Thank you! I'm only 11 minutes in, I haven't read the books and I really appreciate your restraint with the spoilers. I love getting the general idea without the intricate details of each scene. Your content is always appreciated, thank you again!
I definitely think Olivia Cooke has a chance of winning awards for alicent in s2 just because of the emotional impact the events of the season are going to have on her.
I still think Ottos line was directed towards Aegon, Aemond, and Criston after he gets fired, not towards the Blacks, since you can see he packed all his stuff and you can see he no longer has the hand pin like he had in other shoots. Also the coin flipping is Aemond, you can see Aegon in the background across of him, def Aemonds thin fingers and the position checks out, it's also a slight parallel to ep 10 when spins/plays with his dagger at Storms End.
I feel like the blood and cheese scene will end with the slash at the end of episode one and then episode two starts with handmade carrying sheets. Kinda how Ned die’s episode 9 and episode 10 we see the head from a distance
Great detailed breakdown. I enjoyed listening to this yesterday on my morning commute to work. So the big battle beats this season / S2 seems to be Burning Mill , Rook's Rest and expanding Harrnehal into more of a siege than the text suggested ? Makes sense and even though i try to stay away from leaks and spoilers the Gullet does seem to be pushed to S3 , i do not really see it fitting into this shortened season anyway and not like we've seen a remote glimpse of a huge naval battle for S2. And apologies if i missed it during this vid but has there been any clarity on that dragon near the end of the Greens' teaser / trailer ? Apologies if i missed your analysis of it in this vid , if you included it i must have missed it on my first listen during my commute. Some say its Seasmoke and in that lighting not impossible but i thought i remembered more discernible red accents and different horns on the face and head of Seasmoke in S1 (unless i am misremembering). Given it was a Greens' teaser i suspected it was actually Dreamfyre , that dragon in that glimpse looked like Drogon , which could give credence to the Dreamfyre as the mother of Dany's dragons (would be a nice nod from Condal. Unless it was the lighting throwing me off , did not look like a dragon we already saw in S1.
@@thedragondemands5186 ah yes in the text its not much of a struggle , i thought they might have been expanding it to more of siege for the show / HotD. I did hear some say Condal confirmed that with Seasmoke but wasn't sure how credible until now you are confirming that. The lighting tends to be tricky in these teaser / trailer glimpses (especially around the dragons) ; personally thought Seasmoke looked a bit different in S1 , but i must be misremembering. Look forward to your dragons vid breaking that all down. I'd assume with you clarifying that glimpse is of Seasmoke would be him preparing to take a new rider / Addam.
@@thedragondemands5186 thats a good point , for some reason i was thinking we caught a glimpse of Seasmoke after Laenor's HotD disappearance but i believe you are correct and we have not. The lighting also tricky as is usually the deliberate case in these trailers for certain elements. And i haven't rewatched HotD since its original airing so perhaps my memory of Seasmoke's exact look not the best anyway. He certainly should look older and different after so long, i thought his facial and neck horns were different the last time we saw him (though could alter with age) and more definable red accents. But could be his aging , my memory playing tricks and the dark lighting threw me off a bit. Best to get clarity from you about the Condal confirmation , unintentionally had heard it from some click-baity not as reliable sources so was looking for confirmation from a reliable source like yourself.
13:41 I think it actually is Rhaenyra when she prepares to fly to Harrenhal/Redfork when u compare her braid to the hair she is wearing when she is in ship breakers bay/the still where she cries to daemon. Also as a hair person if that braid would’ve somehow opened up it wouldn’t look the way it does in ship breakers bay
I think more and more that HBO is building up the ground to do a remake. They are doing so many things that seems to lead up to do a remake. To give D & D the finger.
Great video as always I just love listening to you go in depth. Something that I think when you talk about Jace going to the wall Bran was touched by the Night King then went past the wall Dany was able to go north of the wall cause Bran deactivated the magic when he crossed over. *just a thought as hear you talk about it*
Amazing video! Can I just add my two cents? I don't think that shot of Rhaenyra walking to Syrax is in episode 1, because she is wearing a braid in that scene, while we can see that her hair is kind of loose when she is at Shipbreaker Bay. Also, her outfit seems to be black or dark blue, rather than burgundy like the one she is wearing in episode 1. My guess is that this is a scene of her either in episode 7 (the outfit and the hair seem similar to the ones she's wearing when meeting with Addam) or in episode 8. Now, a question, which I don't know if you can confirm, but... Is Mysaria actually going to be part of Blood and Cheese in the show? Considering the leaks about Daemon sneaking into King's Landing, I thought of the possibility of him hiring the assassins himself, without Mysaria's help.
I’m curious to know what the episode runtimes will be? I know season 1 pretty much average about 60 minutes. Seems like a lot is going on in the first few episodes?
A two-handed Greatsword weighs less than 8 pounds. I just think Ned Stark was not trained to fight with at two-handed great sword. He was a second son.
Personally I have not read the dance of the dragon bit of fire and blood but I think Aegon created the Joffrey parallel in his brother, Aemond while himself being a Robert parallel. Although sweet Helaena is about as big of an anti-Cersei as the show gets.
That's exactly how they are in the book. The season 1 kinda modified Aegon and Aemond characters a bit. But it seems season 2 will adapt their book versions.
I actually think the coin-flipper is Aemond. The next shot in the trailer is edited as a connecting shot, and it's Alicent looking at Aemond at the far end of the small council table (with his back to the entrance of the room), then shifting her gaze to the person on the other end, which in all small council meetings in Season 1 has been the king. The person opposite the coin-flipper has a window behind him, and as far as I can recall, in all the small council meetings in Season 1 the windows in that room are behind the king and on the king's right. In all those small council meetings the ones on the king's left were always the Master of Law, the Archmaester, and the Master of Coin. But if one of them was the coin-flipper (and we can rule out Orwyle), then they would be opposite Alicent (at least that's what the edit suggests). That means the coin-flipper must be opposite the king. So far that position was always for the Master of Ships (first Corlys, later Tyland). But the Master of Ships position is vacant at this point, so who sits there? That's why I think they will slide Aemond into these meetings.
@@thedragondemands5186 I know, but puzzles are fun! 😃 Also a testament to Ryan Condal's consistency in placement at that table. I like details like that.
If the funeral is like 1st episode an Jaece is there maybe he flew there from the Vale before going to winterfell as it would be to quick I paused the video to put my question in so yes this makes sense
Great swords such as Claymores weighed less than a baby. They could easily be wielded by people who are trained. Any 10-year-old child could lift a claymore could it be welded it's a different story. and since it's a magical sword weighing less than a normal sword it should be wielded in battle. Like the Claymore. They were British-Scottish officers fighting with Claymores in India.
I think they're going to omit nettles and give her role to one of daemon'@ daughters. Rhaena doesn't have a dragon. It would make sense it is her who claims sheepstealer. It would also make sense for her to have a connection to daemon, and even live with him if he survives the fight against aemond. Much more interesting than what happens in the books...
Forgive me if you've already reported on this, but do we know why the show changed Corlys' illness to a war injury? The impression I got from the books was that he might've been poisoned to precipitate the Driftmark succession. Since the show loosely implied that Alicent was giving Viserys more milk of the poppy than he needed to ensure he'd miss the Driftmark petition so Otto could preside over it and rule in Vaemond's favor, it stood to reason that they might've also had Corlys poisoned; or the petition could've been something Alicent discussed with Larys and he took it upon himself to poison Corlys for her, similar to how he orchestrated the fire at Harrenhal to create the opening for Otto to get his job back. It's here nor there at this point; just something I'm curious about.
Aegon the Gold dragon will rise this season , and we hope we get in depth into this character unlike S1 which reduced him to just a sexual harasser & drunk
If daemon can sneak into kings landing through hidden tunnels, he should have brought like 20 men at arms. He could have killed all the greens away from their dragons. Then who challenges the blacks claim
Your thoughts on Wake the Dragon's latest findings? #rhaenicent Im also a recent subscriber to your channel - just appreciate the level of detail and promptness of your videos, especially when you hear news..😊
As far as blood and cheese goes if they got into the red keep so easily why didn’t they just try to kill anyone they could get ahold of like the king the queen Alicent ect? But I am super happy for this season
We will get it. Leading up to a Game Of Thrones remake. Probably in the next 10/15 years! GRRM has clearly said that he doesn’t want to end his books and universe in confusion and doubts. He wants to reveal the great secrets that fans have been craving to know over the past 2 decades!
@@ChristisLORD2004 think about how many characters we have already seen that would have to be recast. Robert, Ned, Jaime, Barristan, Tywin, Cersei, Stannis, Davos, Catelyn etc… There is simply too many characters, and all of them having already been portrayed famously in GOT. It’s a gargantuan task.
@@DanLanningPRTeam They're rebooting Harry Potter and a lot of famous fantasy novels that existed. I don't think that's impossible. Everything is possible in Hollywood. Specially HBO. ASOIAF is the only IP apart from DC that gives them the most amount of profit.
I think the theory in the show was that dragons could only pass the wall following Bran, keeping some continuity with F&B. The Night King's mark, which broke the wight seal on Bloodraven's cave, could have had the same effect on the wall as Bran travelled through it- of course this was never elaborated on and was one of many magic-related plotlines abandoned by D&D.
As you say that’s just fanfic, didn’t actually give that explanation- and no, if Bran crossing south depowered the Wall…why would the White Walkers still need to BREAK THROGH the Wall with a dragon?
@@thedragondemands5186 Assuming the theory to be true, even if The Wall's magic defences had been disabled, it would still carry out its primary function of being a physical wall that stops things from getting past. The still manned (albeit lightly) NW castles were unlikely to allow the WW passage without resistance, likely motivating the NK to create a large gap in The Wall that would allow for the more efficient passage of a large number of wight troops than say funneling them through the tunnels. He probably (somehow) came to the conclusion that dragonfire was the easiest way of doing this. But yeah, on a meta level it was most likely just done for spectacle & visual symbolism 😭
@@ChristisLORD2004 how is it connected to winds of winter? I don’t think it is at all. His marriage to Sara was not the pact of ice and fire. The betrothal of Cregan daughter to Jaces son is
Other than continuing Septon Barth’s peace and maintaining peace throughout Viserys’s reign no matter how hard Viserys tried to screw it up. Don’t forget that the single most peaceful time in Targaryen history was caused by greater acclamation to the Faith of the Seven and Andal culture. The more the Targ’s forgot their Valyrian exceptionalism and focused more on becoming culturally Westerosi. The more peaceful it was for the realm. Otto would have ushered in another century of peace between Aegon II and Jaehaerys II. Sometimes its all about image
@@thedragondemands5186let’s be honest though what is the intrigue with Nettles? It’s not like it was in the books, where for better or worse she was an icon for minority groups. A non-white character riding a dragon was something new and fresh. Between Laenor, Laena, and Baela plus the seeds there is practically more non-white dragonriders than white dragonriders. Unless you think people really love Nettles for her blood magic…
@@DanLanningPRTeam her being cut from the show would actually benefit the story unlike daeron imo. I think giving her stoyline to baela/rhaena and not have daemon cheat on his wife is a better fit lmao (Even though it might've not been the case with unreliable narrators)
@@visupreme2757 yeah it’s much better for painting Daemon as not a pedo. Which is the only reason the showrunners waited until Rhaenyra aged up for him to smash.
@@DanLanningPRTeam the only way I can see this working is her challenging the notion that only people of Targaryen blood can ride dragon. She is the voice of the people in the book. When the battle of the gullet happens, the other seeds celebrate while she cries at all the death they wrought. Through her, you can see just how awful the cost of war is to the common man. Also, the Targ dragon bonding. The entire point of their dynasty is that they're super special magical folks who are the only ones who can tame these medieval nukes. People of non-Valyrian blood will supposedly always fail (which we can kinda see from the Sowing of the Seeds). But, then Nettles comes along and takes a dragon-a girl of dubious parentage who may not be a seed at all, but a commoner. That is a signal to all the other people that yeah, they too could somehow get access to medieval nukes and that they may not have any reason to bow to the Targs anymore. Hill's Alive (a good ASOIAF yter with some interesting takes) theorized this is why Rhaenyra ordered her killed. So that the secret of her dragon taming didn't get out to the masses.
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Thank you! I'm only 11 minutes in, I haven't read the books and I really appreciate your restraint with the spoilers. I love getting the general idea without the intricate details of each scene.
Your content is always appreciated, thank you again!
Well there are some that are unavoidable but I’m not showing them off either
I definitely think Olivia Cooke has a chance of winning awards for alicent in s2 just because of the emotional impact the events of the season are going to have on her.
I still think Ottos line was directed towards Aegon, Aemond, and Criston after he gets fired, not towards the Blacks, since you can see he packed all his stuff and you can see he no longer has the hand pin like he had in other shoots. Also the coin flipping is Aemond, you can see Aegon in the background across of him, def Aemonds thin fingers and the position checks out, it's also a slight parallel to ep 10 when spins/plays with his dagger at Storms End.
I feel like the blood and cheese scene will end with the slash at the end of episode one and then episode two starts with handmade carrying sheets. Kinda how Ned die’s episode 9 and episode 10 we see the head from a distance
Great detailed breakdown. I enjoyed listening to this yesterday on my morning commute to work. So the big battle beats this season / S2 seems to be Burning Mill , Rook's Rest and expanding Harrnehal into more of a siege than the text suggested ? Makes sense and even though i try to stay away from leaks and spoilers the Gullet does seem to be pushed to S3 , i do not really see it fitting into this shortened season anyway and not like we've seen a remote glimpse of a huge naval battle for S2.
And apologies if i missed it during this vid but has there been any clarity on that dragon near the end of the Greens' teaser / trailer ? Apologies if i missed your analysis of it in this vid , if you included it i must have missed it on my first listen during my commute. Some say its Seasmoke and in that lighting not impossible but i thought i remembered more discernible red accents and different horns on the face and head of Seasmoke in S1 (unless i am misremembering). Given it was a Greens' teaser i suspected it was actually Dreamfyre , that dragon in that glimpse looked like Drogon , which could give credence to the Dreamfyre as the mother of Dany's dragons (would be a nice nod from Condal. Unless it was the lighting throwing me off , did not look like a dragon we already saw in S1.
No Harrenhal isn’t a siege he takes it by sneaking in. As for that dragon, Condal stated it was Seasmoke, I’ll talk about that in the dragons video
@@thedragondemands5186 ah yes in the text its not much of a struggle , i thought they might have been expanding it to more of siege for the show / HotD.
I did hear some say Condal confirmed that with Seasmoke but wasn't sure how credible until now you are confirming that. The lighting tends to be tricky in these teaser / trailer glimpses (especially around the dragons) ; personally thought Seasmoke looked a bit different in S1 , but i must be misremembering. Look forward to your dragons vid breaking that all down. I'd assume with you clarifying that glimpse is of Seasmoke would be him preparing to take a new rider / Addam.
@@AlexBB77 Condal explained the EW interview: we last saw Seasmoke 16 years ago, so of course he looks older now
@@thedragondemands5186 thats a good point , for some reason i was thinking we caught a glimpse of Seasmoke after Laenor's HotD disappearance but i believe you are correct and we have not. The lighting also tricky as is usually the deliberate case in these trailers for certain elements. And i haven't rewatched HotD since its original airing so perhaps my memory of Seasmoke's exact look not the best anyway. He certainly should look older and different after so long, i thought his facial and neck horns were different the last time we saw him (though could alter with age) and more definable red accents. But could be his aging , my memory playing tricks and the dark lighting threw me off a bit.
Best to get clarity from you about the Condal confirmation , unintentionally had heard it from some click-baity not as reliable sources so was looking for confirmation from a reliable source like yourself.
13:41 I think it actually is Rhaenyra when she prepares to fly to Harrenhal/Redfork when u compare her braid to the hair she is wearing when she is in ship breakers bay/the still where she cries to daemon. Also as a hair person if that braid would’ve somehow opened up it wouldn’t look the way it does in ship breakers bay
I think more and more that HBO is building up the ground to do a remake. They are doing so many things that seems to lead up to do a remake. To give D & D the finger.
Also great video.
Well, a decade or two from now at the earliest
I hope so❤🎉
Are you talking about a remake of GOT ? Wow that's another Big project do you think this will happen
Either it will be their first original remake, or not. I feel like either option satisfies Occam's razor, at this point.
Could we get Daemon talking to his daughters, just once? It’s ridiculous. Anyway, excellent breakdown, thanks
I find Rhaenyra's lack of relationship with Harwin Strong worse.
Thank you!!!!!! I’ve been waiting for this!!!!
Great video as always I just love listening to you go in depth.
Something that I think when you talk about Jace going to the wall
Bran was touched by the Night King then went past the wall
Dany was able to go north of the wall cause Bran deactivated the magic when he crossed over. *just a thought as hear you talk about it*
Appreciate this 👍
Yes! Was waiting for this 👍🏼
Great review
Great video! Are we sure B&C is in ep 2, and not the last scene of ep 1? I would to see an S2 episode outline, btw🔥
They show up on the last scene of episode one but it happens at the beginning of episode two
They show up on the last scene of episode one but it happens at the beginning of episode two
Amazing video! Can I just add my two cents? I don't think that shot of Rhaenyra walking to Syrax is in episode 1, because she is wearing a braid in that scene, while we can see that her hair is kind of loose when she is at Shipbreaker Bay. Also, her outfit seems to be black or dark blue, rather than burgundy like the one she is wearing in episode 1. My guess is that this is a scene of her either in episode 7 (the outfit and the hair seem similar to the ones she's wearing when meeting with Addam) or in episode 8.
Now, a question, which I don't know if you can confirm, but... Is Mysaria actually going to be part of Blood and Cheese in the show? Considering the leaks about Daemon sneaking into King's Landing, I thought of the possibility of him hiring the assassins himself, without Mysaria's help.
I’m curious to know what the episode runtimes will be? I know season 1 pretty much average about 60 minutes. Seems like a lot is going on in the first few episodes?
I would guess 1h-20 minute per episodes!
At least 1 hour is expected.
A two-handed Greatsword weighs less than 8 pounds.
I just think Ned Stark was not trained to fight with at two-handed great sword. He was a second son.
Personally I have not read the dance of the dragon bit of fire and blood but I think Aegon created the Joffrey parallel in his brother, Aemond while himself being a Robert parallel. Although sweet Helaena is about as big of an anti-Cersei as the show gets.
That's exactly how they are in the book. The season 1 kinda modified Aegon and Aemond characters a bit. But it seems season 2 will adapt their book versions.
I actually think the coin-flipper is Aemond. The next shot in the trailer is edited as a connecting shot, and it's Alicent looking at Aemond at the far end of the small council table (with his back to the entrance of the room), then shifting her gaze to the person on the other end, which in all small council meetings in Season 1 has been the king. The person opposite the coin-flipper has a window behind him, and as far as I can recall, in all the small council meetings in Season 1 the windows in that room are behind the king and on the king's right. In all those small council meetings the ones on the king's left were always the Master of Law, the Archmaester, and the Master of Coin. But if one of them was the coin-flipper (and we can rule out Orwyle), then they would be opposite Alicent (at least that's what the edit suggests). That means the coin-flipper must be opposite the king. So far that position was always for the Master of Ships (first Corlys, later Tyland). But the Master of Ships position is vacant at this point, so who sits there? That's why I think they will slide Aemond into these meetings.
Possibly Aemond…doesn’t really matter is not a new character
@@thedragondemands5186 I know, but puzzles are fun! 😃
Also a testament to Ryan Condal's consistency in placement at that table. I like details like that.
If the funeral is like 1st episode an Jaece is there maybe he flew there from the Vale before going to winterfell as it would be to quick
I paused the video to put my question in so yes this makes sense
Today's the day!!
Team green, all hail king Aegon and Sunfyre the golden🐉💚💚
He's scenes with Sunfyre will be cool.
@@ChristisLORD2004
Cool & hot 😂😂 feel bad for the black fans who will watch it
Great swords such as Claymores weighed less than a baby. They could easily be wielded by people who are trained. Any 10-year-old child could lift a claymore could it be welded it's a different story. and since it's a magical sword weighing less than a normal sword it should be wielded in battle. Like the Claymore. They were British-Scottish officers fighting with Claymores in India.
I think they're going to omit nettles and give her role to one of daemon'@ daughters. Rhaena doesn't have a dragon. It would make sense it is her who claims sheepstealer. It would also make sense for her to have a connection to daemon, and even live with him if he survives the fight against aemond. Much more interesting than what happens in the books...
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Forgive me if you've already reported on this, but do we know why the show changed Corlys' illness to a war injury? The impression I got from the books was that he might've been poisoned to precipitate the Driftmark succession. Since the show loosely implied that Alicent was giving Viserys more milk of the poppy than he needed to ensure he'd miss the Driftmark petition so Otto could preside over it and rule in Vaemond's favor, it stood to reason that they might've also had Corlys poisoned; or the petition could've been something Alicent discussed with Larys and he took it upon himself to poison Corlys for her, similar to how he orchestrated the fire at Harrenhal to create the opening for Otto to get his job back. It's here nor there at this point; just something I'm curious about.
Dragon keep the love strong
Jace will arrive in winterfell in episode 3
Aegon the Gold dragon will rise this season , and we hope we get in depth into this character unlike S1 which reduced him to just a sexual harasser & drunk
I think the coin scene is Aemond..
The coin guy is whoever sits on the opposite end of Aegon. We know this because you can see Aegons Silhouette in the blurry background
…probably, but it’s so blurry l not sure
Omg spoilers for thr Red Wedding! How could you ;)
If daemon can sneak into kings landing through hidden tunnels, he should have brought like 20 men at arms. He could have killed all the greens away from their dragons. Then who challenges the blacks claim
They have their kingsguard whenever they’re out in the main city
@@thedragondemands5186 true, but the tunnels lead to rooms in the red keep. Why not sneak in aegon’s room while the kings guard are watching the door.
@@kenchin77777 book says Maegor’s Keep is too heavily guarded
didn't Condall say something about dragon droppings last year?
my bet is they'll find pieces of Arrax ad Luke in a mounnd of Vhagar dung
So unrealistic.
Whatever was left of Luke would have gotten flattened unrecognizably after hitting the water from that height.
@@DanLanningPRTeam ???? he said in dung vhagar ate luke and arrax is what fell
@@visupreme2757 did Vhagar land at Storms end and shit out Luke on the shore lol?
@@DanLanningPRTeam yes that would be the idea
@@DanLanningPRTeam I’m not saying that’s what’s gonna happen 💀just saying he didn’t mention anything about them finding Luke’s body in the ocean 🤓
I'd love a Rhaenyra video :c
I only split off the speculative ones - and “the end of season 2” video focuses on Alicent and Rhaenyra ( “Alicent’s proposal to partition Westeros”)
Your thoughts on Wake the Dragon's latest findings? #rhaenicent
Im also a recent subscriber to your channel - just appreciate the level of detail and promptness of your videos, especially when you hear news..😊
That was an April Fool’s joke
@@thedragondemands5186 brilliant!! Properly deceived and I humbly submit 😂
As far as blood and cheese goes if they got into the red keep so easily why didn’t they just try to kill anyone they could get ahold of like the king the queen Alicent ect? But I am super happy for this season
Not the deeper heavily guarded sections
Can you make a video on why we will never get Robert’s Rebellion?
I see so many people ask about this prequel but it is folly.
GRRM won’t allow it
@@thedragondemands5186 even when GRRM dies the show will never be made.
It makes GOT look like HOTD in terms of size of ensemble cast.
We will get it. Leading up to a Game Of Thrones remake. Probably in the next 10/15 years!
GRRM has clearly said that he doesn’t want to end his books and universe in confusion and doubts. He wants to reveal the great secrets that fans have been craving to know over the past 2 decades!
@@ChristisLORD2004 think about how many characters we have already seen that would have to be recast.
Robert, Ned, Jaime, Barristan, Tywin, Cersei, Stannis, Davos, Catelyn etc…
There is simply too many characters, and all of them having already been portrayed famously in GOT.
It’s a gargantuan task.
@@DanLanningPRTeam They're rebooting Harry Potter and a lot of famous fantasy novels that existed. I don't think that's impossible. Everything is possible in Hollywood. Specially HBO. ASOIAF is the only IP apart from DC that gives them the most amount of profit.
How can Luke have a corpse left? Vhagar swallowed him whole.
I saw a video an on Twitter Rhaenyra g o es in as a sept with food
Link?
@@thedragondemands5186what Link you mean
1:23 Rob dies???😨😩
Did you watch GOT?
I think the theory in the show was that dragons could only pass the wall following Bran, keeping some continuity with F&B. The Night King's mark, which broke the wight seal on Bloodraven's cave, could have had the same effect on the wall as Bran travelled through it- of course this was never elaborated on and was one of many magic-related plotlines abandoned by D&D.
As you say that’s just fanfic, didn’t actually give that explanation- and no, if Bran crossing south depowered the Wall…why would the White Walkers still need to BREAK THROGH the Wall with a dragon?
@@thedragondemands5186 Assuming the theory to be true, even if The Wall's magic defences had been disabled, it would still carry out its primary function of being a physical wall that stops things from getting past. The still manned (albeit lightly) NW castles were unlikely to allow the WW passage without resistance, likely motivating the NK to create a large gap in The Wall that would allow for the more efficient passage of a large number of wight troops than say funneling them through the tunnels. He probably (somehow) came to the conclusion that dragonfire was the easiest way of doing this. But yeah, on a meta level it was most likely just done for spectacle & visual symbolism 😭
I really hope Sara snow isn’t In the show
Why?
She is!
And it's important for the story going forward. It has connections with Winds Of Winter and upcoming Dunk & Egg novel.
@@ChristisLORD2004 how is it connected to winds of winter? I don’t think it is at all. His marriage to Sara was not the pact of ice and fire. The betrothal of Cregan daughter to Jaces son is
Really stretching to reach that 10 minute mark I see.
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He just really likes explaining his process and organization to his audience. Feels authentic so most of us actually like it.
@@lambeflores6456 research needs “citations”
But Otto talking about good of the realm is hypocritical.
But Rhaenyra DID care and he might have been able to manipulate that…up until Luke died
Other than continuing Septon Barth’s peace and maintaining peace throughout Viserys’s reign no matter how hard Viserys tried to screw it up.
Don’t forget that the single most peaceful time in Targaryen history was caused by greater acclamation to the Faith of the Seven and Andal culture.
The more the Targ’s forgot their Valyrian exceptionalism and focused more on becoming culturally Westerosi. The more peaceful it was for the realm.
Otto would have ushered in another century of peace between Aegon II and Jaehaerys II. Sometimes its all about image
It is so messed up that they aren't including Nettles yet and they aren't playing into the idea that "Adam" is Laenor in disguise. 🥸
…? I didn’t like the disguise theory. But Nettles and Daeron will be the big new hook foe Season 3
@@thedragondemands5186let’s be honest though what is the intrigue with Nettles?
It’s not like it was in the books, where for better or worse she was an icon for minority groups. A non-white character riding a dragon was something new and fresh.
Between Laenor, Laena, and Baela plus the seeds there is practically more non-white dragonriders than white dragonriders.
Unless you think people really love Nettles for her blood magic…
@@DanLanningPRTeam her being cut from the show would actually benefit the story unlike daeron imo. I think giving her stoyline to baela/rhaena and not have daemon cheat on his wife is a better fit lmao (Even though it might've not been the case with unreliable narrators)
@@visupreme2757 yeah it’s much better for painting Daemon as not a pedo.
Which is the only reason the showrunners waited until Rhaenyra aged up for him to smash.
@@DanLanningPRTeam the only way I can see this working is her challenging the notion that only people of Targaryen blood can ride dragon. She is the voice of the people in the book. When the battle of the gullet happens, the other seeds celebrate while she cries at all the death they wrought. Through her, you can see just how awful the cost of war is to the common man.
Also, the Targ dragon bonding. The entire point of their dynasty is that they're super special magical folks who are the only ones who can tame these medieval nukes. People of non-Valyrian blood will supposedly always fail (which we can kinda see from the Sowing of the Seeds). But, then Nettles comes along and takes a dragon-a girl of dubious parentage who may not be a seed at all, but a commoner. That is a signal to all the other people that yeah, they too could somehow get access to medieval nukes and that they may not have any reason to bow to the Targs anymore. Hill's Alive (a good ASOIAF yter with some interesting takes) theorized this is why Rhaenyra ordered her killed. So that the secret of her dragon taming didn't get out to the masses.