Lazarus was ALREADY a believer, prior to his death! Jesus' raising Lazarus foreshadows the resurrection of the believers. not the unbelievers! (Mary, Martha and their household had Jesus as their guest regularly and Lazarus was a follower of Jesus along with his sisters prior to his death).
@@christophersailor5592 Rom 3:9-20 speaks of the LAW and WORKS. We are all unrighteous and all guilty as far as the Law and Works are concerned. This is why in other passages Holy Scripture speaks of mankind's HEART. And there we indeed see how man - (in all of humans' sinfulness) year and long for God's righteousness and grace. UNLESS THEY HARDEN THEIR HEARTS. Then God leaves them to their own devices. 2 Cor :16 "Even to this day when Moses is read, a veil covers their hearts But whenever anyone turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away." The sequence is: Whenever anyone 1. TURNS their heart to God, then 2. and as a consequence of the turning of one's heart- the veil is taken away. The veil being the separation between God and mankind (see Temple Curtain rent asunder at the Cross when Christ paid for our sins). [Not the other way around: Not veil taken and after that all of a sudden our hearts turns, as Calvinist ideology falsely claims.]
Have you thought that perhaps both doctrines are taught with Lazaru's resurrection? How do you explain Acts 2:23? Moving on further, explain this: Was Jesus Christ’s crucifixion predetermined since it was foretold in the bible? Was it at any point that Christ could not have been crucified? Was there at any point that Judas could have changed his mind and not betray Jesus? Was Christ’s crucifixion only foreseen (as if God foresaw in the future what would happen and based on that He made His decision)? If God actually predetermined Christ’s crucifixion what causes the certainty of its outcome?
@@mr.jollybear5180 explain this: WHy was Jesus tempted by the Devil? Why Did Jesus pray in agony sweating blood on Calvary? Why did Jesus beseech his disciples to stay up and pray with him though they fell asleep? And WHY do you QUEStion GOD's ABILITY to give us free will? WHY DO YOU REDUCE God to a TYRANt who cannot KEEP HIS PRomise of man created in HIS IMAGE? DO you BElieve GOD has NO FREE WILL? Explain this: Why did God Send Jonah to change the mind of the NNEVITES? Why did GOD say on numerous occasions that HE REPENTED His own choice? WHY do you DOUBT that GOD keeps His Promise to give us a CHOICE? As in: "Choose you this day..." And countless other incidences? WHY DO you Reduce GDD ALMIGHTY into one of your OWN image a reduced god? " LOrd open this person's eyes and mind so he might behold that YOU are far greater than his limited small-minded understanding can comprehend." Amen and Amen In Jesus Name we pray.
Yes, Lazarus was already a believer. And, spoiler alert.... he died again. Jesus said specifically why he tarried and permitted Lazarus to die, it had nothing to do with illustrating salvation and everything to do with demonstrating who he was, and the authority he had. If you want to read some interesting distorted stuff,,, look up how Calvinists try to explain the story of the Prodigal Son... They usually begin with suggesting no parable is perfect. Ignoring the obvious and trying to amplify what little they can find to fit their 'system'. And before they've finished one would need a weedeater to find their way back to the Bible version. they cannot read any scripture without filtering through the lens of TULIP first.
@@hzlkelly Tks. Yes. Calvinists begin by accepting the Augustinian premise that "all men are BORN unable to respond positively to God". There is no verse to support that to be the condition of all men from 'birth'... but it is the foundation stone of their enter doctrine. And it is inseparable from examining any verse in the Bible from their perspective. It is the "given" of any Calvinist argument. If one is convinced to accept that false premise.... the rest of Calvinism becomes necessary by process of logic. If all men are 'born' hating God and rebelling against him, unable to believe in him... how does anyone get saved? THAT is the question they begin trying to answer and each answer they propose only creates more questions... which must be answered and in turn create even more questions. It's ridiculous. But once they tie their leg to Augustinian Total Depravity/Inability... it's inescapable. They are not a monolithic group but they are pretty consistent in their inability to accept anyone ever rejects Calvinism because they DO understand it. Most conversations with those who disagree with them end with comments like , "you just don't understand Calvinism" and/or "Who are you to question God?".... when it's not God, but Calvinism in question.
@@R.L.KRANESCHRADTT that's exactly it. I actually started by listening to reformed Baptists then I joined some baptist groups on FB and 90% of the time it was bashing charismatic preachers a d praying John Mcarthur so I began examing from afar & I found them to be plagued by a Pharisee mindset. It was amazing how I didn't see it from the get go. But you've described them to the letter. That's exactly how they are.
@@hzlkelly Their well polished arguments can be convincing to those believers who are unprepared for how they 'use' scripture to build there case. It's sometimes possible for a Calvinist to convince an unsuspecting Christian they've been a Calvinist all along and just didn't know it.. in under a half an hour! Fortunately, we have more and more channels like this one taking Leighton Flowers lead and helping 'lift the curtain' to expose the nonsense and the misrepresentation of God's character Calvinism promotes.
What? So spiritual death is now equitable to actual, literal, physical death? RC both grants more activity to a rotting corpse than is possible while simultaneously reducing a living, breathing, thinking, acting human being to the same state of the aforementioned corpse! The mind of the calvinist is truly a scary place!
An analogy doesn't come from the Bible. An analogy is something compared to ordinary life, which is how Jesus used parables. If you use something from the Scripture, you are making a proof text. Go back to Ephesians 2, "you were dead in your sins, IN WHICH YOU FORMERLY WALKED..." Dead men do not walk or make decisions. Death clearly means a separation between a person and God. And consider Lazarus's condition, "to be abstinent from the body is to be with the Lord." R.C. Sproul's "analogy" is nothing but Folly.
Calvinists would argue that the "son" in the parable of the two sons and the loving father was already saved and just went "wandering" as that would be a depiction of God predetermining the salvation of the "lost" one anyways. But then again, the word "dead" would not make sense here. So, I am with you here. I don't like Calvinism at all.
Yes, and we have the verse that says God is not willing that any should perish. How can we trust in a God who tells us through inspired word that he is not willing that any should perish when the CALVINIST truth of the matter is that absolutely he is willing that billions should perish, and not only that, but that God determined and predestined the destiny of those that would perish before the world even began? One cancels the other out. And what THEY will say is that God has his secret will and he has his revealed will. Well, if his will is secret, how is it that THEY know it? What made THEM special to know that his secret well is that actually indeed he is willing billions should perish??? 😡 THAT is so not right. It is so very wrong. It is just NOT true. God says what HE means and means when HE says. And HE says HE IS NOT willing that any should perish. Many do perish and will be damned. So who made them perish? IT WAS NOT GOD
@@aletheia8054 Lost is an unsaved person, found is a saved person. Unsaved person is not elect, except for Hell, by default. John 3:18 Election to glory is only in Christ. So when does that happen? This is what Paul says. "Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ." Eph 2:11-13 That's Paul to Gentile Believers at his present time. Gentiles (that includes you) had no hope, and without God, aliens, and strangers before the Lord paid for the sins of the world (includes Gentiles). At that time, no Gentile was 'in Christ', Paul says Gentiles were without Christ. And as an individual, that's what you were right up to the moment you believed. If you are actually a saved person, that's when your personal 'now in Christ' happened, when you believed. "In time past' is contrasted with 'but now in Christ', spoken to born-again Believers. And you thought you were 'in Christ' before the foundation of the world, right? So how do you explain Paul's words?
it was the love of Jesus Christ that drew me in. Pastors who pass judgement against victim's of sexual abuse is big turn off and that is not what I read about Jesus Christ in his word when I read it.
This channel made me aware how SUBTLY Calvinism totally turns the Gospel on its head when you follow down the path of Calvinist thinking: 1. What initially looks like a minor deviation turns into a massive abyss that swallows up Bible truth 2. Most of us feel yeah without God I am sliding ever deeper into depravity! WHICH IS TRUE. But the Bible tells us that only AFTER a person keeps hardening their heart does God ABANDON them to their depravity. He stands at the door and knocks but despite HIS attempts they keep Him out and harden THEMSELVES. As a result of their hardening HE says, leave them alone they have adjoined themselves to Baal .Hosea 4:17 "Ephraim is joined to idols, Leave him alone." This depravity comes only AFTER they continually and obstinately refuse to turn and seek that which is good namely God and His Salvation.
So much child abuse esp. those following Calvinism (Victorian Age etc) was based on Calvinist ideology. 'Beat the devil out of the children' it was assumed they are little depraved devils aka Total Depravity which justified the horrific child abuse. And, if the child was predestined for destruction the abuse was justified in their minds anyways. Victorian Age orphanages adopted that attitude with horrible results.
@@paulpowell6418 He knocks at EVERYONE's door my dear. It is up to US to open or not to open. It is our choice. Some respond and some do harden themselves.
@@paulpowell6418 P.S.: you make the sweeping false claim that I take Rev 3:20 out of context. WHAT context do you see this verse in? Your claim is that he only knocks on the door of the supposed 'elect'? Nowhere does it say so. Can you prove that from Scriptures?
@@paulpowell6418 TO THOSE WHO HAVE NOT TURNE DOT CHRIST! BTW, I spent a full two year studying Revelation. Each of the admonishing to the 7 churches have multiple applications 1. the physical churches existing at these locations at that tome, 2. Church history... as centuries and ages roll by you can see how different church attitudes apply to the predominant Zeitgeist churches at different ages embraced. 3. The Individual human. Cheers and happy studying! ESP REVELATION MIGHT BE OF INTEREST TO YOU ONCE YOU DIG DEEPER. BEST OF LUCK!
@@paulpowell6418 OH y the gross assumptions that you make LOL! Revelation is three-dimensional chess and more and you seem to understand it one-dimensionally. But that is fine...keep reading and studying hopefully things will click for you on some level. As far as your aggressive tone you might want to look into that and making sweeping assumptions about others that have no grounding in reality. A therapist might help with that particular disorder. Best of LUCK! Cheers and Good Bye!
@@mr.jollybear5180 Really? It's painful to hear that God made creatures with the ability to know Him and that He gives everyone one of them the way? Interesting.
I’ll tell you what, not a single non-Calvinist has ever addressed the following questions to me: Was Jesus Christ’s crucifixion predetermined since it was foretold in the bible? Was it at any point that Christ could not have been crucified? Was there at any point that Judas could have changed his mind and not betray Jesus? Was Christ’s crucifixion only foreseen (as if God foresaw in the future what would happen and based on that He made His decision)? If God actually predetermined Christ’s crucifixion what caused the certainty of its outcome? What causes the certainty of any prophecy to come? You most certainly have the answers to these questions. Elucidate it for me since I am looking through the lens of Calvinism. Or, will you avoid like the rest of you on RUclips channels hiding under the false pretense of self-righteousness? @@KISStheSON...
@@KISStheSON...when you have a high sense of self, people that agree with you, and a low view of everyone else, especially God. It is painful to hear that God wants everyone to come to repentance to be saved. Probably why they rush past that verse lol
A question for my Calvinist brothers: If the "elect"(Calvinist understanding of this word) were always in Christ, chosen before the foundations of the world, then how did they get Out of Christ, enemies, children of wrath, in order to be brought back in? Calvinism renders sin irrelevant. In Calvinism there is no chance that the elect would ever go to hell, because of God's choice, and any sin they committed is irrelevant.
I agree with most of what you said here, especially the part about Covert Calvinism. But in my experience most Reformed people are just going about their lives as believers, not trying to cram TULIP down anybody's throat. I attended a Presbyterian church for a couple of years over 20 years ago, and nobody there even brought up Calvinism. It was a good church and I liked most of the people. It was many years after I left that I started studying Calvinism, and I went back and checked and discovered that those people were Reformed. They were what I would call the D. James Kennedy brand of Reformed rather than the John MacArthur brand. I would never accuse them of preaching a false gospel or anything like that. The problem is the activists who go to all the conferences, read all the books, and want to debate everybody. They may be the minority but they're a very vocal minority.
I would respectfully ask, if a very kind and very genuine group both overtly and covertly promoted a message, in these end times, in the church, and not about a minor or secondary issue, but about the very Lord Jesus Christ, the extent of his love, his very sacrifice, his atonement, his perseverance, his very Gospel, and this 'genuine' group turned every aspect literally on its head, denied everything the Scripture and God clearly said....what more would this group need to do for it to be the false Gospel Paul warned believers about so empathically in Galatians? By definition, "Things that are different are not the same". Someone said, Calvinism is like a five pronged attack on the Gospel itself. It seems to me Satan is working really hard to deceive believers and prevent true conversions, both aggressively and by stealth, infecting churches. Also as someone said, sincerity is not a substitute for truth. Having said this, I think most people in these churches have believed the true Gospel, before they stumbled into Calvinism. That's what happened to me for a few years. By God's mercy, I read, was convicted, and got out relatively quickly.
Thanks for sharing that. It is possible the church you attend was a breed of Presbyterian not so caught up being constant defenders of Calvinism, but traditionally speaking the Presbyterians are the Calvinists though that has spread dramatically over the last 20 years. They are often unapologetically Calvinistic, like RC Sproul. While I am not trying to disagree with your experience, but just throwing this out there... could it be possible that over 20 years ago you did not recognize Calvinism as clearly as you do today? Maybe you studied back then. I am just guessing. I certainly didn't. I also briefly attended a Presbyterian church years ago every Sunday for a couple years because at that time it was the only Brazilian Bible church around and my wife is from Brazil. So we went there for a time and made some very good friends, some of which have actually moved to Orlando like us and are still close friends. Brazilian churches are a dime a dozen here and even well before we moved here my wife and I decided to go back to an English speaking church, but maintained those friendships. My wife is fluent in both languages but I am not, and I had to listen to a translator when it was available. I don't really remember any strong Calvinistic teachings looking back but that could be for two reasons... the pastor was not in agreement with many of the Presbyterian teachings but just stuck with what the Bible says (in Portuguese). Perhaps his disagreements were about Calvinism. I don't remember. I didn't know squat about Calvinism back then, so I would not recognize it like today. I would more likely have simply recognized a thought or teaching at a sermon that made me think to myself, that sounds off from what I read in the Bible myself. That is probably the extent of what I would have noticed. So, you are probably right, and most certainly there are the Calvinist activists out there today and as you said, they are a very loud vocal minority. God bless you!
@@paulpowell6418 Doesn't matter what I believe. I'm not his judge. I was not with him nor did I speak with RC Sproul in his latter days before dying. Did he repent and trust in Christ alone rather than in his false ideas of unconditional election? Hard to say. That is between him and God. I can tell you this much though. He was a heretic that knowingly and willingly distorted the Word of God in order to further his religious system and he led many astray.
@@faithonfireministries Affirming TULIP does not preclude one from salvation in my opinion. Suggesting it does overlooks what one must believe to be saved as spelled out in scripture.There are hard-core types on both sides of the isle who each deny salvation from the other. They should not. I think both are ignoring what scripture says about what one must believe to be saved. And God has determined to save those who believe. The argument is not “if” they believe in Christ, it is “how” and “why” they believe. I believe a Calvinist can be saved, regardless of how confused he may have become about how it happened. Most Calvinists have come to Christ and salvation before knowing anything about Calvinism... now that I think about it, this is true even of R.C. Sproul! He became convinced of the "doctrines of grace" by a college professor as a young Christian seminary student. He started his Christian walk as a non-Calvinist. LIke Piper, he claimed to deny and kick and cry and resist the 'Doctrines of Grace' aggressively until finally accepting them... doesn't sound like a normal reaction to hearing "Good News" to me.. just sayin'🤔🤔 Dr Sproul even wrote of his own struggles with 'assurance' trying to offer comfort to others who also struggle. But he could offer no hope, only commiseration. Because, in the end TULIP offers none, only the hope that one was truly 'picked'. He believed in who Christ is and what he had done, virgin birth, sinless life, scrifical death, resurrection, ascension, etc. but had tied his leg to a doctrine which planted the seed of doubt that it could be trusted that Christ died for any one specific individual, even himself, personally. I think God merciful I don't doubt Sproul's salvation, it's of no benefit for me to do so and it's above my paygrade anyway.
Good one Brother! I’m glad your channel exists to expose the complete heretical teaching of Calvinism. Death in the Bible implies separation. When Adam & Eve fell, the day they ate of the fruit they were separated from God. I do believe that both grace and faith are gifts. We all have the capability to believe and make the choice to respond to the gospel by an act of our own free will. The Bible teaches that we suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because we prefer darkness, not because we don’t have the ability to choose. And yes, exercised faith comes before regeneration, as we respond to the truth of God’s Word and are born again. 🙏
So I’m in bed with covid. Don’t worry I’m fine just tired and it’s a head cold Watching this video and I agree with all of it and shared with your anger with sproul who I used to love reading. One suggestion if I may. I wouldn’t use , me personally, the parable of the prodigal . You are correct in your assessment, i just think using another example from scripture would be better. 1. The prodigal is a picture of father/son kingdom relationship. I know everyone uses it as a salvation parable and in a sense it is, but probably not an eternal salvation issue. The father and son already are in relationship. The son leaves and is no longer under the protection of the father, then returns . I don’t know if this is a picture of eternal life or if it’s a picture of a kingdom relationship. But I lean toward the latter . 2. Cornelius isn’t a parable. It has specifics about what he did, what God did, when he received the HS which was after hearing and believing . I just think it a stronger argument . With that being said, a pastor supporter of ours is very upset with my comments about Calvinism. He says he’s not a Calvinist but he is in reality a 4 point Calvinist. Which technically means he’s a 5 point but he’s uncomfortable saying he believes in the L in tulip. But it doesn’t matter. You can’t say you don’t beleive in limited atonement but you do in Gods election to salvation. That just makes no sense Anyway, love the video and thanks for your work Jgod
John, Hope you are fully restored in no time! God bless you. So, on your 2nd point, yes that is a great example. I will keep that in mind if I do a video like this one again. However, on the first point, let me briefly explain how I see the Prodigal Son. There are many kids that grow up in Christian homes, go to church weekly with their parents, know the true Gospel but they simply never care and never take it seriously. They go off to college, do some wild living, don't return to church and act like the Prodigal Son. Then as an adult some of them (sadly not all) come to their senses like the Prodigal Son and rather than come home literally, they return to that firm foundation that was instilled in them, they embrace the Gospel of Jesus Christ and become saved and realize how amazing the gift of grace truly is, and how merciful and patient God is with us all. That is what was going on in the Prodigal Son story in my opinion. I don't actually believe this was a saved son who just backslid and then repented and got right with God so to speak. The father twice called him "dead" but alive again. He was not physically dead obviously, so the only option left is spiritually dead. Sorry to hear about the pastor that is supporting you but giving you some grief over comments about Calvinism. I agree with you that he is truly a 5 pointer no doubt. I watched a video with RC Sproul sitting next to John MacArthur once. They were asked to comment on whether or not someone can be anything but a 5 point Calvinist. They both answered and agreed that if you believe in just one point of Calvinism it is just a matter of time before you learn how these doctrines are intertwined and if one is true they all must be true, so in time such a person will become a 5 point Calvinist. I agree with them on that. If one is true they are all true logically speaking because it is a well thought out philosophy, but just does not hold up to Scripture. On the flip side, if you can debunk just one point of Calvinism legitimately with Scripture than anyone can start to see Scripture debunks all 5 points, because they all are intertwined and related. Well, I hope you can work things out in that relationship. That is a tough one. May God grant you wisdom and bless you!
The entire massive doctrinal edifice of Calvinism is designed to protect and obscure just one tiny idea, and that's the "U" in TULIP: Unconditional Election. The other points and the greater body of ideas and doctrines is just to support Fatalism.
My first realisation that something is wrong with Calvinism came when a friend tried telling me John 3:16 doesn’t mean what it says, and he went on to adjust several words in it. So, to him the world means the elect, God doesn’t love everybody, and whosoever doesn’t mean what it usually does! That was the first telltale sign to me. I’ve since discovered numerous other problems with that worldview.
I am 100% with you in your stand against Calvinism, but I don't think the prodigal son story is the best one to use. I am convinced that it is speaking of backsliding, since he was already a son. But you touched on the fatal flaw of Calvinism in that Sproul confuses physical death with spiritual death. This is seen in Genesis. What did God say would happen to Adam and Eve if they ate of the forbidden fruit? "Thou shalt surely die." Did they drop dead the moment they ate? No, physical death didn't come till centuries later. They were put out of the garden. That's what spiritual death is: separation from God. When Paul wrote that we were dead in sins, he meant that we were spiritually separated from God, though very much alive physically. And since people are alive physically, they CAN respond to the Gospel and the convicting power of the Holy Spirit. Another good argument is the account of the "rich young ruler." Was he "chosen," or not? If he were one of the "elect," he would have believed because of "irresistible grace." But since he didn't, does that mean he was not "chosen?" If so, then Jesus didn't really mean it when he invited him to follow Him, He was just playing mind games. This teaching, which besmirches the character of God, will go down in flames at the Judgment.
Wow, that is a great insight about the rich young ruler. I hadn't thought of that. I am going to read that again in Scripture very closely. Thanks! God bless you!
Ooo, I agree,,excellent, both about Adam & Eve & the rich young ruler! I have heard Pastor Robert Morris "suggest" that perhaps the rich young ruler was Joseph of Aramethia - it was just a suggestion - a nice idea, but quite an age difference since Jesus' ministry was 3 1/2 years . . . unless Jesus encountered the rich young ruler when He was 12 while He was amazing the scholars in the temple . . . but then you're right back at grasping things from the scripture that just aren't there.
@@faithonfireministries What is really sad is he makes fun of God wooing people when the Word of God says the kindness of the Lord leads men to repentance
RC Sproul Teaching Calvinism: Weak Arguments and Blasphemy Welcome back, everyone! This is Brian with Faith on Fire, and in today's video, we're going to talk about being dead in sins, being made alive in Christ, and the order of regeneration. We'll also look at a good example in the Bible that describes this transformation from being spiritually dead to being spiritually alive through the process of salvation, regeneration, and being born again-made a new creation in Christ. I've never featured the late R.C. Sproul on the channel before. I think I've mentioned him once or twice in relation to John MacArthur, but never actually featured a video clip from him. So, I'm going to do that today. He's going to tell us what his favorite story in the Bible is to uphold his Calvinistic view. If you're not familiar with R.C. Sproul-and I think a lot of people probably are, but I'll say it anyway-he was a very famous American theologian. He was part of the Presbyterian Church of America (PCA) and started Ligonier Ministries. It's a very popular ministry that provides resources, articles, and holds conferences to uphold Calvinism and defend the faith, particularly the Five Points of Calvinism. We're going to look at a course where he's teaching a class, and we'll just look at a tiny clip of it. You'll see what I'm doing with this when you hear his explanation. Then we'll get into the real story. I'll just tell you now, we're going to take a look at the story he references and see what it really says. You'll see it's quite different from what he portrays it to be. Then we're going to look at a different gospel story to see the real story that best represents being dead in sins and made alive in Christ. You'll see a big, big difference. Here we go. Chapter two of Ephesians: "And you He made alive who were dead in trespasses and sins, in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience, among whom we also once conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the others." Paul is looking back now and he's speaking to his friends and fellow converts among the Ephesian Christians. He reminds them of who it is who raised them from spiritual death. While they were dead in their sins and trespasses, God the Holy Spirit quickened them-raised them from the dead spiritually. Okay, so far, no problem. He's quoted scripture. He's describing what happens: you're dead in sins, you're made alive in Christ. So far, so good. I remind you that dead people don't cooperate. This is where it gets a little wonky. That is true-dead people do not cooperate. My favorite analogy to what Paul is talking about here is the resurrection of Lazarus from the tomb. Lazarus had been dead for four days, and the only power in the universe that could bring that corpse out of that cave was the creative, energizing power of God. Christ didn't invite Lazarus out of the tomb. He didn't wait for Lazarus to cooperate. He said, "Lazarus, come forth," and by the sheer divine power of that imperative, that which was dead became alive. Then, of course, he cooperates after-I mean, he walks out of the tomb-but there was no cooperation at the point of the change of his nature from death to life. In a similar fashion, what we hear Paul saying here is you're in a state of spiritual death. I don't know-Paul is not saying we are dead in a tomb like Lazarus. Let's get that straight. In physical death, you can't do anything. Someone who's alive, whether they're an unbeliever or a believer, still can do things. This is not a good analogy. But anyway, you're by nature children of wrath. According to Jesus, no one can come to the Father unless it is given to him of the Father, and in your flesh you can do nothing. That doesn't mean a little something. Left to yourself, you will never choose the things of God while you're in this state of spiritual death, walking according to the course of this world. Okay, I thought dead people don't do anything. Lazarus was in the tomb; he couldn't do anything. He couldn't be walking around at all. What is he talking about? He couldn't be sinning while he was in the tomb. He wasn't thinking about lustful things when he was in the tomb, physically dead. But there's more to it than that. Let's keep listening. Walking according to the prince of the power of the air, obeying the lusts of your flesh. Was Lazarus obeying the lusts of his flesh for the four days that he was dead in the tomb? I don't think so. Just like everybody else in the world, while you're in that state, God makes you alive. Now, after he makes you alive, do you reach out? Do you stretch? Do you come? Do you believe? Yes, but it's that initial step, that first step. Is it something that God and God alone does, or does God just come right up to you and woo you, entice you, encourage you, whisper into the ears of a deaf man, "Come on"? Oh my, I mean, I was going to just get into the story of Lazarus and show you what the story really means. And I'm going to do that, but I forgot about that part. Think about what he said there. Now, did God do anything to woo you, to entice you, to whisper sweet nothings in your ear? Notice the immaturity of that. I mean, I get this picture of God like he's making fun of it. He's making light, like God doesn't do this stuff. He's not trying to attract you and get your attention so you'll come to faith in Christ. He's making the point that you can't-you're dead in sins. God does it a different way, supernaturally transferring you first out of your unbelief, out of the blue, and you don't even want to believe. He forces you. Irresistible grace-that's the "I" in TULIP, irresistible grace, applied to the elect so they are forced to now believe.
I'm glad we agree about RC Sproul and the dangers of Calvinism. However, you copied into your comment a large portion of the transcript which might cause confusion. Without the video nobody reading this can tell who is speaking, me or RC Sproul. Somebody might read this and think I said something that in reality was part of the transcript because I played the clips of RC Sproul speaking and teaching his nonsense. Just wanted to add that thought. God bless you!
Another good video, Brian :) Calvinism is a variant of Catholicism. John Calvin was taught by Catholics. Calvinism, as in this video, implies that evangelism and witnessing (if not irrelevant at all, as it is with hyper-C's) is simply there as a way of making God speak through the evangelist as if they have become a manifestation of God himsel - like God speaking through the Donkey in Numbers. That is exactly the same as Catholic Priests breathing upon a baby during a Christening and claiming that it is truly God's breath (just like the wafer is Jesus' real body and the wine is Jesus' real blood not a symbolic representative of it). This is not the true message of Christianity. Disciples were there to spread the word to those that needed to hear the Good News - the world - so that of their own volition they could choose to follow Christ and when they did they were saved as new creatures in Christ. But no one was forced to make that choice. God was not wooing anyone either. This does not make God any less sovereign.
@B G You wrote: "Calvinism is a variant of Catholicism. John Calvin was taught by Catholics." But this is patently false. Rather it is the Arminians, the Provisionists, and all the other forms of synergism, who use the Catholic invented 'prevenient grace', or no grace of any kind, as in full or semi-pelagianism, and worship at the idolatrous altar of the Autonomous Will of Man.
@Cathey Lynn D To claim that Reformed Theology is derivative of Catholicism just because Calvin was born and raised in Catholic France is as doltish, uninformed, and stupid as it gets. If you call yourself a Protestant, and are thankful for the gospel of justification by faith, then you are indebted to the Reformers God used to bequeath that gospel to you.
Seems clear to me that the Bible talks about election. Jesus told his own disciples, “Have I not chosen you..” and “there is no one who understands, no one who seeks God”. I believe God has to do a work in a person in order for them to see and start the process of sanctification through the renewing of the mind. But the initial call to life, the wake up call, is initiated by God.
It seems so clear to you that you replaced the clear 2nd half of that verse with a dot dot dot to be deceptive. It never fails, whenever a person defending Calvinistic election quotes Jesus saying "Have I not chosen you..." they always leave off the 2nd half of that verse. That is because Jesus then explains for what purpose they were chosen... to bear fruit that will remain, not for salvation as you would like to claim. Judas was chosen but not saved. And 2000 Years later there are millions of Christians around the world, so I'd say for the Apostles, mission accomplished. For more clarity, read John 6: 70 and you will see a similar verse in which Jesus very clearly says that He has chosen the 12 Apostles and one of them is a Devil. Chosen does not mean for salvation in these instances except through the distorted and wrong lens of Calvinism. Why don't you simply read the Bible for yourself and tell people what it really says rather than purposefully (or ignorantly) try to distort Scripture and deceive people? I can assure you God is not pleased with those who distorts His Word.
@Faith on Fire The elect are those for whom Jesus intercedes. And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose. For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren; and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified. What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who is against us? He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him over for us all, how will He not also with Him freely give us all things? *Who will bring a charge against God’s elect?* God is the one who justifies; who is the one who condemns? *Christ Jesus is He who died, yes, rather who was raised, who is at the right hand of God, who also intercedes for us.* Romans 8:28-34 (NASB1995)
R. C. Sproul, may he enjoy the Lord's presence, was absolutely and without any shadow of doubt right about what the Bible (not Calvin) teaches about God's Sovereignty, predestination, irresistible grace, etc. I also thank God for John Calvin who did not invent the same but only espoused what was clearly taught in the Bible even in Old Testament.
You have to ignore a ton of Scripture and twist all that you do read in order to support what RC Sproul taught on those matters. Repent and read your Bible without the lens of Calvinism on.
I’ll tell you what, not a single non-Calvinist has ever addressed the following questions to me: Was Jesus Christ’s crucifixion predetermined since it was foretold in the bible? Was it at any point that Christ could not have been crucified? Was there at any point that Judas could have changed his mind and not betray Jesus? Was Christ’s crucifixion only foreseen (as if God foresaw in the future what would happen and based on that He made His decision)? If God actually predetermined Christ’s crucifixion what caused the certainty of its outcome? What causes the certainty of any prophecy to come? You most certainly have the answers to these questions. Elucidate it for me since I am looking through the lens of Calvinism. Or, will you avoid like the rest of you on RUclips channels hiding under the false pretense of self-righteousness? @@faithonfireministries
Revelation 13: 8 says the Lamb was slain from the foundation of the world. That means before God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit created the Universe and mankind, they knew that man would fall to sin, and they determined the means of redemption through the Son, Jesus Christ, the Lamb of God. This is necessary to give love freely to mankind and allow man the authority to make a choice to return the love and follow God (OT) and follow Jesus (NT) or reject salvation and by doing so choosing hell. It was not individuals chosen by God predestined to heaven or hell that was determined. It was the method of salvation that was determined, and all determined every spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ that was predestined to be given to each person when they become "in Christ" as stated in Ephesians 1. Ephesians 2: 11-13 which Calvinists never read on to figure out, which states that before anyone is "in Christ" they are "without Christ" first which ruins the whole unconditional election before the foundation of the world false doctrine. You read Ephesians 1: 4 as if it says "chosen TO BE in Him..." but it only says "chosen in Him..." and then gives the "to be" part which is to be blameless and Holy Before God. Nobody is seen that way before God until they come to faith in Christ and become born again, seen in the righteousness of Christ rather than in their sins and worthless filthy rags of self-righteousness.
@faithonfireministries What part of dead in sins and transgressions do you not understand. We were by nature objects of wrath. Jesus said that if you didn't believe in him you were condemned already. The Holy Spirit has to move on a person and open their heart as happened to Lydia in Acts 16:14-15. And faith is a gift of God. Philippians 1:29.
@@mr.jollybear5180Yes Jesus' crucifixion was predetermined. Acts 2:23. And Judas was marked out to betray Jesus. John17:12, and in Acts 1:15-18. I am sorry. I thought u said Calvinist not no- Calvinist
God chose me and I co-operated with His grace. I repented of my sin and put my faith in Jesus. I chose Jesus of my own free will, God didn't force me. God bless
So, man can choose for his salvation and can also reject if he wants to? God has no power to save those He has chosen? All mankind are doomed to death. The wages of sin is death but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus our Lord. God chooses some to be saved to show His grace...but to those who are perished, God is not being unjust, but they received the justice for the penalty of their sins.
Death means separation. When the fruit was consumed in the garden, Adam and Eve died. That day. That 24 hour time period. That Yom. Not that millennium. The experienced separation from God. When Rachel died in Genesis 35:18, her soul was departing the body. Physical death means separation of soul from body, spiritual death means separation from God. Dead to sin (Romans 6: 2) means separation from sin (positionally) and is used as motivation for a practical separation from sin for believers who, being dead to sin, are still able to sin. Arthur Pink is one of my favorite Calvinists because he is willing to "bite the bullet" and own the inescapable conclusions of the system. Were more Calvinists honest like Pink the ideology would have died out long ago IMHO. He chides fellow Calvinists for assigning the spiritually dead as having corpse-like irresponsiveness. Far too many Calvinists, in their zeal to repudiate the freewillism of Arminians, have at the same time repudiated man’s moral agency; anxious to enforce the utter helplessness of fallen men in spiritual matters, they have virtually reduced him to an irresponsible machine. It has not been sufficiently noted that in the very next verse after the statement “who were dead in trespasses and sins,” the apostle added, “Wherein (i.e. that state of spiritual death) ye WALKED (which a corpse in the grave could not!) according to the course of this world, according to the spirit of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience. Among whom also we all had our conversation (“conduct”) in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind” (Ephesians 2:1-3). Also, since Eph 2:1 mentions the verb, "quicken," a word search of that verb in Psalm 119 is revealing: "quicken thou me according to thy word....quicken me according to thy judgments." Would it make sense for the so-called Totally depraved to pray, "quicken me..."? How about, "Quicken me according to the gnostic regenerating spark of the effectual call?"
I makes me so angry just listening. Another great video to expose the ridiculousness and blasphemy of Calvinism. It just shows us that it doesn't matter how naturally intelligent a person may be, once he becomes deluded and deceived they cannot see just how illogical and untenable their teachings are, never mind blasphemous and unbiblical.
Just like any other religious system they will never admit they are biblically wrong. Three year a ago I came out from this kind of church, dead dead church. I was forced to be in that church being the only one in the area being biblically oriented. I m still praying for them that they will allow the Holy Spirit to move and resurrect them. 🙏🙏🙏
I’m so grateful to have come across your RUclips Channel! I’m in the process of seeking a church in the Ocala Florida area😅 And plan to be a part of a church community after many years of being hurt in a way from fellowship. I clearly understand Calvinism now after watching several of your videos! Thank you so much😊
Praise the Lord! Thanks for your kind words. I am in Orlando, so it is very nice to hear from another Floridan so close. I hope you find a great church in Ocala. I once heard someone say something close to this... Religious people can be very cruel, unforgiving and selfish, and nobody knows this better than Jesus Christ because it was religious people that had him crucified. Thankfully Jesus Christ loves us all so much that even while we were sinners He died for us. None of us are worthy but due to his great love for us we are made reconciled to God and justified before God with a new born again life because of the finished work of the cross and resurrection of our Savior whom we believe and trust for our salvation.
Please do NOT base Calvinism off of this man's videos. He slanders and misrepresents us constantly. If you would like to know what a calvinist actually believes or teaches then simply ask. Or you could learn a lot from the videos of the person that this man is trying to attack right now. RC Sproul was a very faithful, kind, and loving Pastor/ Teacher of the Bible and theology for decades. Guys like Brian often try to skew one issue of the Bible and don't look at things from the entire context of the whole Bible. I don't care if you become a calvinist or not, because that is not what saves you. Christ and Christ alone saves you and He is the center of all our doctrines and theology. Blessings to you as you search for a faithful church and I do hope you find one, but please don't take Brian's word alone over other very good Bible teachers... listen to both and then compare them with the scriptures. ❤
@@mikegreene9137 RC ignored the warning of the Holy Spirit when the Lord was trying to warn him Calvinism is bad, I heard his testimony on how he got sucked into Calvinism
Made this comment like 5 times, but i think it kept deleting because i shared my email. lol. hopefully it will stick this time :-0 17:44 "we can turn to the Lord & put our faith in Jesus Christ alone" We can come to our senses & return to the Father like the prodigal son. I am convinced you & I have the same understanding of the need for "repentance" for salvation, but we use different terminology. You say "turn to the Lord" implying a heart that wants to be reconciled to God. Like the Prodigal wanting to return to the Father. This is what I mean by repentance. If the son did not desire to come home, he could never be reconciled to God. & Unless we turn to the Lord, we will remain alienated from Him. So we turn back (repentance towards God) , but then are received ONLY because of our "faith in Christ." I'm convinced we are saying the same thing. I must be very bad at explaining myself. Or maybe it is because much of what I say is polemical against certain errors that it is hard to get my meaning. Either way, I agree with 17:44 completely, & am not saying anything more than that when I say "repent of rebellion & trust in Christ." My email is kpdcjakarta at Google mail if you want to be in more contact send me an email & I'll give youy Whatapp & Signal # so we can talk more. 18:21 'he would have stayed in his rebellion..." So the son turned from rebellion? Interesting 😉 The video I posted today (titled: Is repentance necessary for salvation) was an attempt at clarifying my position for you & others who have had sincere comments below my videos on repentance. But here I could say, I preach the prodigal son with 1 adjustment & one addition. My adjustment is that the road back to the Father was no longer than "coming to his senses". & my addition is that he was only welcomed back because of the blood of Christ. Gbu
I'm sorry you had to go through that. I have it set up so RUclips automatically blocks online links and I guess from your experience I just learned that means they also block email addresses too. I'll shoot you an email soon, probably sometime over the weekend or early next week. Thanks for your added thoughts on repentance above as well. I don't think I saw your latest video you mentioned above that you posted today, but I'll go look for it and watch. God bless you!
“We can turn“. Jeremiah 31:18 I have surely heard Ephraim bemoaning himself thus; Thou hast chastised me, and I was chastised, as a bullock unaccustomed to the yoke: turn thou me, and I shall be turned; for thou art the LORD my God. Jeremiah 31:19 Surely after that I was turned, I repented; and after that I was instructed, I smote upon my thigh: I was ashamed, yea, even confounded, because I did bear the reproach of my youth. What comes out of your mouth is in your heart. When what “you can“ do comes out of your mouth then YOU are in your heart.
Wow. I have never read anything from him and until now, never saw him preach. I don't get why people think he is such a genius. What he is saying sounds very convoluted to me.
The wisdom of God is DELIVERED by God's faithful servants which enables sinners to GET "her", and those that EMBRACE her receive faith in Christ Jesus, and by faith, we receive the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost by which we have access to the Father. Proverbs 2:6 “For the LORD giveth wisdom: out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding.” Proverbs 24:3 “Through wisdom is an house builded; and by understanding it is established:” Proverbs 4 7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore GET wisdom: and with all thy GETTING get understanding. 8 Exalt her, and she shall promote thee: she shall BRING thee to honour, when thou dost EMBRACE her. Ephesians 2:18 “For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.” "She" brings us faith in Him and He baptizes us with His Spirit, and by His Spirit, we have access to the father...Simple!
My brother I have seen churches that have become Calvinistic and basically evangelism seems to stop! They have the attitude it's us four and no more mentality. I'm in so who gives a rip if anybody else is in.Calvinism in so many churches absolutely kills evangelism and it totally breaks my heart and I'm sure the heart of God! Jesus's name priority in coming was to seeks and save that which is lost! If it was his main priority incoming can it be any less ours???
So, verse 26, I'll just throw that in: “And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?” There's a commandment. Jesus said, “Believe this, believe in me.” This is what He's saying. I thought R.C. Sproul said God just makes them believe-irresistible grace forces them to believe. They don't need to come to this belief; they don't need to make a decision; they don't need to be commanded to believe. After all, they can't-they're in total depravity, dead in sins. Dead men don't do anything except walk around after lust and sins and things like that. They can walk around, apparently, according to R.C. Sproul, but if it's anything good, they're dead-they can't do anything. That's what he said. So, Jesus calls Lazarus out of the tomb, makes him alive again, and that's their picture of salvation, their picture of regeneration. That's not a good picture of it. It's totally wrong. This miracle is like other miracles done by Jesus so that people would believe in Jesus and therefore be saved because they believe in the one that has the power to save them. Not that the believing is the power, right? It's God who has the power. Let's not confuse that. Let's jump over to Luke 15. I told you we're going to get to something-this is the Prodigal Son story. We're going to start where Jesus starts this parable in verse 11: "A certain man had two sons." I'm going to go through this kind of quickly because so many people know the story so well, but I'll hit the highlights. The younger son gets the inheritance that he wants in verse 13. Not many days after, the younger son gathered all together, took his journey into a far country, and there wasted his substance-that is, his inheritance-with riotous living. His money's gone, and when he had spent all, there arose a mighty famine in that land, and he began to be in want. He went and joined himself to a citizen of that country, who sent him into his fields to feed swine. Right? He should have gone home already, but instead, when he's in need, he went to the wrong person. He went to a person of that country. It's like the blind leading the blind. He's being taken advantage of now-a Jewish boy in the pigpen. He's looking around and realizes, "These pigs are eating better than I am. I got nothing. I'm in bad shape," right? Verse 17: "When he came to himself, he said, 'How many hired servants of my father's have bread enough and to spare, and I perish with hunger! I will arise and go to my father and will say unto him, Father, I have sinned against heaven and before thee, and am no more worthy to be called thy son. Make me as one of thy hired servants.' And he arose and came to his father. But when he was yet a great way off, his father saw him and had compassion, ran, fell on his neck, and kissed him." The son said to him, "Father, I have sinned against heaven and in thy sight, and am no more worthy to be called thy son." But the father said to his servants, "Bring forth the best robe and put it on him, and put a ring on his hand and shoes on his feet, and bring hither the fatted calf and kill it, and let us eat and be merry. For this my son was dead and is alive again; he was lost and is found." And they began to be merry. All right, so, by the way, he says it one more time when he goes out to the not-so-happy older son in the field. The older son was angry and would not go in. Therefore, his father came out and said in verse 32: "It was meet that we should make merry and be glad. For this thy brother was dead and is alive again, and was lost and is found." Once again, you have this dead made alive and so forth. There's the picture of that. This story makes no sense when you look at the Calvinist doctrines of grace and their picture of regeneration-of faith being that faith comes after regeneration as opposed to faith coming first. Now, this person, by faith, knew, "If I go back to the father, I can at least be a hired hand." He wasn't even looking to be fully restored and redeemed. But thank God, praise the Lord, when we are sinners in rebellion, we can turn to the Lord, put our faith and trust in Jesus Christ alone, and we become fully redeemed, restored, and adopted into God's family. It is amazing, and that's the picture of God the Father doing that for this son. Notice the father, unlike the Calvinist description of how this should work. The father should have gone to the other country because the son, in a state of deadness-remember, he's dead, made alive-had no ability to come to his senses and return home. He would have stayed there, as bad as it got. He would have continued in his rebellion because he's a totally depraved person who has no ability to respond positively to the father, to God, to the gospel, whatever. This, you know, the analogy. So, the father, in this case, to be Calvinistic, should have gone to the other country, grabbed that son right out of the pigpen as he's struggling, saying, "No, no, no, not me. I'm in rebellion," and he should have cleaned him off anyway: "No, no, no, you're being irresistible grace. You're being forced to be cleaned up here. I'm going to restore you. I'm going to redeem you," as this person is saying, "No, I don't want that. I'm happy here in the pigpen. I don't want to go home to the father." The father drags him all the way home, puts that robe on him, puts the ring on, and says, "We're gonna have a fatted calf." Upon full completion of this restoration of the son, only then does the son realize, "Oh yeah, this is where I want to be. Thank you. Ah, I'm so grateful. My gratitude is overflowing by the fact that when I was in my rebellion, you ripped me clean out of that. I give you all the glory for having done that because I never could have come to my senses on my own and realized that at least I can walk-I can at least turn back to the father." And the Father, who is gracious and merciful, will redeem us through the Son, Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior, who loves us so much.
Question: can God learn? No, the answer is, no, God cannot learn. Therefore, God knows who will go to heaven and who will go to hell. If God is all powerful, and he knows who will end up in hell, and yet he creates them and allows them to live their life anyway. When Adam was told that he would die if he took of the fruit and ate it, did he die? Yes and no. He did not die physically and therefore he must have died spiritually. And therefore, all of his descendants were born dead in their trespasses and sins. Dead people can’t do anything good, they can do other things, bad things. But they can’t do any good things. This is clearly taught by the Scriptures.
Scott, God cannot learn because he is omniscient and above time. All-powerful means he is sovereign and declares the end from the beginning. It means he can do as he pleases. That's all. Where the Calvinist goes wrong is conflating 'knowing' and 'causing'. They are two separate things. Just because God knows everything (omniscient) and will bring about his purposes (omnipotent) in the end, does not mean he has to cause every detail and action. It's a non-sequitur. Spiritual 'dead' in the Bible does NOT mean you can only do bad things but not good things. Spiritually dead people do many good things, including thinking and responding. The Prodigal Son did a series of bad things. Then he thought about his situation and changed his mind! That's biblical repentance - metanoia. Notice, in his still spiritually 'dead' state, he did a GOOD THING, voluntarily humbled himself, and returned home. This very good and wise action did not save him though, not even a tiny little bit. His Father saved him 100%. For example, he could have had him stoned to death. He could have made him a slave for the rest of his life. But in his overwhelming unmerited grace he granted him a full sonship. Then he declared his son was dead but NOW he was alive. He was lost but NOW he was found. Lost and dead does not mean you cannot think and make decisions regarding God. The bible is a revelation from God, he loved us and died for us while we were still sinners and his enemies. (That's of course everybody, right?) He loved humanity first. We were called to respond to God's means- his Son, the cross, Spirit inspired Scriptures, apostles, preachers sent....respond in conviction, humble ourselves, and believe. That is all we can do. Faith is not work. Question for you: If I cannot SAVE myself, does that equally mean that I cannot RESPOND IN FAITH and confess that I am a sinner in need of a Saviour? Question 2: Since Calvinists believe the Holy Spirit must 'regenerate' you and 'give you faith' before you can believe, how come God 'forgot' to have the most important character in the Prodigal Son representing the Holy Spirit dragging him home against his will? I would imagine it would be powerful messengers with ropes, or a town police with handcuffs?
It's so ridiculous, the whole doctrinal system of Calvinism. But what's really offensive in this thing, before I get on with the teaching, is that "for God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth on Him shall not perish but have everlasting life." Think about that. How much did God love us? The Bible talks about an agape love. It means beyond our comprehension-this kind of love for His creation. Jesus Christ, the Eternal God, co-equal part of the Godhead, leaves His place in heaven to come down and become one of us, His own creation. I mean, you know the story. God, He lived and showed us without sin, with mercy and kindness, healing everyone and helping everybody, and still being rejected by so many who would not believe. They believed later, right? But anyway, He was rejected by His own kind. And ultimately, we know the story-He freely gave Himself upon the cross as a substitutionary sacrifice for all of our sins. Even in the midst of the humiliation, having been whipped and crowned with thorns, nailed hands and feet to the cross, humiliated in front of people, He says, "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do." What kind of love is that? And he belittles it to wooing and enticing. The gospel story, the power of God, the gospel is the power of God unto salvation, and he's belittling that to something you would equate to like a teenage crush, you know, whispering in the ear, wooing like some kind of puppy love thing going on. That's silly and immature. That's what he thinks of the extent of love that was displayed by our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ on the cross for us. I mean, I am just amazed at that. I almost have to listen to that again. “And just, I mean, and say, come on, God just comes right up to you and woos you, entices you, encourages you, whispers into the ears of a deaf man.” Come on, really? What more could God do but to send His only Son, Jesus Christ, into the world to die for us? There's no greater love than that, the Bible says. And he talks about it as if believing in that on your own is some kind of fake faith, not generated by God. They say faith has to be a gift given to you by God because they don't know how to read Ephesians 2. We are saved by grace through faith, not of yourselves-it's a gift of God. The gift! Hello! He talks about this later in a video, I remember this. Boy, he says the gift is faith. No, the gift is grace, right? Look in the Bible and try to find a place where the gift of God is faith-it's not there. They twist that one verse because it so clearly matches what's elsewhere in the Bible: the gift of God is grace, which is eternal life. It says that elsewhere, that grace is the gift. It's the free gift through belief in Jesus. Anyway, all right, I get angry when I hear people who belittle and diminish our Lord Jesus Christ, and nobody does it better than Calvinists. I mean, within the Christian circles anyway, nobody does it better to diminish who Jesus was, who He is, who He came to save, and the gospel, than Calvinists. They're the best at diminishing it-it's horrific. Outside of that, you pretty much have to get into atheistic circles to find people more offensive. So, anyway, let me jump over to what he said. The best example of being dead in sins made alive in Christ is Lazarus. Let's go take a look at that story. Let me tee that up here. All right, starting at the top, I'm just gonna hit the main points. “Now a certain man was sick named Lazarus of Bethany, the town of Mary and her sister Martha.” Who remembers Mary and Martha? Jesus was there teaching, Mary was sitting at His feet, Martha was complaining that Mary should be helping her around the house, and Jesus said, “No, no, she has chosen the best part, it won't be taken from her.” So, anyway, we all know the story. Well, that's Lazarus-he's part of this. These are all people who know each other. It says here in verse 5, “Now Jesus loved Martha and her sister and Lazarus.” This isn't like “for God so loved the world” kind of love. This is just His friend, just like Mary. He loved them through a personal relationship, being in close proximity. We're not talking about God's love from above down on all people equally-we're talking about a personal relationship. Unfortunately, Lazarus is sick, and Jesus doesn't go to them right away. He tells the disciples that He's with before He goes to the town, “Our friend Lazarus sleepeth.” They didn't get the message, so He clarifies it here in verse 14, “Then said Jesus unto them plainly, Lazarus is dead.” Look at verse 15: “And I am glad for your sake that I was not there.” What a wild statement to say, right? For someone who's His friend, whom He loves. But listen, there's a purpose behind this: “to the intent that you may believe.” Nevertheless, let us go unto him. Jesus Himself-not just the Gospel of John at the end-clarifies that the things Jesus did that are miraculous are written in the end of chapter 20 and the final chapter 21 of the Gospel of John. At the very end, in both chapters, it ends by saying there are so many signs, wonders, and miracles that Jesus did in the presence of the disciples. It says at the end of chapter 20 that what's written in this book, this Gospel of John, is written so that you might believe and have life in His name. And Jesus here Himself is telling the disciples that He's going there, right? It's good, oddly enough, as strange as it sounds, that Lazarus is dead, because something's about to happen so that people would believe in Him. Not so He can treat them like He treats a physically dead person like Lazarus when He gets there and bring them all back to life regardless of their input, ideas, or thoughts, but He's doing this so that they would witness and believe. It's incredible.
Thank you Brian for these videos. I was in 2 reformed churches for about 34 years. I never understood why I saw the Bible so differently until a few years ago when the pastor preached on Romans 9-11. Calvinism was rarely highlighted but when he said if you don’t believe in predestination you might what to consider whether you are saved or not I was taken back. This set me on a multi month study to understand predestination and the Calvinists view of the sovereignty of God. I began to see how Calvinism ends up being a lens through which every part of Scripture is interpreted and understood. It was so freeing to finally see where the disconnect was and that I wasn’t crazy, like I had often felt. I wish the various pastors I had been under all those years would have just been up front with what they believed. I am now in a non denominational, spirit filled church and it feels like coming home.
@Monika Hyvnarova The Ordo Salutis is a logical progression, not a temporal progression. You need regeneration in order to do anything pleasing to God, i.e. repent and believe. *Edited and reposted
I am a Calvinist. No one should have ever questioned your salvation. You can be wrong on this and still be elect :). I have preached more than once that believing in the doctrine of Election does not mean that one is "elect." One must make their "calling and election sure."
@@paulpowell6418 apparently not. If regeneration precedes faith then it is an act of God, not man. I think he is confused on what Calvinism actually teaches. Sadly, I doubt he has read Calvin's Institutes.
Great message. I fail too understand why people accept the analogy where an apple, a physically dead petson, is being compared to an orange, a spiritually dead person🤪.
Personally I,do not believe faith is a gift. If it was, then it would be GOD,s faith not mine. Because of his faith, Abraham was counted as righteous. Love your videos, Brian.
I have no problem with "wooing" language. God's history with humanity is full of wooing. What's ironic is that Sproul didn't believe in divine persuasion... ie "wooing", but irresistible grace, ie: compulsion.
I think if Jesus taught Calvinism, the Bible would've displayed it without any ambiguity; "The sun beat down mercilessly on the dusty road leading to Capernaum. The disciples, weary from their journey, trudged behind Jesus, a disquiet settling upon them. He had spoken vaguely for days, pronouncements riddled with riddles about a narrow gate and a coming tribulation. They reached a grove of olive trees, their meager shade a welcome respite. Peter, ever the impulsive one, finally broke the silence. "Master," he began, voice laced with concern, "you speak of a narrow gate, a path few will tread. But where does it lead? What awaits us at the end?" Jesus turned, his gaze distant. "The Father," he said, his voice flat, "has woven the tapestry of fate. Each thread, each life, each choice, each thought, predetermined in His grand design. Some are chosen to walk the straight path, others… well, their course is already set for the Lake of Fire, according to His Sovereign Will, by which no one can twart." A tremor of fear ran through the disciples. John, the youngest, piped up, "But Master, what of our choices? Do we have no free will?" A humorless smile flickered across Jesus' face. "Free will? A comforting idol & illusion, John. We dance to the tune the Father's plays. Some are destined for the light, others for the abyss for the good pleasure of His will to glorify Himself. It is not for us to question." Matthew, the tax collector turned disciple, sputtered in protest. "But Master, you've spoken of changing hearts, of redemption! If all is predetermined, what is the point of our endeavors?" Jesus' smile widened, this time devoid of warmth. "The point, dear Matthew, these are MEANS, you play your part, according to His immutable decree. The Father finds amusement in our struggles, a cosmic theatre where He observes the dance of the predestined, for His glory." A cold dread gripped the disciples. Peter, his face pale, found his voice. "Master, if all of our choices are predetermined by God & our future is sealed… then… then what hope do we have?" Jesus' laughter echoed through the grove, a chilling sound devoid of joy. "Hope? A fleeting comfort, Peter. A trinket for the simpleminded. The tapestry is already woven. Your only choice is to accept your place in His glorious, grand design." The disciples huddled together, their faces reflecting a crushing despair. The hope that had fueled their journey, the dream of a new kingdom, seemed to evaporate in the harsh desert wind. Jesus watched them, a dark amusement dancing in his eyes. As the sun dipped below the horizon, casting long shadows, Jesus turned. "Come," he said, his voice cold. "We must continue. The Father's sovereign will & cosmic play never ends." He walked on, leaving the disciples behind, their hope stolen, replaced by a suffocating sense of predestination. The narrow path they once envisioned with excitement now stretched before them, a bleak and desolate road." In Calvinism, nothing happens other than what God decrees. The number of those to be saved, & to be damned is fixed.
Saying a rejection of total depravity is the biggest threat to Christianity may be the most self-refuting statement I’ve ever heard… it’s essentially saying “If only people would accept that they can’t possibly believe the gospel unless God unconditionally and irresistibly forces them to, then…” then what? Then they’d believe the gospel? Then Christianity would grow? Think about that for a minute. If they only accepted that they can’t believe, then they’d believe. What? That’s the problem with Calvinism. They blame it all on God. If Calvinism were true (it’s not), then the only reason they reject the gospel is because God made them that way and therefore God himself would be the biggest threat to Christianity. For the life of me, I don’t understand why intelligent men like John Macarthur and RC Sproul unplug their brains and throw them out the window when it comes to Calvinism.
I have friends who only believe what Sproul says. If he doesn’t endorse it, they won’t even listen to it. Bizarre. Personally I’ve never found Sproul appealing.
If I was not dead, I mean spiritually dead, I mean dead in my trespasses and sins, and then I was given “Grace“ and I then did something that ended up causing me to be saved, then congratulations to me. Even if it’s only 1% then I should be congratulated because I contributed 1% toward my salvation. So, therefore it’s not “all” glory to God, it’s most of the glory to God and some of the glory to me.
You ‘were’ spiritually dead, but you still have a soul and body. The soul consists of the mind, will and emotions. The ‘dead’ make choices every day. Believing is an act of the will and we all have the capacity to believe. God gives all a measure a faith and has revealed Himself through creation (Rom 1) and our conscience (Rom 2). We suppress the truth and prefer darkness, rather than coming to the light. That’s what the Bible teaches. Exercised faith comes before regeneration. Calvinism is as dead as Lazarus.
It's important to remember that when Calvinists point to Eph 2:8 and say faith is a gift, what they MEAN is the _volitional act of trusting in Christ for salvation is a gift._ Everyone agrees that the ability to have faith in anything at all is a gift. Everyone believes that the opportunity to have faith in Christ is a gift and so [faith in Christ] in that sense is a gift. Everyone knows scripture talks about faith as a Spiritual gift given in various measures _to believers._
LOL, No prosperity gospel or Joel Osteen crowd here! But I certainly get plenty of heretic Calvinist cult members getting offended by the truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ who love to comment on each video.
Loved your video. Thanks for show us the truth of the word. I love that you keep the video talk simple. Here a question I love to see Calvinist answer. How does Calvinist explain the story of Saul/Paul.
@Douglas Dennis Perhaps you may explain why you think Paul's conversion presents any problem to Reformed Theology. The only difference between Paul's conversion and anyone else's, is that Paul had already been chosen to be the Apostle to the Gentiles, whereas others were given no such specific commission.
@4theLAMBS There is no theological system mentioned in the Bible, so your remark about Reformed Theology applies to all forms of systematic theology. I read and study the Bible every day, because by doing so I grow in knowing the Father and the Son, I progress in sanctification, and am by this means, thanks to the grace and power of the Holy Spirit, more and more delivered from the power of sin.
Good question! One Calvinist (Redmane) has answered your question with a question and no answer at all. You won't find a Calvinist actually answers this while telling the truth in accordance with Scripture because Paul got saved consistent with how he explained it in Romans 10. A preacher must be sent by God to tell the Gospel to unbelievers. That is the essence and clear message of what Paul wrote in Romans 10. Ananias was sent by God to minister to Paul days after the road to Damascus in which Paul encountered Jesus and was blinded. The story is told 3 different times in Acts. One account makes it clear that Paul was converted when Ananias ministered to him and then the scales fell off his eyes, and Paul could see again and he was converted at that time, not before on the road to Damascus. I think some Calvinists would like us to believe that Jesus chose Saul/Paul for salvation but the proof in Scripture is that Paul was chosen for a purpose, to be an Apostle to the Gentiles. Paul was not saved on the road to Damascus but nothing is impossible with God and Jesus is God so why should it be so shocking that Jesus intercepted Saul the Pharisee on that road? Was it for salvation only or for that bigger purpose that builds God's Kingdom among Gentiles? It is a simple question with a clear answer Scripture gives us. Here is another simple question I have... how many Christians do you know that got saved like Paul if he was saved on the road to Damascus? Answer... Nobody! I know nobody with a similar story and I know lots of born again Christians. This story is unique and wonderful but in no way are we to preach that this is how God saves people. Now, how many people do you know that heard a minister of God preach the Gospel to them and they believed it, and the grace of God was given to them and suddenly they were transformed, and though they were blinded by the sins in their life, suddenly they could see clearly those sins and they repented and lifted up praise and glory to our Lord Jesus Christ for having saved them from their sins and the wages of sin which is death and hell? Yep, I know lots of Christians like that... yep, everyone of them in fact.
@Faith on Fire Let's not forget that Paul was very consistent, and wrote much in Romans about election/predestination, and the inability of unregenerate men to do things pleasing to God (Romans 8:6-8). I'm not going to argue against your interpretation regarding Paul's conversion, that's the way you like it, you're welcome to it. I will just note that Paul was entirely obedient to Christ after encountering Him on the road, and such obedience *is* pleasing to God. But when God, who had set me apart even from my mother’s womb and called me through His grace, was pleased to reveal His Son in me so that I might preach Him among the Gentiles, I did not immediately consult with flesh and blood, nor did I go up to Jerusalem to those who were apostles before me; but I went away to Arabia, and returned once more to Damascus. Galatians 1:15-17 (NASB1995 )
My Dear when I heard his story about his dog he had for many years that my question was if this man had the holy spirit than he would know what to do. I knew that if I was in his shoes I would handle it better.
Definitely! We don't want to do as the Corinthian church was doing by saying, "I follow Paul" or "I follow Apollos." Of course, Calvinists are not claiming to follow John Calvin by merely using the nickname "Calvinism." Calvinism simply means the set of doctrines expressed in the Canons of Dort. We can search the Scriptures and see if those doctrines are supported by Scripture or not. But it should be stated plainly: Calvinism does not mean "follower of John Calvin."
@@laserfalcon John 15:16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.
@@aletheia8054 So you take a self centered view of this verse and think the ye refers to you ? You think chosen means God chose to save you personally? What did God choose these for ? Its not salvation. To whom was Jesus speaking to? The disciples was he not and yet one (Judas) was a devil. Clearly not chosen for salvation. Jesus isn't speaking to you or me in 2024. Jesus in context is speaking to the disciples clearly. Don't be deceived by Calvinist false teaching.
Hey brother i would just respectfully point out that sounds to me like your making category errors, misrepresenting the arguments and positions that are being presented. I would analyze that a little more. God bless!
Great video brother, calvinism is a big fat lie! However, I would disagree with your interpretation of the parable of the two sons. I believe the son was already saved (as he is the son of his father from the very beginning), and that this is a parable about fellowship with God. If we backslide into sin, we squander our eternal rewards (inheritance) in this life, which is what the son did. And if we go off into sin, we do not break our sonship to our father, but we do fall out of fellowship. When the son comes to his senses and returns (confessing his sin, see 1 John), fellowship with his father is immediately restored. Any thoughts?
You make great points and that very well may be the right interpretation. What makes me believe this is a story of a son who was never saved before returning home was that the Father said twice that his son was lost but now found, dead but is alive again. It seems to be talking about being spiritually lost and dead in sins and then being made alive in Christ when he came home. We are all born into the world once, dead in sins and lost, and some of us later become born again and saved. The son was not portrayed in the beginning of the story as being a perfect son or the picture of a true believer, but then slipped wanting to go off into the world backsliding. It begins with him asking for his inheritance and he goes off with no apparent sense that what he was doing was so sinful or destructive. That is the picture of someone lost, not backsliding. You could definitely be right about the inheritance being eternal rewards in heaven, but then why did the Father restore him and bestow rewards upon the son (robe, ring, fatted calf and a party). I think the inheritance is about the good things God gives us just because we are alive on this planet, and so many often begin to squander God's gifts, blessings and our prosperity on things of this world that please the flesh. That view drastically changes when we are born again and desire to use our life and our blessings and even our struggles to somehow exalt Jesus Christ and glorify Him.
@Faith On Fire I definitely see your side here, and there is application to what you are saying, however, I don't think that it quite fits the main intent of the parable for a few reasons. When the son returned, he did not regain his inheritance, remember at the end, when the older son is upset, the father tells the older son that all he (the father) has is his (the older sons). This relates back to the story of Esau and how he squandered his inheritance and could not regain it, though he sought it with tears. What the prodigal son does get is restored fellowship and a party. Secondly, when you are out of fellowship with someone, to you, they are dead and lost. I have five brothers, and the oldest is the one that abandoned us. We have been out of fellowship With him for many years, so to our family it is as though he is dead and lost. We never see him, nor hear from him. But I know for a fact that all my brothers and my parents long for him to return, and we would gladly restore fellowship if he ever chose to return. And I can tell you this, my parents are happy to see all of us, but there would be a great day of rejoicing if my oldest brother came back (more joy over one sinner that repents). Lastly, I would say that interpreting this parable as one about salvation has the potential of introducing "repenting of sins" as part of the Gospel. But we don't receive eternal life because we repent of our sins, we recieve eternal life by belief in Christ (i.e., recieve sonship by virtue of the new birth). Repenting of sins is an ongoing, lifelong endeavor. Hope that helps. Again, thanks for the video and all your videos, I have been enjoying them 👍.
Hmmm. You make a very compelling case for your point of view. I think you are right. I can't argue with that reasoning. Thanks for sharing. Iron sharpens iron. God bless you!
I’m quite familiar with his sermons, as are many other people who rightfully recognized that he was a false teacher. The Bible often warns us of men like him who crept in and taught damnable heresies.
It does seem to be a red flag whenever somebody belittles something to make their point. When I see that, I often begin to think a man might have a bias, or at least he despises something and begins to make some fun of it, and I can understand people doing that sometimes when they see something evil, but not all things are evil, are they? I'm @ 8:14 in here. It's good that we practice discernment. I was just reading from Job where Elihu talks about what would happen if God were to gather unto him his Spirit and his breath, all flesh would perish, and I thought about animal life too. Even though I don't remember reading anywhere that God "breathed into animals the breath of life", they do have a life very much like, and yet a bit different than man has life. Every animal has it's own personality. Pet owners know this. If you get a cat or dog, you never know what you are going to get, but even as they are so similar to people in many regards, animal life also has some differences. It's not all the same as man's life. Then I begin to think about the matter of a soul, the soul of man. I'm not sure, but I think that could also be referred to as the spirit of a man. If not the same, it's very close in relation seems to me. I've often thought about how men often value truth and hunger for it. People often esteem truth as being valuable, and it is. God is able to communicate with men by his Spirit, which is so close to their mind or soul at times. I've heard it said that the soul of man is like a bridge to the Spirit of God, or the things of God that can come to us by his Spirit. Words can convey ideas that seem to have real substance, when that substance is truth. Truth seems to have real substance, though it is in the realm of the Spirit, seems to me. We might at times say "There is nothing to what this man says." or "There is little to what this man says." or "There is so much in what this man says." and I believe it's dependent on the truth he speaks and our ability to recognize it and value it, to purchase it in our hearts as a thing of value, sometimes of great value, and by this means we may access something of the kingdom of God.
Actually being dead in sin means that you are unable to come to God. Repent of this. Im not saying non calvinists are lost, but it is a serious error look!!! look up voddie bacham Gospel in 4 minutes on youtube. its an amazing presentation of the Gospel. repent and trust alone in Jesus Christ to be saved!!!
You got it all wrong because you trusted what you heard from some unregenerate religious elitists rather than reading the Bible for yourself. Your advice at the end is great but your comment proves to me you never did that. You trust in men and their stupid man-made Calvinism doctrines and you are willing to defend it despite the Scriptures and your own advice to trust in Jesus Christ. Wake up and do that and if you ever do, you will certainly be led by the Holy Spirit to walk away from Voddie Bacham and the rest of the promoters of that false gospel of election and those who have a devilish adherence to that fake religious movement, Calvinism.
I believe that Rom. 2:4 tells us that “the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance.”. Then also Jn. 6:4 Jesus said “No man can come to me, except the father which hath sent me draw him…”. In both of these verses it seems very clear that God is not commanding someone to get saved, but rather He is wooing them to come to Him. Then it is man’s choice as to what the will do.
Actually being dead in sin means you are unable to grab the things of God!!! look up voddie bacham Gospel in 4 minutes on youtube. its an amazing presentation of the Gospel. repent and trust alone in Jesus Christ to be saved!!!
@@jarbinks5 What if God has Sovereignly and Unchangeably decreed, from before the foundation of the world, that I would never become a Calvinist? You see, the problem with the Reformed understanding of repentance is that God Ordains all things which come to pass (a non-biblical view of Sovereignty). If God did not ordain for me to repent, I cannot repent any more than a dead man can pick himself up. What am I supposed to do if God eternally and unchangeably ordained for me not to be a Calvinist? Even better, what if I told you that I'm about 100% certain that He did?
So glad for yours and other channels challenging this which really is another gospel. When I was a new believer mid -80's I was open minded to learning about the LORD and His ways, but oy vey! So many conflicting voices! At Calvary Chapel I received a foundation in the Word of God, but TBN was new to television and the prosperity gospel preachers sure vexed my spirit, meanwhile I'd hear RC Sproul on the radio and the things he taught burdened and confused me.
Brian, I used to watch RC Sproul on the John Ankerberg show in the early 80s. I realize now - many years later - that he is a "Calvinist Theologian" (a misnomer), but I wonder also if Ankerberg is Calvinist. It's amazing how they use every passage in the scriptures possible, to tout their false doctrines, to include the death and raising from the dead of Lazarus by Jesus, that Sproul believed lent toward Calvinism. I definitely enjoyed your corrective teaching vid! 👍✝
Much appreciated James! Thanks for sharing. By the way, I have been watching and liking all your videos so thanks for keeping up with new content so often. I look forward to each new video you put out. I wish I could find more time to make more videos because I have a long list of topics I'd like to cover, just not enough free time to record them. By the way, I don't know when I would do this but if in the future at some point I were to mention some channels I like and can recommend to people, would you be okay if I mentioned your channel? I'm assuming so, but I wanted to ask first just to be sure.
@@faithonfireministries Yes Brian, I would of course appreciate a mention of my channel by you. I have mentioned yours a few times over the about 135 videos of mine and I will do so more as I go along. I will also link to you in my vid descriptions at times. Thanks much brother! ✝
In mocking tone Sproul asks, around the 5:25 mark, "Does God just come right up to you and woo you, c'mon, entice you, encourage you, whispers into the ears of a deaf man, come on..." One gets the impression from Calvnists that "pleading with sinners" is beneath their all-powerful, omnipotent, self-glorifying, but not quite all-loving, caricature of deity. Verses from Jeremiah 2 are shared, "Wherefore I will yet PLEAD with you, saith the LORD, and with your children's children will I PLEAD." "Yet thou sayest, Because I am innocent, surely his anger shall turn from me. Behold, I will PLEAD with thee, because thou sayest, I have not sinned." Also consider the NT passage with an offer of mercy that apparently can be resisted: "All day long I have stretched forth my hands unto a disobedient and gainsaying people."
Jeremiah 19:9 And I will cause them to eat the flesh of their sons and the flesh of their daughters, and they shall eat every one the flesh of his friend in the siege and straitness, wherewith their enemies, and they that seek their lives, shall straiten them.
@William Marinelli So that you may learn to cease excising verses from their context, and twisting them like pretzels to suit yourself, here is the entire 2nd chapter of Jeremiah which in its plain reading will utterly refute your eisegesis. Moreover the word of the Lord came to me, saying, “Go and cry in the hearing of Jerusalem, saying, ‘Thus says the Lord: “I remember you, The kindness of your youth, The love of your betrothal, When you went after Me in the wilderness, In a land not sown. Israel was holiness to the Lord, The firstfruits of His increase. All that devour him will offend; Disaster will come upon them,” says the Lord.’ ” Hear the word of the Lord, O house of Jacob and all the families of the house of Israel. Thus says the Lord: “What injustice have your fathers found in Me, That they have gone far from Me, Have followed idols, And have become idolaters? Neither did they say, ‘Where is the Lord, Who brought us up out of the land of Egypt, Who led us through the wilderness, Through a land of deserts and pits, Through a land of drought and the shadow of death, Through a land that no one crossed And where no one dwelt?’ I brought you into a bountiful country, To eat its fruit and its goodness. But when you entered, you defiled My land And made My heritage an abomination. The priests did not say, ‘Where is the Lord?’ And those who handle the law did not know Me; The rulers also transgressed against Me; The prophets prophesied by Baal, And walked after things that do not profit. “Therefore I will yet bring charges against you,” says the Lord, “And against your children’s children I will bring charges. For pass beyond the coasts of Cyprus and see, Send to Kedar and consider diligently, And see if there has been such a thing. Has a nation changed its gods, Which are not gods? But My people have changed their Glory For what does not profit. Be astonished, O heavens, at this, And be horribly afraid; Be very desolate,” says the Lord. “For My people have committed two evils: They have forsaken Me, the fountain of living waters, And hewn themselves cisterns-broken cisterns that can hold no water. “Is Israel a servant? Is he a homeborn slave? Why is he plundered? The young lions roared at him, and growled; They made his land waste; His cities are burned, without inhabitant. Also the people of Noph and Tahpanhes Have broken the crown of your head. Have you not brought this on yourself, In that you have forsaken the Lord your God When He led you in the way? And now why take the road to Egypt, To drink the waters of Sihor? Or why take the road to Assyria, To drink the waters of the River? Your own wickedness will correct you, And your backslidings will rebuke you. Know therefore and see that it is an evil and bitter thing That you have forsaken the Lord your God, And the fear of Me is not in you,” Says the Lord God of hosts. “For of old I have broken your yoke and burst your bonds; And you said, ‘I will not transgress,’ When on every high hill and under every green tree You lay down, playing the harlot. Yet I had planted you a noble vine, a seed of highest quality. How then have you turned before Me Into the degenerate plant of an alien vine? For though you wash yourself with lye, and use much soap, Yet your iniquity is marked before Me,” says the Lord God. “How can you say, ‘I am not polluted, I have not gone after the Baals’? See your way in the valley; Know what you have done: You are a swift dromedary breaking loose in her ways, A wild donkey used to the wilderness, That sniffs at the wind in her desire; In her time of mating, who can turn her away? All those who seek her will not weary themselves; In her month they will find her. Withhold your foot from being unshod, and your throat from thirst. But you said, ‘There is no hope. No! For I have loved aliens, and after them I will go.’ “As the thief is ashamed when he is found out, So is the house of Israel ashamed; They and their kings and their princes, and their priests and their prophets, Saying to a tree, ‘You are my father,’ And to a stone, ‘You gave birth to me.’ For they have turned their back to Me, and not their face. But in the time of their trouble They will say, ‘Arise and save us.’ But where are your gods that you have made for yourselves? Let them arise, If they can save you in the time of your trouble; For according to the number of your cities Are your gods, O Judah. “Why will you plead with Me? You all have transgressed against Me,” says the Lord. “In vain I have chastened your children; They received no correction. Your sword has devoured your prophets Like a destroying lion. “O generation, see the word of the Lord! Have I been a wilderness to Israel, Or a land of darkness? Why do My people say, ‘We are Lords; We will come no more to You’? Can a virgin forget her ornaments, Or a bride her attire? Yet My people have forgotten Me days without number. “Why do you beautify your way to seek love? Therefore you have also taught The wicked women your ways. Also on your skirts is found The blood of the lives of the poor innocents. I have not found it by secret search, But plainly on all these things. Yet you say, ‘Because I am innocent, Surely His anger shall turn from me.’ Behold, I will plead My case against you, Because you say, ‘I have not sinned.’ Why do you gad about so much to change your way? Also you shall be ashamed of Egypt as you were ashamed of Assyria. Indeed you will go forth from him With your hands on your head; For the Lord has rejected your trusted allies, And you will not prosper by them. Jeremiah 2:1-37 (NKJV )
@@redmane_0725 I'll bite. If you wish to share what the verb "plead" communicates in these two verses, please feel free: ""Wherefore I will yet PLEAD with you, saith the LORD, and with your children's children will I PLEAD." "Yet thou sayest, Because I am innocent, surely his anger shall turn from me. Behold, I will PLEAD with thee, because thou sayest, I have not sinned."" Use the immediate context, or the entire book of the prophet, if you like. I'm in listen mode. If you make a good point, I'll give credit out loud. If it's pieno di sterco, I'll say nothing, smile, take my seat, fasten my seatbelt and watch the movie.
Impressive videocast. Christians get led astray because they don't understand, that the biblical truths they hear when a Calvinist teaches, are the times they're lying to you, and not sharing what they actually believe.
Neither has John MacArthur and Justin Peters. For that matter, I don't know any well known Calvinist who has debated anyone with an opposing view except James White and Jeff Durbin.
You keep saying we learned from John and other calvinist. I learned from the scriptures you read . I've been saved over 75 yrs. I was saved very young simply because God chose me in pure grace and mercy. I'm safe in HIS love and looking for the rapture
The problem with Calvinism is that the prevenient grace that brings us to conviction is the Gospel and the Holy Spirit’s work to convict the person of his lostness without Christ. Grace could be resisted by our own will. Many people that are convicted resist God’s grace.
@Aletheia The term prevenient comes from a Latin word that meant ”to come before, to anticipate." However, when the phrase “prevenient grace” is used in theological discussions, it is used in a specific way. In the context of the on-going Calvinism vs. Arminianism debate, prevenient grace is referred to in order to object to the Calvinist doctrine of irresistible grace. This is the reason why, in both modern and historic times, it has also been called “resistible grace” or “pre-regenerating grace.” Since denying the necessity of God’s grace prior to a sinner’s conversion is clearly against biblical teaching, the non-Calvinist theological systems have to affirm a doctrine of grace that precedes a person’s exercising of saving faith. Since non-Calvinists do not believe the saving grace of God always results in the sinner coming to Christ, Christians down through the ages have referred to a type of grace they call prevenient. Simply put, prevenient grace is the grace of God given to individuals that releases them from their bondage to sin and enables them to come to Christ in faith but does not guarantee that the sinner will actually do so. Thus, the efficacy of the enabling grace of God is determined not by God but by man. *Edited and reposted
Calvanists want an outward circumcision like in the Old Testament, they want to see it with works, but God sees the heart, they want to be the judge over who God would save.
Ephesians 2:1-10 As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins, in which you used to live when you followed the ways of this world and of the ruler of the kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient. You quote contradicts scripture.
@tonygardiner5585 Dead people can not do anything good or bad. This shows the foolishness of the calvanistic corpse model in light of the biblical model. Total inability is a lie. Luke 15:24 KJV [24] for this my son was dead, and is alive again; he was lost, and is found. And they began to be merry.
@tonygardiner5585 Also, keep reading. It's a cure for Agastinian anthropology. No one was in Christ until place in Christ by the Holy Spirit. Biblical election is of believers to service and blessing, never spiritual salvation. All 242 times, the word or concept is used in scripture. Ephesians 2:12-13 KJV [12] that at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: [13] but now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
These calvinist are embarrassing🤦♀️ Actually, Jesus Himself told us that’s exactly what God does… Jesus said when He/Holy Spirit has come He will convict the world/lost people of sin/singular of righteousness and of judgment… of sin/singular, because they do not believe in Me John 16-8-9 also Jesus told us in John 14 that the Holy Spirit will be with us/walking/convicting/drawing John 6:44 and then, when we believe He will be in us. Of course they like to take John to 6:44 Totally out of context. They say that nobody can come to the Son unless the Father draws him is a proof text for election… But that is just confirmation of what Jesus told us and John 16:8-9🤦♀️
Man, these Calvinists like Sproul and McArthur are so misguided. Given their beliefs, why do they even preach? Why did Jesus have to sacrifice His life on the cross, in their beliefs? Why is faith even mentioned in the Bible? It’s mentioned because WE HAVE FREE WILL TO CHOOSE HIM OR DENY HIM!
Acts ch 9. The conversion of Saul. Now I wonder what the Apostle Paul would write about election 🤔 🙄 May God open our eyes to see wonderful things in His Word. Amen.
According to Christian doctrine, regeneration by the Holy Spirit is necessary for someone to have saving faith in Jesus Christ. The Bible teaches that apart from the work of the Holy Spirit, people are spiritually dead and unable to understand or accept the message of the Gospel (1 Corinthians 2:14). Therefore, it is believed that individuals cannot come to believe in Jesus Christ solely by their own efforts or intellect. However, it's important to note that God can use various means to draw people to himself, including preaching, witnessing, and the testimony of believers. While regeneration by the Holy Spirit is necessary for someone to have true saving faith, God can still work in the hearts of individuals through these means to bring them to a point of repentance and faith in Christ. Ultimately, though, it is understood within Christian theology that regeneration is the work of God's grace.
Paul, if you are going to blatantly lie to decent people here about my well known position on this that I have debated with you over and over and is the exact opposite of what you wrote above just to smear me with your lies then I will block you permanently. This is your one and only warning. Don't do that again! Also, you obviously see and respond to every single comment and reply, so I expect you to come back here and add a comment to this person above and admit you lied about me. Otherwise, you are not welcome here anymore.
Ephesians 2:8-9 NIV [8] For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith---and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God--- [9] not by works, so that no one can boast. MAYBE HERE
The more I listen to Calvinist, I think they are just very carnal. They are not spiritually minded. They can't understand spiritual things. He doesn't even understand spiritual death!
These celebrity type speakers think they can get away with teaching anything because of their known status. Scripture is clear that the teacher is held accountable. These people will stand before God one day and answer for this false teaching and all those they lied to and led wrongly
He wasn’t a celebrity 50 years ago, and he was teaching it then. So if you build your comment based on him being well known, how does that apply to him 50 years ago?
@@scott5654 RC Sproul was one of the celebrated leading voices and teachers of Calvinism speaking at all the big conferences when he was alive, much like John MacArthur. Sproul only died recently in 2017 at age 78 so I am not sure why you are mentioning 50 years ago when he would have only been 18 years old.
I do understand that calvinisem is way out....and not the Gospel of the Bible. But in this message if you listen carefully he is not saying that God comes and whisper and woo you etc..etc...He asks a question. Does God come and whisper.....and woo you.....what he is saying is , God does not woo you but calls you instantly like he called Laserus from the dead. And of course we are predestined to respond positively with no choice of our own. [Calvinistic theology] please correct me if I am wrong!
@Hay Victoria en Jesucristo You state that Calvinism is a different gospel. Please describe what you mean. How is the gospel of Calvinism different from the gospel you hold to?
@@redmane_0725 There's only one gospel. When it is said that Calvinism teaches a different gospel, it is meant in the sense that it is a false gospel. The brother in charge of this channel has lots of videos that discuss the heresy and corruption of Calvinism in regards to soteriology. You may want to explore this channel in this regard. Greetings.
@Hay Victoria en Jesucristo I am aware of Brian's accusations of heresy and claims of a false gospel against Reformed Theology, but just as you are unable, so also is he unable to define what those heresies are, and what that false gospel is.
@@redmane_0725 It's not about being unable to defend my position; it's just that I've been down this road before, and it's tiring. My original post was meant to give my support to Brian's position directly, not to engage in debate with my Reformed/Calvinist brethren. Greetings.
So the bottom line from Sproul is that if your actually "saved" you ARE a calvinist like it or not ?... I am saved and I don't accept any form of calvinism... so what's the point of teaching this stuff.. Who benefits from believing you don't have and never had a 'free-will' ?? Again.. even if it was correct... what's the point of pushing this on everybody ??
I agree, the whole analogy dead men cannot come to faith in Christ is not Scriptural. Yes, there is a drawing of God, but the drawing of God is not regeneration (making alive).
@@franciscafazzo3460 and @Redmane_0 That is your belief. What do the Scriptures say? To pass from death to life is regeneration, and that is only possible by first believing in Lord Jesus after hearing the Gospel. Regeneration, which is to pass from death to life (2 Corinthians 1:9-10), is by faith: John 5:24 (WEB) “Most certainly I tell you, he who hears {{listens to}} my word and {{believes}} him who sent me has eternal life, and doesn’t come into judgment, but has {{{passed out of death into life}}} [regeneration]. Regeneration is the light of life (Ephesians 5:8) by faith evidenced by following Lord Jesus: John 8:12 (EWEB) “I am the light of the world. [Isaiah 60:1] He who follows me will not walk in the darkness, but will have the {{light of life}}.” [The light of life is regeneration and is God’s Work in those who follow Lord Jesus.] The fact is that many who are dead in sin sincerely seek to enter onto life (Luke 13:23-25) but are not every sinner is willing to count the cost, which is everything (Luke 14:26-33; Matthew 13:44-45). They may “believe in Jesus,” but many people refuse to put their faith in Jesus as their Lord because they refuse to repent and sanctify their hearts and lives to God from the fleshly idols they presently serve (2 Thessalonians 2:10-12). Nevertheless, as the Scriptures state, to pass from death to life, and to possess the light of life, comes by faith in Lord Jesus. Luke 9:23-25 (EWEB) 23 He said to all, “If anyone desires to come after me, let him deny himself, take up his cross daily and follow me. 24 For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever will lose his life for my sake, will save it. 25 For what does it profit a man if he gains the whole world, and loses or forfeits his own self?
Such a bad comparison between Lazarus and being born again free choice...you need to be like a child to enter the gates of heaven, I don't believe any child is a theologian nor the thief on the cross. I guarantee if any Calvinist was at the foot of the cross looking at Jesus would dare say you are doing this for some and not others. When the centurion and those with him who were guarding Jesus saw the earthquake and all that had happened, they were terrified, and exclaimed, “Surely he was the Son of God!” Mat 27:54...child like...pure and unfathomable love! Excellent description of the prodigal son clear as day.
In Ephesians 1 and 2, the Apostle Paul discusses the concepts of predestination, election, and salvation by grace through faith. In Ephesians 1, Paul emphasizes God's sovereign choice in salvation, stating that believers were chosen before the foundation of the world. This speaks to the idea that God chooses individuals for salvation according to his will, not based on anything they have done. Ephesians 2 focuses on the state of humanity before salvation and the work of God in bringing about salvation. It describes humanity as spiritually dead in sin and in need of being made alive through Christ. The chapter highlights God's mercy, grace, and love in saving sinners and making them alive in Christ. It emphasizes that salvation is not earned by human effort but is a gift of God. Overall, these chapters affirm the sovereignty of God in salvation, the depravity of humanity apart from God's grace, and the necessity of faith in Christ for salvation. They teach that regeneration by the Holy Spirit is necessary for someone to believe in Jesus Christ and that salvation is ultimately the work of God.
@@timsmith530 “Jesus answered them, “Do not grumble among yourselves. No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day.” John 6:43-44 Yes, I am sure.
Was listening to Leighton Flowers explain the son as being dead, as separated from the Father, which makes sense when Christ reconciles us with God the Father. The son came to his senses (being dead in his sins, how did that happen?), Wasn't he too depraved to make that decision?
9:31 in here and I think of Peter who took the courage and declared that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God, and Jesus told him that flesh and blood did not reveal that to him, but the Father who is in heaven did reveal that to him, and I will say, by grace, seems to me. Yet, it took Peter awhile to come to that revelation no doubt by being with Jesus and seeing and hearing the things pertaining to the kingdom of God.
Calvinists twist the scripture to their own distraction.Jesus said these men draw near to me with their lips but their heart is far from Him, teaching the doctrines or commandments of men to the point the word of God has no affect on them. Men that are bound by Calvinists teaching are in many ways blinded to the truth of the gospel, listening to this man shows that. Calvinists need to get out of idolatry and follow Jesus according to the scripture not john calvin.
The truth, with respect to Brian's video, is that Brian does not deal forthrightly with Sproul's presentation at all. I have found and viewed the original presentation in its entirety, and Brian never actually deals with the issue being discussed by Sproul, which is the two different views that are held on regeneration, namely: Monergism versus Synergism. The evidence is apparent in the clip Brian used, beginning with Sproul reading from Ephesians 2, which takes place at the 4:27 mark of the original presentation. Shortly after reading the text, Sproul moves to his left, and we can see two words written on the chalkboard behind him. Those words are: Monergism, and below it is Synergism. So what we actually have here is a blatant case of fallacious strawman argumentation, in which Brian sets up a caricature of Sproul's argument and attempts to refute that caricature, all the while avoiding dealing fairly and honestly with the real content of Sproul's presentation.
@4theLAMBS You are welcome to ridicule what I have said all you like, but doing so will never constitute a refutation of what I've said, for just as Brian has done with Sproul's presentation, you also are unwilling, or unable, to justly represent what I have said and formulate a response to it.
@redmane_0725 thank you for being honest. I only met RC in passing, but did get to know RC, Jr. fairly well when he did a few of our church seminars back in the early 2000s. I know Brian seems to have a hatred for people who disagree with him and who are very knowledgeable and faithful ministers of the Bible. ❤
Monergism vs Synergism is a red herring. He's not trying to refute the presentation, he's trying to refute the interpretation and subsequent argumentation made by Sproul. The fact that Sproul makes it about monergism vs synergism is irrelevant. If the foundation he uses to get to monergism (his Calvinist interpretations) is flawed then it doesn't matter where he lands on that topic.
@r.rodriguez4991 he would have to prove that it is flawed and he can't, so arguing against a straw man as our friend above was pointing out is dishonest... which doesn't surprise me because I have found Brian to be dishonest in the past and have called him out on this.
16:06 here, and I think about famines. Either by natural cycles of nature, or sent by God, a famine can cause us, or help us to return to God, or to seek God, for our salvation.
@@TheMaineSurveyor I don't see 'the canons of Dort' listed in my canon of the Bible. Nor do I see the 'Baptist Confession'. Which translation are you referencing?🤭
@@sasanka207 I mentioned the Canons of Dort because that is the document that lists the so-called Calvinist doctrines, and the Scriptures they reference. If you want to know what Calvinism is, read the Canons of Dort and the Scriptures it cites. Then see if you can find Andrew Lineberger’s equation there.
Listening to Sproul actually can make one nauseous
Only if you are missing his biblically correct points.
@@ryleighloughty3307 well understood his points, not a very biblically accurate preacher for sure with his gnostic calvinism
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The points of Calvinism are biblical.
@@ryleighloughty3307 not even a little bit.
They are gnostic in origin
@@ryleighloughty3307False “Gospel.”
Lazarus was ALREADY a believer, prior to his death! Jesus' raising Lazarus foreshadows the resurrection of the believers. not the unbelievers! (Mary, Martha and their household had Jesus as their guest regularly and Lazarus was a follower of Jesus along with his sisters prior to his death).
Well said! Thanks. God bless you!
I agree with your statement. Romans 3:9-20 supports RC, as man does not know or pursue God with God granting man the gift. Stay blessed.
@@christophersailor5592 Rom 3:9-20 speaks of the LAW and WORKS. We are all unrighteous and all guilty as far as the Law and Works are concerned. This is why in other passages Holy Scripture speaks of mankind's HEART. And there we indeed see how man - (in all of humans' sinfulness) year and long for God's righteousness and grace. UNLESS THEY HARDEN THEIR HEARTS. Then God leaves them to their own devices. 2 Cor :16 "Even to this day when Moses is read, a veil covers their hearts
But whenever anyone turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away." The sequence is: Whenever anyone 1. TURNS their heart to God, then 2. and as a consequence of the turning of one's heart- the veil is taken away. The veil being the separation between God and mankind (see Temple Curtain rent asunder at the Cross when Christ paid for our sins). [Not the other way around: Not veil taken and after that all of a sudden our hearts turns, as Calvinist ideology falsely claims.]
Have you thought that perhaps both doctrines are taught with Lazaru's resurrection? How do you explain Acts 2:23? Moving on further, explain this: Was Jesus Christ’s crucifixion predetermined since it was foretold in the bible? Was it at any point that Christ could not have been crucified? Was there at any point that Judas could have changed his mind and not betray Jesus? Was Christ’s crucifixion only foreseen (as if God foresaw in the future what would happen and based on that He made His decision)? If God actually predetermined Christ’s crucifixion what causes the certainty of its outcome?
@@mr.jollybear5180 explain this: WHy was Jesus tempted by the Devil? Why Did Jesus pray in agony sweating blood on Calvary? Why did Jesus beseech his disciples to stay up and pray with him though they fell asleep? And WHY do you QUEStion GOD's ABILITY to give us free will? WHY DO YOU REDUCE God to a TYRANt who cannot KEEP HIS PRomise of man created in HIS IMAGE? DO you BElieve GOD has NO FREE WILL? Explain this: Why did God Send Jonah to change the mind of the NNEVITES? Why did GOD say on numerous occasions that HE REPENTED His own choice? WHY do you DOUBT that GOD keeps His Promise to give us a CHOICE? As in: "Choose you this day..." And countless other incidences? WHY DO you Reduce GDD ALMIGHTY into one of your OWN image a reduced god? " LOrd open this person's eyes and mind so he might behold that YOU are far greater than his limited small-minded understanding can comprehend." Amen and Amen In Jesus Name we pray.
Very good job of putting this altogether- Calvinism has a false gospel and is not biblical !
Yes, Lazarus was already a believer. And, spoiler alert.... he died again. Jesus said specifically why he tarried and permitted Lazarus to die, it had nothing to do with illustrating salvation and everything to do with demonstrating who he was, and the authority he had.
If you want to read some interesting distorted stuff,,, look up how Calvinists try to explain the story of the Prodigal Son... They usually begin with suggesting no parable is perfect. Ignoring the obvious and trying to amplify what little they can find to fit their 'system'. And before they've finished one would need a weedeater to find their way back to the Bible version. they cannot read any scripture without filtering through the lens of TULIP first.
This makes a lot of sense of why whenever I was discussing scripture with a calvanist they'd not do it without the lens of their doctrine
@@hzlkelly Tks. Yes. Calvinists begin by accepting the Augustinian premise that "all men are BORN unable to respond positively to God". There is no verse to support that to be the condition of all men from 'birth'... but it is the foundation stone of their enter doctrine. And it is inseparable from examining any verse in the Bible from their perspective. It is the "given" of any Calvinist argument. If one is convinced to accept that false premise.... the rest of Calvinism becomes necessary by process of logic. If all men are 'born' hating God and rebelling against him, unable to believe in him... how does anyone get saved? THAT is the question they begin trying to answer and each answer they propose only creates more questions... which must be answered and in turn create even more questions. It's ridiculous. But once they tie their leg to Augustinian Total Depravity/Inability... it's inescapable.
They are not a monolithic group but they are pretty consistent in their inability to accept anyone ever rejects Calvinism because they DO understand it. Most conversations with those who disagree with them end with comments like , "you just don't understand Calvinism" and/or "Who are you to question God?".... when it's not God, but Calvinism in question.
@@R.L.KRANESCHRADTT that's exactly it. I actually started by listening to reformed Baptists then I joined some baptist groups on FB and 90% of the time it was bashing charismatic preachers a d praying John Mcarthur so I began examing from afar & I found them to be plagued by a Pharisee mindset. It was amazing how I didn't see it from the get go. But you've described them to the letter. That's exactly how they are.
@@hzlkelly Their well polished arguments can be convincing to those believers who are unprepared for how they 'use' scripture to build there case. It's sometimes possible for a Calvinist to convince an unsuspecting Christian they've been a Calvinist all along and just didn't know it.. in under a half an hour! Fortunately, we have more and more channels like this one taking Leighton Flowers lead and helping 'lift the curtain' to expose the nonsense and the misrepresentation of God's character Calvinism promotes.
What? So spiritual death is now equitable to actual, literal, physical death? RC both grants more activity to a rotting corpse than is possible while simultaneously reducing a living, breathing, thinking, acting human being to the same state of the aforementioned corpse! The mind of the calvinist is truly a scary place!
It amazes me that they use Lazarus as proof text. They need to be mocked for it. It is the only remedy for this line of thinking.
As an analogy of the truth. Not a proof text. Deadman can’t do anything good. Deadman can do bad things. This is clearly taught in the Scriptures.
No, that is not the Christ-like attitude that we should have... don't stoop to their level.
@Brandon the Zealot
What is the difference between a proof-text and an analogy?
An analogy doesn't come from the Bible. An analogy is something compared to ordinary life, which is how Jesus used parables. If you use something from the Scripture, you are making a proof text.
Go back to Ephesians 2, "you were dead in your sins, IN WHICH YOU FORMERLY WALKED..." Dead men do not walk or make decisions. Death clearly means a separation between a person and God. And consider Lazarus's condition, "to be abstinent from the body is to be with the Lord." R.C. Sproul's "analogy" is nothing but Folly.
So hateful. So sad.
Calvinists would argue that the "son" in the parable of the two sons and the loving father was already saved and just went "wandering" as that would be a depiction of God predetermining the salvation of the "lost" one anyways. But then again, the word "dead" would not make sense here. So, I am with you here. I don't like Calvinism at all.
But it also says he was blind and then he saw
@@aletheia8054 😄Really? Where does it say that? No, it says only 'lost' and 'dead' and they mean the same thing. No Calvinism to 'see'.
Yes, and we have the verse that says God is not willing that any should perish. How can we trust in a God who tells us through inspired word that he is not willing that any should perish when the CALVINIST truth of the matter is that absolutely he is willing that billions should perish, and not only that, but that God determined and predestined the destiny of those that would perish before the world even began?
One cancels the other out. And what THEY will say is that God has his secret will and he has his revealed will. Well, if his will is secret, how is it that THEY know it? What made THEM special to know that his secret well is that actually indeed he is willing billions should perish???
😡 THAT is so not right. It is so very wrong. It is just NOT true. God says what HE means and means when HE says. And HE says HE IS NOT willing that any should perish. Many do perish and will be damned. So who made them perish?
IT WAS NOT GOD
@@sasanka207 Yes you’re right. Says dead and alive and lost and found
That’s the sheep.
@@aletheia8054 Lost is an unsaved person, found is a saved person. Unsaved person is not elect, except for Hell, by default. John 3:18 Election to glory is only in Christ. So when does that happen?
This is what Paul says. "Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ." Eph 2:11-13
That's Paul to Gentile Believers at his present time. Gentiles (that includes you) had no hope, and without God, aliens, and strangers before the Lord paid for the sins of the world (includes Gentiles). At that time, no Gentile was 'in Christ', Paul says Gentiles were without Christ. And as an individual, that's what you were right up to the moment you believed. If you are actually a saved person, that's when your personal 'now in Christ' happened, when you believed. "In time past' is contrasted with 'but now in Christ', spoken to born-again Believers.
And you thought you were 'in Christ' before the foundation of the world, right? So how do you explain Paul's words?
it was the love of Jesus Christ that drew me in. Pastors who pass judgement against victim's of sexual abuse is big turn off and that is not what I read about Jesus Christ in his word when I read it.
This channel made me aware how SUBTLY Calvinism totally turns the Gospel on its head when you follow down the path of Calvinist thinking: 1. What initially looks like a minor deviation turns into a massive abyss that swallows up Bible truth 2. Most of us feel yeah without God I am sliding ever deeper into depravity! WHICH IS TRUE. But the Bible tells us that only AFTER a person keeps hardening their heart does God ABANDON them to their depravity. He stands at the door and knocks but despite HIS attempts they keep Him out and harden THEMSELVES. As a result of their hardening HE says, leave them alone they have adjoined themselves to Baal .Hosea 4:17 "Ephraim is joined to idols, Leave him alone." This depravity comes only AFTER they continually and obstinately refuse to turn and seek that which is good namely God and His Salvation.
So much child abuse esp. those following Calvinism (Victorian Age etc) was based on Calvinist ideology. 'Beat the devil out of the children' it was assumed they are little depraved devils aka Total Depravity which justified the horrific child abuse. And, if the child was predestined for destruction the abuse was justified in their minds anyways. Victorian Age orphanages adopted that attitude with horrible results.
@@paulpowell6418 He knocks at EVERYONE's door my dear. It is up to US to open or not to open. It is our choice. Some respond and some do harden themselves.
@@paulpowell6418 P.S.: you make the sweeping false claim that I take Rev 3:20 out of context. WHAT context do you see this verse in? Your claim is that he only knocks on the door of the supposed 'elect'? Nowhere does it say so. Can you prove that from Scriptures?
@@paulpowell6418 TO THOSE WHO HAVE NOT TURNE DOT CHRIST! BTW, I spent a full two year studying Revelation. Each of the admonishing to the 7 churches have multiple applications 1. the physical churches existing at these locations at that tome, 2. Church history... as centuries and ages roll by you can see how different church attitudes apply to the predominant Zeitgeist churches at different ages embraced. 3. The Individual human. Cheers and happy studying! ESP REVELATION MIGHT BE OF INTEREST TO YOU ONCE YOU DIG DEEPER. BEST OF LUCK!
@@paulpowell6418 OH y the gross assumptions that you make LOL! Revelation is three-dimensional chess and more and you seem to understand it one-dimensionally. But that is fine...keep reading and studying hopefully things will click for you on some level. As far as your aggressive tone you might want to look into that and making sweeping assumptions about others that have no grounding in reality. A therapist might help with that particular disorder. Best of LUCK! Cheers and Good Bye!
It's painful to listen to🤕
I agree, it's really painful to listen to Faith on fire.
@@mr.jollybear5180 Really? It's painful to hear that God made creatures with the ability to know Him and that He gives everyone one of them the way?
Interesting.
I’ll tell you what, not a single non-Calvinist has ever addressed the following questions to me: Was Jesus Christ’s crucifixion predetermined since it was foretold in the bible? Was it at any point that Christ could not have been crucified? Was there at any point that Judas could have changed his mind and not betray Jesus? Was Christ’s crucifixion only foreseen (as if God foresaw in the future what would happen and based on that He made His decision)? If God actually predetermined Christ’s crucifixion what caused the certainty of its outcome? What causes the certainty of any prophecy to come? You most certainly have the answers to these questions. Elucidate it for me since I am looking through the lens of Calvinism. Or, will you avoid like the rest of you on RUclips channels hiding under the false pretense of self-righteousness?
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@@KISStheSON...when you have a high sense of self, people that agree with you, and a low view of everyone else, especially God. It is painful to hear that God wants everyone to come to repentance to be saved. Probably why they rush past that verse lol
@@mr.jollybear5180 🎯
A question for my Calvinist brothers: If the "elect"(Calvinist understanding of this word) were always in Christ, chosen before the foundations of the world, then how did they get Out of Christ, enemies, children of wrath, in order to be brought back in?
Calvinism renders sin irrelevant. In Calvinism there is no chance that the elect would ever go to hell, because of God's choice, and any sin they committed is irrelevant.
I agree with most of what you said here, especially the part about Covert Calvinism. But in my experience most Reformed people are just going about their lives as believers, not trying to cram TULIP down anybody's throat. I attended a Presbyterian church for a couple of years over 20 years ago, and nobody there even brought up Calvinism. It was a good church and I liked most of the people. It was many years after I left that I started studying Calvinism, and I went back and checked and discovered that those people were Reformed. They were what I would call the D. James Kennedy brand of Reformed rather than the John MacArthur brand. I would never accuse them of preaching a false gospel or anything like that. The problem is the activists who go to all the conferences, read all the books, and want to debate everybody. They may be the minority but they're a very vocal minority.
I would respectfully ask, if a very kind and very genuine group both overtly and covertly promoted a message, in these end times, in the church, and not about a minor or secondary issue, but about the very Lord Jesus Christ, the extent of his love, his very sacrifice, his atonement, his perseverance, his very Gospel, and this 'genuine' group turned every aspect literally on its head, denied everything the Scripture and God clearly said....what more would this group need to do for it to be the false Gospel Paul warned believers about so empathically in Galatians? By definition, "Things that are different are not the same". Someone said, Calvinism is like a five pronged attack on the Gospel itself.
It seems to me Satan is working really hard to deceive believers and prevent true conversions, both aggressively and by stealth, infecting churches.
Also as someone said, sincerity is not a substitute for truth. Having said this, I think most people in these churches have believed the true Gospel, before they stumbled into Calvinism. That's what happened to me for a few years. By God's mercy, I read, was convicted, and got out relatively quickly.
Thanks for sharing that. It is possible the church you attend was a breed of Presbyterian not so caught up being constant defenders of Calvinism, but traditionally speaking the Presbyterians are the Calvinists though that has spread dramatically over the last 20 years. They are often unapologetically Calvinistic, like RC Sproul. While I am not trying to disagree with your experience, but just throwing this out there... could it be possible that over 20 years ago you did not recognize Calvinism as clearly as you do today? Maybe you studied back then. I am just guessing. I certainly didn't. I also briefly attended a Presbyterian church years ago every Sunday for a couple years because at that time it was the only Brazilian Bible church around and my wife is from Brazil. So we went there for a time and made some very good friends, some of which have actually moved to Orlando like us and are still close friends. Brazilian churches are a dime a dozen here and even well before we moved here my wife and I decided to go back to an English speaking church, but maintained those friendships. My wife is fluent in both languages but I am not, and I had to listen to a translator when it was available. I don't really remember any strong Calvinistic teachings looking back but that could be for two reasons... the pastor was not in agreement with many of the Presbyterian teachings but just stuck with what the Bible says (in Portuguese). Perhaps his disagreements were about Calvinism. I don't remember. I didn't know squat about Calvinism back then, so I would not recognize it like today. I would more likely have simply recognized a thought or teaching at a sermon that made me think to myself, that sounds off from what I read in the Bible myself. That is probably the extent of what I would have noticed.
So, you are probably right, and most certainly there are the Calvinist activists out there today and as you said, they are a very loud vocal minority. God bless you!
@@paulpowell6418 Doesn't matter what I believe. I'm not his judge. I was not with him nor did I speak with RC Sproul in his latter days before dying. Did he repent and trust in Christ alone rather than in his false ideas of unconditional election? Hard to say. That is between him and God. I can tell you this much though. He was a heretic that knowingly and willingly distorted the Word of God in order to further his religious system and he led many astray.
@@paulpowell6418 Really?? You have to be joking.
@@faithonfireministries Affirming TULIP does not preclude one from salvation in my opinion. Suggesting it does overlooks what one must believe to be saved as spelled out in scripture.There are hard-core types on both sides of the isle who each deny salvation from the other. They should not. I think both are ignoring what scripture says about what one must believe to be saved. And God has determined to save those who believe. The argument is not “if” they believe in Christ, it is “how” and “why” they believe. I believe a Calvinist can be saved, regardless of how confused he may have become about how it happened.
Most Calvinists have come to Christ and salvation before knowing anything about Calvinism... now that I think about it, this is true even of R.C. Sproul! He became convinced of the "doctrines of grace" by a college professor as a young Christian seminary student. He started his Christian walk as a non-Calvinist. LIke Piper, he claimed to deny and kick and cry and resist the 'Doctrines of Grace' aggressively until finally accepting them... doesn't sound like a normal reaction to hearing "Good News" to me.. just sayin'🤔🤔
Dr Sproul even wrote of his own struggles with 'assurance' trying to offer comfort to others who also struggle. But he could offer no hope, only commiseration. Because, in the end TULIP offers none, only the hope that one was truly 'picked'.
He believed in who Christ is and what he had done, virgin birth, sinless life, scrifical death, resurrection, ascension, etc. but had tied his leg to a doctrine which planted the seed of doubt that it could be trusted that Christ died for any one specific individual, even himself, personally. I think God merciful I don't doubt Sproul's salvation, it's of no benefit for me to do so and it's above my paygrade anyway.
Good one Brother! I’m glad your channel exists to expose the complete heretical teaching of Calvinism. Death in the Bible implies separation. When Adam & Eve fell, the day they ate of the fruit they were separated from God. I do believe that both grace and faith are gifts. We all have the capability to believe and make the choice to respond to the gospel by an act of our own free will. The Bible teaches that we suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because we prefer darkness, not because we don’t have the ability to choose. And yes, exercised faith comes before regeneration, as we respond to the truth of God’s Word and are born again. 🙏
So I’m in bed with covid. Don’t worry I’m fine just tired and it’s a head cold
Watching this video and I agree with all of it and shared with your anger with sproul who I used to love reading.
One suggestion if I may. I wouldn’t use , me personally, the parable of the prodigal . You are correct in your assessment, i just think using another example from scripture would be better.
1. The prodigal is a picture of father/son kingdom relationship. I know everyone uses it as a salvation parable and in a sense it is, but probably not an eternal salvation issue. The father and son already are in relationship. The son leaves and is no longer under the protection of the father, then returns . I don’t know if this is a picture of eternal life or if it’s a picture of a kingdom relationship. But I lean toward the latter .
2. Cornelius isn’t a parable. It has specifics about what he did, what God did, when he received the HS which was after hearing and believing .
I just think it a stronger argument .
With that being said, a pastor supporter of ours is very upset with my comments about Calvinism. He says he’s not a Calvinist but he is in reality a 4 point Calvinist. Which technically means he’s a 5 point but he’s uncomfortable saying he believes in the L in tulip. But it doesn’t matter. You can’t say you don’t beleive in limited atonement but you do in Gods election to salvation. That just makes no sense
Anyway, love the video and thanks for your work
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John, Hope you are fully restored in no time! God bless you. So, on your 2nd point, yes that is a great example. I will keep that in mind if I do a video like this one again. However, on the first point, let me briefly explain how I see the Prodigal Son. There are many kids that grow up in Christian homes, go to church weekly with their parents, know the true Gospel but they simply never care and never take it seriously. They go off to college, do some wild living, don't return to church and act like the Prodigal Son. Then as an adult some of them (sadly not all) come to their senses like the Prodigal Son and rather than come home literally, they return to that firm foundation that was instilled in them, they embrace the Gospel of Jesus Christ and become saved and realize how amazing the gift of grace truly is, and how merciful and patient God is with us all. That is what was going on in the Prodigal Son story in my opinion. I don't actually believe this was a saved son who just backslid and then repented and got right with God so to speak. The father twice called him "dead" but alive again. He was not physically dead obviously, so the only option left is spiritually dead.
Sorry to hear about the pastor that is supporting you but giving you some grief over comments about Calvinism. I agree with you that he is truly a 5 pointer no doubt. I watched a video with RC Sproul sitting next to John MacArthur once. They were asked to comment on whether or not someone can be anything but a 5 point Calvinist. They both answered and agreed that if you believe in just one point of Calvinism it is just a matter of time before you learn how these doctrines are intertwined and if one is true they all must be true, so in time such a person will become a 5 point Calvinist. I agree with them on that. If one is true they are all true logically speaking because it is a well thought out philosophy, but just does not hold up to Scripture. On the flip side, if you can debunk just one point of Calvinism legitimately with Scripture than anyone can start to see Scripture debunks all 5 points, because they all are intertwined and related.
Well, I hope you can work things out in that relationship. That is a tough one. May God grant you wisdom and bless you!
The entire massive doctrinal edifice of Calvinism is designed to protect and obscure just one tiny idea, and that's the "U" in TULIP: Unconditional Election. The other points and the greater body of ideas and doctrines is just to support Fatalism.
My first realisation that something is wrong with Calvinism came when a friend tried telling me John 3:16 doesn’t mean what it says, and he went on to adjust several words in it. So, to him the world means the elect, God doesn’t love everybody, and whosoever doesn’t mean what it usually does! That was the first telltale sign to me. I’ve since discovered numerous other problems with that worldview.
I am 100% with you in your stand against Calvinism, but I don't think the prodigal son story is the best one to use. I am convinced that it is speaking of backsliding, since he was already a son.
But you touched on the fatal flaw of Calvinism in that Sproul confuses physical death with spiritual death. This is seen in Genesis. What did God say would happen to Adam and Eve if they ate of the forbidden fruit? "Thou shalt surely die." Did they drop dead the moment they ate? No, physical death didn't come till centuries later. They were put out of the garden. That's what spiritual death is: separation from God. When Paul wrote that we were dead in sins, he meant that we were spiritually separated from God, though very much alive physically. And since people are alive physically, they CAN respond to the Gospel and the convicting power of the Holy Spirit.
Another good argument is the account of the "rich young ruler." Was he "chosen," or not? If he were one of the "elect," he would have believed because of "irresistible grace." But since he didn't, does that mean he was not "chosen?" If so, then Jesus didn't really mean it when he invited him to follow Him, He was just playing mind games. This teaching, which besmirches the character of God, will go down in flames at the Judgment.
Wow, that is a great insight about the rich young ruler. I hadn't thought of that. I am going to read that again in Scripture very closely. Thanks! God bless you!
Ooo, I agree,,excellent, both about Adam & Eve & the rich young ruler!
I have heard Pastor Robert Morris "suggest" that perhaps the rich young ruler was Joseph of Aramethia - it was just a suggestion - a nice idea, but quite an age difference since Jesus' ministry was 3 1/2 years . . . unless Jesus encountered the rich young ruler when He was 12 while He was amazing the scholars in the temple . . . but then you're right back at grasping things from the scripture that just aren't there.
@@faithonfireministries What is really sad is he makes fun of God wooing people when the Word of God says the kindness of the Lord leads men to repentance
RC Sproul Teaching Calvinism: Weak Arguments and Blasphemy
Welcome back, everyone! This is Brian with Faith on Fire, and in today's video, we're going to talk about being dead in sins, being made alive in Christ, and the order of regeneration. We'll also look at a good example in the Bible that describes this transformation from being spiritually dead to being spiritually alive through the process of salvation, regeneration, and being born again-made a new creation in Christ.
I've never featured the late R.C. Sproul on the channel before. I think I've mentioned him once or twice in relation to John MacArthur, but never actually featured a video clip from him. So, I'm going to do that today. He's going to tell us what his favorite story in the Bible is to uphold his Calvinistic view. If you're not familiar with R.C. Sproul-and I think a lot of people probably are, but I'll say it anyway-he was a very famous American theologian. He was part of the Presbyterian Church of America (PCA) and started Ligonier Ministries. It's a very popular ministry that provides resources, articles, and holds conferences to uphold Calvinism and defend the faith, particularly the Five Points of Calvinism.
We're going to look at a course where he's teaching a class, and we'll just look at a tiny clip of it. You'll see what I'm doing with this when you hear his explanation. Then we'll get into the real story. I'll just tell you now, we're going to take a look at the story he references and see what it really says. You'll see it's quite different from what he portrays it to be. Then we're going to look at a different gospel story to see the real story that best represents being dead in sins and made alive in Christ. You'll see a big, big difference.
Here we go. Chapter two of Ephesians: "And you He made alive who were dead in trespasses and sins, in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience, among whom we also once conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the others." Paul is looking back now and he's speaking to his friends and fellow converts among the Ephesian Christians. He reminds them of who it is who raised them from spiritual death. While they were dead in their sins and trespasses, God the Holy Spirit quickened them-raised them from the dead spiritually.
Okay, so far, no problem. He's quoted scripture. He's describing what happens: you're dead in sins, you're made alive in Christ. So far, so good.
I remind you that dead people don't cooperate. This is where it gets a little wonky. That is true-dead people do not cooperate. My favorite analogy to what Paul is talking about here is the resurrection of Lazarus from the tomb. Lazarus had been dead for four days, and the only power in the universe that could bring that corpse out of that cave was the creative, energizing power of God. Christ didn't invite Lazarus out of the tomb. He didn't wait for Lazarus to cooperate. He said, "Lazarus, come forth," and by the sheer divine power of that imperative, that which was dead became alive. Then, of course, he cooperates after-I mean, he walks out of the tomb-but there was no cooperation at the point of the change of his nature from death to life.
In a similar fashion, what we hear Paul saying here is you're in a state of spiritual death. I don't know-Paul is not saying we are dead in a tomb like Lazarus. Let's get that straight. In physical death, you can't do anything. Someone who's alive, whether they're an unbeliever or a believer, still can do things. This is not a good analogy. But anyway, you're by nature children of wrath. According to Jesus, no one can come to the Father unless it is given to him of the Father, and in your flesh you can do nothing. That doesn't mean a little something. Left to yourself, you will never choose the things of God while you're in this state of spiritual death, walking according to the course of this world.
Okay, I thought dead people don't do anything. Lazarus was in the tomb; he couldn't do anything. He couldn't be walking around at all. What is he talking about? He couldn't be sinning while he was in the tomb. He wasn't thinking about lustful things when he was in the tomb, physically dead. But there's more to it than that. Let's keep listening.
Walking according to the prince of the power of the air, obeying the lusts of your flesh. Was Lazarus obeying the lusts of his flesh for the four days that he was dead in the tomb? I don't think so. Just like everybody else in the world, while you're in that state, God makes you alive. Now, after he makes you alive, do you reach out? Do you stretch? Do you come? Do you believe? Yes, but it's that initial step, that first step. Is it something that God and God alone does, or does God just come right up to you and woo you, entice you, encourage you, whisper into the ears of a deaf man, "Come on"?
Oh my, I mean, I was going to just get into the story of Lazarus and show you what the story really means. And I'm going to do that, but I forgot about that part. Think about what he said there. Now, did God do anything to woo you, to entice you, to whisper sweet nothings in your ear? Notice the immaturity of that. I mean, I get this picture of God like he's making fun of it. He's making light, like God doesn't do this stuff. He's not trying to attract you and get your attention so you'll come to faith in Christ. He's making the point that you can't-you're dead in sins. God does it a different way, supernaturally transferring you first out of your unbelief, out of the blue, and you don't even want to believe. He forces you. Irresistible grace-that's the "I" in TULIP, irresistible grace, applied to the elect so they are forced to now believe.
I'm glad we agree about RC Sproul and the dangers of Calvinism. However, you copied into your comment a large portion of the transcript which might cause confusion. Without the video nobody reading this can tell who is speaking, me or RC Sproul. Somebody might read this and think I said something that in reality was part of the transcript because I played the clips of RC Sproul speaking and teaching his nonsense. Just wanted to add that thought. God bless you!
Another good video, Brian :)
Calvinism is a variant of Catholicism. John Calvin was taught by Catholics.
Calvinism, as in this video, implies that evangelism and witnessing (if not irrelevant at all, as it is with hyper-C's) is simply there as a way of making God speak through the evangelist as if they have become a manifestation of God himsel - like God speaking through the Donkey in Numbers. That is exactly the same as Catholic Priests breathing upon a baby during a Christening and claiming that it is truly God's breath (just like the wafer is Jesus' real body and the wine is Jesus' real blood not a symbolic representative of it).
This is not the true message of Christianity. Disciples were there to spread the word to those that needed to hear the Good News - the world - so that of their own volition they could choose to follow Christ and when they did they were saved as new creatures in Christ. But no one was forced to make that choice. God was not wooing anyone either.
This does not make God any less sovereign.
Calvinism is heresy in the Catholic church.. for sure far from Catholic church teachings.
No surprise there
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You wrote: "Calvinism is a variant of Catholicism. John Calvin was taught by Catholics."
But this is patently false. Rather it is the Arminians, the Provisionists, and all the other forms of synergism, who use the Catholic invented 'prevenient grace', or no grace of any kind, as in full or semi-pelagianism, and worship at the idolatrous altar of the Autonomous Will of Man.
@@redmane_0725 You don't know anything about John Calvin are you wouldn't even make this comment
@Cathey Lynn D
To claim that Reformed Theology is derivative of Catholicism just because Calvin was born and raised in Catholic France is as doltish, uninformed, and stupid as it gets. If you call yourself a Protestant, and are thankful for the gospel of justification by faith, then you are indebted to the Reformers God used to bequeath that gospel to you.
I thank you Brian for your kind service,David from London,England
Seems clear to me that the Bible talks about election. Jesus told his own disciples, “Have I not chosen you..” and “there is no one who understands, no one who seeks God”. I believe God has to do a work in a person in order for them to see and start the process of sanctification through the renewing of the mind. But the initial call to life, the wake up call, is initiated by God.
It seems so clear to you that you replaced the clear 2nd half of that verse with a dot dot dot to be deceptive. It never fails, whenever a person defending Calvinistic election quotes Jesus saying "Have I not chosen you..." they always leave off the 2nd half of that verse. That is because Jesus then explains for what purpose they were chosen... to bear fruit that will remain, not for salvation as you would like to claim. Judas was chosen but not saved. And 2000 Years later there are millions of Christians around the world, so I'd say for the Apostles, mission accomplished. For more clarity, read John 6: 70 and you will see a similar verse in which Jesus very clearly says that He has chosen the 12 Apostles and one of them is a Devil. Chosen does not mean for salvation in these instances except through the distorted and wrong lens of Calvinism.
Why don't you simply read the Bible for yourself and tell people what it really says rather than purposefully (or ignorantly) try to distort Scripture and deceive people? I can assure you God is not pleased with those who distorts His Word.
@@faithonfireministries Judas was chosen to be the betrayer. The rest of the Eleven were chosen for salvation _and_ service. Then, later, so was Paul.
@Faith on Fire
The elect are those for whom Jesus intercedes.
And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose. For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren; and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified. What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who is against us? He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him over for us all, how will He not also with Him freely give us all things? *Who will bring a charge against God’s elect?* God is the one who justifies; who is the one who condemns? *Christ Jesus is He who died, yes, rather who was raised, who is at the right hand of God, who also intercedes for us.*
Romans 8:28-34 (NASB1995)
@@redmane_0725 Good stuff!
@@TheMaineSurveyor Judas was chosen for greatness, God does not pick losers,
R. C. Sproul, may he enjoy the Lord's presence, was absolutely and without any shadow of doubt right about what the Bible (not Calvin) teaches about God's Sovereignty, predestination, irresistible grace, etc. I also thank God for John Calvin who did not invent the same but only espoused what was clearly taught in the Bible even in Old Testament.
You have to ignore a ton of Scripture and twist all that you do read in order to support what RC Sproul taught on those matters. Repent and read your Bible without the lens of Calvinism on.
I’ll tell you what, not a single non-Calvinist has ever addressed the following questions to me: Was Jesus Christ’s crucifixion predetermined since it was foretold in the bible? Was it at any point that Christ could not have been crucified? Was there at any point that Judas could have changed his mind and not betray Jesus? Was Christ’s crucifixion only foreseen (as if God foresaw in the future what would happen and based on that He made His decision)? If God actually predetermined Christ’s crucifixion what caused the certainty of its outcome? What causes the certainty of any prophecy to come? You most certainly have the answers to these questions. Elucidate it for me since I am looking through the lens of Calvinism. Or, will you avoid like the rest of you on RUclips channels hiding under the false pretense of self-righteousness?
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Revelation 13: 8 says the Lamb was slain from the foundation of the world. That means before God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit created the Universe and mankind, they knew that man would fall to sin, and they determined the means of redemption through the Son, Jesus Christ, the Lamb of God. This is necessary to give love freely to mankind and allow man the authority to make a choice to return the love and follow God (OT) and follow Jesus (NT) or reject salvation and by doing so choosing hell. It was not individuals chosen by God predestined to heaven or hell that was determined. It was the method of salvation that was determined, and all determined every spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ that was predestined to be given to each person when they become "in Christ" as stated in Ephesians 1. Ephesians 2: 11-13 which Calvinists never read on to figure out, which states that before anyone is "in Christ" they are "without Christ" first which ruins the whole unconditional election before the foundation of the world false doctrine.
You read Ephesians 1: 4 as if it says "chosen TO BE in Him..." but it only says "chosen in Him..." and then gives the "to be" part which is to be blameless and Holy Before God. Nobody is seen that way before God until they come to faith in Christ and become born again, seen in the righteousness of Christ rather than in their sins and worthless filthy rags of self-righteousness.
@faithonfireministries What part of dead in sins and transgressions do you not understand. We were by nature objects of wrath. Jesus said that if you didn't believe in him you were condemned already. The Holy Spirit has to move on a person and open their heart as happened to Lydia in Acts 16:14-15. And faith is a gift of God. Philippians 1:29.
@@mr.jollybear5180Yes Jesus' crucifixion was predetermined. Acts 2:23. And Judas was marked out to betray Jesus. John17:12, and in Acts 1:15-18. I am sorry. I thought u said Calvinist not no- Calvinist
God chose me and I co-operated with His grace. I repented of my sin and put my faith in Jesus. I chose Jesus of my own free will, God didn't force me. God bless
So, man can choose for his salvation and can also reject if he wants to? God has no power to save those He has chosen? All mankind are doomed to death. The wages of sin is death but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus our Lord. God chooses some to be saved to show His grace...but to those who are perished, God is not being unjust, but they received the justice for the penalty of their sins.
Death means separation. When the fruit was consumed in the garden, Adam and Eve died. That day. That 24 hour time period. That Yom. Not that millennium. The experienced separation from God. When Rachel died in Genesis 35:18, her soul was departing the body. Physical death means separation of soul from body, spiritual death means separation from God. Dead to sin (Romans 6: 2) means separation from sin (positionally) and is used as motivation for a practical separation from sin for believers who, being dead to sin, are still able to sin.
Arthur Pink is one of my favorite Calvinists because he is willing to "bite the bullet" and own the inescapable conclusions of the system. Were more Calvinists honest like Pink the ideology would have died out long ago IMHO. He chides fellow Calvinists for assigning the spiritually dead as having corpse-like irresponsiveness.
Far too many Calvinists, in their zeal to repudiate the freewillism of Arminians, have at the same time repudiated man’s moral agency; anxious to enforce the utter helplessness of fallen men in spiritual matters, they have virtually reduced him to an irresponsible machine. It has not been sufficiently noted that in the very next verse after the statement “who were dead in trespasses and sins,” the apostle added, “Wherein (i.e. that state of spiritual death) ye WALKED (which a corpse in the grave could not!) according to the course of this world, according to the spirit of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience. Among whom also we all had our conversation (“conduct”) in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind” (Ephesians 2:1-3).
Also, since Eph 2:1 mentions the verb, "quicken," a word search of that verb in Psalm 119 is revealing: "quicken thou me according to thy word....quicken me according to thy judgments." Would it make sense for the so-called Totally depraved to pray, "quicken me..."? How about, "Quicken me according to the gnostic regenerating spark of the effectual call?"
I makes me so angry just listening. Another great video to expose the ridiculousness and blasphemy of Calvinism. It just shows us that it doesn't matter how naturally intelligent a person may be, once he becomes deluded and deceived they cannot see just how illogical and untenable their teachings are, never mind blasphemous and unbiblical.
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@@scott5654 😂
Just like any other religious system they will never admit they are biblically wrong. Three year a ago I came out from this kind of church, dead dead church. I was forced to be in that church being the only one in the area being biblically oriented. I m still praying for them that they will allow the Holy Spirit to move and resurrect them. 🙏🙏🙏
Sounds like you have other issues you ought to commit to prayer.
I’m so grateful to have come across your RUclips Channel! I’m in the process of seeking a church in the Ocala Florida area😅 And plan to be a part of a church community after many years of being hurt in a way from fellowship. I clearly understand Calvinism now after watching several of your videos! Thank you so much😊
Praise the Lord! Thanks for your kind words. I am in Orlando, so it is very nice to hear from another Floridan so close. I hope you find a great church in Ocala. I once heard someone say something close to this... Religious people can be very cruel, unforgiving and selfish, and nobody knows this better than Jesus Christ because it was religious people that had him crucified. Thankfully Jesus Christ loves us all so much that even while we were sinners He died for us. None of us are worthy but due to his great love for us we are made reconciled to God and justified before God with a new born again life because of the finished work of the cross and resurrection of our Savior whom we believe and trust for our salvation.
Please do NOT base Calvinism off of this man's videos. He slanders and misrepresents us constantly. If you would like to know what a calvinist actually believes or teaches then simply ask. Or you could learn a lot from the videos of the person that this man is trying to attack right now. RC Sproul was a very faithful, kind, and loving Pastor/ Teacher of the Bible and theology for decades.
Guys like Brian often try to skew one issue of the Bible and don't look at things from the entire context of the whole Bible.
I don't care if you become a calvinist or not, because that is not what saves you. Christ and Christ alone saves you and He is the center of all our doctrines and theology. Blessings to you as you search for a faithful church and I do hope you find one, but please don't take Brian's word alone over other very good Bible teachers... listen to both and then compare them with the scriptures. ❤
Reformation piggybackers. Consider LCMS there will be some churches around Ocala
@@mikegreene9137 RC ignored the warning of the Holy Spirit when the Lord was trying to warn him Calvinism is bad, I heard his testimony on how he got sucked into Calvinism
Made this comment like 5 times, but i think it kept deleting because i shared my email. lol. hopefully it will stick this time :-0
17:44 "we can turn to the Lord & put our faith in Jesus Christ alone"
We can come to our senses & return to the Father like the prodigal son. I am convinced you & I have the same understanding of the need for "repentance" for salvation, but we use different terminology. You say "turn to the Lord" implying a heart that wants to be reconciled to God. Like the Prodigal wanting to return to the Father. This is what I mean by repentance.
If the son did not desire to come home, he could never be reconciled to God. & Unless we turn to the Lord, we will remain alienated from Him. So we turn back (repentance towards God) , but then are received ONLY because of our "faith in Christ."
I'm convinced we are saying the same thing. I must be very bad at explaining myself. Or maybe it is because much of what I say is polemical against certain errors that it is hard to get my meaning.
Either way, I agree with 17:44 completely, & am not saying anything more than that when I say "repent of rebellion & trust in Christ."
My email is kpdcjakarta at Google mail if you want to be in more contact send me an email & I'll give youy Whatapp & Signal # so we can talk more.
18:21 'he would have stayed in his rebellion..."
So the son turned from rebellion? Interesting 😉
The video I posted today (titled: Is repentance necessary for salvation) was an attempt at clarifying my position for you & others who have had sincere comments below my videos on repentance.
But here I could say, I preach the prodigal son with 1 adjustment & one addition. My adjustment is that the road back to the Father was no longer than "coming to his senses". & my addition is that he was only welcomed back because of the blood of Christ.
Gbu
I'm sorry you had to go through that. I have it set up so RUclips automatically blocks online links and I guess from your experience I just learned that means they also block email addresses too. I'll shoot you an email soon, probably sometime over the weekend or early next week.
Thanks for your added thoughts on repentance above as well. I don't think I saw your latest video you mentioned above that you posted today, but I'll go look for it and watch. God bless you!
“We can turn“.
Jeremiah 31:18 I have surely heard Ephraim bemoaning himself thus; Thou hast chastised me, and I was chastised, as a bullock unaccustomed to the yoke: turn thou me, and I shall be turned; for thou art the LORD my God.
Jeremiah 31:19 Surely after that I was turned, I repented; and after that I was instructed, I smote upon my thigh: I was ashamed, yea, even confounded, because I did bear the reproach of my youth.
What comes out of your mouth is in your heart. When what “you can“ do comes out of your mouth then YOU are in your heart.
Wow. I have never read anything from him and until now, never saw him preach. I don't get why people think he is such a genius. What he is saying sounds very convoluted to me.
Good job illustrating the absurdity of Calvinism!
The wisdom of God is DELIVERED by God's faithful servants which enables sinners to GET "her", and those that EMBRACE her receive faith in Christ Jesus, and by faith, we receive the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost by which we have access to the Father.
Proverbs 2:6
“For the LORD giveth wisdom: out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding.”
Proverbs 24:3
“Through wisdom is an house builded; and by understanding it is established:”
Proverbs 4
7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore GET wisdom: and with all thy GETTING get understanding.
8 Exalt her, and she shall promote thee: she shall BRING thee to honour, when thou dost EMBRACE her.
Ephesians 2:18
“For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.”
"She" brings us faith in Him and He baptizes us with His Spirit, and by His Spirit, we have access to the father...Simple!
Calvinism is an affront to man’s sovereignty.
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The whole Bible is an affront to man sovereignty
@@aletheia8054 and to God be the glory 🙌✝️
Calvinism is an affront to coherence, diligent application, and Jesus . Sola de Gloria
@@truthseeker5698 So is free will.
My brother I have seen churches that have become Calvinistic and basically evangelism seems to stop! They have the attitude it's us four and no more mentality. I'm in so who gives a rip if anybody else is in.Calvinism in so many churches absolutely kills evangelism and it totally breaks my heart and I'm sure the heart of God! Jesus's name priority in coming was to seeks and save that which is lost! If it was his main priority incoming can it be any less ours???
So, verse 26, I'll just throw that in: “And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?” There's a commandment. Jesus said, “Believe this, believe in me.” This is what He's saying. I thought R.C. Sproul said God just makes them believe-irresistible grace forces them to believe. They don't need to come to this belief; they don't need to make a decision; they don't need to be commanded to believe. After all, they can't-they're in total depravity, dead in sins. Dead men don't do anything except walk around after lust and sins and things like that. They can walk around, apparently, according to R.C. Sproul, but if it's anything good, they're dead-they can't do anything. That's what he said.
So, Jesus calls Lazarus out of the tomb, makes him alive again, and that's their picture of salvation, their picture of regeneration. That's not a good picture of it. It's totally wrong. This miracle is like other miracles done by Jesus so that people would believe in Jesus and therefore be saved because they believe in the one that has the power to save them. Not that the believing is the power, right? It's God who has the power. Let's not confuse that.
Let's jump over to Luke 15. I told you we're going to get to something-this is the Prodigal Son story. We're going to start where Jesus starts this parable in verse 11: "A certain man had two sons." I'm going to go through this kind of quickly because so many people know the story so well, but I'll hit the highlights.
The younger son gets the inheritance that he wants in verse 13. Not many days after, the younger son gathered all together, took his journey into a far country, and there wasted his substance-that is, his inheritance-with riotous living. His money's gone, and when he had spent all, there arose a mighty famine in that land, and he began to be in want. He went and joined himself to a citizen of that country, who sent him into his fields to feed swine. Right? He should have gone home already, but instead, when he's in need, he went to the wrong person. He went to a person of that country. It's like the blind leading the blind. He's being taken advantage of now-a Jewish boy in the pigpen. He's looking around and realizes, "These pigs are eating better than I am. I got nothing. I'm in bad shape," right?
Verse 17: "When he came to himself, he said, 'How many hired servants of my father's have bread enough and to spare, and I perish with hunger! I will arise and go to my father and will say unto him, Father, I have sinned against heaven and before thee, and am no more worthy to be called thy son. Make me as one of thy hired servants.' And he arose and came to his father. But when he was yet a great way off, his father saw him and had compassion, ran, fell on his neck, and kissed him." The son said to him, "Father, I have sinned against heaven and in thy sight, and am no more worthy to be called thy son." But the father said to his servants, "Bring forth the best robe and put it on him, and put a ring on his hand and shoes on his feet, and bring hither the fatted calf and kill it, and let us eat and be merry. For this my son was dead and is alive again; he was lost and is found." And they began to be merry.
All right, so, by the way, he says it one more time when he goes out to the not-so-happy older son in the field. The older son was angry and would not go in. Therefore, his father came out and said in verse 32: "It was meet that we should make merry and be glad. For this thy brother was dead and is alive again, and was lost and is found." Once again, you have this dead made alive and so forth. There's the picture of that.
This story makes no sense when you look at the Calvinist doctrines of grace and their picture of regeneration-of faith being that faith comes after regeneration as opposed to faith coming first. Now, this person, by faith, knew, "If I go back to the father, I can at least be a hired hand." He wasn't even looking to be fully restored and redeemed. But thank God, praise the Lord, when we are sinners in rebellion, we can turn to the Lord, put our faith and trust in Jesus Christ alone, and we become fully redeemed, restored, and adopted into God's family. It is amazing, and that's the picture of God the Father doing that for this son.
Notice the father, unlike the Calvinist description of how this should work. The father should have gone to the other country because the son, in a state of deadness-remember, he's dead, made alive-had no ability to come to his senses and return home. He would have stayed there, as bad as it got. He would have continued in his rebellion because he's a totally depraved person who has no ability to respond positively to the father, to God, to the gospel, whatever. This, you know, the analogy.
So, the father, in this case, to be Calvinistic, should have gone to the other country, grabbed that son right out of the pigpen as he's struggling, saying, "No, no, no, not me. I'm in rebellion," and he should have cleaned him off anyway: "No, no, no, you're being irresistible grace. You're being forced to be cleaned up here. I'm going to restore you. I'm going to redeem you," as this person is saying, "No, I don't want that. I'm happy here in the pigpen. I don't want to go home to the father." The father drags him all the way home, puts that robe on him, puts the ring on, and says, "We're gonna have a fatted calf." Upon full completion of this restoration of the son, only then does the son realize, "Oh yeah, this is where I want to be. Thank you. Ah, I'm so grateful. My gratitude is overflowing by the fact that when I was in my rebellion, you ripped me clean out of that. I give you all the glory for having done that because I never could have come to my senses on my own and realized that at least I can walk-I can at least turn back to the father." And the Father, who is gracious and merciful, will redeem us through the Son, Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior, who loves us so much.
Question: can God learn?
No, the answer is, no, God cannot learn. Therefore, God knows who will go to heaven and who will go to hell. If God is all powerful, and he knows who will end up in hell, and yet he creates them and allows them to live their life anyway.
When Adam was told that he would die if he took of the fruit and ate it, did he die? Yes and no. He did not die physically and therefore he must have died spiritually.
And therefore, all of his descendants were born dead in their trespasses and sins. Dead people can’t do anything good, they can do other things, bad things. But they can’t do any good things. This is clearly taught by the Scriptures.
Scott, God cannot learn because he is omniscient and above time. All-powerful means he is sovereign and declares the end from the beginning. It means he can do as he pleases. That's all. Where the Calvinist goes wrong is conflating 'knowing' and 'causing'. They are two separate things. Just because God knows everything (omniscient) and will bring about his purposes (omnipotent) in the end, does not mean he has to cause every detail and action. It's a non-sequitur.
Spiritual 'dead' in the Bible does NOT mean you can only do bad things but not good things. Spiritually dead people do many good things, including thinking and responding.
The Prodigal Son did a series of bad things. Then he thought about his situation and changed his mind! That's biblical repentance - metanoia.
Notice, in his still spiritually 'dead' state, he did a GOOD THING, voluntarily humbled himself, and returned home. This very good and wise action did not save him though, not even a tiny little bit. His Father saved him 100%. For example, he could have had him stoned to death. He could have made him a slave for the rest of his life. But in his overwhelming unmerited grace he granted him a full sonship. Then he declared his son was dead but NOW he was alive. He was lost but NOW he was found.
Lost and dead does not mean you cannot think and make decisions regarding God. The bible is a revelation from God, he loved us and died for us while we were still sinners and his enemies. (That's of course everybody, right?) He loved humanity first. We were called to respond to God's means- his Son, the cross, Spirit inspired Scriptures, apostles, preachers sent....respond in conviction, humble ourselves, and believe. That is all we can do. Faith is not work.
Question for you: If I cannot SAVE myself, does that equally mean that I cannot RESPOND IN FAITH and confess that I am a sinner in need of a Saviour?
Question 2: Since Calvinists believe the Holy Spirit must 'regenerate' you and 'give you faith' before you can believe, how come God 'forgot' to have the most important character in the Prodigal Son representing the Holy Spirit dragging him home against his will? I would imagine it would be powerful messengers with ropes, or a town police with handcuffs?
God can learn.
@@freakylocz14
Wrong. God cannot learn because God is omniscient.
@@scott5654 That's true, but there are things God does not know.
@@freakylocz14
The Bible clearly teaches that God is omniscient and therefore CANNOT learn.
It's so ridiculous, the whole doctrinal system of Calvinism. But what's really offensive in this thing, before I get on with the teaching, is that "for God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth on Him shall not perish but have everlasting life." Think about that. How much did God love us? The Bible talks about an agape love. It means beyond our comprehension-this kind of love for His creation. Jesus Christ, the Eternal God, co-equal part of the Godhead, leaves His place in heaven to come down and become one of us, His own creation. I mean, you know the story. God, He lived and showed us without sin, with mercy and kindness, healing everyone and helping everybody, and still being rejected by so many who would not believe. They believed later, right? But anyway, He was rejected by His own kind. And ultimately, we know the story-He freely gave Himself upon the cross as a substitutionary sacrifice for all of our sins. Even in the midst of the humiliation, having been whipped and crowned with thorns, nailed hands and feet to the cross, humiliated in front of people, He says, "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do." What kind of love is that? And he belittles it to wooing and enticing.
The gospel story, the power of God, the gospel is the power of God unto salvation, and he's belittling that to something you would equate to like a teenage crush, you know, whispering in the ear, wooing like some kind of puppy love thing going on. That's silly and immature. That's what he thinks of the extent of love that was displayed by our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ on the cross for us. I mean, I am just amazed at that. I almost have to listen to that again.
“And just, I mean, and say, come on, God just comes right up to you and woos you, entices you, encourages you, whispers into the ears of a deaf man.”
Come on, really? What more could God do but to send His only Son, Jesus Christ, into the world to die for us? There's no greater love than that, the Bible says. And he talks about it as if believing in that on your own is some kind of fake faith, not generated by God. They say faith has to be a gift given to you by God because they don't know how to read Ephesians 2. We are saved by grace through faith, not of yourselves-it's a gift of God. The gift! Hello! He talks about this later in a video, I remember this. Boy, he says the gift is faith. No, the gift is grace, right? Look in the Bible and try to find a place where the gift of God is faith-it's not there. They twist that one verse because it so clearly matches what's elsewhere in the Bible: the gift of God is grace, which is eternal life. It says that elsewhere, that grace is the gift. It's the free gift through belief in Jesus.
Anyway, all right, I get angry when I hear people who belittle and diminish our Lord Jesus Christ, and nobody does it better than Calvinists. I mean, within the Christian circles anyway, nobody does it better to diminish who Jesus was, who He is, who He came to save, and the gospel, than Calvinists. They're the best at diminishing it-it's horrific. Outside of that, you pretty much have to get into atheistic circles to find people more offensive.
So, anyway, let me jump over to what he said. The best example of being dead in sins made alive in Christ is Lazarus. Let's go take a look at that story. Let me tee that up here. All right, starting at the top, I'm just gonna hit the main points.
“Now a certain man was sick named Lazarus of Bethany, the town of Mary and her sister Martha.” Who remembers Mary and Martha? Jesus was there teaching, Mary was sitting at His feet, Martha was complaining that Mary should be helping her around the house, and Jesus said, “No, no, she has chosen the best part, it won't be taken from her.” So, anyway, we all know the story. Well, that's Lazarus-he's part of this. These are all people who know each other.
It says here in verse 5, “Now Jesus loved Martha and her sister and Lazarus.” This isn't like “for God so loved the world” kind of love. This is just His friend, just like Mary. He loved them through a personal relationship, being in close proximity. We're not talking about God's love from above down on all people equally-we're talking about a personal relationship. Unfortunately, Lazarus is sick, and Jesus doesn't go to them right away. He tells the disciples that He's with before He goes to the town, “Our friend Lazarus sleepeth.” They didn't get the message, so He clarifies it here in verse 14, “Then said Jesus unto them plainly, Lazarus is dead.” Look at verse 15: “And I am glad for your sake that I was not there.” What a wild statement to say, right? For someone who's His friend, whom He loves. But listen, there's a purpose behind this: “to the intent that you may believe.” Nevertheless, let us go unto him.
Jesus Himself-not just the Gospel of John at the end-clarifies that the things Jesus did that are miraculous are written in the end of chapter 20 and the final chapter 21 of the Gospel of John. At the very end, in both chapters, it ends by saying there are so many signs, wonders, and miracles that Jesus did in the presence of the disciples. It says at the end of chapter 20 that what's written in this book, this Gospel of John, is written so that you might believe and have life in His name.
And Jesus here Himself is telling the disciples that He's going there, right? It's good, oddly enough, as strange as it sounds, that Lazarus is dead, because something's about to happen so that people would believe in Him. Not so He can treat them like He treats a physically dead person like Lazarus when He gets there and bring them all back to life regardless of their input, ideas, or thoughts, but He's doing this so that they would witness and believe. It's incredible.
Thank you Brian for these videos. I was in 2 reformed churches for about 34 years. I never understood why I saw the Bible so differently until a few years ago when the pastor preached on Romans 9-11. Calvinism was rarely highlighted but when he said if you don’t believe in predestination you might what to consider whether you are saved or not I was taken back. This set me on a multi month study to understand predestination and the Calvinists view of the sovereignty of God. I began to see how Calvinism ends up being a lens through which every part of Scripture is interpreted and understood. It was so freeing to finally see where the disconnect was and that I wasn’t crazy, like I had often felt. I wish the various pastors I had been under all those years would have just been up front with what they believed. I am now in a non denominational, spirit filled church and it feels like coming home.
@@paulpowell6418 That's not true.
@Monika Hyvnarova
The Ordo Salutis is a logical progression, not a temporal progression. You need regeneration in order to do anything pleasing to God, i.e. repent and believe.
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@Paul Powell
"You guys?" I'm Reformed, Paul. I'm not in Brian's semi/full Pelagian camp at all.
I am a Calvinist. No one should have ever questioned your salvation. You can be wrong on this and still be elect :). I have preached more than once that believing in the doctrine of Election does not mean that one is "elect." One must make their "calling and election sure."
@@paulpowell6418 apparently not. If regeneration precedes faith then it is an act of God, not man. I think he is confused on what Calvinism actually teaches. Sadly, I doubt he has read Calvin's Institutes.
Great message. I fail too understand why people accept the analogy where an apple, a physically dead petson, is being compared to an orange, a spiritually dead person🤪.
Personally I,do not believe faith is a gift. If it was, then it would be GOD,s faith not mine. Because of his faith, Abraham was counted as righteous. Love your videos, Brian.
When Paul was blinded by Jesus he had free will to go get his sight back. He has to make a choice of FAITH...and he did just that! 👍
this is not happened to me his love gave me hope in my moment of hopelessness
was it you the open your eyes or God?
I have no problem with "wooing" language. God's history with humanity is full of wooing.
What's ironic is that Sproul didn't believe in divine persuasion... ie "wooing", but irresistible grace, ie: compulsion.
I think if Jesus taught Calvinism, the Bible would've displayed it without any ambiguity;
"The sun beat down mercilessly on the dusty road leading to Capernaum. The disciples, weary from their journey, trudged behind Jesus, a disquiet settling upon them. He had spoken vaguely for days, pronouncements riddled with riddles about a narrow gate and a coming tribulation.
They reached a grove of olive trees, their meager shade a welcome respite. Peter, ever the impulsive one, finally broke the silence. "Master," he began, voice laced with concern, "you speak of a narrow gate, a path few will tread. But where does it lead? What awaits us at the end?"
Jesus turned, his gaze distant. "The Father," he said, his voice flat, "has woven the tapestry of fate. Each thread, each life, each choice, each thought, predetermined in His grand design. Some are chosen to walk the straight path, others… well, their course is already set for the Lake of Fire, according to His Sovereign Will, by which no one can twart."
A tremor of fear ran through the disciples. John, the youngest, piped up, "But Master, what of our choices? Do we have no free will?"
A humorless smile flickered across Jesus' face. "Free will? A comforting idol & illusion, John. We dance to the tune the Father's plays. Some are destined for the light, others for the abyss for the good pleasure of His will to glorify Himself. It is not for us to question."
Matthew, the tax collector turned disciple, sputtered in protest. "But Master, you've spoken of changing hearts, of redemption! If all is predetermined, what is the point of our endeavors?"
Jesus' smile widened, this time devoid of warmth. "The point, dear Matthew, these are MEANS, you play your part, according to His immutable decree. The Father finds amusement in our struggles, a cosmic theatre where He observes the dance of the predestined, for His glory."
A cold dread gripped the disciples. Peter, his face pale, found his voice. "Master, if all of our choices are predetermined by God & our future is sealed… then… then what hope do we have?"
Jesus' laughter echoed through the grove, a chilling sound devoid of joy. "Hope? A fleeting comfort, Peter. A trinket for the simpleminded. The tapestry is already woven. Your only choice is to accept your place in His glorious, grand design."
The disciples huddled together, their faces reflecting a crushing despair. The hope that had fueled their journey, the dream of a new kingdom, seemed to evaporate in the harsh desert wind. Jesus watched them, a dark amusement dancing in his eyes.
As the sun dipped below the horizon, casting long shadows, Jesus turned. "Come," he said, his voice cold. "We must continue. The Father's sovereign will & cosmic play never ends."
He walked on, leaving the disciples behind, their hope stolen, replaced by a suffocating sense of predestination. The narrow path they once envisioned with excitement now stretched before them, a bleak and desolate road."
In Calvinism, nothing happens other than what God decrees. The number of those to be saved, & to be damned is fixed.
Saying a rejection of total depravity is the biggest threat to Christianity may be the most self-refuting statement I’ve ever heard… it’s essentially saying “If only people would accept that they can’t possibly believe the gospel unless God unconditionally and irresistibly forces them to, then…” then what? Then they’d believe the gospel? Then Christianity would grow? Think about that for a minute. If they only accepted that they can’t believe, then they’d believe. What?
That’s the problem with Calvinism. They blame it all on God. If Calvinism were true (it’s not), then the only reason they reject the gospel is because God made them that way and therefore God himself would be the biggest threat to Christianity.
For the life of me, I don’t understand why intelligent men like John Macarthur and RC Sproul unplug their brains and throw them out the window when it comes to Calvinism.
I have friends who only believe what Sproul says. If he doesn’t endorse it, they won’t even listen to it. Bizarre. Personally I’ve never found Sproul appealing.
If I was not dead, I mean spiritually dead, I mean dead in my trespasses and sins, and then I was given “Grace“ and I then did something that ended up causing me to be saved, then congratulations to me. Even if it’s only 1% then I should be congratulated because I contributed 1% toward my salvation. So, therefore it’s not “all” glory to God, it’s most of the glory to God and some of the glory to me.
😂 Don't worry, you are. But since you are listening to sound biblical channel, there is hope. Tongue in cheek.
Scott, you just described Arminianism.
@@solideogloria6569
Exactly 👍🏻
What's wrong with congratulations from one to another for making the right choice?
You ‘were’ spiritually dead, but you still have a soul and body. The soul consists of the mind, will and emotions. The ‘dead’ make choices every day. Believing is an act of the will and we all have the capacity to believe. God gives all a measure a faith and has revealed Himself through creation (Rom 1) and our conscience (Rom 2). We suppress the truth and prefer darkness, rather than coming to the light. That’s what the Bible teaches. Exercised faith comes before regeneration. Calvinism is as dead as Lazarus.
It's important to remember that when Calvinists point to Eph 2:8 and say faith is a gift, what they MEAN is the _volitional act of trusting in Christ for salvation is a gift._ Everyone agrees that the ability to have faith in anything at all is a gift. Everyone believes that the opportunity to have faith in Christ is a gift and so [faith in Christ] in that sense is a gift. Everyone knows scripture talks about faith as a Spiritual gift given in various measures _to believers._
A normal reading of that verse is that salvation is a gift of God, and it is through faith, not by works. The gift refers to salvation, not to faith.
Keep up the good work brother. Pls make more videos to expose calvinism. Would u also explain more on jn 6 n how do we come around this
So this is where the Joel Osteen crowd hangs out.
LOL, No prosperity gospel or Joel Osteen crowd here! But I certainly get plenty of heretic Calvinist cult members getting offended by the truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ who love to comment on each video.
Loved your video. Thanks for show us the truth of the word. I love that you keep the video talk simple. Here a question I love to see Calvinist answer. How does Calvinist explain the story of Saul/Paul.
@Douglas Dennis
Perhaps you may explain why you think Paul's conversion presents any problem to Reformed Theology. The only difference between Paul's conversion and anyone else's, is that Paul had already been chosen to be the Apostle to the Gentiles, whereas others were given no such specific commission.
@4theLAMBS
There is no theological system mentioned in the Bible, so your remark about Reformed Theology applies to all forms of systematic theology.
I read and study the Bible every day, because by doing so I grow in knowing the Father and the Son, I progress in sanctification, and am by this means, thanks to the grace and power of the Holy Spirit, more and more delivered from the power of sin.
Good question! One Calvinist (Redmane) has answered your question with a question and no answer at all. You won't find a Calvinist actually answers this while telling the truth in accordance with Scripture because Paul got saved consistent with how he explained it in Romans 10. A preacher must be sent by God to tell the Gospel to unbelievers. That is the essence and clear message of what Paul wrote in Romans 10. Ananias was sent by God to minister to Paul days after the road to Damascus in which Paul encountered Jesus and was blinded. The story is told 3 different times in Acts. One account makes it clear that Paul was converted when Ananias ministered to him and then the scales fell off his eyes, and Paul could see again and he was converted at that time, not before on the road to Damascus.
I think some Calvinists would like us to believe that Jesus chose Saul/Paul for salvation but the proof in Scripture is that Paul was chosen for a purpose, to be an Apostle to the Gentiles. Paul was not saved on the road to Damascus but nothing is impossible with God and Jesus is God so why should it be so shocking that Jesus intercepted Saul the Pharisee on that road? Was it for salvation only or for that bigger purpose that builds God's Kingdom among Gentiles? It is a simple question with a clear answer Scripture gives us.
Here is another simple question I have... how many Christians do you know that got saved like Paul if he was saved on the road to Damascus? Answer... Nobody! I know nobody with a similar story and I know lots of born again Christians. This story is unique and wonderful but in no way are we to preach that this is how God saves people. Now, how many people do you know that heard a minister of God preach the Gospel to them and they believed it, and the grace of God was given to them and suddenly they were transformed, and though they were blinded by the sins in their life, suddenly they could see clearly those sins and they repented and lifted up praise and glory to our Lord Jesus Christ for having saved them from their sins and the wages of sin which is death and hell? Yep, I know lots of Christians like that... yep, everyone of them in fact.
@Faith on Fire
Let's not forget that Paul was very consistent, and wrote much in Romans about election/predestination, and the inability of unregenerate men to do things pleasing to God (Romans 8:6-8). I'm not going to argue against your interpretation regarding Paul's conversion, that's the way you like it, you're welcome to it. I will just note that Paul was entirely obedient to Christ after encountering Him on the road, and such obedience *is* pleasing to God.
But when God, who had set me apart even from my mother’s womb and called me through His grace, was pleased to reveal His Son in me so that I might preach Him among the Gentiles, I did not immediately consult with flesh and blood, nor did I go up to Jerusalem to those who were apostles before me; but I went away to Arabia, and returned once more to Damascus.
Galatians 1:15-17 (NASB1995
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My Dear when I heard his story about his dog he had for many years that my question was if this man had the holy spirit than he would know what to do. I knew that if I was in his shoes I would handle it better.
People need to follow Jesus not John Calvin
Yes and they need to follow Jesus and not free will
Definitely! We don't want to do as the Corinthian church was doing by saying, "I follow Paul" or "I follow Apollos." Of course, Calvinists are not claiming to follow John Calvin by merely using the nickname "Calvinism." Calvinism simply means the set of doctrines expressed in the Canons of Dort. We can search the Scriptures and see if those doctrines are supported by Scripture or not. But it should be stated plainly: Calvinism does not mean "follower of John Calvin."
@@aletheia8054Jesus understood fully that man can choose to believe
@@laserfalcon John 15:16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.
@@aletheia8054 So you take a self centered view of this verse and think the ye refers to you ?
You think chosen means God chose to save you personally?
What did God choose these for ?
Its not salvation.
To whom was Jesus speaking to?
The disciples was he not and yet one (Judas) was a devil. Clearly not chosen for salvation. Jesus isn't speaking to you or me in 2024. Jesus in context is speaking to the disciples clearly.
Don't be deceived by Calvinist false teaching.
Hey brother i would just respectfully point out that sounds to me like your making category errors, misrepresenting the arguments and positions that are being presented. I would analyze that a little more. God bless!
@carlos vences
Exactly correct, Carlos. And it's very sad to see so many people unable to think categorically.
@Carlos vences You are very descerning brother..It doesn't take a lot to descern his ingenuity and false representation of what RC was alluding to
😂 why.. then Would ANYONE ..BE a missionary.. calvinisum is EVIL...
Great video brother, calvinism is a big fat lie! However, I would disagree with your interpretation of the parable of the two sons. I believe the son was already saved (as he is the son of his father from the very beginning), and that this is a parable about fellowship with God. If we backslide into sin, we squander our eternal rewards (inheritance) in this life, which is what the son did. And if we go off into sin, we do not break our sonship to our father, but we do fall out of fellowship. When the son comes to his senses and returns (confessing his sin, see 1 John), fellowship with his father is immediately restored. Any thoughts?
You make great points and that very well may be the right interpretation. What makes me believe this is a story of a son who was never saved before returning home was that the Father said twice that his son was lost but now found, dead but is alive again. It seems to be talking about being spiritually lost and dead in sins and then being made alive in Christ when he came home. We are all born into the world once, dead in sins and lost, and some of us later become born again and saved.
The son was not portrayed in the beginning of the story as being a perfect son or the picture of a true believer, but then slipped wanting to go off into the world backsliding. It begins with him asking for his inheritance and he goes off with no apparent sense that what he was doing was so sinful or destructive. That is the picture of someone lost, not backsliding. You could definitely be right about the inheritance being eternal rewards in heaven, but then why did the Father restore him and bestow rewards upon the son (robe, ring, fatted calf and a party).
I think the inheritance is about the good things God gives us just because we are alive on this planet, and so many often begin to squander God's gifts, blessings and our prosperity on things of this world that please the flesh. That view drastically changes when we are born again and desire to use our life and our blessings and even our struggles to somehow exalt Jesus Christ and glorify Him.
@Faith On Fire I definitely see your side here, and there is application to what you are saying, however, I don't think that it quite fits the main intent of the parable for a few reasons.
When the son returned, he did not regain his inheritance, remember at the end, when the older son is upset, the father tells the older son that all he (the father) has is his (the older sons). This relates back to the story of Esau and how he squandered his inheritance and could not regain it, though he sought it with tears. What the prodigal son does get is restored fellowship and a party. Secondly, when you are out of fellowship with someone, to you, they are dead and lost. I have five brothers, and the oldest is the one that abandoned us. We have been out of fellowship With him for many years, so to our family it is as though he is dead and lost. We never see him, nor hear from him. But I know for a fact that all my brothers and my parents long for him to return, and we would gladly restore fellowship if he ever chose to return. And I can tell you this, my parents are happy to see all of us, but there would be a great day of rejoicing if my oldest brother came back (more joy over one sinner that repents). Lastly, I would say that interpreting this parable as one about salvation has the potential of introducing "repenting of sins" as part of the Gospel. But we don't receive eternal life because we repent of our sins, we recieve eternal life by belief in Christ (i.e., recieve sonship by virtue of the new birth). Repenting of sins is an ongoing, lifelong endeavor. Hope that helps. Again, thanks for the video and all your videos, I have been enjoying them 👍.
Hmmm. You make a very compelling case for your point of view. I think you are right. I can't argue with that reasoning. Thanks for sharing. Iron sharpens iron. God bless you!
@Faith On Fire your humility is refreshing bro! And yes, iron sharpens iron, keep making videos 👍.
Just mind-blowing how some coments are that RC is a false teacher when you havent really properly listehed to his whole sermon.Uust a shame.
I’m quite familiar with his sermons, as are many other people who rightfully recognized that he was a false teacher. The Bible often warns us of men like him who crept in and taught damnable heresies.
It does seem to be a red flag whenever somebody belittles something to make their point. When I see that, I often begin to think a man might have a bias, or at least he despises something and begins to make some fun of it, and I can understand people doing that sometimes when they see something evil, but not all things are evil, are they? I'm @ 8:14 in here. It's good that we practice discernment.
I was just reading from Job where Elihu talks about what would happen if God were to gather unto him his Spirit and his breath, all flesh would perish, and I thought about animal life too. Even though I don't remember reading anywhere that God "breathed into animals the breath of life", they do have a life very much like, and yet a bit different than man has life.
Every animal has it's own personality. Pet owners know this. If you get a cat or dog, you never know what you are going to get, but even as they are so similar to people in many regards, animal life also has some differences. It's not all the same as man's life. Then I begin to think about the matter of a soul, the soul of man. I'm not sure, but I think that could also be referred to as the spirit of a man. If not the same, it's very close in relation seems to me.
I've often thought about how men often value truth and hunger for it. People often esteem truth as being valuable, and it is. God is able to communicate with men by his Spirit, which is so close to their mind or soul at times. I've heard it said that the soul of man is like a bridge to the Spirit of God, or the things of God that can come to us by his Spirit.
Words can convey ideas that seem to have real substance, when that substance is truth. Truth seems to have real substance, though it is in the realm of the Spirit, seems to me. We might at times say "There is nothing to what this man says." or "There is little to what this man says." or "There is so much in what this man says." and I believe it's dependent on the truth he speaks and our ability to recognize it and value it, to purchase it in our hearts as a thing of value, sometimes of great value, and by this means we may access something of the kingdom of God.
You are lost when it comes to deep Bible study.
You can't please everyone. I just read my Bible and do the best I can.
@@faithonfireministriesand you do well from the two videos I’ve seen of yours.
I do believe you’ve earned my follow.
Actually being dead in sin means that you are unable to come to God. Repent of this. Im not saying non calvinists are lost, but it is a serious error look!!! look up voddie bacham Gospel in 4 minutes on youtube. its an amazing presentation of the Gospel. repent and trust alone in Jesus Christ to be saved!!!
You got it all wrong because you trusted what you heard from some unregenerate religious elitists rather than reading the Bible for yourself. Your advice at the end is great but your comment proves to me you never did that. You trust in men and their stupid man-made Calvinism doctrines and you are willing to defend it despite the Scriptures and your own advice to trust in Jesus Christ. Wake up and do that and if you ever do, you will certainly be led by the Holy Spirit to walk away from Voddie Bacham and the rest of the promoters of that false gospel of election and those who have a devilish adherence to that fake religious movement, Calvinism.
@@faithonfireministries People should walk away from Calvinism just like they should walk away from freewill.
They blame God for everything even the evil in the world
My question is, what is their purpose for their interpretation?
Not all those who say Lord Lord shall enter my kingdom
Only those who do my Fathers
Will!
Did we not do great things in your name o Lord!
I believe that Rom. 2:4 tells us that “the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance.”. Then also Jn. 6:4 Jesus said “No man can come to me, except the father which hath sent me draw him…”. In both of these verses it seems very clear that God is not commanding someone to get saved, but rather He is wooing them to come to Him. Then it is man’s choice as to what the will do.
If "Dead in Sin" meant what Calvinists seem to think it means, no one could do anything at all including sin.
Actually being dead in sin means you are unable to grab the things of God!!! look up voddie bacham Gospel in 4 minutes on youtube. its an amazing presentation of the Gospel. repent and trust alone in Jesus Christ to be saved!!!
@@jarbinks5 What if God has Sovereignly and Unchangeably decreed, from before the foundation of the world, that I would never become a Calvinist?
You see, the problem with the Reformed understanding of repentance is that God Ordains all things which come to pass (a non-biblical view of Sovereignty).
If God did not ordain for me to repent, I cannot repent any more than a dead man can pick himself up.
What am I supposed to do if God eternally and unchangeably ordained for me not to be a Calvinist? Even better, what if I told you that I'm about 100% certain that He did?
So glad for yours and other channels challenging this which really is another gospel.
When I was a new believer mid -80's I was open minded to learning about the LORD and His ways, but oy vey! So many conflicting voices! At Calvary Chapel I received a foundation in the Word of God, but TBN was new to television and the prosperity gospel preachers sure vexed my spirit, meanwhile I'd hear RC Sproul on the radio and the things he taught burdened and confused me.
Brian, I used to watch RC Sproul on the John Ankerberg show in the early 80s. I realize now - many years later - that he is a "Calvinist Theologian" (a misnomer), but I wonder also if Ankerberg is Calvinist. It's amazing how they use every passage in the scriptures possible, to tout their false doctrines, to include the death and raising from the dead of Lazarus by Jesus, that Sproul believed lent toward Calvinism. I definitely enjoyed your corrective teaching vid! 👍✝
Much appreciated James! Thanks for sharing. By the way, I have been watching and liking all your videos so thanks for keeping up with new content so often. I look forward to each new video you put out. I wish I could find more time to make more videos because I have a long list of topics I'd like to cover, just not enough free time to record them.
By the way, I don't know when I would do this but if in the future at some point I were to mention some channels I like and can recommend to people, would you be okay if I mentioned your channel? I'm assuming so, but I wanted to ask first just to be sure.
@@faithonfireministries Yes Brian, I would of course appreciate a mention of my channel by you. I have mentioned yours a few times over the about 135 videos of mine and I will do so more as I go along. I will also link to you in my vid descriptions at times. Thanks much brother! ✝
In mocking tone Sproul asks, around the 5:25 mark, "Does God just come right up to you and woo you, c'mon, entice you, encourage you, whispers into the ears of a deaf man, come on..."
One gets the impression from Calvnists that "pleading with sinners" is beneath their all-powerful, omnipotent, self-glorifying, but not quite all-loving, caricature of deity.
Verses from Jeremiah 2 are shared, "Wherefore I will yet PLEAD with you, saith the LORD, and with your children's children will I PLEAD." "Yet thou sayest, Because I am innocent, surely his anger shall turn from me. Behold, I will PLEAD with thee, because thou sayest, I have not sinned."
Also consider the NT passage with an offer of mercy that apparently can be resisted:
"All day long I have stretched forth my hands unto a disobedient and gainsaying people."
Jeremiah 19:9 And I will cause them to eat the flesh of their sons and the flesh of their daughters, and they shall eat every one the flesh of his friend in the siege and straitness, wherewith their enemies, and they that seek their lives, shall straiten them.
Excellent point! Thanks for sharing the Scripture references. God bless you!
I think you might want to read Jeremiah chapter 2 again. God isn’t begging Israel.
@William Marinelli
So that you may learn to cease excising verses from their context, and twisting them like pretzels to suit yourself, here is the entire 2nd chapter of Jeremiah which in its plain reading will utterly refute your eisegesis.
Moreover the word of the Lord came to me, saying, “Go and cry in the hearing of Jerusalem, saying, ‘Thus says the Lord: “I remember you, The kindness of your youth, The love of your betrothal, When you went after Me in the wilderness, In a land not sown. Israel was holiness to the Lord, The firstfruits of His increase. All that devour him will offend; Disaster will come upon them,” says the Lord.’ ” Hear the word of the Lord, O house of Jacob and all the families of the house of Israel. Thus says the Lord: “What injustice have your fathers found in Me, That they have gone far from Me, Have followed idols, And have become idolaters? Neither did they say, ‘Where is the Lord, Who brought us up out of the land of Egypt, Who led us through the wilderness, Through a land of deserts and pits, Through a land of drought and the shadow of death, Through a land that no one crossed And where no one dwelt?’ I brought you into a bountiful country, To eat its fruit and its goodness. But when you entered, you defiled My land And made My heritage an abomination. The priests did not say, ‘Where is the Lord?’ And those who handle the law did not know Me; The rulers also transgressed against Me; The prophets prophesied by Baal, And walked after things that do not profit. “Therefore I will yet bring charges against you,” says the Lord, “And against your children’s children I will bring charges. For pass beyond the coasts of Cyprus and see, Send to Kedar and consider diligently, And see if there has been such a thing. Has a nation changed its gods, Which are not gods? But My people have changed their Glory For what does not profit. Be astonished, O heavens, at this, And be horribly afraid; Be very desolate,” says the Lord. “For My people have committed two evils: They have forsaken Me, the fountain of living waters, And hewn themselves cisterns-broken cisterns that can hold no water. “Is Israel a servant? Is he a homeborn slave? Why is he plundered? The young lions roared at him, and growled; They made his land waste; His cities are burned, without inhabitant. Also the people of Noph and Tahpanhes Have broken the crown of your head. Have you not brought this on yourself, In that you have forsaken the Lord your God When He led you in the way? And now why take the road to Egypt, To drink the waters of Sihor? Or why take the road to Assyria, To drink the waters of the River? Your own wickedness will correct you, And your backslidings will rebuke you. Know therefore and see that it is an evil and bitter thing That you have forsaken the Lord your God, And the fear of Me is not in you,” Says the Lord God of hosts. “For of old I have broken your yoke and burst your bonds; And you said, ‘I will not transgress,’ When on every high hill and under every green tree You lay down, playing the harlot. Yet I had planted you a noble vine, a seed of highest quality. How then have you turned before Me Into the degenerate plant of an alien vine? For though you wash yourself with lye, and use much soap, Yet your iniquity is marked before Me,” says the Lord God. “How can you say, ‘I am not polluted, I have not gone after the Baals’? See your way in the valley; Know what you have done: You are a swift dromedary breaking loose in her ways, A wild donkey used to the wilderness, That sniffs at the wind in her desire; In her time of mating, who can turn her away? All those who seek her will not weary themselves; In her month they will find her. Withhold your foot from being unshod, and your throat from thirst. But you said, ‘There is no hope. No! For I have loved aliens, and after them I will go.’ “As the thief is ashamed when he is found out, So is the house of Israel ashamed; They and their kings and their princes, and their priests and their prophets, Saying to a tree, ‘You are my father,’ And to a stone, ‘You gave birth to me.’ For they have turned their back to Me, and not their face. But in the time of their trouble They will say, ‘Arise and save us.’ But where are your gods that you have made for yourselves? Let them arise, If they can save you in the time of your trouble; For according to the number of your cities Are your gods, O Judah. “Why will you plead with Me? You all have transgressed against Me,” says the Lord. “In vain I have chastened your children; They received no correction. Your sword has devoured your prophets Like a destroying lion. “O generation, see the word of the Lord! Have I been a wilderness to Israel, Or a land of darkness? Why do My people say, ‘We are Lords; We will come no more to You’? Can a virgin forget her ornaments, Or a bride her attire? Yet My people have forgotten Me days without number. “Why do you beautify your way to seek love? Therefore you have also taught The wicked women your ways. Also on your skirts is found The blood of the lives of the poor innocents. I have not found it by secret search, But plainly on all these things. Yet you say, ‘Because I am innocent, Surely His anger shall turn from me.’ Behold, I will plead My case against you, Because you say, ‘I have not sinned.’ Why do you gad about so much to change your way? Also you shall be ashamed of Egypt as you were ashamed of Assyria. Indeed you will go forth from him With your hands on your head; For the Lord has rejected your trusted allies, And you will not prosper by them.
Jeremiah 2:1-37 (NKJV
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@@redmane_0725 I'll bite. If you wish to share what the verb "plead" communicates in these two verses, please feel free:
""Wherefore I will yet PLEAD with you, saith the LORD, and with your children's children will I PLEAD." "Yet thou sayest, Because I am innocent, surely his anger shall turn from me. Behold, I will PLEAD with thee, because thou sayest, I have not sinned.""
Use the immediate context, or the entire book of the prophet, if you like. I'm in listen mode. If you make a good point, I'll give credit out loud. If it's pieno di sterco, I'll say nothing, smile, take my seat, fasten my seatbelt and watch the movie.
Eph 2:8 doesnt say through faith, there is a definite article in the Greek, through the faith, it is singular so not translated your faith.
Impressive videocast. Christians get led astray because they don't understand, that the biblical truths they hear when a Calvinist teaches, are the times they're lying to you, and not sharing what they actually believe.
This guy has debated absolutely nobody lol
@Nathan Whalen
And it's a good thing he hasn't debated anyone. Brian would disgrace himself in a debate.
Neither has John MacArthur and Justin Peters. For that matter, I don't know any well known Calvinist who has debated anyone with an opposing view except James White and Jeff Durbin.
You keep saying we learned from John and other calvinist.
I learned from the scriptures you read . I've been saved over 75 yrs. I was saved very young simply because God chose me in pure grace and mercy. I'm safe in HIS love and looking for the rapture
The problem with Calvinism is that the prevenient grace that brings us to conviction is the Gospel and the Holy Spirit’s work to convict the person of his lostness without Christ. Grace could be resisted by our own will. Many people that are convicted resist God’s grace.
Convicted of what?
@Nino Maltese
Prevenient Grace, a nice concept invented by the Papists that cannot be derived from scripture.
@@redmane_0725 Doesn’t prevenient came from the word prevent?
It’s like saying preventing Grace. Or maybe they mean previous grace.
@Aletheia
The term prevenient comes from a Latin word that meant ”to come before, to anticipate."
However, when the phrase “prevenient grace” is used in theological discussions, it is used in a specific way. In the context of the on-going Calvinism vs. Arminianism debate, prevenient grace is referred to in order to object to the Calvinist doctrine of irresistible grace. This is the reason why, in both modern and historic times, it has also been called “resistible grace” or “pre-regenerating grace.” Since denying the necessity of God’s grace prior to a sinner’s conversion is clearly against biblical teaching, the non-Calvinist theological systems have to affirm a doctrine of grace that precedes a person’s exercising of saving faith. Since non-Calvinists do not believe the saving grace of God always results in the sinner coming to Christ, Christians down through the ages have referred to a type of grace they call prevenient. Simply put, prevenient grace is the grace of God given to individuals that releases them from their bondage to sin and enables them to come to Christ in faith but does not guarantee that the sinner will actually do so. Thus, the efficacy of the enabling grace of God is determined not by God but by man.
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@@redmane_0725 Yes. Grace that comes before. It just sounds stupid
Grace that comes before what. Grace that comes before Grace?
Calvanists want an outward circumcision like in the Old Testament, they want to see it with works, but God sees the heart, they want to be the judge over who God would save.
Great point!
Dead people can't sin. - Kevin Thompson
Ephesians 2:1-10 As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins, in which you used to live when you followed the ways of this world and of the ruler of the kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient. You quote contradicts scripture.
@tonygardiner5585 Dead people can not do anything good or bad. This shows the foolishness of the calvanistic corpse model in light of the biblical model. Total inability is a lie.
Luke 15:24 KJV
[24] for this my son was dead, and is alive again; he was lost, and is found. And they began to be merry.
@tonygardiner5585 Also, keep reading. It's a cure for Agastinian anthropology. No one was in Christ until place in Christ by the Holy Spirit. Biblical election is of believers to service and blessing, never spiritual salvation. All 242 times, the word or concept is used in scripture.
Ephesians 2:12-13 KJV
[12] that at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: [13] but now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
Great word brother! I'm in Fruitland Park Florida and I'm down in Orlando often. Keep preaching the word brother!
These calvinist are embarrassing🤦♀️ Actually, Jesus Himself told us that’s exactly what God does… Jesus said when He/Holy Spirit has come He will convict the world/lost people of sin/singular of righteousness and of judgment… of sin/singular, because they do not believe in Me John 16-8-9 also Jesus told us in John 14 that the Holy Spirit will be with us/walking/convicting/drawing John 6:44 and then, when we believe He will be in us. Of course they like to take John to 6:44 Totally out of context. They say that nobody can come to the Son unless the Father draws him is a proof text for election… But that is just confirmation of what Jesus told us and John 16:8-9🤦♀️
Man, these Calvinists like Sproul and McArthur are so misguided. Given their beliefs, why do they even preach? Why did Jesus have to sacrifice His life on the cross, in their beliefs? Why is faith even mentioned in the Bible? It’s mentioned because WE HAVE FREE WILL TO CHOOSE HIM OR DENY HIM!
Acts ch 9. The conversion of Saul. Now I wonder what the Apostle Paul would write about election 🤔 🙄 May God open our eyes to see wonderful things in His Word. Amen.
According to Christian doctrine, regeneration by the Holy Spirit is necessary for someone to have saving faith in Jesus Christ. The Bible teaches that apart from the work of the Holy Spirit, people are spiritually dead and unable to understand or accept the message of the Gospel (1 Corinthians 2:14). Therefore, it is believed that individuals cannot come to believe in Jesus Christ solely by their own efforts or intellect.
However, it's important to note that God can use various means to draw people to himself, including preaching, witnessing, and the testimony of believers. While regeneration by the Holy Spirit is necessary for someone to have true saving faith, God can still work in the hearts of individuals through these means to bring them to a point of repentance and faith in Christ. Ultimately, though, it is understood within Christian theology that regeneration is the work of God's grace.
What a great video thanks
Paul, if you are going to blatantly lie to decent people here about my well known position on this that I have debated with you over and over and is the exact opposite of what you wrote above just to smear me with your lies then I will block you permanently. This is your one and only warning. Don't do that again!
Also, you obviously see and respond to every single comment and reply, so I expect you to come back here and add a comment to this person above and admit you lied about me. Otherwise, you are not welcome here anymore.
what a great video. Thank you brother.
Ephesians 2:8-9 NIV
[8] For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith---and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God--- [9] not by works, so that no one can boast. MAYBE HERE
What about,Spurgeon? I listen to his sermon recordings and feel he is teaching straight from the bible. I was told he was a calvinist?
The more I listen to Calvinist, I think they are just very carnal. They are not spiritually minded. They can't understand spiritual things. He doesn't even understand spiritual death!
These celebrity type speakers think they can get away with teaching anything because of their known status. Scripture is clear that the teacher is held accountable. These people will stand before God one day and answer for this false teaching and all those they lied to and led wrongly
He wasn’t a celebrity 50 years ago, and he was teaching it then. So if you build your comment based on him being well known, how does that apply to him 50 years ago?
@@scott5654 RC Sproul was one of the celebrated leading voices and teachers of Calvinism speaking at all the big conferences when he was alive, much like John MacArthur. Sproul only died recently in 2017 at age 78 so I am not sure why you are mentioning 50 years ago when he would have only been 18 years old.
Ol' rc at 5:30 went off the blasphemy diving board.😮
I do understand that calvinisem is way out....and not the Gospel of the Bible. But in this message if you listen carefully he is not saying that God comes and whisper and woo you etc..etc...He asks a question. Does God come and whisper.....and woo you.....what he is saying is , God does not woo you but calls you instantly like he called Laserus from the dead. And of course we are predestined to respond positively with no choice of our own. [Calvinistic theology] please correct me if I am wrong!
"Calvinism dimishes who Jesus is and who he came to save." Powerful statement. Indeed, Calvinism is a different gospel.
Malachi 1:3 And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.
@Hay Victoria en Jesucristo
You state that Calvinism is a different gospel. Please describe what you mean. How is the gospel of Calvinism different from the gospel you hold to?
@@redmane_0725 There's only one gospel. When it is said that Calvinism teaches a different gospel, it is meant in the sense that it is a false gospel. The brother in charge of this channel has lots of videos that discuss the heresy and corruption of Calvinism in regards to soteriology. You may want to explore this channel in this regard. Greetings.
@Hay Victoria en Jesucristo
I am aware of Brian's accusations of heresy and claims of a false gospel against Reformed Theology, but just as you are unable, so also is he unable to define what those heresies are, and what that false gospel is.
@@redmane_0725 It's not about being unable to defend my position; it's just that I've been down this road before, and it's tiring. My original post was meant to give my support to Brian's position directly, not to engage in debate with my Reformed/Calvinist brethren. Greetings.
So the bottom line from Sproul is that if your actually "saved" you ARE a calvinist like it or not ?... I am saved and I don't accept any form of calvinism... so what's the point of teaching this stuff.. Who benefits from believing you don't have and never had a 'free-will' ?? Again.. even if it was correct... what's the point of pushing this on everybody ??
I agree, the whole analogy dead men cannot come to faith in Christ is not Scriptural. Yes, there is a drawing of God, but the drawing of God is not regeneration (making alive).
@Steven Thompson
But that wasn't the analogy. The analogy was: dead men don't cooperate. And Brian agreed with that.
nature does not want to come. and that language itself is problematic
@@franciscafazzo3460 and @Redmane_0
That is your belief. What do the Scriptures say? To pass from death to life is regeneration, and that is only possible by first believing in Lord Jesus after hearing the Gospel.
Regeneration, which is to pass from death to life (2 Corinthians 1:9-10), is by faith:
John 5:24 (WEB) “Most certainly I tell you, he who hears {{listens to}} my word and {{believes}} him who sent me has eternal life, and doesn’t come into judgment, but has {{{passed out of death into life}}} [regeneration].
Regeneration is the light of life (Ephesians 5:8) by faith evidenced by following Lord Jesus:
John 8:12 (EWEB) “I am the light of the world. [Isaiah 60:1] He who follows me will not walk in the darkness, but will have the {{light of life}}.” [The light of life is regeneration and is God’s Work in those who follow Lord Jesus.]
The fact is that many who are dead in sin sincerely seek to enter onto life (Luke 13:23-25) but are not every sinner is willing to count the cost, which is everything (Luke 14:26-33; Matthew 13:44-45). They may “believe in Jesus,” but many people refuse to put their faith in Jesus as their Lord because they refuse to repent and sanctify their hearts and lives to God from the fleshly idols they presently serve (2 Thessalonians 2:10-12). Nevertheless, as the Scriptures state, to pass from death to life, and to possess the light of life, comes by faith in Lord Jesus.
Luke 9:23-25 (EWEB) 23 He said to all, “If anyone desires to come after me, let him deny himself, take up his cross daily and follow me. 24 For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever will lose his life for my sake, will save it. 25 For what does it profit a man if he gains the whole world, and loses or forfeits his own self?
Such a bad comparison between Lazarus and being born again free choice...you need to be like a child to enter the gates of heaven, I don't believe any child is a theologian nor the thief on the cross. I guarantee if any Calvinist was at the foot of the cross looking at Jesus would dare say you are doing this for some and not others. When the centurion and those with him who were guarding Jesus saw the earthquake and all that had happened, they were terrified, and exclaimed, “Surely he was the Son of God!” Mat 27:54...child like...pure and unfathomable love! Excellent description of the prodigal son clear as day.
Limited atonement is the same as saying limited love
by no means, we all deserve wrath one is justice the other is grace.
Is Tom Horn a calvanist!!? Does anyone Koww? A little help please!!🙏
In Ephesians 1 and 2, the Apostle Paul discusses the concepts of predestination, election, and salvation by grace through faith. In Ephesians 1, Paul emphasizes God's sovereign choice in salvation, stating that believers were chosen before the foundation of the world. This speaks to the idea that God chooses individuals for salvation according to his will, not based on anything they have done.
Ephesians 2 focuses on the state of humanity before salvation and the work of God in bringing about salvation. It describes humanity as spiritually dead in sin and in need of being made alive through Christ. The chapter highlights God's mercy, grace, and love in saving sinners and making them alive in Christ. It emphasizes that salvation is not earned by human effort but is a gift of God.
Overall, these chapters affirm the sovereignty of God in salvation, the depravity of humanity apart from God's grace, and the necessity of faith in Christ for salvation. They teach that regeneration by the Holy Spirit is necessary for someone to believe in Jesus Christ and that salvation is ultimately the work of God.
You seem to be parroting Calvanist teaching rather than thinking yourself.
I’m so blessed that my Savior chose me first.
He did? You sure?
@@timsmith530 “Jesus answered them, “Do not grumble among yourselves. No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day.”
John 6:43-44
Yes, I am sure.
@@PeteJab So you found a Bible verse and thought it meant you?
Was listening to Leighton Flowers explain the son as being dead, as separated from the Father, which makes sense when Christ reconciles us with God the Father. The son came to his senses (being dead in his sins, how did that happen?), Wasn't he too depraved to make that decision?
Yes, He chose Judas too.
9:31 in here and I think of Peter who took the courage and declared that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God, and Jesus told him that flesh and blood did not reveal that to him, but the Father who is in heaven did reveal that to him, and I will say, by grace, seems to me. Yet, it took Peter awhile to come to that revelation no doubt by being with Jesus and seeing and hearing the things pertaining to the kingdom of God.
Calvinists twist the scripture to their own distraction.Jesus said these men draw near to me with their lips but their heart is far from Him, teaching the doctrines or commandments of men to the point the word of God has no affect on them.
Men that are bound by Calvinists teaching are in many ways blinded to the truth of the gospel, listening to this man shows that.
Calvinists need to get out of idolatry and follow Jesus according to the scripture not john calvin.
The truth, with respect to Brian's video, is that Brian does not deal forthrightly with Sproul's presentation at all. I have found and viewed the original presentation in its entirety, and Brian never actually deals with the issue being discussed by Sproul, which is the two different views that are held on regeneration, namely: Monergism versus Synergism. The evidence is apparent in the clip Brian used, beginning with Sproul reading from Ephesians 2, which takes place at the 4:27 mark of the original presentation. Shortly after reading the text, Sproul moves to his left, and we can see two words written on the chalkboard behind him. Those words are: Monergism, and below it is Synergism. So what we actually have here is a blatant case of fallacious strawman argumentation, in which Brian sets up a caricature of Sproul's argument and attempts to refute that caricature, all the while avoiding dealing fairly and honestly with the real content of Sproul's presentation.
@4theLAMBS
You are welcome to ridicule what I have said all you like, but doing so will never constitute a refutation of what I've said, for just as Brian has done with Sproul's presentation, you also are unwilling, or unable, to justly represent what I have said and formulate a response to it.
@4theLAMBS
Whatever, man...
@redmane_0725 thank you for being honest. I only met RC in passing, but did get to know RC, Jr. fairly well when he did a few of our church seminars back in the early 2000s. I know Brian seems to have a hatred for people who disagree with him and who are very knowledgeable and faithful ministers of the Bible. ❤
Monergism vs Synergism is a red herring. He's not trying to refute the presentation, he's trying to refute the interpretation and subsequent argumentation made by Sproul. The fact that Sproul makes it about monergism vs synergism is irrelevant.
If the foundation he uses to get to monergism (his Calvinist interpretations) is flawed then it doesn't matter where he lands on that topic.
@r.rodriguez4991 he would have to prove that it is flawed and he can't, so arguing against a straw man as our friend above was pointing out is dishonest... which doesn't surprise me because I have found Brian to be dishonest in the past and have called him out on this.
16:06 here, and I think about famines. Either by natural cycles of nature, or sent by God, a famine can cause us, or help us to return to God, or to seek God, for our salvation.
He believes in Baptizing babies when we have to make the choice when we are accountable
Calvinism= "When being better than everyone else ain't good enough"
I haven’t found anything that resembles that in the Canons of Dort.
@The Maine Surveyor
Yup, nor I in the Baptist Confession of 1689, either.
@@TheMaineSurveyor I don't see 'the canons of Dort' listed in my canon of the Bible. Nor do I see the 'Baptist Confession'. Which translation are you referencing?🤭
@@sasanka207 I mentioned the Canons of Dort because that is the document that lists the so-called Calvinist doctrines, and the Scriptures they reference. If you want to know what Calvinism is, read the Canons of Dort and the Scriptures it cites. Then see if you can find Andrew Lineberger’s equation there.
Thank you!