I have a Springfield 1911 which I absolutely love and I am very accurate with. I have loved the 1911 since I was a kid. However, my carry is a Glock 30 GEN 4. I absolutely love that gun. I am extremely accurate with it. I also just purchased the Glock 21 full-size 45 ACP. Again, a very accurate gun to shoot. I put on Ameriglo sites on both my Glocks!
I have been a 1911 guy for most of my life as well. These days I carry a Sig P-320 Compact in .45 ACP.
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I also have a CZ 97B .45 which is an amazing pistol.
Great Video. Honest review on the 45 caliber. Thank you.
I like my Colt Defender 45 with a 3 inch barrel and 165 grain bullet.
45 in a polymer frame ain't as bad as a 40 SW. 45 acp is a low pressure round, only 19,000-23,000 chamber pressure, compared to a 40 sw, 40,000 psi. It pushes a big old chunk of lead around 900-1200 fps. A good stopper
Not a big 45acp fan, But I do love to take out my GI 1911 and shoot it. Keep the videos coming
What!!!!!u Tripping. That's my CCW Springfield Mil-spc with all Wilson combat mags 8rd in the gun and two 10rd filled with Underwood extreme penetrator 200gr bullet
No man most people don't feel that 185g 9mm is the best stopping round -- FBI doesn't feel that way either. They use .40 which has slightly more hitting power than a 9mm and .45 crushes them both -- thats the truth. What you get with a 9mm is additional rounds so IF.. and thats a BIG if, knowing that most gun fights or defensive stands are within 15ft, if you are faced with "overwhelming ods" you can counter with "overwhelming firepower" -- and that is one way to look at it. The other is you don't need 7 shots to put something down. One will do it. 9mm is going to be lighter and more concealable. A comment you frequently hear of those that have shot a .45 for the first time is "that doesn't feel any different than a 9mm" and I am one of those that agrees with that statement. Try this .. the Taylor Knockout Formula = Velocity (FPS) x weight (of bullet) x the diameter of the bullet divided by 7000 (puts the answer in pounds) and you get your true stopping power. Example: Classic Match | 9mm | 147GR FMJ avg 900 feet per second -- 147 x 900 x .355 (diameter of 9mm bullet) = 46, 966.5 / 7000 = 6.7095 Knockdown power. Example 2: Federal American Eagle 45 ACP 230 Grain FMJ | 890 FPS = 230 x 890 x .452 / 7000 = 13.22 Knockdown power. Clearly far more stopping power. That choice between stopping power and overwhelming firepower will end up being a personal choice.
so...my Glock 30SF Gen 3 with a 13 round magazine works just fine. (Grip sleeve over magazine is amazing)