Thanks for this, have adjusted my coilovers a few times now. Recently went to 700 lb springs and needed to bring the front down and pulled this video up as a reminder. FWIW, the icon spanner wrench is garbage. I used a 3/8" "extended length" punch from harbor freight with a cheater bar on the end. Turned the coilovers pretty easily. I was taking off preload, rather than adding so adding might be a bit more challenging with the 700 lb springs. Spray the threads down liberally with PB blaster before you start.
I finished my fronts yesterday, and called in and left a message for questions on performing this adjustment with the CDCV resi. Scott called me back and was extremely helpful. I now have front and rear complete, and at stock setup, with the 3" coilovers, I've got a fairly serious rake. Because of the trouble I encountered removing the old components out of the front I had a local 4x4 shop install the rears, and asked them to adjust the fronts for me. They insisted they would have to remove the coilover from the vehicle in order to do it. I said nevermind, I'll handle it. LOL
That's awesome Jon! We're glad that Scott was able to assist you and we'll definitely pass along the kind words. Enjoy your new ICON suspension system!
I should note that I went with ICON for two reasons. I had it narrowed down to either ICON, which I've wanted for a long time, and OME BP-51, as I had the OME 3/2 and it lasted a long time. Also, both companies support my favorite overland RUclips shows. Ultimately, I chose ICON for its support of Expedition Overland, and the adjuster system is more stable. I was too afraid that I would strip the adjuster rings on the BP-51's, even though it seemed pretty cool to have the separate adjustments. Thank you for a great quality product, and for your support of a quality, wholesome, adventurous Expedition Overland team!! Keep up the great work! (Oh, and only ICON looks this good with that Demello 3-hoop :-P )
Just had my ICON stage 5 installed at 4WP. It just BARELY rubs a tiny part of the fender lining (18x9 wheel with a 285/65/18 Ridge Grappler, but nothing major by any means. And the ride quality...wow! It rides great!!!!!! ICON makes some top notch components!!!! EDIT 8.12.19. Installer only had 1 1/4" inches of exposed threads, that's why it was barely rubbing. Took it back and they adjusted the coil overs to have 2" of exposed threads. Now it doesn't rub a bit.
Yes! An alignment is always a good idea after making ride height adjustments to the front of your vehicle. We apologize for not mentioning this in the video.
Justin, there should be no problem adjusting the preload to obtain 3" of lift. You definitely do not want to add a spacer, as increasing the preload does not necessarily lead to negative ride quality. The amount of available 'droop' travel from your ride height will determine how the vehicle will perform, we recommend having AT LEAST 2" of available droop travel from your set ride height. Thanks!
Wanted to piggyback this question... On a 2nd gen Tacoma I'm running the 2.5 resi with 650lbs springs running total chaos uppers. Issue is the ride is pretty harsh on trail... went with 600lbs and it got way too mushy. Is lovering the hight-thus also taking the preload off worth venturing to? Right now the spring is sitting about half on the tread length or about 2 to 2.5 inches threads showing on the top of the shock.
Hi I'm interested in getting 2004-2015 Nissan Titan 0-3" Suspension System with the Dirt King Mid Travel Kit UCA NAD LCA. I'm just wondering how much of a lift will this actually give? like can i expect to be 3inches higher than stock? I'm also looking into getting bigger 34 inch wheels compared to stock.
If I have a stage 5 2-2.5” lift on my F150 and the collar is all the way at the top, does that mean I’m sitting at 2” and could only gain a half an inch by doing this? Would it ride poorly if I made this adjustment and maxed out the coilover?
I have a 2018 tacoma sr5 4x4.. was wondering how many inches of lift can you adjust it to. Would like around 2 an a quarter or 2 half inches up front and would u need new UCA's and or a different drop, aswell as changing the needle bearing?? Thanks
With the proper tools it is a simple task, but if you are unsure we definitely recommend taking them to an authorized ICON service center to have this done.
I have had my Icon stage 5 for 2ish years and love it. I just swapped it over to my 2016 4runner from my 2013 FJ. I want to adjust my coil overs accordingly, but the passenger side adjustment collar is stuck and will not budge and the Icon wrench is starting to strip out the holes, any advice would be so appreciated. I have tried WD-40 etc
Give us a call at 951-689-4266 if you're still having trouble getting the preload adjustment to budge. Also, make sure that the set screw has been loosened!
This might be a silly question... but is there a way to tell if your truck is leaning other than just looking at it? I believe mine has a lean but it could be very minor not a big deal but I would like to hear thoughts or ideas? Thanks
Yes, you can measure from the hub to the fender (as seen at :35 in the video) on both sides and then compare these measurements. If it's leaning then you can turn the adjustment collar to compensate for any inconsistencies.
Awesome video, I’m thinking about adjusting the height on my icon coilovers to .5” or an 1” Is it absolutely necessary to redo my alignment after the height adjustment? I just had them done when I got my icons installed.
Turning the adjuster ring is suuuper difficult. Iike two hands and pulling pretty hard. And I'm seeing a few fine metal shavings coming out the bottom. I have new coilovers that were just put on a few days ago, and just driven around town a bit. Is this just because of some grit in the threads or is it really that hard to turn? Yes, I loosened the set screw :)
Dustin, sorry to hear that you're having difficulty trying to adjust the coil spring preload. Please reach out to ICON's customer support team so that we can help you get this issue resolved ASAP. Thanks! Phone: (951) 689-4266 Email: info@iconvehicledynamics.com
I don't see any options on your site, however I've been told your 3" adjustable coil-overs will fit my 14' Armada. Any help or confirmation would be greatly appreciated.
i was trying to raise the front height on my 16 4Runner, but the reservoir line is in the way of making adjustments. is it possible to adjust the coilover without removing the reservoir? if not, is it okay to remove the line? do you have a video to show this procedure? is there any other precaution i should be aware of? thank you
Nic, while the reservoir hose may slightly cover the preload adjustment collar, it is definitely possible to make adjustments without removing anything. We DO NOT recommend trying to loosen or remove the reservoir as the coilovers are charged (at high PSI) with nitrogen, tampering with the reservoir and/or hose fittings may result in serious injury! If you are unsure of how to perform an adjustment, please contact a professional mechanic or service technician at an authorized ICON dealer. Thank you!
Hey i just bought a set fir my 2016 tacoma but im not sure on what you mean on the 2.13” of preload , is that 2.13” inches or what do you mean by that ?
So if we set pre-load to absolute minimum (just enough to keep the spring from moving at full extension) will that result in the best ride quality? Or is it good to shoot for 50/50 bump/droop?
Every vehicle and setup is different so it's really hard to provide an accurate answer without seeing the vehicle firsthand. Generally speaking, 60/40 bump/droop is a good ratio to shoot for, although shock valving, spring rates, drivetrain configurations, and vehicle weight will all come into play when striving for that perfect setup.
@@iconvehicledynamicstv thank you. I see a lot of suspension reviews with very strong opinions but most don’t discuss what they set for pre-load. Many don’t even discuss other mods that affect handling and ride quality 🙁
c bro Depending on how much preload there is you can, but I definitely recommend getting the weight off of the suspension first. It will make the whole process a lot easier.
Increasing the preload WILL change the way the vehicle rides at the extremes of adjustment, and this is why we recommend taking measurements to be sure you have enough droop travel available for optimum ride quality. We list the recommended amount of droop travel in the product instructions for each application.
Ok. For example I just installed Stage 2 on my 2012 4runner trail with KDSS and I increased the preload to reduce rake, or get the vehicle a little more level. I did this solely for aesthetic reasons and my droop is now 2.5in. Would I get better ride quality if returned the preload to your factory settings thus giving me more droop? Thanks for replying!
Thanks for this, have adjusted my coilovers a few times now. Recently went to 700 lb springs and needed to bring the front down and pulled this video up as a reminder. FWIW, the icon spanner wrench is garbage. I used a 3/8" "extended length" punch from harbor freight with a cheater bar on the end. Turned the coilovers pretty easily. I was taking off preload, rather than adding so adding might be a bit more challenging with the 700 lb springs. Spray the threads down liberally with PB blaster before you start.
I finished my fronts yesterday, and called in and left a message for questions on performing this adjustment with the CDCV resi. Scott called me back and was extremely helpful. I now have front and rear complete, and at stock setup, with the 3" coilovers, I've got a fairly serious rake. Because of the trouble I encountered removing the old components out of the front I had a local 4x4 shop install the rears, and asked them to adjust the fronts for me. They insisted they would have to remove the coilover from the vehicle in order to do it. I said nevermind, I'll handle it. LOL
was able to adjust mine in 20 minutes. Now that I've done it, it's really a great system.
That's awesome Jon! We're glad that Scott was able to assist you and we'll definitely pass along the kind words. Enjoy your new ICON suspension system!
I should note that I went with ICON for two reasons. I had it narrowed down to either ICON, which I've wanted for a long time, and OME BP-51, as I had the OME 3/2 and it lasted a long time. Also, both companies support my favorite overland RUclips shows. Ultimately, I chose ICON for its support of Expedition Overland, and the adjuster system is more stable. I was too afraid that I would strip the adjuster rings on the BP-51's, even though it seemed pretty cool to have the separate adjustments. Thank you for a great quality product, and for your support of a quality, wholesome, adventurous Expedition Overland team!! Keep up the great work! (Oh, and only ICON looks this good with that Demello 3-hoop :-P )
This is why I went icon on both my trucks... thanks for the videos no more binding
Just did this. Another good trick to add, is to spray the thread and top of the spring with some WD40 first. Difference is night and day.
Just had my ICON stage 5 installed at 4WP. It just BARELY rubs a tiny part of the fender lining (18x9 wheel with a 285/65/18 Ridge Grappler, but nothing major by any means. And the ride quality...wow! It rides great!!!!!! ICON makes some top notch components!!!! EDIT 8.12.19. Installer only had 1 1/4" inches of exposed threads, that's why it was barely rubbing. Took it back and they adjusted the coil overs to have 2" of exposed threads. Now it doesn't rub a bit.
Just curious, what kind of truck?
It was good talking to Scott at ICON today about a couple of questions I had on adjusting the shocks.
Its Vids like this why I'm going to buy ICON setup :)
Great video. You really broke it down well. Thank you!
After adjustment will an alignment be required at all?
Yes! An alignment is always a good idea after making ride height adjustments to the front of your vehicle. We apologize for not mentioning this in the video.
Did you say usually 4 turns = 1/2 inch?
Justin, there should be no problem adjusting the preload to obtain 3" of lift. You definitely do not want to add a spacer, as increasing the preload does not necessarily lead to negative ride quality. The amount of available 'droop' travel from your ride height will determine how the vehicle will perform, we recommend having AT LEAST 2" of available droop travel from your set ride height. Thanks!
Wanted to piggyback this question... On a 2nd gen Tacoma I'm running the 2.5 resi with 650lbs springs running total chaos uppers. Issue is the ride is pretty harsh on trail... went with 600lbs and it got way too mushy. Is lovering the hight-thus also taking the preload off worth venturing to? Right now the spring is sitting about half on the tread length or about 2 to 2.5 inches threads showing on the top of the shock.
Awesome video! Just waiting on my stage 2 Toyota system, can"t wait to get it on my truck!
Can you just adjust these before you install them?
Off subject of the video, but, just put my icon rear 2" lift coil springs in and was wondering what the settling time is?
It seems like my shocks are turning when trying to lower the coilovers. Any advise would be great
Hi I'm interested in getting 2004-2015 Nissan Titan 0-3" Suspension System with the Dirt King Mid Travel Kit UCA NAD LCA. I'm just wondering how much of a lift will this actually give? like can i expect to be 3inches higher than stock? I'm also looking into getting bigger 34 inch wheels compared to stock.
Are the springs supposed to turn also?
Will doing this adjustment require an alignment?
Does any of the stage comes with the tease spacer?
Wish i had a set on my car to adjust..😍❤️they are amazing suspension👍🏻 loved the video! Keep up the good work!
If I have a stage 5 2-2.5” lift on my F150 and the collar is all the way at the top, does that mean I’m sitting at 2” and could only gain a half an inch by doing this? Would it ride poorly if I made this adjustment and maxed out the coilover?
Very helpful, thanks
So maximum is if the threads showing at the top are past that measurement correct?
I have a 2018 tacoma sr5 4x4.. was wondering how many inches of lift can you adjust it to. Would like around 2 an a quarter or 2 half inches up front and would u need new UCA's and or a different drop, aswell as changing the needle bearing?? Thanks
Is it easy to remove and install the front springs to have them powder coated?
With the proper tools it is a simple task, but if you are unsure we definitely recommend taking them to an authorized ICON service center to have this done.
I have a 4.25 in suspension lift could these add on to level the front
Do you need to re-align the vehicle after every adjustment?
What is stage 4 factory pre
Load settings? My thread 2” showing. My ride little stiff. My tire size 285/70/75. What is best pre load settings?
Guess you didnt watch the video. :P
these videos are great, thanks for posting
4 turn (cranks) or 4 full revolutions will give a half an inch?
Can someone clarify preset height is 2" or 2.5" for Ram 1500?
is it a full turn or half turn ?
When are you guys putting out the titan half ton lifts?
When it full droop my uca is touching the coilover. Is this normal?
I have had my Icon stage 5 for 2ish years and love it. I just swapped it over to my 2016 4runner from my 2013 FJ. I want to adjust my coil overs accordingly, but the passenger side adjustment collar is stuck and will not budge and the Icon wrench is starting to strip out the holes, any advice would be so appreciated. I have tried WD-40 etc
Give us a call at 951-689-4266 if you're still having trouble getting the preload adjustment to budge. Also, make sure that the set screw has been loosened!
thanks. Resolved the issue myself. Bought new collars and swapped them out.
This might be a silly question... but is there a way to tell if your truck is leaning other than just looking at it? I believe mine has a lean but it could be very minor not a big deal but I would like to hear thoughts or ideas? Thanks
Yes, you can measure from the hub to the fender (as seen at :35 in the video) on both sides and then compare these measurements. If it's leaning then you can turn the adjustment collar to compensate for any inconsistencies.
Awesome video, I’m thinking about adjusting the height on my icon coilovers to .5” or an 1” Is it absolutely necessary to redo my alignment after the height adjustment? I just had them done when I got my icons installed.
yes anytime you change height you have to re align because the angles are different
Turning the adjuster ring is suuuper difficult. Iike two hands and pulling pretty hard. And I'm seeing a few fine metal shavings coming out the bottom. I have new coilovers that were just put on a few days ago, and just driven around town a bit. Is this just because of some grit in the threads or is it really that hard to turn? Yes, I loosened the set screw :)
Dustin, sorry to hear that you're having difficulty trying to adjust the coil spring preload. Please reach out to ICON's customer support team so that we can help you get this issue resolved ASAP. Thanks! Phone: (951) 689-4266 Email: info@iconvehicledynamics.com
I don't see any options on your site, however I've been told your 3" adjustable coil-overs will fit my 14' Armada. Any help or confirmation would be greatly appreciated.
just select the Titan coilovers...exact same
i was trying to raise the front height on my 16 4Runner, but the reservoir line is in the way of making adjustments. is it possible to adjust the coilover without removing the reservoir? if not, is it okay to remove the line? do you have a video to show this procedure? is there any other precaution i should be aware of? thank you
Nic, while the reservoir hose may slightly cover the preload adjustment collar, it is definitely possible to make adjustments without removing anything. We DO NOT recommend trying to loosen or remove the reservoir as the coilovers are charged (at high PSI) with nitrogen, tampering with the reservoir and/or hose fittings may result in serious injury! If you are unsure of how to perform an adjustment, please contact a professional mechanic or service technician at an authorized ICON dealer. Thank you!
good instructions 4 turns is 1/2" ride ht change, ck.
Hey i just bought a set fir my 2016 tacoma but im not sure on what you mean on the 2.13” of preload , is that 2.13” inches or what do you mean by that ?
The 2.13” is referring to exposed threads after adjustment.
How about the rear?
Do you need to lift the frame up to adjust the height
Yes, the wheels should be off the ground to relieve the coilovers of vehicles weight
So if we set pre-load to absolute minimum (just enough to keep the spring from moving at full extension) will that result in the best ride quality? Or is it good to shoot for 50/50 bump/droop?
Every vehicle and setup is different so it's really hard to provide an accurate answer without seeing the vehicle firsthand. Generally speaking, 60/40 bump/droop is a good ratio to shoot for, although shock valving, spring rates, drivetrain configurations, and vehicle weight will all come into play when striving for that perfect setup.
@@iconvehicledynamicstv thank you. I see a lot of suspension reviews with very strong opinions but most don’t discuss what they set for pre-load. Many don’t even discuss other mods that affect handling and ride quality 🙁
If you have the shocks set at one point and then later you raise the suspension, is an alignment required or at least recommended?
Havoc7991s yes get allignment.
I love my icon on my fj cruiser.
Can I adjust the coilovers if the truck is still on the ground?
c bro Depending on how much preload there is you can, but I definitely recommend getting the weight off of the suspension first. It will make the whole process a lot easier.
ok thank you.
Can I reduce the preload on one side to level out lean? Instead of adding preload on the leaning side?
Yes! That is a great way to level the truck from side to side while maintaining excellent ride quality.
I am a wimp, please make an extension for the wrench.
Yeah it gets pretty stiff when you approach the max preload setting.
Awesome! 😎👍
When you turn clockwise you add preload and lift the vehicle higher, but does the ring go down or up?
The ring will be going "down" the shock body
Will increasing preload be detrimental to ride quality? I would think it would stiffen the suspension.
Increasing the preload WILL change the way the vehicle rides at the extremes of adjustment, and this is why we recommend taking measurements to be sure you have enough droop travel available for optimum ride quality. We list the recommended amount of droop travel in the product instructions for each application.
Ok. For example I just installed Stage 2 on my 2012 4runner trail with KDSS and I increased the preload to reduce rake, or get the vehicle a little more level. I did this solely for aesthetic reasons and my droop is now 2.5in. Would I get better ride quality if returned the preload to your factory settings thus giving me more droop? Thanks for replying!
probably would matter for off road/trails for sure but if you're running mostly even highways probably much much difference.
Damm. No spring clamps needed?
Nope!
Helpful for rasers;-)♧
Spray the threads with WD40 it will help out
He didn't wan to say the maximum height
A shop wants to charge $300 for this lol
Height not heighth
Don’t try this with kings