@@Schneebly743 As a group, Evangelicals have different and well-known challenges. I’m sure you have heard all of the criticism about emotionalism, loose interpretation of scripture, etc. As a group, their strong points are openness, honesty, and sincerely desiring to share the gospel. Individuals may have a proud and controlling spirit, but for example (generally speaking): Evangelicals want to win converts and build mega-churches. Calvinists want to win arguments with Arminians and take over their churches.
Do they not contradict themselves? They believe that you have no control over your salvation and that God predestined certainly ones to be saved and certainly ones to go to hell… Why are they even trying to defend what they believe ??? If God predestined and you don’t have no control, then don’t worry about it🤦♀️
@@911tbf I do not think MacArthur Ever said "to hell with the others" as you so apply state it... but there is something to consider... if we believe EVERYTHING written in the bible.. IS inspired... then that means it ALL MUST be 100% true.. Ephesians 1:4,5 tells us this... 4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: 5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, if we take this strictly on face value... then we must conclude that NO one will go to hell in the final judgement.. since God predestined US unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ... then this would seem to state... we are ALL pre chosen by God to be with Him in heaven one day... right?.. if you believe some will go to hell when they die... what separates those going to heaven from those going to hell?.. man's free will?.. then what you are saying.. man's free will is stronger than God's will for man... that man is capable of gong against God... but how can we.. when in Jesus' prayer of John 17 He states He has not lost any that the Father has given Him... " While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled." this one being JUDAS we must thereby deduct that Judas was one NOT chosen by God to have Jesus keep... correct?.. . and so we see that God DOES predetermine some to be lost..."so that scripture may be fulfilled..".. which scripture..?.. there are many... how about this one?.. Proverbs 16:4 "The Lord hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil." who are the wicked?... and when is the day of evil?.. in Job's day.. this happened the day when God gave Satan permission to torment Job.. for the rest of us.. it could be any time.. when the LORD needs His purposes to be fulfilled..
I agree with you. However, the Calvinists whom I disagree with believe the Holy Spirit only does that to a few select people God already chose for salvation from the beginning of time, and when the Holy Spirit goes after these people at God's decreed moment they receive irresistible grace, a key doctrine of Calvinism which equates to forced salvation.
I’m not a Calvinist, which I always stayed away arguing with these people, but at one time I did listen to John MacArthur and supported his ministry because he is so big on some of these radio stations. It’s not much else to listen to. Which brings a point off that eventually you start believing the teachings and doctrines of these people because of nothing to listen to in the pre-Internet days lol. But just a comment on this comment about the term “forced salvation” which I never heard until now lol but it made me think and make this comment and question what about Saul of Tarsus, who is chosen from his mothers womb, and yet in a way he was forced to surrender, which is one of the few unique ways that someone got saved, yet he still could’ve resisted the Lord (free will) instead of asking, who are you? He could’ve said how dare you blind me! Just a quick thought that came to me. I’m so glad that someone is in their right mind exposing this false teacher. I’ve done the same for quite some time to these “cultic” John MacArthurites in FB or YT. Keep the faith! 😊
Correct. But the Holy Spirit woos and pulls and calls EVERYONE. If someone wants to resist and reject that wooing that is their choice. God does not force His love on anybody.
Get a concordance and look up the number of times "seek the Lord," "sought the Lord," "seeks the Lord," "seeking the Lord," "sought God," "seek God," "seeks God" or "seeking God" appears. You will be overwhelmed.
Calvinism is as clear as mud: God picks people to be saved from eternity past, but still requires them to believe in his son who died for them only. At the same time he grants them the belief they need to believe, because they can't believe, even though he told them to believe. Then he makes sure they continue to believe, even though they were chosen to believe.
I always thought MacArthur was dry and circular. To be honest, there was nothing edifying about his sermons. It makes sense the other popular Calvinist TV preacher, such as Piper are also.
I was driving home from a job one day o I5 in Oregon and as I was going through Albany I was listening to MacArthur not because i like listening to him but for the purpose of learning how to know exactly how to understand the mechanics of his gnostic philosophy AND i heard him say “ if God had wanted to save every one, I would not feel all that important “. That’s the mind of a self centered narcissist to the nth degree. Just another example of his prideful arrogance. I would not want to be in his shoes at the great white throne judgement.
I always say that John MacArthur is a narcissist! He also looks so dark to me. It’s because he’s preaching the doctrine of Satan. He said that during the tribulation if people take the Mark of the Beast they can still be saved!
I was from a Hindu background and an atheist from my science academics. There is no chance I would have ever accepted Jesus as my Lord via religious teachings from Christians like John MacArthur. However, the Charisms of the Holy Spirit and speaking in Tongues followed by signs, wonders, and miracles led me to affirm Jesus as per Romans 10:9. I honestly believe the truth in John 14:12 and other scriptures in the Bible. How can one miss it?
In the first clip, John MacArthur essentially read a passage of scripture and summarized it then the video host said MacArthur defended total depravity. I don’t think I heard the words total depravity come out of MacArthur’s mouth. If you are going to accuse a man of some error you need to present the facts. You didn’t. I quit watching at 3:54.
😂😂😂😂. JM literally says the doctrine of depravity, if you’re missing small things like that, then apologetics might be something you don’t comment on lol. I can see why calvanists are still relevant.
@@raymondhandboy4730 I am not arguing in favor of Calvinism. I am arguing against extrapolating what Calvinists teach by making references to phrases they don’t use. The doctrine of depravity has a meaning. It is often not the meaning ascribed to it. Your demeaning statement against me shows the belittling attitude that many bring to the discussion. You need to get rid of that and address what people actually say. Not your strawman of what they said. Show me where MacArthur says “total depravity”. Simple. Total depravity to a Calvinist essentially means that every aspect of a person is impacted by sin.
@@raymondhandboy4730 And just like most posters here, you criticize things never said and ignore the things actually said. In that scoffing manner, you will never gain understanding.
@@bk1bennett Macarthur teaches the Tulip. The "T" stands for total depravity. Of course he teaches it. Calvinists follow a devil who delighted in the burning of people at the stake. Calvin was an evil, wicked man.
It is correct that the apostle Paul quoted from the psalms AND isaiah in Romans 3. I am just curious that when he wrote "No one is righteous, not one", you interpret it that he only referred to the fools and the wicked as a context. Isn't it that when we say "no one", it meant no one? David wrote in Psalm 14:3 that "They have ALL turned aside, together they have become corrupt, there is none who does good, not even one", with the previous verse stating that the Lord looks down from the heavento see IF there are those who understand, who seek God? If context is what we are looking for, we need to quote the rest of Psalm 14? Psalm 14:1 is the starting statement for what David was to expound on, that no one does good, not one seeks God. It is not good to accuse someone of false teaching when what he said is consistent with the Word of God.
I think you misquoted Psalm 14: 1. It says, "The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good." That is the starting point and the group to whom David is referring to as Psalm 14 continues. So, when Paul quotes this in Romans 3, the "no one" in the group is literally the same type of person to whom David was referring to, which are the people who don't believe in God and were persecuting God's people who were the true believers. The Bible, not me, defines who "no one" is referring to. I am just reporting what the Bible says. Ignoring the correct context is just typical of Calvinists who can't get a single Bible doctrine correct it seems because they are constantly reading the Bible and misinterpreting isolated texts solely for the purpose of making it fit their man-made ideology. King David was speaking about those who don't believe in God and are fools, and he was not referring to every person alive like Calvinists claim. The context is even in the quote from Paul whom he is referring to in Romans 3 if you would just read on a little bit and not through the lens of Calvinism but just by the words on the page. Paul was not referring to born again believers. Christians, whether Jew or Gentile, have been made new in Christ, became a child of God, been redeemed and forgiven and are seen by God in the perfect righteousness of Christ. It seems this Christianity 101 basic concept is totally lost on Calvinists who think everyone is wicked and hates God with feet swift to shed blood and destruction and misery are in their ways. Nope, that simply is not true of real Christians.
None of us are born as Christians. However, in David's time they were born into God's chosen people. Even then, there were jews that failed and were unrighteous and they needed to atone for their sins during yam kapur. (Probably spelt that wrong) Another way to look at it is that all of us, not born a jew, are not chosen by God. And by default, we are not brought up knowing God. So NO ONE can save themselves with their OWN righteousness; as Paul was explaining. But let's take that to the side and think more of David. Was he righteous? He murdered a man to get that man's wife. Yet believed in God and was still righteous enough to save himself without Grace, but only on the grounds of knowing God? We all fall short of the kingdom of God, and it's only those that put their faith in the death and resurrection of Christ to cover our sins and make us righteous in the sight of the Father. To claim to be saved by only knowing there is a God, yet not being born again, letting your soul and mind and heart be made new.... that is a fool.
The context for all Old Testament is before regeneration by the indwelling Holy Spirit. Now true Believers in Jesus are called the righteousness of God. Things have changed since the Day of Pentecost, if we mix Gods Promises with faith !
Yip the old testament is still quoted "as paul did" in the new testament as guidance for us. If you deny that then you might as well deny the cross. Really
Finding your RUclips channel and listening to you , I have peace in my heart again because I found Justin Peters channel first and I began to hate the prosperity preachers God did not call me to hate anyone ( to be clear I think prosperity preachers are false ) but I began to question my own salvation, Everytime I watched Justin I went away with this deep disturbing feeling in my spirit I felt hopeless, when I watched him attacking children is when I knew something wasn't quite right and by the grace of God I found your channel , Thank you so much
Peters is a MacArthur supporter. Most believers are missing the gospel message of grace. Dr. Andrew Farley brought it home to me. His gospel message of grace opened my eyes. He is on all social media.
I have seen Calvinism sweep into numerous churches and absolutely stop evangelism and the fire of evangelism! They are two things that are eternal in this world and that is the Word of God and the souls of men! We make it so difficult when it is so simple. Seems like the church is often interested in programs when God is made it so simple to exegate the Word of God and reach as many people as we can with the glorious gospel of Jesus Christ! Matthew 6:33
Uniquely Calvinistic doctrine is false, but don't overstate your case. Although uniquely Calvinistic theology is false and harmful, it leaves the gospel intact and is therefore still within orthodox Christianity. If you were more careful with your phrasing you'd say something to the effect of "There's no worse teaching *within orthodox Christianity* than Calvinism", but I don't think even that would be true. There are some very much just barely on-this-side-of-the-line liberal Christians that just technically believe the gospel and get just about everything else wrong; surely that's worse than Calvinism.
@@justinerasmus8725No, I understand Calavinism. I understand the gospel, too. Explain to me why people who put their faith in Christ are somehow terrible simply for being mistaken about how they came to that faith. The important thing is having faith and putting that faith where it belongs. Calvinists do that.
@@LawlessNate .... Little tip for both of y'all,.. 🙏🙏... "If you're guilty of breaking one... Are you not guilty of breaking the whole?".... " Total depravity"?... The doctrine uses some scriptures.... And ignores many many others. That can hardly be considered.." being true to the gospel"... Jesus said "IF you love me keep my Commandments."... Almost every Christian I encounter on RUclips doesn't even believe it's necessary to obey Jesus. Or even what his "Commandments" are 🧐... How does one repent of sin... If he defines what sin is himself? On one hand we have Jesus, the Son of the living God.... On the other, the Pope and all his minions.... Read the Bible... The whole Bible... And believe every Word... And you will learn that "choice" began in the garden... The whole world is deceived, and choosing wrong. May the Lord have mercy on us all 🙏
Seventh-Day adventism?. . Don't get me started bro! I've studied the doctrines of all the major denominations of the so-called Reformation... ain't none of them very pretty! 😂🤣 But if you think keeping God's is "Cultish"... You might want to do some more " thinking"🤣🤣 after a lot more reading! 👍🙏😍
@@WilliamH490 As I stated previously brother... I used to know the doctrines of all the major denominations... Well over 90% can't read a calendar... I would not wear the stamp of any one of them... If I'm not mistaken... The prophecies that Ellen g White made ... Those dates have come and gone.. I admit to making fun of her a little bit since Jesus himself said that he didn't know the day... John tells you at the beginning of his gospel... "Jesus Christ is the Word of God manifest in flesh"... The day of his return is not in the Word... I am unaware of sorcerers and witches Being sanctioned in their literature... But you can bet I'm going to look it up to see if you're blowing smoke. On the other hand 😎 The pope demands that you believe in a three-headed God... And worship on the first day of the week... "The greatest Mark the Catholic church ever made on the planet"... So yes... One must be very careful if he chooses to follow someone... Instead of just read the whole Bible and believe the whole Bible... The route I always advise... Why?.. because that's the route Jesus Himself recommended... A lot!! 👍😎 And while we're at it... The Owner and Judge of all the Earth has full knowledge of everything He ever said... Only He has the wisdom and understanding to determine who belongs to a cult. If we would like to avoid being deceived... Then we should love what Jesus says... And know what those Words are. (There's a bunch of them in the Gospels... They're printed in red in my Bible).... But if I start quoting Jesus I don't have to start dodging the arrows and stones from the "Christians"... Again,.. I apologize for not being clear... Hating on people because they want to obey God is not wise...
Good job! I have been in a Calvinist (Reformed) church and made good friends there. But the ultimate truth is that Calvinists always think that being saved requires only one condition and that is having the 'correct' doctrine. A moment's reflection should be enough for people to realise that salvation requires a right relationship with God and therefore has nothing to do with doctrine.
I watched his teaching about SIN- My conclusion is the problem is us believers we listen to prophets and pastors who condemn us, who don't preach the good news but bad news, they use the scripture where it talks about sin to rub it in that we are sinners and we're going to hell, BUT only Jesus Christ was without sin and there is no how we're going to be perfect like him. The Good News is that Jesus is there for us sinners who believe in him, He came to the world for us sinners and he is with us even now, His work was done on the cross. I am not justifying sin but we can't let sinners like us condemn us. We can't live in bondage of fear (fear of sinning) while Jesus said we're free indeed. We're not under the law but under grace. This narrow path is a journey, so God's mercies on us are renewed daily.
“So then He has mercy on whom He desires, and He hardens whom He desires. You will say to me then, “Why does He still find fault? For who resists His will?” On the contrary, who are you, O man, who answers back to God? Will the thing molded say to the molder, “Why did you make me like this”? Or does not the potter have authority over the clay, to make from the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use? And what if God, wanting to demonstrate His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much patience vessels of wrath having been prepared for destruction, and in order that He might make known the riches of His glory upon vessels of mercy, which He prepared beforehand for glory-” Romans 9:18-23 I’m curious on your interpretation of these verses
Keep reading onto chapter 11. “For God has committed them all to disobedience, 👉that He might have mercy on all.👈” Romans 11:32 NKJV Romans 9 is about God hardening Israel to crucify Jesus.
Also. When Paul spoke of the potter, he was referring to Jeremiah’s analogy in Jeremiah 18. The clay in Jeremiah is Israel and Israel was given a choice. God’s hardening is CONDITIONAL. “The word which came to Jeremiah from the Lord, saying: “Arise and go down to the potter’s house, and there I will cause you to hear My words.” Then I went down to the potter’s house, and there he was, making something at the wheel. And the vessel that he made of clay was marred in the hand of the potter; so he made it again into another vessel, as it seemed good to the potter to make. Then the word of the Lord came to me, saying: “O house of Israel, can I not do with you as this potter?” says the Lord. “Look, as the clay is in the potter’s hand, so are you in My hand, O house of Israel! The instant I speak concerning a nation and concerning a kingdom, to pluck up, to pull down, and to destroy it, 👉if that nation against whom I have spoken turns from its evil, I will relent of the disaster that I thought to bring upon it.👈 And the instant I speak concerning a nation and concerning a kingdom, to build and to plant it, if it does evil in My sight so that it does not obey My voice, then I will relent concerning the good with which I said I would benefit it.” Jeremiah 18:1-10 NKJV
@AVB2 you misunderstand my point. Even if Jeremiah was talking about Christians, the verses in Jeremiah still offer us a choice. Read what I pointed to with the little hand emojis.
Calvinism is wrong! Bible is so clear God came to save ALL Mankind and wishes NO ONE to parish. Why would God than choose who is to be saved and others send to Hell, total contradiction!!. God is not an author of confusion. Macarthur, Washer, Sproul and Piper are preaching a false Gospel!
All you need to say: Tell us what he said or let us hear what he said and then bring us to Gods Word and explain where John was wrong. The danger is, if you speak too much you will weary your listeners and clutter the truth on this matter; the little of you the better. You say a lot before you bring Gods Word in. This will be helpful, if you consider, what I’ve said. The preachers in Nehemiah chapter 8 verse 8 shows us how this preaching should be done. “So they read in the book in the law of God distinctly, and gave the sense, and caused them to understand the reading.” Far to mush chatter from you, telling us what you are going to do. Prepare yourself before God and be his spokesperson. We should, as it were, speak and walk timidly, it is true many of Gods teachers are bringing out untruths, these days, But because they are servants to Him; we should have restraint and speak with this verse in mind, “Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.” Romans 14 verse 4 Finally, we know the scriptures are profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.
Thank you brother for another fantastic teaching. Calvinism is truly diabolical ideas that misrepresent the character of God and it’s so misleading and distorted. I subscribed to Shade, he has a mighty powerful testimony.
@@faithonfireministries They never use the book of Psalms. "It is written" they so miss the fact that you have to have a heart for God a genuine heart towards God. They miss that entirely. A lot of people who defend Calvinism do not express love that people have. The Word of God pierces your heart. God even says "the peoples hearts wax cold"
Apostle Paul taught about inability to believe: 2Cor 4:3-4 - And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing. The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
@@trevorwood5433 that passage is about the “god” of this world that has blinded people” that is referring to satan. Not God! God gave satan time in our earthly realm to take willing captives. He wanted to be like God!! This is why everyone needs the gospel. Salvation is for everyone. Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. Gods plan is for everyone to go through Christ.
@@womanatthewell9603 - that's exactly what I am saying. Men are kept under Satan's bondage until God breaks through with the light of the glory of the Gospel of Christ. God has handed all men over to disobedience that he may have mercy on all.
Brian, it's true the 'proof text' backNforth has been 'done' a hundred times BUT... it's still important to keep refreshing it. Calvinists are like political progressives... the ideology never stops.... There's always someone who just heard about it this afternoon for the first time. Calvinists got a 'leg up'' on RUclips years ago and we're running to catch up... gaining.. but still not 'there' yet. I'm convinced that continuing to put up new material, even on the old subject, keeps it 'relevant' in the search and Al Gore rythmnses 😎And 'your' presentation may be the one which helps someone see clearly and avoid getting caught up in the web of the reformed. Too many people have never heard the sermon "what's wrong with Calvinism" and they're totally unprepared for the well crafted out-of-context arguments of the Calvinist trying to confuse them about how they got saved in the first place. I'm always posting with the silent 3rd party reader in mind... and I sometimes get messages from persons who were totally absent in the comments sections, thanking me for something I posted which was helpful in seeing through the 'fog' of Calvinism, even as much as 2yrs after I posted it. Keep it up.. you're doing great.
@@faithonfireministries I like Kevin Thompson's focus on the puzzling idea of 'why' do some Christians fall for Calvinism and it's similarities with with other odd ideologies, like Marxism, etc. You probably saw Leighton's recent posting of a letter he received thanking him for a video he did quite some time ago which had one point out of an hour.😎.. that caused them to stop and rethink it... and that was the catalyst which paved their way of escape. In the same way that you may witness Christ to a nonbeliever I could never reach, and vice versa, your individual 'take' on the flaws and errors of Calvinism can be the key that unlocks a door which others may never offer. Carry on, ... Say, what's that guitar in the background?
Brian-thanks for talking about the total depravity of Calvinism which is total inability. The Calvinists used Romans 3. Psalms 14, David talked about a God-denying person. And Paul talked about Psalms 14 in Romans 3. Very good, Brian.
So Paul and David are talking about UNBELIEVERS, just like the calvinist. Until God grants repentance and faith, the unbeliever can't respond positively to the Gospel.
Nope, can't even see how you read the Calvinistic doctrine of Total Depravity into this text the way you did. Another example of what I have said many times... Bible believers start by reading the Bible to learn from what it has to say but Calvinists start with their false doctrines in mind and then read the Bible trying to find any way to insert their doctrines into the text and learn nothing from God's Word.
"For the Gentiles who do not have the Law DO INSTINCTIVELY the things if the Law, these, not having the Law, are a Law to themselves, in that they show the work of the Law WRITTEN IN THEIR HEARTS, their conscience bearing witness and their thoughts alternately accusing or else defending them.". These passages debunked Total Depravity. God has written His Law into the hearts of men and men does it(Law) instinctively and because of this men has the ability to response to God positively.
TULIP is purpose built to remove man’s requirement to believe the Gospel. T - removes our requirement to believe in Jesus (says we can’t) U - removes our requirement to believe in Jesus (says we’re already saved) L - removes our requirement to believe in Jesus (says Jesus atonement wasn’t for all sin just the chosen, back to point U) I - removes our requirement to believe in Jesus (says we can’t believe God will make us believe) P - removes our requirement to believe in Jesus. (Says God will make us preserve) Any teaching that removes our requirement to believe in Christ, and takes the focus off Christ alone for salvation is a false teaching. If anyone has to question if their family and friends are “elect” their hope for salvation is not in Christ alone, it’s in “election”. In Calvinism Christs work on the cross takes a back seat to “election”. Of course Calvinists will not say this, but it is what it is.
Well said. You understand Calvinism much better than most Calvinists do. Calvinism has a subtle but real seducing and bewitching spirit about it. It takes spiritual maturity and discernment to recognize that. It's so sad how many Calvinists have been bewitched and lost their ability to think straight and realize the actual implications of the utter nonsense they claim to adhere to.
@@faithonfireministries I honestly think Calvinisim is one of the enemies most masterful deceptions. Imagine interpreting scripture in such a way that it removes Christ alone for salvation, (but leaves Him in there just enough to seem true), defames the character of God himself, and does all of this in the name of Gods Sovereignty.
Is my thought on this correct? please let me know thanks... Calvinists', when quoting Romans 8:30..."and those whom he predestined he also called"...YOU need to go back to verse 29, "For those whom he FOREKNEW he also predestined to be conformed..." In other words, God called us because he already knew we would believe so he predestined us to be the image of his Son and do good works. Verse 29 seems to be left out when quoting Romans 8:30 regarding Calvinist's? God Bless
what also bothers me is how Calvinist use Romans 3, as if that still applies to us as believers! No, all have sinned and fall short of the glory God, and there is none righteous no not one, is the state of man before we got saved by Christ or without Christ. But Romans 4 starts off by saying, WE, being believers, have been justified with Christ. Paul also says in 2 Cor 5:17-21 that we are now the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus. So as believers, we are righteous now in Christ! So, do we miss it and sin from time to time, yes, and do we fall short yes, but we are righteous in Christ now, so Romans 4 is where we are. Romans 3 is the state of man without Christ, proving ALL need Christ both Jew and Gentiles alike, that's the context. not that all are still scumbags whether you are saved or not. No! When we are saved, we are righteous now, if not, what is the difference between the saved and unsaved? thanks.
What does it even matter to him if they're denying total depravity in the way that he believes it? Cause no one can make any decisions on their own anyway. 🤷♀️
That, and on calvinisim, everything is determined by God. Which means, God determined that person to do that for his own glory. Which brings me to my other point. James White says, that Gid determined evil to happen, and if God didn't do that, then it is purposeless evil (even though the purpose of evil is evil,) then he says, this is all done for God's glory. So, either way, calvinists talk out of both sides of their mouths. They say that people are robbing God of his glory, while at the sametime saying, everything that is done, God gets the glory for it. They don't make any sense.
I might as well add my two cents in just the comments by itself to say that for years as a former listener supporter of John, MacArthur, just the cessationism alone, got me away from him and his supporters. Now when I come across his supporters, it is no different than when you come across a Jehovah witness, a Scientologist, or a Mormon. I had a friend who was a Calvinist and I repeat HAD but it had nothing to do with Calvinism, but him ripping apart, making posts against our Prime Minister, which the Scriptures clearly opposes. But anyways these followers of John MacArthur refuse to change. They refuse to basically even listen to you no matter what scriptures you show them because they’ll have “their scriptures.” On and on back-and-forth, banging your head against the wall, there comes a time or even Paul kicked the dust off his feet and just kept walking to the next city. It’s the same with these Calvinists that you can waste tons and tons of your life to no avail , when you could do something productive, like go fishing, go hiking, make a water colour painting, make a delicious meal for your wife and give her lots of kisses afterwards. But to sit there for hours on RUclips or on Facebook arguing with these cult members of John MacArthur‘s elite group is a complete waste of time. Redeem your time for the days are evil. Because you won’t be able to get it back. I know it.
I agree with much of your sentiment, except that occasionally one of those cult members actually breaks free because they started reading the Bible for themselves instead of have the distorted Calvinist perspective spoon fed to them. But mainly the point of speaking out against the dangers of Calvinism is so newer Christians will be warned to understand what it is all about so they see the red flags and avoid going down that path.
Calvinist : if you don’t think God chooses who He will save then why did God prevent Paul from preaching in Asia? Answer : If God chooses who He saves according to what He has determined from eternity past, He wouldn’t need to prevent Paul from preaching to certain people because according to Calvinism a person does not believe by hearing, but by God enabling them through regeneration. God preventing Paul from preaching in Asia at that time had nothing to do with preventing people from believing
”And he said unto me, Son of man, can these bones live? And I answered, O Lord GOD, thou knowest. Again he said unto me, Prophesy upon these bones, and say unto them, O ye dry bones, hear the word of the LORD. Thus saith the Lord GOD unto these bones; Behold, I will cause breath to enter into you, and ye shall live: and I will lay sinews upon you, and will bring up flesh upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and ye shall live; and ye shall know that I am the LORD.“ Ezekiel 37:3-6 KJV We are spiritually dead people! Read your Bible! John 3 ”Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.“ and Eph 2 ”And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;“
Funny John, MacArthur says “they can’t even be Christians at all and how sad that is to mislead them.”Well what difference does it make? Why, because if you’re not going to heaven anyway and they’re all going to hell- why would that be sad. At least those who aren’t Calvinist gave them hope on earth until they go to hell… right?
"Atheism is the fruit of Macarthurism". If total depravity is correct, then every thought, word, deed, no matter of its intention, needs to be repented of, including any interpretation of the bible. Every conversion experience, as well, is housed out of depravation, and is thus corrupted. Thus every thought of Jesus is thus corrupted, and needs to be repented of.
Brother I just subscribed to your channel. I hope you cover all of the points the Calvinists teach. Also I would like to apologize to you for some words I said to you on another livestream, I learned you were right all along the hard way. God bless you brother.
i was a Hebrew Israelite years ago and went I came out of it Calvinism was the natural progression. It feels so good to be free of Calvinism and stop believing that Jesus didn't die for Everyone.
I appreciate some light being shed on this topic, it has helped me understand even more what is being taught and how to refute it. GOD BLESS YOU SIR!!!
Romans uses the phrase that none seek after God in referring to Jews and Gentiles. It is a reference from Psalms but Paul uses it in reference to Jews and Gentiles (everyone) not modern Bible teachers. You have ignored the context of Romans 3.
I'm no fan of jmac, but in the clip he does not say "Total Depravity" there is a difference between someone preaching a false prosperity gospel saying man is basically good and a calvinist inserting "total depravity" into a text. I think jmac was speaking of the prosperity proclaimer in that clip. I know several calvinist who put him on a pedestal,but even though they disagree with my Provisionist beliefs they have never accused me of being or treated me as an unbeliever. ALL CHRISTIANS need to stop with the infighting, it is does NOTHING to win the lost or glorify CHRIST. 1 Cor. 2:2
Your breakdown of the Text is perfect. Thank you, Please if you could keep these coming. You truly have been a Blessing too me and to help me, even coming from someone like myself who has always studied out of the NASB 😁 🙏
The gospel states we are forgiven and saved by repentance and faith, not “election.” And that anyone who brings a false gospel is condemned and cursed. In truth, would you say MacArthur and any Calvinist for that matter is saved?
Funny you ask that. I have a video I just recorded earlier today and it will be coming out next week, maybe Tuesday or Thursday (we shall see as I have not scheduled it just yet) in which that is the subject... Are Calvinists Saved? I walk through the Scripture on salvation and what the Gospel is and what it means to believe in the death, burial and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ in accordance with Scripture as it says in 1 Cor 15: 3,4. "In accordance with Scripture" which Paul wrote in those verses is the focus of the video. We know Calvinists believe in Jesus, but do they believe in Jesus, in particular in his death on the cross in accordance with Scripture? I think this will be a very compelling video for many to watch. God bless you!
Dr. R.C. Sproul argued in his Essentials of the Christian Faith that total depravity is not utter depravity. We are not as wicked as we possibly could be said Sproul. His view on total depravity aligns more with the Bible
Brian 1st, I appreciate your drawing awareness to another brother (Shade). 2nd, Great break down of Romans 3. Calvinists have to contrive, conflate & prevaricate so many passages to "TRY" & give validity to their man-made theological system. Looking forward to more videos on how they've highjacked so many comprehensive passages, that end up confusing saints & turn our Heavenly Father into an arbitrary Evil Step Dad.
Amen, we know Paul quoted the Old Testament, Due to common sense, he was a trained at the San Hadrian prior to conversion. He takes the teaching from the Old Testament, Because the New had not been completed. How illogical was the sermon on total depravity? MacArthur threatens those who do not believe in this junk. But being totally depraved is reprobate anyway. I would like to hear MacArthur explain Salvation out of this debacle of a sermon. Great Job Brian on the cross reference, with Psalms! Amen.
You think God determines all evil and sin if you believe in “absolute sovereignty” like most Calvinists do but I know the Bible is clear. Satan is behind sin and evil. Not God. So it is Calvinism that is in fact heresy. You will answer to God one day for calling Him evil and the reason for miser and rape, etc in order that He received glory through that evil. That is sick! The Calvinists who teach that are sick and nothing but wolves.
I never said I was Calvinist. Scripture is clear . If you chose on your own corrupt free will to choose God's claims on your life --- you will stand before God and your mouth will be STOPPED. Clear scripture
I so love that every reliable teacher I have been led to is reading from the KJV. To be fair, I believed the lies about modern translations being from the "oldest and best" manuscripts for over 10 years. Until I begged the Lord to help me understand why there were so much confusion and debate. I read a different translation year after year, sometimes 4 at a time to get "the full meaning" of the text, searching blue letter for the Greek and Hebrew, watching endless debates. Then a sister in Christ gifted us a KJV Bible for our newborn son and I began to read...Every Word from the mouth of God matters. Make sure you are not reading an interpretation, with at least 10% of the words changed solely to be able to obtain a copyright and make money.
The Bible wasn't written in English. The KJV isn't as accurate of a representation of God's word as the original texts were in Hebrew, Greek, and Aramic. By comparing English translations to the original texts they were written in, we can know that the KJV isn't the most accurate translation of the Bible. It's certainly good enough and there's barely any functional difference between it and other more modern translations, but the newer English translations based on more recent manuscript evidence are objectively more accurate, albeit very slightly and in just a handful of verses. I don't like the KJV personally. The translation itself is fine; the substance is there. However, in addition to the substance there's also the fluff of "thee"s and "thou"s. The KJV trains people to want fluff, and there's a huge issue with much of humanity that when they seek for God they seek for fluff instead of substance. They will go to a church based on how beautiful the building is instead of how accurate the teaching is inside. They will go to the place that makes them feel good instead of the place that properly uses God's word to inspire conviction of their sin.
I would also state, yes, no one is good, as in sinless. 1 Kings 8:46, 2 Chronicles 6:36, Ecclesiastes 7:20, and Romans 3:23 later on in the chapter, states the same. But, it does NOT say, (like a Calvinist would have to affirm) that we can't repent toward God, and believe toward Jesus Christ (Acts 20:21). God gives that option to everyone (1 Timothy 4:10, 2 Peter 3:9). (Calvinists state they believe in repentance, but they say one has to be passive repentance, basically, God has to repent you, not you repent toward God. Weird stuff.)
@@faithonfireministries Absolutely, I'm watching 👀 your Video right now as I'm writing this too you. Keep fighting the good fight of the faith, you have helped and Blessed me so very much.
Quick question in verse one the text states it is speaking of fools, then in verse 2 it is speaking about the sons of men, would that not change who David is speaking of?
I use to listen to him, because some of his teaching are good, but it ended very fast at one sermon, where he said that there wont be animals in Heaven, that was the last time, because I know the bible, so I could find so many chapters about animals in Heaven, so that ended my interest for him.......
@@Frieden-durch-Jesus You can find it so many places in the bible, but you have to read it, and seek wisdom, because God is spirit. Do you think that God would create a world full of wonderful animals of all kind and cizes, and let them die for good. Read Phalms 36-7 50-10-11 74-19 96-12 104-det hele 148 dte hele. People fear crogs and the hippo, but in the book of Job, you can read chapter 40 and 41 all of it, and read Gods blessing of those big dangerous animals. My old arabian horse was 30 years old when he asked to go home, not in words but in his eyes, and God told me that he had to go. I cryed because I was mourning my old friend, but I saw him and his old friend in a dream, not as old horses, but as young new creations. God loves the animals, and He know that many people love and care for them, so of course He wont separate them for good, no He will let us join our pets in Heaven, that is if we go there, but if you know the bible, you know what it takes to go there. Dont let anybody fool you or lie to you, let God show what you need to know to find peace in your heart. Why do you think some animals are very intelligent, and actually knows more about death than humans, let me tell you why, they come from Heaven as Gods creation, so they know, it is as simple as that. God bless you my friend and dont take my words for it, seek God, and he will answer......
You are right, it is not based in Scripture but for John MacArthur it is based in Calvinism which is more important to him than what God says. The main point of Calvinism is to present intellectual philosophies that undermine the authority of Scripture through fancy commentaries written by unbelievers. I watched MacArthur make that claim that a person who is saved can take the mark of the beast in the end times and still go to heaven. Understand, the reason for his logic is based upon an unbiblical view of Calvinism which teaches unconditional election. They think God chose from the beginning of time everyone who will be saved (Elect) and everyone who will go to hell, and nothing can change that, even if the Elect takes the mark of the beast. In the cult MacArthur belongs to even the people who swear allegiance to the Antichrist and the Beast and take the mark of the beast will be saved and go to heaven if they are part of the Elect chosen by God from the foundation of the world.
@@faithonfireministries I don't know if it was his Calvinism that led him down that path, because if you listen to it there was a lot of "I think" and "I believe" in there. His Calvinism impacted it, but I believe he was leaning to his own understanding there, starting off at a bad point and then reasoning through it using his own thought processes. Either way, it was totally antithetical to clear words of Scripture. But, it's like Kevin Thompson said: calvinism is a philosophical system designed to make you disbelieve Scripture.
Are you saying that taking the mark of the beast is an unforgivable sin? Total rejection, and dying in that rejection is the only unforgivable sin. That being said, it would certainly be unlikely.
Still watching and adding a like to each new video you place up on RUclips Brian 👍. The Wiz of Oz analogy is spot on! Part of the elitism of Calvinist leaders, is their extremely mistaken idea of also having much greater Biblical knowledge than anyone in true Christianity. BTW: I subscribed to Shade's channel. My wife and I watched the video of his you referred your channel followers to another recent video you posted. The sincerity and love of God in that brother is a true blessing! ✝
Thanks James. I do the same for all your videos. I really love what you do, all those controversial videos in particular recently that many are afraid to touch on, and you tackle those issues head on. I watch them all and always click that like button. God bless you!
You mean how right before Paul writes that where he writes “What then? Are we Jews any better off No, not at all. For we have already charged that all, both Jews and Greeks, are under sin, 10 as it is written. He is not talking about a specific people he is referring to everyone that’s why right after saying that he goes directly into the purpose of the law, right before he lays out the gospel. Also the lenses you say Calvinist put on everyone approaches the scriptures with presuppositions, I hope you don’t think you some how don’t.
Matthew 7:11 Jesus says, if you being evil know how to give good gifts to those who you love how much more will the heavenly Father give good gifts to those who ask? This says that the evil people can do good debunking the whole total depravity theory.
I totally agree about Calvinism a very horrible false doctrine.... 1 John gives us the definition of sin.. it is trespassing and breaking God's law.... And God's law is giving in detail Exodus Leviticus Numbers Deuteronomy... Yes we are all born with a sin nature that we inherited from Adam and Eve but we do not become sinners until we Actually break just one of his commandments and laws then we are sinners.... Esther was probably an 18-year-old and the greatest of reputation.. look at Joseph maybe 17 years old sold into slavery into Egypt he told Potiphar's wife I cannot do this sinful thing and sin against God.... These are two people who is a picture of the Christ that would come who would save their people... So even as kids they teach you your sinful.. that is horrible some of these kids will commit sin just because they're told their already sinners by the church... We know that you cannot pass sin down to the next generation.... Only God knows the very heart and the very actions of everyone and we know he breaks up young kids because many of them are wholesome unpolluted by the world..... We have no right to tell them and teach them their sinners.... Thanks for your Bible study I did enjoy it...
Why does limited atonement bother you? I don't really understand why it bothers anybody. Limited atonement has zero practical impact. Either the atonement is for everyone but only those who believe receive the benefits of it, or the atonement was only for those who believe. The end result is the same. If you switch limited atonement to universal atonement will even one single additional soul be saved? Nope. So why do people care so much about it? I don't believe in limited atonement but either way it seems to be a complete non-issue. It's like the argument between whether what God does is good because God does it or whether it is because God only does good things. It's a distinction with a difference that doesn't matter.
I believe the Bible clearly teaches that we are not born sinners but rather under sin, so in a sinful environment, and we become sinners through choices we make. After all, there are many scriptures referring to departing from God and being reconciled which insinuates a broken relationship.
Brian I am so glad I found your videos. I have a question for you, but first, I will preface it with it the fact I have been a student of R.C. Sproul, having listened to him daily for years on my commute to and from work. I knew he was Presbyterian I didn’t know he was a follower of Calvin and Luther so much, but as he sprinkled Luther’s life and teachings into his teachings, I soon discovered things I had never heard,being raised Baptist. He did sprinkle his personal views through out his teaching and I found it refreshing when he gave his testimony at college as he gave his heart to Christ in a chapel and the magnificent transformation. I had a problem with predestination and I just didn’t listen to those teachings, I also didn’t agree with his view of the rapture. He, however, had the power of the Holy Spirit leading his teaching to ‘agree to disagree’ on any Christian teaching and doctrine that did not infringe on the ‘actual gospel of Christ’ and to operate in the love of Christ. He was a man of character and the love of Christ. I did have so many issues with John MacAuther’s teaching in strict judgment of others….women…gifts of the Holy Spirit, etc. My question is…do all Calvinist and those who follow Luther believe that the power of the Holy Spirit to use Christians to do miracles has ceased? (to be used to pray for the sick and they be healed, being used to pray and cast our evil spirits, etc.). Thanks for any incite. God bless you
Not all Calvinists are Cessationists but most of them are, and Calvinism is where that teaching originated from. I am so glad you phrased it as you did, that Christians are "used" by God for those miracles. Unlike Cessationists you understand that it is God with the power working through (using) a willing servant. It is not the person who has the power of miracles but only God and nobody can perform miracles on demand as leading voices of Cessationism often challenge people to do. They say, if you have the gift of healing then go into a Children's hospital and heal all those children. They don't realize their blasphemy is that they are not challenging a person, they are challenging God. They might as well say, okay God, if you still heal people then prove it by healing all these people right now so I can witness it and know you are not a liar. Jesus faced the same critics demanding a sign. Nothing has changed.
@@faithonfireministries Thank you so much for this explanation. I really appreciate all of your videos and it helps so much when I am seeing or reading teachers who I find questionable regarding their alignment with the gospel or biblical teaching. Praying for your continued ministry.
Well, keep in mind that he’s probably using his very own perversion of the Bible, and WHO KNOWS what it says? BTW, the gift in Eph 2:8-9 is not “the faith to believe”. It’s grace, salvation!
Apostle Paul taught about inability to believe: 2Cor 4:3-4 - And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing. The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
The Calvinist mind is ok with god sending and condemned most people to hell, as long as it isn't them. Therefore because the Reformed 5-Point Calvinist members refuses "WILL NOT" repent and be baptized they go through life thinking "THEY" are selected for salvation when they are "NOT!" I see so many of them on their death beds in total fear that perhaps they were not selected at all. Which is the only truth they ever speak of! True full blow Calvinists are not even saved let alone Christians. Christians are Christians! Calvinists are Calvinists! Mormons are Mormons! Calvinists believe god created all things, and controls all things, predetermined all things, and made all things exactly the way they are.... thus god also created evil! Therefore since Calvinists believe god created evil, they are blaspheming against the holy spirit ... the only unforgivable sin! Calvinists also believe the only people who will be saved have been predetermined by god. Since Calvinists believe god predetermined who will be saved ... they have removed free will - the gift of god to humans, which removes Jesus from the equation. Since god (according to Calvinists) has already determined who will be saved ... (and who will not be saved) ... those who will be saved do not need Christ and those who will not be saved cannot come to Christ, thus Calvinists are not Christians. Yet if they are still breathing and have a heart beat, they can turn to Christ and God will forgive them. A fool says in his heart that he is wise. A fool is seen for what he is by those with discernment. Reader know this, I post these things for you to be warned of the heresy people like this spew out. Their god is calvi-god and calvi-jesus which are a figment made up out of their deranged imagination. Jesus loves them and wants to save them they simply need to turn away from man and turn to Jesus and ask for forgiveness and follow Him. Simple. Truth in love Why would God send a prophet telling them to repent if it is God himself who decides whether they will repent or not? Calvinism is ridiculous.
@@trevorwood5433 Where at in these verse doez it say that they cannot believe, it doesn't. Also, at one point in time you were, just like everyone that has been born. That means at ine point in time, the gospel was hid to you, and the devil had you blinded also. 2 Corinthians 4:3-4 King James Version 3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: 4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
Calvinism conflicts John 3:16 (WHOSOEVER)16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Calvinism absolutely does not deny the whosoever in John 3:16. They would teach that who ever believes was previous to that belief made spiritually alive by the spirit of God. And if you look at the context of John 3:16 it does support a work of the holy spirit before belief. V6 says that which is born of flesh is flesh and that which is born of spirit is spirit v7 do not be amazed that I said to you, you must be born again. V8 the wind blows where it wishes and you hear the sound of it but do not know where it comes from or where it is going, so is everyone who is born of the spirit. And later in v19 it says this is the judgment, that the light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather then the light, for their deeds were evil.
What you did with Psalm 14 is assumed that those who seek after God and those who do not had a natural capacity with out Divine intervention to seek God. Then came back into Romans 3 and shoved that eisegesis into Romans 3:11-18 and skipped Romans 3:1-10 that shows Paul's intended Context.
The funny thing, on John Calvin's deathbed, he chose to second guess Calvinism. He was much younger, too. John Mc Arthur, who had better health over all, lived longer, and preached to more people than John Calvin could ever dream, doesn't.
I totally believe in the Calvinistic viewpoint... so I thought this guy is a HOOT!... it's nice to be able to see how the world defeds.. an anti Calvinistic viewpoint.. of course there are many who believe there is no HELL either.. because as they say... God would Not create a place to torture... and damn His creation.. those people pose the same argument.. God will Not destroy people He created for a reason... and according to this.. God does Not create people totally depraved unable to come to Him on their own... Proverbs 16:4 argues this... God most definitely has chosen some to remain depraved... Never to come to Him for a reason... so that His purposes may be fulfilled.. "The Lord hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil."
Isa. 65:1 I am sought of [them that] asked not [for me]; I am found of [them that] sought me not: I said, Behold me, behold me, unto a nation [that] was not called by my name.
Idk why his church isn't a calvanist church unless there are ashamed of being calvanist or as he said Stealthy calvinism. Seems wrong like his church sermon on Easter. I went to the church on Easter.
He wasn't defending depravity, he was describing the human condition. This has nothing to do with Calvinism, it's Scripture. Isaiah 64:6 But we are all like an unclean thing, And ALL OUR RIGHTOUSNESSES ARE LIKE FILTHY RAGS; We all fade as a leaf, And our iniquities, like the wind, Have taken us away. If you can't see that then you are truly blind. May God have mercy on your soul.
💥🤯 I believe we're dead in sin, for in sin were we conceived - as King David put it - and we're Adamic by nature, sinful, and our hearts evil continually. Recently I started watching John McCarthy, Steve Larson, R.C. Spoul (and others) and noticed they too taught on total depravity - so I started following these teachers; then I discovered your video (subscribed) and was shown these so-called "teachers" are taking scripture out of context regarding depravity! I thank God for bringing me to you, that you may/have shown me that Christ died for ALL mankind, and that salvation is for any who would call on the name of the Lord! John 3:16 🙌🏽 And I will certainly subscribe to True Church Ministry in support of our Brother! 🙏🏽 Mahalo bro! 😎🤙🏽
PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN!!!🤣 that's exactly how I saw the men leadership of Mormonism after I broke loose from their smoking mirrors!!!🤗
Look at the sheer joy for the Lord and the grace of God this man emanates. He indeed sounds like a dead man, when he is preaching. No hope, no joy, no Good news - all that comes out of the mouth of this heretic is condemnation.
Johnny MacArthur takes pretty much everything out of context to try and prove his garbage teachings.
The ultimate irony is that Macarthur runs "Grace Church Ministries" and has a radio show called "Grace To You", yet shows less grace than most people.
If consistent with his Calvinist doctrines it should be named "Grace to Few."
John MacArthur mocks God when he talks about grace.
So true! He only believes God has Grace for a certain group, not for all who believe. Just terrible!
@@clintmiles617 If you’re not one of God’s elects, there’s no grace for you.
Truth❤
The most striking feature of Calvinism is the proud and controlling spirit. It’s hard to understand how powerfully attractive that is to some people.
Yes, very true! Well said.
I've seen the same spirit in Evangelicals too. It's a striking feature of sinful man.
@@Schneebly743 As a group, Evangelicals have different and well-known challenges. I’m sure you have heard all of the criticism about emotionalism, loose interpretation of scripture, etc. As a group, their strong points are openness, honesty, and sincerely desiring to share the gospel. Individuals may have a proud and controlling spirit, but for example (generally speaking):
Evangelicals want to win converts and build mega-churches.
Calvinists want to win arguments with Arminians and take over their churches.
The only pride is in those thinking they chose God without His influence. Absolute pride to think you decided your way into his grace
God Chooses us... and we Choose God. Because it is impossible to please God apart from Faith!
John Calvin brought Muslim doctrines into Christianity. Calvinists worship a god closer to Allah than to the Triune God.
Do they not contradict themselves? They believe that you have no control over your salvation and that God predestined certainly ones to be saved and certainly ones to go to hell… Why are they even trying to defend what they believe ??? If God predestined and you don’t have no control, then don’t worry about it🤦♀️
Exactly!
Who, but John MacArthur, believes he is a chosen one? Why does John think he is chosen and “ to hell with the others”.
Exactly!! Not sure why they even hold church, or even debate.
@AVB2that's the truth
@@911tbf I do not think MacArthur Ever said "to hell with the others" as you so apply state it...
but there is something to consider... if we believe EVERYTHING written in the bible.. IS inspired... then that means it ALL MUST be 100% true..
Ephesians 1:4,5 tells us this...
4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
if we take this strictly on face value... then we must conclude that NO one will go to hell in the final judgement.. since God predestined US unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ...
then this would seem to state... we are ALL pre chosen by God to be with Him in heaven one day... right?..
if you believe some will go to hell when they die...
what separates those going to heaven from those going to hell?..
man's free will?.. then what you are saying.. man's free will is stronger than God's will for man... that man is capable of gong against God...
but how can we.. when in Jesus' prayer of John 17 He states He has not lost any that the Father has given Him...
" While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled."
this one being JUDAS
we must thereby deduct that Judas was one NOT chosen by God to have Jesus keep... correct?..
. and so we see that God DOES predetermine some to be lost..."so that scripture may be fulfilled.."..
which scripture..?.. there are many... how about this one?..
Proverbs 16:4
"The Lord hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil."
who are the wicked?... and when is the day of evil?..
in Job's day.. this happened the day when God gave Satan permission to torment Job.. for the rest of us.. it could be any time.. when the LORD needs His purposes to be fulfilled..
That is true, without the Holy Spirit promoting us and pulling at our heart string we can not believe nor will we ever believe.
I agree with you. However, the Calvinists whom I disagree with believe the Holy Spirit only does that to a few select people God already chose for salvation from the beginning of time, and when the Holy Spirit goes after these people at God's decreed moment they receive irresistible grace, a key doctrine of Calvinism which equates to forced salvation.
I’m not a Calvinist, which I always stayed away arguing with these people, but at one time I did listen to John MacArthur and supported his ministry because he is so big on some of these radio stations. It’s not much else to listen to. Which brings a point off that eventually you start believing the teachings and doctrines of these people because of nothing to listen to in the pre-Internet days lol.
But just a comment on this comment about the term “forced salvation” which I never heard until now lol but it made me think and make this comment and question what about Saul of Tarsus, who is chosen from his mothers womb, and yet in a way he was forced to surrender, which is one of the few unique ways that someone got saved, yet he still could’ve resisted the Lord (free will) instead of asking, who are you? He could’ve said how dare you blind me!
Just a quick thought that came to me. I’m so glad that someone is in their right mind exposing this false teacher. I’ve done the same for quite some time to these “cultic” John MacArthurites in FB or YT.
Keep the faith! 😊
Saul of Tarsus didn't reject the Lord Jesus. He called Him Lord. Although he had been persecuting Jesus Saul of Tarsus correctly acknowledged Him.
Correct. But the Holy Spirit woos and pulls and calls EVERYONE. If someone wants to resist and reject that wooing that is their choice. God does not force His love on anybody.
@@faithonfireministries AMEN! Keep teaching the truth.
Calvinist are a special kind of mean. I know I was married to one.
Get a concordance and look up the number of times "seek the Lord," "sought the Lord," "seeks the Lord," "seeking the Lord," "sought God," "seek God," "seeks God" or "seeking God" appears. You will be overwhelmed.
@@AbBowhunter Who they apply to is humanity and God. People seeking the Lord.
@@AbBowhunter Anybody who want to find the Lord. Thousands. Millions. Maybe billions. If you want names, I can't help you. There's too many.
Dave, excellent point.
@@AbBowhunter No "special" group. Anyone can seek God.
Tackling their proof texts in this fashion is very helpful.
Thank you
God bless you brother!
Just coming out of Calvinist church recently here in the Philippines.
Amen! God bless you!
@@faithonfireministries John Calvin called and he wants you back! LOL Just kidding. :)
Calvinism is as clear as mud:
God picks people to be saved from eternity past, but still requires them to believe in his son who died for them only. At the same time he grants them the belief they need to believe, because they can't believe, even though he told them to believe. Then he makes sure they continue to believe, even though they were chosen to believe.
Regeneration precedes faith. Always.
@@abuelb show me one verse that confirms regeneration proceeds faith.
I always thought MacArthur was dry and circular. To be honest, there was nothing edifying about his sermons. It makes sense
the other popular Calvinist TV preacher, such as Piper are also.
I was driving home from a job one day o I5 in Oregon and as I was going through Albany I was listening to MacArthur not because i like listening to him but for the purpose of learning how to know exactly how to understand the mechanics of his gnostic philosophy AND i heard him say “ if God had wanted to save every one, I would not feel all that important “. That’s the mind of a self centered narcissist to the nth degree. Just another example of his prideful arrogance. I would not want to be in his shoes at the great white throne judgement.
Yep, well said.
Yes...they are the special elect....very special....hell will be hotter for this false arrogant type
I always say that John MacArthur is a narcissist! He also looks so dark to me. It’s because he’s preaching the doctrine of Satan. He said that during the tribulation if people take the Mark of the Beast they can still be saved!
I was from a Hindu background and an atheist from my science academics. There is no chance I would have ever accepted Jesus as my Lord via religious teachings from Christians like John MacArthur. However, the Charisms of the Holy Spirit and speaking in Tongues followed by signs, wonders, and miracles led me to affirm Jesus as per Romans 10:9.
I honestly believe the truth in John 14:12 and other scriptures in the Bible. How can one miss it?
It's a shame, even when his health is failing, instead of preaching the simple gospel, he preaches Tulip.
I have watched McArthur, he condemns people constantly ,and especially women......
In the first clip, John MacArthur essentially read a passage of scripture and summarized it then the video host said MacArthur defended total depravity. I don’t think I heard the words total depravity come out of MacArthur’s mouth. If you are going to accuse a man of some error you need to present the facts. You didn’t. I quit watching at 3:54.
You havent???😮 wow! His gospel is based on that!!! What videos have you been watching? Also....check his Q & A. He will surprise you with his answers
😂😂😂😂. JM literally says the doctrine of depravity, if you’re missing small things like that, then apologetics might be something you don’t comment on lol. I can see why calvanists are still relevant.
@@raymondhandboy4730 I am not arguing in favor of Calvinism. I am arguing against extrapolating what Calvinists teach by making references to phrases they don’t use. The doctrine of depravity has a meaning. It is often not the meaning ascribed to it.
Your demeaning statement against me shows the belittling attitude that many bring to the discussion. You need to get rid of that and address what people actually say. Not your strawman of what they said.
Show me where MacArthur says “total depravity”. Simple.
Total depravity to a Calvinist essentially means that every aspect of a person is impacted by sin.
@@raymondhandboy4730 And just like most posters here, you criticize things never said and ignore the things actually said. In that scoffing manner, you will never gain understanding.
@@bk1bennett Macarthur teaches the Tulip. The "T" stands for total depravity. Of course he teaches it.
Calvinists follow a devil who delighted in the burning of people at the stake. Calvin was an evil, wicked man.
Psalm 14:4 KJV
[4] Have all the workers of iniquity no knowledge? Who eat up my people as they eat bread, and call not upon the LORD.
It is correct that the apostle Paul quoted from the psalms AND isaiah in Romans 3. I am just curious that when he wrote "No one is righteous, not one", you interpret it that he only referred to the fools and the wicked as a context. Isn't it that when we say "no one", it meant no one?
David wrote in Psalm 14:3 that "They have ALL turned aside, together they have become corrupt, there is none who does good, not even one", with the previous verse stating that the Lord looks down from the heavento see IF there are those who understand, who seek God?
If context is what we are looking for, we need to quote the rest of Psalm 14? Psalm 14:1 is the starting statement for what David was to expound on, that no one does good, not one seeks God.
It is not good to accuse someone of false teaching when what he said is consistent with the Word of God.
I think you misquoted Psalm 14: 1. It says, "The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good." That is the starting point and the group to whom David is referring to as Psalm 14 continues. So, when Paul quotes this in Romans 3, the "no one" in the group is literally the same type of person to whom David was referring to, which are the people who don't believe in God and were persecuting God's people who were the true believers. The Bible, not me, defines who "no one" is referring to. I am just reporting what the Bible says. Ignoring the correct context is just typical of Calvinists who can't get a single Bible doctrine correct it seems because they are constantly reading the Bible and misinterpreting isolated texts solely for the purpose of making it fit their man-made ideology.
King David was speaking about those who don't believe in God and are fools, and he was not referring to every person alive like Calvinists claim. The context is even in the quote from Paul whom he is referring to in Romans 3 if you would just read on a little bit and not through the lens of Calvinism but just by the words on the page. Paul was not referring to born again believers. Christians, whether Jew or Gentile, have been made new in Christ, became a child of God, been redeemed and forgiven and are seen by God in the perfect righteousness of Christ. It seems this Christianity 101 basic concept is totally lost on Calvinists who think everyone is wicked and hates God with feet swift to shed blood and destruction and misery are in their ways. Nope, that simply is not true of real Christians.
None of us are born as Christians. However, in David's time they were born into God's chosen people. Even then, there were jews that failed and were unrighteous and they needed to atone for their sins during yam kapur. (Probably spelt that wrong)
Another way to look at it is that all of us, not born a jew, are not chosen by God. And by default, we are not brought up knowing God. So NO ONE can save themselves with their OWN righteousness; as Paul was explaining.
But let's take that to the side and think more of David. Was he righteous? He murdered a man to get that man's wife. Yet believed in God and was still righteous enough to save himself without Grace, but only on the grounds of knowing God?
We all fall short of the kingdom of God, and it's only those that put their faith in the death and resurrection of Christ to cover our sins and make us righteous in the sight of the Father.
To claim to be saved by only knowing there is a God, yet not being born again, letting your soul and mind and heart be made new.... that is a fool.
@@clinttaylor8730are you under the impression that the Jews are still the Chosen People?
The context for all Old Testament is before regeneration by the indwelling Holy Spirit. Now true Believers in Jesus are called the righteousness of God. Things have changed since the Day of Pentecost, if we mix Gods Promises with faith !
Yip the old testament is still quoted "as paul did" in the new testament as guidance for us. If you deny that then you might as well deny the cross. Really
Finding your RUclips channel and listening to you , I have peace in my heart again because I found Justin Peters channel first and I began to hate the prosperity preachers God did not call me to hate anyone ( to be clear I think prosperity preachers are false ) but I began to question my own salvation, Everytime I watched Justin I went away with this deep disturbing feeling in my spirit I felt hopeless, when I watched him attacking children is when I knew something wasn't quite right and by the grace of God I found your channel , Thank you so much
Peters is a MacArthur supporter.
Most believers are missing the gospel message of grace. Dr. Andrew Farley brought it home to me. His gospel message of grace opened my eyes. He is on all social media.
I have seen Calvinism sweep into numerous churches and absolutely stop evangelism and the fire of evangelism! They are two things that are eternal in this world and that is the Word of God and the souls of men! We make it so difficult when it is so simple. Seems like the church is often interested in programs when God is made it so simple to exegate the Word of God and reach as many people as we can with the glorious gospel of Jesus Christ! Matthew 6:33
Disciples of Branham don't share the gospel to sinners but when a sinner repent they divert him to their Calvinist doctrine.
There's no worst teaching than calvinism.
Uniquely Calvinistic doctrine is false, but don't overstate your case. Although uniquely Calvinistic theology is false and harmful, it leaves the gospel intact and is therefore still within orthodox Christianity. If you were more careful with your phrasing you'd say something to the effect of "There's no worse teaching *within orthodox Christianity* than Calvinism", but I don't think even that would be true. There are some very much just barely on-this-side-of-the-line liberal Christians that just technically believe the gospel and get just about everything else wrong; surely that's worse than Calvinism.
@@LawlessNate you obviously dont understand calvinism
@@justinerasmus8725No, I understand Calavinism. I understand the gospel, too. Explain to me why people who put their faith in Christ are somehow terrible simply for being mistaken about how they came to that faith.
The important thing is having faith and putting that faith where it belongs. Calvinists do that.
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@@LawlessNate ....
Little tip for both of y'all,.. 🙏🙏...
"If you're guilty of breaking one... Are you not guilty of breaking the whole?"....
" Total depravity"?... The doctrine uses some scriptures.... And ignores many many others.
That can hardly be considered.." being true to the gospel"...
Jesus said "IF you love me keep my Commandments."...
Almost every Christian I encounter on RUclips doesn't even believe it's necessary to obey Jesus. Or even what his "Commandments" are 🧐...
How does one repent of sin... If he defines what sin is himself?
On one hand we have Jesus, the Son of the living God.... On the other, the Pope and all his minions....
Read the Bible... The whole Bible... And believe every Word...
And you will learn that "choice" began in the garden... The whole world is deceived, and choosing wrong.
May the Lord have mercy on us all 🙏
John is totally wrong...........calvinism is like adventism both are another gospel
Seventh-Day adventism?. . Don't get me started bro! I've studied the doctrines of all the major denominations of the so-called Reformation... ain't none of them very pretty! 😂🤣 But if you think keeping God's is "Cultish"... You might want to do some more " thinking"🤣🤣 after a lot more reading! 👍🙏😍
Agreed.
Yes do tell how SDA who go by Helen White’s “prophecies” isn’t cultist. Go ahead, I’ll grab the popcorn.
@@jimhughes1070it’s lies and you got a false prophetess and a sorcerer and sorcerers go in the pit and you get the reward of who you follow.
@@WilliamH490
As I stated previously brother... I used to know the doctrines of all the major denominations... Well over 90% can't read a calendar...
I would not wear the stamp of any one of them... If I'm not mistaken... The prophecies that Ellen g White made ... Those dates have come and gone.. I admit to making fun of her a little bit since Jesus himself said that he didn't know the day...
John tells you at the beginning of his gospel... "Jesus Christ is the Word of God manifest in flesh"...
The day of his return is not in the Word... I am unaware of sorcerers and witches
Being sanctioned in their literature... But you can bet I'm going to look it up to see if you're blowing smoke.
On the other hand 😎
The pope demands that you believe in a three-headed God... And worship on the first day of the week...
"The greatest Mark the Catholic church ever made on the planet"... So yes... One must be very careful if he chooses to follow someone... Instead of just read the whole Bible and believe the whole Bible... The route I always advise...
Why?.. because that's the route Jesus Himself recommended...
A lot!! 👍😎
And while we're at it...
The Owner and Judge of all the Earth has full knowledge of everything He ever said... Only He has the wisdom and understanding to determine who belongs to a cult.
If we would like to avoid being deceived...
Then we should love what Jesus says... And know what those Words are. (There's a bunch of them in the Gospels... They're printed in red in my Bible).... But if I start quoting Jesus I don't have to start dodging the arrows and stones from the "Christians"...
Again,.. I apologize for not being clear...
Hating on people because they want to obey God is not wise...
Good job! I have been in a Calvinist (Reformed) church and made good friends there. But the ultimate truth is that Calvinists always think that being saved requires only one condition and that is having the 'correct' doctrine. A moment's reflection should be enough for people to realise that salvation requires a right relationship with God and therefore has nothing to do with doctrine.
Tnx a lot for this. This is a proper reconciliation of scripture. You made my day.
These calvinists are truly deceived.
Yes, you said it! They are indeed.
I watched his teaching about SIN- My conclusion is the problem is us believers we listen to prophets and pastors who condemn us, who don't preach the good news but bad news, they use the scripture where it talks about sin to rub it in that we are sinners and we're going to hell, BUT only Jesus Christ was without sin and there is no how we're going to be perfect like him. The Good News is that Jesus is there for us sinners who believe in him, He came to the world for us sinners and he is with us even now, His work was done on the cross. I am not justifying sin but we can't let sinners like us condemn us. We can't live in bondage of fear (fear of sinning) while Jesus said we're free indeed. We're not under the law but under grace. This narrow path is a journey, so God's mercies on us are renewed daily.
@@Frieden-durch-Jesus Very True, they are doing works of satan, condemnation ministry.
Excellent! Thank you.
Blessings! Thanks for the encouraging word.
“So then He has mercy on whom He desires, and He hardens whom He desires. You will say to me then, “Why does He still find fault? For who resists His will?” On the contrary, who are you, O man, who answers back to God? Will the thing molded say to the molder, “Why did you make me like this”? Or does not the potter have authority over the clay, to make from the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use? And what if God, wanting to demonstrate His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much patience vessels of wrath having been prepared for destruction, and in order that He might make known the riches of His glory upon vessels of mercy, which He prepared beforehand for glory-”
Romans 9:18-23
I’m curious on your interpretation of these verses
Keep reading onto chapter 11.
“For God has committed them all to disobedience, 👉that He might have mercy on all.👈”
Romans 11:32 NKJV
Romans 9 is about God hardening Israel to crucify Jesus.
Also.
When Paul spoke of the potter, he was referring to Jeremiah’s analogy in Jeremiah 18. The clay in Jeremiah is Israel and Israel was given a choice. God’s hardening is CONDITIONAL.
“The word which came to Jeremiah from the Lord, saying: “Arise and go down to the potter’s house, and there I will cause you to hear My words.” Then I went down to the potter’s house, and there he was, making something at the wheel. And the vessel that he made of clay was marred in the hand of the potter; so he made it again into another vessel, as it seemed good to the potter to make. Then the word of the Lord came to me, saying: “O house of Israel, can I not do with you as this potter?” says the Lord. “Look, as the clay is in the potter’s hand, so are you in My hand, O house of Israel! The instant I speak concerning a nation and concerning a kingdom, to pluck up, to pull down, and to destroy it, 👉if that nation against whom I have spoken turns from its evil, I will relent of the disaster that I thought to bring upon it.👈 And the instant I speak concerning a nation and concerning a kingdom, to build and to plant it, if it does evil in My sight so that it does not obey My voice, then I will relent concerning the good with which I said I would benefit it.”
Jeremiah 18:1-10 NKJV
@AVB2 you misunderstand my point. Even if Jeremiah was talking about Christians, the verses in Jeremiah still offer us a choice. Read what I pointed to with the little hand emojis.
@AVB2 someone liked my comment so I guess I’m revisiting this thread. Sounds like you think the elect have a choice to leave God’s salvation?
@AVB2 amen brother
1 Thessalonians 5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
Calvinism is wrong! Bible is so clear God came to save ALL Mankind and wishes NO ONE to parish. Why would God than choose who is to be saved and others send to Hell, total contradiction!!. God is not an author of confusion. Macarthur, Washer, Sproul and Piper are preaching a false Gospel!
All you need to say: Tell us what he said or let us hear what he said and then bring us to Gods Word and explain where John was wrong. The danger is, if you speak too much you will weary your listeners and clutter the truth on this matter; the little of you the better. You say a lot before you bring Gods Word in. This will be helpful, if you consider, what I’ve said.
The preachers in Nehemiah chapter 8 verse 8 shows us how this preaching should be done. “So they read in the book in the law of God distinctly, and gave the sense, and caused them to understand the reading.”
Far to mush chatter from you, telling us what you are going to do. Prepare yourself before God and be his spokesperson.
We should, as it were, speak and walk timidly, it is true many of Gods teachers are bringing out untruths, these days, But because they are servants to Him; we should have restraint and speak with this verse in mind, “Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.” Romans 14 verse 4
Finally, we know the scriptures are profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.
Thank you brother for another fantastic teaching. Calvinism is truly diabolical ideas that misrepresent the character of God and it’s so misleading and distorted. I subscribed to Shade, he has a mighty powerful testimony.
Wonderful! Thanks so much. God bless you!
@@faithonfireministries
They never use the book of Psalms. "It is written" they so miss the fact that you have to have a heart for God a genuine heart towards God. They miss that entirely. A lot of people who defend Calvinism do not express love that people have. The Word of God pierces your heart. God even says "the peoples hearts wax cold"
Apostle Paul taught about inability to believe:
2Cor 4:3-4 - And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing.
The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
@@trevorwood5433 that passage is about the “god” of this world that has blinded people” that is referring to satan. Not God! God gave satan time in our earthly realm to take willing captives. He wanted to be like God!! This is why everyone needs the gospel. Salvation is for everyone. Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. Gods plan is for everyone to go through Christ.
@@womanatthewell9603 - that's exactly what I am saying. Men are kept under Satan's bondage until God breaks through with the light of the glory of the Gospel of Christ. God has handed all men over to disobedience that he may have mercy on all.
If God is author of our salvation, then why do some die unsaved ? Because God did not author their salvation !!!!
Brian, it's true the 'proof text' backNforth has been 'done' a hundred times BUT... it's still important to keep refreshing it. Calvinists are like political progressives... the ideology never stops.... There's always someone who just heard about it this afternoon for the first time. Calvinists got a 'leg up'' on RUclips years ago and we're running to catch up... gaining.. but still not 'there' yet. I'm convinced that continuing to put up new material, even on the old subject, keeps it 'relevant' in the search and Al Gore rythmnses 😎And 'your' presentation may be the one which helps someone see clearly and avoid getting caught up in the web of the reformed. Too many people have never heard the sermon "what's wrong with Calvinism" and they're totally unprepared for the well crafted out-of-context arguments of the Calvinist trying to confuse them about how they got saved in the first place.
I'm always posting with the silent 3rd party reader in mind... and I sometimes get messages from persons who were totally absent in the comments sections, thanking me for something I posted which was helpful in seeing through the 'fog' of Calvinism, even as much as 2yrs after I posted it.
Keep it up.. you're doing great.
Great point, you convinced me of the importance to do it.
@@faithonfireministries I like Kevin Thompson's focus on the puzzling idea of 'why' do some Christians fall for Calvinism and it's similarities with with other odd ideologies, like Marxism, etc. You probably saw Leighton's recent posting of a letter he received thanking him for a video he did quite some time ago which had one point out of an hour.😎.. that caused them to stop and rethink it... and that was the catalyst which paved their way of escape. In the same way that you may witness Christ to a nonbeliever I could never reach, and vice versa, your individual 'take' on the flaws and errors of Calvinism can be the key that unlocks a door which others may never offer. Carry on, ... Say, what's that guitar in the background?
“Calvinists are like political progressives”. Yes; Romans 14 excuses their sincere excesses of interpretation, but not their tactics.
Brian-thanks for talking about the total depravity of Calvinism which is total inability. The Calvinists used Romans 3. Psalms 14, David talked about a God-denying person. And Paul talked about Psalms 14 in Romans 3. Very good, Brian.
So Paul and David are talking about UNBELIEVERS, just like the calvinist. Until God grants repentance and faith, the unbeliever can't respond positively to the Gospel.
Nope, can't even see how you read the Calvinistic doctrine of Total Depravity into this text the way you did. Another example of what I have said many times... Bible believers start by reading the Bible to learn from what it has to say but Calvinists start with their false doctrines in mind and then read the Bible trying to find any way to insert their doctrines into the text and learn nothing from God's Word.
"For the Gentiles who do not have the Law DO INSTINCTIVELY the things if the Law, these, not having the Law, are a Law to themselves, in that they show the work of the Law WRITTEN IN THEIR HEARTS, their conscience bearing witness and their thoughts alternately accusing or else defending them.". These passages debunked Total Depravity. God has written His Law into the hearts of men and men does it(Law) instinctively and because of this men has the ability to response to God positively.
TULIP is purpose built to remove man’s requirement to believe the Gospel.
T - removes our requirement to believe in Jesus (says we can’t)
U - removes our requirement to believe in Jesus (says we’re already saved)
L - removes our requirement to believe in Jesus (says Jesus atonement wasn’t for all sin just the chosen, back to point U)
I - removes our requirement to believe in Jesus (says we can’t believe God will make us believe)
P - removes our requirement to believe in Jesus. (Says God will make us preserve)
Any teaching that removes our requirement to believe in Christ, and takes the focus off Christ alone for salvation is a false teaching.
If anyone has to question if their family and friends are “elect” their hope for salvation is not in Christ alone, it’s in “election”.
In Calvinism Christs work on the cross takes a back seat to “election”. Of course Calvinists will not say this, but it is what it is.
Well said. You understand Calvinism much better than most Calvinists do. Calvinism has a subtle but real seducing and bewitching spirit about it. It takes spiritual maturity and discernment to recognize that. It's so sad how many Calvinists have been bewitched and lost their ability to think straight and realize the actual implications of the utter nonsense they claim to adhere to.
@@faithonfireministries I honestly think Calvinisim is one of the enemies most masterful deceptions.
Imagine interpreting scripture in such a way that it removes Christ alone for salvation, (but leaves Him in there just enough to seem true), defames the character of God himself, and does all of this in the name of Gods Sovereignty.
Yep, doesn't get much worse than that.
Is my thought on this correct? please let me know thanks...
Calvinists', when quoting Romans 8:30..."and those whom he predestined he also called"...YOU need to go back to verse 29, "For those whom he FOREKNEW he also predestined to be conformed..." In other words, God called us because he already knew we would believe so he predestined us to be the image of his Son and do good works. Verse 29 seems to be left out when quoting Romans 8:30 regarding Calvinist's? God Bless
what also bothers me is how Calvinist use Romans 3, as if that still applies to us as believers! No, all have sinned and fall short of the glory God, and there is none righteous no not one, is the state of man before we got saved by Christ or without Christ. But Romans 4 starts off by saying, WE, being believers, have been justified with Christ. Paul also says in 2 Cor 5:17-21 that we are now the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus. So as believers, we are righteous now in Christ! So, do we miss it and sin from time to time, yes, and do we fall short yes, but we are righteous in Christ now, so Romans 4 is where we are. Romans 3 is the state of man without Christ, proving ALL need Christ both Jew and Gentiles alike, that's the context. not that all are still scumbags whether you are saved or not. No! When we are saved, we are righteous now, if not, what is the difference between the saved and unsaved? thanks.
What does it even matter to him if they're denying total depravity in the way that he believes it? Cause no one can make any decisions on their own anyway. 🤷♀️
That, and on calvinisim, everything is determined by God. Which means, God determined that person to do that for his own glory. Which brings me to my other point. James White says, that Gid determined evil to happen, and if God didn't do that, then it is purposeless evil (even though the purpose of evil is evil,) then he says, this is all done for God's glory. So, either way, calvinists talk out of both sides of their mouths. They say that people are robbing God of his glory, while at the sametime saying, everything that is done, God gets the glory for it. They don't make any sense.
I might as well add my two cents in just the comments by itself to say that for years as a former listener supporter of John, MacArthur, just the cessationism alone, got me away from him and his supporters. Now when I come across his supporters, it is no different than when you come across a Jehovah witness, a Scientologist, or a Mormon. I had a friend who was a Calvinist and I repeat HAD but it had nothing to do with Calvinism, but him ripping apart, making posts against our Prime Minister, which the Scriptures clearly opposes.
But anyways these followers of John MacArthur refuse to change. They refuse to basically even listen to you no matter what scriptures you show them because they’ll have “their scriptures.”
On and on back-and-forth, banging your head against the wall, there comes a time or even Paul kicked the dust off his feet and just kept walking to the next city.
It’s the same with these Calvinists that you can waste tons and tons of your life to no avail , when you could do something productive, like go fishing, go hiking, make a water colour painting, make a delicious meal for your wife and give her lots of kisses afterwards.
But to sit there for hours on RUclips or on Facebook arguing with these cult members of John MacArthur‘s elite group is a complete waste of time.
Redeem your time for the days are evil. Because you won’t be able to get it back. I know it.
I agree with much of your sentiment, except that occasionally one of those cult members actually breaks free because they started reading the Bible for themselves instead of have the distorted Calvinist perspective spoon fed to them. But mainly the point of speaking out against the dangers of Calvinism is so newer Christians will be warned to understand what it is all about so they see the red flags and avoid going down that path.
Calvinist : if you don’t think God chooses who He will save then why did God prevent Paul from preaching in Asia?
Answer : If God chooses who He saves according to what He has determined from eternity past, He wouldn’t need to prevent Paul from preaching to certain people because according to Calvinism a person does not believe by hearing, but by God enabling them through regeneration. God preventing Paul from preaching in Asia at that time had nothing to do with preventing people from believing
There's danger thinking that everyone does not sin.
”And he said unto me, Son of man, can these bones live? And I answered, O Lord GOD, thou knowest. Again he said unto me, Prophesy upon these bones, and say unto them, O ye dry bones, hear the word of the LORD. Thus saith the Lord GOD unto these bones; Behold, I will cause breath to enter into you, and ye shall live: and I will lay sinews upon you, and will bring up flesh upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and ye shall live; and ye shall know that I am the LORD.“
Ezekiel 37:3-6 KJV
We are spiritually dead people! Read your Bible! John 3 ”Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.“ and Eph 2 ”And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;“
Old John as all calvinists trying to make the Bible agree with calvinism.
Funny John, MacArthur says “they can’t even be Christians at all and how sad that is to mislead them.”Well what difference does it make? Why, because if you’re not going to heaven anyway and they’re all going to hell- why would that be sad. At least those who aren’t Calvinist gave them hope on earth until they go to hell… right?
"Atheism is the fruit of Macarthurism". If total depravity is correct, then every thought, word, deed, no matter of its intention, needs to be repented of, including any interpretation of the bible. Every conversion experience, as well, is housed out of depravation, and is thus corrupted. Thus every thought of Jesus is thus corrupted, and needs to be repented of.
Brother I just subscribed to your channel. I hope you cover all of the points the Calvinists teach. Also I would like to apologize to you for some words I said to you on another livestream, I learned you were right all along the hard way. God bless you brother.
These comments are from people who are confused
Except a man be born again from God, he can not see the kingdom of heaven
i was a Hebrew Israelite years ago and went I came out of it Calvinism was the natural progression. It feels so good to be free of Calvinism and stop believing that Jesus didn't die for Everyone.
I appreciate some light being shed on this topic, it has helped me understand even more what is being taught and how to refute it. GOD BLESS YOU SIR!!!
Romans uses the phrase that none seek after God in referring to Jews and Gentiles. It is a reference from Psalms but Paul uses it in reference to Jews and Gentiles (everyone) not modern Bible teachers. You have ignored the context of Romans 3.
Just went too the link and subbed to the True Church ⛪ Ministry, Done ✔ and I'll watch it as soon as I'm done here.
Great, thanks!
I'm no fan of jmac, but in the clip he does not say "Total Depravity" there is a difference between someone preaching a false prosperity gospel saying man is basically good and a calvinist inserting "total depravity" into a text. I think jmac was speaking of the prosperity proclaimer in that clip. I know several calvinist who put him on a pedestal,but even though they disagree with my Provisionist beliefs they have never accused me of being or treated me as an unbeliever. ALL CHRISTIANS need to stop with the infighting, it is does NOTHING to win the lost or glorify CHRIST. 1 Cor. 2:2
Right on brother people focus to much on the me points and not that there are people lost that haven't heard the gosple
Your breakdown of the Text is perfect. Thank you, Please if you could keep these coming. You truly have been a Blessing too me and to help me, even coming from someone like myself who has always studied out of the NASB 😁 🙏
The gospel states we are forgiven and saved by repentance and faith, not “election.”
And that anyone who brings a false gospel is condemned and cursed.
In truth, would you say MacArthur and any Calvinist for that matter is saved?
Funny you ask that. I have a video I just recorded earlier today and it will be coming out next week, maybe Tuesday or Thursday (we shall see as I have not scheduled it just yet) in which that is the subject... Are Calvinists Saved? I walk through the Scripture on salvation and what the Gospel is and what it means to believe in the death, burial and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ in accordance with Scripture as it says in 1 Cor 15: 3,4. "In accordance with Scripture" which Paul wrote in those verses is the focus of the video. We know Calvinists believe in Jesus, but do they believe in Jesus, in particular in his death on the cross in accordance with Scripture? I think this will be a very compelling video for many to watch. God bless you!
Who gives faith and repentance?
calvinism reminds me of gnostic teachers
Dr. R.C. Sproul argued in his Essentials of the Christian Faith that total depravity is not utter depravity. We are not as wicked as we possibly could be said Sproul. His view on total depravity aligns more with the Bible
Brian 1st, I appreciate your drawing awareness to another brother (Shade).
2nd, Great break down of Romans 3. Calvinists have to contrive, conflate & prevaricate so many passages to "TRY" & give validity to their man-made theological system. Looking forward to more videos on how they've highjacked so many comprehensive passages, that end up confusing saints & turn our Heavenly Father into an arbitrary Evil Step Dad.
Amen, we know Paul quoted the Old Testament, Due to common sense, he was
a trained at the San Hadrian prior to conversion.
He takes the teaching from the Old Testament,
Because the New had not been completed.
How illogical was the sermon on total depravity?
MacArthur threatens those who do not believe in this junk.
But being totally depraved is reprobate anyway.
I would like to hear MacArthur explain Salvation out of this debacle of a sermon.
Great Job Brian on the cross reference, with Psalms!
Amen.
Thanks, great insight. God bless you!
Thank you. I need prayers because I think I really dont like this man one bit. Thank you for telling the truth about him. 🌹 so true what you say.
To deny God's absolute sovereignty and our total depravity is heresy
You think God determines all evil and sin if you believe in “absolute sovereignty” like most Calvinists do but I know the Bible is clear. Satan is behind sin and evil. Not God. So it is Calvinism that is in fact heresy. You will answer to God one day for calling Him evil and the reason for miser and rape, etc in order that He received glory through that evil. That is sick! The Calvinists who teach that are sick and nothing but wolves.
I never said I was Calvinist. Scripture is clear . If you chose on your own corrupt free will to choose God's claims on your life --- you will stand before God and your mouth will be STOPPED. Clear scripture
I so love that every reliable teacher I have been led to is reading from the KJV. To be fair, I believed the lies about modern translations being from the "oldest and best" manuscripts for over 10 years. Until I begged the Lord to help me understand why there were so much confusion and debate. I read a different translation year after year, sometimes 4 at a time to get "the full meaning" of the text, searching blue letter for the Greek and Hebrew, watching endless debates. Then a sister in Christ gifted us a KJV Bible for our newborn son and I began to read...Every Word from the mouth of God matters. Make sure you are not reading an interpretation, with at least 10% of the words changed solely to be able to obtain a copyright and make money.
The KJV IS a modern translation. There were sixteen centuries of salvation history before it was composed.
The Bible wasn't written in English. The KJV isn't as accurate of a representation of God's word as the original texts were in Hebrew, Greek, and Aramic. By comparing English translations to the original texts they were written in, we can know that the KJV isn't the most accurate translation of the Bible. It's certainly good enough and there's barely any functional difference between it and other more modern translations, but the newer English translations based on more recent manuscript evidence are objectively more accurate, albeit very slightly and in just a handful of verses.
I don't like the KJV personally. The translation itself is fine; the substance is there. However, in addition to the substance there's also the fluff of "thee"s and "thou"s. The KJV trains people to want fluff, and there's a huge issue with much of humanity that when they seek for God they seek for fluff instead of substance. They will go to a church based on how beautiful the building is instead of how accurate the teaching is inside. They will go to the place that makes them feel good instead of the place that properly uses God's word to inspire conviction of their sin.
Man you are truly standing against these liers
I would also state, yes, no one is good, as in sinless. 1 Kings 8:46, 2 Chronicles 6:36, Ecclesiastes 7:20, and Romans 3:23 later on in the chapter, states the same. But, it does NOT say, (like a Calvinist would have to affirm) that we can't repent toward God, and believe toward Jesus Christ (Acts 20:21). God gives that option to everyone (1 Timothy 4:10, 2 Peter 3:9). (Calvinists state they believe in repentance, but they say one has to be passive repentance, basically, God has to repent you, not you repent toward God. Weird stuff.)
Looking forward too this one, your doing a Awesome job with all the content. Blessings 🙏 in Christ Jesus Our Lord & Savior.
Thanks so much for the words of encouragement! Much appreciated. God bless you!
@@faithonfireministries Absolutely, I'm watching 👀 your Video right now as I'm writing this too you. Keep fighting the good fight of the faith, you have helped and Blessed me so very much.
Quick question in verse one the text states it is speaking of fools, then in verse 2 it is speaking about the sons of men, would that not change who David is speaking of?
I use to listen to him, because some of his teaching are good, but it ended very fast at one sermon, where he said that there wont be animals in Heaven, that was the last time, because I know the bible, so I could find so many chapters about animals in Heaven, so that ended my interest for him.......
Wow, I did not know he ever said that. Crazy, but then again he has said many outrageous statements that are directly refuted in Scripture.
@@Frieden-durch-Jesus You can find it so many places in the bible, but you have to read it, and seek wisdom, because God is spirit.
Do you think that God would create a world full of wonderful animals of all kind and cizes, and let them die for good.
Read Phalms 36-7 50-10-11 74-19 96-12 104-det hele 148 dte hele.
People fear crogs and the hippo, but in the book of Job, you can read chapter 40 and 41 all of it, and read Gods blessing of those big dangerous animals.
My old arabian horse was 30 years old when he asked to go home, not in words but in his eyes, and God told me that he had to go.
I cryed because I was mourning my old friend, but I saw him and his old friend in a dream, not as old horses, but as young new creations.
God loves the animals, and He know that many people love and care for them, so of course He wont separate them for good, no He will let us join our pets in Heaven, that is if we go there, but if you know the bible, you know what it takes to go there.
Dont let anybody fool you or lie to you, let God show what you need to know to find peace in your heart.
Why do you think some animals are very intelligent, and actually knows more about death than humans, let me tell you why, they come from Heaven as Gods creation, so they know, it is as simple as that.
God bless you my friend and dont take my words for it, seek God, and he will answer......
He a also said one could take the mark of the beast and still be saved...
14:38 - What Bible are you using? There's no Ephesians 8. My Holy Bible has 6 Chapters only in Ephesians.
At 15:01 just seconds later I corrected that by saying Romans 8. So, you are just being stupid, hyper critical.
Thank you! Praise God he lead me to you and Joshua Chavez.
I had only listened JM and JP before I never have believed calvinist.
John McArthur, also said, you can take the mark of the beast, and still go to heaven. That's not scriptural!
You are right, it is not based in Scripture but for John MacArthur it is based in Calvinism which is more important to him than what God says. The main point of Calvinism is to present intellectual philosophies that undermine the authority of Scripture through fancy commentaries written by unbelievers.
I watched MacArthur make that claim that a person who is saved can take the mark of the beast in the end times and still go to heaven. Understand, the reason for his logic is based upon an unbiblical view of Calvinism which teaches unconditional election. They think God chose from the beginning of time everyone who will be saved (Elect) and everyone who will go to hell, and nothing can change that, even if the Elect takes the mark of the beast. In the cult MacArthur belongs to even the people who swear allegiance to the Antichrist and the Beast and take the mark of the beast will be saved and go to heaven if they are part of the Elect chosen by God from the foundation of the world.
@@faithonfireministries I don't know if it was his Calvinism that led him down that path, because if you listen to it there was a lot of "I think" and "I believe" in there. His Calvinism impacted it, but I believe he was leaning to his own understanding there, starting off at a bad point and then reasoning through it using his own thought processes. Either way, it was totally antithetical to clear words of Scripture. But, it's like Kevin Thompson said: calvinism is a philosophical system designed to make you disbelieve Scripture.
Are you saying that taking the mark of the beast is an unforgivable sin? Total rejection, and dying in that rejection is the only unforgivable sin. That being said, it would certainly be unlikely.
Still watching and adding a like to each new video you place up on RUclips Brian 👍. The Wiz of Oz analogy is spot on! Part of the elitism of Calvinist leaders, is their extremely mistaken idea of also having much greater Biblical knowledge than anyone in true Christianity. BTW: I subscribed to Shade's channel. My wife and I watched the video of his you referred your channel followers to another recent video you posted. The sincerity and love of God in that brother is a true blessing! ✝
Thanks James. I do the same for all your videos. I really love what you do, all those controversial videos in particular recently that many are afraid to touch on, and you tackle those issues head on. I watch them all and always click that like button. God bless you!
@@faithonfireministriesdo you not believe that someone can ascribe to the framework of Calvinism and be Christian?
You mean how right before Paul writes that where he writes “What then? Are we Jews any better off No, not at all. For we have already charged that all, both Jews and Greeks, are under sin, 10 as it is written. He is not talking about a specific people he is referring to everyone that’s why right after saying that he goes directly into the purpose of the law, right before he lays out the gospel.
Also the lenses you say Calvinist put on everyone approaches the scriptures with presuppositions, I hope you don’t think you some how don’t.
Matthew 7:11 Jesus says, if you being evil know how to give good gifts to those who you love how much more will the heavenly Father give good gifts to those who ask? This says that the evil people can do good debunking the whole total depravity theory.
I totally agree about Calvinism a very horrible false doctrine.... 1 John gives us the definition of sin.. it is trespassing and breaking God's law.... And God's law is giving in detail Exodus Leviticus Numbers Deuteronomy... Yes we are all born with a sin nature that we inherited from Adam and Eve but we do not become sinners until we Actually break just one of his commandments and laws then we are sinners.... Esther was probably an 18-year-old and the greatest of reputation.. look at Joseph maybe 17 years old sold into slavery into Egypt he told Potiphar's wife I cannot do this sinful thing and sin against God.... These are two people who is a picture of the Christ that would come who would save their people... So even as kids they teach you your sinful.. that is horrible some of these kids will commit sin just because they're told their already sinners by the church... We know that you cannot pass sin down to the next generation.... Only God knows the very heart and the very actions of everyone and we know he breaks up young kids because many of them are wholesome unpolluted by the world..... We have no right to tell them and teach them their sinners.... Thanks for your Bible study I did enjoy it...
Love your channel. Hope Johnny Mac is watching.
Thanks so much! God bless you!
Are you kidding, he's too busy counting his cophers to waste his time on Bible facts 😂
@@anabanana7599 Yes, I know.
Again.. I Thank You. God Bless You. I was sick about the Limited Atonement they were teaching. I've prayed for knowledge and discernment.
Why does limited atonement bother you? I don't really understand why it bothers anybody. Limited atonement has zero practical impact. Either the atonement is for everyone but only those who believe receive the benefits of it, or the atonement was only for those who believe. The end result is the same. If you switch limited atonement to universal atonement will even one single additional soul be saved? Nope. So why do people care so much about it? I don't believe in limited atonement but either way it seems to be a complete non-issue.
It's like the argument between whether what God does is good because God does it or whether it is because God only does good things. It's a distinction with a difference that doesn't matter.
I believe the Bible clearly teaches that we are not born sinners but rather under sin, so in a sinful environment, and we become sinners through choices we make. After all, there are many scriptures referring to departing from God and being reconciled which insinuates a broken relationship.
Brian I am so glad I found your videos. I have a question for you, but first, I will preface it with it the fact I have been a student of R.C. Sproul, having listened to him daily for years on my commute to and from work. I knew he was Presbyterian I didn’t know he was a follower of Calvin and Luther so much, but as he sprinkled Luther’s life and teachings into his teachings, I soon discovered things I had never heard,being raised Baptist. He did sprinkle his personal views through out his teaching and I found it refreshing when he gave his testimony at college as he gave his heart to Christ in a chapel and the magnificent transformation. I had a problem with predestination and I just didn’t listen to those teachings, I also didn’t agree with his view of the rapture. He, however, had the power of the Holy Spirit leading his teaching to ‘agree to disagree’ on any Christian teaching and doctrine that did not infringe on the ‘actual gospel of Christ’ and to operate in the love of Christ. He was a man of character and the love of Christ. I did have so many issues with John MacAuther’s teaching in strict judgment of others….women…gifts of the Holy Spirit, etc. My question is…do all Calvinist and those who follow Luther believe that the power of the Holy Spirit to use Christians to do miracles has ceased? (to be used to pray for the sick and they be healed, being used to pray and cast our evil spirits, etc.). Thanks for any incite. God bless you
Not all Calvinists are Cessationists but most of them are, and Calvinism is where that teaching originated from. I am so glad you phrased it as you did, that Christians are "used" by God for those miracles. Unlike Cessationists you understand that it is God with the power working through (using) a willing servant. It is not the person who has the power of miracles but only God and nobody can perform miracles on demand as leading voices of Cessationism often challenge people to do. They say, if you have the gift of healing then go into a Children's hospital and heal all those children. They don't realize their blasphemy is that they are not challenging a person, they are challenging God. They might as well say, okay God, if you still heal people then prove it by healing all these people right now so I can witness it and know you are not a liar. Jesus faced the same critics demanding a sign. Nothing has changed.
@@faithonfireministries Thank you so much for this explanation. I really appreciate all of your videos and it helps so much when I am seeing or reading teachers who I find questionable regarding their alignment with the gospel or biblical teaching. Praying for your continued ministry.
I do not understand the respect and reverence in the Christian community for a man who said human infants are worse than vermin.
@@patrickbarnes9874
Especially when Jesus said their Angels do always behold the face of their Father in heaven.
Even the 'great' calvinist John Piper says non calvinists are saved as long as they believe in the gospel of Jesus Christ.
He's got another gospel.
Well, keep in mind that he’s probably using his very own perversion of the Bible, and WHO KNOWS what it says?
BTW, the gift in Eph 2:8-9 is not “the faith to believe”. It’s grace, salvation!
Thanks Bryan ! Can’t talked to Calvinist without them getting frustrated. I just give up and point them your direction. Keep up the good work Brother
I will, thanks brother! God bless you!
Apostle Paul taught about inability to believe:
2Cor 4:3-4 - And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing.
The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
The Calvinist mind is ok with god sending and condemned most people to hell, as long as it isn't them.
Therefore because the Reformed 5-Point Calvinist members refuses "WILL NOT" repent and be baptized they go through life thinking "THEY" are selected for salvation when they are "NOT!"
I see so many of them on their death beds in total fear that perhaps they were not selected at all. Which is the only truth they ever speak of!
True full blow Calvinists are not even saved let alone Christians.
Christians are Christians!
Calvinists are Calvinists!
Mormons are Mormons!
Calvinists believe god created all things, and controls all things, predetermined all things,
and made all things exactly the way they are.... thus god also created evil!
Therefore since Calvinists believe god created evil, they are blaspheming against the holy spirit ... the only unforgivable sin!
Calvinists also believe the only people who will be saved have been predetermined by god.
Since Calvinists believe god predetermined who will be saved ... they have removed free will - the gift of god to humans, which removes Jesus from the equation.
Since god (according to Calvinists) has already determined who will be saved ... (and who will not be saved) ... those who will be saved do not need Christ and those who will not be saved cannot come to Christ, thus Calvinists are not Christians.
Yet if they are still breathing and have a heart beat, they can turn to Christ and God will forgive them.
A fool says in his heart that he is wise. A fool is seen for what he is by those with discernment.
Reader know this, I post these things for you to be warned of the heresy people like this spew out.
Their god is calvi-god and calvi-jesus which are a figment made up out of their deranged imagination.
Jesus loves them and wants to save them they simply need to turn away from man and turn to Jesus and ask for forgiveness and follow Him. Simple.
Truth in love
Why would God send a prophet telling them to repent if it is God himself who decides whether they will repent or not? Calvinism is ridiculous.
They get frustrated because their heretical TULIP is not in the bible 🤣
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Where at in these verse doez it say that they cannot believe, it doesn't. Also, at one point in time you were, just like everyone that has been born. That means at ine point in time, the gospel was hid to you, and the devil had you blinded also.
2 Corinthians 4:3-4
King James Version
3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
Calvinism conflicts John 3:16 (WHOSOEVER)16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Calvinism absolutely does not deny the whosoever in John 3:16. They would teach that who ever believes was previous to that belief made spiritually alive by the spirit of God. And if you look at the context of John 3:16 it does support a work of the holy spirit before belief. V6 says that which is born of flesh is flesh and that which is born of spirit is spirit v7 do not be amazed that I said to you, you must be born again. V8 the wind blows where it wishes and you hear the sound of it but do not know where it comes from or where it is going, so is everyone who is born of the spirit. And later in v19 it says this is the judgment, that the light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather then the light, for their deeds were evil.
What you did with Psalm 14 is assumed that those who seek after God and those who do not had a natural capacity with out Divine intervention to seek God. Then came back into Romans 3 and shoved that eisegesis into Romans 3:11-18 and skipped Romans 3:1-10 that shows Paul's intended Context.
The funny thing, on John Calvin's deathbed, he chose to second guess Calvinism. He was much younger, too. John Mc Arthur, who had better health over all, lived longer, and preached to more people than John Calvin could ever dream, doesn't.
I totally believe in the Calvinistic viewpoint... so I thought this guy is a HOOT!... it's nice to be able to see how the world defeds.. an anti Calvinistic viewpoint..
of course there are many who believe there is no HELL either.. because as they say... God would Not create a place to torture... and damn His creation..
those people pose the same argument.. God will Not destroy people He created for a reason... and according to this.. God does Not create people totally depraved unable to come to Him on their own...
Proverbs 16:4 argues this... God most definitely has chosen some to remain depraved... Never to come to Him for a reason... so that His purposes may be fulfilled..
"The Lord hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil."
Isa. 65:1 I am sought of [them that] asked not [for me]; I am found of [them that] sought me not: I said, Behold me, behold me, unto a nation [that] was not called by my name.
Idk why his church isn't a calvanist church unless there are ashamed of being calvanist or as he said Stealthy calvinism. Seems wrong like his church sermon on Easter. I went to the church on Easter.
He wasn't defending depravity, he was describing the human condition. This has nothing to do with Calvinism, it's Scripture. Isaiah 64:6 But we are all like an unclean thing, And ALL OUR RIGHTOUSNESSES ARE LIKE FILTHY RAGS; We all fade as a leaf, And our iniquities, like the wind, Have taken us away. If you can't see that then you are truly blind. May God have mercy on your soul.
💥🤯 I believe we're dead in sin, for in sin were we conceived - as King David put it - and we're Adamic by nature, sinful, and our hearts evil continually.
Recently I started watching John McCarthy, Steve Larson, R.C. Spoul (and others) and noticed they too taught on total depravity - so I started following these teachers; then I discovered your video (subscribed) and was shown these so-called "teachers" are taking scripture out of context regarding depravity! I thank God for bringing me to you, that you may/have shown me that Christ died for ALL mankind, and that salvation is for any who would call on the name of the Lord! John 3:16 🙌🏽
And I will certainly subscribe to True Church Ministry in support of our Brother! 🙏🏽
Mahalo bro! 😎🤙🏽
You got deceived by the devil, this guy.
If I may, I'd like to point out the use of the word "BECOME" as in "they have BECOME filthy."
They didn't start out filthy (babies).
I just subscribed to true church ministry. God bless you both
PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN!!!🤣 that's exactly how I saw the men leadership of Mormonism after I broke loose from their smoking mirrors!!!🤗
I enjoyed the smoke and mirrors part of the clip .. “and Toto, too!”
Look at the sheer joy for the Lord and the grace of God this man emanates. He indeed sounds like a dead man, when he is preaching. No hope, no joy, no Good news - all that comes out of the mouth of this heretic is condemnation.
Thank you for speaking the truth and not holding back against the Calvinism nonsense
Great videos! I wondered, are you using Bible Hub, is it called? For teaching and studying?