The Great Potential of the Tudor Black Bay Ceramic
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- A Discussion around the Tudor Black Bay Ceramic (2021) now with a METAS Master Chronometer rating, newly introduced ceramic case and slightly updated design. Will it popularise the ceramic sports watch? Is it showing manufacturers that ceramic watches can be made more affordable for the masses? Is its movement technology going to rival its competitors? This watch shows a lot of potential.
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Correction: METAS standards are 0 to +5 (not +2 -2)
I appreciate the METAS direction Tudor is heading. I own the GMT, and never had an issue with accuracy, but the anti magnetism and shock protection are useful additions, particularly in a travelers watch with all the magnetic fields in an airport / plane
@@btyc It's really exciting. I have fallen head over heels with Omega and their movement standards and if Tudor can implement the same (hopefully with slightly slimmer cases in the future) They'll smash it. There was mention in the comments that Tudor is saying all of their movements will fall under this METAS rating in future
METAS sounds to be more strict than COSC. This means you are getting a better (more accurate) movement than Rolex at a more reasonable price point.
@@ID-Guy Question….
I want to Tudors website and they state their movements are COSC certified and no mention of METAS.
From a quick Google search, it appears METAS is a higher standard than COSC. Am I incorrect in this??
Which to me isn't really that big of a deal. I have at least seven watches in my modest collection of Breitlings Omega's Rolex and Tudor that all run within +6. I'll add that other than the Rolex's none are 5/6 K USD. But I agree this is a bold move into an interesting material. I finally added Ceramic to my family with the Bathyscaphe with the Blue dial. I know it doesn't fit in this discussion due to the price point.
The Pelagos is due for a refresh and some attention. This ceramic watch and new movement are very nice. I hope Tudor does something special with the Pelagos.
Fully agree. It is the "modern" and "innovative" piece that Tudor offers and does need more love. Imagine a slightly smaller & thinner case size, new movement, a few adjustments to the dial? Smash hit. Thanks for the comment, brother
@@ID-Guy
And less lines of text.
Pelagos
Master Chronometer
500m-1660 ft
most important make the pelagos wearable smaller - in diameter and thickness... less is more...
Definitely a shot across the bow at Omega. You'd have to think this is their strategy for the upcoming future. How much of the market can we ( tudor) take from them. Considering the price advantages, quite a bit, I'd say. Now lets see this ceramic in the 58 size case!
It's very interesting and like with any business, if your product offers the same for less you're bound to become the most popular. Seriously impressive move to say the least. And thank you as always Michael!
@@ID-Guy The more for less principal is not applicable in the watch industry.
By that logic, the Oris Aquis should be the Death Star against all other brands
@@ID-Guy Really , why is Rolex so successful then as there so many watch companies that offer so much more for so much less? Unfortunately marketing seems to be more important than the actual product.
They'd have to do something with those Fisher Price hands and indices before they'd get my attention. Adding a ceramic dial does take the attention away from those two cheap looking parts.
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The more I look at this new release the more I like it. Tudor is definitely moving in the right direction. I love how on this watch they have out Omegaed Omega. I always enjoy your perspectives IDGuy, great job as always sir.
I absolutely love your take on things! Thank you soo much! ❤️
This looks great. Don’t know why some are very critical on this
It's very slick. I think most of the gut reactions (like mine at first) was that it just looked like another Black, Black Bay. Peeling back those layers though, it might spark quite the "movement" in the next few years
Agreed!
Its a cool watch. 2nd the bracelet. The first time I saw it I hated it but looking at it more its growing on me. The one thing that stops me from getting a ceramic watch is the color. Its either black, white or blue. I would love to see a grey or more steel colored case. Do that and I'm in. And great job IDGuy. Nailed it.
Didn’t give BB in general or this one much of a thought until my AD persuaded me to try it on. Deposit paid on the spot!
Would love a full on video looking at a redesigned pelagos possibly with marine nationale branding. Love your vids, especially the redesigns of things such as the McQueen explorer!
It will be done Laurie! Very keen to get back into the designing chair and looking at more watches under the microscope ;) And thank you so much for taking the time to watch the clips!
Great review. I think it is stunning and a great direction for Tudor 👏
Exciting times ahead Mark! If this is their new strategy, I will definitely climb onboard. Bring on the Ranger next! ;)
According to an interview, the Marine Nationale announcement could still be happening. The French Navy seems to allow their groups of personnel to commission watch brands for military use so long as they are not commercially available or production run. For those who want to have a full public run of a watch in collaboration with MN will have to apply for a license. With a rigorous array of test to attain a license, we can see both Yema and Tudor gaining the MN seal much like how METAS and COSC would be.
So, so exciting! We must chat more about it on Tuesday. If it's a smash hit, it would definitely be a watch I'd be lining up for. Thank you for this information, brother. Pretty amazing that Yema have already sealed the deal with both the MN & The Air Force (officially)
Excellent analysis, as always. The upgrade to the movement and the METAS certification is significant. The use of modern materials is intriguing. But I’m still not over the feeling of “bait and switch” in this release. If they do release a MN Collab soon, and it blows us all away, all will be forgiven 🙌😆 Another great video! 👊
This is outstanding! A Rolex/Omega quality and put it at an affordable price point. The design is appealingly the eye and the grey text and bezel doesn’t take away from reading the time. This is a true tool watch designed for daily wear.
Interesting, right? It has this level of sleekness that definitely speaks to me too... I'd happily rock one and thank you for this Chris! It's a very exciting time thinking what they might do next
Maybe this watch is different, but I tried on a Black 58 a few weeks ago and the quality isn't even close to my Omega SMP300. Lovely watch but on a definite tier below.
@@ssdc2 I’m curious how a ceramic watch case would hold up to really hard daily wear.
That all depends on where they put the quality. I don’t expect a tool watch designed for hard daily wear to have high polished edges or even a clear case back. I want a watch that will work under the most inhospitable conditions and keep going no matter what. They have returned to what a tool watch really is. A tough reliable watch with zero frills.
When I send a watch in for servicing I would put in instructions NOT to polish out the bumps, scratches or scrapes. It’s those things that allows a watch to tell the story of the watch and the wearer. Plus, it builds character.
Sadly, watches have become fashion jewelry pieces instead of being the tool watch they were originally designed to be.
I do wonder as to why watch makers haven’t embraced tritium and drop the traditional lume.
@@chrisstevenson2622 I guess there will be a lot more photos of that coming up.
I’m impressed… a new video 1-day after release. Good opinion and take as always - nice aesthetic, good movement, good price. But now every hodinkyhoo will have black watches and they will be all the rage for a year, so I’m going high polish next 🤪
Great review of a great piece 🥃
Always a pleasure, sir! And I never congratulated you on your Sinn "holidaymaker" the other day! Ah, I'm teetering on the edge of that rabbit hole next...
My initial observation; This tuxedo version makes me think of the hour hand as a bowtie.
Nevertheless, Tudor has stepped up their game. The new movement, case material, and exhibition case back are welcome improvements.
I wish the ceramic Blackbay had a lumed bezel 🤔.
I was thinking the same thing. Black lume would be very slick - but then maybe that's too modern for their more traditional stock ;)
The tuxedo !! Yes sir i want one
Yaught master is the same way sucking on that bit
Sounds terrible.
I am impressed by the watch.
I agree that they have thrown down the gauntlet and other manufacturers should be concerned.
Will be interesting to see how the other guys respond.
If the Black Black Seamaster Pro gets discounted, it'll be next on my list ;) Don't know why, but it's so cool (to me) - Can't wait to see manufacturers stepping up. Just imagine gloss white ceramic cases... It's the future I tell you!
I always enjoy watching your videos. Very well done. I don't have a "high end" watch as of yet, but watching great content such as yours really helps educate me towards making a purchase that I'll be happy with. Thank you!
I was thinking of getting a LHD Pelagos but may hold off to see this watch in person, im also hoping to get a Smiths Commando 👍
Gary, I know it's snobbish, but watch movements can really seal the deal at the end of the day. There's something amazing knowing that you have something so accurate on wrist. Even if this model doesn't get you, holding out for what they have around the corner (I'm assuming a BB58 maybe even something better) grab it! And the Commando's are elusive beasts... Eddie has a surprise that should be arriving by next month I think ;)
@@ID-Guy I've seen his posts on FB, re his ideas, I dis have a Commando in my basket the last time he had them in stock but as I was at work I missed out on paying for it in time !!! The joys of being a front line NHS worker.......saving lives but missing out on watches 🤣🤣
Am in Antwerp and they have a LHD Pelagos in stock in one of the jewellers but they wand €5000 for it £4300 I walked away but I quite like this one
It's awesome in every way. Thanks so much for your incisive and thought provoking review. I want it!!
My BBC is already waiting at the AD. I am looking forward to the MN Tudor. I do hope it is a pelagos blue or blue bezel LHD. All is possible. Tudor are proving that they can rock the market as much as their big brother can. In fact since their pepsi GMT a few years ago one could argue that they have been hitting 6s all the way. Good job another nicely done video with some good insight. People have been critical about the watch, but I suspect it looks much much better in person. Keep up the good work ID guy!
When I think ceramic, an IWC Top Gun chrono always comes to mind. They are releasing more models later this year which will be a clinic in ceramic for all the other brands.
Speaking of which, I wanted to cover the Mojave model they introduced this year! It looked stunning. Just think of the opportunities that could come from this in the future? Ah, I'm excited. Thank you for the comment (and reminding me) brother
@@ID-Guy No problem and just you wait! Just remember the name Lake Tahoe in the next few months.
The Top Gun is the only blacked out watch that I would be comfortable wearing.
Another can’t miss video! Nice job!
Domed crystal gives it elegance, but a flat crystal might improve usability.
Ah, it's a catch 22. I'm super biased though when it comes to crystals ;) Boxed or Domed just hits differently. Thank you for your comment Frantisek
To be honest if this was any other watch company that was not part of Rolex, we would not be talking about this. Christopher Ward did it just as well at a fraction of the price. Unfortunately watches collection is more about bragging about look how much my watch cost than the actual watch itself.
CW is not METAS, it is a COSC SW-220 more or less what Omega had 25 years ago. Not in house.
@@desertsoldier41 and your point is what exactly? You have unfortunately bought into the whole marketing hype.
Yup. If I’m going to buy a nice watch I don’t want a no name brand. Otherwise just wear Casio.
A black black-bay sweet! Would like to see it complimented with a ceramic bracelet. The Silver case is also very interesting. I agree with having less scripts on dials in general.
I'm just thinking of the possibilities of seeing a gloss white ceramic case one day. The opportunities are endless! Thank you for your comment Michael. Very exciting to see what comes from this
@@ID-Guy white would certainly be interesting. I guess you could actually get quite a range of colours using ceramic.
I love this watch, too. Have been close to buying one twice but finally couldnt do it.
This one is so good, so understating, so well made... I still wonder it has not yet the amount of attention I think it deserves.
To me it is the best BB Tudor watch so far - really love it. I assume I will have one within next one or two years.
Good review, too! Like!
I did NOT like the look of this watch at first, now after this video, I'm kind of in love...cheers!
Having the actual watch in my hands, I concur that it’s an interesting evolution and forward-reaching
I’ve been thinking it over. I really do like the watch a lot and I like seeing this movement. The colour scheme is totally on point they nailed that aspect. My only issues are as discussed being the issues with the black bay case AND something doesn’t quite gel having this vintage design in modern material… what do think having discussed the issue with the blacked out longines legend diver? It’s a minor gripe though, overall as a release I think it’s banging
I was hoping for a revamped Pelagos this time around! Seeing loads of comments wanting a 39mm Pelagos though... Do we want all our watches getting smaller?! Keep it 42 for the bigger guys and girls, just thin it down a touch/offer a no date version and I'd be ecstatic!
Sorry for the second post. The more I look at this watch and understand it, the more impressed I am. I really like the polished bevel on the ceramic case - it really pops and provides design consistency within the Black Bay line. At last the new display back makes sense - it was pretty feckless on the gold and silver Black Bay 58s. And it makes sense that the ceramic came out as a Black Bay rather than a Pelagos because Tudor couldn't have released this watch at US$4,725 under the Pelagos umbrella. While I prefer a date complication and bracelet, this is a compelling package with a solid value proposition. Let's see what accessibility is like.
Rolex partnering with MN is awesome.
I love their straps. There is a learning curve adjusting and putting it on. I still make sure I'm sitting when I do, so if it falls, it goes on the lap. But they are so comfortable. It's a perfect match for my Flighty. I saw an all black MN strap on The Mad Watch Collector's Channel. I reached out to Mo, the MN owner, and he sent me one. I have yet to use it, because it's so hard taking off a masterpiece glidelock bracelet. Hard as in, best bracelet on the market.
Rado has been tinkering with ceramic for a long time.
What a wonderful spec Black Bay Ceramic is!😲✨
i agree, the only Tudor i really do like, even setting assist the David Beckham brand thing
I am sure I’m one of many that would love to see the BB58 treatment on the Pelagos, modern tool watch credentials on a sleek daily wear. That would be a piece!
Absolutely. And it's bound to happen. The Modern Snowflake aesthetic has way too much potential to be ignored ;)
It would be interesting if there was an episode about the watches of WW2 and the Marine Nationale
Next week, brother. This release couldn't have happened sooner... "Watches of the French Armed Forces" is currently on my desk being edited ;)
@@ID-Guy YEEEESSSS
Love it and great content you shared..Ty !
No good as a diver though if you can’t read the bezel at 30 ms depth in U.K. waters?
I guess they wanted to keep with the "blackout" aesthetic (which does compromise the bezel for sure) - It's often a common trait of design overtaking function sadly
The basic requirement was a lume pip at least !
Love the ceramic case. It seems a natural progression for tudor to follow up the 925 (which i truly love) with another exotic case material. Now how about just completely going off the rails and letting people request a little customization..maybe a green bezel??! Crazy talk i know, but its fun to imagine
I like it! Quite unique, I think
Pretty slick looking machine and thank you as always for your comment Neel
What does the recent releases (chrono, silver, ceramic) say about Tudor inside the Rolex group ? What could result is having a sister brand with a lesser overall less brand perception appearing more innovative and audacious ? Will Rolex feel the need to catch up at some point, is Tudor used as a testing ground for Rolex, or it is a way for Rolex to compete with other brands like Omega or Zenith on these new grounds ?
Black bay 'Cassius' as in (Cassius Marcellus *Clay*Jr.)
Great content as always IDGuy ✓
Like it, Perry! Gotta think of a catchphrase that works with "butterfly - bee" analogy next ;)
Bought an omega seamaster 57 recently and compared to this I am so glad I did. Looks half finished.ok we have the entree, where’s the main course? Steel Bracelet? Pip mark? Like having a shirt with no buttons imho
Omega is glorified hublot (last 10 years)
Awesome video. I didn’t catch the price? The version you proposed which removed the text on dial, placed the co-brand logo bottom right, and added a black nato strap looked literally perfect. That’s why you’re the IDGuy!
I think Yema beat Tudor to it, making the blue Marine Nationale diver. As for the black ceramic BB, spec-wise it is amazing. Bit "tacticool", yet somehow manages to not look like a toy.
Yema is doing some serious business! Now partnered with the MN & the Air Force... Also very interested in the stealthiness of this model too. Here's hoping it arrives in the BB58 format soon (they could really be quite adventurous with this)
Saw the watch in the flesh at my AD. Looks nicer in real life than photos or videos. Being OCD, love to have a ceramic watch but nay to the DLC crown and bezel... maybe kept the bezel, crown in steel and make the bezel numbers in "steel" colour as well?
ceramic finishing is very hard to do and most ended up becoming dull. The scratch resistance(and fragility) is the very problem itself when it comes to using ceramic in a watch. The prototype watches tends to be WAY WAY better than what the product is since some companies brought watches that they didn't promise to make because they dont have the technology
Great video as always. I wonder what’s next up Tudor’s sleeve.
Omega must be very shocked😂
I know I would be! But hey, they know how to adapt pretty well. Most would always buy an Omega over a Tudor because of the brand anyway - we're snobs like that ;)
Excellent video. Colour me excited
please do not forget the Tudot Fastrider in ceramic. According to Tudor, the bezel on the Pelagos was developped as an outcome of the Fastrider
Do you think this is a short term investment piece? I heard that this will be hard to get this year.
i got mine, great watch l, also found one for 6k.
ID Guy, this was a great show as usual, however your soothing voice and presentation could have been focused on anything, such as "what hot sauce is best" and I would have listened intently and delivered the revered thumbs up willingly. Keep up the great work.
I really like the experimentation with new material by Tudor. Maybe we could expect something from Rolex in 2-5 years if the trend continues and proves successful. I like the look of the watch, even though I am not a huge fan of ceramic unless in a very “heavy hitter” as the AP openworked, as it may look a bit cheap, perhaps similar to a black plastic fashion watch. I wish it came in the 58, as I a way bigger fan of the 58 than the normal BB. To summarize my opinion: wouldn’t buy it, but am a fan of the experimentation and it doesn’t look too shabby.
Wouldn't a bracelet take the watch to another category of pricing? I tend to replace bracelets with straps anyway 😊
This one, the bronze and the 925. That would be my collection, meanwhile second hand it is a $10k gift to oneself. I think that is very reasonable
its brill i love it... cheers
I much prefer it saying Black Bay and having only 2 lines of text, as opposed to 3 lines of normal text - which is a bit of an eyesore, especially if it isn't typeset in the 'smiley face' format. And I'd be happy even with only "Black Bay", and no 2nd line.
What colour are the hands? They seem to look different depending on the photo.
I for one was excited by this release. Until I saw 14.4mm!
Why the long text above 6, it's not needed at all. The bezel material is different than the case, why 41mm, I rather go for the IWC Ceratanium Chrono, it cost more because it's more of a watch and it's also a tool watch just like this one. Maybe, just maybe things might change if I see it on the metal. I just had way to many watches test get boring within the first few months of ownership lately.
I may be in the minority but I really like this watch!!!
Did Tudor discontinue the North Flag? It's not appearing on the Canadian site. Is it the same other international sites?
Love it! I'm just afraid of ceramic watches. Bang them and they will break. IWC solved this with Ceratanium, but this is not 'real' ceramic, but at least it won't break.
We’re all talking about tweaks and upgrades to the Pelagos or the black bay etc but in reality if they bring out a Tudor submariner we all now what we will try and get it’s not like the demand isn’t there
Make this in a BB58 version and I'm sold.
Looks like a Steinhart Ocean ONE Phantom. Oh the freaking IRONY. Yikes.
We only knew it was a matter of time before things would go full circle. Ouroboros and all that ;)
My dad was a senior scientist on the SR71 (Nuff said!).🥷🏻
Tudor wants to get notice, and be it self, and avoid be compared to his big brother.
Got allocated one yesterday, apparently local dealers are only allowed one per AD..
So this is unobtanium then for the vast bulk of people. 8 million people in my city, 10 ADs give or take.....yea, this watch is not going to be buyable is my hunch for a non ultra vip.
Wow, that is pretty selective to say the least... I wonder how many of these they'll be making over time? Thank you for this!
@@yellowwducky possibly.. could also just be a local thing.
3:59 where did you get the +2/-2 from? This is what it says on Tudor’s Facebook page: “The TUDOR Black Bay Ceramic is able to function within a 5-second range of variation each day (0 +5), that is to say 5 seconds less than the Swiss Official Chronometer Testing Institute (COSC) (-4 +6) carried out on a single movement.”
@@IDKline thanks 👍🏻✅
Re: the MN possibility, at the end of the promo video it did say “until next time” 🤔😉
This one is not for me... I am still waiting (and VERY excited) for the 39mm regular BB58. I really thought (when it was mentioned to me) that they would be releasing a Coke GMT - a good guess, but I guess not. I like the Pepsi of all them, but, am holding out for a Rolex Pepsi on Oyster.
Really a stunning watch--and this coming from someone who has never been a Tudor fan. I can even forgive the now-established snowflake handset! Thanks for the great intro to this watch!
Nice watch. Less keen on the gap between where the strap connects to the case at the top & bottom. Maybe too much hand showing underneath?
this watch is going to be the first real 'Jab' at the whole Side of the Moon series, and the Metas Master Chronometer cert, by Omegas nemesis in Geneva!
@@IDKline Indeed, you're probably right. I didn't mean it in that way. I think it's being aimed at Rolex/Tudor fans that also like that look. Rolex itself will probably never make any production watch like that. but there are fans that would love to see it so this is a neat solution. Without a radical change to the Marquee line.
@@IDKline iam new to the watch world and I just can't see why people are so enamored with Tudor these days. I understand why back in the day because they were almost literally a Rolex with an ETA. So you really could feel what it was like to have a Rolex on your wrist, but at a way cheaper price
@@IDKline Couldn't agree more! It really is it's own little universe. fascinating.
@@styx4947 Same (new to watches) and also don't get the Tudor fanfare, or dare I say HYPE. They are nice, but nothing amazing. I think Longines releases much nicer watches, and would put Tudor closer to their level than Omega, Rolex or GS.
Hasn't Rado also been using ceramics for the longest time?
They definitely have... Very good point. But it's like with any watch in the mainstream, it gets the limelight. Crazy, come to think of it, I remember seeing ceramic Rados in the 2000's
I had to do a double take, I know it's in a different league, but I thought this looked A LOT like my Glycine Combat sub stealth.. Of course I'd rather the Tudor. But the glycine is growing on me
Really interesting piece....just do not like the bold markers and hands. If those where more sleek I would buy one
Do you know how long the waiting list is by now? Not willing to pay 1€ more!
I like it, I want one, on a bracelet. :)
wow! Quite amazing! Amazing that they made a diver watch with a bezel you can't really read due to color choice, depth and thickness of those indices. Not only that, but no pip. Thank God it comes with an exhibition case some of us don't care about it, as the back case sits... (surprise, surprise!) on the wrist!
What a joker =)
Thumbs up for the video!
Tudor really needed to put this on rubber
Not much of a divers watch without lume on the triangle 🔺 so why METAS certify it?
Looks like DLW modded Seiko
I don't find anything over €3500 for a Tudor diver something to be excited about. Weren't they meant to be much more affordable? Also, I find blacked out watches to be cheap looking.
Wilsdorf and co. don’t see Omega on Rolex’s level. They’ll use Tudor to compete with them.
Crazy to think, right? I'm guessing more than anything they're maybe looking at price brackets between the two brands. Looks like the MOD Seamaster reissue can't come soon enough ;)
yet Omega spent the last decade pushing prices into Rolex range. Remember the sub-4k$ Speedmaster ? I love this sunburst black dial...and also love the BB58, even though I'd take one with mercedes hand (and get a blue Sub with full square index + snowflake hand).
Question is, why is ceramic becoming popular *now* ? Rado and Chanel have been using it for years...
@@MasterSam85 I think Omega's price increases are a mistake. Take the 41mm Constellation. They should be offering a steel bracelet and not just a rubber/leather strap. Kind of a half hearted effort. I would expect more at their higher price levels.
And apart from the marketing what do Rolex do better than Omega, certainly not the watch itself which are far inferior? Superlative chronometer lol, a self certification holds no merit. I've an Oris that cost £1k that holds 1 second a day.
I hear your points and accept them all but I just don't like it. I just can't get on board with any of these blacked out peices, to me they are a bit batman/the dark night costume-esque. But look they're not making it for the likes of me, there'll be plenty of people who'll buy it and love it.
Oh for sure, it can teeter on the edge of being way too "stealth" in appearance. It's the Blackest Black Bay of all ;) I'm more interested to see what comes from this and how brands adapt. If Omega decides to go with a gloss white ceramic case Seamaster... wow... the possibilities....
Question, how come Rolex is not getting into this space of utilizing precious metals and materials on their collection? Yes, classics are respected but with no twist? I'm talking about explorers here.
The question is: Who wants full ceramic watches?! Nice movement though.
Now make this in blue, and Tudor can take my money
Whats next? A black bay in cheddar and bacon? Lazy and not really creative for a brand advertised as 'born to dare'.
I'm afraid the "Born to Dare" caption whittled away soon after it first aired. "Playing it Safe" is more like it ;)
Affordable prices ??? 🤔
It’s not ‘a full blacked out model’??!!
It would look better if it was.
Especially if it had a decent strap or bracelet.
I’m not an Omega fan, but the Omega looks way better.
Personally I would not buy a coated or plated watch.
This new ceramic watch is a larger chunkier Black Bay variant, not the smaller Black Bay 58 🤷♂️ and this is not a proper dive watch anymore, due to the lack of a lumed dive bezel pip.
@@MrCheesetastic still, it should be true to its tool watch origin and that includes a bezel lume pip. I don’t think it would of spoiled the black out aesthetic that much as the dial indices have normal (not grayed out like in that latest Omega diver) lume.
isn't the Marine Narionale, a military organization? how can you co-brand with an armed organ of the State?
I asked Tudor via Instagram if they were going to put METAS certified movements in their other models, their response was that ALL of their manufacture movements would qualify for the METAS certification if they chose to test them. I am not a fan of ceramic cases in sport watches, would not feel confident in its impact resistance.
Very interesting! Thank you for this. So they're really going into this guns blazing now...Wow.
Just like every other watch company could say they could meet Rolex's self proclaimed superlative chronometer, easy to say, far harder to prove.