Mars Hydro FC-E4800 PAR Test and Review
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
- The New Mars Hydro FC-E4800 may be the perfect 4’ x 4’ grow light. I appreciate the high diode count, the adjustable bars, the way the diodes are distributed along the bars, and the simple elegance of the build. It is an innovative high-quality fixture, and micromole per micromole, it costs about 50% less than most competitors. In this video, I run the Mars Hydro FC-E4800 through 3 different PAR tests in 2 different Bar positions. It creates a great PAR map and has excellent efficiency.
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Lots of fun being apart of that live giveaway. Such great lights too. This diode placement and movable bars are 2 of the recent new light innovation that I enjoy. Both in one fixture. Great review, great work you put in doc💯💯🤘
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Thank you Dr Coco! You’re doing God’s work with these light reviews
@@ZafriusRasnake neither is doctor coco..he reviews lights from many different manufacturers and gets paid by no companies..no endorsement deals ..etc just raw data.
Great video man. I just bought this light for my 4x4 tent. I watched ur video and was able to put it together in like 5 minutes. This light is awesome imo. Thanks for all the info. Subscribed
Thank you ! I’ve been waiting for this kind of video !!! 👌👌👌
This is my favorite video from this channel so far! Very informative and thorough. Not to mention the awesome giveaway that happened during the live premiere!! 😀
I hear they are doing big things over at cfc...u should check it out! 😉🤣🤣🤣
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Thanks you good sir. Made my choice on this review. I love how the long cord can keep the driver out of the tent. Heat will be minimal.
Thanks Very much for another great video and giveaway Dr MJ Coco!
Excellent 👌 Much appreciated we are considering this for the Dank Dungeon !
Great video bro. Never thought id be buying a mars hydro. Dont forget a 4x4 tent gonna bring up the ppfd about 100 on the sides
What??what?? Doc! You’re amazing. I give thanks for you and for CFC! 💚
Congrats growmie..the universe gives back to the righteous!
@@Smotpoker thanks, buddy! I appreciate it
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Thx Doc for great video as always!
Thankyou so much for the discount code! It took $20 off the total price : )
Great idea Doc, glad i could be here to witness it :)
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i love how you rip them apart :D thanks!
We LOVE our Mars hydro lights.
Great video, cheers from Poland!
Love the theory in rasing the light, yields increase.
I agree, the better distribution is well worth what I call a negligible loss.
Excellent review and test!
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I just bought one with a Christmas sale for $370! I’m excited about this grow season.
Nice review. I have mine connected to a smart plug because the timer and scheduling through the app has never worked. But i do like the output so far.
Appreciate the info Doc 💚
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I run mine at 24" of the canopy, in a 4x4. If I run it above 75% it's way too much for the plants, in flower. Cheers great video
FC E4800 and although it went together well it contained no manual or any other documentation. When I asked for help with that the just sent me a link to what was essentially a marketing add. I’m not doubtful about the light working, but for what I paid I sure would’ve liked the manual and stickers…lol…thank you doctor.
Awesome looking lights!
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Awesome light
Cool. Appreciated as usual..
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Got this light in a 3×3 and they love it
That sounds amazing. Can you tell me how far away 50k lux is at 100% with the door closed?🙏
No I wish I did
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@@olysean92 lux is not a measurement that is compatible with led lighting, ppfd is. Lux is brightness as perceived by the human eye. Ppfd is photons in the par range that are responsible for photosynthesis.
@@Smotpoker oh I am very familiar. If OP had a $500 Apogee I'm sure he'd offer ppfd instead. But I figured I'd have a better chance of OP having a $30 lux meter, and I can get the rest into the ballpark from there.
Let's get it great review
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great video . thank you
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Dr. CoCo , it’s always a pleasure watching your videos.
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My question is,
Can you do a Par test on the Mars Hydro FC-E4800 in a 3x3 tent in measurements of 12” / 18” / 24” / 36” and 48” all at full power.
I know it might be much to ask for but I would really appreciate it.
If you can’t make a video about it just running the test and posting it on the mjcoco website would be awesome also
Thank you Dr. CoCo
Sucks i missed the darn giveaway but, hey awesome review regardless
That was a real detailed review right there 👌. By any chance can you make a comparison video of FC - 4800 Vs FC - E4800. I think many would love to see that video. Thanks for making our decisions easier 😊.
Yes fr man
One has ir and uv diodes and the other doesn't. One folds the other you assemble.
I like the spread bar type of light much better than the large quantum-style board. Seems the lighting by being spread evenly across the bars is more efficient in penetrating through the canopy and with better heat dissipation.
Another great and thorough light review! Thanks Dr. Coco.
Have purchased this light as a 4x4 kit. I also have ts1000 2x2 and tsw2000 4x4 .. I'm excited to get this tent and light combo up and running
How do you like this light compared to the tsw2000 in a 4x4?
@@FFSickoSquidare you using a tsw2000 in a 4x4 ? If so how’s that going ?
@@markanthony2015 it has been great in 4x4
Nice light !!!
Great video
Spider farmer now makes a light similar to this, cant wait to see the review and comparison to that.
I was at work when you were live
I ended up buying this light, great videos you have here. I am a very interested about spectrum. getting the right amount of uv, blue, green , red, far red and the ability to add extra far red and uv. aside from getting a more natural spectrum ratio I like to blast the plants with far red and or uv for around a hour a day to promote secondary metabolites. Also the amount of heat these put out is crazy, at least without comparing to other lights. can we get more infoon things that also effect our grows. Thanks again, grower love!
Mars needs an "FC-R" version, this exact same light but where the light bars can also rotate a few degrees within the frame, would throw more PAR to the walls.
Love the vids bro....can you do a par test on the UPDAYDAY UD-4000 LED light if you can...keep'em comin
628 is magical
looks like I have a new item to add to my wishlist
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Ganja Gods bless me with the FC-E4800.
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First review that I actually listened to find beneficial.
Cheers dude..
When's the raffle going to be done?
I reckon 269 is a good one.
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This whole videos about 13" and 16" away from cabopy best par levels. I tried your 16" from canopy. Burnt the living fuck out of my plants. Bleeched them conpletely all the plants in the middle. I even made sure the leaf temperature was less than ambient room temp
Were wateered ever 3 days. These lights are fucking garbage because they cant be used for the par levels you suggested at the height you suggested. Ill have to run them at 20" maybe 22" to prevent bllech8ng. Which means your whole video is bullshit.
@@MurdahBassRecords Garbage because the light is too powerful? What's the problem running a higher height or dimming more at the level that pissed you off?
@@stangcobra592 garbage because followed advice of hanging height for best par levels of 2 light that i bought strictly because of this vid. And you cant even run the fucking things at the sughested heights in this video. It took me bleeching my plants and getting half the yeild from poor photosynth. To figure it out. 3 months down the fucki g drain on 18 plants got me pissed. Do i need to break it down more for you or do you get the core concept now?
Hey Mr. Coco I have kind of an important question regarding these lights versus the FC E6500. Apparently these smaller E-Series lights include IR and one other Spectrum that the FC-E6500 does not. I have two separate 10 x 10 grow spaces and I'm trying to decide between 8 of the FC E6500s or 12 of the FC E4800s. I'm also trying to fit nine rather large plants in each 10x10 grow space. Any suggestions? Thanks!
PS. I'm curious to know if the loss of IR and the 380-410nm Spectrum is a major deal or not.
I would not worry about the IR and the UV. I would probably go with the 6500s and if you want to add supplemental IR or UV you can do that with separate fixtures. I think the main thing you want from a grow light is PAR Flux! Grower Love
@@DrMJCoco hey thanks a lot for the reply I appreciate it. I already have 10 of the fce 6500 here I'm going to use two of them for the veg room and I was going to use 8 for flower but with the lack of ir I was thinking maybe I could put two in the middle on each side and then surround them by 4 fce 4800s for a total of 12 lights 6 on each side. I haven't looked into any IR ruv supplementation not sure if that's expensive or if it's a large power draw in anyway or not.
Mine did not come with stickers.........but this set up is a beast.......on my first run and so far my lady's have grown twice as fast
Thanx for this great Video! I buy this lamp!😂😉👍🥳😇
I have a 4x4 tent do you think the FE6500 would do better than the FE4800 I'm not worried about price I just want max brightness and yield?
Everyone good luck!
Big up , Mars Hydro! Thank you for the amazing prize!!!
@@knahhank9707 Appreciate it man!
Dr. Coco, can you review the Phlizon FD4500? I need to know how comparable it is to this light.
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I’m thinking about switching my HLG-600W out for these in my 4x4. Would you recommend it?
Great job bro! Could you test the Viparspecrta XS4000 ?
Bought this light on Black Friday for $455.00 and put it Ina 40x 40 tent that has only a 2 inch gap all the way round the outside edge of the grow tent....this gives me a little more room but not a big gap between light and tent.. maximizing the light..A 36 x 36 grow tent is snug with the light and would do great with this light but the extra space in the 40x 40 is perfect this light.Should yield big dense buds in this setup....
Hey, am. Thinking of getting this light, did u have issues keeping the heat down?
@@todgerx not so far…got 2 clamp on 6” fans blowing in tent with the 4” mars hydro ventilation system with thermostat controller..
@@allenwilliams6561 hey thanks for the reply. Which devices do u have hooked up to thermostat? Is it just a heater that turns on and off? I haven't done this much lol..
@@todgerx not a heater..your light is typically your heat source in your tent…good in winter..,bad in summer..when you buy a ventilation system for your grow tent, it pulls the old air out of the tent and pulls less air inside anyway the ventilation system either comes with a low, medium, high fan controller that you will leave on all the time or you can get the upgrade that has a temperature/ humidity controller that you set the ranges of the temperature and humidity that will turn on the ventilation fan on similar to an AC/ Heat system turns on when you environment inside is out of the ranges you had set it stand then turns off when the conditions are in the ranges you have set….which in the long run will save you money on your power bill by just turning on when your plants need it too…now it cost another $40 maybe less but it will pay for itself in the long run because the other system will run constantly….a good investment to keep your grow tent environment at optimal temperature and humidity at all times especially when you are gone out….check it out…Utube it…but for me it was worth the little extra and like I said it will pay for itself…
I have a Mars hydro tsw2000 a maxsisun pb2000 pro a 24 inch sun blaster 6400k led bar and a fiet electric 30 watt selectable spectrum led and a 13 watt reptile uvb light in a 4x4 what sort of ppfd should I see with everything at 18 inches from canopy?
It would be an advantage if you could adjust the angle of the outer LED bars a bit, so you could better illuminate the outer corners of the tent or area. Would be an idea, or maybe 2 additional bars that could be turned outwards at an angle so that they would shine into the corners of the tent or the area....
It seems like the LED arrangement is skewed towards getting good results on 4x4 tests and tents. I’m not so sure this distribution would be good for large rooms or racks (which do not have reflective walls). I’d love to see this discussed.
where do you get the black mat w/ squares that you use?
Did you find much of a difference between the fc and the fc-e lights?
Please do a review of some high end LED lights , such as "Aelius" ! Thank you
Some companies like fluence really don't need any product endorsement, they are the gold standard and always ahead of the pack. Alot of these companies solely market to commercial grows also. The good doc only tests lights that are sent to him..some of these higher end companies have no interest in doing so. I bought my own apogee meter to have first hand knowledge. Grower love
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People using this light in a 4x4. What was your yield and how many plants? I just got this bad boy and I’m excited to run 4 plants in it. :) ❤❤
How did it go ?
looks like a 3x3 light, can you do the medic grow 1000W in a 5x5? I'd love to see the perfect heights on those, I appreciate your in-depth reviews
Use it in a 4x4 tent and the ppfd on the sides jumps up 100 or more with the mylar reflection
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Nice 2 should be nice I bet
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So in the end do you prefer position 1 or position 2?
Really tough getting past cost on this light, not a Mars fan, but half price of most
Question: why does it seem like using light rails a thing of the past? All the YT videos using rails is 3-5 years old and use HPS. Seems to me a bar type LED on rails could maximize a larger space with better yields at lower cost per watt and could also be placed closer to the canopy.
Most people used them before to have less heat and maximize the space using hid. In today's led market there is such good distribution with minimal height and low wattage =low heat. It makes it pretty impractical....esp when you lose more height,+the extra costs and task that go along with them. This is a great question and hopefully the doc will come by and chime in too. I do however know a cocoforcannabis.com member named Choo who uses a chilled x600 on a mover , pushing 1200umols ..with fantastic results..note* his ceiling is like 15ft lol... grower love n great comment!
Yes I use the covert led-x 500 series and let me tell u from beginning to about 30days in to flower Ina rdwc 5x5 I got 7 ft monsters on gg4 strain
With this test I know what to do for flower but for veg I can dim it to 31 % at 24 inches to get higher veg numbers.
I summon the Magical Power of the Ganja gods!
What are your thoughts of cramming that into a 3x3
How would you say this compares to the Spider Farmer SE5000?
What hight and power level would you set this light for veg??
I wonder if that light would be good in a 3/3 tent
Would this be not enough for a 5x5 grow tent?
Yeah, it is not enough for the best density in a 5x5. I would recommend the FC-E6500 or FC-E8000. Grower Love
UPS just dropped off my FC E4800's 10 minutes ago!!
How can I daisy chain and control these with the trolmaster? Is it possible
480 watts is the minimum to call 4x4 "fully lit," so good for Mars bringing the E line in this class. But have you seen what Dr Coco did with 2x SP3KS in a 4x4? At $10/g, just the difference in yield pays off the SPs and then some every harvest.🤷♂️
I would definitely disagree with 480 watts being a "watt minimum " for two reasons, 1- watts isn't a measurement of the amount of light in the tent, the important thing is how efficiently a light can turn electricity into par photons.. I grow autos in a 4x4 using a 330watt fluence spydr 2x / and a chilled Growcraft Ultra x3 prototype type #1 (also 330 watts check out dr coco review). And we're getting 2lbs from 4 plants grow after grow. Please check out my RUclips or ig or my journals at cocoforcannabis.com I always enjoy talking lighting!
1 -330 watt light per tent...I guess my last paragraph could be misinterpreted as both lights in 1.
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Whats rhe sp3ks? I cant find it under that abbreviation, am i blind or does no one use that abbreviation u used?
So my question is which is the better of the two,
FC-E 4800 OR FC 4800
how long for response I paid light for last week and have not heard a thing from mars hydro
Is that ideal hanging height of 13" with the light at 100%, and does that height pertain to veg, flower, or both? Thanks for this awesome video, which is the reason reason I pulled the trigger on buying this light!
Veg doesn’t need as much intensity as flower
Hopefully I get lucky 🙏
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This one is underrated, I believe once you start the flowering stage, or even veg, the 730-740nm far red is what will make the difference with yield. If you watch the research done by Professor Bruce Bugbee on far red, all the plants ended up with higher yield. Factoring in CO2 and proper nutrition, the harvest potential should be on par with the FC-E6500 (I don’t think the E6500 has 730-740nm lights).
Yeah the fce6500 is a veg light. No IR or UV Diodes
@@randomstranger2472 I would like to think that you would be wrong. But I am not positive. Though those Ir & uv LED’s are what help make the light full spectrum.
Perhaps @migro has more info on it.
I can say that my trichome level on my plants under the led lights I use is greater than under my hps. But not more than my CMH.
I just bought 12 pc 3000 on your review a few weeks ago . I have another room to fill would you still pick the pc 3000s over several of these ! Seems real hard to beat the 3000 in price and coverage is why I chose them . ( after watching your video of light distribution with them !
At cocoforcannabis.com we have a growlight calculator...depending on your room size (Inc height) there may be a more efficient way to set it up and a better cost per umol, but I also think you cannot go wrong with a room full of sp3000s lol
What's the difference between the fc model and fce model? Just the technology on the diodes?
Higher range of red light spectrum mainly which is good for yield and slightly higher efficiency I think.
Is this light to much for 3x3 space ?
Would this be overkill to flower in a 3x3?
Yes, but you could run it dim. It will fit in a 3x3.
Please test Floraflex's new light next
Hi iv just got myself the fc-e4800. When I was putting it together I noticed the light bars are different. You have 3 A bars and 3 B bars. The difference in the bars is the ir diodes and the infrared diodes are in different places. I contacted mars hydro customer service about how to place these bars and in witch order. I received an email back saying the bars should be placed A,B,A,B,A,B. There is nothing in there user manual stating this. Or on any reviews that I have seen. Please contact marshydro yourself to confirm this information and maybe do an update on your review. Because surely with the difference in diode placement it would have an over all affect on light quality. Just thought I would say something as I feel this information to be important. There must be thousands of lights out there that aren't set up properly and not getting the quality of light the light is capable of.
I never paid attention but I been doing good with mine 3rd grow with some really good harvest. Lights come on in 20 mine I'm going to look and see where mine are..thanka
Sp3000 x 2 👌
I pick number 458
I would love to win
Mars Hydro recommends keeping this light at 6 inches from canopy during late flower! What do you think of that?
It is a good question! I actually spoke to them about that. I thought it was nuts. Turns out, those recommendations are meant for grows with supplemental CO2 and a higher PPFD limit. I agree that they should explain that. I have an FC-6500 that I plan to test according to their recommendations and we'll see what PPFD they produce. Grower Love
test the Photontek 465W 😬
Would you still be able to use this in a 5x5
You can, but it will not be enough light to get the best production or the best quality in a 5x5 space. I would get the 6500 or 8000 for use in a 5x5, but the 4800 is perfect for 4x4. Grower Love
Please test the Optic 650 S ??
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Please do a covert led x500