Don't you love when these commentators love the hit "good, physical" and then when an official correspondent says it's targeting they automatically can't stomach to watch it all of a sudden
It wouldn't look good on the sport overall if the commentators were to talk about how violent and dangerous it can be. It kills the atmosphere the TV companies are trying to create. But it's harder to avoid that topic when the refs stop the game and start issuing penalties.
@@RoyalMelaI’ve done helmet to helmet tackles on people from 6-8 little league to varsity HS. Never had a concussion or a broken neck. It’s not as “unsafe” as most think. Now if you’re both running full speed before the collision then yes, it’s unsafe but 9/10 that’s not the scenario. We were taught, they give you a helmet for a reason - don’t be scared to use it. At least throughout my time, when people catch word that you purposely use your helmet, they don’t wanna be hit by you.
@@SandyRavage410it’s really unsafe. Really bad for the spine and brain to lead with your head and target the impact on your head. Football is really dangerous as is of course but there are styles that make it easier on the body to play longer. A lot of people have gotten career ending injury’s even at young ages from tackling this way.
@@SandyRavage410 Yes, it is just as unsafe as people think. YOU may not have gotten injured, but people that are way more physically built, athletic and know what they're doing have seriously hurt themselves by tackling like that. Look what happened to Ryan Shazier. Broke his back, was in a wheelchair for over a year, and forced into early retirement. He STILL hasn't been able to work out regularly. And should I bring up CTE data? Lmfao. Just because you aren't immediately hurt doesn't mean everything is fine.
They really need to remake the targeting rules because it is way to broad and consequences are way to harsh. What's skalski supposed to do on that play? Not hit him?
Especially since this was not his first disqualification for this EXACT SAME THING. He absolutely should know better. If he had kept his head up, he could have hit Fields just as hard, and would have been in the rest of the game to help his teamates. He knew what he was doing-- he saw a shot to knock out their star, and he took it. Came back to bite him.
@@Jackson-bm9mo Please be more specific, I can't understand your implication with the limited data you're providing. Was it unique only because it happened at the time of the C-19 or did other factors play a part?
I disagree with a number of these. Yes, I absolutely agree that more needs to be done to address head issues in football, but on a few of them, the defender goes in for a perfect tackle, then the receiver's level changes, which means that perfect tackle now hits the receiver's head. You can't make defenders wait for the receiver to make the catch, make a football move & start advancing the ball before making contact.
Then teach defenders not to hit players in the head or neck with a shoulder or helmet. Most of the ones shown were back of the head shots. Just not needed.
@dgrblue4162 They do exactly that idiot. No coach teaches a player to lead with there. Tell me you don't know anything about football without telling me you don't know anything about football
Unless the player made the catch over his shoulder (and is therefore facing the end zone anyway), the offensive player is likely going to pull their head down as they're turning and tucking the ball to run...wait those two seconds or so and drop him (or make an appropriate low tackle).
The first one in my opinion shouldn't be targeting, if the quarterback actually knew how to spin juke, then he wouldn't have gotten hit like that, hell even if he slid he wouldn't have gotten hit like that
Maybe not lowering your helmet like he did, and there isn’t targeting. The rule also is in place to keep defenders safe (think of Ryan Shazier, same type of tackle that nearly paralyzed him)
The first one was targeting to protect the defender. The first thing you are taught as a kid when it comes to tackling is keep your head up. You see his neck compress in the video. If his head is up it doesn't matter what the QB does. He is lucky to be walking.
This targeting rule is unfair. It seems only tacklers can get targeting. I have seen ball carriers lower their heads and hit some and they are never called
RB'S do this shit on every play. Half of the ejections were because the wr lowered their head. This us why I can't watch too much football anymore. Trying to prevent injuries in a violent game. Take away the equipment if you want to "eliminate " head injuries. Even that won't work..
@Henry Bartholomew Dinglenut i played ball through college, its a violent game. One of the takeaways from my pops who is still willing me. The only game you can try and physically hurt someone within the rules with no consequences. I love football and the violence of it and I get the danger aspect but if you don't want that, don't play. No o e thinks 250 running a 4.5 running into a 230 pound guy running a 4.3 is a good idea but the NFL makes billions promoting it. Just sayin.
When I played football people like Ray Lewis and Ronnie Lott inspired me. I laid a lot on the field and sacrificed my body and health for wins (I wasn't even getting paid millions, but I got a lot of respect and props). It inspired my team to do the same for me and together we made it to a championship. This is the point, violence is absolutely part of the game.
It's a simple rule. 1.Don't go for the head 2. Keep your head up when you hit. If defenders drop their heads they not only risk concussion but a broken neck. Head up, legs bent, wrap up, and lift. Key thing is "Head up".
No it's not because they doesn't know what it's is. The rules say targeting is when a player target other players to hurt him so that players can get out of the game. I played college football for the UM
@@terminator23destroyer15 So lowering your head and making no attempt to wrap up isn't trying to take out a player. I played college ball as well, granted when I played was in the 90s. But, how hard is it to lower your shoulders, facemask up, wrap up, lift and drive to the ground all with feet moving, that is how a form tackle is made, not this crap players do now. Targeting would not be called near as much if players would keep their head up when they hit. Now that being said, offensive players lowering their heads is no different and they don't get called, just like a RB who stiff arms to the face doesn't get a 15yd hands to the face penalty. In the name of making the game safer I do agree they have limited the defensive players ability to nust play the game.
@@Mongo-pw9vh he is not trying to hurt him because sometimes the the angle of the tackles let you hit with the helmet and how the offense players is running and try to spin or juke the defensive players
@@terminator23destroyer15 Just so there's no confusion, I absolutely hate the rule. These players know now not to target and most are mistakes now, poor tackling mechanics, IMO. But it is not worth a 4qtr ejection. 15 yard penalty and move on IMO now.
I understand what they are trying to do, but I don't like the ejection of a player. They should only eject a player if the target shows intent with his helmet to hurt someone.
Exactly. A player goes in for a tackle leading with their shoulder and the player with the ball jukes into your helmet and all of a sudden its a penalty and ejection.
The ejection of the player is to get a point across. As a defensive player, you have to be very conscious of where and how you hit someone. Just hitting someone helmet first to give a “hard hit” can potentially harm yourself or others. If you get ejected for being careless with a hit then you are much less likely to do so in future.
That's how it's been called since the 80's (only eject if you think the player it trying to injure someone). But guess what hasn't happened since the 80's: calling it that way has not removed this hit from the game. Therefore a stiffer penalty needs to be adopted to get players to learn not to do this.
The rule has been the same for awhile now. If players continue to lead with the crown of their helmet they should be ejected. Especially with everything we know regarding concussions and CTE now. You know you’re going to be ejected if you target another player. If you decide to do so anyway you shouldn’t be allowed to endanger the health and safety of everyone else. The risk of CTE is too great; we now know that it doesn’t take a ton of hits/concussions to cause CTE.
You’re absolutely right. Also it’s not like they aren’t being taught that leading with the crown will result in a targeting penalty and subsequent ejection. They know and yet they still choose to do so anyway.
He lowered his head, he launched and led with the crown of the helmet. Classic targeting. It doesn't matter that he hit him in the side, it could have been Fields' leg and it would still be targeting.
The 1st play ... #47 Great tackle ! What's he (47) supposed to do? Spin his head around °360 ? Let him just run past him? These rules blow! I no longer understand the rules 🤷
So when did leading with the shoulder translate to leading with the crown of the helmet, Targeting. Plus the Georgia player of the 1st clip didn't even make contact. And I thought defenseless player penalty get an unsportsmanlike unless I know little about the rules.
Targeting is no longer just the crown of the helmet, although that is targeting every day. According to rule 9 in the NCAA rule book, targeting can also be simply. “leading with helmet, shoulder, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area”. Also, according to rule 2-27-14, there are 9 different types of defenseless players, including “A player in the act of or just after throwing a pass.” as well as “a receiver attempting to catch a forward pass or in position to receive a backward pass, or one who has completed a catch and has not had time to protect himself or has not clearly become a ball carrier”. It’s a lot more nuanced that it used to be.
No player shall target and make forcible contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless opponent with the helmet, forearm, hand, fist, elbow or shoulder.
I don't know enough about the sport to offer an informed opinion but I DO think it's amazing how many experts have taken the time to watch this video. Thank you for keeping us right ✌
That Skalski will play foodball in a jail in the future. He seems to have no idea what he did. He is not even sorry either is not worried about the hurt that Fields got.
I know in rugby you really can’t be extremely accurate on where you are gonna hit so I can’t imagine how it is with a helmet added on, you just get low and wrap
Have to realize also that a lot of the games have Retired Refs for Commentary. They're the Ones Really that are making Calls. And, You know that Someone on either Coaching Staff are listening to the game on TV
If the receiver is already going down and giving himself up, it is not only targeting but a late hit as well. No need to tackle at all, tap him on the shoulder, not hit him with your helmet. He’s already down. Even the tap could be a late hit but you have a much better chance than slamming your helmet into a player who is already down.
@@richardbeckenbaugh1805 bruh naw some people look like they're gonna go down only to put a hand down keeping themselves up to get more yards imagine your team thinking he's defenseless and tapping him only to have the offensive player keep himself up and run it in for a td
@@squaeman_2644 in college whenever you hit the ground the play is dead its not the nfl where you have to tap them to down it so if someone is on the ground and you still dont hear a whistle try hitting them you will get disqualified like seen here 💀
The first one really was not targeting. It was just a referee who was upset that his Vegas bets were being threatened by a 14-0 deficit and said to the crew "we need to call a targeting penalty on Clemson" while they checked on an injured player. Football referees are crooked people who can't keep their noses out of Vegas betting and call a fair game.
Why is the BYU player ejected. His was by accident, while the other player did on purpose! Makes no sense. Most of these were not targeting. In my opinion.
There is no penalty for an offensive player that disqualifies them. Don’t say throwing a punch, because that is for defense too, anyone can get ejected For that
I still don’t understand the whole defenseless receiver thing. Like if he’s just caught the ball why can’t the defensive player hit him (obviously not in the head) to force an incompletion???
I'll tell you why my young padawan ... when the defender and receiver are that close, the defender could just as easily go for the ball and knock it loose instead of trying to inflict injury by going for the man. That is what makes a thug out of a ball player. The same principle applies to hunting birds. You never shoot a sitting duck; if you do, your a thug and will be asked to leave the club.
@@larrybaxter6881 F that, *you dont say same thing for RBs, TEs, WRs who try to truck (target) l and run over defensive players and inflect injury when they could easily juke or maneuver around them* especially in close proximity to gain more yardage stop the BS and hypocrisy.
@@larrybaxter6881 Get off the field then baby. If the defender knocks the receiver out guess what happens, next time that receiver is called up he's gonna flinch and may drop the ball again. As a defender you make an example of anyone coming into your zone.
It shouldn't be targeting if the ball is involved in play bc your supposed to engage someone w the ball, so call it roughing the runner at least or something that doesn't get them ejected
@@Anonymous38572 then the punishment isn't strong enough to enforce proper tackling techniques and fundamentals. That's like giving a drunk driver a fine but no license suspension or jail time.
Ok NCAA, make it flag football now, I thought targeting was around the neck and head area, that was a shot to the ribs, NOT TARGETING, CLEAN HIT. What out football fans of College and NFL, pretty soon you will see flags around their waist, just give it time. Its coming
@@Enlightenment99 that's in the head and neck area bruh, that hit is the same kind of hits I saw all last weekend to start the 1st week of football bruh, so what's the difference, I rather take a shot to the ribs like that, than in head or neck area. He got back up, he finished playing the game and he he played in the NC game. That was a clean shot to me.
@@Enlightenment99 Every single tackle leads with the crown. Literally every one. Its part of football and if you fail to see that you’re either a new fan or blind
@@tfljay3156 But his head would’ve still be down that’s the actual problem, you shouldn’t be looking at the ground while making a tackle. If his head is up while making that tackle there is no flag, it’s pretty simple.
They shouldn't call it targeting. That implies the player had time to think and aim on purpose. These all happen in a moments time and are not done on purpose. They are playing football and it is a rough sport. Nothing can be done to avoid these collisions.
All they have to do is keep thier heads up. That's it. You can clearly see all of them intentionally lowering there heads. Why don't you go stand there and take a 250+ pound plus man ramming his helmet covered head into your ribs and see how you feel.
Was Skalski supposed to like not stop him from getting the first down? Fields was absolutely not a defenseless player, and he hit him well below the head or neck area AND fields spun into the tackle. If it was any position other than QB it wouldn’t have been called
The targeting law needs to be better worded and defined as the only way to tackle someone with your shoulders without breaking your own neck is to put your head down, thus the helmet is lowered, that's basic physics. Once the tackler is in a good position to tackle how they hit will depend on how the ball carrier moves in the final steps. In the first case of No: 47 he set up to do a clean tackle then the ball carrier moved and tried to twist aside, and that's what caused the helmet contact. If the ball carrier had not moved to the side the tackler's helmet would have gone beside his body. I've seen cases where the tackler deliberately aimed their helmet at the ball carrier, but that was not the case in this tackle, nor in many others. The call on the play being reviewed at 8:46 is another clear case of the ball carrier's action causing the bad hit as the defender is committed to tackling a running player when the ball carrier decides to throw himself backward to the ground and that change of position by the ball carrier causes the contact to be with his head and not his body. Of course the whole targeting issue can be done away with by going to 'flag football' rules. I suspect the continued enforcement of targeting calls when the ball carrier causes the improper contact by their movements will see a changing in tackling from a simple grasp of the player to full body checks the flatten them on the move, and that will result in more serious long term harm to the players. Maybe they they need to put some padding on the crown of the helmet and then change the rules to allow the crown of the helmet contact with the body.
Helmet to helmet is 100% targeting but this is absolutely targeting this is extremely dangerous for either player also, you don’t have to him them helmet to helmet I knew that before you just have to lower your crown of the helmet to the midsection or anywhere and it’s targeting
Love most of these comments. I played football in high school. I'm only 5'6" and a slow white guy so I didn't play in college🤔😂. However, if you're trying to just put your shoulder into an offensive player to knock them down without wrapping up and taking them to the ground. Go screw yourself. Hit the offensive player as hard as you can, drive through them, wrap your arms around them and take them down. Wrestlers are better on defense. A take down is a sure thing! Targeting rules are like telling am army soldier to just lightly slap an enemy in hand to hand combat. Casualties will follow a collision between 200+pound male athletes. If you disagree, then let's pay all football players a standard 30k/year wage and make it a touch football game so nobody gets hurt. While you're at it, hand everyone a big participation trophy 🤔😂
Targeting has to be the stupidest foul invented in the history of the game in my opinion. Like every year they come up with bullshit just to make defense toothless. Like seriously, the game us getting softer than soccer. Bullshit like 12:16 at the most that's roughing the passer despite it being uneccsary, period. Never understood why it's an automatic ejection penalty eithe while NFL players can sass to the refs and hit other players like this and not get called on it. And you know as a defensive player even if it's not intentional all it takes is the offensive player juke one inch in one direction and you're thrown out for a bullshit reason.
Offensive player can just run at a defender at full speed and knock him out but if a defender tackles too hard its a penalty. It's a violent sport. Throwing flags on players making great plays just ruin the game for me.
90% of the time, targeting is just an excuse used by officials to throw out key players during an accidental "dangerous" hit. The rule needs to be rewriting so that there's zero room for interpretation or removed all together. I'm so tired of this ruining games
The whole “defenseless player” calls are so stupid. Wtf is the defender supposed to do? It’s football if you don’t want to get hit don’t get on the field.
I think more coaches need to really go over targeting and the dangers of leading with the helmet. It’s not a good tackle if you or the other person gets injured. I don’t love football that much that I want to see players taken out the game permanently because of a player tackling wrong.
How in the world is that Tackle by the Clemson player against the Ohio State quarterback targeting? That was a 100% clean and very good hit. It's football come on give me a stinking break
Don't you love when these commentators love the hit "good, physical" and then when an official correspondent says it's targeting they automatically can't stomach to watch it all of a sudden
The announcers giving their opinion is a conflict of interest.
Or they'll say "yeah, that was a textbook case of targeting." LOL
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they might not have seen the targeting until the replay
It wouldn't look good on the sport overall if the commentators were to talk about how violent and dangerous it can be. It kills the atmosphere the TV companies are trying to create. But it's harder to avoid that topic when the refs stop the game and start issuing penalties.
When I played, I was taught to put your face masks through the numbers. I was also taught that hitting with the top of your head will break your neck.
That is one reason why targeting is illegal. It is very unsafe for tackler.
@@RoyalMelaI’ve done helmet to helmet tackles on people from 6-8 little league to varsity HS. Never had a concussion or a broken neck. It’s not as “unsafe” as most think. Now if you’re both running full speed before the collision then yes, it’s unsafe but 9/10 that’s not the scenario. We were taught, they give you a helmet for a reason - don’t be scared to use it. At least throughout my time, when people catch word that you purposely use your helmet, they don’t wanna be hit by you.
@@SandyRavage410it’s really unsafe. Really bad for the spine and brain to lead with your head and target the impact on your head. Football is really dangerous as is of course but there are styles that make it easier on the body to play longer. A lot of people have gotten career ending injury’s even at young ages from tackling this way.
@@SandyRavage410 Yes, it is just as unsafe as people think. YOU may not have gotten injured, but people that are way more physically built, athletic and know what they're doing have seriously hurt themselves by tackling like that. Look what happened to Ryan Shazier. Broke his back, was in a wheelchair for over a year, and forced into early retirement. He STILL hasn't been able to work out regularly. And should I bring up CTE data? Lmfao. Just because you aren't immediately hurt doesn't mean everything is fine.
@justinsprouse6172 Bruh your helmet is not a weapon. It's for protection.
18:20 “HURRY THE FUCK UP!!!” 💀🤣
Never understood why NFL players never fell backwards for 1st downs. Now I know that you will get 10 years taken off your life if you do lol.
Of course it's targeting. You have the ball so you're the target 🎯
that’s what i’m sayin
Ikr wtf bihh this football not bal-A
@@Anonymous38572 what? The only thing that makes sense in that is football and not. What language are you trying to speak?
How about you suit up and take the crown of the helmet to the ribs or chest and then say you're the target because you have the ball
@@DEXD72472 that would hurt the tackler more than the commenter. Now if proper technique is fallowed then it would be a shoulder to the back or ribs.
That Skalski guy from clemson is going to paralyze himself tackling like that
I always said this when watching him. He was kind of a dirty player.
I agree but In flim from nfl they gonna fix that cause he is gonna hurt his self
that was on Fields the whole way... he turned RIGHT into the tackle.
@@csnide6702thank you because literally he was doing a form tackle but fields spun into it making it a targeting call it was bs
It was leading with the helmet that was the problem regardless of what Fields did.
They really need to remake the targeting rules because it is way to broad and consequences are way to harsh. What's skalski supposed to do on that play? Not hit him?
He’s supposed to keep his head up, quit being biased and salty that he can’t tackle
He’s supposed to not tackle with his head ?
Especially since this was not his first disqualification for this EXACT SAME THING. He absolutely should know better. If he had kept his head up, he could have hit Fields just as hard, and would have been in the rest of the game to help his teamates. He knew what he was doing-- he saw a shot to knock out their star, and he took it. Came back to bite him.
@@joshholzinger13 you obviously have to go back to snowflake league my guy
@@joshholzinger13 Justin turned his back to him last second.
Jeez that first play is dangerous af for 47.
Couldve ended up like Ryan Shazier
as a buckeye fan it hurts but makes me fell happy
The 2020-21 college football season will go down as one of the most unique in history.
How so? I don’t pay attention to it
@@Zach-cn4lbnot to be snide, but there was a pretty big world event in 2020…
@@Jackson-bm9mo that’s it?
@@Jackson-bm9mo Please be more specific, I can't understand your implication with the limited data you're providing. Was it unique only because it happened at the time of the C-19 or did other factors play a part?
I disagree with a number of these. Yes, I absolutely agree that more needs to be done to address head issues in football, but on a few of them, the defender goes in for a perfect tackle, then the receiver's level changes, which means that perfect tackle now hits the receiver's head. You can't make defenders wait for the receiver to make the catch, make a football move & start advancing the ball before making contact.
Then teach defenders not to hit players in the head or neck with a shoulder or helmet. Most of the ones shown were back of the head shots. Just not needed.
just dont lower your head before takle
@@dgrblue4162 did you not read the guys comment, he clearly stated it wasnt intentional.
@dgrblue4162 They do exactly that idiot. No coach teaches a player to lead with there. Tell me you don't know anything about football without telling me you don't know anything about football
Unless the player made the catch over his shoulder (and is therefore facing the end zone anyway), the offensive player is likely going to pull their head down as they're turning and tucking the ball to run...wait those two seconds or so and drop him (or make an appropriate low tackle).
The first one in my opinion shouldn't be targeting, if the quarterback actually knew how to spin juke, then he wouldn't have gotten hit like that, hell even if he slid he wouldn't have gotten hit like that
Looked to me like he was trying to hit with his l. shoulder and the qb turned into the helmet.
Your clearly biased. When your tackling you have to keep your head up, it’s not that difficult
Maybe not lowering your helmet like he did, and there isn’t targeting.
The rule also is in place to keep defenders safe (think of Ryan Shazier, same type of tackle that nearly paralyzed him)
The first one was targeting to protect the defender. The first thing you are taught as a kid when it comes to tackling is keep your head up. You see his neck compress in the video. If his head is up it doesn't matter what the QB does. He is lucky to be walking.
@@gofigure84 exactly
This targeting rule is unfair.
It seems only tacklers can get targeting. I have seen ball carriers lower their heads and hit some and they are never called
Or the offensive player runs into the defensive player, and the defensive player gets the call.
RB'S do this shit on every play. Half of the ejections were because the wr lowered their head. This us why I can't watch too much football anymore. Trying to prevent injuries in a violent game. Take away the equipment if you want to "eliminate " head injuries. Even that won't work..
@Henry Bartholomew Dinglenut i played ball through college, its a violent game. One of the takeaways from my pops who is still willing me. The only game you can try and physically hurt someone within the rules with no consequences. I love football and the violence of it and I get the danger aspect but if you don't want that, don't play. No o e thinks 250 running a 4.5 running into a 230 pound guy running a 4.3 is a good idea but the NFL makes billions promoting it. Just sayin.
@Henry Bartholomew Dinglenut and sir...you get it!!! Why do you think its so popular. Modern day coliseum, without the gore and death.
When I played football people like Ray Lewis and Ronnie Lott inspired me. I laid a lot on the field and sacrificed my body and health for wins (I wasn't even getting paid millions, but I got a lot of respect and props). It inspired my team to do the same for me and together we made it to a championship. This is the point, violence is absolutely part of the game.
It's a simple rule. 1.Don't go for the head
2. Keep your head up when you hit.
If defenders drop their heads they not only risk concussion but a broken neck.
Head up, legs bent, wrap up, and lift.
Key thing is "Head up".
Dude listen OBVIOUSLY their seeing what their hitting to me this is a good hit.
No it's not because they doesn't know what it's is. The rules say targeting is when a player target other players to hurt him so that players can get out of the game. I played college football for the UM
@@terminator23destroyer15 So lowering your head and making no attempt to wrap up isn't trying to take out a player. I played college ball as well, granted when I played was in the 90s. But, how hard is it to lower your shoulders, facemask up, wrap up, lift and drive to the ground all with feet moving, that is how a form tackle is made, not this crap players do now. Targeting would not be called near as much if players would keep their head up when they hit. Now that being said, offensive players lowering their heads is no different and they don't get called, just like a RB who stiff arms to the face doesn't get a 15yd hands to the face penalty. In the name of making the game safer I do agree they have limited the defensive players ability to nust play the game.
@@Mongo-pw9vh he is not trying to hurt him because sometimes the the angle of the tackles let you hit with the helmet and how the offense players is running and try to spin or juke the defensive players
@@terminator23destroyer15 Just so there's no confusion, I absolutely hate the rule. These players know now not to target and most are mistakes now, poor tackling mechanics, IMO. But it is not worth a 4qtr ejection. 15 yard penalty and move on IMO now.
The first guy was in the perfect position but the WB tried to spin and that’s why it looked like it was targeting.
Qb
Still he went in with his head
no targeting if he keeps his head up lmao
I understand what they are trying to do, but I don't like the ejection of a player. They should only eject a player if the target shows intent with his helmet to hurt someone.
Exactly. A player goes in for a tackle leading with their shoulder and the player with the ball jukes into your helmet and all of a sudden its a penalty and ejection.
The ejection of the player is to get a point across. As a defensive player, you have to be very conscious of where and how you hit someone. Just hitting someone helmet first to give a “hard hit” can potentially harm yourself or others. If you get ejected for being careless with a hit then you are much less likely to do so in future.
That's how it's been called since the 80's (only eject if you think the player it trying to injure someone). But guess what hasn't happened since the 80's: calling it that way has not removed this hit from the game. Therefore a stiffer penalty needs to be adopted to get players to learn not to do this.
The rule has been the same for awhile now. If players continue to lead with the crown of their helmet they should be ejected. Especially with everything we know regarding concussions and CTE now. You know you’re going to be ejected if you target another player. If you decide to do so anyway you shouldn’t be allowed to endanger the health and safety of everyone else. The risk of CTE is too great; we now know that it doesn’t take a ton of hits/concussions to cause CTE.
You’re absolutely right. Also it’s not like they aren’t being taught that leading with the crown will result in a targeting penalty and subsequent ejection. They know and yet they still choose to do so anyway.
Fields spun into the helmet. How do they the defender to change their direction in 0.2 seconds?
Yeah, that fields hit was clean as hell. JF is a running back, that's a bullshit call.
He lowered his head, he launched and led with the crown of the helmet.
Classic targeting.
It doesn't matter that he hit him in the side, it could have been Fields' leg and it would still be targeting.
The 1st play ... #47 Great tackle !
What's he (47) supposed to do?
Spin his head around °360 ?
Let him just run past him?
These rules blow!
I no longer understand the rules 🤷
Yeah imo that was a bs call and I like THE ohio state
Yeah that was dumb. I guess he supposed to disconnect his head and momentarily throw it into the air
So when did leading with the shoulder translate to leading with the crown of the helmet, Targeting. Plus the Georgia player of the 1st clip didn't even make contact. And I thought defenseless player penalty get an unsportsmanlike unless I know little about the rules.
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Targeting is no longer just the crown of the helmet, although that is targeting every day. According to rule 9 in the NCAA rule book, targeting can also be simply. “leading with helmet, shoulder, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area”. Also, according to rule 2-27-14, there are 9 different types of defenseless players, including “A player in the act of or just after throwing a pass.” as well as “a receiver attempting to catch a forward pass or in position to receive a backward pass, or one who has completed a catch and has not had time to protect himself or has not clearly become a ball carrier”. It’s a lot more nuanced that it used to be.
No player shall target and make forcible contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless opponent with the helmet, forearm, hand, fist, elbow or shoulder.
I don't know enough about the sport to offer an informed opinion but I DO think it's amazing how many experts have taken the time to watch this video. Thank you for keeping us right ✌
next step for the NCAA would be to turn this into flag football instead lol
Defense gets penalties for the offense’s mistakes. However, the clemson hit was spearing idk about targeting.
Which hit the very first one against THE Ohio state
@@dubb3835 against THE Ohio State, sir
@@Enlightenment99 yeah I even made a comment on how that was a good hit and I'm a life-long fan of THE Ohio state buckeyes
@@dubb3835 imo it’s not. Especially for the clemson linebacker since he lead with the crown of his helmet. We don’t want any neck injuries.
@@Enlightenment99 hold on just went back and rewatched it I was thinking about a different play
1st one was a clean tackle Fields turned into his helmet
4:57 he kept his head up though
James “The Ejector” Skalski.
“Son, when you hit ‘em, don’t get disqualified.”
At 14:55 the announcer was dead on with saying O and D linemen should have a wrestling background. In HS our best RB was a state champ wrestler
lol seen alot of these and it seems whoever is wearing 1 on their jersey must commit targeting every chance they get apparently
🤣🤣 dam poor Fields, hes the only player I seen spin into a tackle
no cap
im so surprised 47 didn’t get paralyzed. that guy went STRAIGHT INTO FIELDS with his head. his helmet went into his pads. that guy is so lucky.
That Skalski will play foodball in a jail in the future. He seems to have no idea what he did. He is not even sorry either is not worried about the hurt that Fields got.
he didn't do anything wrong he made a good hit but fields tried a spin move last second causing the contact
@@andrewgilbert384thought I was the only one who saw that. All that momentum went right into his upper neck. How is he not paralyzed?
I know in rugby you really can’t be extremely accurate on where you are gonna hit so I can’t imagine how it is with a helmet added on, you just get low and wrap
18:20 Random fan, “Hurry the F*** up!”
Why was the BYU guy ejected not the red one
My grandpa used to be a ref and says that missousi vs arcansa #32 was a clen hit but what do i know im 10
Have to realize also that a lot of the games have Retired Refs for Commentary. They're the Ones Really that are making Calls. And, You know that Someone on either Coaching Staff are listening to the game on TV
That first one, should have shown it 17 more times.
How does a guy on his knees get called for targeting?
It wasnt 47 fault Justin Fields doesnt know how to spin
It wasn’t Fields fault that #47 wasn’t taught how to make a tackle.
How is that guy from auburn supposed to tackle a guy who is already going to the ground??? That rule is such a bogus rule bruh
Man that's what I am saying the only other option was just let him catch it
If the receiver is already going down and giving himself up, it is not only targeting but a late hit as well. No need to tackle at all, tap him on the shoulder, not hit him with your helmet. He’s already down. Even the tap could be a late hit but you have a much better chance than slamming your helmet into a player who is already down.
@@richardbeckenbaugh1805 bruh naw some people look like they're gonna go down only to put a hand down keeping themselves up to get more yards imagine your team thinking he's defenseless and tapping him only to have the offensive player keep himself up and run it in for a td
@@richardbeckenbaugh1805 the play ends at the whistle. Not before.
@@squaeman_2644 in college whenever you hit the ground the play is dead its not the nfl where you have to tap them to down it so if someone is on the ground and you still dont hear a whistle try hitting them you will get disqualified like seen here 💀
Fields spun into that targeting
It doesn’t matter he did but he still used his helmet
That was to protect the defender, that exact tackle is how shazier got hurt
Oh my.. He tackled him.. Targeting...
The first one really was not targeting. It was just a referee who was upset that his Vegas bets were being threatened by a 14-0 deficit and said to the crew "we need to call a targeting penalty on Clemson" while they checked on an injured player.
Football referees are crooked people who can't keep their noses out of Vegas betting and call a fair game.
Idk if u saw the score at that point in the game but it definitely wasn’t 14-0 lmao
@@Nick-fo6fo Clemson couldn’t even stop a player with multiple broken ribs.
Why is the BYU player ejected. His was by accident, while the other player did on purpose! Makes no sense. Most of these were not targeting. In my opinion.
BYU initiated it though!
It’s accidental but he still did it
the lecount one was without a doubt clean
There is no penalty for an offensive player that disqualifies them. Don’t say throwing a punch, because that is for defense too, anyone can get ejected For that
Turnover > Targeting. Happened to an NAU qb once
Half of these are bullshit calls. Might as well just turn it into flag football.
I still don’t understand the whole defenseless receiver thing. Like if he’s just caught the ball why can’t the defensive player hit him (obviously not in the head) to force an incompletion???
I'll tell you why my young padawan ... when the defender and receiver are that close, the defender could just as easily go for the ball and knock it loose instead of trying to inflict injury by going for the man. That is what makes a thug out of a ball player. The same principle applies to hunting birds. You never shoot a sitting duck; if you do, your a thug and will be asked to leave the club.
@@larrybaxter6881 F that, *you dont say same thing for RBs, TEs, WRs who try to truck (target) l and run over defensive players and inflect injury when they could easily juke or maneuver around them* especially in close proximity to gain more yardage stop the BS and hypocrisy.
@@larrybaxter6881 Get off the field then baby. If the defender knocks the receiver out guess what happens, next time that receiver is called up he's gonna flinch and may drop the ball again. As a defender you make an example of anyone coming into your zone.
how could you not have the Arkansas targeting call. we had two this season that were awful.
Targeting should be a rule for high school and lower. College and pro’s assume and accept the risk.
if they want to solve the concussion issue all they have to do is use less padding
When you can no longer lower your head to make a tackle we need to make pro football “two below.” As I grew up with playing with pansies!
It shouldn't be targeting if the ball is involved in play bc your supposed to engage someone w the ball, so call it roughing the runner at least or something that doesn't get them ejected
Roughing the runner????? I don't know where to start.
@@gofigure84 ik it's not a thing it's a penalty they should make instead of disqualifying the player in a heavy contact sport
@@Anonymous38572 then the punishment isn't strong enough to enforce proper tackling techniques and fundamentals. That's like giving a drunk driver a fine but no license suspension or jail time.
@@gofigure84 dude soccer already exist. This is football we're talking about
@@rhettwalker2236 what? What are you talking about soccer already exist?
Ok NCAA, make it flag football now, I thought targeting was around the neck and head area, that was a shot to the ribs, NOT TARGETING, CLEAN HIT.
What out football fans of College and NFL, pretty soon you will see flags around their waist, just give it time. Its coming
Can’t lead with the crown of the helmet my g
@@Enlightenment99 that's in the head and neck area bruh, that hit is the same kind of hits I saw all last weekend to start the 1st week of football bruh, so what's the difference, I rather take a shot to the ribs like that, than in head or neck area. He got back up, he finished playing the game and he he played in the NC game. That was a clean shot to me.
@@Enlightenment99 Every single tackle leads with the crown. Literally every one. Its part of football and if you fail to see that you’re either a new fan or blind
Any player called for targeting needs to be banned from sports for life.
Seems like the refs are discussing dinner plans
I used to watch fields play high school football for Duquesne in pa
Can't believe it, skalski got ejected for making a big boy tackle
Yes, a big paralyzed boy tackle. Literally the opposite of what they taught us as kids.
@@aidenkuseski4828 he spent into the hit if the qb never spent it would been a good hit wasn’t defender fault in my opinion
@@tfljay3156 But his head would’ve still be down that’s the actual problem, you shouldn’t be looking at the ground while making a tackle. If his head is up while making that tackle there is no flag, it’s pretty simple.
Skalski play was not head to head contact
He could have paralyzed himself that’s why it was targeting, the whole rule is to protect the tackler as much as the player who is being hit
Doesn’t have to be. You can’t hit anything with the crown of your helmet.
Only one I disagree with is 10:14 this isn't forceful enough to warrant a targeting and ejection.
First one don’t make any sense
The rule of targeting was made to protect the defender and the person being hit. On Skalski’s hit he is lucky to not be paralyzed like Ryan shazier
You missed when the evil Georgia dogs targeted Kyle Pitts in 2020
Targeting? This is football. What a bunch of babies.
How do you hit a person with your showder without using your head. It is a bad call
Why do the running backs and quarterback are allowed to use the crown of the helmet to hit the defense of players
Random Sugar, Sugar.
First clip was a great hit by the Clemson linebacker.
Lmao for a minute there I thought somebody was hacking my phone and messing with the video but this whole time it is the video 😂
They shouldn't call it targeting. That implies the player had time to think and aim on purpose. These all happen in a moments time and are not done on purpose. They are playing football and it is a rough sport. Nothing can be done to avoid these collisions.
Sad that the offender's teammates, coach, and the announcers all support him and yet show no concern for the player targeted.
Remove targeting penalties from football! Unless someone launches up at someone’s head- the contact is accidental
@BLAKE ARNETT I edited my original comment- it was a bit vague.
All they have to do is keep thier heads up. That's it. You can clearly see all of them intentionally lowering there heads. Why don't you go stand there and take a 250+ pound plus man ramming his helmet covered head into your ribs and see how you feel.
@@kelbyschultz1877 1) I did in high school
2) these guys all choose to play and helmets are gonna inevitably collide
@@bloodorange6713 EXACTLY!
I think the game is better when games don't have to stop because someone broke their neck like Ryan Shazier did but that is just me I guess.
Was Skalski supposed to like not stop him from getting the first down? Fields was absolutely not a defenseless player, and he hit him well below the head or neck area AND fields spun into the tackle. If it was any position other than QB it wouldn’t have been called
The targeting law needs to be better worded and defined as the only way to tackle someone with your shoulders without breaking your own neck is to put your head down, thus the helmet is lowered, that's basic physics. Once the tackler is in a good position to tackle how they hit will depend on how the ball carrier moves in the final steps. In the first case of No: 47 he set up to do a clean tackle then the ball carrier moved and tried to twist aside, and that's what caused the helmet contact. If the ball carrier had not moved to the side the tackler's helmet would have gone beside his body. I've seen cases where the tackler deliberately aimed their helmet at the ball carrier, but that was not the case in this tackle, nor in many others.
The call on the play being reviewed at 8:46 is another clear case of the ball carrier's action causing the bad hit as the defender is committed to tackling a running player when the ball carrier decides to throw himself backward to the ground and that change of position by the ball carrier causes the contact to be with his head and not his body.
Of course the whole targeting issue can be done away with by going to 'flag football' rules. I suspect the continued enforcement of targeting calls when the ball carrier causes the improper contact by their movements will see a changing in tackling from a simple grasp of the player to full body checks the flatten them on the move, and that will result in more serious long term harm to the players.
Maybe they they need to put some padding on the crown of the helmet and then change the rules to allow the crown of the helmet contact with the body.
Helmet to helmet is 100% targeting but this is absolutely targeting this is extremely dangerous for either player also, you don’t have to him them helmet to helmet I knew that before you just have to lower your crown of the helmet to the midsection or anywhere and it’s targeting
Love most of these comments. I played football in high school. I'm only 5'6" and a slow white guy so I didn't play in college🤔😂. However, if you're trying to just put your shoulder into an offensive player to knock them down without wrapping up and taking them to the ground. Go screw yourself. Hit the offensive player as hard as you can, drive through them, wrap your arms around them and take them down. Wrestlers are better on defense. A take down is a sure thing! Targeting rules are like telling am army soldier to just lightly slap an enemy in hand to hand combat. Casualties will follow a collision between 200+pound male athletes. If you disagree, then let's pay all football players a standard 30k/year wage and make it a touch football game so nobody gets hurt. While you're at it, hand everyone a big participation trophy 🤔😂
Targeting has to be the stupidest foul invented in the history of the game in my opinion. Like every year they come up with bullshit just to make defense toothless. Like seriously, the game us getting softer than soccer.
Bullshit like 12:16 at the most that's roughing the passer despite it being uneccsary, period. Never understood why it's an automatic ejection penalty eithe while NFL players can sass to the refs and hit other players like this and not get called on it. And you know as a defensive player even if it's not intentional all it takes is the offensive player juke one inch in one direction and you're thrown out for a bullshit reason.
Being ejected for targeting is stupid, they act like the defender wants to hurt themselves trying to tackle someone moving at atleast 10 mph or more
2021 compilation?
Offensive player can just run at a defender at full speed and knock him out but if a defender tackles too hard its a penalty. It's a violent sport. Throwing flags on players making great plays just ruin the game for me.
The first one was just a tackle.
The first one is an example of the NCAA babying OSU
U weren’t winning either way bud 49-28
@@johngucciball3751 neither were you...
52-24
@@jamescollins3260 completely unrelated but ok
@@jamescollins3260 exactly bama gave them a ass whopping roll tide
But he clearly used his head as a weapon
Thats football let the guys play
That first hit was NOT targeting. That was what a linebacker MUST do.
3:39 did bro piss himself????
It’s sad in today’s game if you put a big hit on someone it’s a targeting call
If it’s helmet to helmet it’s targeting it’s to protect the players
That first one was targeting?!?!? Wth
It’s because of the leading with the crownn
First 6 clips and only the second had targeting.
The first one is a rugby tackle
first play would never have been a flag if fields didn’t get hurt
Targeting violation should end eligibility.
The leagues are going way to far these days. Maybe they out to reconsider playing tackle football.
Either remove Football off the sport center OR change to flag football. It’s so annoying to keep increasing sensitive rules.
Do you have 2021?
90% of the time, targeting is just an excuse used by officials to throw out key players during an accidental "dangerous" hit. The rule needs to be rewriting so that there's zero room for interpretation or removed all together. I'm so tired of this ruining games
Exactly and GBR
Are we just going to ignore the fact that the person that posted this screen recorded off of someone else’s RUclips at 15:50 😂🤦🏼♂️
Someone please explain, in the Oregon/Iowa St game, how one team is 4-2 and the other is 8-3??
Covid Year
The whole “defenseless player” calls are so stupid. Wtf is the defender supposed to do? It’s football if you don’t want to get hit don’t get on the field.
Love to know how these players would fair in a game of Rugby Football and not American Football --- No padding and no helmets ( a real mans game )
How is Skalski supposed to tackle with his head up? Herbstreit is such a skirt.
Nice Vid!
I think more coaches need to really go over targeting and the dangers of leading with the helmet. It’s not a good tackle if you or the other person gets injured. I don’t love football that much that I want to see players taken out the game permanently because of a player tackling wrong.
I freakin hate this "Targeting Rule"
How in the world is that Tackle by the Clemson player against the Ohio State quarterback targeting? That was a 100% clean and very good hit. It's football come on give me a stinking break
Because it's Ohio State!