The WORST parts of healing in World of warcraft
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- Опубликовано: 20 июл 2021
- Hi people,
a little (medium sized) video about some of the worst parts to healing in world of warcraft. Although often fun and and more active than just following the same rotation over and over again, there are also some definite downsides to it. Enjoy :)
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I played with a druid healer yesterday that talked about a mage that refused to stop taking agro and made them wipe. The druid said that after the wipe, the mage was lower on his healing prioritylist then the hunter's pet, something I found amusing. :D
I agree with him, I just don’t like mage groups that much, I grew to be so bitter against all this min max
Hahaha as a priest my self yea we have our favorites
wait, we're supposed to heal hunter's pets? My UI doesn't even show hunters pets normally (only in rare circumstances will I change this option). Sorry hunters, your pet is your responsibility.
Lmfao savage af I play both druid heals and my main is a hunter best stit I've read 🤣
@@jimmym3352 As a hunter main, yeah, tossing a quick heal toward the pet occasionally can help a ton. Especially in TBC, pets make up a large portion of hunter DPS. I am quick to pull my pet back out of bad mechanics and always throw on Mend Pet when needed but sometimes that isn't enough to keep him alive. This is especially true through raid/party wide damage and debuffs. A quick heal/dispel from a healer is going to help the overall group. If everyone is topped off and you're just chillin', healing the pet helps the overall DPS of the group.
If in a 5 man and I send my pet to save you from a mob hitting you in the face, that's even more reason to help keep him alive. If he dies because you didn't try to save him after he saved you, he won't save you again.
I main healers always. Partly because i enjoy the supportive angle anf how quick i queue, partly because i love letting idiots die when they are arrogant or being rude
100% agree
As a long term healer, I have to wonder if we all enjoy the struggles in a masochistic way
absolutely. :D :D
I agree.
Mained a healer for years, I may have let a few annoying people eat dirt once in a while 🤣
I feel like I must be very lucky. I only remembering doing this deliberately once and I still remember the guy. It was an elemental shaman who started pulling at the beginning of Utgarde Pinnacle in Wrath. If I tried to heal him, I got aggro and died. He learned very quickly to let the tank pull, and was great the rest of the run.
The amount of warlocks I have seen hellfire themselves to death and then blame the healervis staggering. I feel for you healers
They better understand when to use it and then im completely fine with them going greedy but doing big dps.
Haven't seen that in TBC. But the sheer number of warlocks is the thing in TBC. In normal dungeons I don't mind healing their life taps. But heroics require all my focus to be on the tank because tank damage can be very spikey and it only takes 1.5 seconds for them to lose 80% of their health. I have to precast for many trash packs. Anyways, every now and then I'll have time to top off warlocks, but not often. Generally on trash pulls the tank requires my full attention.
I play both classes; tanking and healing. I'm always watching healers mana before next pull. Tanks need to play as healer a few times, to truly understand not to blame\bitch at healers.
True that.
you can always tell as a healer the tanks that are specc'd and geared well and the tanks that aren't. some may show up with low health (which is always worrying), but take hits like a champ, and other tanks show up with tons of health, but are squishy AF. i HATE squishy, mediocre tanks that pull like they're elite. they go from one pack to the next pack, with no idea that the healer is having to work extra hard. they get too far ahead and go splat and it's always, "where's the heals brah?"
And vice versa. After warrior-tanking, I started to appreciate, as a healer, that if I didn't really have to top off my mana, I really didn't want my tank to lose rage.
thanks mate
dps only folks that don’t run threat plates (many pugs!) will absolute miss the comment about the bar turning yellow…
it was a really hard process for me as a main tank when healing on alts to let people die.
as a wise man once said " the way u are playing its cheaper to cast a Res than a heal "
im not letting people die but there are numerous abilites like Feign Death, Ice Block, Vanish, Fade or Dmg Stop entirely and if u dont do these things maybe u just gotta die.
seeing the learning process is quite a sight :D
I feel these sentiments wholeheartedly. Used to be in a guild that would announce "we're doing an AQ fun run". MY response was always "fun for who?" certainly not me who has to heal all you idiots 'having fun'"
That's when you join on your dps alt instead ;)
>aq40
>fun at all
that part when you said the dps pulls threat and then just keeps doing damage instead of stopping to let the tank get aggro put me in the tank version of a thousand yard stare
100% spot on. But I'm ngl, being a life saver and covering up mistakes get you the most love.
Sometimes in battlegrounds a player messages the group to kick my healer because "I didn't heal them". They have no clue that I often get chain stunned.
Ive been doing mana tombs on my alt lately and the healers have been hit or miss. Often the worst healers are druids who think that they can just put a hot on you with multiple packs and then dps.
Most players are not good at this game, and healers are no different. Once you get used to good healers, its very easy to know if you are just squishy, or the healer is just bad.
Tanks that keep pulling when he has 10% hp and healer has 5% mana are so common and annoying.
You can blame all the people who say "go go go" when there is any pause in the action.
If healer runs oit of mana then I run out of health. Dead tanks dont keep threat. Its quicker to wait for drinking than wait for rezs.
I will literally drink and watch the tank die if they do this
lol ive never seen a tank do that ever.
@@Nalvash aye same, and casually say "don't you check the state of your group before pulling?". If he argues against that, then he shows how bad he is. Sadly these tards tend to leave after getting called out
So nothings changed since I stopped playing 13 years ago.
Its just much more toxic now.
thats the point of classic, isn't it? No changes as you asked
I think another aspect dps not assisting in prevention of damage. CC mobs that don't need to be killed and or interrupting a healing cast from a mob.
That's why when I pull big on my paladin tank, I tell everyone to wait for me to stack them. Makes the healers job easier if I'm the only one taking damage.
I’ve been a healer since vanilla. Never played a different role, and you my friend, are the people that make my life so much easier. Keep being you please 😂
reminds me of a friendly pala tank in a heroic dungeon few days ago. The Offwarrior always aggroed one mob and told me (Paladin healer, SINGLETARGET HEALER!) "lol, just heal both" :D
Exactly. Unless it's too big. It's awfully annoying when there's a melee dps who needs as much healing as the tank for a run, and SO nice to mostly just have to heal the tank when mechanics allow. And a tank who takes the time to talk and guide a group and be a leader is a joy to heal.
So I went to Bota HC as heal, and we had a warri tank, which was kinda beefy, he was pleasent to heal. As for our Dps, that were two wl and a melee (can't remember the class), they were from the same guild and the tank and I were from different guilds. So the WL decided to have a race with their Dps-meter by spamming AOE attacks...... with a warrior tank. To make this even better, the melee manages to focus not the main target, so the tank loses aggro on three mobs, every trash group, and now I have to heal four people instead of one, causing us to nearly wipe every trash group. Halfwaythrough I had enough and said something along the lines: "Stop with AOE dmg and do singletarget dmg or I'll leave." Which they then did, and we were faster than before. So if you have ever trouble with a group, sometimes it helps to threaten them with you leaving, because as heal you're not easily replaced
In classic, one of our guild leaders announced that at the end of the expansion we'd go back to MC for a parse run. Not sure why he thought any of us healers would bother to come and stand around doing nothing. Don't worry, us healers unionized and staged a coup.
I respecced my shammy from heals to elemental because it was so tilting to heal those tanks who just couldn't wait for me to get mana back. Now it's someone else's problem
healing is very interactive, that's why it's so much fun. Plus, as a healer, it's much easier to get in groups.
yeah I love healing too, keeps you on the edge of the seat at all times. when you have a good tank it is absolutely amazing.
As DPS, unless you're aiming for being really good you can usually shut off your brain for the night and it will still be mostly fine.
I did heal a group (lvl 70 TBC Classic) where the DPS was so bad that every pack took so long that I'd go OOM each time and that was a fucking pain lol
Yes and its very tiring compared to relaxing as dps…atleast for me coming from healer main.
I am a healer, and i am never shy. You need to be more free to tell people to fuck off and not stand in the fire. but also own your mistakes
I totally hear you. I would agree that healing is one of the most engaging roles. I can already hear the dps saying...."but muh parses?!"
Dude I love this video. I was a tank/dps in vanilla classic and started ele shaman in TBC. I had to switch to resto just to get into dungeons and raids in TBC and I finally understand the frustration.
I was laughing so hard. That video was awesome. Keep up the amazing work.
For me, the worst part of healing was having to deal with other healers.
Whenever healing problems arose it felt like every guilds solution was "let's bring more healers" instead of "let's bring better healers," and it made raids really fucking boring having to 10 heal BWL.
In p5 I quit the game because I was so frustrated by how many awful healers were getting carried in really good guilds. I looked at the logs of every priest in the top 20 guilds on my server, and only found 5 Priests that weren't either wearing gear worse than pre raid bis, or using spells that should pretty much never be used.
In TBC I rolled ENH shaman and the nice thing about playing dps is if you're a shit dps there's a number that says so and you get cut, so I don't have to deal with other players in my role being turbo shit and no one noticing.
You have great insights man
you are fully right people dont understand how hard healing is they keep pulling
Yep, tank charging in when you're OOM has to be the worst.
I quit several years ago, but as a healer to get my "revenge" in dungeons I would 1) never heal pets 2) never heal life tapping locks who refused to eat 3) Never heal dps that stood in fire 4) wouldnt dispell CC off of dps that didnt have the awareness to do the same to me dps pallys or priests ie sleeps, sheeps, etc. Healing itself was pretty EZ, but it took the most patience out of all the classes...not sure if things have changed a lot since then
In dungeons nowadays, if I'm not healing life tapping locks, then my mana would always be around 100% and that's just boring lol
"I'm not sore. You're sore! Which is a problem for me anyway as the healer."
Amen! I have to do 2k hps in heroics. People seem to think pre raid bis is all you need to do heroics or even less gear than that. DPS don’t understand why they can’t find tanks because they can do heroics with all greens and zero skill when tanks need tons of gear or a very geared healer.
I've been tanking heroics and it's definitely asking the least effort from dps. Heals and tank have to put in effort just to live
I am a Warrior Tank and have been since Vanilla level 10. :D I repect healers a lot. They're the ones keeping the Tanking going and even fixing mistakes others make. I always wait for Healers mana to be full, but then I'm like, maybe the group thinks I'm slow and I take too much damage. I'm always doubting myself when tanking. But yes, thank you all healers.
As a tank my greatest frustration with healers is random afks. I see they are full mana and I'm set to pull. Yet no healing happens. I find myself having to carry healers through heroics more often than not
The very last time i played as healer, one of the dps told me exactly what you were talking about in this video "i'm more important than you, you're just here to heal us" juste after i answered that if so, i won't heal anymore and just help to the dps, every single member of the party (who didn't even said a mere word before that) said him to shut up, even the raid leader threat him of kick... The raid goes really good after that, and th healer's group was the one who gave the rythm.
Just a couple of days ago we did a 14 key with 4 DPS and 1 Tank. You wouldn't believe how much more attention you're paying as DPS, having the knowledge at the back of your mind that there is no healer to make up for your shenanigans.
Another annoying type of tank, is the "I'll pull 2 extra packs to make this go quicker"-tank. Loosing the small advantage in speed the group could have made with longer recovery time between pulls and if even just one wipe it is way way slower than just doing things methodically.
As a tank, my priorities are, keep the healer alive, have an eye on the healers mana, have Great gear/DEF cap/remove debuffs/move from AOE/spin away bosses, so that the healer have an easier time, and hold what i pull.
if a DPS does a trashpull while the healer in Drinking, i will not Taunt them off, that is, if healer doesnt start panic heal them.
DPS will use all their Cooldowns, pots and whatnot. after that fight, they have hopefully learned that if they tank ain´t moving, the healer is OOM.
if its the healer pulling, its a sign that they want to pick up the pace a notch
1) dont dps till they are on a concecrate
2) if you find me hard to heal let me know (cc more / consume / change gear / extra tricks)
3) you pull it, you tank it
4) if your not the tank and you pull it then its more mana eficient to rez you than to heal you
I like your points mostly 3 and 4 as a Hunter if I die 90% of the time it was avoidable and I’m fine with dying if it benefits the group as a whole
I love wow, but I'm not so sure any more after certain experiences. LOL I agree with your general sentiment around healing, for the whole game.
i loved this a little too much
Bruh, I resto shaman main and my biggest annoyance is people not healing themselves between pulls. It's my job to keep you alive during fights, not to keep you at 100% all the time. Level first aid and bandage yourself. There's no shortage of Netherweave Cloth.
or over life tapping locks every pull, now that im geared i just throw a renew on them back before raid bis and drink every pull it was so annoying
Clothies almost never have enough NW Cloth. 18 for one bolt of imbued neatherweave.
Live by the pump, die by the pump.
This is why i loved the addon Fatality when healing...
I died because i didnt get healed.
Stfu the entire raid can read the chat massage that you died to the most easily aviodable spell the boss has.
Edit: typo
This is a masterpiece.
I haven't encountered most of these problems, at least not much. Voice chat seems to get through to tanks that healers are drinking, and basically all tanks wait for full mana on a boss fight. Letting dps who pull die works well, but I've only had to do that once in 15 years. Letting dps who accidentally get aggro die, it's not deliberate but it's often too instant to prevent. What I most relate to in the video is the pre-casting that's built into the game for my holy priest in TBC classic - vert definitely annoying yet necessary. Not a problem for my resto druid in retail, but then I mostly do M+ in retail and everyone seems to blame everyone else for every death or wipe there. Uninstalling solved the problem. I've always liked the challenge of healing when things go wrong. It's a sort of fun you don't usually get to enjoy so much as dps, though I've seen many a good dps prevent a wipe as the lone survivor of a boss fight over the years.
As long as people don’t start nerdraging, you can discuss things with your raid team and reach an understanding.
In a PUG setting, if things really get out of hand, I just “suck it up and finish the instance” … and then add the offenders to my /ignore list :)
Ignore them mid raid.
Be different.
Stand out
I have had to call out in discord for a heal before as a DPS. In this particular instances on Sapphiron it was around halfway through the fight. A air phase started and I did not receive a single heal from the beginning to the end of that phase. I think that is about 15 seconds. I was using Frost pots, using shadow pots, avoiding blizzards, not getting tail swiped, and spreading properly during air phase the whole fight so I wasnt taking unnecessary damage. For our raid we had 1 to 2 healers designated to heal a group of 3 to 4 dps. My group had 2 healers, a Priest and a Druid both full T3. So, as I am dying for those 15 seconds with no abilities to heal myself as my frost pot was on CD, no HS, and bandages would be instantly interrupted I had to call out. I did get in trouble, but I would later find out my 2 healers were actually not doing their jobs correctly. The priest would regularly get in melee range of the boss so they could heal the other side of the room to boost their parses and the druid would regularly doing nothing with plenty of mana or had died from standing in a very avoidable blizzard. So I feel that in that specific instance calling out for heal was in retrospect justified.
Can relate and I’m a healer :( as the lead healer in a raid trying to get the other healers to stay healing their group was so hard. Especially when you have that zoo animal priest that just wants “good parses”. It gets even worse when you have players like that Druid who hang around with a thumb up their ass expecting loot every raid. Healing is stressful.
There's nothing wrong with healing multiple groups, saph is a numbers game you do genuinely want as much HPS as possible out of each and every healer rather than have them sit on their hands. WRT to air phase, it's likely that you LOS your healers and they need to move, so it's not surprising that you don't receive heals.
Saph is really the worst possible boss to call out for heals for. From a healers perspective, the entire raids health bar is in the red, you're clicking bars every gcd, have been for the past 3 minutes and will do for the next 3 minutes - it takes up so much of your mental space that healers are the most likely to get caught out by blizzard. Whenever someone said that, I would just think "yeah you and 39 other people need healing"
That's why I enjoy being a healer: you hold *all* the power.
BTW, my main pet peeve is boomies innervating themselves whilst you are going oom trying to heal their over-aggro.
Funny thing is as a pala tank my pet peeve is boomies inervating me not the healer.
that's ok, sure they have mana to top up themselves.
I've been playing TBC pretty heavily and only seen 2 boomkins the entire time. I'm on a super populated server too. Every other druid spec is very well represented, but not boomies
@@kogdanetdeneg I'm on a medium-sized realm and I see them all the time...
As a healer main I 100% agree with everything in this video.
In original wow (bc through Draenor) I mained a tank and a healer. The two most thankless roles, although tanks atleast werent as downtrodden.
Honestly I played healer for about half of my time in TBC, as in real TBC. I was bad. I also hated it more the better I got. As I learned to balance mana better and use which heals where, I became more aware of how stressful it was when every single wipe was, in the end, partially my fault. With the exception of ridiculous pulls, if people took damage, it was me who was at fault for not balancing my abilities better. It honestly made me quit healing. I've had bad interactions as well but honestly it was just the feeling of knowing I was not up to snuff in some way, not playing perfect, mixed with ALOT of toxicity I received when I was truly bad.
So I moved on and eventually became a mage main, and eventually a tank main once I realized exactly how much a perfect tank could make a healer's life easy. Ironically perfect was a goal I strove for, but when I learned it could never be truly achieved, I quit that too and just mained rogue because screw my group, if I do big dps and play perfect, even if things go wrong I can just vanish.
My point is player toxicity made me incredibly stressed. Stress made healing harder the better I got. If you wonder why there are 'no good healers' you could just become the change they want to see and be nice to the baddies, and instead of verbally abusing them for 40 minutes in guild chat or whispers, tell them it's alright and help them. It takes a kind soul to be a healer and utilize the most annoying gameplay loop in the history of MMO's. Show them a little bit of respect.
You sound toxic, trash and entitled. What a horrible combination.
HARD disagree on the point of players asking in coms for heals. Like maybe if ur in shit guilds that would get old but a lot of the time people know there going to take incoming damage before the healer does and thus help the healer get heals cast before they would normally have and saved the player from dying. I guess it gets annoying or whatever but common now.
it is a big diffrence if you beat a boss because or despite of a specific behavior.
to sump up my experience of healer so far ... If we win, it's because of everyone. If we loose, it's the healer's fault
XD hehe detta var ein bra video, e er healer main i TBC. For me, så er det å pugge HC dungeons ofte veldig besværlig. Eller det var især tøft i starten tå expansionen. E hadde ikkji nok MP5, og tanks & dmg dealers tok masse dmg, då er det veldig iriterandis når følk ikkji ser på manaen, og fortsett å pulle.
This is why in raids you should have a Druid healer because they front load heals and can really act as a buffer for other healers, a Shaman can also help with this. Anyone not watching their healers to make sure they have mana and anyone not doing this doesn’t not deserve to call themselves a Tank. Taking into consideration that tanks only have two jobs, lead the group and hold aggression and pop survivability CDs. Well third, mark mobs and direct CC. If you’re dual wielding then don’t call yourself a tank, and if someone tells you another healer could do X, then tell them to go find that healer because that isn’t going to happen with your current gear.
Woot...I love my healers!
I first started healing back in Wrath. Eventually reaching the status as top healer for the guild I was in. Many times I would login and immediately have 3 or 4 whispers wanting me to come heal in other guilds raids once people found out that I was an extremely competent healer. I also took great pride in always being top healer, who knew that blizzard made the holy spec priest just for me, LoL.
As far as heroics dungeons went I would always tell the tanks to not stop for nothing. Nothing in wow was better than being a healer!
Where I agree with you about this type of finger-pointing in pugs, I haven't really had this experience within my guild D: I feel really bad for healers in general due to the blamegame, but in general (at least in TBC) tanks dying is due to crushcap (in a paladins case) and crit cap not being respected on some bosses, in TBC there is little to no point healing DPS that pull aggro as 95% of the time it will just 1 shot them. I never played retail so I never know if this gets better in the future -- that is -- the healerbashing.
Yeah, the "heal me ffs" shouts in disc are so damn stupid. I tell them once that I will heal them but there are people over them in the list of priorities that need it first. One more time and I'll intentionally do not heal them.
Farming as a healer also sucks.... near impossible due to lack of damage. Its not efficient.
Unless you're a Paladin
I started playing healer in original TBC all the way to BFA. The whole active mana regeneration and manapool size that got removed from game kinda ruined it for me.
Atleast olden times i could enjoy end game content as a god, never needing to drink or worry about my mana at all. Blizz sure knows how to remove everything fun from the game.
It feels like there is no progression for healer through expansion when your manapool and mana regeneration will always be a fixed value.
If Im not meant to pull threat and take a hit, why do I have lightning shield and mail?
Those are remnants from Vanilla when Blizzard thought about making Shaman Tanks. They had talents for defense, parry, threat, etc. It was all removed during vanilla and later expansions.
Here is a good summary: "Blizzard specifically removed the increased threat that Rockbiter used to cause (and intentionally made it useless past level 30). They then baked lowering your threat generation into the talent that used to be Parry and is now Spirit Weapons.
They removed Shield Specialization, changed Anticipation from +defense skill to +dodge% then later lowered the dodge from 5% to 3%.
During an overhaul of Vanilla items they also replaced all of the Strength/Defense mail with dps stats.
The fact that over the last 2-3 years Blizzard has repeatedly and consistently removed, lowered, or replaced all of the legacy tanking talents from Beta should show anybody very clearly that shaman are not intended to fill a tank role - and more so, are not suited to doing it outside of groups specifically created to support them in doing so: a context in which basically any class can "tank"."
Oh and the thing I am quoting was written in 2009.
sometimes (As a Lock) even waiting 10 seconds isn't long enough lol.
12:00 oh boy could not agree more great opinion piece that is way more truth than opinion
i heal bcoz the job needs to be done and someone has to do it, also i don't care if you die unless you are tank or another healer. secret of healing is that most of times there is nothing going on so its just chill and wait for the bang
I didn't want to heal in TBC, but got roped into it because all the healers we were bringing sucked ass.
Healers are the unsung Heros!!
Mostly a jaded rant by someone who has had to pug too much with idiots. Healing is the first thing examined when someone dies, but that’s because it’s the easiest and most apparent thing to look at with how game events are recorded.
I think in general this a important lesson when playing with PuGs or less invested players. Healing can be hardest role in the game by far. Killing something faster is a reasonable goal and more fun than just simply surviving to many players.
I think what is key is playing with like minded players and knowing limits and when others are on board to test them.
I think in TBC as I remember from long ago, was that majority of classes have abilities that will help them survive.
I know it's alot to ask all your raiders to carry two sets of gear, one glass cannon an one stamina set to survive encounters.
still he makes a very valid point, if there were mechanics that instead of punishing you by taking more damage it reduced dps, people would make them as flawless as possible, being a win-win. Add an enrage timer on bosses along with that mechanic and you'll see all those 2 min boss kills turn into 5 or 6 but with everyone ACTUALLY moving and shit to avoid damage + dps reduction
As a tank. Sorry! I didnt notice the blue bar being gone. Heres an inervate and ill focus target you to pay better attention!!!
It goes all around, healers can be bad, stubborn or downright arrogant. I've had a healer tell me they wont heal a dps even if the tank is full hp. What about being a tank and the healer decides he wants to whisper his buddy as you get blasted? In a raid or dungeon group everyone needs to perform well for a smooth experience.
Yeah Thats mostly Cause of healers if they are men,are very feminin guys who Look more as Their Mother.fact!
The worst healing came from NAxx, where 10 odd fury warriors world buff'ed to the teeth who couldnt accept HoTs would complain about how often they'd pull agro n die within 2-3 seconds at random moments because of crit chains pullin agro. Or the ruder types who tried fishing for enrage proc's
if i ever see a healer with half mana i will stop and ask if they need to drink.... twice now.... ive been told just keep going noob..... i know its not all of them but honestly you cant win LOL
I appreciate you :)
Enough people lack basic game sense and are not aware of what the group/raid is doing. They barely are aware of themselves. Most stare at their bars for cooldowns and the only change of focus is towards the meters.
Speed Kills... Rushing Kills... If you're not on an actual timeclock event don't rush.
I Think you need to change a guild mate lol, healers are very respeced in all MMOs , basicly if you are healer you set your own terms , meta has changed a bit in TBC classic since everuone is playing shaman or druid for arena, so there are plenty of healers and lack of tanks, but still its higly appreciated and needed role
You're not entirely wrong, but there's a lotta healers in Classic. It was harder to find a group as a healer than a dps in 5-mans when the game first came out.
Real healers will thumbs this up!
I liked your idea of failing mechanics giving reduction in damage, Ascension WoW has that mechanic during opera fight. If you cast an ability that the audience doesn't want to see then you get -11% stats and it stacks to next person (22%). One kara, the stat reduction got to -99% cause people just kept failing it lol
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You are asking people to get banned if they download that
The reason I like healing is so the dps can pump
I've healed in MMO's for about 20 years now and WoW have been the most horrible MMO to heal in, not because of It's systems but the community... I don't know how many times I've been raged at for stuff that was out of my control, while at the same time almost never getting any recognition for carrying a group. I'm at least happy that the community these days seem to have made a choice to rage on tanks instead. Long story short, I never PuG in WoW these days since I exclusively play tank and healer for high end content... why anyone would play DPS in WoW eludes me, especially in retail with the wack-a-mole specs, It's a bit more fun in classic.
I actually really like healing in WoW, but I've always been curious about what healing is like in other MMOs. What MMO would you say is your favorite to heal in? I might give it a try.
@@tomandrews1429 Well I like Star wars the old republic healing the most. Otherwise i pretty much like healing in all games without a problematic community.
I like healing in WoW, but only without addons. Using any of the addons makes the healing way too easy, it becomes sort of brainless tbh. If it wasn't for the community I would probably enjoy it way more, since the chaos of a PuG keeps it somewhat entertaining.
Have been raiding since back in vanilla as a healer, however I would not touch a healer role in Shadowlands since I'm no longer a active raider just a tourist in the guild me and my friends created in TBC.
@@tomandrews1429 I really liked healing in The Secret World (the original version, sadly now gone). There was no mana so healing was about rotations and combos. Also leech healing was great, basically a bit like a pumped up shadow priest, where a % of your damage also healed your party.
I 100% agree.
It is very frustrating in a raid setting when people say "me" instead of saying their name in 3rd person.
As a prot pally that sometimes goes holy I never blame my healers if I'm gonna die from two hits. I have as much of a heart attack when I see my health go from 100% to 10% and back to 100% all in like 2 seconds. I tend to look at the healer's mana way more than my own and have accidentally pulled stuff when I was oom just because I'd see the healer was full of mana. I also feel like I learn the best about tanking from talking to my healers about stuff since they mitigate the mistakes everyone makes.
I also always look at the combat log to see what killed me. It's easier to see when your healer has a hot on you so you can even tell how fast you were hit. I remember one of my first heroics that I've done overpulling mobs and getting hit like 6 times all at once with hots on me and I could tell, because between the ticks all 6 hits were there. I asked the healer why he didn't heal me through that and had a good laugh, because it was obviously my own fault and I always make dang sure everyone knows it's not the healers fault.
One of my biggest gripes with TBC:C dungeons was DPS, who when they aggroed, decided to run as far away as they could to not get hit lol. At that point I feel no shame in telling them to just run towards the tank
I run into a problem where I have to play rodeo to round up dps LoSing me as a healer. So annoying.
YES, I had a hunter in Blood Furnace who would run about 300 meters away from the group after we wiped and his feign death was resisted.
If I’m not healing someone who is being an ass I’m telling them ahead of time. Don’t let them die and think you’re bad. Tell them they need you then let them see
Calling out for the healers to heal the tank, especially in PUGs, often leads to heals going onto the tank and not a DPS when a medium amount of raid damage goes out. It's not uncommon to have healers just see, 50% empty bar on half the raid, and in unison, stop healing the tank to heal others.
A random DPS calling out for a heal though, is silly.
man asmon would be like FAKE NEWS to this whole video XD
this is why i hate healing and lets not forget players who can heal or tank complain there is no healers or tanks and want others respec or complain in guild chat.
Yeah, BoP that DPS pulling agro if you can and watch 1 of 2 things happen. Either he thx's you for saving his life and buffs... or he Reeee's at you for ruining his parse on 5% life. Which is irronic because his parse was ruined the moment HE pulled agro.
As a Rshaman. I approve this video
I LIKE TURTLES
If the bossfight is half the length, or even faster, helears do not go oom.
4:00 lol when I'm tanking alot time i get healer saying pull faster don't wait for me then next run its wait i need mana every pull lol can't win
9:15 90% of rogues in tbc most don't even seem bothered that they die just wanna see how much dps they can do until there dead
13:30 tanks can do that too to the annoying dps that keeps pulling agro after awhile u forget you got a taunt button until ops sorry you died can make them play more cautious afterwards lol
Let people ignoring mechanics die even if you can heal them through it. I will let it go once or twice but if I see they are doing it on purpose I’ll tell them “either do the mechanics or I’ll let you die for now on” and then they get their crap together promise.
i heal beacuse i like having the power of deciding who lives and who dies. more of a god complex as a support player tbh
reducing dmg if u fail a mechanic is fucking genious ngl
and a side note if i require snap healing as a dps in 25man i say name and group
in 5/10 mans i dont belive its that difficult to spot who needs your immediate attention
I have an easy solution that has added a lot of fun to the game for me. I give every dps the benefit of the doubt, and I'll give them a notice if they're attacking too fast and not managing their threat. After that, if the DPS pulls aggro I will not heal them once. I'm talking to the level of petty where they will be 10% after the pull and I won't heal them before the next pull. I think if more healers did this instead of catering to ignorant DPS, they would be forced to learn threat management. I can understand being a new player and not understanding threat, but if you do understand and just refuse to be patient, you deserve to die and deserve your repair bill.
Extra bonus since I'm a resto druid, when in groups without a rez and the dps has to do a corpse run everytime they die.
You seem like a great person to do instances/raids with. Lol
Glad no dps in my guild rage at me if they get one shot. It's just gonna happen if they are doing big damage, nothing you can do about it. Just keep healing the tank and move on
As a DPS i just do raid/dungeon not even taking in consideration the healers really. I know i may be healed eventually if i take some random damage and i can stay safe for a while, but the Healer main concern is keeping the tank/tanks alive so we dont fcking wipe.
As a clothie I know that when I pull aggro I'm basically one or two hit and almost nobody can heal that
Night elf healer best healer. All of classic i would get messaged why would i got nelf priest yada yada and i would tell them every time eat/drink shadowmeld macro. Tanks and dps learned quickly in my runs when i was stealthed ur not getting heals until my resources were back to were i wanted them. If they pulled and i was stealthed i would not leave stealth till they died or the mobs died. Night elf healer best healer.
i can sum up the video why did you die because incoming damage was greater than incoming heals that's all.
There’s a lot of complexity that falls into that simple statement though
as a healer in wotlk i didnt heal people who did wrong things
you ninja pull well after we rezz ill never heal you ill deliberately avoid aoe heals in favor of single target
you better have learned first aid cuz you gonna need some bandages
and when we got to any boss wit heavy aoe i hope they would die and just wait for the rezz that i would never cast
so i wouldnt have to deal wit their problematic ass