It's inevitable that, given the expanse of the human civilization on the Halo universe, some dude in a backwater planet is still playing some 20th century games in a Game Cube or something
They really did make old consoles to last that long so I wouldnt be surprised if a game cube survives a glassing lol as theres a story of one getting hit by a bomb and still working
To be fair that is happening today in 2nd and 3rd world countries... Like 80% of my viewers found my channel though me playing to us old games but them their current games because they can still run on their systems and can easly be gotten.
I can picture the sheer terror and confusion of the New Mombasa residents as they were told for years that the war was going amazing then suddenly Reach Falls and you see emergency evacuation shuttles for the entire planet and then just when you think its going to get better you look up in the morning to see explosions in the sky as parts of UNSC ships come crashing down from orbit and through the clouds a covenant cruiser just shows up. Man the Halo universe is so cool, its both Utopian and Dystopian at the same time.
Utopias can't exist without putting the proverbial dystopian boot on the neck of some poor worker and strip mining a far off land's resources so Cayden and Jennifer can have their free health care and matcha latte's...
I would love a horror live action Adaption Of *The Monalisa* or a movie which follows a survivor during the flood invasion of Earth, telling the story of how they make their escape out of Voi
Imagine how they reacted when Cortana went nuts and all AI started chanting about submitting to Cortana and then hundreds of ships start crashing down from space and potentially blowing up cities and blasting large holes into Earths surface like dinosaur mass extinction levels astroids.
@@PackHunter117 Imagine the poor residents of Malta or Athens when a orbital defense platform explodes and falls down to earth and seeing you're city being blown up.
Imagine how shocked civillians must have been on Reach and Earth when the covenant invaded given all the ONI propaganda they were fed about the state of the war.
If I remember right, the humans on Reach largely wouldn't have even known there was a war to begin with. Could be wrong on that though, I'm a bit fuzzy.
It’s kinda uncanny to think that when people think of cancer they probably think more about the constellation or the Latin word for crab than they do the disease.
Thats because you are thinking with your mind in the 21st century not in the 25th century. Of course they wouldnt care about it more than a common cold by then since its been so long that medicine has advanced so much its trivial now.
It's the same reason why now like the common cold. Back then. It was extremely dangerous if you caught it as the high morality rate. Now? Eh, take antibiotics & other medications to get it over in few days.
I think the ad "forever we fight," does a very good job giving us a small glimpse of what civilian life was like throughout humanity's history, sheep herders, civilians huddled in wartime, rescue workers saving people, space explorers making the first jump for mankind, from soil to the stars, I hope we get more ads like it.
If anti-grav plating is so common as to be part of playground equipment then try to imagine how comfortable beds are, it would be amazing to float a few centimeters above the bed in complete comfort and have absolutely security during rough transits since the bed can keep you isolated from the jostling and bumping.... Damn it, I want an antigravity bed now.
I’m on Reach currently. I couldn’t settle on the outer worlds because most of my family still lives on Earth and Reach is close enough and it’s cheaper.
I'd love a game that details a Covenant attack from a civilian's perspective. I really want to see just how terrifying it really was for the average person.
Something like odst but from an Cops perspective. On the one hand trying your damnest to keep everything calm and all in control while whitnessing how the covenant vibes the floor wirh the unsc.
Go on a drive go shopping like in a mall go eat at a restaurant and just imagine it with more advanced tech imagine an orbital elevator in the sky imagine ships leaving for another planet imagine a covenant ship emerging from slip space above you and do research on how civilians lived in ww2 that’s how I immerse myself even tho it sounds weird and no I don’t imagine covenant ship in the sky 24/7 💀
I'm not sure your picture of civilian life on an inner colony was quite accurate. For instance, Sgt Johnson's grandma (?) passed away in a nursing home, and while yes, the room automatically chilled to preserve her body, it's implied/stated that she was there alone for days without being taken care of.
I think that was in Contact Harvest and he got particularly upset with a staff member because a notification about her death had not been sent out to him
From this. If you take say a middle class person from say dothan Alabama and dropped them in 2542 on an outer colony. There way of life wouldn’t change all to much other the TWR stuff, and the existential dread that they are no longer in 2023 or on earth. Though if you put someone from the upper (could be from anywhere) in that same year but in it on a inner colony their way of life would drastically change, to the point I don’t think that dread the other person got would affect them at all. It’s almost comical that what we consider first world living today would be considered 3rd world in 500 years. Such is the way of progress.
It always struck me as odd when humanity was on the brink of extinction and had basically no hope of winning the war without some divine intervention, yet so many marines and soldiers you see on the battlefield will have such high morale and will confidently charge into battle till their last breath without a single drop of hesitation or self-doubt, almost like they were brainwashed to do so. Of course, this is just creative writing, but after watching this video, I can see a very good in-universe explanation for this.
If I know I’m gonna get annihilated by an enemy far superior to me why not have a good laugh and joke around before I go. If I live I can deal with the trauma afterwards
Getting brutally torn apart, the medical tech is advanced enough that you can return to full duty a few months after being a quadruple amputee & losing half your internal organs. So non-lethal injuries are a lot less significant in the long run of your life. Additionally, your average person's 1st World living on Earth in 2023 is worse than the outer-colonies life, so quality of life for everybody has gone way up. The people have better lives back home, so they're much more eager to defend those lives. Also they probably have some kind of fancy tech that mitigates rain while in the field, which I can say from firsthand experience: you don't wanna be in the field when it's pouring rain outside.
10:14 - Not gonna lie, that scene where John wakes up and the camera pans to all the empty beds is hella deep like it's showing the human cost of the Spartan II program that literally like 90% of candidates didn't survive this far like idk... Good story telling and cinematography without using words that's the deepest pan I've ever seen like remember Reach 🥺😤🙏🏾
We know it wasn't 90% who died, out of the 75 Spartan-II's who received augmentation, 33 survived. So it's closer to 50% survival rate. Still, that's terrifying odds, especially for a 14 year old. Imagine there being a cosmic coin toss on whether or not you're going to wake up the next time you fall asleep.
Nice one 00 I always wanted you to cover this topic because we’ve had such a narrow view of civilian life from a military perspective so seeing it discussed separately is interesting
Probably similar to any other 1st World military when not in combat or any field training environment, just with better technology. 50 Years ago when Marines were in Okinawa getting trained to go to Vietnam, they couldn't easily go call home; and when they were off work in-garrison, they probably just worked out, played cards, read, or played sports with their friends (in addition to drinking ofc). Present day, I can make a simple phone call to my mom all the way back in America at any time I want. Off work I can still hit the gym, but I also have access to every movie, TV show, and video game at my fingertips. I can go anywhere on the island and use a translator app if I run into the language barrier. If I don't have enough Yen I can just tap/swipe my credit card. So while my predecessors were still drinking with their bros and hanging out on the weekends. the technology available to present-day Marines makes it much easier for us to communicate, learn, and keep ourselves entertained when there's nothing else going on.
It is indeed a fascinating contrast between the status of the Inner colonies vs Outer colonies, and as shows how technology advance the UNSC/UEG is when not focusing on the ground weapon & vehicle aesthetics. I'm curious to see what the 2nd part will be.
7:22 Hold up that is fact though(part of it at least) Like the USAF had hand biometric readers back during the development of the F-117 night hawk stuff that was not common till smart phones in the 2010s and are just now "outdated"... The internet first came online in 1969 most people did not get it till the 2000s... Landwarrior aka persoanal AR has been in on and off field testing since the 1980s and the Meta Quest 3 might be the start of widespread civilain use... Spy satlites are easly 50 years ahead of what ever Nasa is doing as the US gov admitted when leading NASA one... and that's stuff we know imagine the stuff we don't and the stuff of black ops.
We've had biometrics in a lot of technology prior to smartphones as well. My school back in the late noughties/early 10s introduced thumb-scanners for our lunch money and it was seen as a pretty trivial thing. The tech has been around for a long time and widely available for quite a while, its just not seen widespread usage because frankly most applications for it don't require such a level of security, even something like your phone could easily work with just a four-digit code so long as you keep a hold of it. As for the Internet, what we had back in 69 and up to the 90s was pretty much experimental and in use by large educational/research institutes, computers were somewhat a rarity outside of offices so we didn't really have a need for the Internet. Once home PCs became very common, the Internet took off. AR and VR have definitely been in testing since the 80s but I won't agree that Meta Quest 3 is the "start of widespread civilian usage". The two technologies are pretty closely tied in nature and development of one does enhance development of the other. AR has been available in the form of mobile phone apps for some time, but like the biometrics there hasn't really been a good reason to widespread use it, perhaps like the Internet what we're really waiting on is another technology to make it useful. As for VR, I would point you to Nintendo's Virtual Boy, sold in the 90s as a common game console, but the tech sucked at the time and it was too heavy to be comfortable so it sold poorly, but the tech was definitely there and just needed some time to adjust. There's definitely time between technology being adopted by military, research/education, and office use, and it being available to average consumers for personal use, but its definitely nowhere near the 50 years people often talk about, and usually it doesn't hit average consumer use because there isn't a real NEED for it yet. In terms of Halo lore, things like robotic prosthetics or flash-cloned organs will definitely see much greater use in the military before its pushed to average consumers, but that would be very much for the same reason that aesthetic surgeries in the real world were adopted by military in the wake of WW2 before being brought to the average civilian; there was a real need for it in military scenarios to fix the severe scars and disfigurements left by war.
@@cyqry Good points but I mean from first use by the US Government to widespread normalcy... Which like you said it took from like 1975 to being gernous 2013 with the iPhone 5s to be beyond normal yes the bank's my Mom worked had thumb scanners in the late '90s-early '00s but that was not normal and very much sci-fi to most people... which I got my thumb scanner door koobs on amazon for $100 each in the mid 2010s and most phones had one.... Very true but most stuff that is black ops under the US gov be that way... I said AR which yes you can buy a car for around $40k with a HUD and even a day to night thing which are in every comercal and milltary plane but they are not to normalcy like in Halo or Shadowrun... Which the Quest 2 made for VR as it sells better then the current Xboxes and if thye quest 3 does the same numbers it would have done it for AR which Nintndeo could not do with the Virtal boy or the 3DS but did better with Pokemon go as it has "sold" twice as well as the Quest 3. Which again I was talking about the point from black ops use to normalcy... Which note in all those exemples it was like 50 years from point to point although your right but I would counter with 8k TVs no one needs one unless you like space for windows but you can get one for $5k anytime from best buy US... So yeah it can happen.
Neuralink astounds and terrifies me, because it's basically Halo sci-fi coming to real life fruition. Slowly yet steadily, it seems like we'll definitely get there.
Thats what i love about halo. The tech is advanced but not that extreme like other scifi universes. Except KI's, fusion Reactors and slipspace travel everything seems possible in the coming few decades.
@@uwesca6263I actually think Halo somewhat underestimates the speed of technology as well but I like how they kept it realistic and slow it feels more immersive
I find it kind of interesting that you mention Taxation/Exploitation without Representation in regards to the outer colonies and that is generally seen in lore as one of the biggest reasons for the Insurrectionist movements... when applied to our real world, the United States was a nation that formed pretty much under the same conditions; excessive taxation and resource/labour exploitation by a much more powerful central government so far away that you probably don't even notice their existence outside of what they take from you. And yet in the games, the Insurrection is seen as the "bad guys" while in the real world the people who fought in the War of Independence were seen as "freedom fighters" and overall doing a good thing. Just an interesting point on perspective there.
I mean, if you're an American, sure. If you're British (or descended from Loyalists who fled to Canada after refusing the "join or die" ultimatum), you probably see Americans going to war over the excess of taxation at something like 10% of colonial GDP as a bit of a historical irony. In that way the halo narrative EU does the moral ambiguity of the conflict between the central earth government and the insurrectionists in a fairly realistic way. Sure, the central government has good reason to complain about the terrorism ... but the colonies do also have good reason to complain about the UEG (and ONI in particular) being oppressive dicks who either ignored or violently suppressed every peaceful attempt at self-determination. The Expanse also does that similarly well with the Belt colonies being treated as second-class humans not just because they're distant, but because once people start having babies who grow up in microgravity, they're basically never going to be able cope with living in planetary gravity. Yeah, they do some stuff that's Not OK, but that came after some pretty significant abuses by the Inners. If we do make it to colonizing the solar system rather than wiping ourselves out too soon, I rather fear those authors are going to turn out to have been nearly prophetic.
This is probably because of the hindsight of the Covenant threat. Its a bad look for the insurrectionist to be dividing humanity when we are facing extinction. It would be like if the Americans revolted while being invaded by France or Spain.
I think you could make a very spirited argument that the Independence fighters in the Revolutionary war were not the good guys. Westward expansion, slavery, the entrenchment of a landowning nobility. That plus the straight up betrayal of an empire that had just fought the 7 years war against the French due to Washington having an itchy trigger finger (on this one I'm slightly joking but it all adds up). In reality the new taxes were not particularly bad and the US Congress brought in worse ones after independence anyway (whisky rebellion).
@@bjiornbjiorn Touche. Regarding their other actions, absolutely they were terrible, I was more referring to simply fighting against a corrupt empire that takes advantage of you. On that note, I'm not caught up on Insurrectionist lore but I don't recall them actually doing that much wrong beyond the mention in Reach of them knocking out comms relays to steal ships or them having contraband weapons to protect their homes.
@@cyqry I'll take any excuse to be contrarian. Regarding the Insurrection the important point is that there were lots of different and unconnected cells and factions. The crime you hear most about regarding the innies is probably piracy, of ships and cargo: the most audacious of these was an attempt to steal the newly completed UNSC INFINITY. In terms of straight up atrocities, there was the nuclear bombing of an arcology on Haven in 2511 that killed 2 million civilians and wounded a further 8.3 million.
8:22 Good point fronttline US milltary is roughly 20 years infront of civilian tech like look at the F-35 Multirole aircraft, Ford class super aircraft carriers, Land Warrior with hololens or 20 years behind boots, undergarments kinda just the uncool stuff.
Honestly, I want a story in the Halo universe that follows someone from the outer colonies. Preferably set before the Human-Covenant war. If i ever get the want to actually write a story again, i think i'll try to make one.
This has given me a very great insight and ideas for so many stories and expansions of Halo as a sci fi univese that I don't know where to begin. The Expanse is the closest example of a similarity to how the Inner Colonies and Outer Colonies are. I'd love some expansions into other genres of stories that could explore this. Maybe a Deus Ex like Oni game?
Inner colony vs. outer colony seems similar to major city vs. rural arias in the USA. I think it's about 33% of Oregon who want to join their nabor state because of this divide. Edit to correct state. Should be right state now.
Oh by the way Spartans are above teir 1 operators who have that class because they cost millions of dollors to feild and upkeep so spartans with suits that cost as much as a space frigate and are impossibly well trained and upkeep... I would think to field a spartan current year would be in the billions maybe to feild a spartan team would cost as much as a Super carrier battle group... Which ODSTs are somewhere between Teir 3 USarmy airborne and Teir 2 "Normal" Navy seals.... Where as UNSC Marines are on par with US army and UNSC Army are on par with US marines budget wise but I'm not to sure... So yeah teir 1 operators walk around in $10k worth of kit and have the lastest 30 years ahead tools if not more... Now imagine what spartans are like.
Excellent video. Puts the idea that halo is not advanced to rest. Although, I do believe the military technology is a little primitive for all their advancement. Certainly better than what we have today, but strangely unadvanced for what you would expect.
In my headcannon, marine and ODST suits function as low powered exo suits that function like the ones from advanced warfare. And their armor plates are almost impervious to low caliber projectile weapons.
My favorite thing about halo is how the lord could have stayed contained to the games but expanded to be its own massive, intricate, wholly unique universe. Honestly amazing and it’s my favorite thing for any fictional franchise
I know this was probably an oversight. But the thing I find it most unbelievable is that anybody in the Halo universe die of old age. Flash grown organs where a common technology even before the human covenant war. And the very same technology could be used to replace any part of the body that got too old. Even neurons, in the brain. So I find it very hard to believe that we didn't meet any people born in the... well mid to late 21º century, the way things are moving in the real world. We're expecting this type of biological immortality over the next few decades.
100 to 150 years is what we're looking at if you're born today and you're fabulously wealthy. Otherwise. 60/70 average awaits until the tech becomes available and cheap.
@@damenwhelan3236 Nope, this is a winning political issue and a necessity due to our crashing birth rates. Also It's far more profitable for the pharmaceutical companies since life extension grants you a captive audience. An eternal captive audience. Not to mention for every year you live the technology improves.
Yeah this is an issue I also find a lot when it comes to most future Sci-fi. Most writers really don't consider the probability of practical immortality/eternal youth in the next few decades let alone centuries. For older Sci-fi (19th and early 20th centuries), that can be somewhat excused as it was thought we'd be multi-planetary centuries before such advances in biotech. But in more modern Sci-Fi, it is something that is really undervalued.
@@NovoCognition Yes and it's a question both in real life and in fiction that I find somewhat preplexing. The moment we get flash cloning of organs and the ability to implant younger body parts once the old ones get too old, why do most people still act like dying of old age is a guarantee.
@@damenwhelan3236 that's the current age we get in Italy without medical assistance and even smoking. I'll live till 70-75 years old because I smoke. While many others here lives till 90. Women here lives even to 100 to 110 years old if lucky. My grand grandmother reached 105 years and I had the lucky of meet her. She even had all her original teeth. Living till 150 years old here in Italy would looks like a small and humble achievement. And we aren't the only ones who reach those ages in the world. And, another point, all of this only with physical activity and a good diet. Healthcare helps but the old generations had very less coverage respect us today. Sure is true that today Italian medicine is one of the more advanced in the world, second healthcare system in the world, first to produce hand prostetics, vanguard in the production of medicines, transplants of organs or even limbs. But that is just a recent achievement. For the previous 50 years we lived in a country reduced to ashes by the ww2. And we had to rebuild it. So that's takes out the healthcare addition to the living conditions. Still, we have people that have really long lives. Without high tech.
also i think education in the core worlds wouldnt be that good. it would be pretty specialized for "marketable" skills. Somehow the UEG doesnt strike me as the kind of goverment that wants its people to know a lot about the world. Also id guess ONI made sure you have... approved opinoins after finishing school. Oni is clever, they will make sure. Also im not sure why you assume you wont be exploited in the inner colonies. Like, the asshats that take advantage of the outer colonies wont hesitate to take advantage of you.
It’s always so interesting to hear about the average person in an extraordinary setting. A slice of life that may or may not include death and destruction, or a regular office job.
Concerning the flood, that would be the UNSC and ONI who would know about this with a few civilians do who know but are dismissed as conspiracy theorists or are forcibly disappeared. Knowledge concerning the Forerunners would be limited to ONI and some select UNSC staff with knowledge concerning the matter being harshly suppressed.
In the Halo universe, humanity seems to be in a fairly dystopian place. I see it as hard to be happy. My view is probably coloured by the militarised lens of the games and books so I'm excited to see this video. I'm prepared to learn a ton as one tends to do on this channel :) Edit as I finish: so it seems it really depends on where you live. Life is great it you're rich or live in the inner colonies. Meanwhile life in the outer colonies is basically like living in present day America
2:55 I haven't seen the full trailer in a while so when I was laying down and watching this scene while my phone was to the left of me. I blinked just as I saw chiefs helmet so i was surprised to just end up in a battlefield.
I think a deeper insight into civilian life is from the technology we don't see. On the surface it looks like a standard post scarcity civilisation, but we don't see a lot of things we'd assume such a culture would have. Where are the androids? Where are the post-humans outside the spartan programme? Where is the power armour outside of the Spartan programme? And sure, in the game it's an artistic choice, but in universe there seems to be a level of creative sterility, with the logical implication that it woudl have to be enforced. And that leads to some very dark specilation about how many engineers, artists, and scientists ONI is killing each year to stop technology they don't like from being developed. And also how many colonists died because of that enforced creative sterility prevented the development and wide spread availability of technology needed to fight the covenant. And then you have the question of why the advantages of the core-worlds aren't available to the outer colonies. The tech level they describe is pertty damn close to von-neuman tech, albeit possibly of the 'clanking replicator' variety. So why is it that 'most produce is taken by earth' as opposed to 'most is collected by earth as the colonists are producing more than they could ever need, while working one day a week'? It seems less like a technical limitation, and more a political decision. "Keep the oujters poor and ensure they rebell in order to justify our military industrial complex." There seems to be a level of darkness at the heart of the human government that's pretty horrifying.
Exactly, finally somebody gets it. I mean with the neural implants, AIs and a large percentage of the population being artists, innovators and creators, and even if all of these things were recent developments their society should still be more advanced! ....... Unless there were other forces (ONI) and factors (Geas) that counteracted said advancements.
Would SO love to see any kind of spinoff flood horror game, like fighting the flood from a marine/odst perspective, or even trying to get off-planet during a flood or covenant invasion with only a handgun and some ammo as a regular ass civilian.
Regarding burial space in the colonies: There would almost certainly be cheap and abundant places to bury the dead outside of Earth and the sol system. Earth has a population of 10 billion circa 2552 whereas Reach, The most populous colony outside of Earth, hasn’t even reached a billion. Many outer colonies have populations as low as 3 million for the whole planet. There is no shortage of space, if anything earthlings might move to the colonies for cheaper real estate and bigger homes.
7:48 Correct! If we got fancy high tech power armor and other cool sci-fi stuff, I *guarantee* you that one of my Lcpls would try to be cool and take moto selfies in his tech gear & post it on social media. Not to mention that the Army would get it first and then we'd get it after it's been obsolete for a few years - a decade :(
Can someone tell me what the song used at 4:18 is I have been looking for it for the past week and a bit now and I can't seem to find it anywhere, was fairly certain it was part of Halo 3 ODST's soundtrack but when looking it up it's not there.. Any help would be appreciated on that front cheers.
With cybernetics and flash cloning being as easy and prevalent as they are, *why aren't we seeing more semi-augmented individuals?* For example, somebody could get the Adam Jensen treatment with superior-to-organic robotic limbs, enhanced cybernetic eyes, neural enhancements (potentially with dumb AI like CASIE) etc. Or perhaps they could have their heart & lungs swapped with genetically modified, more robust & heavy duty clones of their own. I'm not saying that isn't anywhere withing Halo, I'm sure there may be some DXHR/CP2077 like scenarios on Earth or something, but why isn't it as common in the USNC or ONI? Even without the SPARTANs, ONI still should've had some kind of augmented field agents - given how readily available flash-cloning and cybernetics are. I imagine ONI could have a Men-in-Black unit, where they feature a whole host of augs without going crazy and making SPARTANs or anything; neural enhancements for better reflexes, bone reinforcements (without the growth stimulation as these agents must blend in with normal humans), neural implants with added data storage and brain processing + dumb AI for assistance, fully mechanical/synthetic heart -or- flash-cloned heart of the agent but genetically modified to pump harder & more efficiently, fully synthetic lungs -or- flash-cloned lungs genetically modified for increased respiration per breath, addition synthetic/genemodded clone organs transplanted to replace original ones, cybernetic eye replacement or retinal implant, either surgical repositioning of tendons + muscular enhancement -or- amputation of limbs and replacement with stronger & faster robotic limbs (aesthetically disguised to look like normal organic limbs) etc. Basically making a normal-human-sized cyborg, a ghetto-SPARTAN if you will, to look normal but be vastly superior to human physiology in every way.
Military industrial complex doesn't refer to conspiratorial views of government R&D, it just means the industry of developing for the military. It *is* more advanced than civilian industries both because it's incredibly well-funded, and because it uses a top-down design cycle that allows for vigorous testing and rewards reliable contractors with long term payouts. Even in the most advanced civilian industries such as the medical industry, ideas usually come from startups, and the lucky ones are bought out by major pharmaceutical corporations, creating a high risk environment where only certain ideas float from the bottom up while potentially groundbreaking ones could go ignored for years. In the military industrial complex a problem is identified at the branch level and contractors submit their solutions through sometimes outlandishly rigorous testing procedures, to the extent that often no contractor wins because none of their products are reliable enough to replace what's currently in service. This ensures that only the most exceptional technologies receive funding. The ones that win this competition are rewarded handsomely and will be called on again in the future to create another solution. Instead of individual ideas floating to the top, contractors that have proven themselves time and time again rise to power and form long-lasting, mutually beneficial relationships with the military to ensure they will have the resources to continue developing for them. These often manifest in the way of conflicts of interest, defending important industry leaders, and other forms of corruption. The field -tested technologies then eventually trickle their way down into the civilian market. In the real world, Lockheed Martin is the bona fide king of the military industrial complex, but in the Halo universe, that's Misriah Armories, which is why almost every piece of UNSC equipment is developed by them. Suffice to say, the Halo universe has the exact same disconnect between military and civilian industries as the real world
23:11 what about mental health? I bet they can identify and remove any genetic factors that might be behind them. Then pharmaceutical medicine has probably advanced to the point where they cancel out the effects of environmental stressors. That's truly fascinating to think about imo
I've always been interested what human civilian society was like during the war, but we don't really get much on that front which is a shame. I feel like the lore on what average people know about the war is a bit funky. Now I haven't kept up with a lot of recent Halo stuff post like 2011, and I may be misremembering, but the way that everything is mostly hidden to the civilian populace seems like it would be hard to manage towards the middle/end of the war. Sure early on it would be easy to conceal the true scale from some rando guy living on a secure planet, but by the time all the Outer Colonies are husks and the Covenant are starting to take Inner ones then how would that not affect things on their planets? The loss of industry and materials from the Outers would have to have an effect, and then wouldn't stuff like war time production having to be ramped up massively and rationing have to be noticeable too? I don't find it likely that this was all perfectly hidden by ONI or whatever until the Covenant start showing up to Earth and shit. I also wondered what it would be like to be a civilian and be in a situation like this. Aliens are fighting humanity, you're losing quite badly and will probably be driven close to extinction (with the only thing keeping humanity alive that they're so scattered they can't possibly all be hunted down), but given that the war took place over 27 years it doesn't happen immediately but is a slow, grinding death that you just gotta sit there and take. It must be so strange to be living and knowing you are probably gonna be the last generation of the human race.
Much like my desire to explore the Star Wars Universe, I greatly desire to explore the human empire of Halo. Pre Covenant, obviously. Also alternate scenarios where humans successfully colonize non-Flood infested Forerunner installations like the Rings and the Ark. Gods there are so many stories to be told, so many places to explore, so many interesting things.
Loved that piece, finally someone bringing some light on the "normal" life in the halo universe. Also interesting to see that you are supporting tax dodging innies.
Conspiracy theorists often say that the government or military(military industrial complex) has access to technology 50 years more advanced than civilians. I think this is only partly true. Think back to 50 years ago. The most powerful "computer" or computer systems, even "computer farms" back then is well within the range of computational power available to civilians today
Hey, with respect, the perspective of "Brutal and short" lives of non agrarian ancient (and modern) peoples doesn't really seem to bare out in the evidence. For example, in Italy, ten thousand year old remains of a seventeen year old were found. Nick named Romito, his skeleton demonstrated signs of dwarfism and bad oral disease. Despite this, by merit of his age, it's clear his social group cared for him, gave him food and appeared to honor him with a distinguished burial. Not only did ancient humans have complicated burial customs and clear signs of religious activity, there is also strong evidence to suggest they cared for people who "couldn't pull their own weight" as you described. It's a nit pick, and I don't think it's a huge deal, it's just a common perspective of the ancient world that I think really needs to change so we can understand our history and ourselves better. Cheers mate, have a rad day!
Then there is Gobekli Teppe, a city at least 5000 years older than the Sumerian civilization ...built before agriculture......before the "cradle of civilization " as recorded as the beginning of modern humanity...wrongly...by historians. Humanity was well civilized and organized long before the flood and the Sumerian culture that followed thousands of years after.
It more like the military has technology 50 year to expensive then the civilian market, at one point drones were cutting edge technology that you could only find in either the USA military and the USSR military, Now we hand them out as cheap gifts to kids. It not hat civilians don't have that technology but that the number of civilians that can afford it is so low and the need to specific that its none existent. For example the MJOLNIR armor is to expensive to be found outside of the UNSC military, but by the 2600s it wouldn't be uncommon for the version of SWAT or private security to be wearing something equivalent.
While yeah the idea my own home is constantly studying me is kind of creepy, the fact it’s doing that to keep me healthy, a little intrusiveness doesn’t seem all that bad.
Eh, let’s be real it’s a bit much. There a better balance when it comes to smart homes. I also don’t like the idea of my joke having the risk of being hacked. Ironically enough minus space travel mist things described in this video are already a reality in the beginning stages.
@@Ser_Matticusin real life, there is nothing smart about a smart home. It's just means it's tracking you and sending data to the internet. There is little to no benefit.
civilian companies with military contracts, the people who request more spenditure on the the goods those companies make, and the people who write the checks from tax dollars ARE THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX THAT EISENHOWER TALKED ABOUT. Why do you need a shadow group of rich people who control everything to exist when there is a very visible group of rich people who control everything to concentrate attention on??
There must be so much good literary fiction in the UNSC. People divorcing and rediscovering life at 89, getting into arguments with your children who are your age, etc.
Great video and overview. The only thing I have to fix is the military aspect, technology and medical wise the status would be the same or close enough to not know the difference. However the 2 fields that would be vastly different is aircraft which would be more the Naval section as they would be vastly farther ahead with computers, AI, speed and power production just like today a Naval Aircraft carrier has 15 years of power on board and can sustain itself where nothing else can. Same would go for civilians flying commercial vs the fast and fighter craft of the UNSC. This would not be a big notice for 99% of people anyway as transport is stupid fast in Halo vs today. The other would be weapons and tech like thermals, night vision and such being someone who has 20 years of field experience working with this the civilian models of night vision and thermals as well as scopes are far behind what we use and cost such a Astronomican amount to get close that people are not buying them. Even the thermals in mercedes and such today are vastly behind the military version as we need to see kilometers and civilians need to see 200 meters at most on the road. Also the guns we use are not the same as the civilian versions and although some are better they are only made to sell to military contracts and if they don't get picked up then they make a civilian version to recuperate losses in R&D. Even the Sig Spear civilian model is far inferior to the Military model with the hybrid ammo that's high pressure.
I'd love to see a side story of a post-Covenant world with dual colonies of Sangheili and humans. Not necessarily singing kumbayah together, but gradually, grudgingly earning each others' respect as mostly-civil competitors. Say on opposite continents
The US military is where everyone points at and the tech in development is around 5 to 10 years more advanced. But these are still in development for a reason. Your average soldier does have some equipment that is unavailable to civilians . But it's not generations ahead of anything civilians could develop. Most soldiers use standard issue equipment that while superior to what many other countries use are not all that much more advanced compared to the society that supports the military use on a daily. The military first devloped GPS in the early 90's so advanced yes compared to a country that doesn't have a gps system. Reverse engineered Alien technology ? No.
Out of any universe Halo would be the most dystopian... 500 years later the United Nations are still a thing, the globalists are still trying to make me pay taxes.
Very true Halo setting is bleak even before the genocidal/omnicidal campaign of the Covenant. The Spartan programs prior to the IVs alone demonstrate this.
I love all of your videos, but have you done one talking in more detail about AI in the setting? I know a little bit about it but I’d love to see what you could expand upon.
14:39 If I lived in the Halo universe like this I would more concerned with dealing with space travel with my money of should I treat the civilian space shuttle like a bus/Uber or like a Jumbo Jet.
I finally was able to slow it down, and when you say "MJOLNIR Powered Assault Armor" I was hearing (initially) "Milly powder salt armor". That's about the only thing you say really fast and I was confused for awhile as to what the devil you were saying. 😀
I’m so confused in the “Thursday War” cheif Mendez and the Spartans he’s with are completely dumbfounded but the building of the forerunners being able to change layout to suit the needs of the inhabitants changing floorplan furniture Ect saying something like nothing they have is even close to doing that. As well as in “Mortal Dictada” Margaret parengaski was retiring at 92 stating that no one lives to be her age and that it’s amazing that someone lives that long.
It's inevitable that, given the expanse of the human civilization on the Halo universe, some dude in a backwater planet is still playing some 20th century games in a Game Cube or something
They really did make old consoles to last that long so I wouldnt be surprised if a game cube survives a glassing lol as theres a story of one getting hit by a bomb and still working
@@masterchiefblank4885 I'd imagine someone terraforming Reach after the war and going: "Hey, this SNES still works! Neat, I'll keep it"
@@masterchiefblank4885whaaaaat, my gamecube took a 5 inch fall when my cat dropped when i was a kid, and it got bricked lmaooooo
To be fair that is happening today in 2nd and 3rd world countries... Like 80% of my viewers found my channel though me playing to us old games but them their current games because they can still run on their systems and can easly be gotten.
@@EdHandal Gameboys on the other hand...
I can picture the sheer terror and confusion of the New Mombasa residents as they were told for years that the war was going amazing then suddenly Reach Falls and you see emergency evacuation shuttles for the entire planet and then just when you think its going to get better you look up in the morning to see explosions in the sky as parts of UNSC ships come crashing down from orbit and through the clouds a covenant cruiser just shows up.
Man the Halo universe is so cool, its both Utopian and Dystopian at the same time.
We see a bit of that in Sadie's story. Mass panic.
Utopias can't exist without putting the proverbial dystopian boot on the neck of some poor worker and strip mining a far off land's resources so Cayden and Jennifer can have their free health care and matcha latte's...
I would love a horror live action Adaption Of *The Monalisa* or a movie which follows a survivor during the flood invasion of Earth, telling the story of how they make their escape out of Voi
Imagine how they reacted when Cortana went nuts and all AI started chanting about submitting to Cortana and then hundreds of ships start crashing down from space and potentially blowing up cities and blasting large holes into Earths surface like dinosaur mass extinction levels astroids.
@@PackHunter117 Imagine the poor residents of Malta or Athens when a orbital defense platform explodes and falls down to earth and seeing you're city being blown up.
Imagine how shocked civillians must have been on Reach and Earth when the covenant invaded given all the ONI propaganda they were fed about the state of the war.
Like late WWII Japan, where the propaganda reports of glorious naval victories kept getting closer and closer to the home islands...
If I remember right, the humans on Reach largely wouldn't have even known there was a war to begin with.
Could be wrong on that though, I'm a bit fuzzy.
@@Kellethorn they did after 27 years of the war, how couldn’t they?
@@KellethornThey definitely would have known about the war. But they wouldn't have known how close it was getting to them.
A massive cultural shock knowing they were lied to.
It’s kinda uncanny to think that when people think of cancer they probably think more about the constellation or the Latin word for crab than they do the disease.
Thats because you are thinking with your mind in the 21st century not in the 25th century. Of course they wouldnt care about it more than a common cold by then since its been so long that medicine has advanced so much its trivial now.
We don't give much attention to smallpox anymore while it was really deadly only last century
Cancer is just a common cold to them. Nothing a lil over the counter can’t fix
It's the same reason why now like the common cold. Back then. It was extremely dangerous if you caught it as the high morality rate. Now? Eh, take antibiotics & other medications to get it over in few days.
Well, I’m a Taurus.
I think the ad "forever we fight," does a very good job giving us a small glimpse of what civilian life was like throughout humanity's history, sheep herders, civilians huddled in wartime, rescue workers saving people, space explorers making the first jump for mankind, from soil to the stars, I hope we get more ads like it.
If anti-grav plating is so common as to be part of playground equipment then try to imagine how comfortable beds are, it would be amazing to float a few centimeters above the bed in complete comfort and have absolutely security during rough transits since the bed can keep you isolated from the jostling and bumping.... Damn it, I want an antigravity bed now.
As a resident of Harvest I love it here! I think I’m finally going to retire on February 11, 2525. I can’t wait!!!
good luck
Hi, time traveler from 2552. Harvest is no more. It has gone the way of the dodo. It is an ex-colony.
@@opticalraven1935 😨
I’m on Reach currently. I couldn’t settle on the outer worlds because most of my family still lives on Earth and Reach is close enough and it’s cheaper.
I'd love a game that details a Covenant attack from a civilian's perspective. I really want to see just how terrifying it really was for the average person.
Something like odst but from an Cops perspective. On the one hand trying your damnest to keep everything calm and all in control while whitnessing how the covenant vibes the floor wirh the unsc.
Always wondered what life was like outside the war for your average person.
Just ask Russian and Ukrainian civilians, I guess
Think...1984 on Steroids. A dystopian nightmare.
@@laurenfazenbaker9777only on some of the outer colonies.
@@darkleome5409no that’s only for some outer colonist
Go on a drive go shopping like in a mall go eat at a restaurant and just imagine it with more advanced tech imagine an orbital elevator in the sky imagine ships leaving for another planet imagine a covenant ship emerging from slip space above you and do research on how civilians lived in ww2 that’s how I immerse myself even tho it sounds weird and no I don’t imagine covenant ship in the sky 24/7 💀
I'm not sure your picture of civilian life on an inner colony was quite accurate. For instance, Sgt Johnson's grandma (?) passed away in a nursing home, and while yes, the room automatically chilled to preserve her body, it's implied/stated that she was there alone for days without being taken care of.
Huh
Not maw maw Johnson!
I think that was in Contact Harvest and he got particularly upset with a staff member because a notification about her death had not been sent out to him
@@thebagel_lord yes, showing that even in a highly intensive elderly care situation things aren't as this video implies.
It was his aunt I believe
From this. If you take say a middle class person from say dothan Alabama and dropped them in 2542 on an outer colony. There way of life wouldn’t change all to much other the TWR stuff, and the existential dread that they are no longer in 2023 or on earth. Though if you put someone from the upper (could be from anywhere) in that same year but in it on a inner colony their way of life would drastically change, to the point I don’t think that dread the other person got would affect them at all. It’s almost comical that what we consider first world living today would be considered 3rd world in 500 years. Such is the way of progress.
It always struck me as odd when humanity was on the brink of extinction and had basically no hope of winning the war without some divine intervention, yet so many marines and soldiers you see on the battlefield will have such high morale and will confidently charge into battle till their last breath without a single drop of hesitation or self-doubt, almost like they were brainwashed to do so. Of course, this is just creative writing, but after watching this video, I can see a very good in-universe explanation for this.
If I know I’m gonna get annihilated by an enemy far superior to me why not have a good laugh and joke around before I go. If I live I can deal with the trauma afterwards
Partly because halo games are more wacky than the lore, partly ONI propaganda probably
Getting brutally torn apart, the medical tech is advanced enough that you can return to full duty a few months after being a quadruple amputee & losing half your internal organs. So non-lethal injuries are a lot less significant in the long run of your life. Additionally, your average person's 1st World living on Earth in 2023 is worse than the outer-colonies life, so quality of life for everybody has gone way up. The people have better lives back home, so they're much more eager to defend those lives.
Also they probably have some kind of fancy tech that mitigates rain while in the field, which I can say from firsthand experience: you don't wanna be in the field when it's pouring rain outside.
10:14 - Not gonna lie, that scene where John wakes up and the camera pans to all the empty beds is hella deep like it's showing the human cost of the Spartan II program that literally like 90% of candidates didn't survive this far like idk... Good story telling and cinematography without using words that's the deepest pan I've ever seen like remember Reach 🥺😤🙏🏾
We know it wasn't 90% who died, out of the 75 Spartan-II's who received augmentation, 33 survived. So it's closer to 50% survival rate.
Still, that's terrifying odds, especially for a 14 year old. Imagine there being a cosmic coin toss on whether or not you're going to wake up the next time you fall asleep.
Nice one 00 I always wanted you to cover this topic because we’ve had such a narrow view of civilian life from a military perspective so seeing it discussed separately is interesting
I don’t know if this topic is in the works but it would be interesting to see what the life is like for those in the UNSC when they aren’t in combat.
Probably similar to any other 1st World military when not in combat or any field training environment, just with better technology.
50 Years ago when Marines were in Okinawa getting trained to go to Vietnam, they couldn't easily go call home; and when they were off work in-garrison, they probably just worked out, played cards, read, or played sports with their friends (in addition to drinking ofc).
Present day, I can make a simple phone call to my mom all the way back in America at any time I want. Off work I can still hit the gym, but I also have access to every movie, TV show, and video game at my fingertips. I can go anywhere on the island and use a translator app if I run into the language barrier. If I don't have enough Yen I can just tap/swipe my credit card.
So while my predecessors were still drinking with their bros and hanging out on the weekends. the technology available to present-day Marines makes it much easier for us to communicate, learn, and keep ourselves entertained when there's nothing else going on.
It is indeed a fascinating contrast between the status of the Inner colonies vs Outer colonies, and as shows how technology advance the UNSC/UEG is when not focusing on the ground weapon & vehicle aesthetics. I'm curious to see what the 2nd part will be.
7:22 Hold up that is fact though(part of it at least) Like the USAF had hand biometric readers back during the development of the F-117 night hawk stuff that was not common till smart phones in the 2010s and are just now "outdated"... The internet first came online in 1969 most people did not get it till the 2000s... Landwarrior aka persoanal AR has been in on and off field testing since the 1980s and the Meta Quest 3 might be the start of widespread civilain use... Spy satlites are easly 50 years ahead of what ever Nasa is doing as the US gov admitted when leading NASA one... and that's stuff we know imagine the stuff we don't and the stuff of black ops.
We've had biometrics in a lot of technology prior to smartphones as well. My school back in the late noughties/early 10s introduced thumb-scanners for our lunch money and it was seen as a pretty trivial thing. The tech has been around for a long time and widely available for quite a while, its just not seen widespread usage because frankly most applications for it don't require such a level of security, even something like your phone could easily work with just a four-digit code so long as you keep a hold of it.
As for the Internet, what we had back in 69 and up to the 90s was pretty much experimental and in use by large educational/research institutes, computers were somewhat a rarity outside of offices so we didn't really have a need for the Internet. Once home PCs became very common, the Internet took off.
AR and VR have definitely been in testing since the 80s but I won't agree that Meta Quest 3 is the "start of widespread civilian usage". The two technologies are pretty closely tied in nature and development of one does enhance development of the other. AR has been available in the form of mobile phone apps for some time, but like the biometrics there hasn't really been a good reason to widespread use it, perhaps like the Internet what we're really waiting on is another technology to make it useful. As for VR, I would point you to Nintendo's Virtual Boy, sold in the 90s as a common game console, but the tech sucked at the time and it was too heavy to be comfortable so it sold poorly, but the tech was definitely there and just needed some time to adjust.
There's definitely time between technology being adopted by military, research/education, and office use, and it being available to average consumers for personal use, but its definitely nowhere near the 50 years people often talk about, and usually it doesn't hit average consumer use because there isn't a real NEED for it yet. In terms of Halo lore, things like robotic prosthetics or flash-cloned organs will definitely see much greater use in the military before its pushed to average consumers, but that would be very much for the same reason that aesthetic surgeries in the real world were adopted by military in the wake of WW2 before being brought to the average civilian; there was a real need for it in military scenarios to fix the severe scars and disfigurements left by war.
@@cyqry Good points but I mean from first use by the US Government to widespread normalcy... Which like you said it took from like 1975 to being gernous 2013 with the iPhone 5s to be beyond normal yes the bank's my Mom worked had thumb scanners in the late '90s-early '00s but that was not normal and very much sci-fi to most people... which I got my thumb scanner door koobs on amazon for $100 each in the mid 2010s and most phones had one.... Very true but most stuff that is black ops under the US gov be that way...
I said AR which yes you can buy a car for around $40k with a HUD and even a day to night thing which are in every comercal and milltary plane but they are not to normalcy like in Halo or Shadowrun... Which the Quest 2 made for VR as it sells better then the current Xboxes and if thye quest 3 does the same numbers it would have done it for AR which Nintndeo could not do with the Virtal boy or the 3DS but did better with Pokemon go as it has "sold" twice as well as the Quest 3. Which again I was talking about the point from black ops use to normalcy... Which note in all those exemples it was like 50 years from point to point although your right but I would counter with 8k TVs no one needs one unless you like space for windows but you can get one for $5k anytime from best buy US... So yeah it can happen.
Neuralink astounds and terrifies me, because it's basically Halo sci-fi coming to real life fruition. Slowly yet steadily, it seems like we'll definitely get there.
Yeah a lot of the our tech now is close to Halo aside from space travel. That difference in tech will continue to shrink relatively quickly too.
it's gonna be a great tool for a lot of rich and powerful people when they get their hands on it.
Thats what i love about halo. The tech is advanced but not that extreme like other scifi universes. Except KI's, fusion Reactors and slipspace travel everything seems possible in the coming few decades.
@@uwesca6263I actually think Halo somewhat underestimates the speed of technology as well but I like how they kept it realistic and slow it feels more immersive
I find it kind of interesting that you mention Taxation/Exploitation without Representation in regards to the outer colonies and that is generally seen in lore as one of the biggest reasons for the Insurrectionist movements... when applied to our real world, the United States was a nation that formed pretty much under the same conditions; excessive taxation and resource/labour exploitation by a much more powerful central government so far away that you probably don't even notice their existence outside of what they take from you. And yet in the games, the Insurrection is seen as the "bad guys" while in the real world the people who fought in the War of Independence were seen as "freedom fighters" and overall doing a good thing. Just an interesting point on perspective there.
I mean, if you're an American, sure. If you're British (or descended from Loyalists who fled to Canada after refusing the "join or die" ultimatum), you probably see Americans going to war over the excess of taxation at something like 10% of colonial GDP as a bit of a historical irony.
In that way the halo narrative EU does the moral ambiguity of the conflict between the central earth government and the insurrectionists in a fairly realistic way. Sure, the central government has good reason to complain about the terrorism ... but the colonies do also have good reason to complain about the UEG (and ONI in particular) being oppressive dicks who either ignored or violently suppressed every peaceful attempt at self-determination.
The Expanse also does that similarly well with the Belt colonies being treated as second-class humans not just because they're distant, but because once people start having babies who grow up in microgravity, they're basically never going to be able cope with living in planetary gravity. Yeah, they do some stuff that's Not OK, but that came after some pretty significant abuses by the Inners. If we do make it to colonizing the solar system rather than wiping ourselves out too soon, I rather fear those authors are going to turn out to have been nearly prophetic.
This is probably because of the hindsight of the Covenant threat. Its a bad look for the insurrectionist to be dividing humanity when we are facing extinction. It would be like if the Americans revolted while being invaded by France or Spain.
I think you could make a very spirited argument that the Independence fighters in the Revolutionary war were not the good guys. Westward expansion, slavery, the entrenchment of a landowning nobility. That plus the straight up betrayal of an empire that had just fought the 7 years war against the French due to Washington having an itchy trigger finger (on this one I'm slightly joking but it all adds up). In reality the new taxes were not particularly bad and the US Congress brought in worse ones after independence anyway (whisky rebellion).
@@bjiornbjiorn Touche. Regarding their other actions, absolutely they were terrible, I was more referring to simply fighting against a corrupt empire that takes advantage of you.
On that note, I'm not caught up on Insurrectionist lore but I don't recall them actually doing that much wrong beyond the mention in Reach of them knocking out comms relays to steal ships or them having contraband weapons to protect their homes.
@@cyqry I'll take any excuse to be contrarian. Regarding the Insurrection the important point is that there were lots of different and unconnected cells and factions. The crime you hear most about regarding the innies is probably piracy, of ships and cargo: the most audacious of these was an attempt to steal the newly completed UNSC INFINITY. In terms of straight up atrocities, there was the nuclear bombing of an arcology on Haven in 2511 that killed 2 million civilians and wounded a further 8.3 million.
8:22 Good point fronttline US milltary is roughly 20 years infront of civilian tech like look at the F-35 Multirole aircraft, Ford class super aircraft carriers, Land Warrior with hololens or 20 years behind boots, undergarments kinda just the uncool stuff.
Please do more of these. Maybe do a video(s) going more in depth into humanity’s colonies
The differences between inner and outer colonies reminds me of Captain Sisko’s “Saint in Paradise” speech.
Honestly, I want a story in the Halo universe that follows someone from the outer colonies. Preferably set before the Human-Covenant war.
If i ever get the want to actually write a story again, i think i'll try to make one.
Thanks @installation for the shout out it was a great to hour conversation we had can't wait to do it again
This has given me a very great insight and ideas for so many stories and expansions of Halo as a sci fi univese that I don't know where to begin. The Expanse is the closest example of a similarity to how the Inner Colonies and Outer Colonies are. I'd love some expansions into other genres of stories that could explore this. Maybe a Deus Ex like Oni game?
happy that this part of the halo lore is talked about,even tho the wiki exists it’s still nice to hear more things
I wouldn't be surprised if there's popular cartoons and toys about Master Chief in the inner colony's.
Inner colony vs. outer colony seems similar to major city vs. rural arias in the USA. I think it's about 33% of Oregon who want to join their nabor state because of this divide.
Edit to correct state. Should be right state now.
Oh by the way Spartans are above teir 1 operators who have that class because they cost millions of dollors to feild and upkeep so spartans with suits that cost as much as a space frigate and are impossibly well trained and upkeep... I would think to field a spartan current year would be in the billions maybe to feild a spartan team would cost as much as a Super carrier battle group... Which ODSTs are somewhere between Teir 3 USarmy airborne and Teir 2 "Normal" Navy seals.... Where as UNSC Marines are on par with US army and UNSC Army are on par with US marines budget wise but I'm not to sure... So yeah teir 1 operators walk around in $10k worth of kit and have the lastest 30 years ahead tools if not more... Now imagine what spartans are like.
Excellent video. Puts the idea that halo is not advanced to rest. Although, I do believe the military technology is a little primitive for all their advancement. Certainly better than what we have today, but strangely unadvanced for what you would expect.
I think that's because they focused there technology on building colonies and terraforming not laser plasma and other energy directed weapons.
In my headcannon, marine and ODST suits function as low powered exo suits that function like the ones from advanced warfare. And their armor plates are almost impervious to low caliber projectile weapons.
My favorite thing about halo is how the lord could have stayed contained to the games but expanded to be its own massive, intricate, wholly unique universe. Honestly amazing and it’s my favorite thing for any fictional franchise
I know this was probably an oversight. But the thing I find it most unbelievable is that anybody in the Halo universe die of old age.
Flash grown organs where a common technology even before the human covenant war.
And the very same technology could be used to replace any part of the body that got too old.
Even neurons, in the brain. So I find it very hard to believe that we didn't meet any people born in the... well mid to late 21º century, the way things are moving in the real world.
We're expecting this type of biological immortality over the next few decades.
100 to 150 years is what we're looking at if you're born today and you're fabulously wealthy.
Otherwise.
60/70 average awaits until the tech becomes available and cheap.
@@damenwhelan3236 Nope, this is a winning political issue and a necessity due to our crashing birth rates. Also It's far more profitable for the pharmaceutical companies since life extension grants you a captive audience. An eternal captive audience. Not to mention for every year you live the technology improves.
Yeah this is an issue I also find a lot when it comes to most future Sci-fi. Most writers really don't consider the probability of practical immortality/eternal youth in the next few decades let alone centuries.
For older Sci-fi (19th and early 20th centuries), that can be somewhat excused as it was thought we'd be multi-planetary centuries before such advances in biotech. But in more modern Sci-Fi, it is something that is really undervalued.
@@NovoCognition Yes and it's a question both in real life and in fiction that I find somewhat preplexing. The moment we get flash cloning of organs and the ability to implant younger body parts once the old ones get too old, why do most people still act like dying of old age is a guarantee.
@@damenwhelan3236 that's the current age we get in Italy without medical assistance and even smoking.
I'll live till 70-75 years old because I smoke.
While many others here lives till 90.
Women here lives even to 100 to 110 years old if lucky.
My grand grandmother reached 105 years and I had the lucky of meet her. She even had all her original teeth.
Living till 150 years old here in Italy would looks like a small and humble achievement.
And we aren't the only ones who reach those ages in the world.
And, another point, all of this only with physical activity and a good diet.
Healthcare helps but the old generations had very less coverage respect us today.
Sure is true that today Italian medicine is one of the more advanced in the world, second healthcare system in the world, first to produce hand prostetics, vanguard in the production of medicines, transplants of organs or even limbs.
But that is just a recent achievement. For the previous 50 years we lived in a country reduced to ashes by the ww2.
And we had to rebuild it.
So that's takes out the healthcare addition to the living conditions.
Still, we have people that have really long lives. Without high tech.
"car accidents are virtually non-existent"
(Looks over to Kat)
Talented and insightful as always well done
also i think education in the core worlds wouldnt be that good. it would be pretty specialized for "marketable" skills. Somehow the UEG doesnt strike me as the kind of goverment that wants its people to know a lot about the world. Also id guess ONI made sure you have... approved opinoins after finishing school. Oni is clever, they will make sure. Also im not sure why you assume you wont be exploited in the inner colonies. Like, the asshats that take advantage of the outer colonies wont hesitate to take advantage of you.
In the second half, « you’re starting to sound like an Insurrectionnist »
It’s always so interesting to hear about the average person in an extraordinary setting. A slice of life that may or may not include death and destruction, or a regular office job.
Do regular civilians as a whole know about existence of the Forunners, and the Flood? Or is it just the UNSC?
I imagine folk on world's with forerunner relics know about them
Concerning the flood, that would be the UNSC and ONI who would know about this with a few civilians do who know but are dismissed as conspiracy theorists or are forcibly disappeared. Knowledge concerning the Forerunners would be limited to ONI and some select UNSC staff with knowledge concerning the matter being harshly suppressed.
bro the life in the outer-colonies is the most Warhammer 40K moment ever.
In the Halo universe, humanity seems to be in a fairly dystopian place. I see it as hard to be happy. My view is probably coloured by the militarised lens of the games and books so I'm excited to see this video. I'm prepared to learn a ton as one tends to do on this channel :)
Edit as I finish: so it seems it really depends on where you live. Life is great it you're rich or live in the inner colonies. Meanwhile life in the outer colonies is basically like living in present day America
Thanks!
If gravity on a Halo ring is caused by the rotation of the ring, is flight any different on the Halo ring then it would be on a planet?
2:55 I haven't seen the full trailer in a while so when I was laying down and watching this scene while my phone was to the left of me. I blinked just as I saw chiefs helmet so i was surprised to just end up in a battlefield.
Actually been thinking of this lately in the form of a weird city manager type of game, but glad you're doin this, curious meself.
Basically outer world is like 3rd world vs 1st world inner colonies
I think a deeper insight into civilian life is from the technology we don't see. On the surface it looks like a standard post scarcity civilisation, but we don't see a lot of things we'd assume such a culture would have. Where are the androids? Where are the post-humans outside the spartan programme? Where is the power armour outside of the Spartan programme? And sure, in the game it's an artistic choice, but in universe there seems to be a level of creative sterility, with the logical implication that it woudl have to be enforced. And that leads to some very dark specilation about how many engineers, artists, and scientists ONI is killing each year to stop technology they don't like from being developed.
And also how many colonists died because of that enforced creative sterility prevented the development and wide spread availability of technology needed to fight the covenant.
And then you have the question of why the advantages of the core-worlds aren't available to the outer colonies. The tech level they describe is pertty damn close to von-neuman tech, albeit possibly of the 'clanking replicator' variety. So why is it that 'most produce is taken by earth' as opposed to 'most is collected by earth as the colonists are producing more than they could ever need, while working one day a week'? It seems less like a technical limitation, and more a political decision. "Keep the oujters poor and ensure they rebell in order to justify our military industrial complex."
There seems to be a level of darkness at the heart of the human government that's pretty horrifying.
Exactly, finally somebody gets it.
I mean with the neural implants, AIs and a large percentage of the population being artists, innovators and creators, and even if all of these things were recent developments their society should still be more advanced! ....... Unless there were other forces (ONI) and factors (Geas) that counteracted said advancements.
Will you do a chronological video series on the human-covenant war?
Now we need a common life exspectancy video from colony to unsc
The best Halo channel!
Would SO love to see any kind of spinoff flood horror game, like fighting the flood from a marine/odst perspective, or even trying to get off-planet during a flood or covenant invasion with only a handgun and some ammo as a regular ass civilian.
I will admit I was sceptical about how good this video was going to be, but I shouldn't have been, epic as always. You legend!
If you ever want a kitchen designed bud let me know lol
Regarding burial space in the colonies:
There would almost certainly be cheap and abundant places to bury the dead outside of Earth and the sol system. Earth has a population of 10 billion circa 2552 whereas Reach, The most populous colony outside of Earth, hasn’t even reached a billion. Many outer colonies have populations as low as 3 million for the whole planet. There is no shortage of space, if anything earthlings might move to the colonies for cheaper real estate and bigger homes.
I love these deep dive videos into what happens behind the scenes in games. Great work!!
7:48 Correct! If we got fancy high tech power armor and other cool sci-fi stuff, I *guarantee* you that one of my Lcpls would try to be cool and take moto selfies in his tech gear & post it on social media.
Not to mention that the Army would get it first and then we'd get it after it's been obsolete for a few years - a decade :(
Can someone tell me what the song used at 4:18 is I have been looking for it for the past week and a bit now and I can't seem to find it anywhere, was fairly certain it was part of Halo 3 ODST's soundtrack but when looking it up it's not there.. Any help would be appreciated on that front cheers.
With cybernetics and flash cloning being as easy and prevalent as they are, *why aren't we seeing more semi-augmented individuals?* For example, somebody could get the Adam Jensen treatment with superior-to-organic robotic limbs, enhanced cybernetic eyes, neural enhancements (potentially with dumb AI like CASIE) etc.
Or perhaps they could have their heart & lungs swapped with genetically modified, more robust & heavy duty clones of their own.
I'm not saying that isn't anywhere withing Halo, I'm sure there may be some DXHR/CP2077 like scenarios on Earth or something, but why isn't it as common in the USNC or ONI?
Even without the SPARTANs, ONI still should've had some kind of augmented field agents - given how readily available flash-cloning and cybernetics are.
I imagine ONI could have a Men-in-Black unit, where they feature a whole host of augs without going crazy and making SPARTANs or anything; neural enhancements for better reflexes, bone reinforcements (without the growth stimulation as these agents must blend in with normal humans), neural implants with added data storage and brain processing + dumb AI for assistance, fully mechanical/synthetic heart -or- flash-cloned heart of the agent but genetically modified to pump harder & more efficiently, fully synthetic lungs -or- flash-cloned lungs genetically modified for increased respiration per breath, addition synthetic/genemodded clone organs transplanted to replace original ones, cybernetic eye replacement or retinal implant, either surgical repositioning of tendons + muscular enhancement -or- amputation of limbs and replacement with stronger & faster robotic limbs (aesthetically disguised to look like normal organic limbs) etc. Basically making a normal-human-sized cyborg, a ghetto-SPARTAN if you will, to look normal but be vastly superior to human physiology in every way.
Military industrial complex doesn't refer to conspiratorial views of government R&D, it just means the industry of developing for the military. It *is* more advanced than civilian industries both because it's incredibly well-funded, and because it uses a top-down design cycle that allows for vigorous testing and rewards reliable contractors with long term payouts. Even in the most advanced civilian industries such as the medical industry, ideas usually come from startups, and the lucky ones are bought out by major pharmaceutical corporations, creating a high risk environment where only certain ideas float from the bottom up while potentially groundbreaking ones could go ignored for years. In the military industrial complex a problem is identified at the branch level and contractors submit their solutions through sometimes outlandishly rigorous testing procedures, to the extent that often no contractor wins because none of their products are reliable enough to replace what's currently in service. This ensures that only the most exceptional technologies receive funding. The ones that win this competition are rewarded handsomely and will be called on again in the future to create another solution. Instead of individual ideas floating to the top, contractors that have proven themselves time and time again rise to power and form long-lasting, mutually beneficial relationships with the military to ensure they will have the resources to continue developing for them. These often manifest in the way of conflicts of interest, defending important industry leaders, and other forms of corruption. The field -tested technologies then eventually trickle their way down into the civilian market. In the real world, Lockheed Martin is the bona fide king of the military industrial complex, but in the Halo universe, that's Misriah Armories, which is why almost every piece of UNSC equipment is developed by them. Suffice to say, the Halo universe has the exact same disconnect between military and civilian industries as the real world
"oh wow what a nice day, thats kind of a big weird clou-"
**Gets glassed**
One of the better videos of this channel. Excellent work
Living in 2500, as a civilian or trader or merchant between back water planets and stuff actually seems interesting to me.
23:11 what about mental health? I bet they can identify and remove any genetic factors that might be behind them. Then pharmaceutical medicine has probably advanced to the point where they cancel out the effects of environmental stressors. That's truly fascinating to think about imo
I've always been interested what human civilian society was like during the war, but we don't really get much on that front which is a shame.
I feel like the lore on what average people know about the war is a bit funky. Now I haven't kept up with a lot of recent Halo stuff post like 2011, and I may be misremembering, but the way that everything is mostly hidden to the civilian populace seems like it would be hard to manage towards the middle/end of the war. Sure early on it would be easy to conceal the true scale from some rando guy living on a secure planet, but by the time all the Outer Colonies are husks and the Covenant are starting to take Inner ones then how would that not affect things on their planets? The loss of industry and materials from the Outers would have to have an effect, and then wouldn't stuff like war time production having to be ramped up massively and rationing have to be noticeable too? I don't find it likely that this was all perfectly hidden by ONI or whatever until the Covenant start showing up to Earth and shit.
I also wondered what it would be like to be a civilian and be in a situation like this. Aliens are fighting humanity, you're losing quite badly and will probably be driven close to extinction (with the only thing keeping humanity alive that they're so scattered they can't possibly all be hunted down), but given that the war took place over 27 years it doesn't happen immediately but is a slow, grinding death that you just gotta sit there and take. It must be so strange to be living and knowing you are probably gonna be the last generation of the human race.
Talk about the rebels and the development of gen 1 spartans to quell rebellion pre covenant
"i do love a good underdog story" when a covenant cruiser singlehandedly glasses your enrire planet
This was a good video idea, well done friend.
Much like my desire to explore the Star Wars Universe, I greatly desire to explore the human empire of Halo. Pre Covenant, obviously. Also alternate scenarios where humans successfully colonize non-Flood infested Forerunner installations like the Rings and the Ark. Gods there are so many stories to be told, so many places to explore, so many interesting things.
Loved that piece, finally someone bringing some light on the "normal" life in the halo universe.
Also interesting to see that you are supporting tax dodging innies.
Conspiracy theorists often say that the government or military(military industrial complex) has access to technology 50 years more advanced than civilians. I think this is only partly true. Think back to 50 years ago. The most powerful "computer" or computer systems, even "computer farms" back then is well within the range of computational power available to civilians today
Excellent video!
I still remember seeing the Halo Movie trailer back in the day in the school computer lab....ohh....if only
Rodger Egbert resurrected AI construct still rocking out the movie reviews in the 26th century at 5:23!
Hey, with respect, the perspective of "Brutal and short" lives of non agrarian ancient (and modern) peoples doesn't really seem to bare out in the evidence.
For example, in Italy, ten thousand year old remains of a seventeen year old were found. Nick named Romito, his skeleton demonstrated signs of dwarfism and bad oral disease. Despite this, by merit of his age, it's clear his social group cared for him, gave him food and appeared to honor him with a distinguished burial. Not only did ancient humans have complicated burial customs and clear signs of religious activity, there is also strong evidence to suggest they cared for people who "couldn't pull their own weight" as you described. It's a nit pick, and I don't think it's a huge deal, it's just a common perspective of the ancient world that I think really needs to change so we can understand our history and ourselves better.
Cheers mate, have a rad day!
Also they found neanderthal remains that supposedly were from ppl who lived to 50. Not old by todays standards, but pretty good for a pre medicine age
Then there is Gobekli Teppe, a city at least 5000 years older than the Sumerian civilization ...built before agriculture......before the "cradle of civilization " as recorded as the beginning of modern humanity...wrongly...by historians. Humanity was well civilized and organized long before the flood and the Sumerian culture that followed thousands of years after.
24:46 what is this from?
I find it very likely that our national parks still remained kept and protected this far in the future.
In halo 3 ODST one of the levels takes place in a nature reserve around new mobossara.
It more like the military has technology 50 year to expensive then the civilian market, at one point drones were cutting edge technology that you could only find in either the USA military and the USSR military, Now we hand them out as cheap gifts to kids. It not hat civilians don't have that technology but that the number of civilians that can afford it is so low and the need to specific that its none existent.
For example the MJOLNIR armor is to expensive to be found outside of the UNSC military, but by the 2600s it wouldn't be uncommon for the version of SWAT or private security to be wearing something equivalent.
Great video
While yeah the idea my own home is constantly studying me is kind of creepy, the fact it’s doing that to keep me healthy, a little intrusiveness doesn’t seem all that bad.
Eh, let’s be real it’s a bit much. There a better balance when it comes to smart homes. I also don’t like the idea of my joke having the risk of being hacked. Ironically enough minus space travel mist things described in this video are already a reality in the beginning stages.
@@justchilling704 agreed, like I said it’s a bit creepy and does have its risks.
@@Ser_Matticusin real life, there is nothing smart about a smart home. It's just means it's tracking you and sending data to the internet. There is little to no benefit.
17:54 or maybe i’ll haven enough credits for spartan 3 augmentation and default armor
I was thinking the same thing about life in the outer colonies that you said in your wrap-up
civilian companies with military contracts, the people who request more spenditure on the the goods those companies make, and the people who write the checks from tax dollars ARE THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX THAT EISENHOWER TALKED ABOUT. Why do you need a shadow group of rich people who control everything to exist when there is a very visible group of rich people who control everything to concentrate attention on??
There must be so much good literary fiction in the UNSC. People divorcing and rediscovering life at 89, getting into arguments with your children who are your age, etc.
That would be absolutely insane and awesome all at the same time!
So much of this runs counter to what we already know in universe. Did someone else do the research for this video?
I’d like to know what the theme is that plays at the end if anybody knows, thanks a bunch!
To summarize: the Koslovics did nothing wrong.
I love your videos, can you bring up the volume during editing please though, thats just always an issue I have with your videos.
Great video and overview. The only thing I have to fix is the military aspect, technology and medical wise the status would be the same or close enough to not know the difference. However the 2 fields that would be vastly different is aircraft which would be more the Naval section as they would be vastly farther ahead with computers, AI, speed and power production just like today a Naval Aircraft carrier has 15 years of power on board and can sustain itself where nothing else can. Same would go for civilians flying commercial vs the fast and fighter craft of the UNSC. This would not be a big notice for 99% of people anyway as transport is stupid fast in Halo vs today. The other would be weapons and tech like thermals, night vision and such being someone who has 20 years of field experience working with this the civilian models of night vision and thermals as well as scopes are far behind what we use and cost such a Astronomican amount to get close that people are not buying them. Even the thermals in mercedes and such today are vastly behind the military version as we need to see kilometers and civilians need to see 200 meters at most on the road. Also the guns we use are not the same as the civilian versions and although some are better they are only made to sell to military contracts and if they don't get picked up then they make a civilian version to recuperate losses in R&D. Even the Sig Spear civilian model is far inferior to the Military model with the hybrid ammo that's high pressure.
Would love to see a similar video but from the viewpoint as life in the covenant. How the different races interact and general day in the life
I like to think in 500 years some one will find this video and it’ll blow their minds start a whole new wave of time travel conspiracy theories 😂
I'd love to see a side story of a post-Covenant world with dual colonies of Sangheili and humans. Not necessarily singing kumbayah together, but gradually, grudgingly earning each others' respect as mostly-civil competitors. Say on opposite continents
Great video!!! Thank you
The US military is where everyone points at and the tech in development is around 5 to 10 years more advanced. But these are still in development for a reason. Your average soldier does have some equipment that is unavailable to civilians . But it's not generations ahead of anything civilians could develop. Most soldiers use standard issue equipment that while superior to what many other countries use are not all that much more advanced compared to the society that supports the military use on a daily.
The military first devloped GPS in the early 90's so advanced yes compared to a country that doesn't have a gps system. Reverse engineered Alien technology ? No.
What are we fighting for? Matters!
Like how the later half is basically just URF stuff
Out of any universe Halo would be the most dystopian... 500 years later the United Nations are still a thing, the globalists are still trying to make me pay taxes.
Very true Halo setting is bleak even before the genocidal/omnicidal campaign of the Covenant. The Spartan programs prior to the IVs alone demonstrate this.
Too many people in the working-class are spending day-to-day surviving and our technology begins to stagnate because of it
I love all of your videos, but have you done one talking in more detail about AI in the setting? I know a little bit about it but I’d love to see what you could expand upon.
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If I lived in the Halo universe like this I would more concerned with dealing with space travel with my money of should I treat the civilian space shuttle like a bus/Uber or like a Jumbo Jet.
I finally was able to slow it down, and when you say "MJOLNIR Powered Assault Armor" I was hearing (initially) "Milly powder salt armor". That's about the only thing you say really fast and I was confused for awhile as to what the devil you were saying. 😀
I’m so confused in the “Thursday War” cheif Mendez and the Spartans he’s with are completely dumbfounded but the building of the forerunners being able to change layout to suit the needs of the inhabitants changing floorplan furniture Ect saying something like nothing they have is even close to doing that.
As well as in “Mortal Dictada” Margaret parengaski was retiring at 92 stating that no one lives to be her age and that it’s amazing that someone lives that long.
I wonder how life on Earth has shifted since the Battle of Earth and subsequent New Phoenix incident and occupation by the Created some years later,