Enemy of my Enemy | Human-Covenant Alliance | Lore and Theory - ft. NotPipi
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- In this episode: We look at 7 times that Humans and the Covenant have teamed up, despite being mortal enemies.
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This is why I fell in love with Halo, the lore and the little stories.
Thanks for the mention and hopefully we can do other things in the future :)
Sgt Johnson being so funny that they retconned him from a background character that dies in at the end of the first game to one of the most important characters in Halo for the next two games is just ideal game design.
Johnson never dies.
I went many years without playing the first Halo game and it was surprising and hilarious how Johnson is a background character who always nonchalantly dies including in that famous ending to the game lol
"I just happen to have a key" lives rent free in my head since I was 14
My Halo dream game is one where you spend the entire game as an Elite/squad of Elites during the peak of the Covenant
And at the end they get murked by a Spartan that is vaguely implied to be the Master Chief
I have always thought of a flood horror game where you play as an elite on High Charity at Delta halo right about when...
Great Schism happens + flood infestation of high charity
You will go from surviving through high charity and then getting to a battlecruiser and helping clear it of brutes and then defend against the flood so the ship can then take off and help in the quarantine of high charity to make sure the flood can't get out
That 4-man group of jackals and marines was probably one of the greatest groups of unsung badasses in the Halo series and I didn't even understand that they died fighting together until I saw the animation earlier this year
I’ve been writing/brainstorming a “enemies to stubborn allies to friends” story for a while now, so this comes in handy for research purposes!
The Covenant coming back and fragging Atriox for "Desecrating the Holy Ring" would be a fun way to start Halo 7 come to think of it.
Or a full retconning of all 3 343i games
@@MaxiemumKarnage nah, only 5 and infinite. 4 is arguably the most ok of the 3.
Halo doesn't exist anymore under 343. They lost the mantle of responsibility.
Any games after infinate are not halo its in an alternative universe like the TV show.
@@talonmassakir9000 nope. Humans are forerunners. Halo 4 retconning that was probably the single-handedly worst retcon 343 made. All of it’s gotta go
@@iboildogsalive6535343 weren’t the ones who made the forerunners no longer human. Bungie decided that between the release of 2 and 3
Theres one small instance of this being the case which is only implied on the mission 343 guilty spark in halo combat evolved, where you may come across 2 marine corpses and 2 jackal corpses which may suggest that the two duos were making a final stand against the flood.
I honestly feel like what Johnson said to the arbiter when he said they’ll all die further affirmed what the grave mind tried to tell him earlier .
Also I never put it into perspective until now, the covenant really went to war with the sanghelli after the exchange of hand that’s crazy. Bad mistake they were basically fighting a war on 3 fronts 2 of which were working together and all three for a brief moment at the very end…wow what poetic justice jesus
Humans, elites, and the flood together finally putting an end to the covenant is such a great moment
That first sentence gave me chills immediately. Great work 00!
So cool that you’re giving NotPipi the credit and notoriety that he deserves. I’ve been watching his stuff for while and have been subscribed to him for a few months now. His stuff keeps getting better and better and I hope he continues with the Sgt. Mobuto story. Awesome video by the way!
How did Phylliss teaming up with Sanghelli housewives not get a mention?
That is a good one and almost forgot about I need to reread that book again
Ooh... been a while since I've read that one, although, I wonder, wasn't that something that had no human intervention? Sorry if I'm wrong, but even though I have the epubs for most books, I haven't read them in 3-4 years, and well, if indeed I'm remembering correctly, then we need to remember that he's specifically talking about human/covenant forces...
@@northwiebesick7136 Phillips (the "Phylliss" the main commenter referred to) was a human, so there is human involvement.
Dude I love the Mona Lisa story. Like it just really highlights how terrifying the flood are on a small scale. One interesting theory I’ve also seen about this is that Henry actually let her have the drop pod, as an elite likely wouldn’t fit in the pod designed exclusively for a human. It looks thinner that an elite and shorter too, meaning he likely would have been unable to fit.
Not only that, but he would have been executed on the spot, if not saved for later and cruelly experimented on / interrogated by UNSC that picked up his pod.
But they likely did fight to the death.
Probably not, though. Either they took too long and both died when the nuke hit, or Henry killed Lopez, took the pod,and either was found and killed by the Red Horse or ran out of air and died in his pod. Lopez is badass, but she's a normal human with only an out of ammo MA5B to use as a club against an elite.
Your intro got to me. It was always for my brothers and sisters.
inserectionists teaming up with the unsc is interesting
Man, that last one with the two marines and kig-yar... that animation was excellent and an absolute tear-jerker. Well done!
the San'Shyuum where Humanitys allys against the forerunners
Yep it's funny how humanities greatest past ally became the instrument of their almost complete annihilation
Hello Installation 00, it’s honestly great to see another video from you. I’ve seen the previous news video and I feel terrible that something like this has been happening to you since it’s totally unfair and unjustified. I’ve hopped onto Patreon and become a member of constructor for £1 a month, I know it’s not much but I hope every little bit adds up. Best wishes to you and your family and I hope u get through this soon. Take care kind sir and find peace in the domain.
It’s always cool to see the circumstances of two enemies joining forces for one reason or another.
Granted the reasons for why are obvious but it would’ve been nice to see some (not all) of the grunts (namely the ones being attacked by a pair of beserk brutes) and elites in the mission gravemind siding with Chief during the beginning of the schism and later during the flood attacks.
Like I said there are plenty of reasons why neither would do that especially with the ‘Demon’ and the alliance really wasn’t struck till the mission great journey and most elites still probably did not care for fighting alongside Chief during halo 3.
Even if the whole war was based off a lie, that lie has been circulating for decades hard to just get rid of that stigma in a few days.
It would be I threshing to explore more as the lore shows us the elites actually questioned why the humans had not been offered a place in the covenant. Out of all the races the elites grew to respect rhe humans at least even though they wiped out most of the unsc.
@@LMG1792 Very true, as to the elites at least, 'demon' was both an insult but also a form of respect and recognition.
the greater UNSC as a whole holding out so long against the covenant and the fact their starships are designed with a glass bridge on the ships exterior.
This episode is exactly why I’m hooked for life. Sure you’ve covered every topic, but your ability to keep us wanting more is unmatched. Brovo sir.
Part of what made me really dislike Halo 4 was that since the end of 3 I'd been hoping to see a Human-Postcovenant alliance taking down the warlords that would take advantage of the power/ideological vacuum and seize remaining artifacts, no longer hindered by the religious rules against modifying ancient tech and adapting human tech.
Instead we just got a "First Order" style "The covenant are back at full force using the same tactics and weapons exactly the same as before"
I like certain aspects of Halo 4, but I was definitely disappointed the same way you were upon release.
Enemies become friends. Friends become enemies. I call this phenomenon....frenemies. 😂
That animation was so moving. The more lore i absorb the more it will gain profound meaning. Every time the covenant team up with humanity it's a giant middle finger to the Prophets.
Do you think ONI already knows about the Spirit of Fire being on the Ark right now?
War of annihilation .
Master chief is very skilled, and the prophets didn’t want to acknowledge that, so instead they exiled the elites, I feel bad for em.
Since the end of the wa, the description of some armors in MCC and lore around, I hope to one day see in games both Spartans and Sangheilis training together at academies.
Your narration of this is stellar. It would not be out of place in a WW1 or WW2 documentary mate.
These events are also the reason I love Halo lore, arguably a bit more than the games themselves, because it's a brilliant universe that isn't too fantastical like Star Wars, over the top like Warhammer 40k, or too utopian like Star Trek. I like all three of these, but Halo has a special place for how it is despite having elements of other great sci fi.
Out of all the species of the Covenant, I got a special soft spot for the Sangheili and potentially in some contexts: the Kig-Yar benig allies with humans, as Not Pipi's excellent video demonstrated.
Just got here I'm sure it's gonna be great again tho
When I didn’t see the CE marine jackal alliance before all the newer events, I was going to mention it with the fan film. Thought you might have left it out due to lack of lore, but glad to see it rounded out this episode.
That was outstanding! RIP Marines and Kag-Yar!
What a fucking intro my guy. *CHILLS*
NotPipi's work is fantastic, I'm really looking forward to the Marvin Mobuto animation.
Also another great Video bro, Your channel always reminds me how deep Halo's lore is 👊
4:50 what'd that elite do to deserve a good smackeroo? 😂😂
I believe there was another instance where cavies and humans fought together. The story of Black Team comes to mind. This was a really good video! Keep up the ever outstanding content!
Lore ❤
Another temporary alliance I particularly like is the one that was made between Spartan black team and a group of covenant to save their own against a rampant monitor of a flood immunity research facility which also had a device that weaponised gravity of something for some reason.
Absolutely love the intro ❤ also someone needs to make a game about the Mona Lisa, that would be awesome
Really hope at some point we get post war humans working alongside more than just Elites and Engineers later down the line. Would love to see Hunters with UNSC armor and weapons.
Damn, I was really hoping the two Kig-Yar had a picture of themselves as well.
Will you be doing a Halo Outcasts spoiler talk?
“The enemy of my enemy is my friend”
- Captain Price
I will say that for World War 2, when you consider the talks between the US and Britain. Neither wanted to have to make nice with the Russians. None of the Western governments ultimately liked or adopted Communism. Few people actually liked Stalin, fewer still actually trusted him on the world stage. (Consider the amount of supplies the US actually could have sent on lend lease deals, but ultimately did not make those deals.) He wasn't antagonized because he wasn't being an aggressor initially before 1938/39 with the first half of the Winter War with Finland and the invasion of Poland to the east, and then the Continuation war in 1940 against Finland. But then when you have the biggest facist war machine plowing through you, you're a valuable ally. You're tying up the majority of that war machine. We'll help take the pressure off. Eventually... And the fact that the cold war basically started the second Berlin was sectioned off and hands weren't being shaken, demeanors towards each other quickly changed, tells the story of "Enemy of my enemy is my friend." more than words alone.
Thank you for continuing the fight!
I'd be interested in learning more about the lore leading up to and culminating in the battle at and destruction of Instalation 0 (The Greater Ark)
*I’m surprised you didn’t mention the Insurrectionists giving the Covenant information about the Spartans in the hopes that they would be destroyed.*
im not sure if its youtube compression or whatever but the framerate of your background gameplay is not good, aside from thatawesome video
Human nationalism probably exists as an ideology in the halo universe
This is it, baby. Hold me.
I do remember watching pipis vid awhile back.
The effort you put in to your videos is amazing love ur vids
Also number 7 is utterly amazing
22:36 Halo Wars Main theme intensifies!!
Patrick Rimmer?
I BARELY KNOW HER
So counter theory of the 2 marines and two jackles. 3 marines and 2 jackles. Who’s the third marine? The crazed marine. Reason it’s my head canon is that they did fend off the flood temporarily but the fact the human bodies weren’t made into combat forms means there wasn’t a single infection form left. Then how did he get further up? You may ask. Well, adrenaline pumping got him only so far. His mental state deteriorated rapidly and he couldn’t go any further. Which is where we find him.
I appreciate your Videos so much bro. Do you have a playlist of which halo songs you chose most? I always don’t find the song I want
What did that red elite do to deserve getting whacked in the face?
Question, how much of a strain did humanity put onto the covenant during the years of the war
10:25 the space birbs could have easily been humans best pals ♥ 🐔. Had to stop at 18:44. Im behind on the books.
4:52 not chill
That animation is top tier
Only a dead bug is a good bug
The statement about WW1 and WW2 is incorrect considering the communists in both wars had very different goals than the allies and it all eventually boiled down to the cold war. The germans and the entete both fought the red army in WW1 to stop the spread of communism and in WW2 the soviets only joined the allies because they couldnt fight germany alone.
Is the Not Pipi channel link broken?
Funny you use ww2 as an example of the enemy of my enemy is my friend as being rare. Really, the soviets and allies always were enemies, it was that exact principle that made them into our allies
sovieg union was a third party. other than that great video😂😂😂
Great video, though I disagree with how you characterized WWII. That war was absolutely about enemies becoming allies to fight a common enemy. The United States, Britain, France, China and others were all Imperialist capitalist countries. The Soviet Union and a large amount of the Partisan forces throughout the conflict were Socialist, Anarchist, Communist, and various other Left wing ideologies. The Allies and The Comintern were enemies and resumed fighting immediately after the war was over. Hell they fought a little even during the war if you want to include various resistance groups that were funded by or shared the views of the British or the Soviets.
There is one other alliance that I can think of. The Graphic Novel "Halo: Blood Line" where Forerunner sentinels took Spartan and Covenant troops and the remainder of the two forces teamed up for a rescue mission.
please for the love of all that is holy please use footage with higher fps please there's so many clips in this video where the footage is low fps its really jarring , 5:20 for example 8:00 14:00
PC gaming has broken your eyes, plus this is audio content
This, is why I hated everything post h3. Everything you worked towards was just thrown away. The allyship with the elites felt like a natural conclusion & was rewarding as a player but the reset button was hit just to fight the elites in a boring game, even though the elites redesigned looked like brutes, acted like brutes, fought like brutes…. They should have just used brutes.
Animation ruined by flamboyant flashing.
First 30 seconds of this video sounds like today's political environment in the United States
2:06 During WW2, the US Army and Wermacht fought together to defend a castle holding former French prisoners from SS troops headed there to execute them. Battle of Castle Itter!
Sorry but who are the SS troops?😅
Well, they were german as well. But the Wehrmacht wasn't the SS or a part of the SS and the SS wasn't part of the Wehrmacht. The Wehrmacht was the rank and file military while the SS were part of the national socialist workers party to intimidate/remove any opposition
@@creamlemontart to dumb it down, pretty much the Nazi Germany equivalent of the Marine Corp
@@creamlemontartA Unit who's allegiance is too their Fürehr first & Nation Second. Usually cooked-up with the Best Equipment, Logistics & Drugs.
Nothing like the Corps.
A song was even wrote about it
The opening narration was just perfect. Indescribably so.
I really enjoy seeing Humans and Covenant working side by side in any way. And I was waiting for the last one on the list, I was waiting for it, and I am so satisfied for it. That alliance is truly environmental story telling at its finest. And that animation was truly beautiful. NotPipi is amazing and I will go visit his channel and tell him you sent me.
The enemy of my enemy is not my friend, just an enemy that's taken a side bar.
perfect description of how oni treated the elites and the arbiter after the human-covenant war
Hmm... sidebar??? How lawyeristic sounding😂😂😂
The history of america lmao
"I have no enemies"
Was it Parangosky or Osman?
This is why i love halo. it gives you a since of realism that other space sifi games (for me at least) don't give you
Technically its not a Human Covenant alliance. Because in Halo 2 sure you had Jackles and Hunters and Grunts fighting with you in Halo 3 its just Elites.
They probably left some forces to guard the ring in case the covenant came back and somehow found a way to activate it. Also you can see the tension with just the Elites and humans so I doubt the Arbiters forces would risk a pointless conflict by having more races there having tensions going higher.
Canonically a lot of Jackals, Grunts and Hunters sided with the Elites but Bungie decided not to show them in game because they were worried about confusing players especially after all the stories of people reflexively shooting the allied hunters and grunts in Halo 2.
@@ArtyKibbles2190oooh that makes a lot of sense
They would have had grunts jackals and hunters as well but it wasn't put in the game because it could have been too confusing having you have both allied and friendly grunts jackals and hunters at the same time, so they only focused on the elites
the covenant didn't ally with the humans
the arbiter and the elites (most of them) was against them at the end of halo2
Probably parts of some of the other species too that weren’t brutes because we saw on installation 02 the Elites had some grunts and hunters helping them
I'd really like to see Henry again, he was such a chad.
How could you forget the intimate moment Johnson Nd that elite had when the Pillar of Autumn was about to explode smh
Every time I watch one of your videos i just wanna go pick up every Halo book I havent yet read (which is all but the first three 😅)
Sgt.Johnston: "Listen you don't like me and I sure as hell don't like you. But if we don't come together, mr. Mohawk here is going to activate this ring" 😎 4:10
They really dropped the ball on the storytelling in halo 5 and 6.
AI uprising that was almost retconned away and we got "the first order" of the Covenant instead.
And of course "The Endless", which will probably "end" within the next game...
The flood bring everyone together
Alternate history
Allied vs axis
Year 1942
One rouge covenant ship appears
Earth powers ally
Who wins
The covenant ship wins easily
I once read a fanfic about what if Mendicant Bias had revealed the truth about the "Great Journey" was false and also informed several high ranking san shyuum,sangheili,jiralhanae,kig yar,unggoy,yanme,lekgolo and in return almost half the covenant breaks off calling themselves the Seperatist Alliance and allie with the UNSC early in the war.
Last light is such an underrated book Fred shines like he was always meant to do.
Though the banished had small amount of humans in their ranks
Gorian just wanted a good fight lol
What about black team?
There's even a battle at the end of world war II were a bunch of wehrmact soldiers that separated from the Nazi party including a very popular Commander that helped the nazi invasion of Normandy .
The story kind of goes similar to this (wendigoon has a video on it too) basically there was a bunch of French celebrities that were held up inside of a prison and there was only a few Nazi guards on the outside defending it ,
Then an Austrian resistance group which was formed partially from the said wehrmacht soldiers that I was talking about including the commander found the prison and decided to hold place with an 88 mm gun before sending one of their members to go flag down any allied force that is American to be able to help them defend this Castle which they found a tank commander inside of one Sherman with a small group of American soldiers
When they got back to the castle de set up defenses started smoking cigars and drinking wine and Jager together before a Nazi assault group attempted to push back on the castle
If I remember correctly the nazis failed but did do decent amount of damage to the infantry defending the castle killing at least four people and injuring six severely I think .
As I said before wendigoon did a video on this and the reason why I mentioned him as the source is because he did the best retelling of the story I could find
This to me was the greatest example of people coming together in history despite their differences , and part of the reason why it happened is because Hitler I basically disappeared for a little bit and Berlin was being taken over and since it was the end of the war the soldiers in that side of the Fairmont army decided to fall out especially since they were left to fight against Russia or America alone (cause I can't remember ATM) 😂
I hope you all have a good day good luck to you all and may you all find peace in your domains
It's funny bc wehrmacht soldiers and u.s marined as well as Austriana and a group of French celebrities all work together to hold off a castle against a decently sized Nazi assault group
WAIT! You’re telling me I have missed this one detail for 20 YEARS! I need to play Halo CE again
Having reached the point where I've read all of the books and comics feels like a reward cause now anytime I watch a lore video I recognize it
From someone who has been to war, that intro was perfect.
Lasky summed it up well in Halo 4 I think
I always love story time
BROKEN PIPI LINK
I'd never take orders from a chick 💯