Almost no-one knows the rule. Targeting" means that a player takes aim at an opponent for purposes of attacking with forcible contact that goes beyond making a legal tackle or a legal block or playing the ball. Some indicators of targeting include but are not limited to: a. Launch - a player leaving their feet to attack an opponent by an upward and forward thrust of the body to make forcible contact in the head or neck area. b. A crouch followed by an upward and forward thrust to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area, even though one or both feet are still on the ground. c. Leading with helmet, shoulder, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area. d. Lowering the head before attacking by initiating forcible contact with the crown of the helmet. ARTICLE 3. No player shall target and make forcible contact against an opponent with the crown of their helmet. ARTICLE 4. No player shall target and make forcible contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless opponent with the helmet, forearm, hand, fist, elbow or shoulder. This foul requires that there be at least one indicator of targeting: In short, helmet to helmet is not automatically targeting. And targeting can be lots of things which are not done using your helmet. And targeting can be also a hit which is not aimed to opponents head or neck area.
When tackling they should keep their head up and wrap up. When I was a kid back in the sixties that's the way they taught us just in regular P.E.. I did not play organized sports it did not interest me. I did play my share of sandlot. I totally enjoyed it, but I never hit someone to hurt them. These kids think they're invincible but they are not. Some injuries last a lifetime. I blew out my knee on a motorcycle. Had surgery when I was 15. I screwed it up again about 4 years later and had my second surgery. The third time I blew out was really the worst, I stood up from a seated position on a chair. That gave me a partial tear of an MCL, two torn meniscus, so I had my third surgery. The CT scan showed a lot of scar tissue from the first two surgeries, and two bone spurs. Thank God for orthroscopic knee surgery. I had three little incision and they cleaned up everything. I walked out of recovery and got in the car. The things that people don't understand is you have surgery on a knee a couple times and the other knee is carrying the load the rest of your life. So neither knee is normal. I was told by the doctor 30 years ago to stop riding 10-speed bikes. Something I really enjoyed doing almost my entire life up to that point. The reason I shared my experience is to try and encourage people to use good technique on the field.
From a rugby perspective, it's taught extremely early that head across the body and dropping the head is a sure fire way to get knocked out by a knee or contact. Football has for a long time utilised the helmet as part of tackling and that would have to be changed from the ground up. If I had the rule book, I'd ban any blind I.e any tackle where the eye level dips below the eyebrow. I'd ban diving twisting tackles for the same reason, the second you turn off from the target and can't see it the injury risk increases massively and lastly and most controversially, any launch of any kind. Gravity is a cruel mistress and if you can't blast someone without launching then that's a skill issue.
Targeting rules have been a part of college football for almost 10 years or around 10 years. Either these kids were never taught the right way to tackle or they don't care. Football is a high velocity impact sport. It is not a case of a rule being made just to make people not enjoy playing or viewing. I've been watching football since 1969. I stopped watching football partly because of the behavior of the athletes the other reason being the deliberate attempts to hurt people on the field. The rules are there to keep them healthy and safe. If you can't play by the rules then take up knitting
You are one of the fools that made this rule so bad. You sign up to play a high speed contact sport and then punish people for making high speed contact. Go back to bowling and leave football to the real men.
Their goal is to injure the other players . I use to do down markers for JV teams . My uncle told me for years to be come an official,they needed them. This was 25 or 30 years after I played in high school. The officials today don't throw flags and kids aren't coached to not get a penalty . The amount of dangerous play I saw from the sidelines was scarry . I said something to the line judge at a game one week and he said "why don't you become an official. I told because I'd be throwing a flag every play . He said they don't throw flags so the game goes faster (so they can get to their afternoon game on time) . I told him, many penalties are there for safety to avoid injuries . He replied, ya,I know, and that was the end of the conversation. I got clipped in the back when I was 12 in freshman football practice. MY back has been messed up ever since then. Between watching JV games and varsity games years after I graduated ,I can't recall seeing a flag thrown for clipping and it happens nearly every play but,the officials have to get to their next game. When I played games didn't last any longer than they do now because we were taught not to get a penalty and there were consequences if you did.
Coaches needed to go back to basics and get these kids to tackle properly! Wrap up at the mid-section and drive with your body! Learnt that in god damn Pop Warner twenty years ago! Christ!
It was explained clearly in several clips. If you lead with the crown, it'll get called, the position of the ball carrier only matters if they change body position and move their head/neck into the defenders shoulder.
There needs to be a Targeting 1 and Targeting 2. 1 is simply more on the lines of incidental contact if making a football play or “bracing for impact” type of plays. Like the Penn state vs Purdue call is a great example. It wasn’t targeting in my book but if you call that it would be T1. He can remain in the game and treat it like an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty. Two of those and you’re out. Targeting 1 could also be dropped to an unnecessary roughness call if there is sufficient evidence to do so. Targeting 2 is intentional like trying to take a player out. The OU-Nebraska hit is a great example. Setting up to hit the player. That’s an automatic ejection and possibly suspension. Now I will add a stipulation that if both players drop their crown of the helmets to brace for impact, BOTH players are assessed a Targeting 1 Foul, or a Targeting 2 (if intentional) and Targeting 1 for the offensive player (if crown is dropped). Offensive players could be assessed a targeting 1/2 foul if blocking.
Not only did the Penn State player commit targeting it was also a late hit and unnecessary roughness. How you can defend this obvious penalty boggles the mind.
How do you determine or perceive intent? Don't answer because it's your perception. When rules are based on perception of the ref. Then more complaining will come
@@Blee48 agreed. I like the idea of a "flagrant" targeting vs an incidental one but it's just too hard to prove intent in those situations. We can typically tell when watching on TV or from highlights but in the heat of the moment, some of these guys might just be amped up with no intention to really hurt the other guy with a dirty play.
I don't think you understand the meaning of "targeting" meaning you are actively trying to make contact which results in harm. Most of these shown are not that.
@maekklyn Yeah it is that complicated because you haven't read the rule...so here it is for you Note 1: "Targeting" means that a player takes aim at an opponent for purposes of attacking with forcible contact that goes beyond making a legal tackle or a legal block or playing the ball.
Offensive guys shouldn't be allowed to lower their helmets either. If it's so dangerous for defenders why isn't dangerous for the ball carrier. I don't agree with these rules. These guys have been trained to hit like this since peewee. I know something has to change but I think there are smarter ways to implement and judge these types of incidents.
@@vincentowen3669 Rugby doesn't have as many injuries because they teach a different type of tackling. It's not the lack of headgear that keeps injuries away - it's the education and training.
the penn state announcer was a joke, the defender is trying to get to the ball, yeah let me drive my head into the offensive player. They should consider hitting the team with a fine.
@@Z_Rodriguez13they showed the replay in slow motion and the guy instantly said “some incidental contact to the side of the head” not only that but a almost grounded completely defenseless player. Kinda a funny clip. They watch that hit and then proceed to absolutely suck off number 11 as a player and how much he means and then he gets targeting hahaha
@@Mythowars bro right like I dk who was paying them to not saying anything bad about him but it was a ridiculous play for sure, I do agree though the clip in itself is kinda funny
I remember playing pee-wee football a LONG time ago. We were always taught to hit with our shoulders. Then somewhere along the way, the helmet was used more and more to lead the tackle. I'm not a defensive football coach, but it seems to me that the head is not what you want to start your tackle with..... considering how few college football players make it to the NFL, it's a worthy cause to avoid catastrophic injuries. Now getting to the pro level, the ridiculous increase in protection for quarterbacks.... I mean eye roll, it is a contact sport. I'm not talking about when the QB goes into the slide (or any other player), but I'm mixed. The player could slide all the way to a first down...
@@cgilleybsw reminder that when a QB goes into a slide, the distance of the slide is irrelevant, the ball is spotted where the slide begins. That is to avoid the exact thing you're suggesting. I officiate for youth and high school football, and both coaches and officials frequently tell players to "look at what you're hitting". The prevailing teaching at that level now is to keep the head up, and wrap with the arms. some hits with the head do still occur, especially certain types of plays, but it is steadily improving. I think that we will see that effect work its way up to college, and then to the NFL over the next couple of years.
What else would you lead with?? Clearly you have never played the game and don't understand the velocity at which the game is played especially at the college level and above. You can't control exactly where your head is going to hit the other player. Most of the time when a player uses his shoulder to hit the player and it causes a big collision and a concussion the defensive player still gets a targeting penalty/ Targeting really means any big hit at this point. It has destroyed the game of football.
I guarantee this rule is covered over and over again in training. The coaches know the rule, the players know the rule. But they continue to do it despite all the training and warnings. Kinda makes you question their intent and integrity.
Kinda makes me question whether you have ever played a single snap of football. If you had you would no how difficult it is to make a tackle let alone have full control of where your helmet lands on the other players body.
@@fiat2496 Most of the time it's not about where the helmet hits. It's the fact that they lead with the helmet. They explain it in the video. Once you lower your head, you can't hit them from head to toe.
Never ceases to amaze how some of the idiot announcers will sit there and say “that doesn’t look like targeting to me” as replay shows it clearly is! Thank God those geniuses aren’t actually officials out on the field.
IMO I think the targeting call should also be called on offense. When any player lower the head prior to contact targeting should be called. I also think that face mask should be called against offense when running with the ball and stiff arm the head. Make it fair if it is going to be called.
i have seen a lot of targeting calls that should have never been called, and have seen some that should have been call that weren't called, they need to redefined the rule.
A lot of these refs are betting on games they're assigned to. There's a reason why they call and look past stuff in each game. Sports gambling has ruined sports.
Athletes themselves complain about concussions. These calls are protective and if people don’t like them, that’s their own problem. Kids are taught from a young age to hit wrong. Everyone wants some big flashy hit and if you have a skilled offensive player, you won’t stop them. Can’t run without your legs. Stop the legs, stop the player. Teach them right, keep them safe, watch longer, healthier careers from great players. Quit complaining about a rule change and FOLLOW THE RULE. It’s not rocket science.
For real. CTE is no laughing matter. For those that think that CTE is made up or no big thing, go look to Google and look up Brains that have CTE. You'll change your tune really quick. CTE can occur even with non-concussion causing impacts to the head.
the penn state/purdue ejection was another example of a proper application of the rule, the commentartors are fools for thinking a hit to the head can be justified in this case.
1st video, you say text book targeting. That's how they teach it at Texas. When your called for targeting & you go off the field laughing you should miss at least 5 games and then maybe you will understand.
I never understood this rule they taught me when i first started playing football was head on ball so I understand trying to break a habit that you been doing as a child is hard
They have a targeting rule, too. I personally think most of the players are just more mature and more professional -- mutually respecting other players -- so it doesn't happen as often. The refs are probably better trained, as well, which probably helps the calls being made more accurately.
Why can the running back lower his head and lead with the crown of the helmet? When the rules first came out both offense and defense were abide by those rules.
Guy launches helmet to helmet for a vicious late hit on the side of a defenseless players brain, mike pereira basically says "use common sense, thats a bad call." Next clip, guy barely bops a guy in the chestpad, Mike Pereira says "oh yeah thats 100% targeting." What a clown
In the Tenn. v S. Carolina kerfuffle, if the South Carolina player had lifted his head would the Tenn. player have been guilty of targeting since he would have initiated contact with the crown of his helmet?
The coaches are as much to blame as the player who committed the targeting. They don't appear to be doing anything to stop the players committing these offenses. To pat them on the back or head is ridiculous. They should all be kicked in the a**.
All I see is legit hits, these guys are running so fast and are so big, it's impossible to stop on a dime. They're ruining college football, now they pay them a million dollars a year and you're not allowed to hit them.
I don't care what Mike says #11 in white was never going for the ball, he went straight into the helmet then stood up & flexed never trying to get the ball. Even if he was going for the ball he still went into the head with the helmet.
It's missing the TXST-Southern Miss targeting call with TXST #12 Tory Spears that was nowhere even close to targeting. It's just great football being played.
first time I seen the call against KY against Iowa and yes that should have been targeting and not happy with these other announcers calling Us buckeyes instead of Hawkeyes ugh This is the reason why I only listen to our own announcers
Some of these are just kinda... not targeting. You can get technical all day but some of these players are not going in to hurt others or make big hits and they barely cross the thin grey line in the motion theyre performing.
I love how the other players and coaches and staff all pat the guy on the helmet or shoulder like he did a good job, and he did nothing wrong. No wonder targeting continues to hapen.
What gets me is all the "buddies" that come up and pat the guy who did the targeting telling him "Hey it's ok man" and it's NOT ok. Why are they not teaching basic tackling anymore in football, rather than "Go for the guy's head and see if you can concuss them enough to get them to drop the ball"? For almost all of these plays (except for the late hits) if the guy trying to make the tackle had simply put a shoulder pad into the other guy's midsection, they could have tackled them easily and completed the play. But no, they'd rather go out there head hunting. I'm glad college is cracking down on this but the penalties need to be more severe because the guys don't get it, and neither does their coaching staff. Second targeting penalty of the season should be an automatic disqualification from all sports participation for a calendar year - start doing that and I'll wager you'll see targeting become as rare as a penguin racing a peregrine falcon in the air. No one is going to risk being sat for an entire calendar year from all sports.
The Ten - S Car should have been called against offense. Defensive player wasnt even moving. Runner lowered his head and lead with crown of helmet. Some of these should have never been called or called against offense.
Yeah....the Penn State player was trying to get to the ball BY TAKING THE HEAD OFF OF THE PURDUE PLAYER! This was an open-and-shut case of targeting. No 11 of Penn State DESERVED to be ejected.
I have always hated targeting bc its like what is a defender supposed to do. your not supposed to lead with ur helmet but its physically impossible to do so
@@alexandergudajtes2468 It is OK to hit with your helmet first. It is not OK to use the crown of the helmet. There is no rule which says you get a penalty with a helmet first hit.
PSU call on #11 was a little much... We let that ride as a targeting call and they WILL come for clean shoulder tackles next if they are "too hard". Letting refs decide outcomes too much with that
It seems that about half of the announcers are pro-targeting. Also they say the refs are kicking the players out. No, the players are kicking themselves out when they commit these hard fouls.
My family lost a definite Superbowl winner in 91 due to targeting. It was swept under the rug. Nothing was ever done about it. My auntie passed away before they ever did anything to make change. 😕
I watched three videos tonight of brutal tackles in the NFL from the 1970s .they were crushing train wrecks . I watched very closely for the lowering of their helmets and not one used their helmet. They were arm and body tackles. I played high school football then . You hit hard with your shoulder and wraped them up with your arms. There were times a hit sounded like the crack of a rifle which got the attention of the whole stadium. I don't get the concept of the helmet tackle at the head other than these cooking class majors are trying to injure the ball carrier .
Almost no-one knows the rule.
Targeting" means that a player takes aim at an opponent for purposes of attacking with forcible contact that goes beyond making a legal tackle or a legal block or playing the ball. Some indicators of targeting include but are not limited to:
a. Launch - a player leaving their feet to attack an opponent by an upward and forward thrust of the body to make forcible contact in the head or neck area.
b. A crouch followed by an upward and forward thrust to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area, even though one or both feet are still on the ground.
c. Leading with helmet, shoulder, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area.
d. Lowering the head before attacking by initiating forcible contact with the crown of the helmet.
ARTICLE 3. No player shall target and make forcible contact against an opponent with the crown of their helmet.
ARTICLE 4. No player shall target and make forcible contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless opponent with the helmet, forearm, hand, fist, elbow or shoulder. This foul requires that there be at least one indicator of targeting:
In short, helmet to helmet is not automatically targeting. And targeting can be lots of things which are not done using your helmet. And targeting can be also a hit which is not aimed to opponents head or neck area.
And that offensive players were supposed to follow the same rules.
When tackling they should keep their head up and wrap up. When I was a kid back in the sixties that's the way they taught us just in regular P.E.. I did not play organized sports it did not interest me. I did play my share of sandlot. I totally enjoyed it, but I never hit someone to hurt them. These kids think they're invincible but they are not. Some injuries last a lifetime. I blew out my knee on a motorcycle. Had surgery when I was 15. I screwed it up again about 4 years later and had my second surgery. The third time I blew out was really the worst, I stood up from a seated position on a chair. That gave me a partial tear of an MCL, two torn meniscus, so I had my third surgery. The CT scan showed a lot of scar tissue from the first two surgeries, and two bone spurs. Thank God for orthroscopic knee surgery. I had three little incision and they cleaned up everything. I walked out of recovery and got in the car. The things that people don't understand is you have surgery on a knee a couple times and the other knee is carrying the load the rest of your life. So neither knee is normal. I was told by the doctor 30 years ago to stop riding 10-speed bikes. Something I really enjoyed doing almost my entire life up to that point. The reason I shared my experience is to try and encourage people to use good technique on the field.
@@JohnRodriguesPhotographerI am 💯 positive you did not get taught that in the 60's. You quite literally know nothing about football
They know the rule. They just don't know how to control the momentum.
THAT OUTDATED RULE NEEDS TO BE ABOLISHED. THAT RULE PANDERS TO THE ELITIST SNOWFLAKES WHO WANT EVERY GAME TO BE PLAYED WITH NO INJURIES
From a rugby perspective, it's taught extremely early that head across the body and dropping the head is a sure fire way to get knocked out by a knee or contact. Football has for a long time utilised the helmet as part of tackling and that would have to be changed from the ground up. If I had the rule book, I'd ban any blind I.e any tackle where the eye level dips below the eyebrow. I'd ban diving twisting tackles for the same reason, the second you turn off from the target and can't see it the injury risk increases massively and lastly and most controversially, any launch of any kind. Gravity is a cruel mistress and if you can't blast someone without launching then that's a skill issue.
Well you mine as well change the name from Football to Rugby...
@@seanbrown7881 considering that Football is believed to be a derivative of Rugby its not unwise to take lessons from it where it helps.
The Iowa-Kentucky play was never called for targeting, only KCI.
Exactly. There was no targeting whatsoever
Yes that is true
Honestly I was waiting for the replay official to stop the game and them review it
Playing hard is one thing, intentionally trying to injure someone is completely different.
Several NFL teams give bonuses for injuring opponents.
@maekklyn Famously, Sean Payton and the Saints were given bonuses to injure players during their Super Bowl winning season
@maekklyn Look up the Bounty Bowl. It’s true.
I love how the rest of the team pats the disqualified player on the helmet like he didn't do anything wrong.
because they are all criminals
cant put your brothers down, especially when they already feel terrible about it
He didn’t do anything wrong ya fuck
@@CarbiesChronicles Who hurt you?
OP never played a sport with a team that actually cares
Number 11 absolutely targeted. He was not going for the ball.
Targeting rules have been a part of college football for almost 10 years or around 10 years. Either these kids were never taught the right way to tackle or they don't care. Football is a high velocity impact sport. It is not a case of a rule being made just to make people not enjoy playing or viewing. I've been watching football since 1969. I stopped watching football partly because of the behavior of the athletes the other reason being the deliberate attempts to hurt people on the field. The rules are there to keep them healthy and safe. If you can't play by the rules then take up knitting
But its a rule only one side of the ball has to follow...leading with the head is not a defensive only issue.
You are one of the fools that made this rule so bad. You sign up to play a high speed contact sport and then punish people for making high speed contact. Go back to bowling and leave football to the real men.
Their goal is to injure the other players . I use to do down markers for JV teams . My uncle told me for years to be come an official,they needed them. This was 25 or 30 years after I played in high school. The officials today don't throw flags and kids aren't coached to not get a penalty . The amount of dangerous play I saw from the sidelines was scarry . I said something to the line judge at a game one week and he said "why don't you become an official. I told because I'd be throwing a flag every play . He said they don't throw flags so the game goes faster (so they can get to their afternoon game on time) . I told him, many penalties are there for safety to avoid injuries . He replied, ya,I know, and that was the end of the conversation. I got clipped in the back when I was 12 in freshman football practice. MY back has been messed up ever since then. Between watching JV games and varsity games years after I graduated ,I can't recall seeing a flag thrown for clipping and it happens nearly every play but,the officials have to get to their next game. When I played games didn't last any longer than they do now because we were taught not to get a penalty and there were consequences if you did.
You sound soft
@@hubster4477in the NFL at least you can get fined as a RB/WR for lowering your head
What were the announcers talking about on # 11 1000% targeting
Announcer stupidity.
Ikr?
Coaches needed to go back to basics and get these kids to tackle properly! Wrap up at the mid-section and drive with your body! Learnt that in god damn Pop Warner twenty years ago! Christ!
What if your a 6'5 D-lineman... trying to tackle a 5'9 Running back....
Found the guy who's never run a football practice before...... ever
For real bro
Peewee
Does Ole Miss ever have any games where one or more of them doesn’t actually get ejected? Seems to be a pattern.
Ole Piss
There needs to be a revision for intended vs unintentional.
Some runners tuck and put their heads lower where the tacklers are being trained to hit.
It was explained clearly in several clips. If you lead with the crown, it'll get called, the position of the ball carrier only matters if they change body position and move their head/neck into the defenders shoulder.
@@kirbylane2016 and if you hit a defenseless player in the head with your shoulder?
Was literally called last night.
Not so clear is it champ?
@@ninefingerjackno player on the field should be defenseless. They are playing football after all.
@@notmedicmankickers
@@notmedicmanshould the defense just tackle wide receivers before they get the ball then? The whole "no defenseless player" argument is stupid
There needs to be a Targeting 1 and Targeting 2. 1 is simply more on the lines of incidental contact if making a football play or “bracing for impact” type of plays. Like the Penn state vs Purdue call is a great example. It wasn’t targeting in my book but if you call that it would be T1. He can remain in the game and treat it like an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty. Two of those and you’re out. Targeting 1 could also be dropped to an unnecessary roughness call if there is sufficient evidence to do so. Targeting 2 is intentional like trying to take a player out. The OU-Nebraska hit is a great example. Setting up to hit the player. That’s an automatic ejection and possibly suspension. Now I will add a stipulation that if both players drop their crown of the helmets to brace for impact, BOTH players are assessed a Targeting 1 Foul, or a Targeting 2 (if intentional) and Targeting 1 for the offensive player (if crown is dropped). Offensive players could be assessed a targeting 1/2 foul if blocking.
Not only did the Penn State player commit targeting it was also a late hit and unnecessary roughness. How you can defend this obvious penalty boggles the mind.
How do you determine or perceive intent? Don't answer because it's your perception. When rules are based on perception of the ref. Then more complaining will come
@@Blee48 agreed. I like the idea of a "flagrant" targeting vs an incidental one but it's just too hard to prove intent in those situations. We can typically tell when watching on TV or from highlights but in the heat of the moment, some of these guys might just be amped up with no intention to really hurt the other guy with a dirty play.
I don't think you understand the meaning of "targeting" meaning you are actively trying to make contact which results in harm. Most of these shown are not that.
@maekklyn Yeah it is that complicated because you haven't read the rule...so here it is for you
Note 1: "Targeting" means that a player takes aim at an opponent for purposes of attacking with forcible contact that goes beyond making a legal tackle or a legal block or playing the ball.
I hope you will have the 2023 College Football Targeting Ejections uploaded soon.
Offensive guys shouldn't be allowed to lower their helmets either. If it's so dangerous for defenders why isn't dangerous for the ball carrier. I don't agree with these rules. These guys have been trained to hit like this since peewee. I know something has to change but I think there are smarter ways to implement and judge these types of incidents.
We should just have segregation again. These problems would sort out.
Maybe change the helmets to memory foam
If they just remove the helmets all together, I bet that reduces the amount of head and neck injuries. Look at rugby. No, I am not joking.
@@vincentowen3669 Rugby doesn't have as many injuries because they teach a different type of tackling. It's not the lack of headgear that keeps injuries away - it's the education and training.
This is true. That was my point when I alluded to rugby. You have to tackle and hit differently when you do not have on a crash helmet.
the penn state announcer was a joke, the defender is trying to get to the ball, yeah let me drive my head into the offensive player. They should consider hitting the team with a fine.
Thinking the same thing I mean he went straight helmet to helmet
@@Z_Rodriguez13they showed the replay in slow motion and the guy instantly said “some incidental contact to the side of the head” not only that but a almost grounded completely defenseless player. Kinda a funny clip. They watch that hit and then proceed to absolutely suck off number 11 as a player and how much he means and then he gets targeting hahaha
@@Mythowars bro right like I dk who was paying them to not saying anything bad about him but it was a ridiculous play for sure, I do agree though the clip in itself is kinda funny
@@Z_Rodriguez13 He's making excuses
I assumed that remembering '11' referred to 2011, when the whole disgraceful regime collapsed!
When Ventrell Miller was about to get tossed, Fall Out Boy was there.
If you lead with your helmet thats what you deserve.i mean they teach you how to tackle starting in junior football
I remember playing pee-wee football a LONG time ago. We were always taught to hit with our shoulders. Then somewhere along the way, the helmet was used more and more to lead the tackle. I'm not a defensive football coach, but it seems to me that the head is not what you want to start your tackle with..... considering how few college football players make it to the NFL, it's a worthy cause to avoid catastrophic injuries.
Now getting to the pro level, the ridiculous increase in protection for quarterbacks.... I mean eye roll, it is a contact sport. I'm not talking about when the QB goes into the slide (or any other player), but I'm mixed. The player could slide all the way to a first down...
@@cgilleybsw reminder that when a QB goes into a slide, the distance of the slide is irrelevant, the ball is spotted where the slide begins. That is to avoid the exact thing you're suggesting.
I officiate for youth and high school football, and both coaches and officials frequently tell players to "look at what you're hitting". The prevailing teaching at that level now is to keep the head up, and wrap with the arms. some hits with the head do still occur, especially certain types of plays, but it is steadily improving. I think that we will see that effect work its way up to college, and then to the NFL over the next couple of years.
What else would you lead with?? Clearly you have never played the game and don't understand the velocity at which the game is played especially at the college level and above. You can't control exactly where your head is going to hit the other player. Most of the time when a player uses his shoulder to hit the player and it causes a big collision and a concussion the defensive player still gets a targeting penalty/ Targeting really means any big hit at this point. It has destroyed the game of football.
The Ole Miss/Texas Tech clip is used twice.
I guarantee this rule is covered over and over again in training. The coaches know the rule, the players know the rule. But they continue to do it despite all the training and warnings. Kinda makes you question their intent and integrity.
You obviously never tackled anyone and you sound soft
@@fishmonger7020someone who relies on their head to tackle someone is soft. Why target? Do you have weak arms? Do your legs not work?
@@alyssa7450 You sound like you never tackled anyone either. Keep on arm tackling
Kinda makes me question whether you have ever played a single snap of football. If you had you would no how difficult it is to make a tackle let alone have full control of where your helmet lands on the other players body.
@@fiat2496 Most of the time it's not about where the helmet hits. It's the fact that they lead with the helmet. They explain it in the video. Once you lower your head, you can't hit them from head to toe.
"Its hard to know what targeting is"
Every damn year
Never ceases to amaze how some of the idiot announcers will sit there and say “that doesn’t look like targeting to me” as replay shows it clearly is! Thank God those geniuses aren’t actually officials out on the field.
I don't care what they say before they see the slow motion replay. Defending after the replay just makes them sound insane.
IMO I think the targeting call should also be called on offense. When any player lower the head prior to contact targeting should be called. I also think that face mask should be called against offense when running with the ball and stiff arm the head. Make it fair if it is going to be called.
It is. 3 on the Longhorns last year. Only team
@@georgejohnson8674yeah and fant should’ve be called to
i have seen a lot of targeting calls that should have never been called, and have seen some that should have been call that weren't called, they need to redefined the rule.
A lot of these refs are betting on games they're assigned to. There's a reason why they call and look past stuff in each game.
Sports gambling has ruined sports.
when will they learn to NOT use the helmet as a weapon? I coached youth football and the first thing I did was teach the boys the proper way to tackle
Targeting calls are so funny... Can you imagine these refs reffing a boxing match.
It's good that college football has the targeting rule
If the players can't play without targeting then they I've got no buisness being on a team Period.
15 yard penalty, ejection & love Tennessee Volunteers Orange helmets.
I have request for you. Can you do College Football targeting ejection 2023 video please?
It will be out in May!
@@szcollective thanks!!
What day for may will be out?
It is almost out?
@@szcollectiveum it not release on may?
Do you have this for 2021
Quality content 🙌
Athletes themselves complain about concussions. These calls are protective and if people don’t like them, that’s their own problem. Kids are taught from a young age to hit wrong. Everyone wants some big flashy hit and if you have a skilled offensive player, you won’t stop them. Can’t run without your legs. Stop the legs, stop the player. Teach them right, keep them safe, watch longer, healthier careers from great players. Quit complaining about a rule change and FOLLOW THE RULE. It’s not rocket science.
For real. CTE is no laughing matter. For those that think that CTE is made up or no big thing, go look to Google and look up Brains that have CTE. You'll change your tune really quick. CTE can occur even with non-concussion causing impacts to the head.
the penn state/purdue ejection was another example of a proper application of the rule, the commentartors are fools for thinking a hit to the head can be justified in this case.
I guess the Tennison ejection was so good, they had to show it twice.
1st video, you say text book targeting. That's how they teach it at Texas. When your called for targeting & you go off the field laughing you should miss at least 5 games and then maybe you will understand.
Is a kick catch interference the same thing as pass interference?
More I see of this, the more I think Canadian football with the five yards is safer. Or not allow guys to run before the ball is kicked.
Football ain't the same when it comes to that rule
10:57 how is that targeting
Where is the fsu lsu game with targeting on Jordan Travis?
and the targeter always laughs and thinks this dirty plan in comical
Let the boys play. Targeting needs intent. Head or neck sure, but if the defender can’t adjust in time it’s bullshit.
#21 at 15:22. how the hell is he a football player? that guy has to be over 400 lbs.
I never understood this rule they taught me when i first started playing football was head on ball so I understand trying to break a habit that you been doing as a child is hard
Has there ever a call called back?
Absolutely. Plenty of times they reversed the call upon review,
Yes, that is why college football review
I've never heard the term "targeting" in the NFL. Do they refer to the same thing as something else?
They have a targeting rule, too. I personally think most of the players are just more mature and more professional -- mutually respecting other players -- so it doesn't happen as often.
The refs are probably better trained, as well, which probably helps the calls being made more accurately.
“On the previous play, there was a foul on the play… targeting… number 95 will be disqualified from the game for being a fuckin savage”
Why can the running back lower his head and lead with the crown of the helmet? When the rules first came out both offense and defense were abide by those rules.
Why does it take refs so long to decide after a review?
They're checking their Vegas bets and how much they placed on each team.
Guy launches helmet to helmet for a vicious late hit on the side of a defenseless players brain, mike pereira basically says "use common sense, thats a bad call."
Next clip, guy barely bops a guy in the chestpad, Mike Pereira says "oh yeah thats 100% targeting."
What a clown
In the Tenn. v S. Carolina kerfuffle, if the South Carolina player had lifted his head would the Tenn. player have been guilty of targeting since he would have initiated contact with the crown of his helmet?
Replay should only be available to confirm/overturn the call made on the field. Booth should not be able to initiate the review on their own
So they need to midgets on d fence so they don't accidentally hit head to head bs
Lol
The coaches are as much to blame as the player who committed the targeting. They don't appear to be doing anything to stop the players committing these offenses. To pat them on the back or head is ridiculous. They should all be kicked in the a**.
when I played, this was called spearing.
The announcers ought to shut up since they know nothing about it at all.
Do you have 2023?
All I see is legit hits, these guys are running so fast and are so big, it's impossible to stop on a dime. They're ruining college football, now they pay them a million dollars a year and you're not allowed to hit them.
They have to stop patting these guys on the head when they target
I don't care what Mike says #11 in white was never going for the ball, he went straight into the helmet then stood up & flexed never trying to get the ball. Even if he was going for the ball he still went into the head with the helmet.
What does targeting mean?
Helmet to helmet hits(direct,side or grill). AUTOMATIC DQ and 15 yard no no.
@@raidchaser443 thanks man
Helmet💥
It's missing the TXST-Southern Miss targeting call with TXST #12 Tory Spears that was nowhere even close to targeting. It's just great football being played.
After a decade of that College Football's Targeting Rules. Those refs know which players will get DQ'ed. NO GAMES!!!
Football is slowly becoming a gentleman's sport. Pretty soon, they'll have to shake hands and ASK to hit their opponent. Man...
Just admit you want gladiators back and you don't care about player safety
@@alyssa7450 That would be awesome actually
first time I seen the call against KY against Iowa and yes that should have been targeting and not happy with these other announcers calling Us buckeyes instead of Hawkeyes ugh
This is the reason why I only listen to our own announcers
Get off the field…what happened to the requirement that disqualified players must leave “the field” which by definition includes the sideline????
I believe they got rid of that rule a few years ago now they just take away the ejected players helmet
Some of these are just kinda... not targeting. You can get technical all day but some of these players are not going in to hurt others or make big hits and they barely cross the thin grey line in the motion theyre performing.
I love how the other players and coaches and staff all pat the guy on the helmet or shoulder like he did a good job, and he did nothing wrong. No wonder targeting continues to hapen.
The one thrown on Texas A&M was clean. In the first clip.
Launching motion, lowered helmet, contact with head or neck. By rule, it checks all 3 boxes for a targeting foul.
@@CybeastID I don't agree with it
@@andrewgrove1691 You can disagree and still be wrong.
What gets me is all the "buddies" that come up and pat the guy who did the targeting telling him "Hey it's ok man" and it's NOT ok. Why are they not teaching basic tackling anymore in football, rather than "Go for the guy's head and see if you can concuss them enough to get them to drop the ball"? For almost all of these plays (except for the late hits) if the guy trying to make the tackle had simply put a shoulder pad into the other guy's midsection, they could have tackled them easily and completed the play. But no, they'd rather go out there head hunting. I'm glad college is cracking down on this but the penalties need to be more severe because the guys don't get it, and neither does their coaching staff. Second targeting penalty of the season should be an automatic disqualification from all sports participation for a calendar year - start doing that and I'll wager you'll see targeting become as rare as a penguin racing a peregrine falcon in the air. No one is going to risk being sat for an entire calendar year from all sports.
Good way to wind up like Marc Buinocotte.
The hospital pass hits should be a targeting penalty on the QB
We dont need Austin Collie all over again
The Ten - S Car should have been called against offense. Defensive player wasnt even moving. Runner lowered his head and lead with crown of helmet. Some of these should have never been called or called against offense.
Defensive Player lowered his head further.
if you need to know why targeting rules exist, just listen to any Gronk interview
I swear football has become so pathetic they're making sissies out of these guys. Dick Butkus probably laughs hysterically at these new rules
Damn good rule.
Maybe instead of sending them off they should just be made to tackle without pads and a helmet like every rugby player on the planet.
The Cooper Dejean play didn’t have targeting.
The offender's team and the announcers decry the player getting kicked out of the game but do not have concern for the injured player.
The rules are the rules guys you break the rules you’re out of the game. Hey coaches stop feeding your players steroids
So, we are playing foag footvall now?
Yeah....the Penn State player was trying to get to the ball BY TAKING THE HEAD OFF OF THE PURDUE PLAYER! This was an open-and-shut case of targeting. No 11 of Penn State DESERVED to be ejected.
I have always hated targeting bc its like what is a defender supposed to do. your not supposed to lead with ur helmet but its physically impossible to do so
No, it isn’t. You can tackle without leading with your helmet. It’s called looking with your head up and wrapping up the tackle.
@@jeeptrucklover72 yes but regardless your head is always gonna make contact first is my point no matter if u try to lead with ur shoulder or not
@@alexandergudajtes2468 It is OK to hit with your helmet first. It is not OK to use the crown of the helmet. There is no rule which says you get a penalty with a helmet first hit.
this would have been a 5 star video had we not had to sit through the reviews...
Agreed, great content but abysmal editing.
I like hearing the reviews😊
PSU call on #11 was a little much... We let that ride as a targeting call and they WILL come for clean shoulder tackles next if they are "too hard". Letting refs decide outcomes too much with that
Whatever happened to, hit them low and hard? Take their legs out from under them?
We live in the new America where everyone is a bunch of pv22ies!
I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again if the ball carrier can drop his head and hit them in the helmet it’s on the ball carrier
Some QBs seem to like serving up the sewey sauce to their receivers.
-Playing football, 15 yard penalty
targeting is not playing football, its playing stupid games
Complaining about the previous penalty... 10 yard penalty
Buying Madden every year, player is ejected from the game.
Correction, playing defense... 15 yard penalty
His reparations dismissed.
A. w. h. o. l. e. Tryna break a guys neck is disgusting
6:13 looked like he was just going for the ball to me 🤷♀️
It seems that about half of the announcers are pro-targeting. Also they say the refs are kicking the players out. No, the players are kicking themselves out when they commit these hard fouls.
My family lost a definite Superbowl winner in 91 due to targeting.
It was swept under the rug.
Nothing was ever done about it.
My auntie passed away before they ever did anything to make change. 😕
The player should have raised his hand up for a fair catch! Refs are blind sided to make such idiotic calls like that!!!
Did I do that. Not me. I did nothing wrong
What ever happened to incidental contact
Could've been a 4 minute video
I watched three videos tonight of brutal tackles in the NFL from the 1970s .they were crushing train wrecks . I watched very closely for the lowering of their helmets and not one used their helmet. They were arm and body tackles. I played high school football then . You hit hard with your shoulder and wraped them up with your arms. There were times a hit sounded like the crack of a rifle which got the attention of the whole stadium. I don't get the concept of the helmet tackle at the head other than these cooking class majors are trying to injure the ball carrier .
How to ruin college football 101.
5:12 is that because you as an announcer don’t understand the rules 🤡🤡🤡
idk why players even do that, quit trying to kill or hurt them. like come on
Yeah, everyone should sit around on the field and start knitting!
@@ericpl7227or you could stop hitting high and do good form tackles instead of shortening both players careers and causing brain damage.
@@leafbreeze6640tell me you've never played football without telling me you've never played
@@rodster811tell me you have no original thoughts and repeat phrases you hear online