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Calvinism Refuted: Pastor Charles Lawson on Salvation in Gospel of John
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- Опубликовано: 18 авг 2024
- A great preaching on salvation as described in the Gospel of John refuting Calvinism and the false doctrine of Predeterminism, that only the elect will be saved. Calvinism TULIP is a false doctrine. Also preaching debunking the Gnostic Gospels and various blasphemous Biblical distortions of the ages.
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The Lord lead me to this man a few years back. Nobody told me about this man of God. His compassion and love for God and the brethren is evident. May God bless and protect him.
Adrian Roger has passed away,
David hunt has passed away,
Chuck missler has passed away,
But we still have charles lawson,
Thank you lord for him .
Dave Hunt.👍
Yankee Arnold, as well!
@@winterpatriot1429Has Yankee Arnold passed away?
Chuck Missler and Michael Heiser were my favorite pastors / theologians. Heiser just passed away earlier this year.
I haven't seen a lot from Charles Lawson, but I've agreed with almost everything I have seen from him.
@@N.i.E.M.O please check out Charles Lawson , A and O production has some of his best, and sermon jam, also has some of his best.
Calvinism has always disturbed my soul, burdened my spirit. It is not Biblical. Denying the love of God to the world. Denying that Jesus Christ died for the sins of the world and stating that Jesus only died for some. Stating God does not love some but made them vessels of destruction and wrath. Abusing scripture for a manmade philosophy. Beware of Calvinism. Jesus Christ of Nazareth is the only way to salvation and forgiveness of sins. Believe in Him.
Just read your post. You are so RIGHT.
CHRIST died for all and all can be saved if they just believe the gospel
God THANK YOU for leading me to this pastor. Thank you Jesus!
What an incredible sermon! Jesus is King and I owe Him my life, amen.
Yes! I love Charles Lawson. What a blessing.
I’m a black woman & I approve this message! God bless his Holy truth !
God doesn't see race, sister!
Believers are one in Christ.
Love you!!
My favorite pastor God Almighty bless shine his face upon this incredible man of God and his family and loved ones always ❤️🙏🤗
Amen!
I’ve been trying to understand if some of the main doctrines of Calvinism was biblical and I found this teacher and this teaching. Thank you 🙏 lord Jesus.
If you're still unsure about this or want to learn more about it, I can point you to some other good channels that talk a lot about Calvinism. I think this is a much bigger deal than some people realize, too; it's one of the most anti-gospel ideologies that is seen as actually part of Christianity.
It is flipping huge. I have friends caught up in this nonsense. There are people who make a lot of money publishing books based on nonsense like the marriage of Luther, or more reading about other Reformed personalities who in my opinion aren't worth the time to write about. @@zzevonplant
I certainly believe in Jesus Christ only as my savor. Not john Calvin.
Not even Calvinists believe that John Calvin is the savior. Do people ever accuse Wesleyans of believing that Wesley is their Savior? Or Baptists believing that baptism is their Savior? Honestly, when people say "I follow Jesus Christ and not John Calvin" it shows that they really haven't done their homework or thought about this issue in any meaningful way.
Pastor Lawson, you are a great comfort to me. I thank the precious Lord for raising you up because you preach God's Word in Spirit and Truth. You bring the Gospel message great life from the Holy Scriptures. Love to You Brother!✝🙏
Powerful message and teaching tonight. I got it all down scripture by scripture underlined and marked in yellow with notes. thank you so much
Okay, you just hit my number one Bible commentary channel!!! Your claim that this man is the best preacher in America, shot you past any caution, as I found you just this last week, and loved your videos! I asked for discernment, and here we are, discerned and it is well!
Welcome! That is great news. I'm glad we have both found Pastor Lawson to have been such a great blessing. I'm been watching his sermons, eager for each new week, for years now! He is not preaching as regularly and as often these days sadly as he has been dealing with a lot of health problems. But still, when I hear people say they never heard of Pastor Charles Lawson I give that look like they just said they never heard of ice cream or something like that. I tell them they have been missing out! It's certainly a great thing that the one channel zion4131 has been so faithfully capturing and uploading all his sermons for so many years. God bless you!
I love this Pastor!
This man is brilliant!
very good message from a great preacher! Nice job brother! Thanks for sharing the truth!
Brian, I wrote a comment to Pastor Lawson, literally forgetting you posted it yourself on your channel. Thanks so much for re-posting his message! A great blessing, I needed this morning! Love to You Too Brother! 👍🙏
Calvinism and J W are the best at twisting scriptures and they are both cults .
@user-p239m7 l believe John Calvin and Jacob arminiam are both in hell .
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I am a Calvinist, but I generally don't recognize what this speaker is talking about. I think fundamentalism is being besieged by the secular culture and many of the smaller congregations are losing members. At the Council of Trent the main target of the Catholic church against Grace Alone was not propping up indulgences, nor was it arguments for the authority of the Pope, the chief charge was against assurance of salvation(Justification by Faith Alone). Even if you disagree with Calvinism you should teach your people to act as if they were saved, which certainly means that they should believe that they are saved(the Elect). Don't be afraid to call yourself of the "elect", it just means that you are born again. There is no hocus pocus about this word. If you are not born again, then no one can say that they are among the elect.
Have you ever heard of a Calvinist congregation that calls itself "The First Church of the Elect" ? I haven't. Calvinists don't toss that word around too often. We don't claim to have an elect serial number sealed into our soul. It can be amusing to listen to anti-Calvinist speakers talk about things that the Calvinist never talks about, as if they know more about Calvinism than the Reformed pastors. You don't need to do that, but I think these messages are preaching to within their own fundamentalist congregations and not so much to reformed churches.
From Trent:
"If anyone says that the sinner is justified by faith alone, meaning that nothing else is required to cooperate in order to obtain the grace of justification, and that it is not in any way necessary that he be prepared and disposed by the action of his own will, let him be anathema."
Martin Luther's Treatise on the Bondage of the Will is more "Calvinist" than John Calvin's writing. I am Calvinist, but I don't delve into the secret things and build a scaffold of non Biblical doctrines from my imagination. Many of the arguments that the anti-Calvinist makes against Calvinism are the same old arguments that the Catholic Church made in Luther's time.
“The secret things belong to the Lord our God, but the things that are revealed belong to us and to our children forever, that we may do all the words of this law.. Deuteronomy 29:29
Well said Timothy Keith.
Absolutely agreed. ''Faith on Fire'' so called..is doing the devil's work for him...
If you're a Calvinist, how do you know you're not one of the damned, yourself!!!??? If God gives no choice to people then He certainly could make you believe you are one of the "elect", when in fact you may be going to he'll. Maybe He does this so that one of the truly "elect" cam be saved. In this theology, where does the madness stop??
@@stevegold7307 Jesus clearly has told us that ONLY the elect the chosen the saved can declare Him Lord. Unsaved people do not claim that… and Christians regardless of doctrine will claim Jesus is God. 🥰 and what this man is forgetting is that ALL are headed to hell that NONE would seek God. We are saved by faith aloneand where does this faith come from? Comes from God. From before the creation of this world while He was forming us He chose some to save and give faith to. Makes people mad but God didn’t have to save any of us but He did. It was a gift to give us life here in earth and he has blessed the wicked right along with His sheep.don’t forget He has also told us Satan has children down here as well. He is not obligated to give any of us life after death. And He will save who He chooses. It’s all according to His Will not ours. And this pastor says we have to be “born again”. God uses term because we understand it. We had no choice to be born in the flesh and we had no choice to be born of the spirit. And we were adopted into Him. He also uses this term because we understand it. Children don’t pick choose and adopt adults. They have no say.God has created picked and chosen those who will be adopted and we r to give thanks for each other that we were chosen! We didn’t choose God we didn’t pick God. We didn’t seek God He choose seeked and saved us according to HIS WILL not ours. I think the reasons humans don’t like this is because we “think” God should choose everyone right? But do we really really believe that? No we don’t we don’t want murders and pedophiles and satans children ect getting chosen. We don’t. And if we r really honest we don’t even really want people we hate getting chosen. And that is why God is God and we trust in Him!! Not ourselves. Jesus said His sheep know His voice. So we share the truth about how we got here we share what Jesus did for us and HIS SHEEP will HEAR His voice! And God will either give the increase or not. And we don’t know which ..we just share. And we don’t look up at God say what have you done?? He has designed some pots for glory and some for destruction. Wanna be hated ? This is what Jesus was telling them and they got mad and water Him dead. . He said to them u don’t understand me because u are not my sheep. There are sheep and goats and a goat cannot be a sheep and a sheep was NEVER a goat. And that is how I have absolute assurance in my salvation. Because I had nothing to do with it. He saved me. I didn’t save myself and nothing I can do will change that. So I do preach the good news of Jesus. Do I tell people they might be a goat? Of course not . But the gospel is foolish to those who are perishing. So I spread it God will give the increase. I fully trust Him. U believe in predestination because there is just to many scriptures and stories that prove it. But I’m not a Calvinist because no works is added to be saved. Not being baptized not picking the right denomination not even works of my seeking God and believing it’s ALL on Him. And I am thankful for all my brothers and sister in Christ that as vile as we are He chose to to save us and for that I will ALWAYS be grateful to Him!
There are different versions of Calvinism and while some, like RC Sproul did seem to cram a lot of election and predestination talk, it's true that most of the big name Calvinists today (John Piper, John MacArthur, Voddie Bachum, etc) don't really talk about Calvinism in all of their sermons, they will not shy away from it when the topic comes up (which makes sense, to be fair). But in a way, I feel this just proves the inconsistencies with Calvinist doctrine. The natural assumption one would make from predestination via arbitrary election "before the foundation of the world" is that there is no point in even evangelizing because salvation is already pre-ordained and nothing we say or do can change that. Now I do acknowledge that not all Calvinists believe in 'double-predestination' or in the total lack of free-will, but all Calvinist doctrine is based on election.
There are just too many issues with this line of thought and too many verses in the Bible that clearly seem to point to free-will and God's entire purpose for creating man is precisely for man to be able to freely choose him, thus professing genuine love for him just as he loves us. After all, if the only way anyone can express love for God is solely from God literally forcing us to do so, it isn't really genuine love - it just makes us a robot / under a 'spell'.
Now don't get me wrong, I still have respect for people like Piper, MacArthur, Sproul, etc, and I do believe they are very smart men, and I do see the appeal in determinism, as it does lift a lot of the weight of the troubles and worries in our lives and the world at large if God is literally dictating absolutely everything that happens including our own thoughts. It even lifts the weight of sin - I mean, I may have sinned, but -the devil- God made me do it?
And that's the dilemma. How can God be innocent of sin if he ordains it? Was Hitler innocent of the Holocaust simply because he didn't specifically cause these deaths with his own hands? And im sorry but, "It's just a mystery, do not question God" is not a sufficient answer for me. And if that sounds 'blasphemous' it's not like I had a choice or anything. God apparently ordained me to feel this way.
Maybe I'm not even 'saved' at all? Are non-Calvinists even truly 'elect'? And if we are, why would God implement such confusion amongst his chosen elect? For what purpose? Are we just characters in a really confusing play - our free-will an illusion?
Calvinism is the antigospel.
It's not even an exaggeration. It quite literally nullifies any purpose in the gospel.
No sooner than the last apostle passed away, Satan started in on the Church.
He has brought all kinds of false teaching against the true believers of Jesus,
the Son of God, who ONLY spoke what His Father commanded Him to speak.
Deceit is everywhere. There is ONLY Jesus, and those who receive His words.
Thank you Brian, for sharing Charles Lawson powerful preaching.
Do you know if has teaching on what the elect actually means? Peace of Jesus be with you love in Christ Jesus❤
Amen I listened to every message message from pastor Lawson I live in Sweetwater Tennessee about 50 miles from Temple Baptist.
I am in Orlando, FL. I have been watching his sermons every week since 2013 when I found him on RUclips on the zion4131 channel. Thank God for RUclips! For all the problems and evil on the Internet, there is at least the good stuff too.
Amen! Great sermon!
The following was stated somewhere around the18 minute mark of this video: "Salvation is of the Lord, and it is not in the hands of men." To this I say, Yes!!! Pastor Lawson, are you sure you're not a Calvinist?
This may surprise you because so much disinformation comes from Calvinists against those who disagree with the Doctrine of Election that non-Calvinists Christians understand that we can't save ourselves. We trust God's Word and believe. Romans 1: 16 says the Gospel is the power of God unto salvation. The good news is that the Gospel that saves is available to whosoever believes in Christ in accordance with Scripture. We can't transfer our souls from darkness to light, God does that. We can't force God to give us a new heart or force the Holy Spirit to indwell us. We don't bring ourselves from dead in sins to alive in Christ. This is all the gift of grace from God through faith Eph 2: 8,9). Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved. That is a promise given in God's Word. You either trust in God's Word or you trust in something else, like yourself or perhaps in religious elitism like doctrines of man and some systematic religion written by uninspired men, rather than the inspired writers of Scripture. Calvinism is 100% false. Believe the Bible, not cherry picked prooftexts that are really misinterpreted to uphold the real source of Calvinistic belief, their systematic religion.
@@faithonfireministries Don't kid yourself. We all have our proof texts, and mine are much better than yours.
@@christopherbocciardi4292 Why is it you Calvinists speak as if you are not indwelt by anything but your own spirit?
@@dankmartin6510 Is Dank your real name?
@@christopherbocciardi4292 do you have a better response than that after two days?
I pretty sure none of the Ante-Nicene fathers taught once saved always saved either though
If you can't be once saved you can't be ever saved. If salvation isn't good enough the first time you believe, it won't ever be. It seems a lot of people believe in OLAL - Once Lost, Always Lost. As in, if you stumble even once after believing in Christ, you are damned to hell for eternity. That makes zero sense. The blood of Jesus is eternally powerful to save you once for all.
Maybe because they figured it was common sense, and that some heretics wouldn’t come along one day and claim salvation could be lost. 🤷♂️
OSAS is a Biblical Fact. And facts don’t care about feelings.
The scriptures teach once born-again (saved) Always born-again (saved)
Hebrews 6, 10; 2 Peter 2; Jude, Revelation 1-3…
@@brb1050 What about them??
When I first heard and understood the doctrine of calvanism I new within my heart that it was an evil man made doctrine which preached another Jesus.
A WONDERFUL PREACHER AND MESSAGE !!!!!!!--------------------------------------Ernest E. Johnson
My man you literally teach one of the points of calvinism.
Which one is that? Genuinely asking.
@@N.i.E.M.O once saved always saved or “eternal security” as it’s referred to in most circles.
Eternal security is Biblical if you're truly a believer, if your faith is Genuine.
Great message.
Yes it is. Pastor Lawson is great!
16:30 AMEN! good stuff preacher Lawson!!
The will of man remains omnipotent!
Yet another misrepresentation of reformed theology. If you don’t understand the doctrine you’re denying, don’t speak of it. Otherwise you would be slandering the brethren.
Through thy precepts I get understanding: therefore I hate every false way.
{Psalm 119:104}
There is nothing reformed about that satanic gospel from the cult of Calvin.
@@larrybedouin2921 why is it a cult? So Calvinists aren’t your brothers in Christ?
@@michaelblanco6665 I'm not a Calvinist. You tell me.
What did he say that misrepresented Reformed Theology?
Let the Holy Spirit teach us In all truth. Let God be true and every man a lier.
John 3:17 directly refutes Calvinism. It state Kosmos (the world / all of humanity) Sozo subjunctive mood (might be saved, has the ability possibility and potentiality to believe).
This directly refutes total inability and unconditional election thus all of calvinism.
This guy totally misrepresents the Calvinest view. Not sure if it is on purpose or if he is just ignorant.
How so?
If the Election wasn't important to the Revelation of Salvation. Jesus would not have said " if the were possible even the very elect would be deceived". The Key word is IF. There is also no progression of the Gospel because it was ONLY given m to the Apostles. There is only the Word of the Apostles not the Nicenens or anyone else. Acts 1:2 is clear the commandments of Christ was given to the Apostles by the Holy Spirit. That's why you need the Holy Spirit to understand the scriptures not mere study or just "believing". John is the Revelation of Jesus Christ revealing Himself as the Son of GOD.
Nonsense. Go and preach the gospel to whoever believes in me should be saved. That is all. who is John Calvin to create a new and so harmful doctrine? Calvinism playing to be God.
Great teaching!
Glad you think so!
Amen! And yeah... if there's another preacher as good as Charles Lawson.. he hasn't been discovered yet lol.
Yes, he is my favorite! I've been watching him for years and I am so grateful to the RUclips channel zion4131 that has faithfully recorded every livestream from Temple Baptist Church for years now and then uploaded the sermon portion of the service to their RUclips channel. Its been quite a blessing.
@@faithonfireministries I've been watching him for almost a year I'd say. I was listening to his teachings from like..6 years ago and he was on point then! God bless him! When he mentions those watching on RUclips I'm like "yeah brother we're with you" lol.
Joseph Prince teaches the grace message with great clarity and anointing.
@@janiliebenberg4407 isn't he a prosperity preacher?
@@ducky1115Ya, I remember him. I never listened to prosperity preachers in the first place. I listened to very few preachers.
The essence of true "Calvinism," which existed before John Calvin, is "Salvation is of the LORD" (Jonah 2:9).
Salvation is of the Lord and no Bible believing Christian disagrees with that, but the essence of Calvinism is the rejection of the Scripture for false Gnostic philosophies that infiltrated Christianity since Augustine and have led many people astray ever since.
@@faithonfireministries You have a misunderstanding of "Calvinism," a term I personally don't care for because it suggests that the system of doctrine it represents is indebted to one man. A better way to characterize this system is the doctrines of grace. "Salvation is of the LORD" (Jonah 2:9). True Reformed Christians affirm the absolute authority, inerrancy, and sufficiency of Scripture. However, to give you a chance to defend your claim, could you please provide a tangible example or two of how those who adhere to the doctrines of grace reject Scripture for false Gnostic philosophies.
Calvinism, like Armeniansm are man-made doctrines. Both are creating deep divisions within the Body of Christ. So, by definition, both are dangerous.
@@graceisaweapon It depends on what you mean by Calvinism. The Bible does teach a system of doctrine. Hostility to that notion comes from 19th century secular thought.
@@derkardinal9781 If the Bible taught calvinism the average person would be able to perceive it without needing a calvinistic pharisee to eisegete it out and elucidate it for them.
Nobody... or should I say very few... come to the idea of total inability without being indoctrinated into it. It's just simply not in the Bible. You could say it's implied in some verses, but you would have to totally ignore or completely twist other verses until they're unrecognizable just to make it fit. It's a damnable heresy and I can't understand for the life of me why anyone would believe it unless they were introduced to Christianity by calvinists and they've never heard anyone else preach. Even then I would think it would ring alarm bells in most people.
I would look into the "Soteriology" channel here on RUclips if you haven't heard the other side of the argument. It's quite easy to see where calvinists are going wrong if you have a competent person to walk you through it.
I dearly do love preachers like this. But he is confused on the doctrine of election. He said in the sermon "salvation is in the hands of God, not of man". This is the truth of election. I think that people are confused severely on this doctrine. If anyone seeks salvation he is not denied because he is not elect. He is in fact demonstrating that he is elect.
Salvation is in the hands of God and God has made salvation available to every person through His Son Jesus Christ... That is what Pastor Lawson is saying, and has always said. That is why we call it the good news of the Gospel which shall be proclaimed all over the earth. If you put the Calvinistic doctrine of election to the test in Scripture it does not hold up, and if you listen to anyone explain it they often heavily rely on the writings of uninspired philosophers to do so, or they distort prooftexts in Scripture to uphold the philosophies of Augustine and John Calvin, rather than the inspired writers of Scripture. Worse yet, those who defend the doctrine of election don't seem to realize that they explain the characteristics of God and include the characteristics of Satan, attributing the Devil's actions and desires to God's actions and desires which is a tremendous blasphemy against God the Father, Jesus the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
Greater theologians have preached predestination
Using kjv
Modern versions diminish the
Doctrine of election!
ISAIAH NKJV CH: 56:6 - "⁶... _Everyone_ who keeps from defiling the Sabbath, and holds fast My covenant ⁷even them I will bring to My holy mountain and make them joyful in my house of prayer. Their burnt offerings and their sacrifices _will_ be accepted on my altar; for My house shall be called a house of prayer for all nations. ⁸The Lord God, who gathers the outcasts of Israel, says, "yet I will gather to him _others_ besides those who are gathered to him."
Now, whether your read every single verse beforehand or afterwards, it all is _lovingly_ clear, that _all_ people, foreign and otherwise, who believe in the Lord God, who gave us His son, in the place of any and all of our burnt offerings and sacrifices, the Lord Jesus Christ, are welcome not only in His house of prayer, but _will_ feel the joys of salvation!!! Pastor Charles is correct! The word elect is not derived from the word "everyone."
So this fellow says that Salvation is NOT in the hands of men and he is right, it is of the Lord. Yet he says that Man has the Free Will to accept or reject the Gospel of Christ, which mean that Salvation IS in in the Hands of Men!
He says that Election is no where in the Book of John, yet John is in the same Bible that contains books that DO speak about Election!
Do you really think God would NOT Save a person who wanted to be Saved, as this fellow said?
That's not what Calvinist Believe or Teach! I'm a Calvinist so I can tell you that to teach what he is saying is NOT True!
God has never not Saved anyone seeking to be Saved.
God has never Saved anyone who didn't want to be Saved.
The difference between Calvinism (The Reformed Doctrine) and Arminianism (Free Will) doctrine, Arminianism teaches that that you choose God of your own volition apart from God. Calvinist know this is impossible because of what Paul says in 1st COR 2:14. "The natural Man cannot understand things of the Spirit." Man cannot choose Salvation because he can't understand Spiritual matters in and of himself.
Unless God has chosen to open the Mind of a Person to understand Scripture, grant that person repentance, and bring him to the Cross, no one can be Saved. If you have been Saved, praise God for having Mercy on you as it was His Will to do so, and bring you to the realization of who Jesus is and giving you Faith to believe in Him. You are an object of Mercy as it says in Romans 9: 11-24. Rejoice!
You are confusing his message because you apparently have lost the ability to hear a preacher or read the Bible without it being processed through your lens of Calvinism. That is what indoctrination will do to a person.
The kingdom of God and the kingdom of heaven are the same thing. Jesus uses them interchangeably in Matthew 19.
Interesting. I've heard many times that the Kingdom of God and Kingdom of Heaven are not the same thing originally but became translated in modern Bibles interchangeably to be the same meaning. Not so sure I'd trust that view but I'm no expert. I'll let others make their best case.
@@faithonfireministries,
Modern Bibles have nothing to do with the discussion. In the KJV too uses them interchangeably in Matthew 19:23-24. They are the same thing. Matthew prefers to use the phrase "kingdom of heaven" because of his audience, which was Jewish. Jews avoided using God's name in order to avoid blaspheming, so they often substituted words like "heaven" instead. Therefore, the "kingdom of God" and the "kingdom of heaven" are the same thing.
@@faithonfireministries they aren’t the same. Don’t listen to this guy.. he doesn’t know what he’s talking about at all. Search Robert breaker kingdom of heaven vs kingdom of God and see all the scripture. Don’t listen to this guy though.
The only mention of Calvinism, has nothing to do with Calvinism.
If one is a believer (an on going belief)
he is one of the Elect. There is no such thing as a believer that goes to hell because he is not Elect.
You are missing the fact that many Calvinists in accordance with the Westminster Confession of Faith do in fact preach that non-elect people can come to faith in Jesus but they are not saved because their faith is not a "saving faith" given by God to the Elect as a gift, and they say the nonelect person's faith in Christ is a works based faith and they had a false conversion. Therefore, they do indeed claim believers go to hell on that basis, because Scripture says we are not saved by works. They are of course very wrong because Romans 3: 27 tell us that there is a law of works and a law of faith and therefore faith cannot be a work. Calvinists are wrong about a lot of Biblical topics. Faith happens to be one of them.
John 10:26 "But ye believe not, BECAUSE ye are NOT OF MY sheep, as I said unto you.
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
29 My Father, WHICH GAVE them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand."
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You can't have MY sheep unless you know such a specific group will be yours, and you can't give by simply knowing, giving requires action, and according to those very verses Jesus' sheep are given to Him by the Father, and Christ gives those that are given to Him eternal life.
It's everywhere but I understand why people don't want to see it, it's emotionally disruptive and goes against very strong sensibilities of fairness and etc.
I want to know, if people are not saved because they are elect, then it must be totally up to the individual, if so, then why is it that you can have two people that hear the same message, the same convincing arguments, and so on, and one is saved, and the other is not? The only logically consistent answer to that is that there's something inherently better than the one who rejected the message, the one who was saved must have had better reasoning ability, or perhaps inherently a more sensitive conscience which drew out the guilt that caused the desperation for salvation, and so forth. Thus, following this logic, since the reason rejection happens according to the non-election scheme is because of something inherent to the person, then God's providence is why people reject, they just providentially ended up being given their capacities and reasoning, and because of their personality type and where they may have been born and born to, their circumstances ensured they could not believe, that they are those which don't have it in them to accept the message and be saved, in which case you are ironically in a position similar to Calvinists in that Gods still ultimately determining who will be saved and who won't, you were planned to be saved by God ensuring you would be exposed to what you needed to and that you would be the kind of person that would accept the gospel.
You can't escape this ultimate reality, either side you pick you end up with God determining salvation.
Just remember, fair sends everyone to Hell.
Read John 10: 9. Jesus said "any man." Calvinism is a cult preaching the Gospel of election, not the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Beware of how you have been taught Scripture if you have listened to the leaders of the Calvinist movement. They are misinterpreting Scripture by placing the elect (you of course) in the middle of Bible verses that are referring to other people, like the chosen Disciples or Apostles, or at times everybody, but they want you to think it is the "elect" the Bible is referring to. Calvinism trains people to spot keywords like "Chosen" or "sheep" and then suggest it means the elect and then place yourself in verse as belonging to that category because you are part of the elect of course.
When they say Jesus died for all, they define "all" as just being the elect. When a Christian says the same thing, they mean Jesus died for everybody, and people have freewill to hear the Gospel and reject it or receive it, and we are saved not for being part of God's elect, but by believing in Jesus Christ and putting our faith in Him and receiving the gift of grace which is eternal life just as the Bible is crystal clear about in regards to salvation. Jesus will not cast anyone aside who comes to Him by faith.
You seem well entrenched in your beliefs, but perhaps one day you will be like others who comment on my channel and write, "I was saved out of Calvinism." I love reading comments like that. I pray that happens for everybody trapped in that destructive and dangerous false theology.
Okay Berean Voice, get ready for some basic Salvation 101 because the Calvinist have thoroughly confused you. Salvation comes to those who believe in Jesus Christ and have put their faith in Him, and receive the gift of grace which is eternal life (John 3: 16). You are confusing forgiveness with salvation. 1 John 2: 2 KJV says, "And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world." But people still die in their sins and go to hell, so forgiveness of sins does not equate to regeneration and going to heaven one day. Jesus forgave people in the Gospels, but they were not saved (regenerated) at that moment God forgave them. They were still under Old Covenant law. Salvation by faith and the gift of grace is New Covenant and that only happened starting at Pentecost onward.
We are forgiven and reconciled to God by His death, but not saved by His death. We are saved by His life. 1 John 5: 12 KJV says, "He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life." Romans 5: 10 KJV says, "For if, when we were enemies, *we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son ** , much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life."*
And synergist is a lie Calvinist tell to create a false dichotomy between real Christians and their fake belief. I don't even agree with their premise but I will say this, according to their own definition of synergist, Calvinist are synergist, not monergist as they claim to be. Monergism means regeneration of a person happens by God without the cooperation of people in any way. However, Romans 10: 13-15 KJV says,"13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. {Whosoever means just that, not the elect} 14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and *how shall they hear without a preacher?* [15] And how shall they preach, except they be sent?"
Paul is saying preaching the Word of God is a prerequisite to salvation. Jesus commanded his follows to preach in the Great Commission for this very reason. So a person must willfully cooperate with God to obey Jesus and preach the Gospel to somebody else. The unregenerate person must also cooperate by willfully listening to the Gospel and believing it or rejecting it. So, Calvinist are synergists by their own definition of it.
In reality, mankind has no power to save itself, but only to believe in the promise of God for salvation which is through faith. Calvinist say regeneration takes place first, then comes faith and grace otherwise man having faith is cooperating with God for salvation. That is why they have a false Gospel and they contradict their own teachings and conveniently leave out the cooperating nature of both the obedient preacher and attentive listening of the unsaved person. In fact, Hebrews 10: 17 says, "So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." Notice this passage does not say faith comes by regeneration. So faith is the prerequisite to salvation (regeneration) which debunks Calvinism's core distinctive beliefs.
Once a person has put their faith in Jesus Christ, they are not saving themselves, but only relying on the promise made by God in Scripture for Him to save them according to his promise. It is 100% the supernatural act of God to save a person, and God does not lie, so when Scripture says whosoever believes shall be saved, you can trust that promise! Ephesians 2: 8-9 KJV says, "8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast." Notice "it" is the gift of God, not they are the gift of God. The "it" is grace which is the gift through faith. The promise of God is to give a person the gift of grace which is eternal life (being saved) through faith. Faith is not a work. Works is doing the law of God and thinking that saves you. No it won't. That was Old Covenant. New Covenant is clear, salvation by faith alone in Christ.
@@TheBereanVoice Mr. Faith On Fire here has no interest in properly understanding what the Reformed view teaches. He does as much rambling as Charles Lawson, unable to stick to one topic. He has to throw as many accusations and objections and claims out there as possible to muddy the waters and make it look like he has properly refuted his opponents. I have also tried to keep him on track and his response to me was basically “Ah, you’re just going off topic from this video,” while his own videos can never stick to one topic. Thank you for your attempt to ask simple questions, but he just can’t answer them.
@@TheBereanVoice So how did the Thief on the cross join Christ in Heaven?
It was not His Good works, that's obvious.
How did He make it?
He said Lord remember me when you enter in your kingdom.
All of the legalism, Calvinism, and high and mighty condescending would not have given him eternal life.
He Believed in our Lord.
The theological bandstanding will burn because it's wood hay and stubble.
If you think Pastor Lawson is uneducated then people who critize him must be imbeciles.
Where is the fruit in all the study?
How many have come to Christ by theological presumption of facts?
A better name for Berean would be San Hadrian.
@@TheBereanVoice
Well now isn't that reply towing, the old expectancy of Adhominim, response.
There is no authority over God's Holy written Word period.
If you are promoting your vast knowledge of what said in His Word, you simply are doing so out of pride.
I am not aiming my comment at you, because I do not know if you evangelize or teach Bible.
That would be a gift from God to edify the Church.
To those who make a career out of telling others about how fallen they are need to see the will of God.
When I reply to your statement I had just finished listening to a Calvinest.
So my apologies if I offended you.
In a round table discussion a Calvinest said that Charismatics are more detrimental than abortion.
That was one of the most ungodly offensive comments I have ever heard.
"Sin entered the world"
The problem I have with Dispensationalism , is that it cheapens grace. We might not be saved by works (behaviour) , but we are still called to holy/righteous living as Christains.
I cannot understand any church which claims the sermon on the mount is not for Christians.
What about Matthew 28 when Jesus says Go ye therefore and teach ALL nations. I think that implies his teaching from Matthew is for ALL, even the pagan that comes out of the woods
Sadly a Calvinist would say that John 10 is a text for their side. "...that God gave Me...".
Pastor Lawson have you done a or sermons on the doctrine of election that I could watch and learn?
I'd like to see this too. It's a shame that most of the more popular non-televangelist prosperity / Word of Faith teachers happen to be staunch Calvinists. Don't get me wrong, I still respect people like John Piper, John MacArthur, etc but I do feel that when the topic of election via predestination comes up, it actively warps and taints the image of God.
It's simple, before the foundation of the world God planned to send Jesus to die for the sins of the whole world so that whosoever believes shall be saved. Those who believe are the elect.
You know what word is also not in the gospel of john..... repent
I heard total depravity and Perseverance of the saints I didn't hear any refutation
Debate James White !!!
James White is just... obnoxious.
I'm sure he's a nice guy and all but man, he is the epitome of the arrogant Calvinism defense force.
His argument against election at 40:00 is against a straw man. He misrepresented election.
Could it be that your understanding of election is not correct and therefore your opinion about his argument is incorrect?
*John 6* _KJV_
*37* All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
*38* For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
*39* And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
*40* And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
*41* The Jews then murmured at him, because he said, I am the bread which came down from heaven.
*42* And they said, Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? how is it then that he saith, I came down from heaven?
*43* Jesus therefore answered and said unto them, Murmur not among yourselves.
*44* No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
7:50 Lawson says he gives someone to the Gospel of John, purposely avoiding the word "elect." This is bizarre, because we still see in John that God the Father is drawing people; people don't draw themselves. We need not have the word for the concept it describes to be present. If the Father does the drawing, that makes it the Father's choice.
Lawson correctly says that we are saved when we believe. That's great. We agree on primary issues, which is anything pertaining the gospel. I would say Calvinism is a secondary issue; believing it is *not* a requirement of salvation. Calvinism is a doctrine believers come to understand after they are saved, not before. All we need is to believe the gospel, the Good News of Jesus Christ.
@@4thelambs It’s normal to refer to an established individual by his or her last name. For instance, if I were writing about William Bradford, the Governor of Plymouth Colony (and my ancestor), I wouldn’t need to call him by his full name and title each time; if it’s established that he is a key figure in a narrative, referring to him as Bradford is sufficient.
Secondly, while I hope every gospel-preaching pastor prays to be led by the Holy Spirit before stepping into the pulpit, it would be folly to think that each word he speaks is from the Holy Spirit. Indeed, Scripture is the inspired word of God, but the words spoken apart from Scripture are not the inspired word of God.
Furthermore, this sermon is up for public consumption; it can be critiqued by anyone with internet access. This is true of any sermon online, whether the preacher is an Independent Fundamental Baptist, a Pentecostal, Presbyterian, Adventist, Lutheran, Southern Baptist, Particular Baptist, or other gospel-preaching minister.
Indeed, I’m even critiquing your public comment, just as you critiqued mine.
@@4thelambs Do you believe you’re not allowed to disagree with a preacher?
@@4thelambs Thank you for your thoughtful reply.
I’m a regular-attending member of a Bible-preaching and teaching church. I feed on God’s written word daily (I’m on a cover-to-cover 90-day reading plan). I read books by men who have deeply studied the Bible. Occasionally, I will listen to online sermons and various lecture series.
Sometimes I watch a video I don’t agree with. This serves two purposes: one being that it helps me consider matters I may not have before; the other being that I find it helps me firm up what I do believe, giving defense against the arguments presented.
This is why I watched the video above. I don’t agree with this man’s theology; I think he’s wrong. I don’t doubt that he desires to honor God, but I believe he is mistaken about the doctrines commonly nicknamed Calvinism.
I do agree that the first book of the Bible that new believers should read is John, but not to avoid the matter of election. It’s a good starting point because it is so explicit in who Jesus is, and why He came to give His life for His sheep, and how one can be saved.
Charles Lawson is a confused theologian. He says, at the 35:50 - 38:15 minute mark, he starts making a convoluted argument about blood and DNA and comes to the startling conclusion that “the blood of the Lord Jesus Christ was not the blood of man.” I’m sorry, but what? Are you honestly saying that Jesus Christ, the God-Man, 100% God, 100% man, did not have the blood of man, human blood, in him?
Trust me, I get the argument that the sin nature is passed down through the male line, through the federal headship of Adam. That’s the point Lawson is trying to make. But to take that necessary conclusion and then make the statement “The blood of Jesus was not the blood of man,” is absurd. It is precisely BECAUSE Jesus is fully God and fully man that His perfect and sinless life could be used as the substitutionary atonement for the sins.
This level of thinking is indicative of the scattered nature of this preacher, just rambling on and on with no sense of coherency at all. And it’s indicative of the kind of preaching Brian, Mr. Faith on Fire, listens to and explains his confused theology as well. I’m quite astonished that this “sermon” is being touted as “refuting Calvinism” using the Gospel of John when Lawson barely touched the book of John and barely discussed any doctrines of Calvinism besides “Nope! NOPE! There is NO mention of the elect in the Bible!”
“Therefore I endure all things for the elect’s sake, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory” (2 Tim. 2:10)
“Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, long suffering” (Col. 3:12)
“Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God’s elect? It is God that justifieth” (Rom. 8:33)
“And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days will be shortened… For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.” (Matt. 24:22, 24)
“Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ according to the faith of God’s elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness” (Tit. 1:1)
None of these texts touched, not a single one exegeted. Nothing in John used to refute Calvinism at all. Just the incoherent mumblings of a man who is very confused.
@@4thelambs care to actually interact with anything that I said, or are you content with a comment a middle school student would make?
@@4thelambs typical.
where does the Bible say to go and preach about the election?. Telling people that some are chosen and others aren't. And it doesn't matter what you do or believe because God did it for you already??. It is not a coincidence that many Calvinists don't believe in preaching to the lost. Why should they? God has everything fixed. That doesn't come from God.
It doesn’t matter if about election, Gods words commands us to repent, receive Christ and live as Holy as possible that’s what’s important!
How do YOU live as holy, AS POSSIBLE?
Are you depending on yourself, on behavior modification?
In other words you put 100% faith and trust in Jesus Christ as Lord and savior and live according to His Word with all your soul mind and strength.
He mentioned Genesis 6 about the sons of men coming down with the women etc making giants. That those sons of men were the "angels". That is actually Christian mythology as scripture doesn't teach this. Read it in its context. Sons of men actually are referring to the "sons of Adam" i.e. Seth's offspring. They went down to the women is just simple Biblical wording. Got to be cautious of these sorts of things. A spirit or heavenly being lying with a human being is not at all taught or supported in the infallible word of God. Hope more people caught that. It was taught in the Word of Faith circles that I came out of and gotta be careful of it.
It's not "sons of men", it is "sons of God" (bene ha elohim).
In the OT, the term "sons of God" is exclusively used for angelic beings. There are also many other extra-biblical texts that confirm this was the accepted view, regardless of the actual 'canonicity' of said texts (Enoch, Jasher, Giants, etc). There are no other ancient texts covering that subject that teach anything else.
Any church which is individual focused, independent in nature is a cult, not an apostolic church which is chaired by a descendent disciple. Dont allow the hands of such Pastors to touch you; for sure, you will be partaking in their sins and wrong doings at twice the level if you understand Mathew 23 15. Please join in a church which is the branch of one wine, the body of Christ Jesus, if you understand John 15 4. Don't waste time calling them my spiritual father, mother.. When they start enjoying calling them "Spiritual father, Spiritual mother", run away from there, since it is a proof that they have already relinquished their obedience to the word of Jesus.
Not convinced. Dispensationalism is a popular and widespread way of reading the Bible. It originated in the nineteenth century in the teaching of John Nelson Darby (18 November 1800 - 29 April 1882) . So before then, we were probably all wrong. .... If ...... All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work. 2 Timothy 3:16
Obviously context is important, but I cannot believe God would create a 2 tier Gospel system for Jews and Gentiles. gentiles free to live as they want with faith / jews have to obey the law
If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise. (1 promise) Galatians 3
Brian, you misunderstand (at this point I think intentionally) and hate Calvinism so much that it is blinding you about what is or isn’t Biblical preaching. If this is indicative of the kind of preaching you think is sound then that explains a lot about your theology and your attitude towards your Reformed/Calvinist (“whatever you want to call it,” as you say) brothers and sisters in Christ.
Love this man but he's wrong on Calvinism. It's the perseverance of the saints. Ptl ex Arminian Calvinist.
I've never heard anyone considered a "Calvanist" say no matter how much you believe, if you're not of the elect, you will not be saved. If one is chosen by God, he or she believes, they are drawn to Jesus by the Father. Only those God choses (the so called elect) are drawn to Christ. Only the chosen go to heaven, only the chosen believe. This is what Jesus said. You cannot bring yourself to Christ... you are depraved and dead in sin. Only Christ can save you, whether you believe as a Calvanist or as Armenian in your reading of the word.
False.
You are elected because you believe. God chooses some people for condemnation? He should according to Calvinism. To whomsoever believes.
Hardly a refutation of Calvinism. I wonder if Charles Lawson has read Spurgeon v. Hyper-Calvinism. His comments in this sermon suggest he has not. Hyper-Calvinism is a perversion of Calvinism.
I'd be curious to know if Lawson has read the Canons of Dort. Many people haven't. It's popular these days to attack a strawman that looks like Calvinism, rather than deal with the actual doctrines themselves.
@@TheMaineSurveyor Exactly.
Calvinst are leading people to their destruction through their satanic gospel.
Through thy precepts I get understanding: therefore I hate every false way.
{Psalm 119:104}
Why?
How?
@@7748bassfisherman
Yes, Why would God create humans destined for destruction. It is totally irrational, and so too would be the determative judgement of God. Executedupon his return.
The gospel of the kingdom is for the whole world, for God is no respecter of persons.
Faith on strange fire. There is nothing new in theology except that which is false.
Did you stay up all night thinking up that clever one? Or did you just ask an 8 year old for a witty take on my channel name? Ridiculous comment.
The world was cursed because of what Adam and Eve did. We didn't inherit Adam's guilt from his bloodline though. We are responsible for our own sins, not the sins of Adam. Ezekiel 18:19-23. The Great White throne judgement will judge us on the lives that WE LIVED.
Every person will sin, NOT FROM BIRTH, but from YOUTHFUL REBELLION. This is what the Bible teaches. Babies are born innocent, they lack the knowledge of Good and Evil. When they come to the age of accountability, every child is different... they are then culpable. We don't baptize babies for the same reason. They have no knowledge of baptism and what it means, hence the age of accountability.
The Garden of Eden was perfect. There was no sin in Adam or Eve... they didn't inherit sin from anyone either. They had free will. God is not the author of sin.
What allows for sin to take place are 3 things... free will, temptation, and the presence of evil. Satan committed the first sin, in Heaven. Angels had free will, the temptation came from Lucifer who rebelled.
Original sin came through one man, as a curse. Not through a bloodline.
How did someone like John Calvin get such a grip on the Body of Christ?
Well, for one, Calvin was a Roman Catholic. Search as you wish, you will find
NO justification for the entry of "this" teaching anywhere in the NT scriptures.
But THIS church dominated the western world for a thousand years! Even today
it imposes itself on every believer's thoughts. Read Mt. 23 entirely, which begins
with the phrase, "THEN Jesus spoke to the multitudes..." but He finally speaks to
"everyone who trusts in him" - even to this day - the verses 8-12; "...but YOU..." Yes,
YOU owe allegiance to no one but to the Lord Jesus, period, and therefore, to God the Father. It is NOT difficult to open a bible by yourself and ask God to reveal His personal word to you. What will happen when the power goes off and the internet goes down?
I assure you, that day is coming soon - very soon! In that day, you will have to prove
that you know Him. Whose words will you turn to?
Because of the common use of the word "Calvinism", there is a mistaken belief that some Christians are elevating John Calvin to idol status. Calvinism is merely a nickname, which refers to the biblical doctrines described in the Canons of Dort. The Canons of Dort were drafted by a committee comprised of Protestant leadership from churches all over Western Europe, including Anglicans who were subjects of King James. This was done from late 1618 through early 1619. John Calvin wasn't a part of it because he was dead.
The writers of the Canons of Dort appealed to Scripture, not to John Calvin, as the authority for the doctrines they described in each Head of Doctrine.
The Canons were written in response to the rapidly-spreading Arminian ideas overtaking the Dutch church. The momentum of the Protestant Reformation was on the line here, which is why the Dutch invited other Protestants from across Europe to participate in the Synod of Dort, because "Where no counsel is, the people fall: but in the multitude of counsellors there is safety" (Proverbs 11:14).
The first several articles of the First Head of Doctrine focus on the gospel, detailing man's sin and God's love for us through Christ, our receipt of eternal life by belief in Him, and the need for preachers to spread the gospel to the lost, citing such Scriptures as Romans 3:19, 23; 6:23, John 3:16, and Romans 10:14-15, Ephesians 2:8, and Philippians 1:29.
Not only do the Canons specify the position of the writers, but they also detail the erroneous ideas they were opposing. Each Head of Doctrine is followed by a summary of the ideas they are rejecting, and the corrective teaching that counters the errors.
John Calvin is mentioned exactly zero times. Scripture is mentioned constantly. If a specific verse "address" (book, chapter, verse number) is not mentioned in a particular sentence, anyone who is familiar with the Bible will immediately recognize the passages to which the writers refer.
You may not have read the Canons of Dort. However, if you are looking to counter Calvinism, it would be best to start from there. You may even end up agreeing with some of the Canons on some points.
@@TheMaineSurveyor It is enough to read the words of Jesus. He is our Lord. When you read His words, you read the complete will of God the Father. Paul came with instructions for Gentiles, who had no clue about the Kingdom of God. That was then - this is now! The West is drowning in Bibles - Genesis to the Revelation. We no longer need that quick infusion of faith into a string of ignorant Nations. But wolves have crept in over the centuries and "changed" the word of God. People will NOT read it for themselves and stand on it. They would rather "follow" men. WHO will stand up to Catholics and Reformed deceivers and say, "THIS is what the Lord Jesus said!"
@@saludanite Do you ever listen to a preacher's sermon?
@@TheMaineSurveyor Hello! I say the things I do "because" I listen to men in pulpits talking. Jesus NEVER authorized what passes for "churches" today. Luke 10, Mark 16, Mt. 23, John 12.44-50, John 10, Luke 24.36-49, Luke 14.33, Mt. 19.16-30.
His word to us all is "Go!" Nineteen + centuries and men have dominated the body of believers. They have withheld the scriptures, changed their importance, been silent in the face of overt injustices. I find myself doing the very same things - but only the scriptures lift me out of my errors.
@@saludanite And a big, hearty "Hi!" right back at ya. (This is a bit late to exchange greetings, but I'm up for it.) The Bible is the written word of God. It is authoritative. If anything we say runs counter to the Bible, then we are wrong and the Bible remains true. The writers of the Canons of Dort had the same view. They made it clear where they were quoting Scripture, or referring to Scripture, so that we can examine the Scripture and see if the Canons rightly describe what the Bible says or not. Wherever the Canons disagree with Scripture, the Canons must submit, and Scripture remains forever true and authoritative.
So, back to your original comment above: if you want to rightly refute the claims of Calvinism from the Bible, then it would help you to know what Calvinism claims. You won't get that from Charles Lawson (or Faith on Fire, or Soteriology101, or any other objector), but you will get it from the Canons of Dort. That's what my point is: go to the source of the claims if you want to know what the claims are, so that you can use Scripture to refute the claims in the places where you think the claims are wrong. That's all I'm trying to say here.
Who in the world has ever walked up to another, pointed their finger and said: “I don’t care how much you believe, you’re not one of the elect!”??
“According to some of these people”
Too bad Lawson can’t give us any examples 🤔
No one does this sir. That’s a ridiculous argument.
It’s in the Westminster confession of faith chapter X section IV. Even the ones that think they are elect just might not be one .
Most Calvinists aren't going to go around saying that to people - but they probably believe it.
Also, isn't he a cessationist? Most Baptists are. I know when I got born again at age 45 the Lord started speaking to me and told me to repent of sins that I had done as young as seven years old when I had stolen, fornicated in college with my husband, lied repeatedly, loved idols of family and possessions and so on. I was a Baptist, baptized at 12, raising my three children to be Baptists, and I would have gone to hell if I had died. You can't continue willfully sinning after you are born again if you read the whole book of 1 John. Revelation 2-3 says that believers need to repent!
Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit ADULTERY with her into great TRIBULATION, except they repent of their deeds. And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.
Revelation 2:20-23 KJV
The Bible says that the children of born again believers will be raptured with them.
But to the married [believers] I give instructions-not I, but the Lord-that the wife is not to separate from her husband, (but even if she does leave him, let her remain single or else be reconciled to her husband) and that the husband should not leave his wife. To the rest I declare-I, not the Lord [since Jesus did not discuss this]-that if any [believing] brother has a wife who does not believe [in Christ], and she consents to live with him, he must not leave her. And if any [believing] woman has an unbelieving husband, and he consents to live with her, she must not leave him. For the unbelieving husband is sanctified [that is, he receives the blessings granted] through his [Christian] wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be [ceremonially] unclean, but as it is they are holy.
1 Corinthians 7:10-14 AMP
This is another thing you do: you cover the altar of the Lord with tears, with [your own] weeping and sighing, because the Lord no longer regards your offering or accepts it with favor from your hand. But you say, “Why [does He reject it]?” Because the Lord has been a witness between you and the wife of your youth, against whom you have dealt treacherously. Yet she is your marriage companion and the wife of your covenant [made by your vows]. But not one has done so who has a remnant of the Spirit. And what did that one do while seeking a godly offspring? Take heed then to your spirit, and let no one deal treacherously against the wife of your youth. “For I hate divorce,” says the Lord, the God of Israel, “and him who covers his garment with wrong and violence,” says the Lord of hosts. “Therefore keep watch on your spirit, so that you do not deal treacherously [with your wife].”
Malachi 2:13-16 AMP
Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. And those who are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
Galatians 5:19-25 NKJV
Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.”
Luke 21:36 NKJV
Maranatha!
Pastor Lawson says he is refuting Calvinism - that is good. Then he says he believes in the "Perseverance of the Saints" which is a Calvinistic doctrine! Is he confused?
Nope, Pastor Lawson believes in Once Saved Always Saved (OSAS) which is important regarding eternal security, but the Calvinist view of Perseverance of the Saints is totally different from OSAS but yet is often confused with being the same doctrine since the outcome is the same. I assure you the two have nothing to do with each other.
@@faithonfireministries I stand corrected. I must have misunderstood this. Could you briefly explain the difference please.
@@Ancient-Paths perseverance says that maintaining good works will be evidence of election. It must continue till death. Osas requires no such thing. It allows for carnal Christians.
@@sladisciples Thank you for your clarification on this matter.
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Man, you know what's funny, I visit Temple Baptist church often, and he would completely refute you for calling reformed brethren members of a cult. In one of his sermons during Covid, he even called Pastor Macarthur...wait for it....a brother! How about that!
I love Pastor Charles Lawson. Been watching him weekly for over a decade. He is my favorite pastor to watch online, but I don’t agree with everything he says. He believes the Gap Theory while I don’t for instance and he can get into the weeds sometimes believing conspiracy theories. It is very possible he doesn’t even know MacArthur is a Calvinist because Pastor Lawson is very much against Calvinism.
He didn't refute Calvinism, he refuted Scripture.
Only a blind man who sees through the indoctrinated lens of Calvinism would say that.
@@faithonfireministries My friend, I discovered the Reformed Doctrine through Scripture before I'd even heard of John Calvin. You say I'm blind and have been indoctrinated. But I know my eyes were opened to understand Scripture by the Holy Spirit. I WAS blind, but now I see, only because God had mercy on me. I urge you to read Romans 12 verse 3 to discover the only reason you have faith in Christ in the first place, if indeed you have faith.
Romans 12: 3 is not about saving faith, aka eternal salvation or being born again. Paul is speaking there to those who are already saved and is referring to the faith of the believer to go and do the ministry God has for them based upon the gifts of the Holy Spirit they were given by God. You have to keep reading the next handful of verses to get the proper context.
On the other point, I do not doubt you learned of the reformed doctrines before hearing about John Calvin. That is how indoctrination works. Its sneaky and gradual. They don't come right out and tell you at the beginning that they are following John Calvin. They say they are following Scripture and then slowly begin to teach in ways that for the trained eye who knows Scripture well can see they are actually undermining the authority of Scripture and redefining a whole lot of it to fit their systematic religion.
@@faithonfireministries I really don't know who the "They" are who are "Sneaky and Gradual". Nobody told me about The Reformed doctrine. What I learned about the Sovereignty of our God, Predestination and the Gift of Faith, I did not learn in a Church or by some one teaching it to me. These things I learned from Scripture. Actually I was taught just the opposite by the Church I grew up in. Yes Romans 12:4 and above is talking about the Gifts, But The point of my wanting you to read Romans 12:3 my friend, was missed by you and so many Like you.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you believe that you heard the Gospel of Christ, understood the Spiritual ramifications of not believing, that the Gospel concerns your Soul and Spirit, made a decision to have Faith in Christ and be Saved, and this decision came by your own understanding because you have the "The Free Will" to accept or reject the Gospel, am I wrong?
@@randym.7238 Discovering it on your own is a red flag - you are supposed to have someone qualified teach you, not teach yourself so you can be your own island within the body.
This is funny. It was the Gospel of John that set my feet on the pathway to becoming a Calvinist.
You just hate Calvinist. Obviously. There are probably genuine Christian out there and you could be misunderstanding about what they believe. Why do you have to refute it when there is actually some merit to it.
There is no Biblical merit to Calvinism. It is a Gnostic philosophy introduced by Augustine long before it was ever given a name based on John Calvin. I don't hate anybody, but false teachings that are unbiblical need to be called out. Real Christians try to convert the lost to Christ and Calvinist just try to convert new Christians to Calvinism which is a cult.
“And on some have compassion, making a distinction; but others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire, hating even the garment defiled by the flesh.“ Jude 1:22-23
@@faithonfireministries I have been teaching this same thing since 2011.
I knew the main doctrine of Calvinism was contrary to Free Will, and just wrong.
I joined a Christian chat room, and it became clear they would attack any other gospel than John Calvin's.
So I began researching the origins of Calvinism, and found that Calvin was a Catholic reject who like the Church of Rome, would kill or torment anyone who disagreed with him.
Calvin was removed from the Catholic seminary, yet remained faithful to the teaching of Augustine of Hippo.
John Wycliffe began to translate from the Catholic Vulgate another Bible.
This was the start of the Geneva Bible, and was also continued in work by Jan Huss, John Calvin.
Wycliffealso followed the work of Augustine, by teaching in the cleft notes.
The Roman Church burned Huss at the Stake with the text thrown around his feet, they dug up Wycliffe from the grave and burned his body.
Calvin had over 50 people murdered in Geneva, I personally believe he was insane.
Unfortunately the Puritans held the Geneva Bible as their word when they came to America, they believed it was a promise land given by God.
This would allow them to eventually murder Native Americans considering it to be Gods will.
Islam, Calvinism and other false doctrine came from the Church of Rome.
Even Luther believed it was the physical body of Christ during their Eurchrist.
Calvin believed people were transformed up to the third Heaven for this apostasy.
There is a Spirit that has manifested itself from the Roman Church.
I refute that the name Catholic by definition translates to universal Church.
I deny that all other doctrines are Protesters, due to the negative connotations of this term.
Calvinism negates the atonement of or lord, with its dogma.
So what constitutes antichrist doctrines?
My Lord is not still on the Cross, and Mary is not part of the Godhead, Saints past cannot pray for you, nor can Angels save your soul.
Christ alone brought our Salvation The Blood of a Human dad is transfered to a baby, Jesus was born God with us He was sinless perfection.
I too am a Calvinist. Although i can't say i believe in tulip. But i don't like to be called Calvinist. This has been a subject that has been battled over since the bible was written. Why not preach christ and him alone rather than this? I hear a lot about free will, but I've never seen it.
TULIP which you say you don't believe is the 5 points of Calvinism also known as the doctrines of grace. They are all false so that is great you don't believe them. However, if you don't believe them you are not a Calvinist nor Reformed, so why do you associate yourself with them? Those doctrines are distinctive to Calvinism/Reformed Theology.
Also, you exercise free will everyday. The Bible explicitly makes that clear over and over again as well. The Calvinistic idea of God's Sovereignty being that he declared and predestined every meticulous little thing any person ever does is a perversion of what "sovereignty" means and how it is defined, and a perversion of God's character and what Scripture says. Their use of that label and their hijacking of other Bible terms are a thin covering to hide the truth that lies beneath, that they are all following pagan fatalism and hold to Gnostic beliefs.
I think you need to do a little more research on your Eschatology...
I listened to this dear man's message. To refute some of his statements would take much more space than is here. There is no question he was sincere but, in a number of places, sincerely wrong. His message was self-contradictory, non-sequitor, and incoherent. He said "election is a New Testament doctrine" but did not define was election is. He said "there is not one word in the New Testament that only the elect will be saved" when the NT is replete with verses that only the elect will be saved. Does he be that those who are not the elect will be saved? He says "the Gospel of John has nothing to do with election". Really? Then why does Jesus say 3 times in John 6 alone "all that the Father gives me shall come to me"? Who are the "all"? The dear man needs to define the word "elect" as it used on the NT.
Arminius was a wolf in sheep's clothing. As a heretic he practiced dishonesty, saying one thing in front of men with sound doctrine and another thing to the men he was trying to entice with his error and draw them after himself.
Calvin was a reprobate.
@@larrybedouin2921 And your basis for that assertion?
@@derkardinal9781
Calvinism is a stumblingblock unto salvation. It is not Christian whatsoever.
@@larrybedouin2921 Could you please summarize how you think "Calvinism" is a stumbling block unto salvation.
Arminius was a Calvinist who had an important position at the Synod of Dort given to him by fellow Calvinists. The entire Calvin v. Arminius distinction is a fake scandal.
Jesus never said I AM in the greek and the father was never named I AM in the hebrew. And Jesus NEVER claimed to be God Almighty. Hosea 11:9, Deut 32:39, Isaiah 40:25, I suggest you reread the 1st commandment. Jesus didn't become a divine son until his spiritual birth not physical birth. Clearly stated in Romans 1:3-4 the first of many brothers. The same way all people become the Son of God.
Worshipping a human being as God is an abomination of the highest order.
Jer 16:19-21 kjv or hebrew was written for deceived Gentiles. The truth is revealed after 2625 years of deception Daniel 12:10-12.
The words "ego eimi" in the Greek literally mean I Am. The pastor here is wrong to go to Exodus 3 to prove this though, it's a common mistake many Christians make. A better example is Isaiah 43:10 crossed-referenced with John 8:24 & John 13:19.
Anyway, the rest of your post sounds like Jehovah's Witness doctrine which is nonsense and easily refuted. The irony is that the very passage JWs take their name from, which I quoted above, actually validates the deity of Christ.
We can sit here all day flinging scriptures back and forth but if the New Testament writers identified Jesus as YHWH, then the debate is over at that point. It's finished. Isaiah 6 and John 12:38-41. According to John's gospel, this was Jesus that Isaiah saw in his vision, not God the Father. There are more examples of Jesus being identified as YHWH but I thought I'd take one from John 😅
Also, Revelation 22:13 "I am the Alpha and Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End" -- is this good enough for you, as far as words spoken directly by Jesus are concerned?
Denying the divinity of Christ is sending you to hell as we speak.
The obsession with calvin is so ungodly. I believe in the absolute sovereignty of GOD in election and l know mankind will not come and mankind cannot come because of our total depravity but I'm NOT interested in calvin at all. GOD receives ALL the GLORY and HE WILL NOT share HIS GLORY with another
Great speaker, I learned a lot, but if I was a betting man my bottom dollar says he couldn’t tell you the New Testament plan of salvation.
Too bad that Charles Lawson preaches another gospel.
He talks grace through faith but then he says that you must repent of your sins to be saved.
Saving repentance is realizing that you are a sinner deserving of God's just punishment in Hell and turn (repent) from whatever you trusted in before, if indeed you trusted in anything; to trusting in the person and finished work of Christ "alone" for salvation.
How can you possibly trust Christ alone for salvation when you are also trusting in your performance?
You absolutely can't.
I used to listen to him.
He has so much truth, and he's 99% right on the gospel message, but he adds that 1% of works.
Also, he backloads works into the gospel message.
I totally agree with you about what is Biblical repentance unto salvation as you described it, but I have been listening to Pastor Lawson sermons for years now. Are you sure you heard him right? He definitely does not preach a works based salvation. He is an independent fundamental KJV reading Baptist. I love the KJV but I don't agree with Pastor Lawson on his KJV onlyist view but now that you mention this, I will watch this back and see if I notice what you are talking about. Thanks for the heads up! God bless you!
@@faithonfireministries No problem brother.
I have listened to plenty of his sermons over the years.
He was interviewed by the news media and that's where he said that you have to repent of your sins to be saved.
That's law keeping.
So that's a faith plus works equals salvation gospel message.
At least in this particular sermon he actually said just believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved.
Please keep up the good work brother.
And saying, "The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: *repent ye* and *believe* the gospel."
{Mark 1:15}
Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is *in Christ* Jesus:
To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
{Romans 3:27-28}
Question: how is it possible for a man to turn from his wicked ways?
Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This is the word of the LORD unto Zerubbabel, saying, *Not by might nor by power but by my spirit* saith the LORD of hosts.
{Zechariah 4:6}
@@larrybedouin2921 Not really sure what your point is here?
@@colonalklink14
You do err exceedingly,
Keeping the law is not work. It is our *duty* as servants of righteousness.
And hereby we do know that we know him, *if we keep his commandments*
{1 John 2:3}
For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and *his commandments are not grievous*
{1 John 5:3}
“If any man will do his will, [obedience] he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.”
{John 7:17}
“Doth he thank that servant because he did the things that were commanded him? I trow not.
So likewise ye, when ye shall have done all those things which are commanded you, say, We are unprofitable servants: we have done that which was our *duty* to do.”
{Luke 17:9-10}
For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. (The perfect law of liberty.)
So speak ye, and so do, *as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty*
{James 2:11-12}
Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole *duty* of man.
{The Preacher 12:13}
Someone lock him in a room and force him to read John 6:35-44, and only let him out when he admits the Gospel of John teaches unconditional election.
In the midst of your chosen passage is this verse 40 "And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day."
This is written to mankind, so believing on him (Jesus Christ) is not referring to the spirit world of demons that believes and trembles at His name and as fallen angels is already judged, but to humans. It is a statement of faith for the living with a promise they will have everlasting life, resurrected after death, never to experience the second death described in Revelation that for unbelievers will be the lake of fire.
So, no, John 6: 35 - 44 does not teach unconditional election unless you wish to ignore the verse I just quoted above or countless other ones in the Gospels about the new birth and eternal life, grace of God, etc. The Great Commission Jesus gave us says it plainly in the Gospel of Mark 16
"15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned."
What part of this Scripture do you disagree with?
@@faithonfireministries,
"In the midst of your chosen passage is this [John 6:40]."
Yep, now address John 6:37, "All that the Father gives to Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will surely never cast out." Which comes first in that sequence, being given by the Father to the Son, or coming to the Son?
"What part of this Scripture do you disagree with?"
All of it, since Mark 16:9-20 is a sham that isn't part of Scripture.
You are cherry picking Scripture and ignoring other Scripture to come to your point of view. If I listened to you I'd believe a false teaching... that there is no freewill, just the elect, and therefore following Jesus Christ and fulfilling the Great Commission would seem ridiculous because He already saved whomever He chose to save (before time began). If you believe in Calvinism than you have major holes in your doctrines and you will think Christians are "saved by faith" while demanding they remain "saved by works" while saying no one is saved by works. Calvinist are the biggest hypocrites in the world of those who claim to be Christians.
@@faithonfireministries,
There is no free will. Jeremiah 13:23 says an evil person can choose to do good as soon as a leopard can change his spots. A leopard isn't free to choose its spot pattern, and a sinner isn't free to choose to do good. It's not in their nature.
"Fulfilling the Great Commission would seem ridiculous because He already saved whomever He chose to save before time began."
Straw man alert. Only hyper-Calvinists believe evangelism isn't necessary. Calvinists have been the greatest evangelists of all time (Charles Spurgeon, Jonathan Edwards, Hudson Taylor, Adoniram Judson, Jim Elliott, George Whitefield, William Carey, etc.) because of their theology. Calvinism recognizes that God predestines the ends (who will be saved) and the means (how they will be saved). If God has elected someone to be saved, then He will also predestine them to hear the gospel. That's where evangelism comes in, because no one is born again without the gospel. Therefore, Calvinists make fantastic evangelists in history and today, because we know that we are carrying out God's predestined purpose.
"If you believe in Calvinism, then you have major holes in your doctrines, and you will think Christians are 'saved by faith' while demand they remain 'saved by works' while saying no one is saved by works."
You betray an ignorance of clear biblical concepts. Calvinists say we are *justified* by faith alone. The moment someone believes the gospel, that individual is declared innocent. However, if someone truly believes the gospel and is justified, then God will guaranteed sanctify someone unto perseverance and good works. If someone does not persevere in the faith and good works, then that person never had faith. If a person never had faith, then that person was never justified. Do you see the simple concept? Justification is only by grace through faith, but true faith will always result in good works. This is a patently biblical concept:
John 3:36, "Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life. Whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him."
1 Corinthians 15:1-2, "Now, I would remind you, brothers, of the gospel I preached to you, which you received, in which you stand, and by which you are being saved if you hold fast to the word I preached to you, unless you believed in vain."
Hebrews 5:9, "Being made perfect, He became the source of eternal life to all who obey Him."
James 2:14, 17, "What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? ... So also, faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead."
Those are just a few of innumerable verses that teach a true believer will persevere in good works.
Sorry, but you misapplied Jeremiah 13 leopard spots Scripture to salvation rather than what it clearly says which is correct and true because nobody can become good and be saved, but only saved and redeemed by Jesus Christ alone, not by our works. Only God is good. And in accordance with Scripture including John 6: 37 that you quoted me, Scripture is clear that God chose to save the whole world and through Jesus Christ to redeem the whole world, and people have freewill to receive or reject the Gospel of Jesus Christ (to believe and put your faith in Christ for salvation). That is because God loves his creation and all people but he does not want robots because robots cannot return love. They are simple programmed to do a task. Are you a robot? You say there is no freewill, so looks to me like you think you are a robot created by God... just one of the lucky ones he chose to go to heaven and not hell though, of course.
Saying only hyper-calvinist are against evangelism is incorrect. You either believe in TULIP or you don't. Its Calvinist's 5 different ways of saying the exact same thing. You believe God has already chosen who will be saved and who is going to hell and you don't believe in freewill. Logically then you must believe there is nothing a man can do to change the outcome as TULIP teaches. If you think God predetermined one man to preach the Gospel so another chosen man of God becomes saved, then you don't believe in Calvinism because a man had to do something (works) in order for another man to become supposedly irresistibly drawn to Jesus? That makes no sense.
Therefore, according to just normal Calvinism if nobody evangelized the end result of saved and lost would be exactly the same. That makes Calvinist diabolically opposed to following the commandment of Jesus Christ (The Great Commission). Do some of them still preach and evangelize. Yes, and only God knows what is sincerely in their hearts as to what their motivation truly is that they do that. If their true motivation is to reach the lost with the Gospel of Jesus Christ while at the same time claiming to be a Calvinist, then they have some major cognitive dissonance going on. That is when you simultaneously believe two things that cannot both be true.
You last statement is once again about works. Calvinist always promote works salvation while saying salvation is by faith alone. Once again, cognitive dissonance rears its ugly head.