I never thought seeing the adoption train as this happened decades would affect me that much. Yes those were the hard times… but seeing this gets you all the time. Praying for those children who were not lucky enough to find good family to adopt them. And May all those who lost loved ones find them… and May all those who were blessed enough to find good families who nurtured them would share their blessings to others. Thank you for letting us see these.
Pretty please keep the young lady in your prayers,help give closer to her parents . I sure really truly honestly do hope,pray that there will be answers .
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Her mothers name was Elizabeth Hardy--Murphy, but her grandparents were John and Elizabeth Harding? That wouldn't make sense. Her parents last name is probably Hardy, she would be a cousin of mine in that case, not that I'd be able to make her search any easier. But who knows, I have a lot of Hardy family members and the names kind of sound familiar.
I feel like a woman wrote those notes/letters about Micki jo! Does anyone know if there’s an update on the person who wrote them? If they ever found out who that was? I see the accused man got sentenced for her murder but I want more details.
No, the author of all the letters was the murderer himself, Marvin Lee Irvin. He wasn't fully there mentally. They've cut that explanation out of the update, for whatever reason. It used to be included in the update. But you can find info about the whole case online fairly easily. He's listed as a serial killer, since he killed 3 people, at seperate times, Micki Jo West being one of them. It was a kidnap for information-turned murder. Years later, he started writing the notes and leaving them around, in a twisted hope of being caught.
@@jdaxci heck, I might as well take an opportunity to put my enormously strange obsession with Unsolved Mysteries to good use, when the opportunity presents itself. 😅
If you Google the case, you'll find out that Marvin Lee Irvin had impregnated Micky Joe's younger 15 y/o sister then beat her and stalked her and her family from Missouri to California and back.
They lie, cold read, guess. In this case, she probably had seen the boy at some point. To know his clothing, someone probably told her who should not have (cop, family, someone involved in the crime, etc.). No such thing as psychics. The links they drew to her "readings" are tenuous at best. There's a long awful history of psychics preying on families, "helping" law enforcement, and sending them on wild goose chases and in the wrong direction due to their "visions" at the detriment of loved ones and solving the case. For example, in the Amanda Berry case, a psychic told her mother she was dead, she wasn't. She was being held captive by Ariel Castro. For years, she thought her daughter was dead. It probably also affected how much they looked for her. It's terrible what "psychics" do.
@@cortiees yes there are fake psychics. However, I have experience with several real psychics. Two of them are my adult children. I was very skeptical, especially of my daughter, who can be dramatic sometimes. But then I saw her in action in a cemetery, and she was amazing. She was communicating with a recently deceased man who said his wife’s name also. I happened to be standing directly over the grave and my daughter was up the hill, completely out of reading distance and the name would have been upside down to her. I know for a fact she had not been in that part of the cemetery yet and had never been to it before. A real psychic, such as the lady in the episode, do NOT want any information before tuning in to the deceased, as another person’s view point can contaminate the reading. They only want a simple confirmation of the info they are getting that make sense in relation to the person. I’m sorry, you seem to have had bad experiences with fake psychics. If this is not the case, and is just your personal opinion, I would say you are very arrogant to assume you know any thing about something you have no experience with.
easy, they just blurt out as many "clues" as they can think of, then when the person is found (always by someone else) they make some of the clues fit and FORGET about all the other shit they said that didn't fit. they only count the hits and ignore the misses. they always say the person is in or near water, for example. guess what...WATER is everywhere! or the person is hidden underneath something DUH! they never say what the something is...snow? dirt? rocks?leaves? a blanket? a piece of plywood? etc. when the body is found, if it's under ANYTHING they take credit. if not, they just forget they said it. they "see" common letters and numbers. "i see an M or an S or a T...when the person is found THERE WAS A MCDONALDS 2,000 FEET AWAY!!! that MUST have the big M i saw!!!! then when the story is retold, it becomes "yeah, she predicted the person would be found near mcdonalds...AND THEY WERE!!! i could go on, but you get the picture. and NO, there are no REAL PSYCHICS.
they also play the odds. they study criminal profiling (which is mostly common sense anyway) so let's say some young woman is missing..." i see a man, he is wearing work clothes, blue or maybe green or brown, he works with his hands, he's a loner, he has no girlfriends, he has anger issues brought on by his mother's belittling him etc." describes 90% of all rapists. chances are SOME of this has to be true. lets say the guy turns out to be a SURGEON. surgeons DO work with their hands, right??? they wear green scrubs!! right??? but if the guy was a carpenter, a janitor, a mechanic etc., that STILL fits. simple.
I live close to where pretty much the physic lady episode was filmed… that archery range is about 7 minutes from my house and where that guy stepped off the train is route 21 but that’s a weird spot to stop off at cause that’s basically an overpass with no stations around it… maybe they stopped there but not to let anyone off… and where that little kid fell in and drowned that’s in nutley by the high school… every time I go by there I think about this episode and it creeps me out
I never thought seeing the adoption train as this happened decades would affect me that much. Yes those were the hard times… but seeing this gets you all the time. Praying for those children who were not lucky enough to find good family to adopt them. And May all those who lost loved ones find them… and May all those who were blessed enough to find good families who nurtured them would share their blessings to others. Thank you for letting us see these.
Those orphan train stories get me every single time 😢
This might be the best and saddest episode. 😢👍🏽
I absolutely love this show.
Imagine being the last child on the orphan train. Salt in the wounds.
My heart breaks for Francis.
How is that guy released after murdering his girlfriend.
Glad Susan's Dad was spared finding her like that
That train adoption process looks brutal
Yes to be given away by your family
Pretty please keep the young lady in your prayers,help give closer to her parents . I sure really truly honestly do hope,pray that there will be answers .
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Orphan Train was not humane! Terrible thing to do. Another sad idea from our government.
Her mothers name was Elizabeth Hardy--Murphy, but her grandparents were John and Elizabeth Harding? That wouldn't make sense. Her parents last name is probably Hardy, she would be a cousin of mine in that case, not that I'd be able to make her search any easier. But who knows, I have a lot of Hardy family members and the names kind of sound familiar.
Pursue it! Solve the mystery for Francis
My family came to Kansas on the orphan train
Why were there so many orphans in the western states but not central states?
the controllers of the old world killed large percentages of people off.
I feel like a woman wrote those notes/letters about Micki jo! Does anyone know if there’s an update on the person who wrote them? If they ever found out who that was? I see the accused man got sentenced for her murder but I want more details.
No, the author of all the letters was the murderer himself, Marvin Lee Irvin. He wasn't fully there mentally.
They've cut that explanation out of the update, for whatever reason. It used to be included in the update. But you can find info about the whole case online fairly easily. He's listed as a serial killer, since he killed 3 people, at seperate times, Micki Jo West being one of them. It was a kidnap for information-turned murder.
Years later, he started writing the notes and leaving them around, in a twisted hope of being caught.
@@isabellaunsolved8844 thank you for telling me that!
@@jdaxci heck, I might as well take an opportunity to put my enormously strange obsession with Unsolved Mysteries to good use, when the opportunity presents itself.
😅
A psychics clues are better than no clues at all.
Agreed
Another one released WTF
Mickey Joe's death is an example of why people need to mind their own business. You can't help everyone
If you Google the case, you'll find out that Marvin Lee Irvin had impregnated Micky Joe's younger 15 y/o sister then beat her and stalked her and her family from Missouri to California and back.
Seek professional help, I hope none of your love ones in a DV relationship and they escape their abuser with a friend helping them
Twist: the psychic was the one that killed michael
The 90s recreation is kind of funny but it's not really since it's a true story but the retro vibe is funny
This was 1980's.
I always feel like Robert Stack did it.
How do psychics do it?
They lie, cold read, guess. In this case, she probably had seen the boy at some point. To know his clothing, someone probably told her who should not have (cop, family, someone involved in the crime, etc.). No such thing as psychics. The links they drew to her "readings" are tenuous at best. There's a long awful history of psychics preying on families, "helping" law enforcement, and sending them on wild goose chases and in the wrong direction due to their "visions" at the detriment of loved ones and solving the case. For example, in the Amanda Berry case, a psychic told her mother she was dead, she wasn't. She was being held captive by Ariel Castro. For years, she thought her daughter was dead. It probably also affected how much they looked for her. It's terrible what "psychics" do.
@@cortiees yes there are fake psychics. However, I have experience with several real psychics. Two of them are my adult children. I was very skeptical, especially of my daughter, who can be dramatic sometimes. But then I saw her in action in a cemetery, and she was amazing. She was communicating with a recently deceased man who said his wife’s name also. I happened to be standing directly over the grave and my daughter was up the hill, completely out of reading distance and the name would have been upside down to her. I know for a fact she had not been in that part of the cemetery yet and had never been to it before. A real psychic, such as the lady in the episode, do NOT want any information before tuning in to the deceased, as another person’s view point can contaminate the reading. They only want a simple confirmation of the info they are getting that make sense in relation to the person. I’m sorry, you seem to have had bad experiences with fake psychics. If this is not the case, and is just your personal opinion, I would say you are very arrogant to assume you know any thing about something you have no experience with.
easy, they just blurt out as many "clues" as they can think of, then when the person is found (always by someone else) they make some of the clues fit and FORGET about all the other shit they said that didn't fit. they only count the hits and ignore the misses. they always say the person is in or near water, for example. guess what...WATER is everywhere! or the person is hidden underneath something DUH! they never say what the something is...snow? dirt? rocks?leaves? a blanket? a piece of plywood? etc. when the body is found, if it's under ANYTHING they take credit. if not, they just forget they said it. they "see" common letters and numbers. "i see an M or an S or a T...when the person is found THERE WAS A MCDONALDS 2,000 FEET AWAY!!! that MUST have the big M i saw!!!! then when the story is retold, it becomes "yeah, she predicted the person would be found near mcdonalds...AND THEY WERE!!! i could go on, but you get the picture. and NO, there are no REAL PSYCHICS.
they also play the odds. they study criminal profiling (which is mostly common sense anyway) so let's say some young woman is missing..." i see a man, he is wearing work clothes, blue or maybe green or brown, he works with his hands, he's a loner, he has no girlfriends, he has anger issues brought on by his mother's belittling him etc." describes 90% of all rapists. chances are SOME of this has to be true. lets say the guy turns out to be a SURGEON. surgeons DO work with their hands, right??? they wear green scrubs!! right??? but if the guy was a carpenter, a janitor, a mechanic etc., that STILL fits. simple.
@@capacola262743 amazing the gifts they’ve shown the world 5hey have
Dood steps off the train while sleeping into hell.
A.k.a New York. 🗽 🚶♂️ 🚉
I live close to where pretty much the physic lady episode was filmed… that archery range is about 7 minutes from my house and where that guy stepped off the train is route 21 but that’s a weird spot to stop off at cause that’s basically an overpass with no stations around it… maybe they stopped there but not to let anyone off… and where that little kid fell in and drowned that’s in nutley by the high school… every time I go by there I think about this episode and it creeps me out
They were horseback riding. Well duh, where else would you ride? Hey, I'm going horse head riding! Then I'm going motorcycle seat riding!
this was the worst episode
Especially 20:00. Lol
I love this episode