Hello Smookee408. It can be accomplished with just a few tools. The more tools you have the better off you'll be. Especially with same size sockets and long tool arms. Thank you for commenting.
Hello Christian. Thank you for your comment and I'm glad that people are liking these videos. In the future, I'll have a camera man so that everyone can see me work in real time instead of pausing and then completing the install. There will be more videos in the near future that go over reliability and what I think about it after driving on it. Right now I have 500 miles on it and I can't give a detailed answer on how the ride has changed. I'm gonna wait another 3 weeks, so stay tuned. And let me know if you order your suspension.
Hello Christian. I bought the suspension from Moore Racing In Las Vegas. I had to wait 1.5 months to get the suspension as items were on back order. Then my kit didn't include hardware, or the spanner wrench that the owner told me he would include. All in all, I'd take my business to All Pro Offroad or a local business that can get you a good deal. If your having a shop install your suspension, see if you can't have them order it because you might get discounts on parts and labor. URL: www.mrtmotorsports.net W
Such a great walk through and a highly relatable video for us who don't have access to a twin post lift. Thank you for taking the time to put this together.
Hello Arizonensis. Thank you for commenting, and giving positive feedback. It was difficult installing the suspension by myself and recording at the same time. But this video proves that you do not need a twin post lift, and it can be done by one person. The only draw back to working alone, is that it took about 12 hours to install (I had to learn how to do it as I was installing it). Looking back I'm glad I did it because when I need to have my suspension rebuilt, I'll be able to remove the shocks without bring it to a shop. Saves on a lot of labor; and gives you the insight of working on your own truck.
@@pentzwerks I couldn't agree more with understanding the value of knowing the mechanics of the selected suspension and how it operates within these trucks, especially if a component of it fails or gets knocked loose on the trail, a more detailed inspection can be performed. Thanks a ton for taking the time to comment back and sharing the level of detail that you did. Great work and looking forward to your future content!
Nice video man! I've seen a bunch of suspension videos and everyone just seems to say take off said part then attach said part in its place. I'm sitting here thinking I don't even know what part that is he is talking about! Great job on explaining what you are doing as you are doing it!
Hello Tactical Survival The only thing I’d change is have someone else record me so I could truly focus on the install. I’m glad it helped and I appreciate the positive feedback. This was my first time installing a suspension so I’m pleased with the results. Stay tuned for future videos.
TheMbn1972. I will always recommend doing these jobs yourself. That way when something breaks you can fix it on the trail or in your driveway. If you off road you should always do it yourself because it cost alot of money to have a "tech" do it.
Hello Jason T. Thank you Jason. It took me a few months of research and searching before buying all of the different composites of the suspension. There are so many option out there along with purposes of buying each part. I'm glad the video helped you, good luck with your build. Let me know if you have any questions for me.
Hello Jason T. Front coil over resi are located on a bracket that is sandwiched between the frame and sway bar attachment. And the rear resi will have to be drilled, and Fox includes self tapping screws.
This is pretty awesome. Getting ready DIY on my 2017 Pro and this video definitely answered a lot of my questions. Wish you’d used King so it would have been the same as my setup. Thanks for posting this. Best install instruction there. No BS stuff.
Hello Jrbtolentino. I tried to keep the words to a minimum and keep it very informational. I did not include everything I wanted to show but I think it gives a good idea on how to install your suspension. If I could do it all over again, I would have done Camburg Billet UCA and KING 2.5 with NO leaf pack. Let me know how your install goes, hopefully someone has adjusted your preload correctly and your coil overs are ready to install.
Stryker Seattle I’m planning on doing the install in a auto hobby shop will tools so I’ll be doing the pre load myself. I’m going to start with 10 turns which is 2” lift with the King. I’m planning on going with Dirt King UCA since they got a really good price on it. But out of curiosity why would you go Camburg?
Hello Jrbtolentino. You can get Dirt King Control Arms for a great deal, I almost bought them because they were on sale. I would only go with Camburg Billet, because I like the CNC machined look and quality that they offer. Some other companies are offering machine billet UCA as well. Sounds like you're off to the right start, let me know if you have any questions for me.
Hello jrbtolentino. Make sure you're careful when installing the upper control arms, I putted a wire when I put the driver side UCA in and it resulted in a $4000 new wire harness. Have someone look in the engine bay when you are putting the through bolt into the UCA. Best of luck, let me know when you have it all done and aligned.
Hello Jesse Stone. The rear suspension is easier if you are just doing the rear shock. If you're replacing the leaf packs; it becomes more time consuming.
This is such an awesome video!! Pretty well made! Thank you very much for making it!!! Question: for extended travel shocks, isn't it needed to extend the brake line?
Hello Pooroquio. I would suggest extending the brake lines or transitioning to steel break lines if you off road heavily. I did not take my truck offroading so I did not extend them. I would say it's a requirement for long travel though. Let me know if you have any other questions.
Hello Keith Chhieng. Thanks for the positive feedback, it took me about 13 hours to get this install done. Recording the steps took a bulk of the time, and learning how to do it as it was my first time installing a suspension. Pro Comp Pros are great UCA, I went with Total Chaos due to their reputation and build quality but they're expensive.
Hello Dominic Walsh. Thank you, I appreciate it. The video was intended to be a tutorial and to show that anyone can do the install. Sometime it's best to do the install yourself so you know the inner workings of the suspension.
Hello Maka. No problem, here to help. I haven't been able to find a lot of information about these custom suspensions, and now I want to make it easier for people that buy them in the future.
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Hello BatMan. Thank you for your positive feedback, it was definitely difficult installing and videoing at the same time. This video is hopefully going to help a lot of Toyota Tacoma owners install their own suspensions.
Hello Troy P. Thank you for the positive feedback. I wish I could have included more detail but it's difficult doing the install and recording at the same time. Best of luck with your build.
Hello Miguel Munoz. Thanks for the support, videos will continue to be upload this week and next week. Took a break from RUclips but now I'm ready to upload some new content.
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Hello Flathead1930. I ended up using a drywall spacial to help guide the upper control arm bolt out, it's much better than taking channel locks and bending the wheel well. Thanks for commenting and the advice. Installing this suspension is truly a two man job, it was definitely rather difficult doing it by myself and recording it at the same time.
Have you had any problems with fox’s customer service? I hear a lot of bad things about their customer service which is why I’m leaning towards getting kings but the DSC from fox seems better
Hello Anthony Vu. I've only called in twice to get measurement adjustments for preload on the front coil overs. I was able to get a tech on the phone in 5 minutes which was good. I choose fox because they are such a large brand with a spare parts warehouse. If I could do it over again, I'd go with extend travel 2.5 Kings with adjusters. Fox offers low speed and high speed, King overs one knob for compression. It's much easier to use the King suspension and it looks better.
I just bought some fox 2.5 front coil overs and I’m a little nervous about adjusted the height, I want a 2.5 inch lift since I don’t wanna max out the shock, how many threads do I need showing to get that? And if I use the tape measured method where do I begin measurement. Sorry for taking your time replying
Hello Michael. Watch my adjustment video: ruclips.net/video/g_b_5mMfOeQ/видео.html Please use a tape measure and do not count the treads. I was told this directly from fox. You'll measure from the top of the treads to the adjustment collar. I explain this is the video above. Start watching it at 3:15 or watch the whole thing for how to adjust the ride quality. As far as adjusting preload; I suggest having a suspension shop with a press adjust it for you. If it "jumps" the treads or you adjust it while on the truck you'll use a lot of force. I did this and almost ruined the adjustment collar with a punch. Let me know if you have any questions. I installed the suspension myself so I know what it's like to struggle through the install. Fox told me 1/2 of tread nets 1 inch of lift.
Can someone tell me what the difference is between Total Chaos UCAs For $799 and Rough Country UCAs for $269? I got these Fox 2.5s waiting to go in, just haven't decided on UCAs yet. Would it be ridiulous to put cheap RC UCAs on Fox 2.5s?
Are you still planning on doing a ride quality video? I’ve been looking for reviews of the Fox 2.5 DSC shocks and there’s not a whole lot out there. I’d love to see some videos and hear your opinion on them. Thanks.
Hello Michael. The following videos will be coming out in the next 2 weeks. 1. Walk-around video of the truck now that the suspension is on (aesthetics video) 2. How to adjust your DSC suspension, who would benefit most from this suspension. 3. My personal opinion of the suspension as a whole my experience so far. 4. A professional opinion of the suspension that will go over everything as a whole (video you want to see). I've only driven 1,000 miles since I installed the suspension. Had some problems after installing it which I'll go over in the future videos. This suspension is extremely nice, I'm impressed. Right now I have it set up to ride like my Porsche, and it definitely lives to the positive reviews. But I'm not sure if it's worth the really expensive price tag.
I am gonna go ahead and thank you for this video and recommend that other people Go ahead and watch this video. He does a pretty good job. And then God ahead and push like. Go ahead and prescribe. I am right in the middle of installing the upper control arms on my truck this helped thank you.
Hello Sue Taylor. Thank you for your kind words. I made this video in the hopes it would help people do their own installs rather than pay someone else to do it. It's best if the owner does the install because you'll need to maintain the UCA in the future.
@@pentzwerks Also welded on the total chaos lower cam tab gussets & steering knuckle gussets. My welder buddy never did it before and they came with HORRIBLE instructions so he welded on the lca cam tab gussets wrong so we had to grind them down to meet the frame. Then as I was assembling the LCA on the passenger frame I noticed he welded one of the tabs that keeps alignment washer in place a quarter inch to far out. So we could weld on thousand TC LCA cam tab gussets a thousand more rimes and do it perfect every time. It didn’t say in the directions where the different size cam tabs go. Now they have those one and done alignment tabs that can be installed with them too. So my idea is to open up a shop and do 4x4 & hot rod builds and rent out space for DIY mechanics to come in with their tools and work on their vehicles. Probably have to check how much insurance would cost or have them waive their rights to sue form to sign because some people would rent one just so they could get a payday from the insurance and then my premiums would skyrocket. But it would give the DIY guys an advantage to have someone with build experience there to get technical support for things like that. Because first time doing anything mistakes are going to get made!
Hello Gary. I will post a video in the next coming weeks once the weather cools down in Washington. As of right now, the truck looks great and it rides like a dream. It took me 3 weeks of tweaking to get it to where it is now. I've removed the shocks 3 times to adjust them and finally I'm happy with the result. I'll document these tweaks in the next video so you won't have trouble installing them. Sounds like you ordered the right parts, did you buy the DSC Fox suspension or just resi? Also, if you bought extend travel make sure to get upper control arms.. if you bought stock length then your stock control arms will work just fine.
Hello Gary. Perfect. This suspension is great on street and off road, and the non DSC Fox shocks are much cheaper than the high performance. Your ride quality will be 5/5 and you won't have to deal with installing upper control arms which is really nice. Removing the upper control arm are very difficult as you can tell from the video and you don't need to bend anything. Good luck with your install, the next video will show much more of how it looks and my opinion on the suspension.
Hello Gary. Sounds like your in good hands and I'm glad you found a shop to do the install. It's time consuming and if I could do it all over again, I would have done more research on the initial set up (aka preload and how much lift I wanted) then had a shop do the install. It was a fun experience, but sometimes it worth having a tech do it for you. If you do not want pay a lot for UCA, go with dirt king or camburg UCA. Total Chaos are nice but there are definitely more affordable UCA out there.
Hello Jon T.V Get the alignment done after everything is install. Make sure you’re happy with your preload / ride height and everything is torque down properly. Let me know if you have any other questions.
@@pentzwerks Do you have or know where to get the torque specs for doing this? I was going to pay someone to do this but I feel confident I can do this after watching this video. Just need the torque numbers. Thanks.
Hello @@mr.k9935 Yes I have the torque specs. Give me 24 hours to attach those to this comment. I would suggest asking your local Toyota dealership for the specs. Make sure you take your time will installing it and make sure you are carefully when becoming the through bolt of the UCA. I pulled an wire when I pulled the bolt through and cost me $1000 to replaces the harness. Have a friend help guide the bolt out, it was very difficult doing the install and recording it at the same time.
Good walk through for the C/O and UCA install! Just wondering what you did for your passenger side UCA through bolt. I am having issues trying to clear the metal since it seems gusseted. Also, for my driver side, I fed the through bolt backwards so I don't have to re-bend the metal again. Other than that, informative video!
Hello Timo Casa. Be extremely careful about putting in the upper control arm backwards, if the nut is not properly torqued down than the bolt can come out completely. I used a flat head screw driver / drywall spatula to wedge between the frame and the bolt and tapped it out with a pin and hammer till it came loose. The passenger side is more difficult as it's more camped due to the air filter. Thank you for commenting, let me know if you have any other questions. Be careful with putting the bolt backward, but companies like ICON tell you to put it in backwards for future maintenance. It'll also help to have someone help you, one person should be in the wheel well and someone should be looking through the top of the engine bay.
@@pentzwerks That is a good point! If the nut is properly torqued (or re-torqued after at least 100 miles) the chances of the through bolt falling is unlikely. Of course, that, paired with a supplied nyloc nut, loctite, and visual inspection of hardware, will increase the security of that through bolt. Anyways, your video definitely helped out as I installed my UCA!
Hello @@timcasallo1373. Excellent, I'm pleased to see that you know to re-torque after 100 miles. This suspension will need constant checking after every off-road usage, it's good practice to check everything after a trip off the payment. Good luck with your build, let me know what you think about the suspension after you've used it for awhile.
Great video! My question is how did you like the Revtek kit that you had before? I had that Revtek kit on my old Tacoma and I put almost 100k miles on it with no issues! My second question is did you lose some ride height going from the Revtek spacer to the Fox coil-overs? My pavement princess is about to get a lift and I’m really leaning towards just getting another Revtek kit! I’ve also been leaning towards the Fox stage 2 extended coil over kit. I know I’m not hard on my truck and all I want is for it to look better- taller, so I’d hate to spend the money on the Fox kit if I’d be perfectly happy w another Revtek kit. Thanks man!
Hello H Mac. I would definitely suggest going with a leveling kit if you're going to stay on the road. They're the most reliable option out of all the ways to lift your truck. The reason why I lost ride height is because the Fox suspension was designed for ride quality and not ride height, a leveling kit is the opposite with ride height as it's first goal. If I could do it all over again I would have kept my leveling kit as the Fox suspension was so much money and it had to be constantly adjusted. Leveling kits are definitely less maintenance. If you have any other questions, let me know. I know this was a short response, and I can provided a more detailed comparison. The answer will be the same though, go with the leveling kit.
Stryker of Seattle Man I figured you’d say that! So I found a video that CustomWheelOffsets put out, and it’s about stacking lifts. I know- don’t do it. But let me run this by you. I’m now looking at the 4” BDS drop bracket lift. I don’t really want to go to 6”.. Anyway, I’m thinking about NOT using the 4” top spacer that they include, and buying Fox coilovers for 2” of lift and then putting a 2” spacer on that, which will give me the same geometry as the 4” spacer but will give me the Fox ride quality. And since the drop bracket will realign the drive angles, the shocks will be safe from damage because the LCA will still hit the bump stop like the truck was at stock height!! Thoughts??
Hello H Mac. I would not recommend stacking your lifts. This is dangerous as the spacer would be between the coil bucket that only has a 1 inch lip to make sure the coil over head does not move. By putting a spacer you're moving the coil over head lower where it could loosen and maybe fall out of place due to the bolts breaking. I would highly recommend not doing this. Also, I would not suggest doing anything over a 2 inch spacer. Anything taller in height will have more of a risk of breaking over time. My thoughts are siding with not stacking and choosing one or the other.
Hello @@TheRollCajun My advice is to take your time; make SURE you have all the tools and someone to help you. Be patience when installing the suspension; and make sure everything is torqued to spec. I had troubles with the UCA through bolt and sway bar relocation bracket. Make sure you only use the hardware provided and red lock tight. Best of luck.
Hello @@TheRollCajun Blue is preferred as you can re-locktight if you retorque the bolts down or red lock tight is you do not plan on retorque the bolts. It's up to you. Just make sure they are torqued to spec.
Had a question about installing the remove reservoirs. Where did you loop the mounting clips through on the frame? It’s a little hard to tell from the video. I have a 5th gen 4runner so I’m wondering if i could do it similarly instead of welding a bracket onto the frame. Thank you!
Hello Christopher Alexander. For the Toyota Tacoma and 4Runner, the remote reservoirs are mounted between the frame and the sway mount brackets. In my Fox kit, they included 2 spacer brackets that moved the sway forward so you can put the mounts between the body and the mount. Once you have that installed you'll use the supplied wire / clamps to put through the mount brackets then around the reservoirs themselves. Let me know if you have any other questions.
The Pentz Project thanks a lot for the super quick response! I’ll be installing Kings with the remote reservoirs but they don’t come with bolt on brackets. I ended up ordering some from Dirt King and hopefully those will work. I plan to remove the sway bar to install a long travel kit with the Kings. Great video by the way....the best I’ve seen. Keep it up!
Hello @@christopheralexander5121 I would contact the shop you bought them from as they should of come with mounting brackets. I'm glad you ended up purchasing from Dirt King, best of luck with your build. And the long travel will be really nice to have but it requires a lot of tune up if you use it heavily.
Question: I’m about to get 33s and ICON suspension installed on my Tacoma you think I would need a diff drop/spacers to keep the drive-line and CV angle closer to stock? I would hate to stress those components....what’s your thoughts🤔
Hello David. I went with a spacer kit for the drive shaft to prevent anything from being stressed. The kit cost $12 and it takes 30 minutes to install. I installed it out of precaution but I think it’s a good idea to put a kit on.
Hello Gilbert. Replacing the Front Coil Overs, Rear Shock, Upper Control Arms and Leaf Pack does not void the warranty. I only discuss the warranty as a warranty on the aftermarket parts, if you install these parts yourself you might need to tinker with the set up. If you have the dealer install these parts, you can hold them responsible for any mistakes with installation, initial set up and future problems (obviously they will not cover abuse). Let me know if you have any other questions.
Hello Chris Trujilo. There are so many options now for Tubular UCA's, Icon is a great brand and Total Chaos is an excellent brand as well. You can go with either, save money and go with the ICON's.
I love your vids, thanks for the post. Keep them coming. How much did this whole setup cost by the way? I’m lookin forward to the same setup on my Taco pro.
Hello Sarn. Here is a price break down: Total Chaos Upper Control Arm (96504) - $675.00 Fox Factory Series Shocks Front (880-06-418) - $1,490.00 Fox Factory Series Shocks Rear (883-26-007) - $990.00 OME Suspension System (EL095R) - $105.00 OME Suspension Systems Leaf Pack (EL095R) - $420.00 These are the best prices I could find. The prices might be different depending on who you order through, I'd suggest the person I bought them through but they forgot hardware in my kit, and delayed shipping due to back orders. All in all, I got a great deal at $3,680 because I saved on sales tax and got free shipping. Let me know if you have any question. Plus you can sell your Pro suspension after you install this and get $1500 for your shocks, upper control arms, and leaf pack. Let me know how it goes.
Hello Sarn. Not a problem, when I was researching this suspension and other suspension companies there was no information about them that was helpful. Now that I've bought my suspension and installed it myself, I know a lot more about it. Just trying to help others.
Hey Stryker, do you have videos of when you installed your Dakar AAL? If so please send a link. Also, can you help me out on choosing the Dakar AAL. I’m running a RCI bedrack which is probably around close to 100lbs, a Tepui XL Ruggadized rooftop tent 200-250 lbs; Rotopax fuel can and maxtrax. Total weight estimation is probably around 300-350 lbs not including camping gears when out camping. I have about 2-2 1/2 inch droop in the rear cause of the weights I carry. Should I go with the Dakar AAL ELO95R or should I go with ELO96R? Do you know if both Dakar models use the same bushings? And do I need one pack of the bushings or do I need 2 packs?
Hello Sarn. I would definitely suggest the EL095R Dakar Leaf Pack because of how much you care in your bed while camping. I replaced the stock leaf pack because my jet ski is 250 lbs and I did not want the rear to sage. I do not know of the EL096R (most likely it's the 3rd generation specific leaf pack) the EL095R fit perfectly on my truck. Now I feel comfortable putting loads in the back of my truck and transporting heavy objects. Look in the description for the parts list and URL to the parts. Let me know if you have any other questions.
Hello Drumtwo4seven. I did not take before and after pictures as it's a video, or do a walk around as this is solely a installation video and not a comparison video. If you want to see the before a after you can look at two of my previous videos: Video for Stock Suspension with Leveling Kit go to 1:02 in the video. ruclips.net/video/TS_NN92_bTg/видео.html Video for Fox Suspension Walk Around go to 11:50 in the video. ruclips.net/video/fPvueoYfVrQ/видео.html
Hello Mcnasty3303. Reasons I purchased the TRD Offroad over the Pro in 2017 1. Sunroof, TRD Pro did come with one in 2017 2. TRD off road is cheaper than the Pro 3. Did not want to pay for an over priced suspension that I would replace anyways 4. I did not want leather seats, leather seats fade and wear with seat heats 5. I wanted to buy my own truck and not just drive a TRD Pro stock 6. I think Pro's are cool but they're over rated 7. It's impossible to find a Pro at a good deal 8. I wanted a manual and not an automatic, it's extremely hard to find a Pro in a manual The only reasons I would have bought a Pro is so that when I off road it hard then the dealer would replace everything. Since I have my fox suspension on it they point to the suspension if I have "any problems" even if it's not the suspension that caused it. All and all, if I could go back I probably would have bought a Pro so that everything would be warrantied. I had to pay $5300 in damages to my truck after installing the suspension due to improper installation (coil over pre load adjustment caused the sway bar to become disconnected, and wire harness got pulled when installing the upper control arms). All these problems were self inflicted by me, and only because I did not have someone helping me with the install.
Hello Mcnasty3303. I'll be selling my Tacoma this spring to upgrade to another Tacoma or Ford Raptor. Let me know what you end up choosing, good luck finding a pro. I would wait till Christmas time to buy your Tacoma so you can save during Black Friday Sales (you'll be able to get a discount on Off road models).
Hello Mcnasty3303. If you can find a TRD Pro Manual in the color you want, I'd get it. It's just a matter of price and how much you're willing to pay. Many dealers put a mark up on them and there's a waiting list. Good luck, definitely let me know if you find a manual try pro and what state you get it in.
Hello Jesse Stone. I did not make a video of the rear shocks install. It was too difficult for me to record; move the leaf packs around and do the overall install.
@@pentzwerks Thank you! I really appreciate the quick reply. I just installed my Deaver Leaf Springs today. Now I feel much more confident about doing the rear shocks next! Thank you for the very helpful video of your front suspension install. I plan to do that sometime next year 2021. Your videos are very helpful and clear. Thank you 100!
Good Evening. Just wondering what does it mean to let the suspension settle with these coilovers? Do we need to drive with them for a bit and then make adjustments to the ride height? Thank you!! Awesome video!
Hello Fernando. Are your coil overs already installed on the truck? If so, then you can adjust them on the truck with WD40 and a spanner wrench. Or you will have to remove them to adjust preload. If you're happy with the ride height, then there is no need to adjust. I want a full 3 inches of lift as I'm rubbing on the drivers side, so I want to lift the front up another inch. Let me know if you have any questions, I'll be making more videos on how to adjust these suspensions.
Hello Fernando. Currently my suspension is set to 5 clicks on the blue knock from the negative side, and having the gold knob all the water tightened. The truck rides really nice now but I will continue to tweak it for the next coming weeks. What are your current settings on your DSC suspension.
Stryker of Seattle I have all the clickers open up to the left. It rides beautiful. For the first 1000 miles the coils are still adjusting. Make sure to tighten the bolts after 500 miles or soo.
Hello Fernando. I tighten everything after 500 miles and then 1000 miles. My sway bar unbolted itself from the spindle and caused $1300 damage as it ripped the abs speed censor and destroyed the CV boot. This lead to my whole front axle being replaced at the dealer. Make sure to use RED Lock Tight on the sway linkage as the factory does this before the truck leaves the assembly line. This was a very costly mistake I made.
Hey Stryker, going to put 33's on my 17 tacoma as well here in the next few weeks and been looking at this setup. Saw a reply that you made about the suspension damaging the truck and was just curious as too the cause and problems that arose from it etc. I saw that you have since ditched the setup and was wondering what you run now to accommodate for the tires?
Hello PD_55. I'm going to make a video about these problems this week to further explain what had happened and how it can be fixed. Engine Harness Replacement $3995.00 The through bolt for the upper control arm pulled on the engine harness wire that controls the airbag system. Dealer told me that the whole engine harness had to be replaced due to liability and reported it to Carfax. I had them replace the engine harness for liability reasons, the connect simply was pulled out of the plug and they didn't want to put the wire back into place. A fix to this solution is too be extreme careful when putting in the upper control arms or have a shop do it so they accept liability. Front Axle Replacement $1400.00 The fox coil over require you to put a sway bar spacer kit in. The factory front coilers from Toyota correct for Tacoma lean, aftermarket shocks do not. Due to the high difference of 3/4 of an inch. The sway bar come loose from the spindle and ripped the speed sensor and ripped open the CV boot. Due to the fact the boot had to be replace, and all of the gease from the passenger side went to the drivers side I had the dealer replace the whole front axle. Both mistakes could of be corrected for and you can learn from my mistakes. Again, I'll go into detail about these problems in the next video. Let me know if this gave you a good idea about what I experience, be on the look out for the next video.
Hello @@XxKillacalikid209xX. Thank you for subscribing, I'm trying to get a much information as I can to other Tacoma owners. People can avoid doing research then and get the suspension they want.
Your videos are awesome and very informative. I’ve got a 2017 DCSB OR and I’m actually waiting to see how your review is. I’m currently torn between Kings and Fox Level 3 like you have. Great great videos. Killing it man can’t wait to see the next ones. Do you have a Instagram by Chance ?
Hello J. Munster. Thank you for the positive feedback, I'm trying to help people research different products and find what suits them. Fox is a great company and has a wide range of products, and King is also a really good company. If I could do it again, I'd get Kings only for the color. Both are great brands, I'd shop around for price and see if you can't get shocks at a discount then go with that brand. No Instagram at this point, just youtube. If I start a Instagram I'll comment on this and let you know. Let me know if you have any other questions.
Why didn’t you choose the icon stage 3 or stage 4 and you could have got all the stuff you got in that same kit cheaper I have a 2019 trd off-road I don’t want to go real high so what how high to not really put stress on everything and I know a diff drop may need installed also
Hello @@edgerat and James Howard. Yes Icon's are degressive which means they are stiffer on the road then looser off road. Fox and King shocks are the opposite offering more forgiveness at low speeds then tightening at higher speeds. In addition to that, the Fox DSC suspension allows you to customize your ride quality by adjusting the low speed and high speed adjusters.
@@pentzwerks which is what I said.... If you buy your non-adjustable coilovers from a reputable company they will be bang on tuned out of the box. Like Downsouth Motorsports for example.
Hello Isaac Jarrett Yes buying already tuned shocks is a good idea if you do not want to mess around with adjusting the high speed and low speed compression. This would mean that you knew what you wanted as far as comfort and off road performance. If you have the DSC shocks you are able to tune your suspension on the fly when you exit the trail and you want a stiffer suspension for freeway driving. It’s honestly up to personal preference and how much money you want to spend.
Will changing my uca’s fix my rubbing issue? I have 2016 Tacoma with 3in lift and I have 285 75 16’s. I never rub while driving but it rubs a little when I reverse with the wheel turned all the way. It’s not bad but I’m paranoid about fixing the issue lol. Thanks!
Hello Sterling Silver. It's always a good idea to change your UCA to an aftermarket UCA after lifting your truck; due to the increased distance the coil over will travel. By install new aftermarket UCA you can increase the camber of the alignment therefore pushing the wheel forward or backward. My suggestion to you is to get a CMC (Cab Mount Chop) and remove the wheel well mud flaps. What is the offset of your wheels?
Hello Donard Ebana You are referring to the misalignment spacers that located on the lower part of the coil over. When installing the coil over, make sure the long spacer faces forwards together the front of the truck and the short spacer faces the rear.
Hello Maka. My truck is a 2017 Toyota Tacoma TRD Offroad 4x4 In A 6-Speed Manual Transmission. I would suggest a leveling kit if you're going to keep your 2 wheel drive truck on the pavement only. It's 1/6 of a cost of the suspension that I put on my truck, and it's all you need if your not taking your truck off roading. Here's a video (shows my leveling kit & part numbers are in the description): ruclips.net/video/yDyfS4v5hdY/видео.html
I just installed these shocks and a spring compressor does more damage than good. I got a 5/16 punch and adjusted it while on the truck lifted off the ground with the wheel off. Used PB blast and a lot of muscle. please note: make sure the punch is all the way in the hole. Used a 22mm wrench to turn the punch using it as a breaker bar.
Hello Darwin Valiente. With the manual transmission with a 3 inch lift with 285, my indicated MPG is around 18-19mpg. When you take into factor the tire size difference it's probably 20 mpg average. The manual transmission are geared differently than the automatic. I'd say prepare for a 2-3 mpg decrease once installing the lift and tires.
Hello Jose Luis Rojas Check out my Wheels, Tires and Lift Video. Parts and Links are in the description of the video. ruclips.net/video/yDyfS4v5hdY/видео.html
Please update on thread count on the front shocks once you hit 2.75". Been thinking about this kit and wondering if it actually hits that mark. Thanks for the vid.
Hello Thomas Carvalho. After contact Fox Racing Company, they suggested that I use a tape measure instead of counting the treads. You measure from the top of the coiler to the beginning of the tread count. On my truck I set the measurement of treads showing to 1.75 inches, this has netted to 2.25 of lift over stock. Remember, the 3rd generation tacoma came with 1 inch of lift already from the factory. After measuring the treads, I also added a 1/4 spacer to the top of the coiler on the drivers side to cope with tacoma lean (Driver & Gas Tank on Driver Side causes a 1/2 difference in height). Let me know if you have any questions. I'll count the treads but I highly suggest getting a tape measure and just measuring it as it's more reliable and what the Fox tech told me. Make it simply, just measure.
Hello T A. Lift the truck on two jack stands on both sides and then use the floor jacket under the rear axle. When you start removing stuff, do the passenger side then the drivers side. Have a friend help you, the bolts that bolt the leaf pack to the truck have red lock tight on them so it will take some force. 1. Lift the truck with two jacket stands located behind the rear door. 2. Move the floor jack under the rear axles so you can control it and release tension on the leaf packs 3. Remove wheels and tires, make sure you put them out of the way 3. Remove the rear shocks 4. Remove the Bolts 5. Verify that you have control of the axle 6. Lower the axle down to release flex from the pack 7. Remove leaf pack (both sides at the same time) 8. Insert the ALL 9. Place leaf pack back in (leave the axle close to the ground) 10. Attach U bolts on both sides 11. Reattach the new rear shocks. 12. Jack Up rear axle 13. Tight all bolts down using (blue lock tight) do not use red 14. Recheck everything 15. Put tires back on 16. Drive for 100 miles and retorque I hope this answers your questions, I installed everything by myself and it was difficult. My Dakar leaf packs are 75lbs a piece. Take a slow and follow the instructions above. Let me know if you have any other questions.
Hello Shade Ss. This deserves a very long response and review but I only have time for a short review of the suspension. Positives: 1. Highly customizable right quality 2. Unbeatable off-road performance 3. Suspension looks bad ass 4. You can firm up the suspension on the highway and loosen it on the off road roads Cons: 1. It's so expensive for what it is, expect to pay around $5300 for this set up 2. Do you off road enough to justify that price 3. Maintenance can be costly (rebuilding shocks) 4. It cost $1000 to install if you have a dealership or off road shop do it. The only con is the price and how much you'll use it. It's hard to sell trucks with these suspension on them because people assume that they were abused off road. Keep your old suspension so you can go back to stock if you sell the truck. It drives smooth off road and on road. Remember you can customize the ride quality by putting the knobs in different settings. Let me know if you have any other questions. I'll make a video in the future about this suspension but I sold it 3 months after installing it due to damage it caused my truck.
Hello Kevin Naira. I ended up using a dry wall applicator; similar to a puddy knife to help guide the bolt around the frame. The passenger side is much for difficult, basically you need to put the puddle knife between the frame and bolt to help guide it out after tapping on it from below. I would recommend having two people help you; one to watch the bolt as it comes out and the other to slowly tap it out. Let me know if you have any other questions. Here's a link to what I used: www.grainger.com/product/24Z418?cm_mmc=PPC:+Google+PLA&ef_id=Cj0KCQjwrrXtBRCKARIsAMbU6bGBBcAUabNINP2w3SP6aDhTh5Q-Bxim4jDpgKUzsxCx3Vre7RY6WosaAi27EALw_wcB:G:s&s_kwcid=AL!2966!3!264955915862!!!g!461779184394!&gclid=Cj0KCQjwrrXtBRCKARIsAMbU6bGBBcAUabNINP2w3SP6aDhTh5Q-Bxim4jDpgKUzsxCx3Vre7RY6WosaAi27EALw_wcB
Striker i am purchasing a 2019 Tacoma TRD sport 4X4 in April 2019, I will not go off roading, 99% road and maybe 1% light dirt road, I want to add 33inch tires and level the truck, do you recommend a lift kit? I f so what is the best kit, and if you recommend replacing coil over and shocks what do you recommend, thanks for the great videos.
Hello Eddie Sanin. First off, congratulation on buying your new Tacoma. As for your suspension question, lets narrow down that question and find you what you're looking for. The leveling kit is the most reliable of lifts you can do with the truck, and the dealership won't give you grief over them. Since I installed my Fox suspension, I've had to pay $5,500 in damages due to a engine hardness issue caused by the upper control arms and a front axle due to the sway bar coming loose. I've removed my fox suspension and went back to my leveling kit as it's more reliable. What is your budget for this lift? Do you want to replace the upper control arms? Do you want a comfortable ride, does ride quality matter? What brand of suspension do you like (fox, icon, king, arb, bilstein)? If your'e only looking to replace the shocks and coil overs in the front I'd suggest a toytec lift in the front and maybe leave the rear stock? Do you load your truck bed with stuff, is so you might want to replace the rear stocks. Answers the questions and I can help point you in the right direction. My thoughts would be to stick with the leveling kit if you're not doing any off roading and log roads are maintained so you do not need a beef suspension to handle them. If I could go back, I would have help my truck with the leveling kit instead of buying a $4000 suspension and paying $5500 in damages to replace parts that were broken by the suspension.
@@pentzwerks Really? I have a 2016 Tacoma TRD Sports and have been thinking about the Fox 2.5 Coilovers. My truck is ready for a new sets of tires and thinking about installing the TRD rims with 285/70R17 tires. So the best way to go is the leveling kit with 1.25 spacer maybe?
Hello@@csreyesccm. The fox 2.5 coil over and rear shocks are a great suspension, and the DSC model is even better when it comes to adjustment. I've had both a leveling kit and the fox suspension, and if you're only lifting your truck to drive on the street then get the leveling kit. If you off road every weekend and want a really nice ride on the road and off road, go with the fox suspension. If you want to stay compliant with your Toyota warranty install the RevTek leveling kit. If anything goes wrong with your tacoma after you've installed it, most dealerships will use it as a scapegoat to every problem you experience. The 285 tires will fit with both suspension set ups, if you end up buying the fox suspension have someone install it so they accept liability if anything goes wrong. If I could go back I would have stayed with the leveling kit, and saved $4000 for the suspension and the $5000 in damages it caused (engine harness and sway bar linkage). Let me know if I answered your question. It all depends on what you use your truck for and whether or not it justifies having an expensive, high performance suspension. If you go with the fox suspension, a lot of people will approach you with questions about the suspension. The 2.5 coil overs are as large in diameter as the stock ford raptor suspension.
@@pentzwerks That definitely solidify my choices. No plan of going off roading. Just for show. RevTek leveling kit is the best one out there and will I possibly need 1.25 wheel spacer?
Hello @@csreyesccm. The leveling kit is the best options for you, you DO NOT need 1.25 wheel spacers. I rubbed with the wheel spacers, with the leveling kit there is no rubbing. Toyota even warranties the RevTek leveling kit, and you do not have to deal with Tacoma Lean you are putting the spacers above the factory suspension. Watch my leveling kit suspension, wheels and tires video. It explains the leveling kit set up. ruclips.net/video/yDyfS4v5hdY/видео.html
Hello Jeff. If you're looking to get a lift in the near future, I'd suggest taking advantage of all the "Black Friday" sales and holiday sales so that you can save money. Wait 2 months, and everything will be an average of 20% cheaper.
Hello Peter Danglabiga. I didn't record the rear installation as my camera had dead and it was very difficult to record while installing the rear. I suggest having friend help you with the rear leaf packs as they're about 70-90 a piece.
Hello Ar Ar. I had 2 major problems with the lift after it was installed. Issue 1: Cost $4000 to fix (wire harness due to upper control arm installation. Issue 2: CV boot damage due to the sway bar coming loss while daily driving it. I would suggest going with ICON or King before Fox; it rode a lot better than stock. If you do not off road a lot just go with a leveling kit which is 1/5 of the cost with the same look.
@@pentzwerks why do you say king or icon would be better than fox? Was looking into a similar set up, but maybe going with the delta joint icon UCAs. Thanks.
Hello @@goofball549 King's and Fox's suspension are progressive so they stiffen up as you go fast over bumps. Icons are degressive so they are stiffer then loosen up. I do not recommend Fox due to my experience only, they are a great product but did not serve me well. I do like the Delta Joint Icons, try and get UCA that have a concealed ball joint (makes for as easier clean).
Hello Joshua Behzad. Focus on the blue knob if you want a soft / stiffer ride. If you move the blue knob to the + side, you'll get a softer ride, if you move it to the - side then you'll get a stiffer ride. Try that out and see if it works, this suspension is tricky to adjust when you do not know how. It took me 2 months to figure it out and I feel as if I still do not know how to adjust it fully.
Hello JKD0629. Kings and Fox are very similar (both progressive), but they use different ways of offering the same performance. The reasons I choose Fox over King are: 1. Rebuild-ability - I can send them into the Fox Factory to be rebuild within a few weeks 2. Aesthetics - I do not like the shinny blue color, and I prefer the black and anodized aluminum 3. Spare Parts - If I need something the Fox Factory will have it in stock 4. Public Image - Fox is on everything (mountain bikes, razors, off road trucks and car) 5. Longevity - Fox has been around a long time, sometimes these off road companies disappear (I'm not saying King will, but it's a possibility) There will be people that side with either Fox or King, both are great companies. If I could do it again, I would go with King's because of the way they mount on the truck. If you're going to buy a high performance suspension, you might as well show it off. Here is a professional review of Fox vs Kings by Accutune Offroad: accutuneoffroad.com/articles/fox-vs-king-2-0-coilover-shock-comparison/ Here is another break down of the comparison between Fox and Kings: www.offroad-engineering.com/foxvsking.html FJ Cruiser Forum: www.fjcruiserforums.com/forums/suspension-steering-tech/150996-fox-2-5-vs-king-2-5-a.html Let me know if you have any other questions.
The Accutune review is all you need to know. Fox is built with superior materials. Turn around time is minimal during non race season. Matches your sled/mtb/rzr setup.
Hello T A Yes Fox includes the sway bar drop bracket in the front coilover kits. Only thing you have to buy is blue lock tight so that the bolts stay in place, as there's a lot of vibration as you drive down the road and offroad
Hello Minneso Taco. Yes I got a wheel alignment done after I had leveled truck and go the coil overs to the height I wanted. I suggest getting a wheel alignment done whenever replacing or large adjusting the suspension. Most Toyota dealership will give you a free alignment if your truck under warranty.
Hello Edaurdo Lopez. There is no need to install the diff drop kit unless you are hearing a rotating noise after lifting your truck. I install this kit as a preventative measure so that I would not have a problem later on.
Hello @@eddylopez2737 . I would wait until your lift is installed. Install the lift and wheel alignment, then install the bracket is the truck starts making a rotation sound.
Hello Jason. When recording this video, I had left my Torque Wrench at my house. After finishing the install, I torque everything down to factory spec once returning back to the truck a day later. I'll be uploading a PDF that states all the torques for all parts of the front suspension and rear. Let me know if you have any other questions, thank you for pointing that out.
Hello Michael. The ride quality is similar to stock, and I'm still learning how to adjust the DSC (low speed and high speed) to dial in my suspension. In the next few days, I'll be removing the front coil overs to adjust ride height. I want a full 2.75 inches of lift as the suspension settled at 1.75 inches of lift (some rubbing) but there will not be any rubbing once I'm at 2.75 inches. Offroad ride quality will be a significant difference but I'll be going into detail in a future video. All and all, the suspension is very expensive and the ride quality is good. Let me know if you have any questions.
Stryker of Seattle how do we know when the suspension will settle? I got these on mine about three weeks ago and wondering if I need to do any adjustments? Thank you and great video
Hello Fernando. Suspension settling means that the springs in the coilers in the front have a chance to compress under the vehicle weight. For example, if you install a new coiler and have the preload set to 2.9 inches. It will settle to 2.75 after the truck weight is put on the coilovers. When getting your suspension to settle it is advised to roll it back and fourth, or drive it a mile or two. You will only need to do adjusting if you want more or less lift height. In the next two weeks, I'll be taking my front suspension off and readjusting the pre load so that I get 3 inches of lift.
Hello Micheal O & Fernando Badillo. The ride quality is excellent, completely customizable and it rides like a dream. I'll go over this in detail in the next video I upload, but I wanted to let you guys know where I stand now. Let me know if you have any other questions for me.
Hello Patrick Smith. Top of Coilover - 64 Bottom of Coilover - 83 Sway Bar Link to Frame - 50 Sway Bar to Spindle - 83 Wheel Bolts - 86 All are in foot pounds, let me know if you have any other questions.
Hello Wayne Wang. From the factory the rear sits about 1 inch so when you put the Dakar leaf pack in, it sits about 3 inches high in the rear. You should have no problems with the rear shocks being shorter if you do not fully flex your suspension in the rear, you should be fine. All and all, you will not have a problem. The rear shocks I installed were made for the Tundra so they have 13 inches of travel and not 12 inches, but 12 inches should be fine.
Hello M Blake Jr. The ride quality is good, but not good enough to justify the price I paid for the suspension. I'll be going over this in a future video. In short, I'm happy with the suspension but while installing it the engine harness got damaged from installing the upper control arms ($4900) and the sway bar came loss and ripped the ABS line ($1300). All this was because of details I'll share in a future video. Suspension ride nice but it's more for off road capability than ride comfort. If I could do it again I would have stayed with my level kit. That would have saved me $3600 in parts and $5200 in damage to my vehicle. This is the cliff notes of what happened but I'll explain in more detail in the video.
Hello M Blake Jr. The wire was not damaged at all, it simple became loss in the air bag sensor harness located on the front drivers side. One wire was still held by the harness and the other ways loss. I brought the truck in because it had a check engine warning, then they found the wire and reported it to carfax. Since they reported it to carfax I had to replace it because of liability (if you know something doesn't work correct and do not replace it, you can be held responsible). 1. Dealer forced me into replacing the harness because they reported it to Carfax. They did not want to plug it back in because of liability. They did not want me to plug it in either and I could of fixed it myself if I would have known. 2. Liability $4900 is for a new harness is cheaper than getting sued because you didn't fix the airbag system 2. Cost: The airbag system is tied into the engine harness which is the longest and most complex engine harness. All and all, very expensive experience. I will have the dealer install everything from now on.
Hello Mustanglx. I checked out your videos and I like the read skid plate, did you just paint the factory skid plate? Nice sports edition, looks like it can handle being off road just fine. Thanks for the commenting, let me know if you have any questions.
It’s a oem part from the trd pro.my friend that did the paint job on my mustang painted the skid plate ..thanks for the replying.. it handles good 4x4 specially with the warm winch ! :)
Hello PhilSiri. Upgrading to the Fox 2.5 DSC Suspension is a $3500 investment, and that does not include labor. If you install it yourself you still need to have the tools, which will cost around $200 alone. The suspension ride of the REVTEK is similar to stock, the Fox Suspension feels more stiff if you do not weight the truck down with rock sliders, front bumper, rear bumper or canopy. If you are going to upgrade your suspension, I would suggest leaving the stock leaf pack alone. Ride quality improved as I can tune it to whatever driving I was doing on and off road. I would only upgrade if you're committed to owning your truck for a long time. I sold mine for a $200 loose which is extremely rare, I kept everything in pristine condition. You can always do Fox 2.5 coil overs without Resi, and Fox 2.0 in the rear and it'll cost less than half the amount I paid. This way you'll leave your UCA and leaf pack alone saving you money in labor and time. Let me know if you have any questions, I did not see a significant difference on road but a dramatic difference off road. It absorbed a lot of dips and bumps off road which made driving trails a breeze.
@@pentzwerks Hey thanks for the reply! Yes I'm looking at just the Fox 2.5 non resi, and can do the work myself. I already have a 2" add a leaf in the rear with TSB leaf pack. I bought my truck with the revtek already instealled, but the damper recently has started leaking and I wanted to upgrade to something better. I do drive a significant amount of miles on the road and want to make sure the fox set up is not uncomfortably stiff. I plan to do a UCA regardless but am stuck deciding the fox coilover or an bilstein 5100 with OME lift springs to match my rear lift
Thanks for the video. Seeing how you did it with basic hand tools gives me greater confidence.
Hello Smookee408.
It can be accomplished with just a few tools. The more tools you have the better off you'll be. Especially with same size sockets and long tool arms. Thank you for commenting.
Great video! Very informative and easy to follow. IMO best suspension installation video I’ve ever seen on RUclips.
Hello Christian.
Thank you for your comment and I'm glad that people are liking these videos. In the future, I'll have a camera man so that everyone can see me work in real time instead of pausing and then completing the install. There will be more videos in the near future that go over reliability and what I think about it after driving on it. Right now I have 500 miles on it and I can't give a detailed answer on how the ride has changed. I'm gonna wait another 3 weeks, so stay tuned. And let me know if you order your suspension.
Stryker of Seattle may I ask what website or store did you purchase your fox 2.5 suspension?
Hello Christian.
I bought the suspension from Moore Racing In Las Vegas. I had to wait 1.5 months to get the suspension as items were on back order. Then my kit didn't include hardware, or the spanner wrench that the owner told me he would include. All in all, I'd take my business to All Pro Offroad or a local business that can get you a good deal. If your having a shop install your suspension, see if you can't have them order it because you might get discounts on parts and labor.
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Such a great walk through and a highly relatable video for us who don't have access to a twin post lift.
Thank you for taking the time to put this together.
Hello Arizonensis.
Thank you for commenting, and giving positive feedback. It was difficult installing the suspension by myself and recording at the same time. But this video proves that you do not need a twin post lift, and it can be done by one person. The only draw back to working alone, is that it took about 12 hours to install (I had to learn how to do it as I was installing it). Looking back I'm glad I did it because when I need to have my suspension rebuilt, I'll be able to remove the shocks without bring it to a shop. Saves on a lot of labor; and gives you the insight of working on your own truck.
@@pentzwerks I couldn't agree more with understanding the value of knowing the mechanics of the selected suspension and how it operates within these trucks, especially if a component of it fails or gets knocked loose on the trail, a more detailed inspection can be performed.
Thanks a ton for taking the time to comment back and sharing the level of detail that you did.
Great work and looking forward to your future content!
Nice video man! I've seen a bunch of suspension videos and everyone just seems to say take off said part then attach said part in its place. I'm sitting here thinking I don't even know what part that is he is talking about! Great job on explaining what you are doing as you are doing it!
Hello Tactical Survival
The only thing I’d change is have someone else record me so I could truly focus on the install. I’m glad it helped and I appreciate the positive feedback. This was my first time installing a suspension so I’m pleased with the results. Stay tuned for future videos.
Thanks for sharing this video. Super detailed and informative.... Really helped raise my confidence with doing this project on my 🌮
TheMbn1972.
I will always recommend doing these jobs yourself. That way when something breaks you can fix it on the trail or in your driveway. If you off road you should always do it yourself because it cost alot of money to have a "tech" do it.
Thanks for putting this together, mad props!!
Hello Jason T.
Thank you Jason. It took me a few months of research and searching before buying all of the different composites of the suspension. There are so many option out there along with purposes of buying each part. I'm glad the video helped you, good luck with your build. Let me know if you have any questions for me.
@@pentzwerks Question, and I apologize if I missed it. How did you chose the location for the reservoir bracket? Existing holes or new? Thank you!
Hello Jason T.
Front coil over resi are located on a bracket that is sandwiched between the frame and sway bar attachment. And the rear resi will have to be drilled, and Fox includes self tapping screws.
This is pretty awesome. Getting ready DIY on my 2017 Pro and this video definitely answered a lot of my questions. Wish you’d used King so it would have been the same as my setup. Thanks for posting this. Best install instruction there. No BS stuff.
Hello Jrbtolentino.
I tried to keep the words to a minimum and keep it very informational. I did not include everything I wanted to show but I think it gives a good idea on how to install your suspension. If I could do it all over again, I would have done Camburg Billet UCA and KING 2.5 with NO leaf pack. Let me know how your install goes, hopefully someone has adjusted your preload correctly and your coil overs are ready to install.
Stryker Seattle I’m planning on doing the install in a auto hobby shop will tools so I’ll be doing the pre load myself. I’m going to start with 10 turns which is 2” lift with the King. I’m planning on going with Dirt King UCA since they got a really good price on it. But out of curiosity why would you go Camburg?
Hello Jrbtolentino.
You can get Dirt King Control Arms for a great deal, I almost bought them because they were on sale. I would only go with Camburg Billet, because I like the CNC machined look and quality that they offer. Some other companies are offering machine billet UCA as well. Sounds like you're off to the right start, let me know if you have any questions for me.
Hi Stryker Seattle - Thanks again for your response!
Hello jrbtolentino.
Make sure you're careful when installing the upper control arms, I putted a wire when I put the driver side UCA in and it resulted in a $4000 new wire harness. Have someone look in the engine bay when you are putting the through bolt into the UCA. Best of luck, let me know when you have it all done and aligned.
Righteous man, 6 speed manual here as well!
Hello RoughPatchRoads
I’ll always have an manual; I’m glad Toyota still offers one.
Wow you have done a great job of other this video. Thank you! I can’t wait to do my front suspension. After I do the rear first.
Hello Jesse Stone.
The rear suspension is easier if you are just doing the rear shock. If you're replacing the leaf packs; it becomes more time consuming.
Great video man! Very sharp!
Hello James Fisher.
Thank you. I appreciate it and I'm glad it helped.
This is such an awesome video!! Pretty well made! Thank you very much for making it!!!
Question: for extended travel shocks, isn't it needed to extend the brake line?
Hello Pooroquio.
I would suggest extending the brake lines or transitioning to steel break lines if you off road heavily. I did not take my truck offroading so I did not extend them. I would say it's a requirement for long travel though. Let me know if you have any other questions.
Good job!
I'm gonna put Pro Comp pro running upper control arms for 2018 4x4 trd offroad. Thanks for showing details step by step.
Hello Keith Chhieng.
Thanks for the positive feedback, it took me about 13 hours to get this install done. Recording the steps took a bulk of the time, and learning how to do it as it was my first time installing a suspension. Pro Comp Pros are great UCA, I went with Total Chaos due to their reputation and build quality but they're expensive.
Nicely done. I also thought the video was presented very well.
Hello Dominic Walsh.
Thank you, I appreciate it. The video was intended to be a tutorial and to show that anyone can do the install. Sometime it's best to do the install yourself so you know the inner workings of the suspension.
Great video...very well made.
Both informative and interesting!
Thanks for sharing
Hello George.
Thank you for commenting. There will be more videos uploaded in the future.
Mahalo Skyler I really appreciate the info and video that you provided.
Hello Maka.
No problem, here to help. I haven't been able to find a lot of information about these custom suspensions, and now I want to make it easier for people that buy them in the future.
Video Links:
2016-2019 Toyota Tacoma LED Auxbeam Bulbs Install
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2016-2019 Toyota Tacoma Auxbeam Night Time Comparison Low Beam, High Beam and Fog Light
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2016-2020 Toyota Tacoma Lift, Wheels And Tires
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2016-2020 Toyota Tacoma MBRP Exhaust Video Compared To Stock Exhaust
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2016-2020 Toyota Tacoma MBRP Exhaust Video
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2016-2020 Toyota Tacoma MBRP Long Term Exhaust Review - Drone Issue
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2016-2020 Toyota Tacoma SpiderTrax Spacer Kit Installation, Review and Comparison
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2016-2020 Toyota Tacoma Pro Grill Install Step-By-Step
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2016-220 Toyota Tacoma Fox DSC 2.5 Suspension and Total Chaos UCA Unboxing Part Numbers Included
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2016-2020 Toyota Tacoma Fox DSC Suspension Front Coil-over Installation Step-By-Step
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Fox DSC 2.5 Suspension Adjustment: How To and What It does
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2016-2020 Toyota Tacoma 7 Reasons To Buy A Manual Truck
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2016-2020 Toyota Tacoma Stromung Exhaust Video
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2017 Toyota Tacoma: Am I Happy With My Truck?
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2020 Toyota Tacoma Walk Around Voodoo Blue
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2020 Toyota Tacoma Headlight LED Update And Thoughts
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2016-2020 Toyota Tacoma Factory Tonneau Cover Install Step-By-Step
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Toyota Tacoma 7 Benefits To Having An Aftermarket Suspension
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Amazing job 🌹
Hello BatMan.
Thank you for your positive feedback, it was definitely difficult installing and videoing at the same time. This video is hopefully going to help a lot of Toyota Tacoma owners install their own suspensions.
Stryker of Seattle You covered everything with basic tools man you're amazing 🌹
I hope too 🌹
Have a good time 🌹
Awesome instructional vid!! May have a few questions for you!!
Hello Ryan, redider736.
Please answer your questions, if it's about torque values for each bolt then that can be obtained through the dealer.
Great detail. Good vid 👍
Hello Troy P.
Thank you for the positive feedback. I wish I could have included more detail but it's difficult doing the install and recording at the same time. Best of luck with your build.
The best video on this install!! Great job and keep these good videos coming!!
Hello Miguel Munoz.
Thanks for the support, videos will continue to be upload this week and next week. Took a break from RUclips but now I'm ready to upload some new content.
remove reusable body rivets.take a 1 inch paint scraper cut or grind a notch into the scraper. then bend, to the shape of the factory tool. maybe a little heat helps with the bend. nice job
Hello Flathead1930.
I ended up using a drywall spacial to help guide the upper control arm bolt out, it's much better than taking channel locks and bending the wheel well. Thanks for commenting and the advice. Installing this suspension is truly a two man job, it was definitely rather difficult doing it by myself and recording it at the same time.
Have you had any problems with fox’s customer service? I hear a lot of bad things about their customer service which is why I’m leaning towards getting kings but the DSC from fox seems better
Hello Anthony Vu.
I've only called in twice to get measurement adjustments for preload on the front coil overs. I was able to get a tech on the phone in 5 minutes which was good. I choose fox because they are such a large brand with a spare parts warehouse. If I could do it over again, I'd go with extend travel 2.5 Kings with adjusters. Fox offers low speed and high speed, King overs one knob for compression. It's much easier to use the King suspension and it looks better.
I just bought some fox 2.5 front coil overs and I’m a little nervous about adjusted the height, I want a 2.5 inch lift since I don’t wanna max out the shock, how many threads do I need showing to get that? And if I use the tape measured method where do I begin measurement. Sorry for taking your time replying
Hello Michael.
Watch my adjustment video:
ruclips.net/video/g_b_5mMfOeQ/видео.html
Please use a tape measure and do not count the treads. I was told this directly from fox. You'll measure from the top of the treads to the adjustment collar. I explain this is the video above. Start watching it at 3:15 or watch the whole thing for how to adjust the ride quality. As far as adjusting preload; I suggest having a suspension shop with a press adjust it for you. If it "jumps" the treads or you adjust it while on the truck you'll use a lot of force. I did this and almost ruined the adjustment collar with a punch.
Let me know if you have any questions. I installed the suspension myself so I know what it's like to struggle through the install. Fox told me 1/2 of tread nets 1 inch of lift.
I was wondering where you got the front reservoir mounting bracket from, can't seem to find the one in your video. Thanks.
Hello Dale Sneed.
Fox includes this with their Resi Kits, do not buy a plastic one on eBay like I did. It's included so do not worry about it.
Thanks for the info.
Hello @@dalesneed6446
No problem, good luck with your build.
Can someone tell me what the difference is between Total Chaos UCAs For $799 and Rough Country UCAs for $269?
I got these Fox 2.5s waiting to go in, just haven't decided on UCAs yet. Would it be ridiulous to put cheap RC UCAs on Fox 2.5s?
Are you still planning on doing a ride quality video? I’ve been looking for reviews of the Fox 2.5 DSC shocks and there’s not a whole lot out there. I’d love to see some videos and hear your opinion on them. Thanks.
Hello Michael.
The following videos will be coming out in the next 2 weeks.
1. Walk-around video of the truck now that the suspension is on (aesthetics video)
2. How to adjust your DSC suspension, who would benefit most from this suspension.
3. My personal opinion of the suspension as a whole my experience so far.
4. A professional opinion of the suspension that will go over everything as a whole (video you want to see).
I've only driven 1,000 miles since I installed the suspension. Had some problems after installing it which I'll go over in the future videos. This suspension is extremely nice, I'm impressed. Right now I have it set up to ride like my Porsche, and it definitely lives to the positive reviews. But I'm not sure if it's worth the really expensive price tag.
Nice self-haircut 😂 all jokes aside solid video and solid truck/setup
Hello Savage.
I was going for the North Korea ruler look; and thanks the video turned out good and now people know how to install the suspension.
I am gonna go ahead and thank you for this video and recommend that other people Go ahead and watch this video. He does a pretty good job. And then God ahead and push like. Go ahead and prescribe. I am right in the middle of installing the upper control arms on my truck this helped thank you.
Hello Sue Taylor.
Thank you for your kind words. I made this video in the hopes it would help people do their own installs rather than pay someone else to do it. It's best if the owner does the install because you'll need to maintain the UCA in the future.
@@pentzwerks Also welded on the total chaos lower cam tab gussets & steering knuckle gussets. My welder buddy never did it before and they came with HORRIBLE instructions so he welded on the lca cam tab gussets wrong so we had to grind them down to meet the frame. Then as I was assembling the LCA on the passenger frame I noticed he welded one of the tabs that keeps alignment washer in place a quarter inch to far out. So we could weld on thousand TC LCA cam tab gussets a thousand more rimes and do it perfect every time. It didn’t say in the directions where the different size cam tabs go. Now they have those one and done alignment tabs that can be installed with them too. So my idea is to open up a shop and do 4x4 & hot rod builds and rent out space for DIY mechanics to come in with their tools and work on their vehicles. Probably have to check how much insurance would cost or have them waive their rights to sue form to sign because some people would rent one just so they could get a payday from the insurance and then my premiums would skyrocket. But it would give the DIY guys an advantage to have someone with build experience there to get technical support for things like that. Because first time doing anything mistakes are going to get made!
Looks great. Please post a vid of the truck after the 2.75". I'm going to order the Fox 2.5 w/ resi front and 2.0 w/ resi rear with 3 AAL.
Hello Gary.
I will post a video in the next coming weeks once the weather cools down in Washington. As of right now, the truck looks great and it rides like a dream. It took me 3 weeks of tweaking to get it to where it is now. I've removed the shocks 3 times to adjust them and finally I'm happy with the result. I'll document these tweaks in the next video so you won't have trouble installing them. Sounds like you ordered the right parts, did you buy the DSC Fox suspension or just resi?
Also, if you bought extend travel make sure to get upper control arms.. if you bought stock length then your stock control arms will work just fine.
Stryker of Seattle thanks for the reply. I won’t be getting the DSC. Truck will spend 95% of the time on pavement.
Hello Gary.
Perfect. This suspension is great on street and off road, and the non DSC Fox shocks are much cheaper than the high performance. Your ride quality will be 5/5 and you won't have to deal with installing upper control arms which is really nice. Removing the upper control arm are very difficult as you can tell from the video and you don't need to bend anything. Good luck with your install, the next video will show much more of how it looks and my opinion on the suspension.
Stryker of Seattle cool. I’m getting the extended travel 2.5” diameter ones so I’ll be getting some UCA. I’m having a shop do it all.
Hello Gary.
Sounds like your in good hands and I'm glad you found a shop to do the install. It's time consuming and if I could do it all over again, I would have done more research on the initial set up (aka preload and how much lift I wanted) then had a shop do the install. It was a fun experience, but sometimes it worth having a tech do it for you. If you do not want pay a lot for UCA, go with dirt king or camburg UCA. Total Chaos are nice but there are definitely more affordable UCA out there.
Do you have to get alignment done after you installed the chaos control arm and suspension lift???
Hello Jon T.V
Get the alignment done after everything is install. Make sure you’re happy with your preload / ride height and everything is torque down properly. Let me know if you have any other questions.
@@pentzwerks Do you have or know where to get the torque specs for doing this? I was going to pay someone to do this but I feel confident I can do this after watching this video. Just need the torque numbers. Thanks.
Hello @@mr.k9935
Yes I have the torque specs. Give me 24 hours to attach those to this comment. I would suggest asking your local Toyota dealership for the specs. Make sure you take your time will installing it and make sure you are carefully when becoming the through bolt of the UCA. I pulled an wire when I pulled the bolt through and cost me $1000 to replaces the harness. Have a friend help guide the bolt out, it was very difficult doing the install and recording it at the same time.
Good walk through for the C/O and UCA install! Just wondering what you did for your passenger side UCA through bolt. I am having issues trying to clear the metal since it seems gusseted.
Also, for my driver side, I fed the through bolt backwards so I don't have to re-bend the metal again.
Other than that, informative video!
Hello Timo Casa.
Be extremely careful about putting in the upper control arm backwards, if the nut is not properly torqued down than the bolt can come out completely. I used a flat head screw driver / drywall spatula to wedge between the frame and the bolt and tapped it out with a pin and hammer till it came loose. The passenger side is more difficult as it's more camped due to the air filter.
Thank you for commenting, let me know if you have any other questions. Be careful with putting the bolt backward, but companies like ICON tell you to put it in backwards for future maintenance.
It'll also help to have someone help you, one person should be in the wheel well and someone should be looking through the top of the engine bay.
@@pentzwerks
That is a good point! If the nut is properly torqued (or re-torqued after at least 100 miles) the chances of the through bolt falling is unlikely. Of course, that, paired with a supplied nyloc nut, loctite, and visual inspection of hardware, will increase the security of that through bolt.
Anyways, your video definitely helped out as I installed my UCA!
Hello @@timcasallo1373.
Excellent, I'm pleased to see that you know to re-torque after 100 miles. This suspension will need constant checking after every off-road usage, it's good practice to check everything after a trip off the payment.
Good luck with your build, let me know what you think about the suspension after you've used it for awhile.
Great video!
My question is how did you like the Revtek kit that you had before? I had that Revtek kit on my old Tacoma and I put almost 100k miles on it with no issues!
My second question is did you lose some ride height going from the Revtek spacer to the Fox coil-overs?
My pavement princess is about to get a lift and I’m really leaning towards just getting another Revtek kit! I’ve also been leaning towards the Fox stage 2 extended coil over kit.
I know I’m not hard on my truck and all I want is for it to look better- taller, so I’d hate to spend the money on the Fox kit if I’d be perfectly happy w another Revtek kit.
Thanks man!
Hello H Mac.
I would definitely suggest going with a leveling kit if you're going to stay on the road. They're the most reliable option out of all the ways to lift your truck. The reason why I lost ride height is because the Fox suspension was designed for ride quality and not ride height, a leveling kit is the opposite with ride height as it's first goal. If I could do it all over again I would have kept my leveling kit as the Fox suspension was so much money and it had to be constantly adjusted. Leveling kits are definitely less maintenance. If you have any other questions, let me know. I know this was a short response, and I can provided a more detailed comparison. The answer will be the same though, go with the leveling kit.
Stryker of Seattle Man I figured you’d say that!
So I found a video that CustomWheelOffsets put out, and it’s about stacking lifts. I know- don’t do it. But let me run this by you.
I’m now looking at the 4” BDS drop bracket lift. I don’t really want to go to 6”..
Anyway, I’m thinking about NOT using the 4” top spacer that they include, and buying Fox coilovers for 2” of lift and then putting a 2” spacer on that, which will give me the same geometry as the 4” spacer but will give me the Fox ride quality. And since the drop bracket will realign the drive angles, the shocks will be safe from damage because the LCA will still hit the bump stop like the truck was at stock height!!
Thoughts??
Hello H Mac.
I would not recommend stacking your lifts. This is dangerous as the spacer would be between the coil bucket that only has a 1 inch lip to make sure the coil over head does not move. By putting a spacer you're moving the coil over head lower where it could loosen and maybe fall out of place due to the bolts breaking. I would highly recommend not doing this. Also, I would not suggest doing anything over a 2 inch spacer. Anything taller in height will have more of a risk of breaking over time. My thoughts are siding with not stacking and choosing one or the other.
Mine are on order! Are these instructions gtg? Thanks man, gave me the confidence I need to do it!
2017 SR5 4x4 AT
Hello @@TheRollCajun
My advice is to take your time; make SURE you have all the tools and someone to help you. Be patience when installing the suspension; and make sure everything is torqued to spec. I had troubles with the UCA through bolt and sway bar relocation bracket. Make sure you only use the hardware provided and red lock tight. Best of luck.
@@pentzwerks thank you. Red lock tight?
P.S. and friend recruited!
Hello @@TheRollCajun
Blue is preferred as you can re-locktight if you retorque the bolts down or red lock tight is you do not plan on retorque the bolts. It's up to you. Just make sure they are torqued to spec.
Had a question about installing the remove reservoirs. Where did you loop the mounting clips through on the frame? It’s a little hard to tell from the video. I have a 5th gen 4runner so I’m wondering if i could do it similarly instead of welding a bracket onto the frame. Thank you!
Hello Christopher Alexander.
For the Toyota Tacoma and 4Runner, the remote reservoirs are mounted between the frame and the sway mount brackets. In my Fox kit, they included 2 spacer brackets that moved the sway forward so you can put the mounts between the body and the mount. Once you have that installed you'll use the supplied wire / clamps to put through the mount brackets then around the reservoirs themselves. Let me know if you have any other questions.
The Pentz Project thanks a lot for the super quick response! I’ll be installing Kings with the remote reservoirs but they don’t come with bolt on brackets. I ended up ordering some from Dirt King and hopefully those will work. I plan to remove the sway bar to install a long travel kit with the Kings.
Great video by the way....the best I’ve seen. Keep it up!
Hello @@christopheralexander5121
I would contact the shop you bought them from as they should of come with mounting brackets. I'm glad you ended up purchasing from Dirt King, best of luck with your build. And the long travel will be really nice to have but it requires a lot of tune up if you use it heavily.
Great video!!!
Hello Martin.
Thank you for commenting, be on the look out for future videos coming within the next few weeks.
Question: I’m about to get 33s and ICON suspension installed on my Tacoma you think I would need a diff drop/spacers to keep the drive-line and CV angle closer to stock? I would hate to stress those components....what’s your thoughts🤔
Hello David.
I went with a spacer kit for the drive shaft to prevent anything from being stressed. The kit cost $12 and it takes 30 minutes to install. I installed it out of precaution but I think it’s a good idea to put a kit on.
Good choice on the Fox. Does this aftermarket suspension void any warrantees?.
Hello Gilbert.
Replacing the Front Coil Overs, Rear Shock, Upper Control Arms and Leaf Pack does not void the warranty. I only discuss the warranty as a warranty on the aftermarket parts, if you install these parts yourself you might need to tinker with the set up. If you have the dealer install these parts, you can hold them responsible for any mistakes with installation, initial set up and future problems (obviously they will not cover abuse). Let me know if you have any other questions.
Great content bra! Would you recommended getting Icon Tubular UCA’s with your set up?
Which one is a better way to go? Your total chaos or the icons
Hello Chris Trujilo.
There are so many options now for Tubular UCA's, Icon is a great brand and Total Chaos is an excellent brand as well. You can go with either, save money and go with the ICON's.
I love your vids, thanks for the post. Keep them coming. How much did this whole setup cost by the way? I’m lookin forward to the same setup on my Taco pro.
Hello Sarn.
Here is a price break down:
Total Chaos Upper Control Arm (96504) - $675.00
Fox Factory Series Shocks Front (880-06-418) - $1,490.00
Fox Factory Series Shocks Rear (883-26-007) - $990.00
OME Suspension System (EL095R) - $105.00
OME Suspension Systems Leaf Pack (EL095R) - $420.00
These are the best prices I could find. The prices might be different depending on who you order through, I'd suggest the person I bought them through but they forgot hardware in my kit, and delayed shipping due to back orders. All in all, I got a great deal at $3,680 because I saved on sales tax and got free shipping. Let me know if you have any question. Plus you can sell your Pro suspension after you install this and get $1500 for your shocks, upper control arms, and leaf pack. Let me know how it goes.
Thanks Stryker for the breakdown of the price, I really appreciate it.
Hello Sarn.
Not a problem, when I was researching this suspension and other suspension companies there was no information about them that was helpful. Now that I've bought my suspension and installed it myself, I know a lot more about it. Just trying to help others.
Hey Stryker, do you have videos of when you installed your Dakar AAL? If so please send a link.
Also, can you help me out on choosing the Dakar AAL. I’m running a RCI bedrack which is probably around close to 100lbs, a Tepui XL Ruggadized rooftop tent 200-250 lbs; Rotopax fuel can and maxtrax. Total weight estimation is probably around 300-350 lbs not including camping gears when out camping. I have about 2-2 1/2 inch droop in the rear cause of the weights I carry. Should I go with the Dakar AAL ELO95R or should I go with ELO96R? Do you know if both Dakar models use the same bushings? And do I need one pack of the bushings or do I need 2 packs?
Hello Sarn.
I would definitely suggest the EL095R Dakar Leaf Pack because of how much you care in your bed while camping. I replaced the stock leaf pack because my jet ski is 250 lbs and I did not want the rear to sage. I do not know of the EL096R (most likely it's the 3rd generation specific leaf pack) the EL095R fit perfectly on my truck. Now I feel comfortable putting loads in the back of my truck and transporting heavy objects. Look in the description for the parts list and URL to the parts. Let me know if you have any other questions.
After installation pictures? What does it look like now...as compared to "before"
Hello Drumtwo4seven.
I did not take before and after pictures as it's a video, or do a walk around as this is solely a installation video and not a comparison video. If you want to see the before a after you can look at two of my previous videos:
Video for Stock Suspension with Leveling Kit
go to 1:02 in the video.
ruclips.net/video/TS_NN92_bTg/видео.html
Video for Fox Suspension Walk Around
go to 11:50 in the video.
ruclips.net/video/fPvueoYfVrQ/видео.html
Did you consider the Trd Pro ? What made you choose the Trd Off Road rather than the Trd Pro ? Great video!
Hello Mcnasty3303.
Reasons I purchased the TRD Offroad over the Pro in 2017
1. Sunroof, TRD Pro did come with one in 2017
2. TRD off road is cheaper than the Pro
3. Did not want to pay for an over priced suspension that I would replace anyways
4. I did not want leather seats, leather seats fade and wear with seat heats
5. I wanted to buy my own truck and not just drive a TRD Pro stock
6. I think Pro's are cool but they're over rated
7. It's impossible to find a Pro at a good deal
8. I wanted a manual and not an automatic, it's extremely hard to find a Pro in a manual
The only reasons I would have bought a Pro is so that when I off road it hard then the dealer would replace everything. Since I have my fox suspension on it they point to the suspension if I have "any problems" even if it's not the suspension that caused it. All and all, if I could go back I probably would have bought a Pro so that everything would be warrantied. I had to pay $5300 in damages to my truck after installing the suspension due to improper installation (coil over pre load adjustment caused the sway bar to become disconnected, and wire harness got pulled when installing the upper control arms). All these problems were self inflicted by me, and only because I did not have someone helping me with the install.
@@pentzwerks thanks for the reply! I'm currently having a hard time deciding between the Trd pro and an off road manual
Hello Mcnasty3303.
I'll be selling my Tacoma this spring to upgrade to another Tacoma or Ford Raptor. Let me know what you end up choosing, good luck finding a pro. I would wait till Christmas time to buy your Tacoma so you can save during Black Friday Sales (you'll be able to get a discount on Off road models).
Hello Mcnasty3303.
If you can find a TRD Pro Manual in the color you want, I'd get it. It's just a matter of price and how much you're willing to pay. Many dealers put a mark up on them and there's a waiting list. Good luck, definitely let me know if you find a manual try pro and what state you get it in.
Do you have an install video for the rear shocks ?
Hello Jesse Stone.
I did not make a video of the rear shocks install. It was too difficult for me to record; move the leaf packs around and do the overall install.
@@pentzwerks Thank you! I really appreciate the quick reply. I just installed my Deaver Leaf Springs today. Now I feel much more confident about doing the rear shocks next! Thank you for the very helpful video of your front suspension install. I plan to do that sometime next year 2021. Your videos are very helpful and clear. Thank you 100!
Good Evening.
Just wondering what does it mean to let the suspension settle with these coilovers?
Do we need to drive with them for a bit and then make adjustments to the ride height?
Thank you!!
Awesome video!
Hello Fernando.
Are your coil overs already installed on the truck? If so, then you can adjust them on the truck with WD40 and a spanner wrench. Or you will have to remove them to adjust preload. If you're happy with the ride height, then there is no need to adjust. I want a full 3 inches of lift as I'm rubbing on the drivers side, so I want to lift the front up another inch. Let me know if you have any questions, I'll be making more videos on how to adjust these suspensions.
Hello Fernando.
Currently my suspension is set to 5 clicks on the blue knock from the negative side, and having the gold knob all the water tightened. The truck rides really nice now but I will continue to tweak it for the next coming weeks. What are your current settings on your DSC suspension.
Stryker of Seattle
I have all the clickers open up to the left. It rides beautiful. For the first 1000 miles the coils are still adjusting. Make sure to tighten the bolts after 500 miles or soo.
Hello Fernando.
I tighten everything after 500 miles and then 1000 miles. My sway bar unbolted itself from the spindle and caused $1300 damage as it ripped the abs speed censor and destroyed the CV boot. This lead to my whole front axle being replaced at the dealer. Make sure to use RED Lock Tight on the sway linkage as the factory does this before the truck leaves the assembly line. This was a very costly mistake I made.
How much threads showing and how much lift?
Hello Mike Schoolcraft.
Watch this video. Comment if you have any other questions. I explain the adjustment.
ruclips.net/video/g_b_5mMfOeQ/видео.html
Hey Stryker, going to put 33's on my 17 tacoma as well here in the next few weeks and been looking at this setup. Saw a reply that you made about the suspension damaging the truck and was just curious as too the cause and problems that arose from it etc. I saw that you have since ditched the setup and was wondering what you run now to accommodate for the tires?
Hello PD_55.
I'm going to make a video about these problems this week to further explain what had happened and how it can be fixed.
Engine Harness Replacement $3995.00
The through bolt for the upper control arm pulled on the engine harness wire that controls the airbag system. Dealer told me that the whole engine harness had to be replaced due to liability and reported it to Carfax. I had them replace the engine harness for liability reasons, the connect simply was pulled out of the plug and they didn't want to put the wire back into place. A fix to this solution is too be extreme careful when putting in the upper control arms or have a shop do it so they accept liability.
Front Axle Replacement $1400.00
The fox coil over require you to put a sway bar spacer kit in. The factory front coilers from Toyota correct for Tacoma lean, aftermarket shocks do not. Due to the high difference of 3/4 of an inch. The sway bar come loose from the spindle and ripped the speed sensor and ripped open the CV boot. Due to the fact the boot had to be replace, and all of the gease from the passenger side went to the drivers side I had the dealer replace the whole front axle.
Both mistakes could of be corrected for and you can learn from my mistakes. Again, I'll go into detail about these problems in the next video. Let me know if this gave you a good idea about what I experience, be on the look out for the next video.
Stryker Seattle thanks for the reply, very good information to know and will definitely be looking for the video. New sub from me!
Hello @@XxKillacalikid209xX.
Thank you for subscribing, I'm trying to get a much information as I can to other Tacoma owners. People can avoid doing research then and get the suspension they want.
Your videos are awesome and very informative. I’ve got a 2017 DCSB OR and I’m actually waiting to see how your review is. I’m currently torn between Kings and Fox Level 3 like you have. Great great videos. Killing it man can’t wait to see the next ones. Do you have a Instagram by Chance ?
Hello J. Munster.
Thank you for the positive feedback, I'm trying to help people research different products and find what suits them. Fox is a great company and has a wide range of products, and King is also a really good company. If I could do it again, I'd get Kings only for the color. Both are great brands, I'd shop around for price and see if you can't get shocks at a discount then go with that brand. No Instagram at this point, just youtube. If I start a Instagram I'll comment on this and let you know. Let me know if you have any other questions.
Why didn’t you choose the icon stage 3 or stage 4 and you could have got all the stuff you got in that same kit cheaper I have a 2019 trd off-road I don’t want to go real high so what how high to not really put stress on everything and I know a diff drop may need installed also
because Icon is digressive, which means it runs way stiffer on road.
Hello @@edgerat and James Howard.
Yes Icon's are degressive which means they are stiffer on the road then looser off road. Fox and King shocks are the opposite offering more forgiveness at low speeds then tightening at higher speeds. In addition to that, the Fox DSC suspension allows you to customize your ride quality by adjusting the low speed and high speed adjusters.
@@pentzwerks which is what I said.... If you buy your non-adjustable coilovers from a reputable company they will be bang on tuned out of the box. Like Downsouth Motorsports for example.
Hello Isaac Jarrett
Yes buying already tuned shocks is a good idea if you do not want to mess around with adjusting the high speed and low speed compression. This would mean that you knew what you wanted as far as comfort and off road performance. If you have the DSC shocks you are able to tune your suspension on the fly when you exit the trail and you want a stiffer suspension for freeway driving. It’s honestly up to personal preference and how much money you want to spend.
Will changing my uca’s fix my rubbing issue? I have 2016 Tacoma with 3in lift and I have 285 75 16’s. I never rub while driving but it rubs a little when I reverse with the wheel turned all the way. It’s not bad but I’m paranoid about fixing the issue lol. Thanks!
Hello Sterling Silver.
It's always a good idea to change your UCA to an aftermarket UCA after lifting your truck; due to the increased distance the coil over will travel. By install new aftermarket UCA you can increase the camber of the alignment therefore pushing the wheel forward or backward. My suggestion to you is to get a CMC (Cab Mount Chop) and remove the wheel well mud flaps. What is the offset of your wheels?
Stryker Seattle I have the stock wheels I think it’s +25. I was looking into getting maybe some 0 offset wheels. Thanks for all your help!
I don’t understand the lower spacer... how did it go in?
Hello Donard Ebana
Are you talking about the 1/4 spacer above the front drivers coil over or the sway bar spacer?
Stryker Seattle
The ones on the lower part of the coilovers.
Hello Donard Ebana
You are referring to the misalignment spacers that located on the lower part of the coil over. When installing the coil over, make sure the long spacer faces forwards together the front of the truck and the short spacer faces the rear.
Stryker Seattle
Thank you.
Hello@@arrow_head24
Not a problem. Thank you for commenting.
Awesome job. Is your truck 4wd. I have 2wd and would like to put a leveling kit.
Hello Maka.
My truck is a 2017 Toyota Tacoma TRD Offroad 4x4 In A 6-Speed Manual Transmission. I would suggest a leveling kit if you're going to keep your 2 wheel drive truck on the pavement only. It's 1/6 of a cost of the suspension that I put on my truck, and it's all you need if your not taking your truck off roading.
Here's a video (shows my leveling kit & part numbers are in the description): ruclips.net/video/yDyfS4v5hdY/видео.html
How difficult is it to adjust the height on the front coil overs? Is a spring compressor needed?
I just installed these shocks and a spring compressor does more damage than good. I got a 5/16 punch and adjusted it while on the truck lifted off the ground with the wheel off. Used PB blast and a lot of muscle. please note: make sure the punch is all the way in the hole. Used a 22mm wrench to turn the punch using it as a breaker bar.
@@dalesneed6446 thanks man, i wanna get these Fox but heard a spring compressor was needed
Nice! You have any issues with the needle Bearing after the lift?
Hello Robert Mai.
No issues with the needle bearings after both lifts were installed (leveling kit & Fox suspension).
What is your mpg after the lift abd new tires?did it get worst from stock?
Hello Darwin Valiente.
With the manual transmission with a 3 inch lift with 285, my indicated MPG is around 18-19mpg. When you take into factor the tire size difference it's probably 20 mpg average. The manual transmission are geared differently than the automatic. I'd say prepare for a 2-3 mpg decrease once installing the lift and tires.
Hi. Nice video. Wat sizes tires and wheels you running.
Hello Jose Luis Rojas
Check out my Wheels, Tires and Lift Video. Parts and Links are in the description of the video.
ruclips.net/video/yDyfS4v5hdY/видео.html
Please update on thread count on the front shocks once you hit 2.75". Been thinking about this kit and wondering if it actually hits that mark. Thanks for the vid.
Hello Thomas Carvalho.
After contact Fox Racing Company, they suggested that I use a tape measure instead of counting the treads. You measure from the top of the coiler to the beginning of the tread count. On my truck I set the measurement of treads showing to 1.75 inches, this has netted to 2.25 of lift over stock. Remember, the 3rd generation tacoma came with 1 inch of lift already from the factory. After measuring the treads, I also added a 1/4 spacer to the top of the coiler on the drivers side to cope with tacoma lean (Driver & Gas Tank on Driver Side causes a 1/2 difference in height). Let me know if you have any questions. I'll count the treads but I highly suggest getting a tape measure and just measuring it as it's more reliable and what the Fox tech told me. Make it simply, just measure.
@Stryker Seattle did you have to get extended bolts for the 1/4” spacer
Installing mine this weekend any along with the rear shocks and aal. Any tips or things to look out ?
Hello T A.
Lift the truck on two jack stands on both sides and then use the floor jacket under the rear axle. When you start removing stuff, do the passenger side then the drivers side. Have a friend help you, the bolts that bolt the leaf pack to the truck have red lock tight on them so it will take some force.
1. Lift the truck with two jacket stands located behind the rear door.
2. Move the floor jack under the rear axles so you can control it and release tension on the leaf packs
3. Remove wheels and tires, make sure you put them out of the way
3. Remove the rear shocks
4. Remove the Bolts
5. Verify that you have control of the axle
6. Lower the axle down to release flex from the pack
7. Remove leaf pack (both sides at the same time)
8. Insert the ALL
9. Place leaf pack back in (leave the axle close to the ground)
10. Attach U bolts on both sides
11. Reattach the new rear shocks.
12. Jack Up rear axle
13. Tight all bolts down using (blue lock tight) do not use red
14. Recheck everything
15. Put tires back on
16. Drive for 100 miles and retorque
I hope this answers your questions, I installed everything by myself and it was difficult. My Dakar leaf packs are 75lbs a piece. Take a slow and follow the instructions above. Let me know if you have any other questions.
Stryker of Seattle thank you I'm doing it by myself as well thanks for the good info
And pros and cons ? Does it drive smooth on highway and trails ?
Hello Shade Ss.
This deserves a very long response and review but I only have time for a short review of the suspension.
Positives:
1. Highly customizable right quality
2. Unbeatable off-road performance
3. Suspension looks bad ass
4. You can firm up the suspension on the highway and loosen it on the off road roads
Cons:
1. It's so expensive for what it is, expect to pay around $5300 for this set up
2. Do you off road enough to justify that price
3. Maintenance can be costly (rebuilding shocks)
4. It cost $1000 to install if you have a dealership or off road shop do it.
The only con is the price and how much you'll use it. It's hard to sell trucks with these suspension on them because people assume that they were abused off road. Keep your old suspension so you can go back to stock if you sell the truck.
It drives smooth off road and on road. Remember you can customize the ride quality by putting the knobs in different settings.
Let me know if you have any other questions. I'll make a video in the future about this suspension but I sold it 3 months after installing it due to damage it caused my truck.
How did you remove the passenger side UCA through bolt?
Hello Kevin Naira.
I ended up using a dry wall applicator; similar to a puddy knife to help guide the bolt around the frame. The passenger side is much for difficult, basically you need to put the puddle knife between the frame and bolt to help guide it out after tapping on it from below. I would recommend having two people help you; one to watch the bolt as it comes out and the other to slowly tap it out. Let me know if you have any other questions.
Here's a link to what I used:
www.grainger.com/product/24Z418?cm_mmc=PPC:+Google+PLA&ef_id=Cj0KCQjwrrXtBRCKARIsAMbU6bGBBcAUabNINP2w3SP6aDhTh5Q-Bxim4jDpgKUzsxCx3Vre7RY6WosaAi27EALw_wcB:G:s&s_kwcid=AL!2966!3!264955915862!!!g!461779184394!&gclid=Cj0KCQjwrrXtBRCKARIsAMbU6bGBBcAUabNINP2w3SP6aDhTh5Q-Bxim4jDpgKUzsxCx3Vre7RY6WosaAi27EALw_wcB
Striker i am purchasing a 2019 Tacoma TRD sport 4X4 in April 2019, I will not go off roading, 99% road and maybe 1% light dirt road, I want to add 33inch tires and level the truck, do you recommend a lift kit? I f so what is the best kit, and if you recommend replacing coil over and shocks what do you recommend, thanks for the great videos.
Hello Eddie Sanin.
First off, congratulation on buying your new Tacoma. As for your suspension question, lets narrow down that question and find you what you're looking for. The leveling kit is the most reliable of lifts you can do with the truck, and the dealership won't give you grief over them. Since I installed my Fox suspension, I've had to pay $5,500 in damages due to a engine hardness issue caused by the upper control arms and a front axle due to the sway bar coming loose. I've removed my fox suspension and went back to my leveling kit as it's more reliable. What is your budget for this lift? Do you want to replace the upper control arms? Do you want a comfortable ride, does ride quality matter? What brand of suspension do you like (fox, icon, king, arb, bilstein)? If your'e only looking to replace the shocks and coil overs in the front I'd suggest a toytec lift in the front and maybe leave the rear stock? Do you load your truck bed with stuff, is so you might want to replace the rear stocks. Answers the questions and I can help point you in the right direction. My thoughts would be to stick with the leveling kit if you're not doing any off roading and log roads are maintained so you do not need a beef suspension to handle them. If I could go back, I would have help my truck with the leveling kit instead of buying a $4000 suspension and paying $5500 in damages to replace parts that were broken by the suspension.
@@pentzwerks Really? I have a 2016 Tacoma TRD Sports and have been thinking about the Fox 2.5 Coilovers. My truck is ready for a new sets of tires and thinking about installing the TRD rims with 285/70R17 tires. So the best way to go is the leveling kit with 1.25 spacer maybe?
Hello@@csreyesccm.
The fox 2.5 coil over and rear shocks are a great suspension, and the DSC model is even better when it comes to adjustment. I've had both a leveling kit and the fox suspension, and if you're only lifting your truck to drive on the street then get the leveling kit. If you off road every weekend and want a really nice ride on the road and off road, go with the fox suspension. If you want to stay compliant with your Toyota warranty install the RevTek leveling kit. If anything goes wrong with your tacoma after you've installed it, most dealerships will use it as a scapegoat to every problem you experience. The 285 tires will fit with both suspension set ups, if you end up buying the fox suspension have someone install it so they accept liability if anything goes wrong. If I could go back I would have stayed with the leveling kit, and saved $4000 for the suspension and the $5000 in damages it caused (engine harness and sway bar linkage). Let me know if I answered your question. It all depends on what you use your truck for and whether or not it justifies having an expensive, high performance suspension. If you go with the fox suspension, a lot of people will approach you with questions about the suspension. The 2.5 coil overs are as large in diameter as the stock ford raptor suspension.
@@pentzwerks That definitely solidify my choices. No plan of going off roading. Just for show. RevTek leveling kit is the best one out there and will I possibly need 1.25 wheel spacer?
Hello @@csreyesccm.
The leveling kit is the best options for you, you DO NOT need 1.25 wheel spacers. I rubbed with the wheel spacers, with the leveling kit there is no rubbing. Toyota even warranties the RevTek leveling kit, and you do not have to deal with Tacoma Lean you are putting the spacers above the factory suspension.
Watch my leveling kit suspension, wheels and tires video. It explains the leveling kit set up.
ruclips.net/video/yDyfS4v5hdY/видео.html
Awesome video now I need to get my lift! TY!
Hello Jeff.
If you're looking to get a lift in the near future, I'd suggest taking advantage of all the "Black Friday" sales and holiday sales so that you can save money. Wait 2 months, and everything will be an average of 20% cheaper.
what about changing out the leafs?
Hello Peter Danglabiga.
I didn't record the rear installation as my camera had dead and it was very difficult to record while installing the rear. I suggest having friend help you with the rear leaf packs as they're about 70-90 a piece.
Have you had any issues with the lift and how does it ride compared to the stock suspension
Hello Ar Ar.
I had 2 major problems with the lift after it was installed. Issue 1: Cost $4000 to fix (wire harness due to upper control arm installation. Issue 2: CV boot damage due to the sway bar coming loss while daily driving it. I would suggest going with ICON or King before Fox; it rode a lot better than stock. If you do not off road a lot just go with a leveling kit which is 1/5 of the cost with the same look.
@@pentzwerks why do you say king or icon would be better than fox? Was looking into a similar set up, but maybe going with the delta joint icon UCAs. Thanks.
Hello @@goofball549
King's and Fox's suspension are progressive so they stiffen up as you go fast over bumps. Icons are degressive so they are stiffer then loosen up. I do not recommend Fox due to my experience only, they are a great product but did not serve me well. I do like the Delta Joint Icons, try and get UCA that have a concealed ball joint (makes for as easier clean).
I installed these and cant figure put which direction makes suspension stiffer or softer
Hello Joshua Behzad.
Focus on the blue knob if you want a soft / stiffer ride. If you move the blue knob to the + side, you'll get a softer ride, if you move it to the - side then you'll get a stiffer ride. Try that out and see if it works, this suspension is tricky to adjust when you do not know how. It took me 2 months to figure it out and I feel as if I still do not know how to adjust it fully.
May I ask what steered you towards the Fox setup versus, say Kings?
Hello JKD0629.
Kings and Fox are very similar (both progressive), but they use different ways of offering the same performance. The reasons I choose Fox over King are:
1. Rebuild-ability - I can send them into the Fox Factory to be rebuild within a few weeks
2. Aesthetics - I do not like the shinny blue color, and I prefer the black and anodized aluminum
3. Spare Parts - If I need something the Fox Factory will have it in stock
4. Public Image - Fox is on everything (mountain bikes, razors, off road trucks and car)
5. Longevity - Fox has been around a long time, sometimes these off road companies disappear (I'm not saying King will, but it's a possibility)
There will be people that side with either Fox or King, both are great companies. If I could do it again, I would go with King's because of the way they mount on the truck. If you're going to buy a high performance suspension, you might as well show it off.
Here is a professional review of Fox vs Kings by Accutune Offroad:
accutuneoffroad.com/articles/fox-vs-king-2-0-coilover-shock-comparison/
Here is another break down of the comparison between Fox and Kings:
www.offroad-engineering.com/foxvsking.html
FJ Cruiser Forum:
www.fjcruiserforums.com/forums/suspension-steering-tech/150996-fox-2-5-vs-king-2-5-a.html
Let me know if you have any other questions.
The Accutune review is all you need to know. Fox is built with superior materials. Turn around time is minimal during non race season. Matches your sled/mtb/rzr setup.
Did the foxes come with the sway bar drop?
Hello T A
Yes Fox includes the sway bar drop bracket in the front coilover kits. Only thing you have to buy is blue lock tight so that the bolts stay in place, as there's a lot of vibration as you drive down the road and offroad
Did u need an alignment done ?
Hello Minneso Taco.
Yes I got a wheel alignment done after I had leveled truck and go the coil overs to the height I wanted. I suggest getting a wheel alignment done whenever replacing or large adjusting the suspension. Most Toyota dealership will give you a free alignment if your truck under warranty.
Is it necessary to install diff drop kits on 4wd 3rd gen Tacoma’s?
Hello Edaurdo Lopez.
There is no need to install the diff drop kit unless you are hearing a rotating noise after lifting your truck. I install this kit as a preventative measure so that I would not have a problem later on.
Would you recommend me installing it?
Hello @@eddylopez2737 .
I would wait until your lift is installed. Install the lift and wheel alignment, then install the bracket is the truck starts making a rotation sound.
Ok thank you very much for the advice I really appreciate it
Hello @@eddylopez2737
Not a problem, good luck with your build.
No torque wrench...?
Hello Jason.
When recording this video, I had left my Torque Wrench at my house. After finishing the install, I torque everything down to factory spec once returning back to the truck a day later. I'll be uploading a PDF that states all the torques for all parts of the front suspension and rear. Let me know if you have any other questions, thank you for pointing that out.
How is the ride now compared to the oe strut with level kit? I'm looking to by a kit like this soon
Hello Michael.
The ride quality is similar to stock, and I'm still learning how to adjust the DSC (low speed and high speed) to dial in my suspension. In the next few days, I'll be removing the front coil overs to adjust ride height. I want a full 2.75 inches of lift as the suspension settled at 1.75 inches of lift (some rubbing) but there will not be any rubbing once I'm at 2.75 inches. Offroad ride quality will be a significant difference but I'll be going into detail in a future video. All and all, the suspension is very expensive and the ride quality is good. Let me know if you have any questions.
Stryker of Seattle how do we know when the suspension will settle? I got these on mine about three weeks ago and wondering if I need to do any adjustments? Thank you and great video
Hello Fernando.
Suspension settling means that the springs in the coilers in the front have a chance to compress under the vehicle weight. For example, if you install a new coiler and have the preload set to 2.9 inches. It will settle to 2.75 after the truck weight is put on the coilovers. When getting your suspension to settle it is advised to roll it back and fourth, or drive it a mile or two. You will only need to do adjusting if you want more or less lift height. In the next two weeks, I'll be taking my front suspension off and readjusting the pre load so that I get 3 inches of lift.
Hello Micheal O & Fernando Badillo.
The ride quality is excellent, completely customizable and it rides like a dream. I'll go over this in detail in the next video I upload, but I wanted to let you guys know where I stand now. Let me know if you have any other questions for me.
2inch lift??
Hello Om Bass.
With the Fox suspension installed; I had about a 2.5-2.75 inch lift.
Torque Specs??
Hello Patrick Smith.
Top of Coilover - 64
Bottom of Coilover - 83
Sway Bar Link to Frame - 50
Sway Bar to Spindle - 83
Wheel Bolts - 86
All are in foot pounds, let me know if you have any other questions.
The Dakar leaf pack give 2 inch lift and the rear shocks are shorter than that. Do you have any problem with that? Thank you
Hello Wayne Wang.
From the factory the rear sits about 1 inch so when you put the Dakar leaf pack in, it sits about 3 inches high in the rear. You should have no problems with the rear shocks being shorter if you do not fully flex your suspension in the rear, you should be fine. All and all, you will not have a problem. The rear shocks I installed were made for the Tundra so they have 13 inches of travel and not 12 inches, but 12 inches should be fine.
how is the ride compared to stock
Hello M Blake Jr.
The ride quality is good, but not good enough to justify the price I paid for the suspension. I'll be going over this in a future video. In short, I'm happy with the suspension but while installing it the engine harness got damaged from installing the upper control arms ($4900) and the sway bar came loss and ripped the ABS line ($1300). All this was because of details I'll share in a future video.
Suspension ride nice but it's more for off road capability than ride comfort. If I could do it again I would have stayed with my level kit. That would have saved me $3600 in parts and $5200 in damage to my vehicle. This is the cliff notes of what happened but I'll explain in more detail in the video.
@@pentzwerks holy shit dude. got to be more careful
@@pentzwerks I dont see how you did that. why didn't you just splice the wire
Hello M Blake Jr.
The wire was not damaged at all, it simple became loss in the air bag sensor harness located on the front drivers side. One wire was still held by the harness and the other ways loss. I brought the truck in because it had a check engine warning, then they found the wire and reported it to carfax. Since they reported it to carfax I had to replace it because of liability (if you know something doesn't work correct and do not replace it, you can be held responsible).
1. Dealer forced me into replacing the harness because they reported it to Carfax. They did not want to plug it back in because of liability. They did not want me to plug it in either and I could of fixed it myself if I would have known.
2. Liability $4900 is for a new harness is cheaper than getting sued because you didn't fix the airbag system
2. Cost: The airbag system is tied into the engine harness which is the longest and most complex engine harness.
All and all, very expensive experience. I will have the dealer install everything from now on.
@@pentzwerks dude u got fkd, I would have told them to fk off and fixed it myself
Hey bro you need to fire your barber....
Hello Tyler Depriest.
You're right about that. Hairs all back to normal now, check the last video. Thanks for commenting.
luckily my girlfriend has some "tweezers"...
Hello Cody G.
Thanks for commenting.
Cool video man.. nice set up! Check my Tacoma if you have time ...
Hello Mustanglx.
I checked out your videos and I like the read skid plate, did you just paint the factory skid plate? Nice sports edition, looks like it can handle being off road just fine. Thanks for the commenting, let me know if you have any questions.
It’s a oem part from the trd pro.my friend that did the paint job on my mustang painted the skid plate ..thanks for the replying.. it handles good 4x4 specially with the warm winch ! :)
Hello Mustanglx.
Excellent, it looks good and it's eye catching. I might do the same thing but paint mine a silver color to match my Fox shocks.
How do the fox 2.5s ride compared to your revtek set up on the road? and offroad? I have the revtek setup and am contemplating getting fox 2.5s
Hello PhilSiri.
Upgrading to the Fox 2.5 DSC Suspension is a $3500 investment, and that does not include labor. If you install it yourself you still need to have the tools, which will cost around $200 alone. The suspension ride of the REVTEK is similar to stock, the Fox Suspension feels more stiff if you do not weight the truck down with rock sliders, front bumper, rear bumper or canopy. If you are going to upgrade your suspension, I would suggest leaving the stock leaf pack alone. Ride quality improved as I can tune it to whatever driving I was doing on and off road. I would only upgrade if you're committed to owning your truck for a long time. I sold mine for a $200 loose which is extremely rare, I kept everything in pristine condition. You can always do Fox 2.5 coil overs without Resi, and Fox 2.0 in the rear and it'll cost less than half the amount I paid. This way you'll leave your UCA and leaf pack alone saving you money in labor and time. Let me know if you have any questions, I did not see a significant difference on road but a dramatic difference off road. It absorbed a lot of dips and bumps off road which made driving trails a breeze.
@@pentzwerks Hey thanks for the reply! Yes I'm looking at just the Fox 2.5 non resi, and can do the work myself. I already have a 2" add a leaf in the rear with TSB leaf pack. I bought my truck with the revtek already instealled, but the damper recently has started leaking and I wanted to upgrade to something better.
I do drive a significant amount of miles on the road and want to make sure the fox set up is not uncomfortably stiff. I plan to do a UCA regardless but am stuck deciding the fox coilover or an bilstein 5100 with OME lift springs to match my rear lift