One of my favorite fights of Marvin's. Showed that he could box going in any direction (doing a solid job of boxing on the outside, then later on the inside a very tough and game Benny Briscoe). That he wasn't a brawler or puncher who swung wildly, looking to knock the other guy out. He could outbox his opponents (if the game plan called for it) as well. Rest easy Marvin, there weren't many like yourself.
Hagler quel champion il n'aurait dû jamais accepter le combat avec Léonard ou les règles ont été changées pour faire gagner de l'argent à des organisateurs on a demandé à Hagler de descendre de poids en poids super welter de mettre des gants qui rendaient moins dur l'impact des coups le combat a été disputé en douze rounds au lieu de quinze rounds ce n'était pas un match de boxe c'était un spectacle organisé si Hagler avait disputé le combat en quinze rounds avec ses gants habituel et au poids moyen il aurait gagné
Hagler was still a bit green here, he was still boxing more as opposed to the unorthodox destroyer they we became to love. It would've been nice had we got Carlos Monzon vs Marvin Hagler.
How come Marvin hagler is less popular than mike Tyson? From tony sibson to this beast.... it is obvious who is the best middleweight of all time. Personally, he is the best boxer of all time,
Ni por casualidad,como se nota que de boxeo no sabes nada.Monzón le ganó por 13 puntos a un joven Briscoe.Hagler le ganó por unos pocos puntos a un viejo Briscoe.Y no le pudo ganar la primera pelea a Antuofermo,ex sparring de Monzón
@@oscarfernandez6687Nonsense, Hagler beat Antuofermo in ‘81. He also beat Sibson, Hearns, Minter and Hamsho twice. Ray Leonard waited till Haglers last right to controversially beat him.
The battle of huge cabeza's. Man, both Bennie and Marvin had dangerous weapons resting on their shoulders. Great fight and great post. Thanks TartanSoldier.
Benny Briscoe was tough and resilient dude in his time...he gave hagler a tough fight and I commend Benny but Hagler is another level. Styles makes fights and this was a great one just like Monzon's battle's vs Briscoe
Good fight and cool moment in boxing history. Something about Hagler made commentators and judges see a different fight than the one that actually took place. Hagler was a great tactician and boxer, and I guess they stereotyped him as a brawler.
Yeah I agree with you man. I don’t know what those commentators were watching, I had the fight completely one sided in Hagler’s favor. I had it 9 rounds to 1! The only round I gave to Bennie Briscoe was the 4th.
One of many great performances by Hagler. The night he took world title from Alan Minter in London, akaMinter’s “back yard” was an impressive event altogether. Very dramatic to watch.
Briscoe had a lot of heart. Tough boxer. However, I thought Hagler won each round. The sportscasters were in Briscoe's corner. Hagler kept landing punches while Briscoe kept missing. Good fight. Hagler all the way.
These announcers were brutal! The fight was not really close at all. Hagler outpointed him all the way and it was never in doubt. Briscoe is a hell of a fighter, but it wasn't his night. Hagler had his number this time around.
Yeah they were blowing my mind. "Gave that round to Brisco based on damage to the eye and stalking"? The damage you just said was from a headbutt and stalking while being tattooed? Ok cool story bro
Great fight. My first time seeing it. Hagler came a long way as a fighter. Here in this fight, he was more of a finesse southpaw. Moving around the entire ring all night and sticking Briscoe with combinations. Hagler became a much better in-fighter as his career went on. Binnie Briscoe is one of the most resilient fighters to ever do it. He was never phased by Marvin Hagler’s punches. Here’s how I scored the fight: Round 1: 5/4 Hagler Round 2: 5/4 Hagler (10-8) Round 3: 5/4 Hagler (15-12) Round 4: 4/5 Briscoe (19-17) Round 5: 5/4 Hagler (24-21) Round 6: 5/4 Hagler (29-25) Round 7: 5/4 Hagler (34-29) Round 8: 5/4 Hagler (39-33) Round 9: 5/4 Hagler (44-37) Round 10: 5/4 Hagler (49-41) Real rough fight, but Hagler was clearly in command with his better boxing and ring generalship, which is why I had him winning 9 rounds to 1.
Good ole Mr.Briscoe R.I.P. legend i knew him and worked with him before he passed at area 3 sanitation yard a real real nice and good man taught me a whole lot told me when I first started at sanitation where we going young man?lol gotta slow down we got all day to collect these 3 loads on this small truck he the 2 days I worked on a small trash truck because I had worked previously a week prior on a 25 yard tandem and a 32 yard tandem truck working with two heavy weight Trash men whom were both get it and go pick up (thats fast moving trash pick up talk )lol 😆 miss those days wish I listened more intently to Mr.Briscoe back then I was a fresh brash strong cocky thinking 23 year old now I'm an old soon to be 46 year old with a 70 year olds back and left knee whom couldn't see the take your time and preserve yourself speech that served me well after I left the City of streets department Sanitation with a back injury it became apparent and good advice after i got hurt ironic right but golden because I got better and went and got another job and took heed .Thank You Mr.Briscoe Rest well sir and Godbless
Right on charles ! ...i was a sanitation worker at area 6 for 10 yrs. ...2005-2015 ..also i have been a boxing fan since i was 10 (huge fan) ..i was so suprised when i started , the stories of b.b. became known to me . i knew he was a tough and gritty boxer , but what really confirmed those traits was the time he put in sanitation !! ...you brought up some good points regarding the job !
@@Rayneman215 ...absolutely charles !! ...many great people at area 6 sanitation !! ...i loved the "perks" the job had to offer - i just had trouble in the summer when it was 90-95 everyday , i cramped up alot , man ...i did 10 yrs and left in 2015 ...i probably still would be there if june-sept. Did not exist ..lmao ! . from one warrior to another !! ..and speaking of warriors , how about bennie !! ...that man had alot of heart !! ...that was boxing in the 1970's ..all about heart ..the paydays were not much compared to the last 30 yrs. Or so ...but those dudes fought on heart and pride !! ...briscoe Hagler ..duran ..hearns ...willy "the worm" monroe ..john "the beast" mugabi ...wilfredo benitez ..frank "the animal" fletcher ...anthony "two guns" ...etc. ..etc. ...my pops and i used to go to the blue horizon in the 90's ...watching local guys like "rocking" rodney moore ..paul"earthquake" moore..and the "punching postman" tony thornton !! ...i was sitting close up for the holyfield-foreman match at the atlantic city convention center !
@@michaelkoszowski3716 all facts yeah those summer days were brutal man I used to throw in shorts lol and wow classic boxing line up thats quite a history of going to see the greats fight I would've love to have see those fights a most of them I was too young to go to
Si Carlos Monzón no lo pudo noquear en 1972 cuando era joven....menos lo podría hacer Hagler...y eso que Briscoe ya estaba casi viejo y retirado. Las peleas importantes Hagler no las gano como frente a Leonard y frente a Duran que se la robaron...y Hearns estaba fuera de peso, en una categoría de poco peso para el....otro detalle es que Hagler nunca quiso cambiar de categoría como lo hicieron los otros 3. Carlos Monzón le hubiera ganado a Hagler...
Si señor comparto su opinión en una entrevista le preguntaron a ángelo dundee manager nada menos que de ali y leonard quien ganaría en una pelea entre monzon hagler dundee dijo monzon lo mata monzon era un asesino con guantes y creo que el hombre sabe bastante de boxeo
La pelea contra Leonard se la robaron a Hagler! La contra Durán la ganó por poco, pero la ganó. Hearns noqueó Duran en dos asaltos y aún peleaba bien como un lightheavyweight, entonces no estaba fuera de peso: como peso mediano Hearns noqueó a Roldán también. Entiendo que estés por el lado de Monzón, pero no disminuyas a Hagler.
@@skinking2252 Cierto, robaron a Hagler vs Leonard. De haberse enfrentado contra Monzòn Hagler hubiese tenido ventaja porque Monzón ya estaba retirado. Monzón era muy duro pero Hagler tenía más boxeo.
Who are the commentary announcers? .. I believe one of them is black , and to me he is good , he knows his stuff, not saying that the other guy doesn't know ,cuz he is pretty good too but the black gentleman impresses me with his boxing knowledge 👍👍
Briscoe was dominated against Monzon in his prime while Brisco gave Marvin Hagler problems when he was on his way out... Truth be told if Monzon fought Hagler early on in his career such as Briscoe did Monzon would've dominated Hagler as well
Jayson Morales I don’t know about that. Styles make fights. Carlos Monzon at his best against the Marvin Hagler that beat Roberto Duran and John Mugabi would’ve been an interesting matchup. I got Hagler winning that fight.
In no way, shape or form Briscoe gave Marvin Problems in this fight. Hagler totally dominated here while Monzon had all he could handle with Briscoe. Marvin boxed beautifully here and made Briscoe swing at air all night. I watched Monzons fights and I can tell you that a multi faceted fighter like Marvin at his peak would have put a beating on Monzon much like he did Alan Minter. And I'm an admirer of Monzon. Styles make fights and Marvin had too many levels to his game for Monzon. As for these disgusting announcers, they make me sick. One thing I don't like are bullshit artists and these announcers are the very definition of that. Hagler tattooed Briscoe in the second round and these douches gave it to Briscoe off of aggression????
@@fitzgeraldanthony9333 oh i totally agree. The only thing i would say is briscoe was not in his prime against hagler, whereas he was against monzon. Regardless, hagler would have lit the great monzon up
hagler had not learned to set down on his punches at this point in his career (or in the first Antuofermo fight for that matter). If he had he would have had both guys out before the finish.
Monzon a arrêté en 77/77. De quand date ce combat (très serré) ? Hagler n' a pas encore le côté "destructeur" qu'on lui a connu dans les années 80. Comment étaient choisi ses adversaires ?
What does Monzon, have to do with this fight, unless you are comparing Monzon with Hagler? Briscoe also hurt Monzon in the ninth round, but Monzon came back hurt Briscoe several times in their fifteen round contest. Briscoe also fought a draw with Monzon in 1967. The major difference is that in 1978 Briscoe is no longer in his prime, while in 1967 and 1972 Monzon fought a prime Briscoe. The second Monzon vs Briscoe championship bout fought in Buenos Aires, Bennie lost to Carlos by 12-3 or 13-2 rounds, so he lost pretty decisively. Harry Greb, Sugar Ray Robinson and Carlos Monzon were the greatest middleweights of all time with Marvin Hagler also in the discussion.
Alexander Villagran. Also,another thing to point out is that Monzon wasnt yet in his prime when he fought Prime-Briscoe to a draw in 1967. Monzon was a bit of a late bloomer. His prime truly began in 1970 when he was in his late-20's. The first fight/win against Benvenuti for the MW-Title was the beginning of Monzon's prime.
Bris was a few younger and in his prime when he fought Monzon, this isn’t a prime Brisco. Solid but a step slower. Bris could give anyone a fight. if he hits you square as Monzon stated, fight is over he has so much raw power. Why hagler like Monzon, boxed and moved all fight long. Nobody wanted to slug with Bris. 😳 Fact is Bris fought two of greatest middleweights. 1 Monzon 2 Robinson 3 Kreb 4.ketchel 5 Hagler and Monzon ended his career on a 81 fight undefeated streak having held title longer defended more than any other middleweight without interruption. But just pure mudfleweightvwould be between Monzon and Harry krebs. By all means kreb was greatest if you include quality of opponents he gave so many hall of fame middle weights a L when he fought middle wright was the glamour division, and ketchel and kreb were one two. Robinson was untouchable as welter wright going 99-1 one loss was to Jake lamotta . He won six additional fights with lamotta. Against larger folks at middleweight. Robinson was as bigger, more powerful fighters size does make a difference and Robinson won middle title several times but we are just going by middle wright fights. Hagler is fifth in this very deep class of fighters some may put Henry Armstrong ahead of hagler along with several middleweights like gene Tunney who fought middleweight light heavy wright and heavyweight and his only loss was to best middleweight in history in Harry kreb. Robinson best years were at welterweight. He was an outstanding middleweight just not have same effect as he did at welterweight. Tunney introduced World to technical boxing. Joe Louis would soon adapt tunneys tactical technique at heavywright a few years later. was the first ta boxer who drove the great Dempsey to retire when he saw future of fighting Tunney never on a list which he should be he taught world how to technical box. everytime he went into ring his hand was raised but once. His only loss was to the great kreb. Still hard to believe in that era Tunney only had one loss. Amazing. Middle weightvis most packed division as good as Roy Jones aas he only came in 12th on my list as a middleweight. There were a lot of great middleweights. Probly a lot you never heard of but I could put dick tiger on list as well there so many great middleweights! Kreb beat most hall of famers on this list. He also fought different weight classes weighing at middle weight weight. Sad he died at such young age on surgery table heart condition . 😢 kreb was also first champion who didn’t care what color you were if you could fight he would fight you something that couldn’t be said of all champions during his era. He wanted to fight best whoever they were. He was first fighter to be acknowledged as p4p number one all time. No one has his resume. Not even the great Robinson! Who was number 2 on p4p list those are are pretty elite company. Modern middleweight would be Carlos Monzon he retired as champion going out on a 81 fight undefeated streak! He was closest thing to an Ali both could hit you with sting powerful punches while backing up only two fighters I ever seen do that . And Carlos was the top tactician at msking in ring adjustments. When something not working he would change not round by round but moment by moment. And he threw punches in combinations on last punch he was backing away leaving you no target to hit. He was a master of the side pivot and firing straight rights off the pivot fighters never saw that punch coming. People always said he was slow but he was always first to hit you repeatedly over and over and over again! He was the greatest middleweight my eyes personally seen. He so calm in ring such a tactical fighter too bad he couldn’t find that calmness outside the ring. Monzon kreb Ketchel and Robinson hagler Dick tiger Bob Fitzsimmons those are sev of my top middleweights.Ketchel was the first great fighter having won middle weight and higher weight titles there were no official heavy weight title he was awarded it when he destroyed the heavyweight and he fought at 164 lbs but he fought all three weights middleweight light heavyweight and heavywright he was simply extraordinary considering he started in 1896 going back a few years 😮🤣 But that’s how you create a history not just a present bias. You did say greatest middleweights in history! Those are just seven I could add seven more before I even get to Roy Jones jr which is insane! But this is deepest class of fighters in history and Jones only had a peak of 2.5 years at middleweight his only notable fight was b hop the others not so much he was much better st super middleweight but we don’t include those classes in middleweight debates which hurts Jones resume. No artificial weight classes here. Just the original eight weight classes. That determine a fighters resume vs other fighters. Can’t go wrong with this top six! They also represent various eras one fighter that’s missing is gene Tunney who fought middleweights light heavyweights and heavyweights having lost just once in his career! He created what’s called technical boxing or how fighters fight today! He was skilled so much do Dempsey saw wring on wall went into acting and speaking engagements he was always a natural showman in front of a crowd! Suited JD. Just a few of my thoughts from my fight archive. Li have a lot of material from my grand parents and great grand parents just relieved a few ofcthier stories of kreb one fighter I missed was Henry Armstrong who held lightweight welterweight middleweight simultaneously and defended titles he held he lost a spilit decision at light heavyweight or he would have held titles simultaneously in four of the eight wright classes! Instead just three! Armstrong was perhaps best infighter in boxing history. Didn’t include him in middleweight because he was fighting in several weight classes simultaneously. I didn’t revise how deep of a class middleweight actually was.
¡ Monzon le va a ganar a Hagler! ¡ Ese tronco que no sabia ni pararse en el ring y era mas lento que una tortuga!¡ Nunca escuche una pelotudez semejante!
@@diegomartinez8998 no sabia pararse? Fue campeon durante 7 años nadie le pudo ganar que decis pelandrum a este briscoe que aca pelea con hagler tiene como 50 años y mira la pelea que le hizo contra monzon peleo cuando era joven y monzon le gano 2 veces
Are the commentators mad. What fight were they watching. The fight was not anywhere close. From the first round hagker used Briscoe as a human punching bag. I don't think Briscoe won a single round.
Briscoe is one guy you better be ready for.Great fighter.Durably tough. Ok now on to this Commentator. He is all Briscoe through the whole fight to a point where it sounds like something personal. He spends the whole fight talking about Briscoe this and Briscoe that. Hagler gets no credit for his Ring Generalship and his well rounded attack of going foward and fighting backwards. Great footwork and head movement.He also closed the show by not leaving it in the judges hands in Philadelphia by closing the show with almost doing away with Benny.His display of throwing accurate short punches is always underrated and unappreciated. Benny Briscoe showed poor Sportsmanship during the instructions and at the end of the fight.Hagler showed class by acknowledging him anyway. I am wondering if the Commentator is Willie Monroe, or Bugaloo Watts. Good thing he wasn't involved in the scoring!
Wow. These Philadelphia guys were full of it! Lol. Hagler’s taking their guy apart, but they’re singing Briscoe’s praises! I see how Marvin lost 2 decisions in Philly in 2 months. Marvin later Ko’d both of them. Marvin’s bearing him to death & they say “pretty even fight so far.” “Briscoe one of the greats.” Yawn 🥱 he looked like a bum.
Este Briscoe está lento como una tortuga, si Hagler enfrentaba al Briscoe de 6 años antes que enfrentó Monzón se la lleva sin dudas Briscoe, no me quisiera imaginar si enfrentaba Hagler a Monzón, le sacaba la cabeza.
I don't give a shit what the commentators say or think. Bennie Briscoe beat Monzon like a drum in 1972 in Argentina.. had him backing up all night long and had him KO'd in the 9th. But hometown referee interfered early and often and with 3 Argentinian judges who do you think got the decision. Monzon had a 58% KO ratio. Hagler had the highest KO ratio (74%) in middle weight history. Hagler would've backed Monzon up all night long and then he would've put him to sleep
Even though Hagler was obviously getting 2 times more jabs than Briscoe, Briscoe put up one hell of a fight. He was always moving on Hagler, always pursuing him relentlessly. If this was a 12 round fight I believe Briscoe could of come close to knocking Hagler out due to the loss of stamina on Hagler's part and the consistency of Briscoe's pursuement
@Black Vitriol Well Briscoe had his rematch when he was still in his prime & was dominated against Monzon... Tbh if Marvin Hagler had some trouble against an old Briscoe he probably would've been dominated against Monzon as well
I DON'T THINK SO HAGLER WAS WELL ROUNDED A BOXER PUNCHER AND HAD A WORLD CLASS CHIN HE WOULD HAVE MADE MONZON A ONE DIMENSIONAL FIGHTER I ALWAYS THOUGHT HAGLER WOULD ALWAYS BE AS TOUGH AS HIS COMPETITION AND HE WAS HUNGRY.
Hagler is sooo skilled. The man can bang, box, has excellent head movement and conditioning. Legend!!!
hagler was skilled but at this point in his career had not learned to set down on his punches like he did later.
I know I sound like a old man but imagine if they were fighting today ? 50 odd fights before a title shot ! Real fighters !!
One of my favorite fights of Marvin's. Showed that he could box going in any direction (doing a solid job of boxing on the outside, then later on the inside a very tough and game Benny Briscoe). That he wasn't a brawler or puncher who swung wildly, looking to knock the other guy out. He could outbox his opponents (if the game plan called for it) as well. Rest easy Marvin, there weren't many like yourself.
En esa pelea briscoe tenia 40 añis..
That jab wasn't missing
Hagler quel champion il n'aurait dû jamais accepter le combat avec Léonard ou les règles ont été changées pour faire gagner de l'argent à des organisateurs on a demandé à Hagler de descendre de poids en poids super welter de mettre des gants qui rendaient moins dur l'impact des coups le combat a été disputé en douze rounds au lieu de quinze rounds ce n'était pas un match de boxe c'était un spectacle organisé si Hagler avait disputé le combat en quinze rounds avec ses gants habituel et au poids moyen il aurait gagné
Hagler was still a bit green here, he was still boxing more as opposed to the unorthodox destroyer they we became to love. It would've been nice had we got Carlos Monzon vs Marvin Hagler.
Gotta take Monzon in that match up..
Hargler was marvelous to watch what a cool and calmed boxer with vicious left hook
Briscoe was rugged, could take a punch and always gave a good performance.
7⁶
Hizo una gran pelea con Monzón 8 años antes
Hagler was beautiful to watch. He really was great
How come Marvin hagler is less popular than mike Tyson? From tony sibson to this beast.... it is obvious who is the best middleweight of all time. Personally, he is the best boxer of all time,
Just due to heavyweights getting more attention. Tyson a legend but Marvin more so!!
Mike Tyson was a hype job Marvin got it out the mud not hype just fights
Ni por casualidad,como se nota que de boxeo no sabes nada.Monzón le ganó por 13 puntos a un joven Briscoe.Hagler le ganó por unos pocos puntos a un viejo Briscoe.Y no le pudo ganar la primera pelea a Antuofermo,ex sparring de Monzón
@@oscarfernandez6687Nonsense, Hagler beat Antuofermo in ‘81. He also beat Sibson, Hearns, Minter and Hamsho twice. Ray Leonard waited till Haglers last right to controversially beat him.
@@johnmc3862 And so?Hagler beat Antuofermo the SECOND time,but not the first.Antuofermo was really bad.And beat an old Briscoe by only 3 points
Marvin putting on a boxing clinic against a serious serious man in Briscoe.
The battle of huge cabeza's. Man, both Bennie and Marvin had dangerous weapons resting on their shoulders. Great fight and great post. Thanks TartanSoldier.
I bursted out Laughing
Benny Briscoe was tough and resilient dude in his time...he gave hagler a tough fight and I commend Benny but Hagler is another level. Styles makes fights and this was a great one just like Monzon's battle's vs Briscoe
One of the great fighters (Briscoe), that formed the great champion Hagler would become… Great fighters here. By all accounts. Class A match-up here.
Briscoe era viejo ya ...
Una mediocre actuación de Hagler
This was 40 years ago!
Good fight and cool moment in boxing history. Something about Hagler made commentators and judges see a different fight than the one that actually took place. Hagler was a great tactician and boxer, and I guess they stereotyped him as a brawler.
iha asc This!
Yeah I agree with you man. I don’t know what those commentators were watching, I had the fight completely one sided in Hagler’s favor. I had it 9 rounds to 1! The only round I gave to Bennie Briscoe was the 4th.
Very good comment.
Commentators are idiotic losers
Jeez. Hagler was tatooing his face. Briscoe just walked around eating punches.
I reckon this was Haglers best fight. He displays great movement and brilliant combination punching.
His best might have been when he destroyed Mustafa Hamsho in their rematch.
One of many great performances by Hagler. The night he took world title from Alan Minter in London, akaMinter’s “back yard” was an impressive event altogether. Very dramatic to watch.
Hager vs. Sibson. Hager had more pop in his punches by then.
Agreed re sibson. More confident - stood down on his punches , more aggressive.
Peleaba con un briscoe viejo ..veterano ..venido abajo ..
Not merely a matter of age, Hagler was way more skilled and gifted...
No se notó mucho aquí
Briscoe had a lot of heart. Tough boxer. However, I thought Hagler won each round. The sportscasters were in Briscoe's corner. Hagler kept landing punches while Briscoe kept missing. Good fight. Hagler all the way.
Hagler won easy on points but it was anything but easy! Fuck knows what the commentator was watching.
I'm always AMAZED at Marvelous' accuracy on punches, whether he's first or counter punching. Second Best TRUE middleweight all-time in my estimation!
And jab wasn't talked about enough in my opinion
He's shooting a sharp ass Jab
2nd best behind who?
El tercero
These announcers were brutal! The fight was not really close at all. Hagler outpointed him all the way and it was never in doubt. Briscoe is a hell of a fighter, but it wasn't his night. Hagler had his number this time around.
Yeah they were blowing my mind. "Gave that round to Brisco based on damage to the eye and stalking"? The damage you just said was from a headbutt and stalking while being tattooed? Ok cool story bro
They were awful. Made up storylines and lots of mistakes
Did I hear the commentators say it was even at the beginning of the 4th round? WTF?
Hagler's punchstat was 95% connect rate
Poetry in motion.
Great fight. My first time seeing it. Hagler came a long way as a fighter. Here in this fight, he was more of a finesse southpaw. Moving around the entire ring all night and sticking Briscoe with combinations. Hagler became a much better in-fighter as his career went on. Binnie Briscoe is one of the most resilient fighters to ever do it. He was never phased by Marvin Hagler’s punches. Here’s how I scored the fight:
Round 1: 5/4 Hagler
Round 2: 5/4 Hagler (10-8)
Round 3: 5/4 Hagler (15-12)
Round 4: 4/5 Briscoe (19-17)
Round 5: 5/4 Hagler (24-21)
Round 6: 5/4 Hagler (29-25)
Round 7: 5/4 Hagler (34-29)
Round 8: 5/4 Hagler (39-33)
Round 9: 5/4 Hagler (44-37)
Round 10: 5/4 Hagler (49-41)
Real rough fight, but Hagler was clearly in command with his better boxing and ring generalship, which is why I had him winning 9 rounds to 1.
Monzón le ganó a Briscoe 8 años antes y más ampliamente
Por 13 puntos de diferencia
Brioche was younger so less skilled
Brioche was younger so less skilled
2 Warriors! Thanks for posting. maurice
Good ole Mr.Briscoe R.I.P. legend i knew him and worked with him before he passed at area 3 sanitation yard a real real nice and good man taught me a whole lot told me when I first started at sanitation where we going young man?lol gotta slow down we got all day to collect these 3 loads on this small truck he the 2 days I worked on a small trash truck because I had worked previously a week prior on a 25 yard tandem and a 32 yard tandem truck working with two heavy weight Trash men whom were both get it and go pick up (thats fast moving trash pick up talk )lol 😆 miss those days wish I listened more intently to Mr.Briscoe back then I was a fresh brash strong cocky thinking 23 year old now I'm an old soon to be 46 year old with a 70 year olds back and left knee whom couldn't see the take your time and preserve yourself speech that served me well after I left the City of streets department Sanitation with a back injury it became apparent and good advice after i got hurt ironic right but golden because I got better and went and got another job and took heed .Thank You Mr.Briscoe Rest well sir and Godbless
Right on charles ! ...i was a sanitation worker at area 6 for 10 yrs. ...2005-2015 ..also i have been a boxing fan since i was 10 (huge fan) ..i was so suprised when i started , the stories of b.b. became known to me . i knew he was a tough and gritty boxer , but what really confirmed those traits was the time he put in sanitation !! ...you brought up some good points regarding the job !
@@michaelkoszowski3716 indeed my friend very good memories and good people too
@@michaelkoszowski3716 also you started when I was leaving out on injury I started in 98
@@Rayneman215 ...absolutely charles !! ...many great people at area 6 sanitation !! ...i loved the "perks" the job had to offer - i just had trouble in the summer when it was 90-95 everyday , i cramped up alot , man ...i did 10 yrs and left in 2015 ...i probably still would be there if june-sept. Did not exist ..lmao ! . from one warrior to another !! ..and speaking of warriors , how about bennie !! ...that man had alot of heart !! ...that was boxing in the 1970's ..all about heart ..the paydays were not much compared to the last 30 yrs. Or so ...but those dudes fought on heart and pride !! ...briscoe Hagler ..duran ..hearns ...willy "the worm" monroe ..john "the beast" mugabi ...wilfredo benitez ..frank "the animal" fletcher ...anthony "two guns" ...etc. ..etc. ...my pops and i used to go to the blue horizon in the 90's ...watching local guys like "rocking" rodney moore ..paul"earthquake" moore..and the "punching postman" tony thornton !! ...i was sitting close up for the holyfield-foreman match at the atlantic city convention center !
@@michaelkoszowski3716 all facts yeah those summer days were brutal man I used to throw in shorts lol and wow classic boxing line up thats quite a history of going to see the greats fight I would've love to have see those fights a most of them I was too young to go to
I don’t think Briscoe won a single round but he was a tough cookie.
que fenomeno yo pelee esa noche hice una preliminar..orgullo..grande...
Yo tmb pelee esa noche !..con mi mujer !!...y perdi 😆
It was billed as the "Battle of the Balds". I saw it. i thought Bennie would win, but Hagler was great.
Hagler clearly wins second round and commentators say the score it for benifit.of on agressivenise. Jokers
Claro,siendo mucho más joven cualquiera es genial...
i fell so amazed by this fight
Si Carlos Monzón no lo pudo noquear en 1972 cuando era joven....menos lo podría hacer Hagler...y eso que Briscoe ya estaba casi viejo y retirado.
Las peleas importantes Hagler no las gano como frente a Leonard y frente a Duran que se la robaron...y Hearns estaba fuera de peso, en una categoría de poco peso para el....otro detalle es que Hagler nunca quiso cambiar de categoría como lo hicieron los otros 3.
Carlos Monzón le hubiera ganado a Hagler...
Si señor comparto su opinión en una entrevista le preguntaron a ángelo dundee manager nada menos que de ali y leonard quien ganaría en una pelea entre monzon hagler dundee dijo monzon lo mata monzon era un asesino con guantes y creo que el hombre sabe bastante de boxeo
Bennie was tough and respected he took Hagler to another level!
La pelea contra Leonard se la robaron a Hagler! La contra Durán la ganó por poco, pero la ganó. Hearns noqueó Duran en dos asaltos y aún peleaba bien como un lightheavyweight, entonces no estaba fuera de peso: como peso mediano Hearns noqueó a Roldán también. Entiendo que estés por el lado de Monzón, pero no disminuyas a Hagler.
Sos un pelotudo!! ¡ Anda a jugar a la bolita!
@@skinking2252 Cierto, robaron a Hagler vs Leonard.
De haberse enfrentado contra Monzòn Hagler hubiese tenido ventaja porque Monzón ya estaba retirado.
Monzón era muy duro pero Hagler tenía más boxeo.
Not a big deal to outbox Briscoe he lost 24 times. He was impossible to knock out.
Unless your name was Rodrigo Valdez. But I agree, Bennie would have had one of the greatest chins in boxing history.
Questa è vera Boxe
Who are the commentary announcers? .. I believe one of them is black , and to me he is good , he knows his stuff, not saying that the other guy doesn't know ,cuz he is pretty good too but the black gentleman impresses me with his boxing knowledge 👍👍
これを見てると、ロドリコバルデスやカルロスモンソンの大口も納得出来る。70年代ミドル級も凄いレベルやったなあと
Whenever I see a Hagler fight that went more than a couple of rounds I wonder if the opponent is still alive now, and what shape he's in.
Foolish comment. Hagler did not deliver the kind of blow you are talking about at this point in his career.
Hagler wasn't the puncher in this fight
Salute them all good men
Bennie got to be beat up by everyone. Amazing the big names he lost to.
tha real best ever. haggler. Undefeated. Thy gav him thos bull shit loses. wates & tha worm.. Toro & monzon ducked & ran from haggler
No te drogues amigo.No sabes un crajo de boxeo
if brisco was able to hit minion so easily, hagler would have had no. trouble hitting monzon. and whatever haglercan hit, haglercan hurt.
Briscoe was dominated against Monzon in his prime while Brisco gave Marvin Hagler problems when he was on his way out... Truth be told if Monzon fought Hagler early on in his career such as Briscoe did Monzon would've dominated Hagler as well
Glenn Bullock he couldn’t hurt Briscoe.
Jayson Morales I don’t know about that. Styles make fights. Carlos Monzon at his best against the Marvin Hagler that beat Roberto Duran and John Mugabi would’ve been an interesting matchup. I got Hagler winning that fight.
In no way, shape or form Briscoe gave Marvin Problems in this fight. Hagler totally dominated here while Monzon had all he could handle with Briscoe. Marvin boxed beautifully here and made Briscoe swing at air all night. I watched Monzons fights and I can tell you that a multi faceted fighter like Marvin at his peak would have put a beating on Monzon much like he did Alan Minter. And I'm an admirer of Monzon. Styles make fights and Marvin had too many levels to his game for Monzon. As for these disgusting announcers, they make me sick. One thing I don't like are bullshit artists and these announcers are the very definition of that. Hagler tattooed Briscoe in the second round and these douches gave it to Briscoe off of aggression????
@@fitzgeraldanthony9333 oh i totally agree. The only thing i would say is briscoe was not in his prime against hagler, whereas he was against monzon. Regardless, hagler would have lit the great monzon up
These commentators suck. What fight are they looking at? This wasn't close
I love how stupid these bleep hole commentators were so wroooong! Bleep you sugar. Hagler GOAT
hagler had not learned to set down on his punches at this point in his career (or in the first Antuofermo fight for that matter). If he had he would have had both guys out before the finish.
He had 32 kos he did, you can't knock everyone out
Who are the announcers?
Monzon a arrêté en 77/77.
De quand date ce combat (très serré) ?
Hagler n' a pas encore le côté "destructeur" qu'on lui a connu dans les années 80.
Comment étaient choisi ses adversaires ?
Briscoe only landed 2 shots in the 1st round. Bennie landed more punches on Monzon in opening rounds of their encounters.
What does Monzon, have to do with this fight, unless you are comparing Monzon with Hagler? Briscoe also hurt Monzon in the ninth round, but Monzon came back hurt Briscoe several times in their fifteen round contest. Briscoe also fought a draw with Monzon in 1967. The major difference is that in 1978 Briscoe is no longer in his prime, while in 1967 and 1972 Monzon fought a prime Briscoe. The second Monzon vs Briscoe championship bout fought in Buenos Aires, Bennie lost to Carlos by 12-3 or 13-2 rounds, so he lost pretty decisively. Harry Greb, Sugar Ray Robinson and Carlos Monzon were the greatest middleweights of all time with Marvin Hagler also in the discussion.
OK, that`s probably why Briscoe was missing wildly here, his first ten punches thrown in the first round all missed by miles!
Alexander Villagran. Also,another thing to point out is that Monzon wasnt yet in his prime when he fought Prime-Briscoe to a draw in 1967. Monzon was a bit of a late bloomer. His prime truly began in 1970 when he was in his late-20's. The first fight/win against Benvenuti for the MW-Title was the beginning of Monzon's prime.
Bris was a few younger and in his prime when he fought Monzon, this isn’t a prime Brisco. Solid but a step slower. Bris could give anyone a fight. if he hits you square as Monzon stated, fight is over he has so much raw power. Why hagler like Monzon, boxed and moved all fight long. Nobody wanted to slug with Bris. 😳 Fact is Bris fought two of greatest middleweights. 1 Monzon 2 Robinson 3 Kreb 4.ketchel 5 Hagler and Monzon ended his career on a 81 fight undefeated streak having held title longer defended more than any other middleweight without interruption. But just pure mudfleweightvwould be between Monzon and Harry krebs.
By all means kreb was greatest if you include quality of opponents he gave so many hall of fame middle weights a L when he fought middle wright was the glamour division, and ketchel and kreb were one two. Robinson was untouchable as welter wright going 99-1 one loss was to Jake lamotta . He won six additional fights with lamotta. Against larger folks at middleweight. Robinson was as bigger, more powerful fighters size does make a difference and Robinson won middle title several times but we are just going by middle wright fights. Hagler is fifth in this very deep class of fighters some may put Henry Armstrong ahead of hagler along with several middleweights like gene Tunney who fought middleweight light heavy wright and heavyweight and his only loss was to best middleweight in history in Harry kreb.
Robinson best years were at welterweight. He was an outstanding middleweight just not have same effect as he did at welterweight. Tunney introduced World to technical boxing. Joe Louis would soon adapt tunneys tactical technique at heavywright a few years later. was the first ta boxer who drove the great Dempsey to retire when he saw future of fighting Tunney never on a list which he should be he taught world how to technical box. everytime he went into ring his hand was raised but once. His only loss was to the great kreb. Still hard to believe in that era Tunney only had one loss. Amazing. Middle weightvis most packed division as good as Roy Jones aas he only came in 12th on my list as a middleweight. There were a lot of great middleweights. Probly a lot you never heard of but I could put dick tiger on list as well there so many great middleweights! Kreb beat most hall of famers on this list. He also fought different weight classes weighing at middle weight weight. Sad he died at such young age on surgery table heart condition . 😢 kreb was also first champion who didn’t care what color you were if you could fight he would fight you something that couldn’t be said of all champions during his era. He wanted to fight best whoever they were. He was first fighter to be acknowledged as p4p number one all time. No one has his resume. Not even the great Robinson! Who was number 2 on p4p list those are are pretty elite company. Modern middleweight would be Carlos Monzon he retired as champion going out on a 81 fight undefeated streak! He was closest thing to an Ali both could hit you with sting powerful punches while backing up only two fighters I ever seen do that . And Carlos was the top tactician at msking in ring adjustments. When something not working he would change not round by round but moment by moment. And he threw punches in combinations on last punch he was backing away leaving you no target to hit. He was a master of the side pivot and firing straight rights off the pivot fighters never saw that punch coming. People always said he was slow but he was always first to hit you repeatedly over and over and over again! He was the greatest middleweight my eyes personally seen. He so calm in ring such a tactical fighter too bad he couldn’t find that calmness outside the ring. Monzon kreb Ketchel and Robinson hagler Dick tiger Bob Fitzsimmons those are sev of my top middleweights.Ketchel was the first great fighter having won middle weight and higher weight titles there were no official heavy weight title he was awarded it when he destroyed the heavyweight and he fought at 164 lbs but he fought all three weights middleweight light heavyweight and heavywright he was simply extraordinary considering he started in 1896 going back a few years 😮🤣 But that’s how you create a history not just a present bias. You did say greatest middleweights in history! Those are just seven I could add seven more before I even get to Roy Jones jr which is insane! But this is deepest class of fighters in history and Jones only had a peak of 2.5 years at middleweight his only notable fight was b hop the others not so much he was much better st super middleweight but we don’t include those classes in middleweight debates which hurts Jones resume. No artificial weight classes here. Just the original eight weight classes. That determine a fighters resume vs other fighters. Can’t go wrong with this top six! They also represent various eras one fighter that’s missing is gene Tunney who fought middleweights light heavyweights and heavyweights having lost just once in his career! He created what’s called technical boxing or how fighters fight today! He was skilled so much do Dempsey saw wring on wall went into acting and speaking engagements he was always a natural showman in front of a crowd! Suited JD. Just a few of my thoughts from my fight archive. Li have a lot of material from my grand parents and great grand parents just relieved a few ofcthier stories of kreb one fighter I missed was Henry Armstrong who held lightweight welterweight middleweight simultaneously and defended titles he held he lost a spilit decision at light heavyweight or he would have held titles simultaneously in four of the eight wright classes! Instead just three! Armstrong was perhaps best infighter in boxing history. Didn’t include him in middleweight because he was fighting in several weight classes simultaneously. I didn’t revise how deep of a class middleweight actually was.
Pro Briscoe Commentaters...Very Bad
Monzón a briscoo le gano 2 veces y a marvin le hubiere a ganado tmb
No, empataron la primera y la segunda gano Monzón.
¡ Monzon le va a ganar a Hagler! ¡ Ese tronco que no sabia ni pararse en el ring y era mas lento que una tortuga!¡ Nunca escuche una pelotudez semejante!
@@diegomartinez8998 no sabia pararse? Fue campeon durante 7 años nadie le pudo ganar que decis pelandrum a este briscoe que aca pelea con hagler tiene como 50 años y mira la pelea que le hizo contra monzon peleo cuando era joven y monzon le gano 2 veces
@@eltitan2636Monzon no existe
@@diegomartinez8998 tomatela pelandrum estamos hablando del mejor medio de la historia y me decis que no existe pero no seas chambon
Hagler in fight with legend Carlos Monzón , nothing for to do .briscoe in this fight were un last Time of career
Are the commentators mad. What fight were they watching. The fight was not anywhere close. From the first round hagker used Briscoe as a human punching bag. I don't think Briscoe won a single round.
Hagler would beat the dog shit out of Monzon, respect to the legend tho, but Hagler was a different level
Briscoe is one guy you better be ready for.Great fighter.Durably tough. Ok now on to this Commentator. He is all Briscoe through the whole fight to a point where it sounds like something personal. He spends the whole fight talking about Briscoe this and Briscoe that. Hagler gets no credit for his Ring Generalship and his well rounded attack of going foward and fighting backwards. Great footwork and head movement.He also closed the show by not leaving it in the judges hands in Philadelphia by closing the show with almost doing away with Benny.His display of throwing accurate short punches is always underrated and unappreciated. Benny Briscoe showed poor Sportsmanship during the instructions and at the end of the fight.Hagler showed class by acknowledging him anyway. I am wondering if the Commentator is Willie Monroe, or Bugaloo Watts. Good thing he wasn't involved in the scoring!
Wow. These Philadelphia guys were full of it! Lol. Hagler’s taking their guy apart, but they’re singing Briscoe’s praises! I see how Marvin lost 2 decisions in Philly in 2 months. Marvin later Ko’d both of them. Marvin’s bearing him to death & they say “pretty even fight so far.” “Briscoe one of the greats.” Yawn 🥱 he looked like a bum.
If you think Briscoe looked like a bum you don’t know much about boxing John
I also meant and talked with Willie the Worm and serverd in the Army National Guard with Paul Moore
No you didn’t
This commentators are terrible ful of hate for hagler
A Briscoe en su plenitud boxistica Hagler no le gana .
Briscoe looked shot
Hagler could use his legs back then
Este Briscoe está lento como una tortuga, si Hagler enfrentaba al Briscoe de 6 años antes que enfrentó Monzón se la lleva sin dudas Briscoe, no me quisiera imaginar si enfrentaba Hagler a Monzón, le sacaba la cabeza.
Commentator had the last 3 rounds even?? DaFaq.
28:44
Ok
Briscoe era un carrarmato
Monzon le ganaba a los dos
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Hagler is overrated a young Benny would have beat Hagler
100-93 Hagler
Hagler was the best
Monzón defeats easily a younger Briscoe but Hagler had to suffer to won (?) on decision an older Briscoe...draw your conclusions
Monzón le hubiera ganado a Hagler
I don't give a shit what the commentators say or think. Bennie Briscoe beat Monzon like a drum in 1972 in Argentina.. had him backing up all night long and had him KO'd in the 9th. But hometown referee interfered early and often and with 3 Argentinian judges who do you think got the decision. Monzon had a 58% KO ratio. Hagler had the highest KO ratio (74%) in middle weight history. Hagler would've backed Monzon up all night long and then he would've put him to sleep
Monzon ...
Hagler nunca quizo pelear con valdez le huia ....
Even though Hagler was obviously getting 2 times more jabs than Briscoe, Briscoe put up one hell of a fight. He was always moving on Hagler, always pursuing him relentlessly. If this was a 12 round fight I believe Briscoe could of come close to knocking Hagler out due to the loss of stamina on Hagler's part and the consistency of Briscoe's pursuement
1417 that's ridiculous
Andy Thompson absolutely ridiculous.
MONZON CRACK BRISCOE AND HAGLER!
@Black Vitriol Well Briscoe had his rematch when he was still in his prime & was dominated against Monzon... Tbh if Marvin Hagler had some trouble against an old Briscoe he probably would've been dominated against Monzon as well
@@jaysonmorales1776 you've said the plain truth.
I DON'T THINK SO HAGLER WAS WELL ROUNDED A BOXER PUNCHER AND HAD A WORLD CLASS CHIN HE WOULD HAVE MADE MONZON A ONE DIMENSIONAL FIGHTER I ALWAYS THOUGHT HAGLER WOULD ALWAYS BE AS TOUGH AS HIS COMPETITION AND HE WAS HUNGRY.
Ok