Four speed swap 72' Nova
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- Опубликовано: 27 янв 2023
- In this episode we convert our 2 speed powerglide automatic 72' nova to a four speed bang shifting muscle machine. As always with this car we are building on a budget so our four speed swap is assembled using mostly free, borrowed, and used parts.
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Muncie's will blow up. If you find a Super T10, that's the way to go.
Those shifter prices are no joke! Thought about replacing my 4spd shifter with a new tight one, and that isn’t gonna happen! Hurst is way to proud about there product! Lol
Yes they are. They are owned by Holley now and I have heard the quality isn’t what it used to be. Someone told me you are better off rebuilding the one you have.
built my nova with my dad but i dont have it on video. your really lucky to have that. great car cant wait to see more.
AWESOME job, good times working with your Dad. You never forgott
Great memories of me and Dad
I idolized him as well growing up!
Great manual conversion brother, great job! On a side note, I have a bunch of 1970 Nova factory parts if needed. I doing a 1970 Nova street car and would be happy to send my unused parts your way. Keep up the good work and video! Best Regards, Ray's Garage.
Thanks ray glad you enjoyed the video! Do you have a way I can contact you. I would definitely be interested in your unused parts.
I had something similar with your shifter you're talking about! If you flip the lever on the reverse on the side of the transmission so it's pointing the opposite way it would/should work with that shifter you were talking about (that comes back to go into reverse). Cool swap man! I went through something similar putting a 4 speed in my '70 Monte Carlo. Thanks for sharing!
And yeah, the Hurst 4 speed stuff is stupid expensive, it took me a while to track one down but I bought a Hurst Comp 4 speed for $75 on marketplace, it's the next swap I'll be doing to switch out the ITM that came on my trans. I think it's the cheapest one I've seen in the last 3 years anyways lol
just want to say great video
I take it back the first start was my favorite.
I agree Eddie! The first start was one of my favorite parts too. Nothing better then a late night in the garage with your best friend and that project you’ve been breaking your knuckles on roars to life for the first time. Makes it all worth it!
Farts are my favorite part. Hey, its a real garage where work gets done
Hahaha anyone who tells you that they don’t openly rip farts in the garage is a liar lol
I have a 68 Mustang which I've owned for over 10 years, when I work on it I always start with a fart just to get that out of the way.
Haha, I know that “free” feeling. When I was a poor 20 year old trying to do the four speed changeover on my Chevelle I ended up with both a Saginaw four speed and an early T10 for something like $50. I lucked out and the T10 turned out to be a fairly valuable trans. I ended up rebuilding it and sold it for a good chunk of change. Was able to snag a Super T10 with the proceeds.
Nice! I definitely want to upgrade in the future but am not sure what I want yet. Whatever it is it will most likely be used as I enjoy keeping the budget minded theme with this car.
My new favorite channel you guys! Just come across it! I’m a nova guy with a fresh SB 4sp death proof looking nova as my daily. Keep it up! I’m subscribed and all that😎✌️
thanks Vince! Glad you found our channel and enjoy the content! We got much more up our sleeves so stay tuned!
Absolutely!
nice car and your ambition.
I like it you got everybody involved in it and you your video went very smooth not a whole lot of talk you're talking was good information and I laugh about the hole in the floor yeah you start out it's going to be perfect and he's got to go bigger and bigger and bigger what we used to do is make the whole plenty big and then get a nice piece of sheet metal that you can measure and cut and do the right hole and you screw it right over the top and it looks Factory because some are that way from the factory they just have a plate for different shifters
One of the best "cheap" novas I've seen. Looks killer on camera!
Thanks man! Glad you like it! Despite it being cheap it is actually one of the most fun vehicles I have owned/built. It’s just a riot and people dig it.
Cool taking out the grandma automatic and putting a really transmission in.I like it
Thanks Wayne! 3 pedals is definitely the way to go
Some of the factory Saginaws in the late 70s had reverse left and down.
Going through a 4-speed conversion on my '72 Nova right now - bought a Saginaw and then decided to go with a M20 Muncie after I found one for cheap.
Have the exact issue with the Hurst Competition plus shifter, reverse did not want to go forwards. Solution was to flip the transmission side linkage bracket down instead of up, and now it will shift into reverse by moving shifter across-left then backwards. Not ideal but that's how I've made it work.
I had considered doing that actually but I didnt like the idea of bang shifting the car from first to second and potentially ram rodding it into reverse instead of second while slamming it backwards.
@@hatchsrecreationalengineer1997 that is a concern of mine - we’ll see how that goes!
Hey those shifters are from either I ford or dodge some of the older cars had that setup where reverse was over and down ,love the content I have that 73 SS factory 4 speed hatchback and a 71 Acadian that I’m going 200r4 24kstall 355 or LC9 ls swap T5
If you are considering a manual a T-5 is a good choice too. You can build them up to be "pretty" tough and they are budget friendly. An AL flywheel helps a lot as does a hydraulic TO bearing. Great build, awesome cars... you do great work. Subscribed.
I agree that the T-5 can also be a good choice (can also probably take a little more abuse then my Saginaw). However the Saginaw was free so it was for me lol. Thanks for watching the videos and subscribing. I really appreciate it!
“F^ck the neighbors”
Hell yeah brother lol
I rack of my 438big block 68 Elcamino at 10-11pm on Saturday night and think the same thing haha
Thanks for your reply, you can find all my contact info at the end of most of my videos. What mufflers are you running on this car, they look slick with the turndowns!
This car is running some relatively cheap circle track mufflers. It is stupid loud and now with being able to seriously rev this thing with the four speed it is ridiculous.
www.summitracing.com/parts/BEY-4650
@@hatchsrecreationalengineer1997 Thanks man!
i really want one of these cars. Anyone in southern Missouri selling?
I love mopars but I feel that car needs a mail box type scoop
Those are ugly
I'm not a ford guy but pretty sure 60s ford reverse was left and down and they don't sell the super shifter with reverse lockout anymore you could sell that for decent money on ebay I bought one last year for 260 plus shipping
Mike guy comment is right just have to flip it around on the transmission. Unless you would like to shift at like some old Fords. Great job. And it was very enjoyable to see somebody's face light up the way you did when it came together. By the way I ran a 3 speed Saginaw for very long time 9327 with a floor shifter. Is it better than a 4-speed from my setup in a quarter mile. You know these 5-speed or if you will for speed with overdrive manual transmissions and Dodge trucks back in the 80s. The clutch housing or as we called the hog head for the Chrysler will not bolt up to you or small block Chevy. But there's plenty of Chevy clutch houses out there that will do the job. We all know it isn't the name tag on the car. It's more so the name on the transmission of the manufacturer. But now those those $300 Dodge trucks don't exist.
Nice work. I’m doing the same with my 63. Dumb question. No slave cylinder? Just Z bar?
Thanks Jeff. Yes just z bar. I’m an not running a hydraulic throw out bearing so no slave cylinder is required. This is how these cars would have been setup from the factory. You can upgrade them to a hydraulic style though.
@@hatchsrecreationalengineer1997 thx much
I bought a saginaw last year to use in a car.. same deal you had to go left, and back to get it into reverse. It turns out the lever on the transmission was upside down.
I thought that that might have been the case with mine however even when I disconnected the linkage from the shifter it still would not go over and back. So even flipping that lever would not have worked in my particular case.
@Hatch's Recreational Engineering gotcha! Some did have that odd reverse pattern. I've never personally seen it in a car. I'm swapping my powerglide for a muncie. Hopefully the slip yolk is the same. I want to say it is.
1950"s top loader was r low left but that was truck top loader
How's the Saginaw been holding up? I just picked one up too I might throw in that gold crew cab I showed you or the other 2 door... I know they're fragile though
I have been daily driving my 72’ with that transmission and it has been totally fine. I do occasionally beat on it to do burnouts and power shifts but it has been totally good so far. Keep in mind though that that small block isn’t making a lot of power and I’m running a relatively small wheel/tire (255/60/15x8 street tires). Only part that sucked about the Saginaw was trying to acquire shift linkage for it.
You won’t bust that trans.They are pretty stout.
Is that have a 168 tooth flywheel if so what starter did you use ? I have 1972 nova 350 and just did a Saginaw swap from a th350 I have a 168 tooth flywheel and starter will not work 😾 . Love your channel it’s the best nova one out there 👍👍🙌
168 starter has mounting bolts diagonally opposed while 153 are straight across.
what peddle kit did you use I have a 73 nova ?
I bought the peddle kit from speedway
There’s no video of it driving after?
That rear seems like 2.56's or something way too high for it. Chevy motor with 4 speed needs 3.73 minimum
shifter down to far right or top left pal.
What’s the process to convert it from a manual to automatic
4 speed ,bellhousing, clutch, pressure plate, flywheel, and pilot bearing (in back of crankshaft) all need to be removed. You will need a flexplate, different starter, trans lines to radiator, vacuum modulator line. Next big thing will be linkage. You will need to remove all Z bar stuff, change pedals, and depending on where you want your shifter to be will determine that stuff. Column shift will require and auto trans steering column, whereas a floor shifter will allow you to keep your existing steering column. Let me know if you have any other questions
We're u get the pedal kit
This is the kit I used. Super nice easy bolt in. It did not come with pedal covers you have to buy them separately.
www.ss396.com/nova/FMCK-69S.html?gclid=CjwKCAiA5L2tBhBTEiwAdSxJXxRObrgv6f4Q7Dk0iWn1GNKYrDW_KPT5oRsz18SWGZUE5mLxtoZMORoCxfsQAvD_BwE
wrong intake you sure you dont mean 307 67 last year of327 wich 265 ,283 327 oil filler in intake
No it is 100% a 327. The 327 was produced through 1969
62 to 67 was oringinal small jurnal 68 and 69 big jurnal wich is really a 350
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The Grump was good but not the best
I've got a 5 speed Nissan truck if anybody wants to trade for an automatic truck a Nissan like 119 96 or 1997
Cause SS396 Ground Up SUCKS I hate having to order from them !!!!!!!
I hear ya! Not only are you price gouged but you pay through the nose in shipping too!!
I have a 69ss chevelle with a 565 merlin an 373 gear with powerglide an its a Monster but thinking of going 4 speed M 21 crusher just for the more fun. The more gears the more fun hahahahahaha
For sure! There is nothing better then slamming gears in an old muscle car. Even if it’s not faster is cooler haha