How to Start a Car that's Been Sitting for Years (Wont Start)
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- Опубликовано: 30 ноя 2011
- Start car. How to start a car that's been sitting for years DIY with Scotty Kilmer. How to fix car that wont start. How to get a car running that's been sitting unused for years. Don't attempt to start a car that hasn't run in a while, follow these steps first BEFORE starting your car. See how a 72 corvette can get running again. DIY car repair with Scotty Kilmer, an auto mechanic for the last 50 years.
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Is this a rotary engine?
Scotty Kilmer I need help please call 509 302 7504 I need j
Help with my ride ..
I looked up how to safely fire up a car that sat and YOU HAVE THE EXACT SAME CAR I'M WORRIED ABOUT !!! (Very close anyhow) YOU FKN ROCK Mr. Kilmer!!!
Nice weather is coming and my 77 L-82 has been sleeping since 2004. I was told to put mystery oil in before storage, which doesn't mean I did it. I can't even remember. Last time I was scoping it out to see what kind of restoration I was in for, a squirrel bolted out of my side exhaust!!! I put foam in them to keep critters out, and they said "thank you" and built something inside my pipe up to the head! UGH. I made sure there will be no Rodent cannonballs shooting out when I do get it to fire up safely.
Back to you "O' knowledgeable One" I go to your site now for most jobs before I bang my head against the wall because of some little trick only you, and the dealership mechanics know. I must thank you for keeping the energy, and sharing your expertise with people like me.
Corey Audet - the guy who asked if this Corvette has a rotary engine. lol
My Dad who was a Master Mechanic told me to remove the plugs, add oil into each cyclinder then use a socket wrench to crank the engine.Do a full rotation slowly adding a litte more oil each time. Then let it sit overnight. You can drain the oil and a the other good stuff to get it ready for cranking it over in the morning. The point he told me was that to many people rush it, gotta let the oil do it's job and slowly move down the cyclinder walls etc. and this little bit of patience can add tens of thousands of miles to the the life of the engine because it did not suffer any trauma when it was first started, such as scratched cyclinder walls.
very true
now thats a mechanic i would trust
You're Dad was right!
Thank you for your comment,what kind of oil should I add to the spark plugs,thank you.
Sagnol A any engine oil will work. It will burn as soon. As the engine starts anyway
Step 1: drain all old oil and replace the filter.Also empty old, varnished gas from gas tank. Step 2: Add some Marvel Mystery oil to each cylinder and the oil filter and let it sit overnight. Step 3: replace battery, plugs, wires, and points/distributor if necessary. Make sure starter is working. Step 4: Add more marvel mystery oil as well as a high zinc break in oil to the engine. Step 5: Add a little fresh gas to the carb if it is carb'd. Replace fuel lines if necessary. Step 6: Turn the key and pray. This process worked wonders on many a seized 1960s V8 in my time. Once you get er' running, you can flush the old nasty coolant, transmission fluid, power steering fluid, and brake fluid out, because those will need to be changed too.
Chase out that gross oil with new fresh stuff too, so you can get more of it. Turn the engine over without starting it to make sure it flushes it out good, you don't want ANY oil that's been sitting 10+ years going through your engine if you want it to last
Indeed, i mention high zinc break-in oil as well as Marvel.
What I would do is drain all the oil out, remove the old oil filter, replace the oil drain plug, throw some cheap-o oil filter on there, pour some oil of same weight in, turn the engine over without starting it, then remove & replace the cheapo oil filter with a good one, drain & replace the old oil with good stuff. This isn't necessary on a car that's been sitting a year or two, but it will definitely help if it's been sitting for a decade or more. Conventional oil tends to separate into a really thick sludge and settle to the oil pan, and a really thin oil almost like mineral oil. It can totally ruin your engine even if you have a little bit left in the sump and whatnot.
Of course you would want to replace the filter and remove the pan. In some cases, i deal with cars that had sat for 30 years or more. By that time, the oil has become rusty, crusty gunk and it's nasty stuff. I always tried to rinse off the pan (and thoroughly dry so as not to have any water in the oil!) and replace the filter before i put any oil in. Metal flakes, sludge, and gunk are NOT the things you want in your oil upon first startup, especially on a dry start before the oil really gets flowing.
When you ate first trying to get it to start, dont replace the oil. Because sometimes a car will not start. Depending on the type of condition the car was in. So if you buy oil and a filter and the car wont start, you just wasted money. Running the car for just a few second without oil wont kill it. Make sure you can start it first before replacing the oil.
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yes, you have to drop the tank, but before you do, drain the tank, put 5 gallons of gas in, one gallon of lacquer thinner. Then try to get it running to clean the crud out. The fuel system will be full of it. good luck
When my dad bought my 1996 Ford Mustang in June of 2015 it sat for 8 years in 2007. The year I graduated from high school. Now it rides smoothly down the highway.
shouldn't you change the old oil before you try to start it?
yeah replace it
+Adam Budai it's not gonna hurt for it to run for just a few seconds with old oil or no oil
MegaThunder70 you can't run a car with no oil for any period of time that's insane to do that as that would instantly damage your bearings
memebydesign when you start up your engine it usually runs for a few seconds before oil starts flowing around anyway that's why they say you should let it sit for at least 30 seconds before moving
It doesn't flow very well* There's always oil already in places it needs to be as long as it hasn't been sitting for very long. Try draining every last drop of oil from a car, including emptying the sump, making sure theres none in the cylinders, etc. and see how long and how well it runs.
scotty I love your videos because you simplify things that others complicate and your videos are very thorough too.
This guys video style is so simple, yet full of quality
if you flooded it out, remove the spark plugs, crank the engine over to clear it out, then put the spark plugs back in after you dry them out.
i really enjoy watching your videos, thank you for all of your advices
@Hammer0165 yes, fill it up to the top if you don't empty it out, and refill it again when half empty to dilute the old gas.
@jensen1971x Yes, certainly, but if one doesn't even know it anything works, it's best to try starting first. I changed the oil in it once it started.
@Reddogmr57 Injectors certainly have problems, that's why you NEVER let fuel injected cars sit long. The old vette I fixed had a carb, and I ended up throwing it away and putting a brand new edelbrock on it to make it run good. But, you want a trick, put a gallon of lacquer thinner in the gas tank and try running the engine at 2500 rpms for an hour, that may clean em out.
just came back from there, the mayor of Niagara Falls just married my son who came back from afghanistan in the 101st airborne.
Why did your son marry the Mayor of Niagra ?
+Scotty Kilmer My Honda motorycle was outside (with a cover) 3 years. People told me I should take it to a mechanic to take care. I just did what you said, emptied fuel, added new, and I just got back from a ride. Of course I'm gonna change oil, battery and stuff, but wanted to share because I'm so happy, you saved me some money Scotty, thanks a lot man!
It's amazing to me that your battery was still useable after sitting in the bike for 3 years.
@Nate351 Yep, I put a new edelbrock on it today, and it runs good, BUT the engine really needs a full overhaul, or a new crate 350 put in. Scotty
@baseer1992 changing the oil is good, not changing it causes them to lock up. Old cars run like new if you take care of em and maintain them correctly., Scotty
This guy is the most awesome guy I've ever seen!!
yeah he is good
has a voice kinda like shaggy from scooby doo
His voice is like that because he is always shouting.
yes, if you get it running, sell it fast unless you like spending lots of your time fixing it. Just do what I do in thise video, and change all the fluids if you get it running and then watch for leaking fluids the first week of driving
@thunderking323 Of course, that's why I turned the engine with a wrench first to see if it was locked up. Rust is insidious. Scotty
Those intros and outros are legend.... wait for it dary..... Legendary...
I just love how professional these videos are. Everything is done properly, without forgetting key important measures (which many other channels do).
@92iron yes, good idea to lube em, remove the plugs, do that, then crank with them out first to lube it.
You are very knowledgeable and also you have a great personality for doing these videos. Thanks for the public service.
take the spark plugs out, spray some oil inside and crank a few times to lube the engine inside. Then try starting it after putting the plugs back in
I like this guy. Thanks dude! Short, sweet and to the point. This is a great beginner's check list for starting a vehicle that's been sitting.
great video! I was told that all the rubber components end up needing replacement after years of non use. I will try this first though. thanks Scotty!
@BRLa89 the feed often clogs up, try using an old speedo cable and a drill up into the gas tank after removing the fuel line, that reams emout
Love your videos Scotty! I'm in Scotland and I watch your videos every night! I was a mechanic 25 years ago and I miss it. I wish your videos were around when I was younger, they would have been a great help. What your doing is fantastic especially for the younger guys who need tips when working on cars. Keep up the good work we really appreciate the effort you put in. Cheers!!!
Thanks for all your DIY videos Scotty! I found your videos while debating how to start a car that has been sitting for years. I have a process that I have used many times over the years.
I have ALWAYS removed the plugs and put oil into the cylinders in order to prevent the possibility of ring and cylinder wall damage. You dont find that necessary or beneficial?
I will be busy removing 75 gallons of fuel from an RV tomorrow. I am also considering a mixture of 3 parts high octane, 1 part old rv fuel, have you ever tried this?
THANKS for your time!
Donald Tenn that is a good idea on engines that sit long periods of time. Me, I would not use old RV fuel, they don't make gas like they used to and it actually comes apart into its components as it ages these days. Give it to some old farmer to burn weeds with
I put the AT-205 in the power steer pump, now the power steering works great with no leaks, I put in my floor jack, again no leaks and works fine. That was one of your video that has helped myself and others that I recomend it to. Thanks!
Hi Scotty! I've done some repair work on a 71 Chevy Corvette Stingray that has been sitting for 25 years. After dropping the fuel tank and cleaning it, filter and tube cleaning for float sending unit. Replace fuel lines, fuel pump, carburator, tune up, rebuilt starter, motor starts and runs great. The trans would hesitate when put in gear, I have to tell you that the AT-205 solve the trans problem. Changed the oil and filter, AT-205 again for umbrella seals vale stems frnt & rear ckt seals.
Scotty
You are the man!
I must second that! :)
Haha he drives that car in most his videos
Michael Mahas o
This video was made AIGHT years ago it was sitting way before
loved it.that answered everything.the neon I wrote you about had been sitting for many years,and like I said earlier it was soaked by fire fighters when my cousins house burned down.so for me if I decide to go forward it's change all fluids,get a battery get rid of the old gas,and find a way to get a key made unless we pull the ignition and go from there.thanks again for invaluable insight,d.
@Jaket2000 yes, it can wreck seals if put into engine oil, Fine for putting in the gas tank though. Scotty
He makes it look so easy
I know this is an old video but..... It is my understanding that you should _NOT_ 'dry-fire' an engine that has been sitting idle for so long because you'll have unprotected (all the lubricant has setted) metal against metal. Did you not pre-lube the cylinders?
+fl6stringer Thats only really when a car has been sitting for THAT long. They may be dry for the first few cranks but after that the oil comes back. 2-3 cranks without oil aint gonna make the world of difference unless the pistons are seized then you could break your seals.
TuttyFruttynuts
"THAT long...." I'm sure I expressed that well enough in my post. What point are you trying to make, except to reiterate what I said? Also, especially depending on the condition of cylinder environment, 2-3 cranks _can_ make enough of a difference in the world of microns, if not just to make me cringe.
fl6stringer Thats not what Im trying to say. What I meant is that although you are correct, in this case, this car was not sitting long enough for that to be an issue.
TuttyFruttynuts
Okay. Sorry if my tone seemed abrasive.
+fl6stringer Don't forget that Scotty turned the engine by hand first, so I'm certain that with his experience, how it felt was enough to know it would be fine.
75 Vega I bought for $50 from a guy who had it sitting in a barn for years. Said he never could get it to start, replaced several parts and the universal fuel pump. I towed it home, hand fed gas and it fired. Crawled under the car, turned his new fuel pump around(the right direction). And drove it for 10 years without a problem. Only put $ in it when I wanted to. Amazing what can happen when fuel is feeding the carb, instead of blowing air into the fuel tank! TRUE STORY
0:46 I appreciate that he doesn’t stand there and explain in depth on why it could kill you he just says “don’t do that you’ll die” and moves on
Love his enthusiasm,makes me feel as if i can do anything...after a nap
HI Scotty, I love your shows. Only thing I do differently, is to also check the oil and water levels on the car before starting.
Yea, my carb place is called "new carb in the box". I buy em new in the box cause here in texas they don't pollution test older cars with carbs on anymore, they are too old. So something like a new edelbrock costs a couple hundred bucks if you price around, and runs great.
+Scotty Kilmer im planning on getting a toyota corolla GTS or more well known as the AE 86 (Hachi-Roku) its been sitting on this guys drive way for some time and im pretty interested. I am going to ask my friends dad to come along and check it with me to tell what seems like a fair deal for it. since the specific one i am going to get is like from 84-87, what can be some key issue that i should tell my friends dad to look out for. the car doesnt have ABS but as i live in Califorina do you think that its a big issue seeing as how the weather is usually warm and not really rainy. And if you have any tips to help buy what may be my first car what would they be? thanks for the videos and pls help me
+Luis Madero when that old, things will be worn. But do check the engine and transmission for wear and damage, that's the main money part.
+Scotty Kilmer don't you have to change the engine oil as well? or just the filter?
If something has been sitting for so long, change all fluids and filters.
+Scotty Kilmer hey scotty 2000 ford windstar keeps blowing a 15amp fuse what can be the problem
I know it's an old post, but I'm leaivn this here in case you still need help. If there's a fuse that's constantly blowing you have an electrical problem. what's connected to the fuse? There must be a short somewhere, and finding it can be tricky.
I can't say that it's the best method, but I've seen someone putting a jumper wire in the fuse box and then waiting for smoke to find the short. Doing so WILL burn wires (or possibly more, depending where the short is), but if it's not a sensitive circuit it can be the quickest way to locate the short.
Whats the longest period of time a vehicle can sit without any problems other than battery life?
generally a year and a half then gasoline deteriorates
Scotty Kilmer Thanks comrad, much appreciated.
Scotty Kilmer i have a 1976 impala it hasn't been turned on in 3 years what should i do to start her up and what things can go wrong
Glasshouse 78 Do what he did in this video, exchange the gasoline first then give it a try.
OMG this is the best format of instructional video I've come across! < 3 mins and trouble shoots it and everything! Have and '89 5.0 I might unload soon, but would like to get it to turn over to demonstrate that everything still works.
@speedy75602 fuel injection systems gum all up sitting that long. In this case, I replaced the carb today with a brand new edelbrock and it runs like a top. In fuel injection systems, it's MUCH more complex. Scotty
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TwoHawgs right below his spine. 😂😂
Who would buy a car that nice and then just let it sit?
Me
I hope not for 15 yrs. A vette conv is a total pussy car!
rich people problems
My friend did that with his 64 Mustang
@BRLa89 ah, but on old cars they clog up from crap in the gas tank. so take it apart and clean it completely.
Very informative and straight to the point as usual. Cheers
step one: sale the car, step two: buy a new car.
thank you sir I've been watching a lot of your videos and been brushing up on some of my mechanics very practical good information thank you sir appreciate it
@TaTacoMan yes, drain the tank first like in the video, and out fresh fuel in first and a new battery.
@Funskier67 check the vacuum lines, but as for the rest, too complex for a do it yourselfer. they are mini computer systems after all. Scotty
Hey Scott my dad and I are trying to get his old Jeep Scrambler back up and running. It's been sitting for 20 years but was doing pretty good when it was "retired". I'm glad I found your channel as it's likely to help the whole process go a lot faster. Any other advice you could give us on this project?
@EmotionalOrder well, tommorow I'm uploading a new video, and I use that vette as the intro, doing burn outs. You'll hear that. scotty
you have to drain it all out, which on many cars means taking it off. But japanese cars often have a drain bolt for that. Then add the gas and cleaner
Scotty really knows his stuff, he's a true master technician.
I did have to order it though from auto zone, you could also get it at Amazon
to some extent they can clean stuff out if they aren't too clogged up. but of course mechanically taking them apart and cleaning them with drill bits and scrubbers works better
bad fuel can clog up the fuel injectors and the pump, but it doesn't hurt an engine per say. Empty the gas tank and change the filter, modern gas is not good for 3 years, it decomposes over that time and clogs everything up
@straightedge779 check for external leaks, and pray it's not an internal engine part that broke
@rangerguy17 often the carb will be shot, try a new one.i ended up putting a new edelbrock on this vette.
@luna62ify yea, lousy automatic transmissions and guys often burn the engines out revving em too high, so check engine compression first.
@montysport94 YOu can try, but realize it's a big gamble sitting that long, the fuel system could be all clogged up
@TypicalUser7 Yes, eventually, but you want to get it running first. Cause if it doesn't run, no sense messing with the rest.
Love this!!! thanks for your time and effort you put in all your videos sub and fav!!!
check the wring then, try hot wiring the starter using jumper cables direct from the battery.
You're the greatest! your videos are very helpful, thank you!
@chepiner It will make it fail, and to work on evap systems, you reallly need a dealer level scan computer and a lot of experience, that's just how it is. Otherwise, guessing is expensive and often fixes nothing. Scotty
thanks man, you really have helped me a few times, i just wish i listened to you about the whole sucking the gas out with the hose thing though......
@markkjay tis true, oldies are easier to work on, that's for sure. Scotty
just normal stuff, like the engine oil and filter and check all the other fluids and replace any that look old and dirty, like coolant and brake fluid
No, never noticed that, but it was somewhat cold when I filmed this video, perhaps I was chattering.
You're awesome for putting all these videos on here, and that is a beautiful car
@lllllllRobot yes, empty that gas out. Use one of those electronic ultrasonic noise makers, they really work, my attic if full of them and not mice anymore.
@j12torts get a long cheater bar with a socket, that way you can easily turn the engine if it's not locked up
Scotty Kilmer and Ratchets And Wrenches are two of my fav car DIY channels.
yes, you can do that too, but the owner had already cranked it over a few times trying to start it anyway before I got my hands on it.
the crankshaft pulley has a big bolt in the middle at the bottom front of the engine. Put the socket and cheater bar there and turn
ticking is an internal engine problem most of the time. Try flushing the engine with engine flush, and then change the oil and filter. Old cars can be a pain, and realize if it has a carb, they clog up from non use and old bad gas.
@jlawrodgers no working room on the car, ya gotta take it off. A big job, but eventually it will slide out the side when you unbolt everything in the way.
that's an obvious given. Oil is always checked. But coolant doesn't matter, you can run a naked engine for a minute or more with no coolant at all, won't hurt anything that fast.
@BRLa89 if it has a carburetor, probably needs rebuilding or replacing.
@DaBossk no, it's moving to Florida, and now it has a new edelbrock carb on it, runs better, but really needs a full engine overhaul with all that clacking. Scotty
@urx44 because fungus, believe it or not, grows in it, AND it's very hydroscopic, meaning it readily absorbs water vapor. We do not use oil directly out of the ground, it is highly processed before we use it.
@crammage hey, it started up, so it works. Scotty
sure, you can do that. I ended up blowing the whole fuel line system out with my air compressor cause it was so full of crud. Even had to drill some lines out to get em flowing.
first gear synchro is probably wearing out. If it's really bad, shut if off, put it in first gear, then start it withthe clutch pushed in, I've done that for years with worn out synchros.
@AMAGMr of course, if it will crank but not start.
Thanks Scotty n for your service
I like your 101st Airborne Sticker. My son was a combat medic with the 101st in Afganistan. I was with the 82nd. Thanks for the tips.
we had done a test in the 80's and removed the oil pan on a ford that has been sitting only 24 hours and removed the caps and the bearings where all ready dried up of oil ,,,,,,is why i commented below as such ,,,,,,,nice job
get a new set of points and condenser, remove the old one, put the new one in the same place, and turn the engine so the lobe is on top and th epoints open. Set that gap at 17 thousands of an inch and put a little great on the points where they touch the cam
yes, it would help
yes
My dad has a 1970 Buick Skylark that was sitting for almost 17 years after my dad was broad sided. Poured a little gas into the carb and turned the key and she fired right up. Most reliable car my father has ever owned.
@CoolasIce2 NO, I've been using my panasonic for two years now. scotty