Thanks for calling out this blasphemous doctrine! Needs to be more like you. The 5 points of calvinism perversion gives a green light to any sin possible without any conviction.
@@bigtobacco1098 Calvinists would say, you are predestined to sin all your life but also elected to go to heaven at the end. I can do anything I want as long as I claim "mysterious decree"!
There is no way to candy coat it. John Calvin was a murderer, burning Christians at the stake, as if he were God and had the power to judge men. Nothing good can come out of a dishonorable vessel.
Trust me when I say that Calvinists will have an answer for Johnny's bad behavior (like that is just what they did back then). John Calvin was a tyrant who ruled with an iron fist (similar to Stalin). Utterly amazing that anyone would worship his writings. Similar to Mormons who follow perverted leaders (Joseph Smith with his 40 wives & Brigham Young with 56 wives), Calvinists follow a murderer and simply choose to ignore his unruly life.
@getrit3007, I am not a Calvinist but the Calvinist is right that John 3:16 reveals that only those whosoever believes in Jesus Christ can be saved...
@@faithonfireministries this all started way back to the days idols were introduced on the earth. This Calvinism is the same as Satanism same as idolotry
You have the word of God and you have the fact that Jesus Christ never taught the word of God from the Bible they read Jesus Christ taught his deciples from the Septuagint. The original word of God was written in Hebrew and in Greek The fact is there are many Pastors and preachers who have the 9 gifts of the spirit and have done miracles in his name at these times so you have that truth as your foundation.
Jesus did not die for all is something unacceptable. It makes one feel sick. It contradicts the words. It gives those who claimed it feels superior to others.
tricord, you don't interpret that passage correctly and you claim they cannot believe despite Jesus who commands people to "enter by the strait gate" which is the narrow way that leads to life (Through faith in Him) and He warns us that the Broad Way leads to destruction. Why would Jesus bother to tell us that? Why would Jesus command us to do anything that He already predestined us to do and we have no choice in the matter?
@@faithonfireministries Verse 4 literally & verse 5 says He ‘predestined us for adoption. states: Ephesians 1:4-5 [4] “even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love [5] he predestined us for adoption to himself as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will,” This harmonizes with John 10:16, that you missed.
100% with you, brother. Once saved always saved, Jesus came for everyone, not an elite few, and it was the blood of God shed for us on calvary - Acts 20v28-32
I was in the comment section of your Mark Driscoll video the other day and one of the Calvinist trolls was trying to say that John 3:16 doesn’t say that Jesus died for everyone and I showed him both the words and their context and I had to repeat that to him over and over again because he kept denying it and pulling up other arguments avoiding the evidence. Talking to these Calvinists is like talking to the wall.
I've finally realized what Calvinism is about, its about defending Calvinism not the Bible. You have to follow their thought process to understand what they believe. If you just read the Bible you never will. It's like going down the rabbit hole, theology in a tube. You can't argue with them, because they can't see out of their hole. The Bible is a Narrative, God's Story, from Genesis all the way through to Revelation. We have an invitation to be part of it. Calvinism is a usurper that tries to impose it's own ideas on to the message, completely ignoring the story.
I don’t understand how Christians don’t see that the doctrine of limited atonement denies the very work of Christ. And how they can say things like, “well I’m not a Calvinist, but I still listen to John MacArthur”. What? This is no small thing. It’s wicked. It’s like spitting on the cross. Imagine saying to God who gave his Son, who he refers to in Ephesians chapter 1 verse 6 as his beloved, that he didn’t die for the sins of the world when he actually did. Imagine the furious anger of God every time a person loses heart, and despairs because of this blasphemous and brutal doctrine. Calvinist are told to look inwardly to judge whether they are truly saved , instead of to the cross. When I look inwardly it leads me to despair, but when I looked to the cross, it leads me to repentance and faith and hope.
Unless you are a universalist you believe in limited Atonement, either man or God does the limiting. In a man over God theology, it is man by his decree, in a God over man theology, it is Gods decree.
It's funny cuz I hear some Christians talk about John MacArthur in a good way or at least sort of a good way but certainly not a bad way and it confuses me, even someone that I respect as a preacher did that... Anyway I love that you break this all down for everyone to understand... I share this as much as I can because there's a lot of people, even the church I go to has a book that John MacArthur wrote on the desk for anyone to take if they want it... I wonder if they even know he's a calvinist.... Anyway thank you 🌹☺️ God bless you richly😊
hello faith on fire, how do you feel about doing a video exposing the deception of a calvinist pastor, who has taken a small but very historic Baptist church, and giving them a false history and trying to convince them to "return them to their calvnistic roots"?
12:24 //// the unequal scales seem one of the best points I've heard as to why Calvinism is so very wrong!! Yes, God hates unequal scales and He (above all) is not unjust and unfair!! God will not be (rightly) accused of having unequal scales!!
@johndavidwitt, I am not a Calvinist but the Calvinist is right that John 3:16 reveals that only those whosoever believes in Jesus Christ can be saved...
21:30 To add to your point about praying for God's will to be done on earth as it is in heaven... Noticed in verse 11 that the word 'counsel' in the phrase "counsel of His will" is the Greek word 'boulen', which is the exact word used in Luke 7:30, where the Pharisees and lawyers rejected the "counsel of God". Calvinists are adamant that His counsel is undeniable and cannot be rejected by mere created man. And yet clearly on earth, man can choose to reject it...
Great video. I think Ephesians 1:4 is not properly understood if you read over "in him" without grasping the concept. Believers, those who are in Christ, are predestinated to be holy and without blame. This is only possible once you accept Christ as your Savior. There are numerous passages that describe God's irreversible Grace to the believer upon believing in the Gospel, but I like to use Philippians 1:5-6. God began a good work in us (the moment we chose to believe and are eternally saved) and will perform it (the indwelling of the Holy Spirit) until we are glorified (the redemption of our body), hence we are "predestinated."
Thank you for exposing yet another example of how Calvinists have "upgraded" the Bible by neutralizing yet another inconvenient verse. Praises ever be for Theodor Beza and other "translators" who corrected the errors of the Textus Receptus so that the Geneva Bible could give True Calvinist Testimony! Praises ever be to Beza's gift of Latin which he turned to the Service of Calvinistic Truth. Praise also the successors of Beza who, even today, upgraded the Bible to conform to the True Holiness of Calvin's Institutes. Pay no heed to the foul slanderers who claim that Beza's other work of homoerotic love verses is Gay Pornography.
Amen Brother. The TULIP is the devils favorite flower. First John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only, but for the sins of the whole world. First Corinthians 1;21 For after that, by the wisdom of God, the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God, by the foolishness of preaching (First Corinthians 15:1-4) to save them that BELIEVE. God is no respecter of persons and will save anyone who accepts His free gift of eternal life. John 6:47. God cannot lie. John 5:24.
@@lvreformissionary HOGWASH. First John 2:2. First Timothy 2:4, John 3:16 John 6:40. John 12:32. Acts 16:31. First Corinthians 1:21. John 3:18. Romans 6:23. For the wage of sin is death, physical death, but the GIFT of God is eternal life, through Jesus Christ our Lord. Not faith, and not a reward for good behavior, but a free gift. First John 5:13. These things have I written unto you that BELIEVE on the name of the Son of God, that ye may KNOW YE HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. Second Peter 3:9. It is Gods will that everyone believe the truth of the gospel and be saved. First Corinthians 15:1-4. But God in His sovereignty gave man a free will to choose whether to believe it or not. John 3:16-18. God is not respecter of persons. He will save anyone who accepts His free gift of eternal life. Paid in full by His one blood sacrifice for the sins of the whole world. But, John 3:18. Romans 1:16. For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, First Corinthians 15:1-4, for it is the POWER of God unto salvation to everyone that BELIEVETH, to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Galatians 1:6-9 Though we or an angel from heaven preach any other gospel unto you than that we have preached unto you, LET THEM BE ACCURSED. As we said before, so say I again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received from us, LET HIM BE ACCURSED. ANATHAMA.
@@lvreformissionary Romans 2:11. KJV. Romans 3:23. Romans 3:9-10. First John 1:8. First John 5:13. These things have I written unto you that BELIEVE on the name of the Son of God, that ye may KNOW YE HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. Present tense. John 5:24. John 6:47. First John 2:2. Romans 1:16.
@@lvreformissionary John 3:16. God offers the free gift to everyone. Calvinism says he only died for some people. First John 2:2. Romans 1:16. And we do not persevere in the faith to stay saved. Second Timothy 2:13. And we do not get the seal of the Holy Spirit until after we believe the gospel, not before. Ephesians 1:13-14. Ephesians 4:30. The gift of God is eternal life. Not faith or a reward for good behavior. First John 5:13.
Calvinist are trusting in their own works. Not Jesus finished work on the cross plus nothing. Romans 11:6. The verse Calvinist hate. Romans 4:5. But to him that worketh not, but BELIEVETH on Him who JUSTIFIETH the UNGODLY, his faith is counted for His perfect RIGHTEOUSNESS. Romans 4:6. Romans 8:9. Without the Spirit there is no salvation. With the Spirit we have eternal life. Ephesians 1:13-14. Hebrews 13:5. For He Hath said, I will never leave you or forsake you. I have never heard a Calvinist say they are not one of the chosen. Because they are trusting in their works. Matthew 7:21-23. Those that are trusting in their own works are told, depart from me ye that work iniquity, I never knew you. Not I did know you and now I don't, I never KNEW YOU. Your trusted in what you did, not what I did for you. John 6:40, and John 6:29.
Calvinist seem to work very hard to protect their doctrine from the scriptures. Yet, their own champion Charles Spurgeon didn’t do that. He just preached the text.
Another great video. I'm working on one as well that I will soon put out about this awful cancer in the church. Thank you for your firm stand for the truth.
Well done!!! this man made doctrine is clever, yet we can pray that those we love/ care about will be drug out of this convoluted mess.. which even has to add secondary means or prescriptive will verses ugh anyway hopefully they sense a nudge from the Holy Spirit who is here convicting the world of sin and of righteousness absolutley if we are not in Him alone then -ugh😢 I don't think everyone who claims so be a calvinist understands the systematic, but I know it hurts many people who are unaware imo🌻 John 16:8 NKJV - “And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
REVERSE READING They reverse the order of Gods revelation They don't say God so loved the elect that He gave His only Son (John 3:16) That is what they mean because God saves only the elect Whether they say it or not their theology must mean that is what they believe Therefore they justify what they say The elect are the ones who have become the chosen when they receive Him When you are in Christ He is Chosen We only become the elect when we receive what God gives Then we will have been chosen because we are in Christ Not to get into Him To as many as received Him to them He gave Power to become Sons of God. John 1:12 The way Calvinism puts it reverses the order The reason the Bible puts it that way is because that's the way it is Anything else is presupposition
@John-Christchu, You are the one who reverse the scriptures, You said that you become the elect after you received Christ.. Where did you get that belief? Ah, that was taught to you by either Leighton or Kevin Thompson. They are both wrong, don't be deceived. John 3:16 reveals Limited Atonement.. Only those whosoever believes in Christ are the only ones who can be saved and they are the elect.. The rest are the reprobates that cannot be saved because they are the children of the devil.. Exmple of the children of the devil can be found in John 8:44
@@reynaldodavid2913Jo Must be a different world John 3:16 reveals no such thing Calvinism reads itself into scriptures totally ignoring the context written and then claims to be right I've been reading the Bible and following Jesus for over 40 years I've heard and at times believed many things that proved to be not true I should have listened to and trusted the Holy Spirit because the scripture turned out to be just as it is written ...I do hope your not accusing me of being a murderer No idea of context
5:50 "WORKS'?.....Ironically, as a true Calvinist, even John MacArthur doesn't know for sure if he has the necessary "Gift of Perseverance" as required by his doctrine of TULIP. Nobody can ever know if the have 'it' or will get 'it' while they are still fogging a mirror. Calvinism affords no such assurance. They claim all people are born hating God and none can, or would, profess Christ apart from God's effectual, forceful, deliberate action upon them causing them to make that claim. And this is only done to a lucky few who were 'elected' to be saved before the world was born. And, according to their doctrine of 'Total Depravity', NO 'unregenerate' would, or ever could, profess Christ, they simply can't. However, that is a double-edged sword. Because the same is also true for anyone who later abandons their profession of faith in Christ, as some do. Any demonstration of apostasy is merely another manifestation of God's decree. That's the fly in Calvin's ointment. John Calvin called it 'Evanescent Grace'. A fake temporary faith which God gives to some, causing them to believe and live convincingly "as-if" they're saved. But, only for a time... sometimes a long time... sometimes a lifetime... but God later withdraws that 'faith' and they go to Hell and eternal damnation because he never loved them anyway. Their entire Christian experience was just an illusion for God's own pleasure. He created them as vessels of wrath for destruction, from the foundation of the world and they never even knew it. If it is true, and God does that to some... no one ever knows if he's doing it to them. A Calvinist cannot even trust in their own profession of faith. Neither can they point to any Christian activities or desires as 'evidence' of salvation because none of these are choices of their 'own' but merely a manifestation of God's eternal predestined decree for them today which may not last until tomorrow. We'll just have to wait and see if their faith is the real stuff. But they'll never know for sure until they're dead. And we who are left behind are just left to wonder if they 'made it' or not. End result: They are worshiping a God who cannot be trusted to love any one... for certain. It's a lie... but that's Calvinism folks. It's just never spoken of much out loud because it's too UGLY to think about. And, since even man's choice to believe and accept Christ is supposedly 'all God', you're either picked to be "In" or you're "out". And there's nothing that can be done about it anyway. God's the great Seinfeld 'Soup Nazi' in the sky..... "NO GRACE FOR YOU!" Whether they realize it yet or not, all Calvinists are just whistling past the graveyard and hoping for the best.
@@reynaldodavid2913Jo Reynaldo, as you must remember, we've "tangoed" before. Few things were as unproductive IMO. However, to answer your question; First, I did not 'trample the Calvinist'. My contention is always with Calvinism. Not those who have fallen prey and have become convinced by its web of deception. My statements may be 'direct' and perhaps even seem combative, but they are firmly grounded in the unavoidable consequences of Calvinist doctrine. It's interesting and predictable, almost boring, that whenever most Calvinists are confronted with their own doctrine stated in plain language, absent their preferred euphemisms, they recoil and try to explain and defend what cannot be explained or defended. In the end the conversation ends one of two ways, or both. 1. You just don't understand Calvinism. 2. Who are you to question God? LOL. They can never seem to accept that any one rejects Calvinism because they DO understand it. And... they cannot grasp that it is not God, but Calvinism being questioned. Second, as regarding my own salvation: I believe the God of the Bible can be trusted to save whosoever will believe, just as he promised. I have believed for over 60yrs and I have no doubt he will honor his promise and his word. In a sentence, Yes, I am sure I am saved. As I said, an honest Calvinist who understands their doctrine can never say that about anyone, even the man in the mirror.
If OSAS is not true then youre constantly looking to yourself to make sure youre maintaining salvation - it becomes about your good works. The only way around that is to believe once youre born again you are forever born again. Im happy to see you believe that as well
Osas is the reason why there are 700 victims over 20 years with 400 baptist leaders abusing children, this is very sick and disgusting as these heretics who believe that no sin can keep them out of heaven prey upon the innocent children in their congregations, some churches rallying around their pastor accused the child of being a little temptress, trashing one or more of their own families, this is the disgusting wicked fruit of osas, Jesus Himself said what would be better than to offend one of these little ones that believe in Him, oh wait osas fixes that too, right.... The wicked fruit of osas is out there for all to see and these incredulous people will defend these sick twisted perverts!!! And still claim that osas is all that and a bazillion bags of Doritos.
Being chosen in Christ before creation would have to mean that the elect get out of Christ when they are born and are no longer chosen/elect at that point. They are as dead as corpses and need to be made alive/regenerated so that they can believe and be made alive. There are so many more contradictions in Calvinism. 🤦
100% CORRECT. Yet a Calvinist will give you a 36-minute dissertation on Adam and Eve not having a choice and then suggest 14 books you should read in order to understand it better.
Calvinists love to frontload and backload the gospel. Some Calvinist theologians have an Elitist attitude because they believe Jesus only died for them. They forget the scripture 1John 2:2. They believe that God is Soverign where He forces you to believe or resist Him, which is heresy. Jesus died for all, and everyone has the opportunity to believe in Him. John Calvin used his own soveignty to murder whoever didn't believe his theology.
Is it elitist to believe God had to intervene in order for you to be saved because of the destructive depth of your sin or is it elitist to believe you are so wise that you can use your fallen willpower to turn to God and receive the Gospel?
@@tyronedawson8553 It is Elitist to think God only died for you when He died for the whole world. 1 John 2:2. Jesus already did all the work. There is no work that I do to be saved.
@joshuacoble355 Propitiation properly signifies the removal of wrath by the offering of a gift. Is it your view that Jesus removed Gods wrath from the world (believers and unbelievers), or that Jesus propriation is only applied to believers. It's obvious that in the first case, your interpretation is one step away from universalism. If Jesus died for the world, why isn't the world saved. However, if we understand the world to be a reference to the types of people Jesus would save (jew and gentile), we have a different scenario. What is your understanding?
@tyronedawson8553 No, it is not universalism. Jesus died for all the sins of the whole world. However, it doesn't mean that everyone will receive by faith. If I bake cookies for all the children in the classroom as a gift to the class, it doesn't mean all the children will take a cookie. According to Calvinism, I would only bake cookies for a select few.
Do you happen to have a John 6:44 video? Thank you, I appreciate your heart for Jesus Christ and exposing calvinism's perversion of the Gospel message.
Romans 9:10-13 King James Version 10 And not only this; but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, even by our father Isaac; 11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;) 12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger. 13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated. -By your definition this is God using unjust scales.-14:26 14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid. 15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. 16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy. 17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth. 18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth. 19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will? 20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? 21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? 22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: 23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory, John 6:35-44 35 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst. 36 But I said unto you, That ye also have seen me, and believe not. 37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. 38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. 39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. 40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. 41 The Jews then murmured at him, because he said, I am the bread which came down from heaven. 42 And they said, Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? how is it then that he saith, I came down from heaven? 43 Jesus therefore answered and said unto them, Murmur not among yourselves. 44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
Predestination is merely Two roads ( paths) . One to salvation The other to destruction. If you take this road or that road GOD has told us where each will end for us . We choose which road , our free will .
Yep, you are spot on! Why would Jesus even tell us that in Matthew 7 if the path we are on was predetermined by God anyway? Just for fun facts? LOL. Not at all, Jesus actually commands us, "enter at the strait gate..." which is the narrow path to life. He even warns us of the end result of the broad way which is destruction. Yes, you are right. We choose.
Soooooo if everything in our life is predestined do they believe God made us predestined to sin.. just to go through all this then made just a few of us to come back to him then some just to burn in hell for eternity. do they think this just dont sound right why would God judge people that he made just to burn in hell anyways? thats saying at judgement God is gonna look at someone say hey i made you so that youd never believe in me but now im gonna judge you for that an send you to hell.....
Yes, it is a quite a blasphemous charge against God but Calvinists teach that even though God made many with no ability to believe the Gospel and therefore not chosen for salvation and are predestined to hell, that God is still righteously judging them to hell because the fact remains they sinned. They call this accountability for sin though not elected by God for having any ability to be saved "compatibilism" and it is utter inconsistent nonsense.
I just read the verse this morning and it brought a whole new revelation for me. ”Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: but every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.“ James 1:13-15 Lusts are our fleshly/carnal desires. I like one of the commentaries in my Bible, “…to be drawn away and enticed like a fish is baited to bite a hook and is then pulled from the water to its death.” His never tempts us to sin. Just like he warned Cain that sin was crouching at the door. But He can turn everything that was meant for evil, for the good.
@@Nicole_y1 that's the messed up thing if they gone say everything is predestined by God that makes no need for Satan why would we have be tempted by him if it was predestined to happen anyways when they take freewill out of the bible it makes God out to be the devil also.
Our God is a God of love and I find it very hard to believe that He would make many people with no chance or hope of salvation to just be sent to Hell to perish. Yes we are sinners and the wages of sin are death, but Christ on the cross had paid the price for our sin. Jesus died for every single person who will ever live, but not everyone has chosen or will chose Him. Calvinism sounds like a cruel caste system saying that some are elected to heaven and some are elected to hell. This sounds like a doctrine straight out of the pits of hell .
Why would you put the tilip .....how about the rose HE JESUS IS THE ROSE OF SHARON ....WHY NT THE LILY HE JESUS THE LILY OF THE VALLEY ..HE IS MY SAVIOUR ....IM IN LOVE WITH JESUS
Conditional once saved always saved is true. Unconditional once saved always saved is wrong. Its because the important doctrines about sinnature and sanctification also is needed to be teached, preached and understood correctly. To remain in our salvation it is needed to have victory over sin.
Where does Scripture teach to remain in our salvation we must have victory over sin? It doesn't say that anywhere. ...except maybe in the same man made doctrine the Calvinist live by. But it isn't Scriptural. And if it's not in the Bible, it can't be sound Biblical doctrine.
@dankmartin6510 No, it wasn't in vain. He wanted to present all saints as if perfect, but it wasn't a salvation issue. It was a rewards Issue at the judgment seat of Christ.
Thank you for ministry and your explanation of the false beliefs of the TULIP. I have learned from you and other excellent pastors and teachers like you. May I recommend just a few. Not By Works Dr. J B Hixson, Northland Bible Baptist Church Pastor Thomas M Cucuzza. Landmark Baptist College Philippines with Dr Phil Stringer. Dr Stringer has a 14 video series on The Dangers Of Calvinism that is just excellent You are an excellent source of information and I greatly appreciate your knowledge on this subject....
If you are foolish enough to follow Calvinism, then you are loosing your salvation, and have no one to blame but yourself. Martin Luther is not far behind.
That's not true. There are many well meaning Calvinists who are born again and just have grown up in it and can't see the Bible any other way. Yes there are many who are prideful and arrogant - even John Piper admitted those types of personalities are drawn to Calvinism, but not everyone is like that.
I appreciate your work and content brother 🙏🏼 I went to a G3 conference and it was a major wake up through the Holy Spirit. It was shocking the things I experienced and heard.
Praise the Lord for you getting through that sort of indoctrination efforts and for the Holy Spirit leading you into truth. G3 is all about defending and promoting Calvinism. No thanks!
AMEN, Brian!! Fantastic outlining and comparison of God's word and the perverted version that the calvinists have fallen for. 🏆 SALVATION IS BY GRACE THROUGH and not by deeds and works... rewards come after one has believed... that 5 point flower-system of those pride-filled works-trusters sucks and leads people who choose to believe the calvinistic garbage straight to hell.
Deuteronomy 4:36 Out of heaven he made thee to hear his voice, that he might instruct thee: and upon earth he shewed thee his great fire; and thou heardest his words out of the midst of the fire. 37 And because he loved thy fathers, therefore heCHOSE their seed after them, and brought thee out in his sight with his mighty power out of Egypt;
If John 3:16 is for everyone why does Ephesians 5:25 say Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it. Is the world the church is the church the world? The word So is an adverb it shows and tells how he loved. It modify the word love. It does not say he loved so much it says he so loved in this fashioned. He died for many the scripture also says so what are you trying to say? Whosoever is not in the Greek text at all. I’m not a Calvinist at alllllll and don’t agree with all Calvin says. But predestination was here and taught before Calvin was born.
thank you for this. can you please help me to understand how calvinist thinks their saved? you can't get born again without believing on Christ. Calvinist is mind boggling!
Some Calvinists were first believers in the true Gospel and got saved before getting indoctrinated by the false teachers of Calvinism. That is why Calvinism is a Satanic infiltration into Christianity. It is a cult like perversion of true Christianity designed by Satan to pervert God's Word in such a way to lead many astray, including many who were born again. I don't believe they lose salvation because they got deceived and confused about what is the true Gospel they first believed. However, I am well aware that there are many Christians that don't agree with me on that point and think all Calvinists are unsaved.
Some of the responses I get from Calvinists regarding these verses are that you can't even believe if you are not one of the "elect", and that Paul's conversion proves that unconditional election is true. Also, that regeneration doesn't proceed faith, but that it happens simultaneously. That's how its been explained to me. I AM NOT a Calvinist, btw. Reject it completely, but this is what they tell me. They also always quote to me Romans 3:10-18 for Total Depravity and just laugh at me whenever I mention context. I dont know how to respond to these people anymore
The phrase God must show his wrath for glory, it's not making him sound righteous for judgement on wicked people but a bully who picks on the weak kid so everyone will look at him like he's a tough guy. If God is slow to wrath and ultimately what's mercy for ppl his first objective is to show love to people. But we as humans don't always expect that love/correction and that's when he will use other methods and if you've totally gone down the road of evil he will wipe u off the map so your evil doesn't spread. We serve the God who's love supersede any idea of love. He loves people who at every turn avoid him but yet his son came for all of before you ever stopped sinning and gave your life to him
Stopping sin and giving your life to Christ have absolutely nothing to do with salvation at all. Absolutely nobody has ever been saved by giving their life to Christ. You don't receive a gift by giving anything for it. That is bartering your life for salvation and is a Satanic counterfeit gospel message. We are saved because He gave His life for us and we trust Him alone for salvation. *This means that saving repentance is realizing that you are a sinner deserving of God's just punishment in Hell and turn (repent) from whatever you trusted in before, if indeed you trusted in anything; to trusting in the person and finished work of Christ alone for salvation.*
The first perversion of Calvinism from John 3:16 is the word "LOVE". They would interpret the verse as "For God so loved [the Elect] that [as the Elect is drawn to Him] [The Elect] should not perish, but have eternal life [as long as they keep the Lordship of Christ]".
i thought predestination is in the bible, but so is free will ie: i loved Jacob but hated Esau.. why not preach all scripture regardless of if "it sounds" Calvinistic or free willish.. do "labels" matter all that much?
I do preach/teach it all. I have a video on Ephesians 1 about predestination that proves it is nothing like Calvinists teach it. I also have a video on Romans 9 and when you add context and actually read the words on the page, suddenly Calvinism looks like a ridiculous attempt to repackage God's Word in an egregiously false systematic way.
@@faithonfireministries I feel at times it can b a tricky maze to navigate through. I started off free will but later pivoted towards Calvinism but now am somewhere in between. I sometimes watch debates on the subject & still find it a bit puzzling. blessings 🙏
God's grace saves those that abide in Him as true disciples until the end. John 3, 14, John 15, 1John1, James 5:20, Rev 2 & 3, James 5:21, Matt 10, hypocrites are spoken of in Matthew 7, John 15, Matt 3:10. God seeks those that love Him as much as He loves us, unto death, there's no greater love
The problem I have with “once saved always saved” is that a well known minister was asked if a homosexual comes to know the Lord and give his heart to the Lord. The minister was asked. If this person continue to practice homosexuality after he got saved, will he go to heaven? The minister answer was “absolutely yes.” What’s your take on that answer. Thanks
If that person were to ask if a liar had been given the gospel and they believed it then afterwards tell a lie are they still saved? How about about someone that’s constantly worrying and then they believe the gospel yet afterwards they go back to living a life of worrying. Jesus commands us not to worry and any commandment that he gives and it’s not followed is a sin. Are they still saved? Or how about a person who has anger issues and they believe the gospel yet go back to road raging and being angry with their spouse and kids. Are they still saved? I’m sure glad that ALL of my sins were forgiven the moment I believed in Jesus Christ for the remission of them. You should rejoice that once you’re saved you don’t have to work to stay saved because of you did then you wouldn’t be saved because you fall into sin like the rest of us do.
Not a preferred outcome but yes the person is saved if they have believed on Jesus. There are consequences, however, in this life and the next, but loss of eternal salvation is not one of them!
This is baffling to me John 3:16 even implies free will. I think everybody is stuck on the word whosoever instead of the complete phrase whosoever believeth in him. And we all know the dead men can't do anything. That they are dead in trespasses and sins they're born after Adam.. they are dead blind and can't do anything. Unless God draws us to himself makes us alive while we were dead gives us ears to hear and eyes to see we can never believe the gospel. The Bible says faith is a gift and Christ is the author and finisher of it. We take zero credit for salvation and have no confidence in the flesh. Jesus said I lay down my life for the sheep. He also said to the Pharisees you do not believe because you are not my sheep. My sheep hear my voice and I know them and they follow me and the voice of a stranger they will not recognize.. obviously speaking of the hearing of faith. I could go on and on but salvation is of the Lord it is not an opportunity provided for a bunch of people who are all the same. There are wheat and tares sheep and goats the Kingdom of light a kingdom of darkness.. there are those four known of God and there are those who are of their father the devil. The scripture is quite clear in so many ways
Calvinism doesnt even make it out of Genesis: God commanded Adam and Eve to not eat the Apple, then Satan arrived and tempted Eve - if you go with the Calvinist world-view then either God has secret commands that arent in the Bible or Satan's temptations are more powerful than God's commands. The simplest, most logical, and most Biblical reading is that Adam and Eve choose disobedience, and by logical extension people today to the same exact thing even though they have the added benefit of the Holy Spirit convicted them of their sin.
Are the words "adoption as sons" in Ephesians 1:5 referring to justification or glorification? Ephesians 1:5 NKJV [5] having predestined us to adoption as sons by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will,
I appreciate your channel. Just found it. Not sure yet about everything. But I listened to Macarthur way back. 25 years ago on Christian radio. I was blessed by his sermons. But was always concerned about his views and hard stance on predestination. Now more than ever, we need people who are willing to challenge doctrines that deviate from the Bible. What do you think about the Bible changes that are taking place?
Calvinism, when quoting Romans 8:30..."and those whom he predestined he also called"...YOU need to go back to verse 29, "For those whom he FOREKNEW he also predestined to be conformed..." In other words, God called us because he already knew we would believe so he predestined us to be the image of his Son and do good works. Verse 29 seems to be left out when quoting Romans 8:30 regarding Calvinist's? God Bless
I totally agree, I started my walk with the Lord in a Southern Baptist church, but when doing my own bible study I found scriptures that did not agree with once saved always saved, and started asking questions, after a few times, I was told I was being bad or naughty and just to believe it because they said so. ENH wrong answer, Act 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so. 1Th 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. 2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 2Ti 2:16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness. also (Deu 4:2, Deu 12:32, Deu 17:11, Deu 28:14, Jos 1:7 2Ch 34:2, Ezr 6:11, Psa 56:5, Psa 89:39, Psa 119:126, Pro 4:27, Pro 30:6, Jer 23:36, Jer 26:2, Eze 5:6, Mat 5:18, Mat 15:1-9, Mar 7:1-13, Rom 1:25, 2Co 2:17, 2Co 4:2, 2Pe 1:20-21, 2Pe 3:16, Rev 22:18-19) Also see, (Exo 25:9,40, Exo 26:30, Num 8:4, 1Chr 28:11-12, Heb 8:5) God does not like his word to be added to or taken away from by anyone, and church or any denomination period. but from what I have experienced, various denominations all lay claim to "rightly dividing" God's word and go off into la-la land with their "interpretations" based on "rightly dividing" God did not give us rightly dividing so that we could use it to add to or take away from His word and call it good. By the way look up The Houston Chronicle and San Antonio Sun joint report on "Abuse of faith" this cornicles 20 years of court documents of cases of predatory abuse within the Baptist (SBC) 700 victims over 20 years by 400 pastors, deacons, youth pastors, and church run school principles/teachers, for even further study there is a very good resource "the big book of bad Baptist preachers" which chronicles 100 cases of abuse with names, dates, and sentencing. A denomination is defined as existing within a specific country. There are 33,000+ total of these "Christian denominations" in 238 total countries. These 33,000 are subdivided into "6 major ecclesiastical-cultural mega-blocs", and ordering them by denomination size we have (I am rounding up or down slightly for convenience, using the year 2000 figures) : Independents (about 22000) Protestants (about 9000) "Marginals" (about 1600) Orthodox (781) Roman Catholics (242) Anglicans (168) So the 33,000 number is from the total of these 6 mega-blocs: 22000 + 9000 + 1600 + 781 + 242 + 168 = 33,000+ so which one is the church that Jesus started? Mat 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. Jesus started His church and it has never been prevailed against, and has come down to us just as pure as it was when Jesus started it, to claim that a denomination or church is just restoring what Jesus started are liars, if you have to restore it, then it fell, and needed restoration, which Jesus said even the gates of hell would not prevail against His church. Again which one of the above 33,000 is the one Jesus started? none of the above, His church is still here having come down to us as is from the time He started it, all others have come after and are man made.
@@kimwestwood8840 It is something that man has taught that the Bible says, and not really what the bible says. 1Co 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 1Co 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 1Co 6:11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Gal 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Gal 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. Mar 3:28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme: Mar 3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation: Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. Rev 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: Rev 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. These are very specific things that God says if you do them you will not inherit the kingdom of God, 400 Southern Baptist pastors and others in leaderships positions, you know those who also preach and teach osas, molested 700 victims one of which was only 3 years old, and many of them were boys. osas made that possible, when you tell people that no sin no matter what it is nor how much of it you do can keep you out of Heaven after you have made a profession of Christ, you open the door to all of those sins and more. Charles Stanley was answering a letter from a woman about her son who had been saved but then said that God was ok with his new lifestyle, asked if her son would go to Heaven when he died having given himself to that lifestyle. Dr. Stanley affirmed that if he had been saved, that yes even though he now denied the truth of God's word and was practicing that lifestyle, if he died he would go to Heaven, of course Dr. Stanley said he would lose his rewards. So let me get this straight, all the sins that I committed before I got saved would keep me out of Heaven, but after I got saved, if i do those very same sins, I still have Heaven in the bag according to baptist theology, ya no thanks, I do not want any part of a religion that claims that the same sins that would bar you from Heaven before salvation will not keep you out of Heaven after salvation. Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, Heb 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. Heb 10:28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: Heb 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? Heb 10:30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. Heb 10:31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
@@kimwestwood8840 Do you believe you are already saved? Then why hold fast, stand firm, run the race, fight the fight, don't fall away, don't stumble, work out, continue, etc? Because salvation is not an event in your past, it is a journey you are on and a relationship to be fostered. The Bible describes salvation in 3 tenses: you are saved, you are being saved, and you will be saved. In that regard, none of us are more than 50% saved: we've completed step 1 and are half-way through step 2. You need to continue in belief and not fall from grace through unbelief... which is exactly what the Bible says.
Mar 3:28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme: Mar 3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation: Mar 3:30 Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit. 1Co 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 1Co 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Gal 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Gal 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. Rev 3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels. Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. Rev 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: Rev 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. The word of God is clear, people that do these things listed will not inherit the kingdom of God period, you do not get to change it, or interpret it away or explain it away. A Baptist preacher with a well known ministry told a woman who wrote him about her son, that if he had been saved he would still go to Heaven even thought he was living in horrible sin. The SBC is in terrible shape, 400 of their ministers/leaders went through the court system and were sentenced for what they did to children. the repor was called "Abuse of Faith"
@@RezG_777 They do not like this about Judas. Mat 10:1 And when he had called unto him his twelve disciples, he gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease. Mat 10:2 Now the names of the twelve apostles are these; The first, Simon, who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother; James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother; Mat 10:3 Philip, and Bartholomew; Thomas, and Matthew the publican; James the son of Alphaeus, and Lebbaeus, whose surname was Thaddaeus; Mat 10:4 Simon the Canaanite, and Judas Iscariot, who also betrayed him. Mat 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: Mat 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Mat 10:7 And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand. Mat 10:8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give. Mat 10:9 Provide neither gold, nor silver, nor brass in your purses, Mat 10:10 Nor scrip for your journey, neither two coats, neither shoes, nor yet staves: for the workman is worthy of his meat. Mat 10:11 And into whatsoever city or town ye shall enter, enquire who in it is worthy; and there abide till ye go thence. Mat 10:12 And when ye come into an house, salute it. Mat 10:13 And if the house be worthy, let your peace come upon it: but if it be not worthy, let your peace return to you. Mat 10:14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet. Mat 10:15 Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city. Judas was given the same power of the Holy Ghost to heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead AND cast out devils, satan and the Holy Ghost cannot abide in the same temple at the same time, Judas went out with the other 11 sent out as 12 with the power of the Holy Ghost. Mat 12:24 But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils. Mat 12:25 And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand: Mat 12:26 And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand? Joh 13:1 Now before the feast of the passover, when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own which were in the world, he loved them unto the end. Joh 13:2 And supper being ended, the devil having now put into the heart of Judas Iscariot, Simon's son, to betray him; Joh 13:24 Simon Peter therefore beckoned to him, that he should ask who it should be of whom he spake. Joh 13:25 He then lying on Jesus' breast saith unto him, Lord, who is it? Joh 13:26 Jesus answered, He it is, to whom I shall give a sop, when I have dipped it. And when he had dipped the sop, he gave it to Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon. Joh 13:27 And after the sop Satan entered into him. Then said Jesus unto him, That thou doest, do quickly Act 1:15 And in those days Peter stood up in the midst of the disciples, and said, (the number of names together were about an hundred and twenty,) Act 1:16 Men and brethren, this scripture must needs have been fulfilled, which the Holy Ghost by the mouth of David spake before concerning Judas, which was guide to them that took Jesus. Act 1:17 For he was numbered with us, and had obtained part of this ministry. Act 1:18 Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out. Act 1:25 That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place. It was not until the very end of Jesus' earthly ministry that satan entered into Judas and not before or Judas would not have been able to go with the other 11 as Jesus had sent the 12. The key verse is Acts 1:25 Judas by way of transgression FELL, you cant fall away if you do not have anything to fall from, in the beginning, Judas was clean and why the Holy Ghost could empower him to heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead and cast out devils. it was not until the last supper that satan put it into Judas heart to betray Jesus, and then only after the sop given by Jesus to Judas at the last supper, when satan entered into Judas. There are so many scriptures against osas its not funny, what is even more funny, (funny strange) is how they will back peddle and dance around various scriptures that pose major problems for their doctrine, I have come to hate how denominations will do whatever bible flipflops back peddling, interpretations, explanations, and the like to save their doctrines from the scriptures rather than to simply acknowledge that their doctrine is wrong. I left the Baptist denomination because of osas, it was my deal breaker, and where I am now i have problems with what is practiced vs what thus saith the word of God.
Yes. He preached one must repent of their sins first to be saved. He also was the father of ecumenism for the Vatican and World Council of Churches (I think that one) and he convinced and took 3000 evangelical pastors to Rome to sign agreements that Roman Catholicism is biblical Christianity. He believed all men of good will, no matter what god they worshiped, will be saved by Jesus. At his public meeting altar calls, he connected people to the church denomination they said they were raised in or last attended. If a Jew said they were just saved, they were taken to a waiting Rabbi, if they were Roman Catholic, they were taken to a waiting priest. He was contracted by local churches ( they paid the money for him to preach his meetings), he wasn't an independent preacher seeking the lost, he was a hireling. People were saved from his biblical quotations, because the Word saves, not Billy. He was a good orator and charismatic personality.
@@WithoutGodYouCantDoDiddlySquat I remember reading an article in a November 1993 issue of Time magazine, where he stated , Quote . The virgin birth of Christ is a tender issue.But ! It is not necessary for one’s salvation! I still recall the exact quote!
@@timharper5543 That maybe confirms the belief that it's true - some who knew him, said that he was a 33rd degree Freemason. Their god is Lucifer, the light bearer, Jesus is evil.
I never knew what Calvinism was, but I understood from the Bible that predestination has to be true, otherwise God is not omniscient. But even the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Fear not therefore: ye are of more value than many sparrows. Luke 12:7 I have always said that faith is most like intuition or instinct. And faith is the gift of God. It is a knowing that is given to us by God, a knowing that we cannot otherwise explain. We just know because God caused us to know. When people do not come to God, I understand it is because God is not calling them. John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. John 6:65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father. Matthew 16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. It really is all about God! Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. Even the faith that saves us is a gift from God. The thing about predestination is that God is the only one who knows how it turns out. We are not privy to it. Therefore, we have to live our lives one moment at a time constantly making choices that we have no idea we will be faced with, until we are faced with them. We also have no idea what choices we will make, until we make them. However, God already knows. God knew exactly what would happen in the garden of Eden. That is why He put the tree of the knowledge of good and evil there. He did not have to let the serpent in Eden. It was in the plan of salvation from the beginning. Adam's sin was not a failure of God. It was His plan. That is why Revelation says that the Lamb was slain from the foundation of the world. It was already in the plan. It is all about us coming back to God in repentance and falling on His mercy; and who will and who will not. We are ordained to salvation, even before we believe. Acts 13:48 And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed. 2 Thessalonians 2:13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: Ephesians 1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, Ephesians 1:11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will: Romans 8:29-30 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified. John 17:24 Father, I will that they also, whom thou has given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world. 1 Peter 1:2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied. Ephesians 1:4 According as he has chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Hebrews 4:3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. Revelation 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. Revelation 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is. Matthew 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Matthew 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. Luke 18:7 And shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him, though he bear long with them? Romans 8:33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth. Colossians 3:12 Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering; Matthew 20:16 So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen. Matthew 22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen. Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days. 1 Corinthians 1:26-31 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called: But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are: that no flesh should glory in his presence. But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption: That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord. James 2:5 Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him? 1 Peter 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: Revelation 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful. Isaiah 46:9-10 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me, declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure. John 15:16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.
God is omniscient. Why do you think that means God determined who will be saved and who will not be saved? Don't you know that God is all-powerful as well as omniscient which means He gets to choose how man can come about being saved and God did just that. When the Bible says God ordained things and brought things to pass we can trust that is true and believe it, but when the Bible also tells us that regarding salvation by grace through faith, that is a choice we must make to believe and be saved, we should also trust that is true as well. When the Bible says that it is God's will that we all are saved we should trust that and believe God wants everyone to be saved. The fact that people rebel against God and refuse to do His will and remain unbelievers is evidence that God is NOT determining all things and His will is not being done by everyone. If determinism were true and God always gets what He wants then nobody would be lost but everyone would be saved. God's will is not forced upon anyone. That is why people sin to begin with. They are free to do so and influenced and tempted by Satan and the weakness of our flesh. When the Bible says God does not tempt anyone with sin we should trust that and not be charging God with determining us to sin. The problem with Calvinism is that it is a very deceptive lie of Satan that gets people to not trust the Word of God but instead trust in the writings of man, in confessionals, Bible studies and commentaries and in this case reformed systematic theology books and teachers. Allowing oneself to be subject to such influences makes a person get indoctrinated and then when they read the Bible it is through the lens of that system the already accepted as true, and then seeing that system everywhere in Scripture, but it really isn't there at all. You presented lots of Calvinist prooftexts. They are great Bible verses and they are true, but they do not support Calvinism. You are seeing Calvinism in them because you have presuppositions you learned that you want the Bible to say, rather than letting the Bible teach you what it actually says.
On the verse, “Many are called, few are chosen.” : Many were called to the wedding feast in, ”Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage. So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.“ Matthew 22:9-10 The one that didn’t have the the wedding garment was casts into outer darkness. Those that aren’t washed in the Blood of the Lamb-Jesus Christ, will not make it to the Marriage Supper of the Lamb, but will be cast into outer darkness. We are only clothed in the righteousness of Jesus Christ. Many are called. Many are invited to the Marriage Supper of the Lamb, the chosen ones are those who are washed in the Blood of the Lamb. He invites us all, but sadly, not all will have the proper attire because they are not born again. ”I will greatly rejoice in the LORD, my soul shall be joyful in my God; for he hath clothed me with the garments of salvation, he hath covered me with the robe of righteousness, as a bridegroom decketh himself with ornaments, and as a bride adorneth herself with her jewels.“ Isaiah 61:10
@@Nicole_y1 Romans 9:14-24 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid. For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
@@lonnierandall7882 ”And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.“ Revelation 22:17 KJV Emphasis on whosoever.
@@Nicole_y1 All scripture has to be taken together. You can't have one without the other. You can't believe one and ignore the other. God is the only one who already knows whosoever will. He also already knows whosoever won't.
"He is not the author of sin, but he is sovereign over it, and he has decreed it" if God decreed it that makes him the author of it 😑. It's funny because you have the Calvinists say God decreed whatsoever will come to pass. Jeremiah 19:5 says otherwise. Also the verse you quoted from 1 Tim. 2, I've heard Calvinists say that this isn't talking about everyone but rather just "all kinds" of people. Looking at the greek I can see how they could possibly come up with that interpretation but when you look at it in context Paul is clearly talking about everyone.
Brian cannot refute this. Experts of the original Greek language like Strong and Thayer give bible references next to the various possible meanings of the word 'kosmos' or 'world' in their definition, put John 3:16 as the one of the examples of when the word 'kosmos' is used is actually referring to BELIEVERS ONLY. Good luck Brian
How brainwashed do you have to be to believe that the word 'world' is used in Holy, God-breathed Scripture to NOT mean world. The arrogance, the audacity to think you would correct God in order to fit His Word to your own gnostic doctrine. You continue to prove that Calvinism is anti-Gospel to the core.
Why can't I refute that? I'm quite certain I refuted that in this video and in many others. Kosmos means God's Creation and in particular its human inhabitants of His Creation. God did not so love the stars and the moon and the sun and clouds and lions and tigers and bears oh my, that He gave His only begotten son to save those things. And to suggest Kosmos just refers to only believers in the world is just utter nonsense and contradicts lots of Bible verses. I've shared some of them with you but you consistently ignore the truth and keep coming back with more comments trying to defend Calvinism. Give it up already.
17-18 add further context and condemn you blasphemous reading of Scripture but good luck with your non-Apostolic understanding of scripture for you will need it in the end.
Feel free to expose Doug Wilson, he's a Calvinist and promoter of creating Christian communities, my ex church in Australia is creating alliances with him, not good at all. The reason I left (I was never a Calvinist to begin with but just went along due to friends going there).
But you and calvinists are also wrong about Eph 1:3-5. You can only understand it by studying the type shadow of a high priest who REPRESENTS all of the Israel in the tabernacle.
So, a man is saved based upon his own choosing to be so? Or, by something he must perform, i.e. his believing? From where does that faith originate? How does a man with a desperately wicked heart, that is deceitful above all things, choose that which by nature, he hates?
Believing is not something a person "performs." That would suggest that faith is a work and nobody is saved by works. Romans 3: 26-28 specifically says faith (or believing) is excluded from work. So, the Calvinist would like to ignore that reality and call faith a work unless it is given by God as a gift. They misinterpret Ephesians 2: 8,9 for that reason, making the gift of God grace and faith, rather than what it says which is the gift of God is grace (salvation) through faith and not of works. "Total Depravity" is also NOT true but simply a man-made idea straight out of Gnosticism. it is not Biblical but the concept was introduced into Christianity by Augustine and had not been affirmed by any early Church Father before him. The Bible tells us clearly that an unbeliever has the ability to become a believer simply by hearing the Gospel. Faith comes by hearing (Romans 10: 17). The Bible tells us in John 3: 19 why people reject the truth (light) and prefer the darkness, and it is because they choose to love their sin more, not because God caused or decreed them to stay in darkness.
@@faithonfireministries You completely misrepresent what Doctrines of Grace teach and what we believe. You've been thoroughly indoctrinated against the Biblical truth. We absolutely affirm the the faith in Eph. 2 is a gift. What you deny is that faith is a result of having first been made regenerate. You simply will not admit that as a "dead in trespass and sins" un-regenerated person, there is no ability nor, desire for God. You state, "Total Depravity" is also NOT true but simply a man-made idea straight out of Gnosticism. it is not Biblical but the concept was introduced into Christianity by Augustine and had not been affirmed by any early Church Father before him." Yet, Scripture plainly states, "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned". Right there is clearly the doctrine of total depravity; "death passed upon all men, ...all have sinned"! That's all inclusive. Paul is the human author of this so, you are rejecting Paul's authority! Furthermore, before regeneration man cannot nor, will not, believe. As said here, "Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be." So, explain how and why a man who is carnally minded (dead in trespass and sins) is ever going to believe? Also, to "hear" the Gospel or, anything else from God, means to have ears to hear (referencing ability to do so). There is NONE that seek God so, you cannot claim man is looking for Him or, even interested in "hearing" Him. This plainly speaks to both desire and ability. The spiritually dead man has neither. That's what it means to be dead. Separated from the source of life, wisdom and truth (God). Finally, Jer. 19:9 says, "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?" Explain how a person with that heart condition has any desire or ability to believe, choose, etc... the Holy and that which, by nature, is dead to AND hates?! The Holy Bible: King James Version, Electronic Edition of the 1900 Authorized Version. (Bellingham, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc., 2009), Je 17:9. The Holy Bible: King James Version, Electronic Edition of the 1900 Authorized Version. (Bellingham, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc., 2009), Ro 8:7. The Holy Bible: King James Version, Electronic Edition of the 1900 Authorized Version. (Bellingham, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc., 2009), Ro 5:12.
@@faithonfireministries Also, your beliefs are pure Arminian and hence, semi-pelagian which were resoundingly condemned as heretical at Dort. I seriously doubt most of you have any real understanding of the origins of "Calvinism" yet, you speak authoritatively on this. I also doubt you know the Doctrines of Grace were held to WAY before Calvin re-affirmed them at Dort and were the teachings of the true Church (no, not Roman Catholicism) traced all the way to the Apostles. I encourage you to dig into Church history to see what was being held to. Your position make the action of believing a man-made work, choice and merit justifying action on man's ledger. Jesus said it is required to be born-again (John 3). Nicodemus didn't understand this & thought it was something man must accomplish. Jesus set him right by saying, "Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of jwater and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. 8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit." So, the wind is referring to the Holy Spirit therefore, it is God who regenerates based upon His will and choosing. Man has no part. NOT EVEN in believing. Faith does NOT CAUSE salvation. It is the RESULT of it! No clearer proof of this exists than found in John 1:12-13 (which all Arminians conveniently leave off v. 13), "But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. Who willed a person to be born-again? Also, receiving is a totally PASSIVE activity. Man does not actively choose to believe, exercise faith or "make a decision for Christ". These all are works. Regeneration is an action of God whereby He brings to life a dead soul and regenerates that soul. The dead soul only passively receives this action. It is the new birth. The Holy Bible: King James Version, Electronic Edition of the 1900 Authorized Version. (Bellingham, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc., 2009), Jn 1:12-13. The Holy Bible: King James Version, Electronic Edition of the 1900 Authorized Version. (Bellingham, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc., 2009), Jn 3:5-8.
I fully understand the doctrines of grace, so just saying I don’t is a typical Calvinist response when you have no response. I’m not gonna respond to this long comment because pretty much everything you’re talking about I have repeatedly covered in videos.
@@faithonfireministries No, you don't understand them. You comments prove this so. I find it ironic you accuse me of having no response then, say you won't comment on my long response! It is always you "free-will" Arminians who refuse to be held accountable and then, make false accusations about us Sovereign Grace believers. You are a hypocrite. Your teaching is false. You are like Paul pre-conversion: absolutely sure of your position before God yet, absolutely wrong! God opened Paul's eyes to have spiritual sight and understanding. Paul did nothing! But, you insist he had faith! Not until God gave it to him!!! You really better reconsider what you're teaching as just like Saul, you are fighting against the Gospel.
Read Romans 10: 9-17. The context leading up to verse 17 is important regarding salvation and 17 says, "faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God."
@@faithonfireministries Why did you choose to believe? Are you a better person than those who don't believe? More intelligent? You must have a reason you believed while others didn't. Just saying you did believe is not a reason.
@@faithonfireministries My specific question to you is from where did you acquire the faith that justifies? You teach your faith must be "used" or "exercised" which in turn, causes your salvation. Very clear, you teach you have faith that justifies, it causes your salvation or, regeneration. Where did you get that faith?
Scott, read John 3: 19. That is why people choose darkness over the light. They love their sins. I chose to believe on Jesus and despise my sins, loving Him for taking my sins away upon the cross. It is not about how smart a person is, but in fact, it is the Calvinist who actually thinks they are smarter than their unbelieving neighbor. They arrogantly hold to a false doctrine that teaches God predestined them (the elect) to be given the ability (intelligence) to believe and receive spiritual truths such as the Gospel of Christ, while God predestined all others to be withheld from that ability (intelligence). So, it is the Calvinist who believes and teaches they are smarter than their unbelieving neighbor. Yet, if they were really smart they would ditch Calvinism.
“For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast. Ephesians 2:8- 9 KJV ”For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.“ Romans 9:15-16 KJV If you are blessed to be a believer then you understand and believe these verses ! If you do not then you are following a false gospel and not believing according to the scriptures . One’s flesh does not give birth to a saved spirit. The new spirit is a gift of God . Man does nothing, except give God glory by confessing that he is born again as evidence of salvation not causing salvation.
I hate to break it to you, but it appears you do not understand the passages if you think they teach Calvinism. Especially Romans 9 passage which is a favorite prooftext of Calvinists who don't know that there are more chapters after 9. Keep reading! Romans 11 explains whom God has mercy upon now. Here is the passage that explains the follow up from what Paul wrote about mercy in chapter 9. Romans 11, "30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief: 31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy. 32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have *mercy upon all.*
I think every denomination on earth is two thirds wrong just an opinion but Jesus will be screaming at everybody when he gets here not a few of us all if us , the letters to the churches have me convinced of that 🤷♂️
You said “And that’s what the Gospel of John tells us why people choose darkness over the light” Actually John tells us: John 10:26 [26] “but you do not believe because you are not among my sheep.”
Nope, in John 10 Jesus uses the metaphor of sheep regarding all people. He says you are not of "my sheep" solely on the basis they do not believe in Him. He says that believers are His sheep but Jesus also says there are sheep of another fold that will become believers and they will join His sheep and become part of one fold of sheep (The Church, Body of Christ) and He will be their Shepherd. To suggest John 10 supports Calvinism is ridiculous.
@@faithonfireministries “Jesus also says there are sheep of another fold that will become believers and they will join His sheep” John 10:16 [16] “And I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them also, and they will listen to my voice. So there will be one flock, one shepherd.” Hmm, now who could these be? What people were grafted into the vine? I’ll wait for your honest answer.
Verse 25 Jesus told them and they didn't believe. That is why they are not of His sheep. They believed not, because they are not of His sheep. So, those that believe are because they are of His sheep. That does not affirm Calvinism in the slightest but that believing in Jesus is the key differentiator, consistent with John 3: 16 and many other verses.
@@faithonfireministries “They believed not, because they are not of His sheep” He did not not say, you chose not to believe and therefore you are not my sheep. They didn’t believe because they were not His sheep. You have the order reversed.
Thanks to you and others who continue to Refute this Block Head Doctrine within the Body of Christ...Are you still a ECT...Believer though...If so you will be an Annihilationist when you see Jesus Face to Face...Perish means Perish and NOT Eternal Conscious Torment...
@@faithonfireministries Hey Brian...Thanks for the Reply...Your work against Calvinism is very good...In my opinion one of the better more clear Refutations of Calvins Insanity...I pity the Christians stuck in it...About ECT...Please read Edward Fudges Book. "Hell a final word"...The best book on Hell by far...This brother really did his home work...Edward also has videos on YT...Have a great day...Jesus Loves you and so do I...
I’m glad to see you deny Augustine‘s “original sin” doctrine, which is the lie that every person inherits Adams sin when conceived as opposed to inheriting a fallen sinful world that death entered due to sin.
Sorry, but that just isn't true at all. Modern day Calvinists hold conference after conference and the focus is on defending TULIP, not the Gospel. TULIP results in a false gospel of being saved by unconditional election and nothing else. The true Gospel of Christ is a secondary byproduct of being chosen by God for salvation while believing God has passed over others and withheld from them saving grace.
@@faithonfireministries what if we are saved by unconditional election? Does that negate the gospel of Christ in any way? Does it diminish the fact that He died and rose again according to the scriptures and that our sins and the sins of all who believe are forgiven through His life, death and resurrection? I'm not a strict Calvinist and I don't get involved in the philosophy, but I think the great thing about it is the emphasis on original sin. It's not preached too often nowadays. God bless you 🙂
What amazes me is why very few people who write on cults and false teachings keep Calvinism out of it. The way Calvinism views God is seriously up there with JW's and Mormonism. To say that Jesus does not love everyone, did not die for everyone, and does not want all to come to Calvary is a serious error that the Calvinists folk hold onto. Just wow...
If you read the whole chapter, you will see that that verse is in reference to the proselytes, Gentile believers who had converted to Judaism. Unlike the lost religious leaders and Pharisees that rejected Christ the Proselytes were actual old testament saints, who now hearing the true Gospel of Christ became New Testament believers because the truth resonated with them being that they were already saved, already ordained to eternal life.
Their interpretation of John 3: 16 is what I am referring to in regards to Unconditional Election which leads them to not see John 3: 16 as it is written, a promise of eternal life to all who will believe, but rather claim that all those who believe do so only because they were decreed to do so by God choosing them for salvation before time began. Another way to have said it would be that they interpret John 3: 16 to mean "whosoever is elect shall not perish..." However, if you want to talk about biased Bible versions that have faulty translations that were changed to give Calvinism greater credibility, that is a great topic and perhaps I will do a video on that in the future showcasing the examples. I have already discussed that before a time or two. The ESV, NASB and now the LSB are highly biased towards Calvinism and a works based gospel.
Try using the Berean Standard Bible (BSB). It is unbiased! The ESV was made by Crossway which is a Calvinistic/Reformed organization. I actually use the Berean Literal Bible (BLB) whenever I study the New Testament (because it is literal!), though it is not in print yet.
We don't need to worry about John 3:16 norJohn Calvin as much as we need to worry about how denominations today are perverting the gospel concerning our very salvation We are saved by believing that Christ died for our sins at Calvary, was buried and rose again on the 3rd day, 1 Cor 15: 1-4, not John 3:16 which is believe on the name of Jesus, that he was the Messiah. John didn't know anything about the cross when he wrote that. Let's get people saved, times a runnin out!
Huh? Are you saying the Apostle John didn't know about the cross? Maybe I misunderstood what you are saying here, but Apostle John wrote the Gospel of John, his 3 epistles and Revelation as the last books of the New Testament written. All of the NT books were written well after the cross during the early church. John most certainly knew all about Christ's death, burial, resurrection, and accession as he was a witness to all that.
@@faithonfireministries Maybe you misunderstood. Matthew Mark Luke and John did not preach salvation through Christ's atoning death on the cross for our sins, his burial and resurrection on the 3rd day because they didn't know about it. That wasn't revealed until Jesus revealed it to the apostle Paul. MMLJ were believing Christ's Kingdom was coming; they were to repent, be baptized, keep the law; when Jesus said behold we go up to Jerusalem ...he shall be delivered unto the gentiles, and be mocked...and they shall scourge him and put him to death, and on the third day he shall rise again" Luke 18:31- 33. The twelve were with him.John was there. Verse 34: And they understood none of these things., and this saying was hid from them, neither knew they the things that were spoken. But more important, Matt 16:21 From that time forth began Jesus to shew his disciples how that he must go to Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders...and be killed, and be raised on the third day. And Peter began to rebuke him saying, Be it far from thee Lord, this shall not be unto thee! But he turned and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me Satan. Matt: 16: 21-23.They did not know about the cross, Christ's atonement for our sins on the cross. John 3:16- that whosoever believeth in him shall be saved. No cross no atonement. Because the plan of salvation by his atoning death was hid from them Luke 18-34. It was hid from before the world, until it was revealed to Paul by the risen Lord. That was the mystery Paul speaks of.
@@faithonfireministries Contined from my last post, a couple things to clarify: During Jesus' ministry on earth, jews were indeed saved by believing the gospel that he, Jesus, and the apostles preached. Those believing jews are referred to as the flock, or the little flock, as you see mentioned frequently. This sheep/ shepherd theme can be illustrated in Matthew 10:5:6- Jesus said Go not into the way of the Gentiles...but go rather to the lost sheep of Israel. Jesus was gathering his flock together, for his Kingdom. John 21:15-17 Jesus says to Peter feed my lambs, and feed my sheep. The apostles believed that the Messiah's kingdom was coming, at that very time; John the Baptist preached repent, be baptised for the kingdom of heaven is at hand; Jesus said ( Matt 10:7 ) And as ye go, preach, saying, the kingdom of heaven is at hand: Jesus taught the apostles to pray " thy kingdom come;" they were so sure that the Kingdom was at hand that they were selling their possessions, and giving the proceeds to the apostles to distribute to the poor. See the story of Ananais and Sapphira in Acts 5 - where they sold property and kept some of the money. In 5:3 Peter says " Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?" The apostles were stunned, and confused, and did not understand when Jesus began to talk about going to Jerusalem where he will be put to death. See Acts 1:6 the apostles were gathered together and they asked of him, Jesus, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? They did not understand because Jesus kept this understanding HID from them Luke 18:34. Why would Jesus HIDE the MEANING of THESE THINGS WHICH WERE SPOKEN? Well, not only was the MEANING behind the crucifixion hidden from the apostles, it was hidden from the prophets ( although the death of the Messiah on a cross was prophesied, the MEANING behind it was hidden), from the angels, AND FROM SATAN. The mystery that God ordained before the world ( 2 Cor: 7 )which Jesus revealed to the Apostle Paul, the MYSTERY of God's offer of Salvation to the Whole World through his son's ATONING death for our sins, and the gospel of grace ( 1 Cor 15: 1-4) was kept hid for this reason: 1 Cor 2: 8... FOR IF THEY ( satan and the " princes of this world " ) HAD KNOWN IT, THEY WOULD NOT HAVE CRUCIFIED THE LORD OF GLORY.
Yes, they did know it. All 4 Gospels were written after the account of Acts 15. The 3 Gospels are synoptic Gospels giving the account of the earthly ministry of Jesus Christ, including eye witnesses to His death, burial and resurrection. However they are writing about the events of that time which of course came before the meeting in Acts 15 occurred, but Matthew, Mark and Luke all wrote them after the events of Acts 15 with Paul and the other apostles. The Gospel of Luke was the last one of the four to be written and is the evangelistic Gospel focused on the deity of Christ and the Gospel of grace, believing by faith in Christ. Also, justification by faith is a firm concept in the Bible, going all the way back to Genesis 15 in which it is written that Abraham believed God and it was counted to him as righteousness.
Expect more demons soon to pervert Christianity, and Calvinism is not the cause, but was used only as an excuse. The church is conglomerated with different contradicting doctrines of leaven as prophesied by the Lord Himself. Matt. 13:33. It cannot be denied that Calvinism is one of the roads tracing the continuity of the church. The problem is the spirit of condemnation among Calvinists, non Calvinists, and others as hell bound despite of their faith in Jesus Christ. One cannot put God in a small box of so-called absolute truth.
John 6:37 [37] “All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out.” What is the order, men coming to Christ and then given to Christ or the Father giving and then men coming?
In him means in him. The reason the words to be is not added is that God is showing that the believer was in Christ from eternity past. We were always there . Calvinists do not add “to be” since it says exactly what is true and what we believe that we were in him before the foundation of the earth. To be adds an element of time which is not correct but Armenians believe that they make a decision to be in Christ
Sorry, but you are mistaken and Ephesians 2 makes that perfectly clear. I'll quote it in a moment, but first I hope you realize that being "in Christ" is what born again people are. If that happened in eternity past then when exactly do you think they lost that status as sinners and had to get "in Christ" again? That makes no sense. Calvinism is debunked because it all hinges on the Total Depravity doctrine, the T in TULIP, and if the elect were already "in Christ" before they were born, then they were never in a state of Total Depravity, but Calvinism says everybody is in that state and only the elect come out of that state of spiritual deadness when they receive Irresistible Grace, the I in TULIP. All of the doctrines of Calvinism are wrong anyway. Here is Ephesians 2 that proves EVERYONE was "without Christ" before they come to faith in Christ and then become "in Christ." "11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; 12 That at that time *ye were without Christ* , being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: 13 *But now in Christ Jesus* ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
@@faithonfireministries Look at Jeremiah and you will see what in Christ means . Before you were born. You need to rightly divide the word of truth between fleshly things and spiritual things . In Christ mind we were saved before time in eternity past . Ie in the spirit . He knew all would fall and that he would save His elect as. Evidence I the flesh. He also said most would not believe .
You didn't answer me about Ephesians 2: 11-13. You only deflected to Jeremiah. But my video was about Ephesians 1 and you questioned when a person is "in Christ" from Ephesians 1 and said that occurs in eternity past. But Ephesians 2 says otherwise. Why don't you agree with Ephesians 2: 11-13?
@@faithonfireministries you do not believe in total depravity yet Ephesians 2 teaches total depravity ! Please read . Verses 2:11 and 12 as speaking speaking about the flesh and you are correct ,but what you are saying negates what we knownabout the spirit and mind of Christ. We were in the mind of Christ in eternity past , him knowing that he would save his elect from eternity past from their sins . You have to look at both flesh and spirit or you will come to a perverted truth . You
Okay, but I still believe Ephesians 1 speaks of *what* is predestined in eternity past to be granted to believers rather than *who* is predestined to become believers. If the latter is true, then the Gospel is certainly not good news to most people. That can't be true because of many Bible verses to the contrary, but how about this one example in Luke 2: 10 in which the angels announced to the Shepherds the birth of Jesus Christ, "And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people." It says "which shall be to all people." If Calvinism is true then Jesus being born was to "elect" people only. But it is true that Calvinists love to say that when the Bible says all or all men, all people, the world, or even whole world, every man, etc. God really didn't mean that, but only meant the elect.
I believe almost everything you said, except for once saved always saved, I disagre, the bible does not teach that, you see almost every teacher of the bible, if not careful, is prone to misinterpretation of certain scriptures in the bible, and like the calvinist, almost all bible teachers have their share of misinterpreting certain scriptures, some a lot, some not so much, I believe when certain people begin to aquire a little scriptural knowledge, they tend to fall into they know it all, adding their own human opinions into scripture to justify their interpretation of scripture, very dangerous, especially for those who hear it and run with it as biblical truth, so many Christians today are so spiritually ignorant ,gullible and prone for deception, my advice, pray and ask God for spiritual discernment and wisdom, study to show yourself approved, know God's word to avoid being led astray, allow the Holy Spirit to teach you in your pursuit in studying God's Word, MORIAL = God Teaches, or God is our Teacher.❤
I am grateful we agree with a lot. But the OSAS issue is actually much more important than a lot of people realize because it speaks to the very credibility of the words of Jesus Christ in Scripture. Please consider for a moment that you could be confusing salvation with sanctification. Many Christians and Pastors do. Some do it willfully because they are literally preaching a false works salvation model and they are false teachers that are trying to bring people under the Law of God rather than being under grace where true salvation is. Paul wrote it is either one or the other, but not both. Anyone trying to be saved by keeping the Law is actually not saved because the Law only serves to show us that we need grace and to trust in Christ alone and His work, not our own works, because we are all guilty under the Law. If we try to do work to fulfill the Law righteously, then we will fail. Only one ever did that perfectly which was Jesus Christ. John 1: 17, "For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ." Christians are called to be disciples and with the help of the Holy Spirit be sanctified, but there are many Bible passages that treat initial salvation and how we are kept eternally saved as being a totally separate matter from sanctification or as some would call it, spiritual maturity. It is undeniable that we are saved by Christ alone and kept saved by Christ alone. If His Word says that, which it does, especially in John 10, and He does not do it, then that would make Jesus a liar who does not fulfill His Word in us. Nope, He most certainly does tell us the truth and fulfills it without our help. Unfortunately, if a person does not believe in OSAS, then they must believe they get saved and then work to keep earning salvation which is taking the credit and glory away from the finished redemptive work of Christ and placing it back upon themselves, saved by their own good deeds. I'm all for doing good deeds, especially in the form of the work of ministry to help others know Jesus and be saved and to edify one another in the Body of Christ, but we have crossed a line into error if we think these works and self-discipline are actually what keeps us saved. That is adding to the Gospel of Christ. Romans 4: 5, "But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness." Paul wrote this another way as well in Galatians 2: 16, "Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified."
I believe you misunderstood what I said about osas. I do understand what salvation is, repentance and putting our faith in Christ and His finish work on the cross for our salvation, it's all by faith, there's absolutely nothing we can add to His work to improve our salvation, yes we do good works, but not to win points with God. Then begins the sanctifying work in our lives by the Holy Spirit, now because of our imperfections and weaknesses of our flesh, we will willfully or unintentionally sin, make mistakes, grow spiritually lukewarm or cold, and sometimes some will eventually fall away, but amazingly the Holy Spirit continues to convict us to draw us back to God to spiritually grow and mature, but it's also a fact that sadly some don't return, their heart's get hard and cold, they go back into the world and become worse than they were before, the bible talks about that, but some will say that they were never born again to begin with, I don't know about that, God only knows, the bible also says in the last days even the very elect could be deceived and possibly fall away, I believe some will, but how could they, they were securely saved, Jesus said it 2 or 3 time do not be deceived in those days, why would he say that?, but we already know many have already been deceived today and led astray, I'm talking about born again Christians, this is what I was referring to on osas, we might truly be born again, but, we can fall away and miss heaven, most will go back like a dog goes back to his vomit, it is possible for a Christian to fall away and go back into the world, in other words, yes they were saved, but they squandered their salvation away by going back to a sinful lifestyle, but weren't they securedly saved 🤔?. The one problem with osas, some Christians, especially young new born again Christians will take that as a license to sin, not all, but some, I asked a Christian friend once, if you're having sexual relations with a women and the rapture occurs, will you be ruptured, to my amazement he said yes, but wait a minute, doesn't the bible say that nothing can separate us from the (love) of God which is in Christ Jesus, and that Jesus will never abandon us, but wait a minute, the bible also says to the Christian church, for to be carnally minded is death, meaning living according to the flesh is death, it's referring to Christians, not unbelievers, Paul is speaking to the church. My point here brother, yes we are spiritually saved, but we can squander that blessing away if we go back into the world and live a sinful lifestyle again,but if we live by the Spirit, we will have life and peace, brother your osas teaching is flawed, but I'm pretty sure you're going to stick with it, and it will profit nothing on this endless debate going back and forth on this issue, what's more critically important is the salvation of soul's that need Jesus. ❤
It does not say individuals were chosen for salvation before the foundation of the world. You are adding that Calvinistic presupposition to the text. It is clear that Christians (those who are in Christ) were chosen to be holy and without blame before God. That is consistent with the rest of Scripture regarding salvation. Your Calvinistic view is not consistent with any Scripture.
I am a Christian, although you may call me a calvinist if you'd like. Happy to answer any questions i can so long as your intent is civil discussion. It doesnt seem many of the comments have a true grasp on what the augustine/calvin view is.
Great video Brian. Of all the erroneous teachings within Christendom: Oneness/Anti-trinitarians. Besides accepting Jesus you must keep the Sabbath & eat Kosher/SDA The Pope speaks Excathedra & Mary answers prayer. Speaking in tongues is THE evidence of one's salvation. Baptismal-Regeneration. They all still teach everyone CAN be saved. Only Calvinism teaches: All can't & won't be saved by God's decree. I always like 👍 your videos & recommend'm to others. I'm still with Michael Heiser & others, that we volitionally/freely choose Jesus & therefore CAN freely renounce Him/Divorce/no longer want Him (not loose our salvation from sinning or poor performance). Too many scriptures to ignore regarding walking away willfully, IMO. I don't see any passage that says you lock yourself in no matter how much you want out later. Nonetheless, you're using your talents with these videos ☝️
You can fall away from the faith but never lose your salvation. There is no gospel without OSAS. Anyone who thinks that they can lose their salvation is by default trusting in their works.
@@colonalklink14 Ya, I'm still with Heiser, Pawson & Prasch on this. I prefaced, you don't LOOSE it by sinning or poor performance, but by volitional renouncing. God hates divorce, yet we Christians divorce. Maybe the Lord will show me otherwise. I'm in my 60s, have been in ministry since the late 1980s. Sadly I've seen solid fruit bearing saints (decades of fruit) fall away willfully
@@RezG_777 The will of the Father is found in John 6:40. These people were bragging about their many wonderful works. Mathew 7:21-23 actually describes the fate of the faith plus works equals salvation crowd. They were called workers of iniquity because they were not clothed in the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus. They, much like yourself, believed that Jesus is necessary but not sufficient.
Thanks for calling out this blasphemous doctrine! Needs to be more like you. The 5 points of calvinism perversion gives a green light to any sin possible without any conviction.
I can sin all my life and just convert on my last days
@@bigtobacco1098 Calvinists would say, you are predestined to sin all your life but also elected to go to heaven at the end. I can do anything I want as long as I claim "mysterious decree"!
@@RezG_777 neither... you simply showed what you don't know about calvinism... nor did you answer your dilemma
what about Jesus
why do you need Calvin
@@bugume no preachers ?? Teachers ??
There is no way to candy coat it.
John Calvin was a murderer, burning Christians at the stake, as if he were God and had the power to judge men.
Nothing good can come out of a dishonorable vessel.
Trust me when I say that Calvinists will have an answer for Johnny's bad behavior (like that is just what they did back then). John Calvin was a tyrant who ruled with an iron fist (similar to Stalin). Utterly amazing that anyone would worship his writings. Similar to Mormons who follow perverted leaders (Joseph Smith with his 40 wives & Brigham Young with 56 wives), Calvinists follow a murderer and simply choose to ignore his unruly life.
@getrit3007,
I am not a Calvinist but the Calvinist is right that John 3:16 reveals that only those whosoever believes in Jesus Christ can be saved...
@getrit3007, Cornelius was saved after being baptized in the the name of the Lord Jesus.. See Acts 2:37-38
@getrit3007 , What point did I miss?
Are you under the impression that non-Calvinists didn't burn people at the stake?
Thank you for your ministry . I just woke from Calvinism. I have ten family members who are still in it. Please pray for my family for wisdom.
Yes indeed! I will pray for them to come out of it as you have. Praise the Lord!
Praise God!! Prayers for your family.
@@faithonfireministries my dear Brian Jesus Christ him self told us that this would happen
@@faithonfireministries this all started way back to the days idols were introduced on the earth. This Calvinism is the same as Satanism same as idolotry
You have the word of God and you have the fact that Jesus Christ never taught the word of God from the Bible they read Jesus Christ taught his deciples from the Septuagint.
The original word of God was written in Hebrew and in Greek
The fact is there are many Pastors and preachers who have the 9 gifts of the spirit and have done miracles in his name at these times so you have that truth as your foundation.
Jesus did not die for all is something unacceptable. It makes one feel sick. It contradicts the words. It gives those who claimed it feels superior to others.
John 10:26-29 [26] “but you do not believe because you are not among my sheep.” They cannot believe.
tricord, you don't interpret that passage correctly and you claim they cannot believe despite Jesus who commands people to "enter by the strait gate" which is the narrow way that leads to life (Through faith in Him) and He warns us that the Broad Way leads to destruction. Why would Jesus bother to tell us that? Why would Jesus command us to do anything that He already predestined us to do and we have no choice in the matter?
@@faithonfireministries Try to exegete the passage. Try dealing with John.
@@faithonfireministries Verse 4 literally & verse 5 says He ‘predestined us for adoption. states: Ephesians 1:4-5 [4] “even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love [5] he predestined us for adoption to himself as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will,” This harmonizes with John 10:16, that you missed.
Is every ALL in scripture inclusive ??
Thanks Brian I like your videos we are saved by believing in the gospel of christ and the gospel is the death ,burial,and Resurrection of Jesus.
100% with you, brother. Once saved always saved, Jesus came for everyone, not an elite few, and it was the blood of God shed for us on calvary - Acts 20v28-32
I was in the comment section of your Mark Driscoll video the other day and one of the Calvinist trolls was trying to say that John 3:16 doesn’t say that Jesus died for everyone and I showed him both the words and their context and I had to repeat that to him over and over again because he kept denying it and pulling up other arguments avoiding the evidence. Talking to these Calvinists is like talking to the wall.
They remind me of cathokics. Love their religion not the word.
@@Harbinger290 Bingo!!
@Harbinger290 they still are! Never reformed their way out of the catholic church yet.
@@rsscdf McArthur certainly teaches penance for salvation not repentance as the Bible teaches. He can’t even see his own confusion.
I've finally realized what Calvinism is about, its about defending Calvinism
not the Bible.
You have to follow their thought process to understand what they believe.
If you just read the Bible you never will.
It's like going down the rabbit hole, theology in a tube.
You can't argue with them, because they can't see out of their hole.
The Bible is a Narrative, God's Story, from Genesis all the way through to Revelation.
We have an invitation to be part of it.
Calvinism is a usurper that tries to impose it's own ideas on to the message, completely ignoring the story.
I don’t understand how Christians don’t see that the doctrine of limited atonement denies the very work of Christ.
And how they can say things like, “well I’m not a Calvinist, but I still listen to John MacArthur”. What?
This is no small thing. It’s wicked.
It’s like spitting on the cross.
Imagine saying to God who gave his Son, who he refers to in Ephesians chapter 1 verse 6 as his beloved, that he didn’t die for the sins of the world when he actually did.
Imagine the furious anger of God every time a person loses heart, and despairs because of this blasphemous and brutal doctrine.
Calvinist are told to look inwardly to judge whether they are truly saved , instead of to the cross. When I look inwardly it leads me to despair, but when I looked to the cross, it leads me to repentance and faith and hope.
Exactly
Amen! I agree. Well said! God bless you!
Because Satan has convinced them to believe this nonsense.
They are deceived like sheep being led to slaughter
Unless you are a universalist you believe in limited Atonement, either man or God does the limiting. In a man over God theology, it is man by his decree, in a God over man theology, it is Gods decree.
It's funny cuz I hear some Christians talk about John MacArthur in a good way or at least sort of a good way but certainly not a bad way and it confuses me, even someone that I respect as a preacher did that... Anyway I love that you break this all down for everyone to understand... I share this as much as I can because there's a lot of people, even the church I go to has a book that John MacArthur wrote on the desk for anyone to take if they want it... I wonder if they even know he's a calvinist....
Anyway thank you 🌹☺️ God bless you richly😊
hello faith on fire, how do you feel about doing a video exposing the deception of a calvinist pastor, who has taken a small but very historic Baptist church, and giving them a false history and trying to convince them to "return them to their calvnistic roots"?
I had my doubts about you, mostly because of your former angst, but now I see you are right in line with scripture, fully dressed in grace.
Very kind of you to share that. I'm glad you continued to watch giving me the benefit of the doubt. God bless you!
However, he is wrong abut Calvinism.
12:24 //// the unequal scales seem one of the best points I've heard as to why Calvinism is so very wrong!!
Yes, God hates unequal scales and He (above all) is not unjust and unfair!! God will not be (rightly) accused of having unequal scales!!
They would even change it more and say, For God so loved the “elect” lol
@johndavidwitt,
I am not a Calvinist but the Calvinist is right that John 3:16 reveals that only those whosoever believes in Jesus Christ can be saved...
@johndavidwhitt,
Those whosoever believe in Jesus Christ are the only ones that can be saved and they are the elect...
@@reynaldodavid2913Jo I agree, as Jesus tells us is the only way to the Father. But God does love the world.
@@johndavidwhitt , It is written, so who can deny it..
21:30 To add to your point about praying for God's will to be done on earth as it is in heaven...
Noticed in verse 11 that the word 'counsel' in the phrase "counsel of His will" is the Greek word 'boulen', which is the exact word used in Luke 7:30, where the Pharisees and lawyers rejected the "counsel of God". Calvinists are adamant that His counsel is undeniable and cannot be rejected by mere created man. And yet clearly on earth, man can choose to reject it...
Yep, great point. Thanks for sharing. God bless you!
Nice job
They will simply say he meant for them to reject it, so it's okay. Of course that raises other questions but...
Have you thought about what Jesus says to the Pharisees in John 10? He tells them that they are not among His sheep.
Great video.
I think Ephesians 1:4 is not properly understood if you read over "in him" without grasping the concept. Believers, those who are in Christ, are predestinated to be holy and without blame. This is only possible once you accept Christ as your Savior.
There are numerous passages that describe God's irreversible Grace to the believer upon believing in the Gospel, but I like to use Philippians 1:5-6. God began a good work in us (the moment we chose to believe and are eternally saved) and will perform it (the indwelling of the Holy Spirit) until we are glorified (the redemption of our body), hence we are "predestinated."
Amen! Great example from Philippians. God bless you!
Thank you for exposing yet another example of how Calvinists have "upgraded" the Bible by neutralizing yet another inconvenient verse.
Praises ever be for Theodor Beza and other "translators" who corrected the errors of the Textus Receptus so that the Geneva Bible could give True Calvinist Testimony! Praises ever be to Beza's gift of Latin which he turned to the Service of Calvinistic Truth. Praise also the successors of Beza who, even today, upgraded the Bible to conform to the True Holiness of Calvin's Institutes. Pay no heed to the foul slanderers who claim that Beza's other work of homoerotic love verses is Gay Pornography.
The definition of Adoption is in Romans 8:23
Amen Brother. The TULIP is the devils favorite flower. First John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only, but for the sins of the whole world. First Corinthians 1;21 For after that, by the wisdom of God, the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God, by the foolishness of preaching (First Corinthians 15:1-4) to save them that BELIEVE. God is no respecter of persons and will save anyone who accepts His free gift of eternal life. John 6:47. God cannot lie. John 5:24.
Amen ❤
@@lvreformissionary HOGWASH. First John 2:2. First Timothy 2:4, John 3:16 John 6:40. John 12:32. Acts 16:31. First Corinthians 1:21. John 3:18. Romans 6:23. For the wage of sin is death, physical death, but the GIFT of God is eternal life, through Jesus Christ our Lord. Not faith, and not a reward for good behavior, but a free gift. First John 5:13. These things have I written unto you that BELIEVE on the name of the Son of God, that ye may KNOW YE HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. Second Peter 3:9. It is Gods will that everyone believe the truth of the gospel and be saved. First Corinthians 15:1-4. But God in His sovereignty gave man a free will to choose whether to believe it or not.
John 3:16-18. God is not respecter of persons. He will save anyone who accepts His free gift of eternal life. Paid in full by His one blood sacrifice for the sins of the whole world. But, John 3:18. Romans 1:16. For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, First Corinthians 15:1-4, for it is the POWER of God unto salvation to everyone that BELIEVETH, to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
Galatians 1:6-9 Though we or an angel from heaven preach any other gospel unto you than that we have preached unto you, LET THEM BE ACCURSED. As we said before, so say I again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received from us, LET HIM BE ACCURSED. ANATHAMA.
@@lvreformissionary Romans 2:11. KJV. Romans 3:23. Romans 3:9-10. First John 1:8.
First John 5:13. These things have I written unto you that BELIEVE on the name of the Son of God, that ye may KNOW YE HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. Present tense. John 5:24. John 6:47. First John 2:2. Romans 1:16.
@@lvreformissionary John 3:16. God offers the free gift to everyone. Calvinism says he only died for some people. First John 2:2. Romans 1:16. And we do not persevere in the faith to stay saved. Second Timothy 2:13. And we do not get the seal of the Holy Spirit until after we believe the gospel, not before. Ephesians 1:13-14. Ephesians 4:30.
The gift of God is eternal life. Not faith or a reward for good behavior. First John 5:13.
Calvinist are trusting in their own works. Not Jesus finished work on the cross plus nothing. Romans 11:6. The verse Calvinist hate. Romans 4:5. But to him that worketh not, but BELIEVETH on Him who JUSTIFIETH the UNGODLY, his faith is counted for His perfect RIGHTEOUSNESS. Romans 4:6. Romans 8:9. Without the Spirit there is no salvation. With the Spirit we have eternal life. Ephesians 1:13-14. Hebrews 13:5. For He Hath said, I will never leave you or forsake you.
I have never heard a Calvinist say they are not one of the chosen. Because they are trusting in their works. Matthew 7:21-23. Those that are trusting in their own works are told, depart from me ye that work iniquity, I never knew you. Not I did know you and now I don't, I never KNEW YOU. Your trusted in what you did, not what I did for you. John 6:40, and John 6:29.
Calvinist seem to work very hard to protect their doctrine from the scriptures. Yet, their own champion Charles Spurgeon didn’t do that. He just preached the text.
@618soc, So Charles Spurgeon is the real Calvinist?
Another great video. I'm working on one as well that I will soon put out about this awful cancer in the church. Thank you for your firm stand for the truth.
Thanks pastor! I'll be looking forward to watching that video when you release it. God bless you!
Well done!!! this man made doctrine is clever, yet we can pray that those we love/ care about will be drug out of this convoluted mess.. which even has to add secondary means or prescriptive will verses ugh anyway hopefully they sense a nudge from the Holy Spirit who is here convicting the world of sin and of righteousness absolutley if we are not in Him alone then -ugh😢 I don't think everyone who claims so be a calvinist understands the systematic, but I know it hurts many people who are unaware imo🌻
John 16:8 NKJV - “And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
REVERSE READING
They reverse the order of Gods revelation
They don't say God so loved the elect that He gave His only Son (John 3:16)
That is what they mean because God saves only the elect
Whether they say it or not their theology must mean that is what they believe
Therefore they justify what they say
The elect are the ones who have become the chosen when they receive Him
When you are in Christ
He is Chosen
We only become the elect when we receive what God gives
Then we will have been chosen because we are in Christ
Not to get into Him
To as many as received Him to them He gave Power to become Sons of God. John 1:12
The way Calvinism puts it reverses the order
The reason the Bible puts it that way is because that's the way it is
Anything else is presupposition
@John-Christchu,
You are the one who reverse the scriptures, You said that you become the elect after you received Christ.. Where did you get that belief? Ah, that was taught to you by either Leighton or Kevin Thompson. They are both wrong, don't be deceived. John 3:16 reveals Limited Atonement.. Only those whosoever believes in Christ are the only ones who can be saved and they are the elect.. The rest are the reprobates that cannot be saved because they are the children of the devil..
Exmple of the children of the devil can be found in John 8:44
@@reynaldodavid2913Jo
Must be a different world
John 3:16 reveals no such thing
Calvinism reads itself into scriptures totally ignoring the context written
and then claims to be right
I've been reading the Bible and following Jesus
for over 40 years
I've heard and at times believed many things that proved to be not true
I should have listened to and trusted the Holy Spirit because the scripture
turned out to be just as it is written
...I do hope your not accusing me of being a murderer
No idea of context
@@John-Christchurch-NZ , God bless you brother...
5:50 "WORKS'?.....Ironically, as a true Calvinist, even John MacArthur doesn't know for sure if he has the necessary "Gift of Perseverance" as required by his doctrine of TULIP. Nobody can ever know if the have 'it' or will get 'it' while they are still fogging a mirror. Calvinism affords no such assurance. They claim all people are born hating God and none can, or would, profess Christ apart from God's effectual, forceful, deliberate action upon them causing them to make that claim. And this is only done to a lucky few who were 'elected' to be saved before the world was born. And, according to their doctrine of 'Total Depravity', NO 'unregenerate' would, or ever could, profess Christ, they simply can't.
However, that is a double-edged sword. Because the same is also true for anyone who later abandons their profession of faith in Christ, as some do. Any demonstration of apostasy is merely another manifestation of God's decree. That's the fly in Calvin's ointment.
John Calvin called it 'Evanescent Grace'. A fake temporary faith which God gives to some, causing them to believe and live convincingly "as-if" they're saved. But, only for a time... sometimes a long time... sometimes a lifetime... but God later withdraws that 'faith' and they go to Hell and eternal damnation because he never loved them anyway. Their entire Christian experience was just an illusion for God's own pleasure. He created them as vessels of wrath for destruction, from the foundation of the world and they never even knew it.
If it is true, and God does that to some... no one ever knows if he's doing it to them. A Calvinist cannot even trust in their own profession of faith. Neither can they point to any Christian activities or desires as 'evidence' of salvation because none of these are choices of their 'own' but merely a manifestation of God's eternal predestined decree for them today which may not last until tomorrow.
We'll just have to wait and see if their faith is the real stuff. But they'll never know for sure until they're dead. And we who are left behind are just left to wonder if they 'made it' or not.
End result: They are worshiping a God who cannot be trusted to love any one... for certain.
It's a lie... but that's Calvinism folks. It's just never spoken of much out loud because it's too UGLY to think about. And, since even man's choice to believe and accept Christ is supposedly 'all God', you're either picked to be "In" or you're "out". And there's nothing that can be done about it anyway. God's the great Seinfeld 'Soup Nazi' in the sky..... "NO GRACE FOR YOU!"
Whether they realize it yet or not, all Calvinists are just whistling past the graveyard and hoping for the best.
@R.L.KRANESCH,
WoW! You indeed trampled the Calvinist.. How about you? Are you sure that you are saved?
@@reynaldodavid2913Jo Reynaldo, as you must remember, we've "tangoed" before. Few things were as unproductive IMO. However, to answer your question;
First, I did not 'trample the Calvinist'. My contention is always with Calvinism. Not those who have fallen prey and have become convinced by its web of deception. My statements may be 'direct' and perhaps even seem combative, but they are firmly grounded in the unavoidable consequences of Calvinist doctrine.
It's interesting and predictable, almost boring, that whenever most Calvinists are confronted with their own doctrine stated in plain language, absent their preferred euphemisms, they recoil and try to explain and defend what cannot be explained or defended. In the end the conversation ends one of two ways, or both.
1. You just don't understand Calvinism.
2. Who are you to question God?
LOL. They can never seem to accept that any one rejects Calvinism because they DO understand it. And... they cannot grasp that it is not God, but Calvinism being questioned.
Second, as regarding my own salvation: I believe the God of the Bible can be trusted to save whosoever will believe, just as he promised. I have believed for over 60yrs and I have no doubt he will honor his promise and his word. In a sentence, Yes, I am sure I am saved.
As I said, an honest Calvinist who understands their doctrine can never say that about anyone, even the man in the mirror.
If OSAS is not true then youre constantly looking to yourself to make sure youre maintaining salvation - it becomes about your good works. The only way around that is to believe once youre born again you are forever born again. Im happy to see you believe that as well
Osas is the reason why there are 700 victims over 20 years with 400 baptist leaders abusing children, this is very sick and disgusting as these heretics who believe that no sin can keep them out of heaven prey upon the innocent children in their congregations, some churches rallying around their pastor accused the child of being a little temptress, trashing one or more of their own families, this is the disgusting wicked fruit of osas, Jesus Himself said what would be better than to offend one of these little ones that believe in Him, oh wait osas fixes that too, right....
The wicked fruit of osas is out there for all to see and these incredulous people will defend these sick twisted perverts!!! And still claim that osas is all that and a bazillion bags of Doritos.
Amen, that is what everlasting means, that it lasts for ever.
Being chosen in Christ before creation would have to mean that the elect get out of Christ when they are born and are no longer chosen/elect at that point. They are as dead as corpses and need to be made alive/regenerated so that they can believe and be made alive. There are so many more contradictions in Calvinism. 🤦
Yes. Why can't they give all the glory to Jesus Christ. He said no one comes to the Father but by Himself doing the revealing.
God gave Adam and Eve a choice
100% CORRECT. Yet a Calvinist will give you a 36-minute dissertation on Adam and Eve not having a choice and then suggest 14 books you should read in order to understand it better.
Praise God for you and your ministry! A much needed teaching in the Church today!
Calvinists love to frontload and backload the gospel. Some Calvinist theologians have an Elitist attitude because they believe Jesus only died for them. They forget the scripture 1John 2:2. They believe that God is Soverign where He forces you to believe or resist Him, which is heresy. Jesus died for all, and everyone has the opportunity to believe in Him. John Calvin used his own soveignty to murder whoever didn't believe his theology.
Yep, well said. God bless you!
Is it elitist to believe God had to intervene in order for you to be saved because of the destructive depth of your sin or is it elitist to believe you are so wise that you can use your fallen willpower to turn to God and receive the Gospel?
@@tyronedawson8553 It is Elitist to think God only died for you when He died for the whole world. 1 John 2:2. Jesus already did all the work. There is no work that I do to be saved.
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Propitiation properly signifies the removal of wrath by the offering of a gift.
Is it your view that Jesus removed Gods wrath from the world (believers and unbelievers), or that Jesus propriation is only applied to believers.
It's obvious that in the first case, your interpretation is one step away from universalism. If Jesus died for the world, why isn't the world saved. However, if we understand the world to be a reference to the types of people Jesus would save (jew and gentile), we have a different scenario. What is your understanding?
@tyronedawson8553 No, it is not universalism. Jesus died for all the sins of the whole world. However, it doesn't mean that everyone will receive by faith. If I bake cookies for all the children in the classroom as a gift to the class, it doesn't mean all the children will take a cookie. According to Calvinism, I would only bake cookies for a select few.
Do you happen to have a John 6:44 video? Thank you, I appreciate your heart for Jesus Christ and exposing calvinism's perversion of the Gospel message.
Thank you for exposing this hideous belief.
Have a look at Luke 7:30. Calvinism destroyed in a single verse. I seem to be the only person that has noticed this
Great point! Thanks. I'll be keeping that reference handy. Well done. God bless you!
Acts 7:51 does also.
Romans 9:10-13
King James Version
10 And not only this; but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, even by our father Isaac;
11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;)
12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.
13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
-By your definition this is God using unjust scales.-14:26
14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.
15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.
18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?
20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,
John 6:35-44
35 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.
36 But I said unto you, That ye also have seen me, and believe not.
37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
41 The Jews then murmured at him, because he said, I am the bread which came down from heaven.
42 And they said, Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? how is it then that he saith, I came down from heaven?
43 Jesus therefore answered and said unto them, Murmur not among yourselves.
44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
Amen Thank you lord Jesus
My true Brother i believe as you do ...exactly. all your words of thruth bears witness with the BORN AGIN SPIRIT IN ME
Predestination is merely
Two roads ( paths) .
One to salvation
The other to destruction.
If you take this road or that road GOD has told us where each will end for us .
We choose which road , our free will .
Yep, you are spot on! Why would Jesus even tell us that in Matthew 7 if the path we are on was predetermined by God anyway? Just for fun facts? LOL. Not at all, Jesus actually commands us, "enter at the strait gate..." which is the narrow path to life. He even warns us of the end result of the broad way which is destruction. Yes, you are right. We choose.
The way you explained the faith vs works dichotomy was very helpful and edifying. Thank you and God bless 🙏
Soooooo if everything in our life is predestined do they believe God made us predestined to sin.. just to go through all this then made just a few of us to come back to him then some just to burn in hell for eternity. do they think this just dont sound right why would God judge people that he made just to burn in hell anyways? thats saying at judgement God is gonna look at someone say hey i made you so that youd never believe in me but now im gonna judge you for that an send you to hell.....
Yes, it is a quite a blasphemous charge against God but Calvinists teach that even though God made many with no ability to believe the Gospel and therefore not chosen for salvation and are predestined to hell, that God is still righteously judging them to hell because the fact remains they sinned. They call this accountability for sin though not elected by God for having any ability to be saved "compatibilism" and it is utter inconsistent nonsense.
I just read the verse this morning and it brought a whole new revelation for me.
”Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: but every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.“
James 1:13-15
Lusts are our fleshly/carnal desires. I like one of the commentaries in my Bible,
“…to be drawn away and enticed like a fish is baited to bite a hook and is then pulled from the water to its death.”
His never tempts us to sin. Just like he warned Cain that sin was crouching at the door. But He can turn everything that was meant for evil, for the good.
@@Nicole_y1 that's the messed up thing if they gone say everything is predestined by God that makes no need for Satan why would we have be tempted by him if it was predestined to happen anyways when they take freewill out of the bible it makes God out to be the devil also.
Our God is a God of love and I find it very hard to believe that He would make many people with no chance or hope of salvation to just be sent to Hell to perish. Yes we are sinners and the wages of sin are death, but Christ on the cross had paid the price for our sin. Jesus died for every single person who will ever live, but not everyone has chosen or will chose Him.
Calvinism sounds like a cruel caste system saying that some are elected to heaven and some are elected to hell. This sounds like a doctrine straight out of the pits of hell .
God ordained that those who believe on Jesus are predestined to eternal like. Note believe on Jesus!
Predestination is killing.
Why would you put the tilip .....how about the rose HE JESUS IS THE ROSE OF SHARON ....WHY NT THE LILY HE JESUS THE LILY OF THE VALLEY ..HE IS MY SAVIOUR ....IM IN LOVE WITH JESUS
Conditional once saved always saved is true. Unconditional once saved always saved is wrong. Its because the important doctrines about sinnature and sanctification also is needed to be teached, preached and understood correctly. To remain in our salvation it is needed to have victory over sin.
Where does Scripture teach to remain in our salvation we must have victory over sin? It doesn't say that anywhere. ...except maybe in the same man made doctrine the Calvinist live by. But it isn't Scriptural. And if it's not in the Bible, it can't be sound Biblical doctrine.
@@bugsocsollie1694 Paul didn't warn us to persist in the faith in vain - or do you believe there are vain verses in the Bible?
2 Timothy chapter 4 verses 6-8 and 1 Peter chapter 1 verses 3-12 . And many other verses in The Bible.
@@bugsocsollie1694 Philipians chapter 2 verses 12-18.
@dankmartin6510 No, it wasn't in vain. He wanted to present all saints as if perfect, but it wasn't a salvation issue. It was a rewards Issue at the judgment seat of Christ.
Thank you for ministry and your explanation of the false beliefs of the TULIP. I have learned from you and other excellent pastors and teachers like you. May I recommend just a few. Not By Works Dr. J B Hixson, Northland Bible Baptist Church Pastor Thomas M Cucuzza. Landmark Baptist College Philippines with Dr Phil Stringer. Dr Stringer has a 14 video series on The Dangers Of Calvinism that is just excellent
You are an excellent source of information and I greatly appreciate your knowledge on this subject....
If you are foolish enough to follow Calvinism, then you are loosing your salvation, and have no one to blame but yourself. Martin Luther is not far behind.
That's not true. There are many well meaning Calvinists who are born again and just have grown up in it and can't see the Bible any other way. Yes there are many who are prideful and arrogant - even John Piper admitted those types of personalities are drawn to Calvinism, but not everyone is like that.
@@wretchedsinnerRighteousSavior Do all Calvinists support the "Once saved, always saved" doctrine ?
I appreciate your work and content brother 🙏🏼 I went to a G3 conference and it was a major wake up through the Holy Spirit. It was shocking the things I experienced and heard.
Praise the Lord for you getting through that sort of indoctrination efforts and for the Holy Spirit leading you into truth. G3 is all about defending and promoting Calvinism. No thanks!
Great job brother! Keep up the good work!
AMEN, Brian!! Fantastic outlining and comparison of God's word and the perverted version that the calvinists have fallen for. 🏆
SALVATION IS BY GRACE THROUGH and not by deeds and works... rewards come after one has believed... that 5 point flower-system of those pride-filled works-trusters sucks and leads people who choose to believe the calvinistic garbage straight to hell.
Deuteronomy 4:36 Out of heaven he made thee to hear his voice, that he might instruct thee: and upon earth he shewed thee his great fire; and thou heardest his words out of the midst of the fire.
37 And because he loved thy fathers, therefore heCHOSE their seed after them, and brought thee out in his sight with his mighty power out of Egypt;
If John 3:16 is for everyone why does Ephesians 5:25 say Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it. Is the world the church is the church the world? The word So is an adverb it shows and tells how he loved. It modify the word love. It does not say he loved so much it says he so loved in this fashioned. He died for many the scripture also says so what are you trying to say? Whosoever is not in the Greek text at all. I’m not a Calvinist at alllllll and don’t agree with all Calvin says. But predestination was here and taught before Calvin was born.
Truth, Good message! Amen!
Thank God for this channel.
thank you for this. can you please help me to understand how calvinist thinks their saved? you can't get born again without believing on Christ. Calvinist is mind boggling!
Some Calvinists were first believers in the true Gospel and got saved before getting indoctrinated by the false teachers of Calvinism. That is why Calvinism is a Satanic infiltration into Christianity. It is a cult like perversion of true Christianity designed by Satan to pervert God's Word in such a way to lead many astray, including many who were born again. I don't believe they lose salvation because they got deceived and confused about what is the true Gospel they first believed. However, I am well aware that there are many Christians that don't agree with me on that point and think all Calvinists are unsaved.
Some of the responses I get from Calvinists regarding these verses are that you can't even believe if you are not one of the "elect", and that Paul's conversion proves that unconditional election is true. Also, that regeneration doesn't proceed faith, but that it happens simultaneously. That's how its been explained to me. I AM NOT a Calvinist, btw. Reject it completely, but this is what they tell me. They also always quote to me Romans 3:10-18 for Total Depravity and just laugh at me whenever I mention context. I dont know how to respond to these people anymore
The phrase God must show his wrath for glory, it's not making him sound righteous for judgement on wicked people but a bully who picks on the weak kid so everyone will look at him like he's a tough guy. If God is slow to wrath and ultimately what's mercy for ppl his first objective is to show love to people. But we as humans don't always expect that love/correction and that's when he will use other methods and if you've totally gone down the road of evil he will wipe u off the map so your evil doesn't spread. We serve the God who's love supersede any idea of love. He loves people who at every turn avoid him but yet his son came for all of before you ever stopped sinning and gave your life to him
Stopping sin and giving your life to Christ have absolutely nothing to do with salvation at all.
Absolutely nobody has ever been saved by giving their life to Christ.
You don't receive a gift by giving anything for it.
That is bartering your life for salvation and is a Satanic counterfeit gospel message.
We are saved because He gave His life for us and we trust Him alone for salvation.
*This means that saving repentance is realizing that you are a sinner deserving of God's just punishment in Hell and turn (repent) from whatever you trusted in before, if indeed you trusted in anything; to trusting in the person and finished work of Christ alone for salvation.*
The first perversion of Calvinism from John 3:16 is the word "LOVE". They would interpret the verse as "For God so loved [the Elect] that [as the Elect is drawn to Him] [The Elect] should not perish, but have eternal life [as long as they keep the Lordship of Christ]".
i thought predestination is in the bible, but so is free will ie: i loved Jacob but hated Esau.. why not preach all scripture regardless of if "it sounds" Calvinistic or free willish.. do "labels" matter all that much?
I do preach/teach it all. I have a video on Ephesians 1 about predestination that proves it is nothing like Calvinists teach it. I also have a video on Romans 9 and when you add context and actually read the words on the page, suddenly Calvinism looks like a ridiculous attempt to repackage God's Word in an egregiously false systematic way.
@@faithonfireministries I feel at times it can b a tricky maze to navigate through. I started off free will but later pivoted towards Calvinism but now am somewhere in between. I sometimes watch debates on the subject & still find it a bit puzzling. blessings 🙏
God's grace saves those that abide in Him as true disciples until the end. John 3, 14, John 15, 1John1, James 5:20, Rev 2 & 3, James 5:21, Matt 10, hypocrites are spoken of in Matthew 7, John 15, Matt 3:10. God seeks those that love Him as much as He loves us, unto death, there's no greater love
The problem I have with “once saved always saved” is that a well known minister was asked if a homosexual comes to know the Lord and give his heart to the Lord. The minister was asked. If this person continue to practice homosexuality after he got saved, will he go to heaven? The minister answer was “absolutely yes.” What’s your take on that answer. Thanks
If that person were to ask if a liar had been given the gospel and they believed it then afterwards tell a lie are they still saved?
How about about someone that’s constantly worrying and then they believe the gospel yet afterwards they go back to living a life of worrying. Jesus commands us not to worry and any commandment that he gives and it’s not followed is a sin. Are they still saved?
Or how about a person who has anger issues and they believe the gospel yet go back to road raging and being angry with their spouse and kids. Are they still saved?
I’m sure glad that ALL of my sins were forgiven the moment I believed in Jesus Christ for the remission of them.
You should rejoice that once you’re saved you don’t have to work to stay saved because of you did then you wouldn’t be saved because you fall into sin like the rest of us do.
Not a preferred outcome but yes the person is saved if they have believed on Jesus. There are consequences, however, in this life and the next, but loss of eternal salvation is not one of them!
Excellent video Brain as usual!Thanks!
Fantastic presentation!!
Thanks very much for the encouraging word. God bless you!
This is baffling to me John 3:16 even implies free will. I think everybody is stuck on the word whosoever instead of the complete phrase whosoever believeth in him. And we all know the dead men can't do anything. That they are dead in trespasses and sins they're born after Adam.. they are dead blind and can't do anything. Unless God draws us to himself makes us alive while we were dead gives us ears to hear and eyes to see we can never believe the gospel. The Bible says faith is a gift and Christ is the author and finisher of it. We take zero credit for salvation and have no confidence in the flesh. Jesus said I lay down my life for the sheep. He also said to the Pharisees you do not believe because you are not my sheep. My sheep hear my voice and I know them and they follow me and the voice of a stranger they will not recognize.. obviously speaking of the hearing of faith. I could go on and on but salvation is of the Lord it is not an opportunity provided for a bunch of people who are all the same. There are wheat and tares sheep and goats the Kingdom of light a kingdom of darkness.. there are those four known of God and there are those who are of their father the devil. The scripture is quite clear in so many ways
Calvinism doesnt even make it out of Genesis: God commanded Adam and Eve to not eat the Apple, then Satan arrived and tempted Eve - if you go with the Calvinist world-view then either God has secret commands that arent in the Bible or Satan's temptations are more powerful than God's commands. The simplest, most logical, and most Biblical reading is that Adam and Eve choose disobedience, and by logical extension people today to the same exact thing even though they have the added benefit of the Holy Spirit convicted them of their sin.
Are the words "adoption as sons" in Ephesians 1:5 referring to justification or glorification?
Ephesians 1:5 NKJV
[5] having predestined us to adoption as sons by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will,
I appreciate your channel. Just found it. Not sure yet about everything. But I listened to Macarthur way back. 25 years ago on Christian radio. I was blessed by his sermons. But was always concerned about his views and hard stance on predestination. Now more than ever, we need people who are willing to challenge doctrines that deviate from the Bible. What do you think about the Bible changes that are taking place?
Go KJV and original codex only.
Please put Jn. 3:16 in context for it certainly has a context in Jesus' theological discussion with Nicodemus.
If you need to appeal to mystery when asked how is God not the author of evil, maybe you should reconsider your systematic theology.
Well done!!
Thank you 🙏
Calvinism, when quoting Romans 8:30..."and those whom he predestined he also called"...YOU need to go back to verse 29, "For those whom he FOREKNEW he also predestined to be conformed..." In other words, God called us because he already knew we would believe so he predestined us to be the image of his Son and do good works. Verse 29 seems to be left out when quoting Romans 8:30 regarding Calvinist's? God Bless
What does Justin Peters think the difference is between "authoring" sin and "decreeing" sin?
I totally agree, I started my walk with the Lord in a Southern Baptist church, but when doing my own bible study I found scriptures that did not agree with once saved always saved, and started asking questions, after a few times, I was told I was being bad or naughty and just to believe it because they said so.
ENH wrong answer,
Act 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.
1Th 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
2Ti 2:16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
also
(Deu 4:2, Deu 12:32, Deu 17:11, Deu 28:14, Jos 1:7 2Ch 34:2, Ezr 6:11, Psa 56:5, Psa 89:39, Psa 119:126, Pro 4:27, Pro 30:6, Jer 23:36, Jer 26:2, Eze 5:6, Mat 5:18, Mat 15:1-9, Mar 7:1-13, Rom 1:25, 2Co 2:17, 2Co 4:2, 2Pe 1:20-21, 2Pe 3:16, Rev 22:18-19)
Also see,
(Exo 25:9,40, Exo 26:30, Num 8:4, 1Chr 28:11-12, Heb 8:5)
God does not like his word to be added to or taken away from by anyone, and church or any denomination period. but from what I have experienced, various denominations all lay claim to "rightly dividing" God's word and go off into la-la land with their "interpretations" based on "rightly dividing" God did not give us rightly dividing so that we could use it to add to or take away from His word and call it good.
By the way look up The Houston Chronicle and San Antonio Sun joint report on "Abuse of faith" this cornicles 20 years of court documents of cases of predatory abuse within the Baptist (SBC) 700 victims over 20 years by 400 pastors, deacons, youth pastors, and church run school principles/teachers, for even further study there is a very good resource "the big book of bad Baptist preachers" which chronicles 100 cases of abuse with names, dates, and sentencing.
A denomination is defined as existing within a specific country.
There are 33,000+ total of these "Christian denominations" in 238 total countries.
These 33,000 are subdivided into "6 major ecclesiastical-cultural mega-blocs", and ordering them by denomination size we have (I am rounding up or down slightly for convenience, using the year 2000 figures) :
Independents (about 22000)
Protestants (about 9000)
"Marginals" (about 1600)
Orthodox (781)
Roman Catholics (242)
Anglicans (168)
So the 33,000 number is from the total of these 6 mega-blocs:
22000 + 9000 + 1600 + 781 + 242 + 168 = 33,000+
so which one is the church that Jesus started?
Mat 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
Jesus started His church and it has never been prevailed against, and has come down to us just as pure as it was when Jesus started it, to claim that a denomination or church is just restoring what Jesus started are liars, if you have to restore it, then it fell, and needed restoration, which Jesus said even the gates of hell would not prevail against His church.
Again which one of the above 33,000 is the one Jesus started? none of the above, His church is still here having come down to us as is from the time He started it, all others have come after and are man made.
So you do not believe eternal security is biblical?
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It is something that man has taught that the Bible says, and not really what the bible says.
1Co 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
1Co 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
1Co 6:11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Gal 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Gal 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Mar 3:28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:
Mar 3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:
Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Rev 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
Rev 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
These are very specific things that God says if you do them you will not inherit the kingdom of God, 400 Southern Baptist pastors and others in leaderships positions, you know those who also preach and teach osas, molested 700 victims one of which was only 3 years old, and many of them were boys.
osas made that possible, when you tell people that no sin no matter what it is nor how much of it you do can keep you out of Heaven after you have made a profession of Christ, you open the door to all of those sins and more.
Charles Stanley was answering a letter from a woman about her son who had been saved but then said that God was ok with his new lifestyle, asked if her son would go to Heaven when he died having given himself to that lifestyle.
Dr. Stanley affirmed that if he had been saved, that yes even though he now denied the truth of God's word and was practicing that lifestyle, if he died he would go to Heaven, of course Dr. Stanley said he would lose his rewards.
So let me get this straight, all the sins that I committed before I got saved would keep me out of Heaven, but after I got saved, if i do those very same sins, I still have Heaven in the bag according to baptist theology, ya no thanks, I do not want any part of a religion that claims that the same sins that would bar you from Heaven before salvation will not keep you out of Heaven after salvation.
Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
Heb 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
Heb 10:28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
Heb 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
Heb 10:30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
Heb 10:31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
@@kimwestwood8840 Do you believe you are already saved? Then why hold fast, stand firm, run the race, fight the fight, don't fall away, don't stumble, work out, continue, etc? Because salvation is not an event in your past, it is a journey you are on and a relationship to be fostered. The Bible describes salvation in 3 tenses: you are saved, you are being saved, and you will be saved. In that regard, none of us are more than 50% saved: we've completed step 1 and are half-way through step 2. You need to continue in belief and not fall from grace through unbelief... which is exactly what the Bible says.
Mar 3:28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:
Mar 3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:
Mar 3:30 Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit.
1Co 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
1Co 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Gal 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Gal 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Rev 3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Rev 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
Rev 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
The word of God is clear, people that do these things listed will not inherit the kingdom of God period, you do not get to change it, or interpret it away or explain it away.
A Baptist preacher with a well known ministry told a woman who wrote him about her son, that if he had been saved he would still go to Heaven even thought he was living in horrible sin.
The SBC is in terrible shape, 400 of their ministers/leaders went through the court system and were sentenced for what they did to children. the repor was called "Abuse of Faith"
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They do not like this about Judas.
Mat 10:1 And when he had called unto him his twelve disciples, he gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease.
Mat 10:2 Now the names of the twelve apostles are these; The first, Simon, who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother; James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother;
Mat 10:3 Philip, and Bartholomew; Thomas, and Matthew the publican; James the son of Alphaeus, and Lebbaeus, whose surname was Thaddaeus;
Mat 10:4 Simon the Canaanite, and Judas Iscariot, who also betrayed him.
Mat 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
Mat 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Mat 10:7 And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.
Mat 10:8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.
Mat 10:9 Provide neither gold, nor silver, nor brass in your purses,
Mat 10:10 Nor scrip for your journey, neither two coats, neither shoes, nor yet staves: for the workman is worthy of his meat.
Mat 10:11 And into whatsoever city or town ye shall enter, enquire who in it is worthy; and there abide till ye go thence.
Mat 10:12 And when ye come into an house, salute it.
Mat 10:13 And if the house be worthy, let your peace come upon it: but if it be not worthy, let your peace return to you.
Mat 10:14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.
Mat 10:15 Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.
Judas was given the same power of the Holy Ghost to heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead AND cast out devils, satan and the Holy Ghost cannot abide in the same temple at the same time, Judas went out with the other 11 sent out as 12 with the power of the Holy Ghost.
Mat 12:24 But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils.
Mat 12:25 And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:
Mat 12:26 And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?
Joh 13:1 Now before the feast of the passover, when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own which were in the world, he loved them unto the end.
Joh 13:2 And supper being ended, the devil having now put into the heart of Judas Iscariot, Simon's son, to betray him;
Joh 13:24 Simon Peter therefore beckoned to him, that he should ask who it should be of whom he spake.
Joh 13:25 He then lying on Jesus' breast saith unto him, Lord, who is it?
Joh 13:26 Jesus answered, He it is, to whom I shall give a sop, when I have dipped it. And when he had dipped the sop, he gave it to Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon.
Joh 13:27 And after the sop Satan entered into him. Then said Jesus unto him, That thou doest, do quickly
Act 1:15 And in those days Peter stood up in the midst of the disciples, and said, (the number of names together were about an hundred and twenty,)
Act 1:16 Men and brethren, this scripture must needs have been fulfilled, which the Holy Ghost by the mouth of David spake before concerning Judas, which was guide to them that took Jesus.
Act 1:17 For he was numbered with us, and had obtained part of this ministry.
Act 1:18 Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out.
Act 1:25 That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place.
It was not until the very end of Jesus' earthly ministry that satan entered into Judas and not before or Judas would not have been able to go with the other 11 as Jesus had sent the 12.
The key verse is Acts 1:25 Judas by way of transgression FELL, you cant fall away if you do not have anything to fall from, in the beginning, Judas was clean and why the Holy Ghost could empower him to heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead and cast out devils.
it was not until the last supper that satan put it into Judas heart to betray Jesus, and then only after the sop given by Jesus to Judas at the last supper, when satan entered into Judas.
There are so many scriptures against osas its not funny, what is even more funny, (funny strange) is how they will back peddle and dance around various scriptures that pose major problems for their doctrine, I have come to hate how denominations will do whatever bible flipflops back peddling, interpretations, explanations, and the like to save their doctrines from the scriptures rather than to simply acknowledge that their doctrine is wrong.
I left the Baptist denomination because of osas, it was my deal breaker, and where I am now i have problems with what is practiced vs what thus saith the word of God.
Preach it brother!!!
Question. Was Billy Graham Calvinist ? I’ve trying to find information about him.
Yes. He preached one must repent of their sins first to be saved. He also was the father of ecumenism for the Vatican and World Council of Churches (I think that one) and he convinced and took 3000 evangelical pastors to Rome to sign agreements that Roman Catholicism is biblical Christianity. He believed all men of good will, no matter what god they worshiped, will be saved by Jesus. At his public meeting altar calls, he connected people to the church denomination they said they were raised in or last attended. If a Jew said they were just saved, they were taken to a waiting Rabbi, if they were Roman Catholic, they were taken to a waiting priest. He was contracted by local churches ( they paid the money for him to preach his meetings), he wasn't an independent preacher seeking the lost, he was a hireling. People were saved from his biblical quotations, because the Word saves, not Billy. He was a good orator and charismatic personality.
@@WithoutGodYouCantDoDiddlySquat I remember reading an article in a November 1993 issue of Time magazine, where he stated , Quote . The virgin birth of Christ is a tender issue.But ! It is not necessary for one’s salvation! I still recall the exact quote!
@@timharper5543 That maybe confirms the belief that it's true - some who knew him, said that he was a 33rd degree Freemason. Their god is Lucifer, the light bearer, Jesus is evil.
Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
Romans 8:33-34
I never knew what Calvinism was, but I understood from the Bible that predestination has to be true, otherwise God is not omniscient.
But even the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Fear not therefore: ye are of more value than many sparrows. Luke 12:7
I have always said that faith is most like intuition or instinct. And faith is the gift of God. It is a knowing that is given to us by God, a knowing that we cannot otherwise explain. We just know because God caused us to know. When people do not come to God, I understand it is because God is not calling them.
John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
John 6:65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.
Matthew 16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
It really is all about God!
Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Even the faith that saves us is a gift from God.
The thing about predestination is that God is the only one who knows how it turns out. We are not privy to it. Therefore, we have to live our lives one moment at a time constantly making choices that we have no idea we will be faced with, until we are faced with them. We also have no idea what choices we will make, until we make them. However, God already knows.
God knew exactly what would happen in the garden of Eden. That is why He put the tree of the knowledge of good and evil there. He did not have to let the serpent in Eden. It was in the plan of salvation from the beginning. Adam's sin was not a failure of God. It was His plan. That is why Revelation says that the Lamb was slain from the foundation of the world. It was already in the plan. It is all about us coming back to God in repentance and falling on His mercy; and who will and who will not.
We are ordained to salvation, even before we believe.
Acts 13:48 And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.
2 Thessalonians 2:13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
Ephesians 1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
Ephesians 1:11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:
Romans 8:29-30 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
John 17:24 Father, I will that they also, whom thou has given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.
1 Peter 1:2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.
Ephesians 1:4 According as he has chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
Hebrews 4:3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
Revelation 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
Revelation 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
Matthew 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
Matthew 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Luke 18:7 And shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him, though he bear long with them?
Romans 8:33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
Colossians 3:12 Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;
Matthew 20:16 So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.
Matthew 22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen.
Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.
1 Corinthians 1:26-31 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called: But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are: that no flesh should glory in his presence. But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption: That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.
James 2:5 Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?
1 Peter 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
Revelation 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.
Isaiah 46:9-10 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me, declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure.
John 15:16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.
God is omniscient. Why do you think that means God determined who will be saved and who will not be saved? Don't you know that God is all-powerful as well as omniscient which means He gets to choose how man can come about being saved and God did just that. When the Bible says God ordained things and brought things to pass we can trust that is true and believe it, but when the Bible also tells us that regarding salvation by grace through faith, that is a choice we must make to believe and be saved, we should also trust that is true as well.
When the Bible says that it is God's will that we all are saved we should trust that and believe God wants everyone to be saved. The fact that people rebel against God and refuse to do His will and remain unbelievers is evidence that God is NOT determining all things and His will is not being done by everyone. If determinism were true and God always gets what He wants then nobody would be lost but everyone would be saved. God's will is not forced upon anyone. That is why people sin to begin with. They are free to do so and influenced and tempted by Satan and the weakness of our flesh. When the Bible says God does not tempt anyone with sin we should trust that and not be charging God with determining us to sin.
The problem with Calvinism is that it is a very deceptive lie of Satan that gets people to not trust the Word of God but instead trust in the writings of man, in confessionals, Bible studies and commentaries and in this case reformed systematic theology books and teachers. Allowing oneself to be subject to such influences makes a person get indoctrinated and then when they read the Bible it is through the lens of that system the already accepted as true, and then seeing that system everywhere in Scripture, but it really isn't there at all. You presented lots of Calvinist prooftexts. They are great Bible verses and they are true, but they do not support Calvinism. You are seeing Calvinism in them because you have presuppositions you learned that you want the Bible to say, rather than letting the Bible teach you what it actually says.
On the verse, “Many are called, few are chosen.” :
Many were called to the wedding feast in, ”Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage. So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.“ Matthew 22:9-10
The one that didn’t have the the wedding garment was casts into outer darkness.
Those that aren’t washed in the Blood of the Lamb-Jesus Christ, will not make it to the Marriage Supper of the Lamb, but will be cast into outer darkness.
We are only clothed in the righteousness of Jesus Christ. Many are called. Many are invited to the Marriage Supper of the Lamb, the chosen ones are those who are washed in the Blood of the Lamb.
He invites us all, but sadly, not all will have the proper attire because they are not born again.
”I will greatly rejoice in the LORD, my soul shall be joyful in my God; for he hath clothed me with the garments of salvation, he hath covered me with the robe of righteousness, as a bridegroom decketh himself with ornaments, and as a bride adorneth herself with her jewels.“
Isaiah 61:10
@@Nicole_y1 Romans 9:14-24 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid. For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
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”And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.“
Revelation 22:17 KJV
Emphasis on whosoever.
@@Nicole_y1 All scripture has to be taken together. You can't have one without the other. You can't believe one and ignore the other. God is the only one who already knows whosoever will. He also already knows whosoever won't.
Just erased a wall of text sensing debating on the internet is a big waste of time
Just going to say GODbless
"He is not the author of sin, but he is sovereign over it, and he has decreed it" if God decreed it that makes him the author of it 😑. It's funny because you have the Calvinists say God decreed whatsoever will come to pass. Jeremiah 19:5 says otherwise. Also the verse you quoted from 1 Tim. 2, I've heard Calvinists say that this isn't talking about everyone but rather just "all kinds" of people. Looking at the greek I can see how they could possibly come up with that interpretation but when you look at it in context Paul is clearly talking about everyone.
Brian cannot refute this. Experts of the original Greek language like Strong and Thayer give bible references next to the various possible meanings of the word 'kosmos' or 'world' in their definition, put John 3:16 as the one of the examples of when the word 'kosmos' is used is actually referring to BELIEVERS ONLY. Good luck Brian
How brainwashed do you have to be to believe that the word 'world' is used in Holy, God-breathed Scripture to NOT mean world. The arrogance, the audacity to think you would correct God in order to fit His Word to your own gnostic doctrine. You continue to prove that Calvinism is anti-Gospel to the core.
Try again cultist, if you’re willing.
Why can't I refute that? I'm quite certain I refuted that in this video and in many others. Kosmos means God's Creation and in particular its human inhabitants of His Creation. God did not so love the stars and the moon and the sun and clouds and lions and tigers and bears oh my, that He gave His only begotten son to save those things. And to suggest Kosmos just refers to only believers in the world is just utter nonsense and contradicts lots of Bible verses. I've shared some of them with you but you consistently ignore the truth and keep coming back with more comments trying to defend Calvinism. Give it up already.
κόσμος has never and will never refer to the Calvinistic idea of the elect. It simply means world in John 3v16
You should use a lexicon.
17-18 add further context and condemn you blasphemous reading of Scripture but good luck with your non-Apostolic understanding of scripture for you will need it in the end.
Feel free to expose Doug Wilson, he's a Calvinist and promoter of creating Christian communities, my ex church in Australia is creating alliances with him, not good at all. The reason I left (I was never a Calvinist to begin with but just went along due to friends going there).
But you and calvinists are also wrong about Eph 1:3-5.
You can only understand it by studying the type shadow of a high priest who REPRESENTS all of the Israel in the tabernacle.
Great video bro👍🏼👍🏼
Bless you, great teaching!
So, a man is saved based upon his own choosing to be so? Or, by something he must perform, i.e. his believing? From where does that faith originate? How does a man with a desperately wicked heart, that is deceitful above all things, choose that which by nature, he hates?
Believing is not something a person "performs." That would suggest that faith is a work and nobody is saved by works. Romans 3: 26-28 specifically says faith (or believing) is excluded from work. So, the Calvinist would like to ignore that reality and call faith a work unless it is given by God as a gift. They misinterpret Ephesians 2: 8,9 for that reason, making the gift of God grace and faith, rather than what it says which is the gift of God is grace (salvation) through faith and not of works. "Total Depravity" is also NOT true but simply a man-made idea straight out of Gnosticism. it is not Biblical but the concept was introduced into Christianity by Augustine and had not been affirmed by any early Church Father before him. The Bible tells us clearly that an unbeliever has the ability to become a believer simply by hearing the Gospel. Faith comes by hearing (Romans 10: 17). The Bible tells us in John 3: 19 why people reject the truth (light) and prefer the darkness, and it is because they choose to love their sin more, not because God caused or decreed them to stay in darkness.
@@faithonfireministries You completely misrepresent what Doctrines of Grace teach and what we believe. You've been thoroughly indoctrinated against the Biblical truth. We absolutely affirm the the faith in Eph. 2 is a gift. What you deny is that faith is a result of having first been made regenerate. You simply will not admit that as a "dead in trespass and sins" un-regenerated person, there is no ability nor, desire for God. You state, "Total Depravity" is also NOT true but simply a man-made idea straight out of Gnosticism. it is not Biblical but the concept was introduced into Christianity by Augustine and had not been affirmed by any early Church Father before him." Yet, Scripture plainly states, "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned". Right there is clearly the doctrine of total depravity; "death passed upon all men, ...all have sinned"! That's all inclusive. Paul is the human author of this so, you are rejecting Paul's authority! Furthermore, before regeneration man cannot nor, will not, believe. As said here, "Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be."
So, explain how and why a man who is carnally minded (dead in trespass and sins) is ever going to believe? Also, to "hear" the Gospel or, anything else from God, means to have ears to hear (referencing ability to do so). There is NONE that seek God so, you cannot claim man is looking for Him or, even interested in "hearing" Him. This plainly speaks to both desire and ability. The spiritually dead man has neither. That's what it means to be dead. Separated from the source of life, wisdom and truth (God). Finally, Jer. 19:9 says, "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?" Explain how a person with that heart condition has any desire or ability to believe, choose, etc... the Holy and that which, by nature, is dead to AND hates?!
The Holy Bible: King James Version, Electronic Edition of the 1900 Authorized Version. (Bellingham, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc., 2009), Je 17:9.
The Holy Bible: King James Version, Electronic Edition of the 1900 Authorized Version. (Bellingham, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc., 2009), Ro 8:7.
The Holy Bible: King James Version, Electronic Edition of the 1900 Authorized Version. (Bellingham, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc., 2009), Ro 5:12.
@@faithonfireministries Also, your beliefs are pure Arminian and hence, semi-pelagian which were resoundingly condemned as heretical at Dort. I seriously doubt most of you have any real understanding of the origins of "Calvinism" yet, you speak authoritatively on this. I also doubt you know the Doctrines of Grace were held to WAY before Calvin re-affirmed them at Dort and were the teachings of the true Church (no, not Roman Catholicism) traced all the way to the Apostles. I encourage you to dig into Church history to see what was being held to.
Your position make the action of believing a man-made work, choice and merit justifying action on man's ledger. Jesus said it is required to be born-again (John 3). Nicodemus didn't understand this & thought it was something man must accomplish. Jesus set him right by saying, "Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of jwater and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. 8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit." So, the wind is referring to the Holy Spirit therefore, it is God who regenerates based upon His will and choosing. Man has no part. NOT EVEN in believing. Faith does NOT CAUSE salvation. It is the RESULT of it!
No clearer proof of this exists than found in John 1:12-13 (which all Arminians conveniently leave off v. 13), "But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
Who willed a person to be born-again? Also, receiving is a totally PASSIVE activity. Man does not actively choose to believe, exercise faith or "make a decision for Christ". These all are works. Regeneration is an action of God whereby He brings to life a dead soul and regenerates that soul. The dead soul only passively receives this action. It is the new birth.
The Holy Bible: King James Version, Electronic Edition of the 1900 Authorized Version. (Bellingham, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc., 2009), Jn 1:12-13.
The Holy Bible: King James Version, Electronic Edition of the 1900 Authorized Version. (Bellingham, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc., 2009), Jn 3:5-8.
I fully understand the doctrines of grace, so just saying I don’t is a typical Calvinist response when you have no response. I’m not gonna respond to this long comment because pretty much everything you’re talking about I have repeatedly covered in videos.
@@faithonfireministries No, you don't understand them. You comments prove this so. I find it ironic you accuse me of having no response then, say you won't comment on my long response! It is always you "free-will" Arminians who refuse to be held accountable and then, make false accusations about us Sovereign Grace believers. You are a hypocrite. Your teaching is false. You are like Paul pre-conversion: absolutely sure of your position before God yet, absolutely wrong! God opened Paul's eyes to have spiritual sight and understanding. Paul did nothing! But, you insist he had faith! Not until God gave it to him!!!
You really better reconsider what you're teaching as just like Saul, you are fighting against the Gospel.
So, no answer to this question? From where does faith that justifies originate?
Read Romans 10: 9-17. The context leading up to verse 17 is important regarding salvation and 17 says, "faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God."
@@faithonfireministries Like that awful reviler I blocked they do not 'get it' on purpose because their works are schism and spiritual pugilism.
@@faithonfireministries Why did you choose to believe? Are you a better person than those who don't believe? More intelligent? You must have a reason you believed while others didn't. Just saying you did believe is not a reason.
@@faithonfireministries My specific question to you is from where did you acquire the faith that justifies? You teach your faith must be "used" or "exercised" which in turn, causes your salvation. Very clear, you teach you have faith that justifies, it causes your salvation or, regeneration. Where did you get that faith?
Scott, read John 3: 19. That is why people choose darkness over the light. They love their sins. I chose to believe on Jesus and despise my sins, loving Him for taking my sins away upon the cross. It is not about how smart a person is, but in fact, it is the Calvinist who actually thinks they are smarter than their unbelieving neighbor. They arrogantly hold to a false doctrine that teaches God predestined them (the elect) to be given the ability (intelligence) to believe and receive spiritual truths such as the Gospel of Christ, while God predestined all others to be withheld from that ability (intelligence). So, it is the Calvinist who believes and teaches they are smarter than their unbelieving neighbor. Yet, if they were really smart they would ditch Calvinism.
“For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast.
Ephesians 2:8- 9 KJV
”For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.“
Romans 9:15-16 KJV
If you are blessed to be a believer then you understand and believe these verses ! If you do not then you are following a false gospel and not believing according to the scriptures . One’s flesh does not give birth to a saved spirit. The new spirit is a gift of God . Man does nothing, except give God glory by confessing that he is born again as evidence of salvation not causing salvation.
I hate to break it to you, but it appears you do not understand the passages if you think they teach Calvinism. Especially Romans 9 passage which is a favorite prooftext of Calvinists who don't know that there are more chapters after 9. Keep reading! Romans 11 explains whom God has mercy upon now. Here is the passage that explains the follow up from what Paul wrote about mercy in chapter 9. Romans 11, "30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief: 31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy. 32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have *mercy upon all.*
The biggest deception in calvanism is that they believe they are saved automatically without them ever choosing to believe by their own free will .
DON'T MALIGN CALVIN. Yes, some of his 'disciples' were extremists, but don't damn Calvin for their errors.
I think every denomination on earth is two thirds wrong just an opinion but Jesus will be screaming at everybody when he gets here not a few of us all if us , the letters to the churches have me convinced of that 🤷♂️
You said “And that’s what the Gospel of John tells us why people choose darkness over the light” Actually John tells us: John 10:26 [26] “but you do not believe because you are not among my sheep.”
Nope, in John 10 Jesus uses the metaphor of sheep regarding all people. He says you are not of "my sheep" solely on the basis they do not believe in Him. He says that believers are His sheep but Jesus also says there are sheep of another fold that will become believers and they will join His sheep and become part of one fold of sheep (The Church, Body of Christ) and He will be their Shepherd. To suggest John 10 supports Calvinism is ridiculous.
@@faithonfireministries Incorrect, reread the verse, they don’t believe because they are not His sheep, not you don’t believe so you are not my sheep.
@@faithonfireministries “Jesus also says there are sheep of another fold that will become believers and they will join His sheep” John 10:16 [16] “And I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them also, and they will listen to my voice. So there will be one flock, one shepherd.” Hmm, now who could these be? What people were grafted into the vine? I’ll wait for your honest answer.
Verse 25 Jesus told them and they didn't believe. That is why they are not of His sheep. They believed not, because they are not of His sheep. So, those that believe are because they are of His sheep. That does not affirm Calvinism in the slightest but that believing in Jesus is the key differentiator, consistent with John 3: 16 and many other verses.
@@faithonfireministries “They believed not, because they are not of His sheep” He did not not say, you chose not to believe and therefore you are not my sheep. They didn’t believe because they were not His sheep. You have the order reversed.
Thanks to you and others who continue to Refute this Block Head Doctrine within the Body of Christ...Are you still a ECT...Believer though...If so you will be an Annihilationist when you see Jesus Face to Face...Perish means Perish and NOT Eternal Conscious Torment...
I believe in ECT but I am not dogmatic about it, and would be very happy to be wrong about it for the sake of those who don't make it into heaven.
@@faithonfireministries Hey Brian...Thanks for the Reply...Your work against Calvinism is very good...In my opinion one of the better more clear Refutations of Calvins Insanity...I pity the Christians stuck in it...About ECT...Please read Edward Fudges Book. "Hell a final word"...The best book on Hell by far...This brother really did his home work...Edward also has videos on YT...Have a great day...Jesus Loves you and so do I...
Jeremiah was sanctified before birth.
See Jer.1:5.
Paul was sanctified before birth.See Gal.1:15-16
I’m glad to see you deny Augustine‘s “original sin” doctrine, which is the lie that every person inherits Adams sin when conceived as opposed to inheriting a fallen sinful world that death entered due to sin.
My cousin has a john macarthur study bible.
Remind your cousin that the words in the Bible are inspired by God but the commentary notes in the study Bible are not.
I really don't understand the hatred of Calvinism.
It just makes the Gospel of Jesus the most important thing to preach, teach and believe
Sorry, but that just isn't true at all. Modern day Calvinists hold conference after conference and the focus is on defending TULIP, not the Gospel. TULIP results in a false gospel of being saved by unconditional election and nothing else. The true Gospel of Christ is a secondary byproduct of being chosen by God for salvation while believing God has passed over others and withheld from them saving grace.
What are some of the reasons you do t understand the hatred of calvinism?
@@faithonfireministries what if we are saved by unconditional election? Does that negate the gospel of Christ in any way? Does it diminish the fact that He died and rose again according to the scriptures and that our sins and the sins of all who believe are forgiven through His life, death and resurrection?
I'm not a strict Calvinist and I don't get involved in the philosophy, but I think the great thing about it is the emphasis on original sin.
It's not preached too often nowadays.
God bless you 🙂
Exactly. Instead of just preaching the text he makes a point of attacking calvinism. These are our brothers in Christ.
@@tyronedawson8553 Rhe christ of calvinism is not Jesus The Messiah. Impossible to coalesce these two.
Amen. Calvinism is no different from the cult Adventist church.
So why do you follow ADL?
What amazes me is why very few people who write on cults and false teachings keep Calvinism out of it. The way Calvinism views God is seriously up there with JW's and Mormonism. To say that Jesus does not love everyone, did not die for everyone, and does not want all to come to Calvary is a serious error that the Calvinists folk hold onto. Just wow...
As many as were ordained to eternal life believed.
Acts 13:48
If you read the whole chapter, you will see that that verse is in reference to the proselytes, Gentile believers who had converted to Judaism. Unlike the lost religious leaders and Pharisees that rejected Christ the Proselytes were actual old testament saints, who now hearing the true Gospel of Christ became New Testament believers because the truth resonated with them being that they were already saved, already ordained to eternal life.
What version(s) are you calling the Calvinist version?
Their interpretation of John 3: 16 is what I am referring to in regards to Unconditional Election which leads them to not see John 3: 16 as it is written, a promise of eternal life to all who will believe, but rather claim that all those who believe do so only because they were decreed to do so by God choosing them for salvation before time began. Another way to have said it would be that they interpret John 3: 16 to mean "whosoever is elect shall not perish..."
However, if you want to talk about biased Bible versions that have faulty translations that were changed to give Calvinism greater credibility, that is a great topic and perhaps I will do a video on that in the future showcasing the examples. I have already discussed that before a time or two. The ESV, NASB and now the LSB are highly biased towards Calvinism and a works based gospel.
Try using the Berean Standard Bible (BSB). It is unbiased! The ESV was made by Crossway which is a Calvinistic/Reformed organization. I actually use the Berean Literal Bible (BLB) whenever I study the New Testament (because it is literal!), though it is not in print yet.
We don't need to worry about John 3:16 norJohn Calvin as much as we need to worry about how denominations today are perverting the gospel concerning our very salvation We are saved by believing that Christ died for our sins at Calvary, was buried and rose again on the 3rd day, 1 Cor 15: 1-4, not John 3:16 which is believe on the name of Jesus, that he was the Messiah. John didn't know anything about the cross when he wrote that. Let's get people saved, times a runnin out!
Huh? Are you saying the Apostle John didn't know about the cross? Maybe I misunderstood what you are saying here, but Apostle John wrote the Gospel of John, his 3 epistles and Revelation as the last books of the New Testament written. All of the NT books were written well after the cross during the early church. John most certainly knew all about Christ's death, burial, resurrection, and accession as he was a witness to all that.
@@faithonfireministries Maybe you misunderstood. Matthew Mark Luke and John did not preach salvation through Christ's atoning death on the cross for our sins, his burial and resurrection on the 3rd day because they didn't know about it. That wasn't revealed until Jesus revealed it to the apostle Paul. MMLJ were believing Christ's Kingdom was coming; they were to repent, be baptized, keep the law; when Jesus said behold we go up to Jerusalem ...he shall be delivered unto the gentiles, and be mocked...and they shall scourge him and put him to death, and on the third day he shall rise again" Luke 18:31- 33. The twelve were with him.John was there. Verse 34: And they understood none of these things., and this saying was hid from them, neither knew they the things that were spoken. But more important, Matt 16:21 From that time forth began Jesus to shew his disciples how that he must go to Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders...and be killed, and be raised on the third day. And Peter began to rebuke him saying, Be it far from thee Lord, this shall not be unto thee! But he turned and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me Satan. Matt: 16: 21-23.They did not know about the cross, Christ's atonement for our sins on the cross. John 3:16- that whosoever believeth in him shall be saved. No cross no atonement. Because the plan of salvation by his atoning death was hid from them Luke 18-34. It was hid from before the world, until it was revealed to Paul by the risen Lord. That was the mystery Paul speaks of.
@@faithonfireministries Contined from my last post, a couple things to clarify: During Jesus' ministry on earth, jews were indeed saved by believing the gospel that he, Jesus, and the apostles preached. Those believing jews are referred to as the flock, or the little flock, as you see mentioned frequently. This sheep/ shepherd theme can be illustrated in Matthew 10:5:6- Jesus said Go not into the way of the Gentiles...but go rather to the lost sheep of Israel. Jesus was gathering his flock together, for his Kingdom. John 21:15-17 Jesus says to Peter feed my lambs, and feed my sheep.
The apostles believed that the Messiah's kingdom was coming, at that very time; John the Baptist preached repent, be baptised for the kingdom of heaven is at hand; Jesus said ( Matt 10:7 ) And as ye go, preach, saying, the kingdom of heaven is at hand: Jesus taught the apostles to pray " thy kingdom come;" they were so sure that the Kingdom was at hand that they were selling their possessions, and giving the proceeds to the apostles to distribute to the poor. See the story of Ananais and Sapphira in Acts 5 - where they sold property and kept some of the money. In 5:3 Peter says " Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?"
The apostles were stunned, and confused, and did not understand when Jesus began to talk about going to Jerusalem where he will be put to death. See Acts 1:6 the apostles were gathered together and they asked of him, Jesus, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? They did not understand because Jesus kept this understanding HID from them Luke 18:34.
Why would Jesus HIDE the MEANING of THESE THINGS WHICH WERE SPOKEN? Well, not only was the MEANING behind the crucifixion hidden from the apostles, it was hidden from the prophets ( although the death of the Messiah on a cross was prophesied, the MEANING behind it was hidden), from the angels, AND FROM SATAN. The mystery that God ordained before the world ( 2 Cor: 7 )which Jesus revealed to the Apostle Paul, the MYSTERY of God's offer of Salvation to the Whole World through his son's ATONING death for our sins, and the gospel of grace ( 1 Cor 15: 1-4) was kept hid for this reason: 1 Cor 2: 8... FOR IF THEY ( satan and the " princes of this world " ) HAD KNOWN IT, THEY WOULD NOT HAVE CRUCIFIED THE LORD OF GLORY.
Yes, they did know it. All 4 Gospels were written after the account of Acts 15. The 3 Gospels are synoptic Gospels giving the account of the earthly ministry of Jesus Christ, including eye witnesses to His death, burial and resurrection. However they are writing about the events of that time which of course came before the meeting in Acts 15 occurred, but Matthew, Mark and Luke all wrote them after the events of Acts 15 with Paul and the other apostles. The Gospel of Luke was the last one of the four to be written and is the evangelistic Gospel focused on the deity of Christ and the Gospel of grace, believing by faith in Christ.
Also, justification by faith is a firm concept in the Bible, going all the way back to Genesis 15 in which it is written that Abraham believed God and it was counted to him as righteousness.
@@faithonfireministries Did you not understand ?
Expect more demons soon to pervert Christianity, and Calvinism is not the cause, but was used only as an excuse. The church is conglomerated with different contradicting doctrines of leaven as prophesied by the Lord Himself. Matt. 13:33. It cannot be denied that Calvinism is one of the roads tracing the continuity of the church. The problem is the spirit of condemnation among Calvinists, non Calvinists, and others as hell bound despite of their faith in Jesus Christ. One cannot put God in a small box of so-called absolute truth.
John 6:37 [37] “All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out.” What is the order, men coming to Christ and then given to Christ or the Father giving and then men coming?
In him means in him. The reason the words to be is not added is that God is showing that the believer was in Christ from eternity past. We were always there . Calvinists do not add “to be” since it says exactly what is true and what we believe that we were in him before the foundation of the earth. To be adds an element of time which is not correct but Armenians believe that they make a decision to be in Christ
Sorry, but you are mistaken and Ephesians 2 makes that perfectly clear. I'll quote it in a moment, but first I hope you realize that being "in Christ" is what born again people are. If that happened in eternity past then when exactly do you think they lost that status as sinners and had to get "in Christ" again? That makes no sense. Calvinism is debunked because it all hinges on the Total Depravity doctrine, the T in TULIP, and if the elect were already "in Christ" before they were born, then they were never in a state of Total Depravity, but Calvinism says everybody is in that state and only the elect come out of that state of spiritual deadness when they receive Irresistible Grace, the I in TULIP.
All of the doctrines of Calvinism are wrong anyway. Here is Ephesians 2 that proves EVERYONE was "without Christ" before they come to faith in Christ and then become "in Christ." "11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; 12 That at that time *ye were without Christ* , being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: 13 *But now in Christ Jesus* ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
@@faithonfireministries Look at Jeremiah and you will see what in Christ means . Before you were born. You need to rightly divide the word of truth between fleshly things and spiritual things . In Christ mind we were saved before time in eternity past . Ie in the spirit . He knew all would fall and that he would save His elect as. Evidence I the flesh. He also said most would not believe .
You didn't answer me about Ephesians 2: 11-13. You only deflected to Jeremiah. But my video was about Ephesians 1 and you questioned when a person is "in Christ" from Ephesians 1 and said that occurs in eternity past. But Ephesians 2 says otherwise. Why don't you agree with Ephesians 2: 11-13?
@@faithonfireministries you do not believe in total depravity yet Ephesians 2 teaches total depravity ! Please read . Verses 2:11 and 12 as speaking speaking about the flesh and you are correct ,but what you are saying negates what we knownabout the spirit and mind of Christ. We were in the mind of Christ in eternity past , him knowing that he would save his elect from eternity past from their sins . You have to look at both flesh and spirit or you will come to a perverted truth .
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Okay, but I still believe Ephesians 1 speaks of *what* is predestined in eternity past to be granted to believers rather than *who* is predestined to become believers. If the latter is true, then the Gospel is certainly not good news to most people. That can't be true because of many Bible verses to the contrary, but how about this one example in Luke 2: 10 in which the angels announced to the Shepherds the birth of Jesus Christ, "And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people." It says "which shall be to all people." If Calvinism is true then Jesus being born was to "elect" people only. But it is true that Calvinists love to say that when the Bible says all or all men, all people, the world, or even whole world, every man, etc. God really didn't mean that, but only meant the elect.
I believe almost everything you said, except for once saved always saved, I disagre, the bible does not teach that, you see almost every teacher of the bible, if not careful, is prone to misinterpretation of certain scriptures in the bible, and like the calvinist, almost all bible teachers have their share of misinterpreting certain scriptures, some a lot, some not so much, I believe when certain people begin to aquire a little scriptural knowledge, they tend to fall into they know it all, adding their own human opinions into scripture to justify their interpretation of scripture, very dangerous, especially for those who hear it and run with it as biblical truth, so many Christians today are so spiritually ignorant ,gullible and prone for deception, my advice, pray and ask God for spiritual discernment and wisdom, study to show yourself approved, know God's word to avoid being led astray, allow the Holy Spirit to teach you in your pursuit in studying God's Word, MORIAL = God Teaches, or God is our Teacher.❤
I am grateful we agree with a lot. But the OSAS issue is actually much more important than a lot of people realize because it speaks to the very credibility of the words of Jesus Christ in Scripture. Please consider for a moment that you could be confusing salvation with sanctification. Many Christians and Pastors do. Some do it willfully because they are literally preaching a false works salvation model and they are false teachers that are trying to bring people under the Law of God rather than being under grace where true salvation is. Paul wrote it is either one or the other, but not both.
Anyone trying to be saved by keeping the Law is actually not saved because the Law only serves to show us that we need grace and to trust in Christ alone and His work, not our own works, because we are all guilty under the Law. If we try to do work to fulfill the Law righteously, then we will fail. Only one ever did that perfectly which was Jesus Christ. John 1: 17, "For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ."
Christians are called to be disciples and with the help of the Holy Spirit be sanctified, but there are many Bible passages that treat initial salvation and how we are kept eternally saved as being a totally separate matter from sanctification or as some would call it, spiritual maturity. It is undeniable that we are saved by Christ alone and kept saved by Christ alone. If His Word says that, which it does, especially in John 10, and He does not do it, then that would make Jesus a liar who does not fulfill His Word in us. Nope, He most certainly does tell us the truth and fulfills it without our help.
Unfortunately, if a person does not believe in OSAS, then they must believe they get saved and then work to keep earning salvation which is taking the credit and glory away from the finished redemptive work of Christ and placing it back upon themselves, saved by their own good deeds. I'm all for doing good deeds, especially in the form of the work of ministry to help others know Jesus and be saved and to edify one another in the Body of Christ, but we have crossed a line into error if we think these works and self-discipline are actually what keeps us saved. That is adding to the Gospel of Christ.
Romans 4: 5, "But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness." Paul wrote this another way as well in Galatians 2: 16, "Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified."
I believe you misunderstood what I said about osas. I do understand what salvation is, repentance and putting our faith in Christ and His finish work on the cross for our salvation, it's all by faith, there's absolutely nothing we can add to His work to improve our salvation, yes we do good works, but not to win points with God. Then begins the sanctifying work in our lives by the Holy Spirit, now because of our imperfections and weaknesses of our flesh, we will willfully or unintentionally sin, make mistakes, grow spiritually lukewarm or cold, and sometimes some will eventually fall away, but amazingly the Holy Spirit continues to convict us to draw us back to God to spiritually grow and mature, but it's also a fact that sadly some don't return, their heart's get hard and cold, they go back into the world and become worse than they were before, the bible talks about that, but some will say that they were never born again to begin with, I don't know about that, God only knows, the bible also says in the last days even the very elect could be deceived and possibly fall away, I believe some will, but how could they, they were securely saved, Jesus said it 2 or 3 time do not be deceived in those days, why would he say that?, but we already know many have already been deceived today and led astray, I'm talking about born again Christians, this is what I was referring to on osas, we might truly be born again, but, we can fall away and miss heaven, most will go back like a dog goes back to his vomit, it is possible for a Christian to fall away and go back into the world, in other words, yes they were saved, but they squandered their salvation away by going back to a sinful lifestyle, but weren't they securedly saved 🤔?. The one problem with osas, some Christians, especially young new born again Christians will take that as a license to sin, not all, but some, I asked a Christian friend once, if you're having sexual relations with a women and the rapture occurs, will you be ruptured, to my amazement he said yes, but wait a minute, doesn't the bible say that nothing can separate us from the (love) of God which is in Christ Jesus, and that Jesus will never abandon us, but wait a minute, the bible also says to the Christian church, for to be carnally minded is death, meaning living according to the flesh is death, it's referring to Christians, not unbelievers, Paul is speaking to the church. My point here brother, yes we are spiritually saved, but we can squander that blessing away if we go back into the world and live a sinful lifestyle again,but if we live by the Spirit, we will have life and peace, brother your osas teaching is flawed, but I'm pretty sure you're going to stick with it, and it will profit nothing on this endless debate going back and forth on this issue, what's more critically important is the salvation of soul's that need Jesus. ❤
9:48 I make this mistake often.
When does verse 4 say he has chosen us? “Before the foundation of the world” not after we weighed the option Jesus gave us.
It does not say individuals were chosen for salvation before the foundation of the world. You are adding that Calvinistic presupposition to the text. It is clear that Christians (those who are in Christ) were chosen to be holy and without blame before God. That is consistent with the rest of Scripture regarding salvation. Your Calvinistic view is not consistent with any Scripture.
I am a Christian, although you may call me a calvinist if you'd like. Happy to answer any questions i can so long as your intent is civil discussion. It doesnt seem many of the comments have a true grasp on what the augustine/calvin view is.
Great video Brian. Of all the erroneous teachings within Christendom:
Oneness/Anti-trinitarians.
Besides accepting Jesus you must keep the Sabbath & eat Kosher/SDA
The Pope speaks Excathedra & Mary answers prayer.
Speaking in tongues is THE evidence of one's salvation.
Baptismal-Regeneration.
They all still teach everyone CAN be saved.
Only Calvinism teaches: All can't & won't be saved by God's decree.
I always like 👍 your videos & recommend'm to others. I'm still with Michael Heiser & others, that we volitionally/freely choose Jesus & therefore CAN freely renounce Him/Divorce/no longer want Him (not loose our salvation from sinning or poor performance). Too many scriptures to ignore regarding walking away willfully, IMO. I don't see any passage that says you lock yourself in no matter how much you want out later. Nonetheless, you're using your talents with these videos ☝️
You can fall away from the faith but never lose your salvation.
There is no gospel without OSAS.
Anyone who thinks that they can lose their salvation is by default trusting in their works.
@@colonalklink14 Ya, I'm still with Heiser, Pawson & Prasch on this. I prefaced, you don't LOOSE it by sinning or poor performance, but by volitional renouncing. God hates divorce, yet we Christians divorce. Maybe the Lord will show me otherwise. I'm in my 60s, have been in ministry since the late 1980s. Sadly I've seen solid fruit bearing saints (decades of fruit) fall away willfully
@@colonalklink14 You can call Jesus "Lord, Lord" all you want, but if you are a worker of iniquity, you will not enter into His joy.
@@RezG_777 The will of the Father is found in John 6:40.
These people were bragging about their many wonderful works.
Mathew 7:21-23 actually describes the fate of the faith plus works equals salvation crowd.
They were called workers of iniquity because they were not clothed in the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus.
They, much like yourself, believed that Jesus is necessary but not sufficient.
@@mikelyons2831 You obviously don't believe in Everlasting life.