The New Tudor Black Bay Ceramic vs. The Black Bay Dark. (2021)
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Tudor just released another brand new watch in 2021...no it's not made of sterling silver...not 18k gold either...BUT it is made out of ceramic! However, 5 years ago Tudor released this...the Black Bay Dark. Possibly the catalyst to the new ceramic. So! Is the new watch worth picking up? What is a METAS certification anyways? Is it better than being a chronometer? What if you have a 14,999 gauss magnet near you at all times?
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Today, we dive into the new Tudor Black Bay Ceramic, and see how it compares to the Black Bay Dark that preceded it by 5 years.
In 2016, Tudor launched the Black Bay Dark, an all blacked out PVD coated version of their classic Black Bay that marked a ton of firsts for the brand. While not the first Black Bay to be offered in some kind of alternative material or finish (that would be the Black Bay Bronze about a year earlier), it was the first to feature the brand's then-new in-house movement. It was also the first watch from any of the major Swiss houses to really embrace in a mainstream way the idea of that kind of murdered out aesthetic. It was popular, if not slightly divisive, at the time, and has only grown more so since then.
Fast forward to 2021, and we have Tudor's newest release, a watch that, interestingly, was launched after the brand's 2021 novelties had already been announced. But this is the year of Tudor playing with materials, so it only makes sense they would roll out the Black Bay Ceramic. First, let's talk about the movement. Tudor has chosen to step up their game here by introducing a new caliber that has been METAS certified as a Master Chronometer, meaning it must be even more accurate than a traditional Chronometer. They've also ensured the movement is resistant to magnetic fields up to 15'000 gauss. And of course, we have the black ceramic case and bezel (has Tudor done a ceramic bezel before? I don't think so). All in all, for just under $5k, you'd be hard pressed to find a much more technically impressive watch for the money, and it really goes to show Tudor's commitment to value.
The value proposition of this piece is unreal , well done Tudor
Where is Anna I miss her 🥺
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Us by Keshi was playing while I read this comment 😢
The Omega Aqua Terra has the same METAS certification with a more wearable and versatile size/shape and it sells in the low fours with a discount. Best “daily” out there IMO
This is what I really want to pick up. Also want a Cartier Santos extremely bad. I think it’s a beautiful watch but that’s another $2k over the Aqua Terra and a completely different watch.
If you want something with the same METAS cert, more water resistance, and thinner then Omega SMP 300m ... Its about the same price and you can get on a metal bracelet. This Tudor is 14.4mm thick.. it’s going to sit like a brick.
I agree. I have an aqua terra and it's super versatile.
Best comment. Omega aqua terra is a huge value prop. They just don’t have hype like Tudor/Rolex
@@houstonjoseg1 but that's not apples to apples. The SMP 300 in ceramic is about 80% more expensive (list price).
Ever since he was a youngin he's been poppin his collar.
Need more legibility of the numbers on the bezel
Tudor really need to sort that spring bar spacing out. Fitted straps aren't difficult to produce and would certainly be in line with the price.
This tudor looks so great love your channel ;)
Have you ever heard of Omega?
Sounds like to me Tudor is going directly at Omega. The new omega lines are METAS certified. Now if only these two brands can race to thin out their watches.
I feel exactly the same way.
The better technical "deal" is the Omega SMP 300 Diver (which also includes a micro adjustable bracelet), better movement (co-axial escapement), more history/heritage, more prestige, and even a better watch box. So, it still is the standard in this category (and generally is compared to the Rolex Sub). However, Tudor is making great progress.
Tudor has the smoother beat rate at 28800 bph vs the quirky 25200 bph of the Omega to compensate for the coaxial escapement.
@@checksix_TC Meh, that's the case for every modern comparison against a coaxial Omega. That's like saying Asians have more slanted eyes than whites.
@@checksix_TC I have owned a SMP and seen numerous BB58s, etc. One really cannot see the difference in "heartbeat" -- meaning, the Omega sweeps basically about the same. The escapement is definitely a big deal when it comes to watch aficionados. Once again, Tudors are very nice watches ... but just not at the same level as Omega.
Great looking watch - but again, like the silver, I’m disappointed at the lack of a bracelet option.
Not sure how long its been around but i was able to pick mine up recently with the bracelet option. Finishing is very good on the bracelet. Enjoying it.
OMEGA did the METAS Master Chronometer 15000 Guass anti magnetic thing under 5k long before tudor did and I'd say Omega SMP300 is still a better buy.
Yes but they're 7300 euros here now. Omega have somehow thought it made good enough watches to just bump prices up by 2500 dollars or so and do nothing else other than release some limited editions and a mesh bracelet you can buy for your watch.
It's gotten absolutely silly so I get why people don't buy omega.
looks like they want to compete directly with Omega for clients that look for modern design and technical details. hence they will increase prices in 12 months. The yellow gold watch is just indicative of that to prepare clients mentally that Tudor can cost 10k+
Well said Tudor is making big moves. Should Omega be worried? No, their fans are more die hard than most other brands and they have some amazing movements. Tudor wants to gobble up any potential customer that is tired of waiting for Rolex or wants a more affordable non swatch option with METAS. IMO if that’s my budget I’m going Tudor over other divers.
id rather have the steel one on bracelet than a ceramic case which will crack easily if dropped...
Interesting comments and you really like the BB Dark. The new ceramic is an interesting package. The new COSC and METAS certified movement is impressive and finally makes good use of the new display back. Ceramic is a good material for the case because it is light and scratch proof. I like the mirror polished bevel on the case lugs - it really pops and ties to the rest of the BB line. The bits of red on the Dark is nice and the grey text on the ceramic is very understated. The ceramic bezel insert is a step up from the aluminum insert on other BBs and I wish it was more legible. While the dark bezel insert limits the use as a dive watch, this is a weekend warrior.
👍 I put myself on the waiting list for the ceramic on Monday...hope it will come soon...
on Thursday I got it! the first watch my dealer received, probably one of the first delivered in Italy..😊 pictures and fotos are not representing correctly the watch, in reality it is much more attractive...
@@andream7567how has the watch held up over the past year? Still glad you got it or do you feel differently now that some time has passed?
@@philorgneopolotin8762 the watch is the safe ... I can't tell you, sorry!👋😊
Thought the jewelry would have the Ceramic available. Seeing just the Dark was a bit of a disappointment
Absolutely my thougths
Great vid...BUT...needs more "BOOM watchfam!"
Wait…where the F is “Boom watch fam!”?
This Tudor is appealing to me and I've owned the Chrono and BB diver in the past. However the movement is manufactured elsewhere not by Tudor which Chris failed to mention. I rather have Tudor oversee the whole operation of manufacturing at this price. Finally, according to reports one already broke down or had issues that required service.
The only reason Tudor just launches this one later in the year, is because they would have been criticized for not providing the same movement in the way more expensive gold variant.
I got the BB Dark and even managed to get it at a discount at an AD! I do like the new ceramic. I might to trade my BB Dark in.
The Tudor Black Noir is killing it!
They went to Omega for METAS certification....
Holy I just realized. How is the santos more expensive than the now new black bay ceramic? I didn’t even know that Cartier was more expensive than Tudor. Given the better movement of Tudor, I’m confused. Or is Tudor like Rolex where you can’t get one at retail? I’m not familiar with Tudor
You can still get Tudor at retail with a short wait + down payment to order models not readily available in the case. Cartier is readily available for most of their watches and you could even get a small discount at some ADs.
@@ShizAudi Oh well if that’s the case then I don’t really see why the Santos is more expensive given that the Black Bay has the better movement etc. The reason why I’m comparing the two is bc I randomly saw the price of the two watches online and noticed that the Santos is more expensive
In person you’ll like it even more. I thought it would be too juvenile for me but I had to grab it on day 1 and experience it. One thing that hasn’t been publicised about it is that the bezel, probably for the first time in mankind memory, has zero play and aligns perfectly. Honestly buy it just for the movement which is so cool to look at.
Agreed on the bezel being so fixed. I have it and compared to my Omega, BlancpaiN, Pelagos, etc, it’s the sturdiest bezel of the bunch.
The Dark is a much better looking piece than the Ceramic IMO. It has the red accent on the dial, and bezel markings that you can actually read.
amazing watch. Well done Tudor. I like and buy it
The ceramic is pretty cool but < omega dark side of the moon
Can’t compare, the Speedy is a chrono and much more expensive
Christian, to answer the question you poised: OMEGA Seamaster 300M.
Nope, the equivalent black ceramic version of the omega diver 300m is almost double the price of the Tudor ($8650) so Tudor is better value overall just price point wise. Even the non ceramic steel ones are $500 more than the Tudor.
@@ShizAudi the way I understood the question was ceramic bezel, metas and cosc certified, magnetic resistance of 15000 gauss and 300m WR at the 5K price.
@@jimlittle5769 gotcha, yeah the steel omega is still a great value and fair to compare. But apples to apples for the materials and spec would be the ceramic all black omega since both brands make that exact spec. I talked to an AD recently and he told me Tudor’s plan is to compete with Omega and Rolex would then compete with Patek (at least in terms of focus on precious metals and limited production).
@@ShizAudi i think they have a long road to being able to compete with Omega. Omega still competes with Rolex (in regards to quality of watches) and, IMO, Tudor is in the next rung down.
I can't imagine Rolex ever competing with Patek, at least not when it comes to the quality of watches. They don't really make complicated watches nor is their finish up to snuff. They have the name, but thats really it.
Can't wait to see all the folks who consider this a great value a year in on ownership. PVD bezel, crown, case back and buckle. Places that get the most wear will be all worn out also meeting METAS doesn't guarantee good quality the same way COSC doesn't. This is no different save for the ceramic case sides from the prior black release from Tudor.
i got the black bay dark, its nice , hard to love, but i like it and it does have a cool factor and wont be going anywhere. i have the sng and the silver also plus a milguass, any suggestions for my next watch appareciated, id like another rolex but simply cant afford it!
Why are you in a watch boutique if not to show us the new watch?
I wondered how the "Dark" resisted scratching for a long-time wear? Anybody wears it on the regular bases, say every other week or so, for several years? Please share this aspect with us all!
I've had mine for 6 years with very little scratching...still love the look of this piece, tho I'm leaning more to the 39mm Tudor variants as they fit my wrist better. :)
That ceramic...sheeeeesshhh
I’m still just so jealous of your Breguet Tradition... have been looking far and wide for one at a good price, no luck yet.
Damn dude slow down. Also I'm disappointed there's not a side-by-side with the new Tudor. You need a new AD plug, I've seen people already picking up this watch and an AD doesn't have one in stock to film with yet?
Tudor are definatley moving up, but if you're looking for a competitor, how about the Omega Seamaster 300M. Also METAS certified, ceramic, co-Axial excapement, & from a brand with more history?
Bezel is useless because has no lume pip.
great point. all the so called focus on detail on these watches and they completely forget about one of the most important features of a dive watch. insanity.
Me versus everybody 😎⌚️✌️
What’s the name of intro music people
As a dress watch guy myself im disappointed that tudor arent giving the same focus on their dressier lines. I guess thats a good thing, so i can still buy the prince date day bnew.
I would like to see them revamp the glamour and style lines.
Great to see Tudor going for METAS certification. I hope it’ll become the standard for all their watches.
The watch itself doesn’t do it for me. I wish the insert had contrasting numerals to be useful.
Dlc coated black bay looks sooo much better in metal. That ceramic one looks like plastic...
Where is Anna?
Tudor Omega combination is more realistic goal, Rolex is becoming a dream that will never come true.
The Tudor Dark is much better looking than the ceramic. Not a fan of the blacked out bezel.
awesome black!
The gab between lugs/strap is distasteful
The world is not freaking out
Well not me anyway..
Seiko shuffle respektos
Aqua Terra plus it has a bracelet.
What are your Thoughts on the Blackbay 36? :) the One without a Diving bezel 😄
My new grail watch
"the world's freaking out"... is it though? it's another black bay (in the fat case), in ceramic 10 years late, on a strap, black-on-black to really help the nothingness pop. at least the movement is ace, and its appearance merits open caseback, unlike the open backs on precious metal 58s that are only there to save materials lol.
p.s. if you need tips on fixing your collar i have very affordable prices, some say i am the tudor of lifecoaching.
Even the watch world isn't freaking out. This piece is receiving slightly more attention than a new Seiko Prospex diver.
Omega seamster does
You talk about the BB Ceramic/Metas and you overlay with pics of the Dark. Really sloppy editing.
Great intro.
No bracelet
It's also 4 hz...4...hz
Omega Seamaster diver 300m
The black bay would be a definite buy for me if it wasn't for that damn snowflake hand
The hands are a huge sticking point for but i also hate the faux riveted bracelet, the crown and I wish the bezel was scalloped like the old Tudor Submariner.
Most of the world is still freaking out about the disappearance of Anna.
One day people learn the pronunciation of Cartier, I am hopeful. 😆
Again, all the bullshits without showing the real Blackbay Ceramic, how can you show comparison to audience then?
I feel that the black actually looks much better than the ceramic. But I love how much nicer and more special the new movement looks blacked out. The standard movement just doesn’t look good enough for a sapphire caseback, but the blacked out version is awesome.
You're in the business of snubbing Tudor. Now that it's obvious that Rolex is setting up Tudor to truly compete in the 8k and under market, I wonder how many times you will cover Tudor for revenue.
Omega “Dark Side of the Moon” ceramic still beats it but Tudors is a better price.
completely different watches
Its not to compare. 41mm to 44,25 mm, you know?!
@@Peter-ty7wp Of course you can compare. Both fit fine on my wrist.
@Warren Graydon.
Sorry, but this is not the criteria.
Completely different watches in terms of concept
@@Peter-ty7wp That’s fine but I was answering your 41 vs 44 comparison.
Second hand zenith watches are delivering equal or better quality.
Insane movement. Not the a pretty package tho
Haha, Mr. Tudor Aint Shit didn't have anything to say about sub brand this, not good enough to be satisfied that...Going the positive presentation route eh? YEAHH...Ride the wave, but Id respect you more if you never stop with the abrasive criticisms and reminders for this brand specifically.
Seiko Prospect LX titanium spring drive is better value for money
Plus great video
Black on this case style screams cheap to me even though it obviously isn't. That new movement is really cool though.
Better watch value under 5K? How about any Sinn under 5 K?
I have seen it in original the band/strap is so ugly and looks cheap
Jesus, I'm so tired of hearing about Rolex, Omega and Tudor ... Rolex, Omega and Tudor ... Rolex, Omega and Tudor all the time. Puke-inducingly BORING.
The ONLY competitor at that price point is the newest Seamster
I don’t like the look.
The only company delivering more technologie for a lower price than tudor is at this point only Sinn
Looks really cool and love the metas but no lume pip basically makes it useless as a dive watch :/
But who really dives with these watches anymore, snorking, beach wear and pools is about it. But I hear you. If I were to want a true diver and stay in the Tudor family I would get a Pelagous. The Daddy of reasonably priced true divers.
As if anyone who buys this watch would care….and I say that as a person who has put my name down for one.
@@koolpep I agree! And dont get me wrong i do like the watch but its more about the principle. Its like having a pilots chronograph but the the minute subdial doesnt work and say 'well youre not likely to be flying any planes anytime soon'. Perhaps im overexaggerating, and its more tudor im upset with for skipping a rather important detail (im guessing for the benefit of a more stealthy, clean look on the bezel.)
@@robertsullivan4773 Oh yes love the pelagos! I've been thinking for some time to maby switch up from my ordinary black bay, but its gonna cost me 🤷♂️
@@johansoderstrom5424 I also think it's a cost thing. Other ceramic bezel divers leave it off and on my Blancpain Bathyscaphe it's very tiny almost an after thought.
Please stop releasing watches with lugs like these without a FITTED/CURVED END strap... IMO every watch in 2021, especially a sports watch should have a fitted strap. They are 100 times more comfortable and stable on the wrist than a regular strap, and way better looking than those gaps you can see your skin through. Especially on a BLACK watch... There are fantastic aftermarket companies like RubberB who make straps like these, but they can't afford to make a strap for every watch out there. They make a great strap for the Black Bay HOWEVER, this Ceramic version case has different shape (thinner) and their BB strap will probably not fit correctly. The same goes for Blancpain BATHYSCAPHE - incredible watch, but lacking a proper integrated rubber strap. In fact it looks like a watch that had an integrated strap that someone just took out and replaced it with a standard strap that just looks OFF. Give us integrated straps with curved ends! If someone wants to replace it with a regular strap, they can, but the other way around it's impossible most of the time :(