Both top trucks for the money. Things to consider with the MT10 though... It's about £50 Cheaper (or more)... it has sway bars, and not sure I heard you mention, or whether you knew...but it has 3 diffs 😉👌.
True the rival does have sway bars, and no i didn't spot it had a center diff, makes it an even better deal. Was super super impressed with the Rival that is for sure - i actually think its the bargain of the year
I've had mine since March took more abuse than anything else in my collection. It's by far the best the in class (out of box durability wise) as far as 3S capable 10th scale MT's go. Surprising for an OEM, tbf, but apparently the Helion was just as good. Not sure AE have 'improved' anything though, I see a slightly different rear wheelie bar design and some stuff annodised in blue. I've set about building a second one with all uprated parts :D
I broke my a arm within the first 15mins of bashing☹️ got rpm’s on there now also my esc unstuck. One of the pins that go through the arms bent, I did land a dodgy back flip though. I do enjoy the truck, but my big rock is much better in my opinion.
I would say the associated by far actual real diffs the arrma plastic diffs garbage they last for a while but once they strip it seems to have nothing but problems after
Rival all the way! I have the V3 Granite BLX and it was fine at the beginning, but the slipper gets problematic with time. From what I've seen, the MT10 is better in every way, including the center diff 👍
I have to say.. I'm impressed it did not break that front skid plate at the bell cranks.. maybe they got the plastics better then when it was a helion.. 👍.. I will have to tell my buddy to buy the TA parts
I was worried after your comments, but it took everything we threw at it, apart from the wheelie bar, but that was a big hot so wont moan about that. Think they likely using better quality plastics now
I love my Granite. I did a 1900kv 4S on mine. Same motor and esc as the lasernut. With Hotracing diffs and driveshafts. M2C 17mm hex kit. It's my favorite out all my 10th scales. I really don't run the 10th scales much anymore. Having tons of fun with all my 5th scales at the moment.
Thanks - its a great truck, my only regret is not getting one sooner 👍 i was going to get the Helion Avenge MT10 2 years ago, but bought a Kraton 6s instead.
Fitting the rear wing really helps protect the back, also makes it look great as well - i did a video on how to fit it: ruclips.net/video/Xf_mK0D9GZ4/видео.html
I bought this and bashed it on 2S. Way too fast! Total blast!The front a-arm snapped. Buy the RPM #72062 arm now before they snap and break the arm and bend the pin. Pins are 3mm x 54mm. Those are backorderd all over the planet. And hose it down with MO94! Way more flexibility!
Loving this truck and thank you for the donation which help to buy it 👍 only managed to break the rear wheelie bar and a turn buckle rod end, looks like the Arrma 3s one fit there 👍 thanks for the info on the arms. could you not just use HSS 3mm rods and cut to size for the hinge pins ? cheaper and stronger than stock www.ebay.co.uk/itm/222453717137?hash=item33cb465891:g:~lIAAOSw889d53J2
Can't get the Rival down under so I'm stuck with my Arrmas ... lucky for me :) I've got those same Granite tyres on my Big Rock making it the best of the BLX 3s range. The Arrma 3s ecosystem is so varied with short and long wheelbase, short and long arms etc it can't be beaten IMO. Thanks for another great Hardcore Video.
@@craigcartwright6543 No cheaper than a locally bought Arrma here in NZ even if I got it off ebay. Shipping and GST kill it. Better to stick to the LHS here.
That's a shame, but i do know how that feels, lots of cars we see and would like and they never come to the UK. Wise move putting the Granite tires on the Big Rock as those stock tires suck, the better tires really finish the Big rock off in my opinion
Yes this is gonna be awesome!!!! I keep asking my hobby shop to bring these in. Maybe I’ll just have to order one after this video. Pretty impressive but honestly now I’m just even more impressed with the 3s Arrma lineup. They both took some serious abuse. Great run and awesome comparison so far. I need to see on a dry day then I’ll decide. I have the Big Rock do I need another Arrma 3s? Wait of course I don’t need it do I want it? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 👊👊👍👍
Thanks - in fairness the Granite isn't stock, it has RPM arms and big bore shocks, Rival was straight out the box. But the granite is super tough stock due to its short chassis and A Arms over the Bog Rock. Your Model shop is missing out not stocking the Rival, show them this video and change their minds 😂
Great comparison video. I love my rival mt10. Upgraded the control arms with the RPM made sets. Also upped to aluminum shocks and metal drivelines . Pretty solid all around basher imo.
@@HardcoreRC Totally understood. I got lucky and found mine on a auction site, paid $200 u.s. I ordered the outcast last night from that site but we'll see if it actually shows up lol. Cheers!
I think you have just proven a point for me. The punishment you put that through and it took it. I went about 4ft off the ground and it snapped the Chassis... 😂🤣. Brilliant truck though. The granite is a little more stable than the Rival but for the price it's brilliant.
You went 4ft off ground and snapped chassis on the Rival ? can only think it was defective we have give our one some real abuse and only did the wheelie bar from a real bad hard landing
@@HardcoreRC exactly. Neither the shop or Team Associated were interested. Now i have rebuilt it though it is awesome. My wife has the grantie too so ive seen the comparison first hand.
@@adrianpilbeam7403 That's a shame, must have been defective if all ok now, that or just a funny bad landing that stressed it in a perfect way to break
You should love it as a great car, just bought another Team Associated Car as well - really likely what they are making and their pricing is great as well
Thank you so much for letting me know that this is the same truck as the helion avenge I own one and love it but I broke an a arm and wasnt able to find the part and thanks to you I did. (: Im happy now
Epic video guys, bashing the Hardcore way like MEN in the rain living your best RC basher lives, Hats of to you boys always producing brilliant epic content 👍😉👌
Thanks - we got proper wet on this one, but needed to give you guys some content 😂 plus it was a blast with the Rival, such a great RC. Also had to keep Kev's fan entertained with their challenges 😂😂
I think the granite is ace Ive just fitted big rock arms and turn buckles on my sons Alot better now Hardly tips Different truck completely 👍✌️great vid
Another Great vid guys! :) looking forward to the next one. But I just got 2 more cars over the weekend to race on two different tracks around here.. 1/10 & 1/8 .. so please stop tempting me with more :P
@@HardcoreRC Yeah it's a beast! a small light basher would be a nice change from a big heavy one.. Picking up tomorrow 2nd hand but they look very nicely maintained compared to others I've seen and the 4x4 slash I got. Tried to get stuff they use at the tracks I went too. Avoided a buggy originally as had that style when a kid but is what most people race, So got a 1/8 Serpent Cobra 2.0 with nice esc, motor and remote that's compatible with Kraton so can ditch the rtr one. Plus parts and a clear body for as much as the kit costs by itself and similar situation with a SCT Losi 1/10 2wd which is common style at the other smaller track down the road. So should be very differnt than current one's :)
I would still say the Rival MT10 due to its better durability, center diff, sway bars etc, although will also depend on what parts availability is like where you are
We have the New Kraton 4s coming, but the size difference between the new 4s cars and the Rival is huge, the new 4s cars are pretty much the same size as the 1/8th cars.
RPM make arms, and then there's all the left over Helion parts, couple that with AE 'supporting it', this mean you'll be able to get parts for a good time to come but you may also find yourself 'waiting' for stuff as AE take forever sometimes.
Have to live up top our name 😂😂 in the Uk i would say the spares support is better than Arrma or Traxxas currently, for 3rd party support, outside of the RPM A-Arms i really dont see what else it needs. Stock radio does look a bit cheap but had no issues with it, just your run of the mill RTR radio really - certainly better than a Dx2 😂😂
That was a great comparison. The Rival took some really hard hits over and over. I want a tough 1/10 basher that is easy to work on and has cheap and available parts. Now I don't know which to choose. 🤪 Round 2?
Thanks for the donation that helped to buy this truck 👍 the Rival is seriously good, i haven't had to work on it yet so cant comment on that side, but it looks easy enough to work on, also comes with a center diff vs a slipper clutch. Granite in this video did have some upgrades in RPM arms and big bore shocks, the Rival was right out the box. Have a second video im editing currently checking speeds and also i get to drive it - can it be dad proof 😂
I'm trying to decide if I should get a Granite or MT10...thought this video would help. Only thing this video did was let me know both are great bashers and I still dont know which one I want to get.😅 Great video I really enjoyed it!
LOL, yes they are both great bashers and you will be happy with either. It would really come down to price and spare parts availability where you are. In the UK i would edge towards the MT10 more as its still a fair bit cheaper than the Granite, in the USA though they are closer priced so it then just spares and your preference. Durability wise the MT10 is tougher
@HardcoreRC , I'm leaning towards the Granite due to the parts availability. Arrma products are popular in my area so the local hobby shop has a lot of parts for the Arrma vehicles. Prices are very similar. I also like the way the Granite (and apparently most of the Arrma vehicles) is built in modules...seems like they were built with ease of repair and service in mind. Thanks for the response. Just found your channel. Definitely gonna check out more of your library.
@@Captain_Yodelstein Spares availability is a key reason on what car to get, the Granite is a very good car, was the first Arrma we bought and still a firm favourite. Hope you like the channel, been a bit quite on videos currently as real life work has been crazy busy so not getting the time to edit and the weather has been shocking
Durability wise i would have to give it to the MT10, its just tougher over all. Both great cars though and which ever someone buys they will not be disappointed
@@HardcoreRC do you have a favorite toughest 1/8 scale? I admit the granite needs its slipper set and maybe loc tited and it’s been great other then tires!
That little truck is like a miniatures Redcat KAIJU. I have a couple of Kaijus with some tweaks that are very tough and durable for my kind of bashing. Great video as usual 👍👍. There's a little dude about my son's age (5 years old) driving around. Hehe. That's awesome 🤣
Yeah these are great truck, cant get the Kaiju over in the UK 😥 yeah we normally have some young kids that come out with their dads as well, so good to see them driving around at such a young age
@@joseCalderon1976 yeah that's why i let me boys do most of the driving now, when i drive it normally starts to get expensive 😂😂 great to get them involved at a young age
MT10 for me. I think the Granite had a better driver and wasn't subjected to as much damage. Just my observation and absolutely no disrespect for either of the two young men.
Thank you for watching and no disrespect taken at all, makes a nice change to have people actually concerned about things being taken the wrong way on social media, if only everyone was so polite, so i take my hat of to you for that 👍 i would agree the MT10 is the better car, do like the Granite, its just the MT10 is better and cheaper in the UK as well
Pulling my hair out tring to pick out a 3s truck around $550usd. Redcat mt10e. Or big rock v3 or Traxxas hoss this team associated truck you showing here.. landslide looks nice... want something that can take abuse and also be in the 40-50mph range
Dont have a Redcat or the Hoss, but out of the Bigrock and Rival MT 10 i would recommend the Rival MT10, its more durable, comes with way bars, center diff and lights
@HardcoreRC also looking at the Granite everyone swear bye it. From my research the center diff is a selling point for a lot of trucks so is accessibility to upgrade swap replace parts. 🤔 the hoss has all that but is slower than almost any other 3s 1/10 truck trying to find a middle ground any 3s truck you have $550 dont have any other rcs what you buying today? (550 for truck ,battery and charger )
@@miguel360kmc Only real difference between the Bigrock and Granite is the chassis lenght and tires, i prefer the Granite out of those two, mainly as i dont like the stock BigRock tires. Personally as long as spares are available i would get the Rival MT10, its just the best all round package and value. Everyone i know that has one or has tried one swears by them
He does have a distinctive laugh, i can understand a lot about ordering a car will come down to parts availability, nothing worse then having a car you cant fix , had that issue with my Kronos XRT sat on shelf of 6 months as couldn't get the parts
It looks really oddly like a stampede? Things you get with the mt10 for less money: good balanced tires that grip and don't blow apart or come unglued, a center diff, axles that don't blow apart, bigger bearings, aluminum motor mount, threaded shocks that don't blow apart, adjustable turnbuckles, lights, better radio, wheelie bar that doesn't fall off, good steering servo, better handling, aluminum wheel hexes? Anyone wanna buy my stampede so I can buy an mt10? Lol
@@380shortfuse If i had to pick one - oh thats so hard, they are both very good, so it would really come down to personal choice on looks and cost - which ever you go for i really dont think you will be disappointed
Im going to be doing a view on that soon, but the Maxx is a lot bigger than both the Granite and Rival, the Maxx is pretty much same size the a Amrra Notorious
I did think about it, but the max is way bigger, i dont really class it as a 1/10th, with the wide max kit on its pretty much the same size as the Arrma Notorious. and costs twice as much as a Granite and almost 3 times as much as the Rival 😲 Maxx is a great truck though
If i was choosing between the two and could only get one - it would be the Rival MT10, love the Granite but cant ignore the price difference, centre diff and lights
@@HardcoreRC actually here in Canada the mt10 is 2 dollars more than the granite at 420 canadian doll hairs. Plus i would rather have the team associated sr10, what a beast you fellas should get your hands on one of those. It looks like an old Monte Carlo.
@@WoodsUnknown Wow that price surprises me, looks like you get a far better price on Arrma than we do, the Rival is about the same on conversion, but the Granite in the UK is CAD 574. Just bought a DR10 😎😎
Not really as the Big Rock ha a longer wheel base, also in the UK the Rival MT10 is only $375 where as the Big Rock and Granite are $466 The main things though is that the Rival MT is more durable and also comes with a center diff, don't forget the lights as well 😂😂
@@HardcoreRC ok from that point of view you are right. I like Team Associate, I had in a long time ago an TA B4 Stealth 2 WD Buggy for racing on a track, that was nice. The time without all of the amazing brushless power :) Now I want to buy a basher for the city, skatepark etc. (for my little son and me). It should be not too fast but fast enough that I became a little smile and I want tuning parts, I like to change parts to upgrade the rc car. I know it is expensiv and not really needful. The TA MT10 sounds good, but I want to check all altnatives incl. spare parts accessability in my country (Vienna/Austria(Kuhlimuhs)).
@@realgweep Yes deffo check for parts availability and price, the TA MT10 is by far the most durable in our view, but the Amrra 3s line are also very good, and were our top 3s basher before we tried the MT10
@@HardcoreRC Thank you for your tips. I will check it out. I also look at the Arrma Vortex, but I'm not sure if it is really good to have so much speed. It sounds good, but a better control of the car is more useful than speed. On youtube i've seen the rc cars rollover every time on high speed. They run allways out of control. More rollover, more coast of spare parts :)
Indeed - all the Arrma 3s cars are good, but the Rival is just as good and cheaper, plus comes with sway bars and a center diff - oh and did i mention the lights 😂😂
I bought this Rival MT10 after watching this video on Sunday night and it arrived today. After 5mins of use, its making aloud noise when on full lock to the left. Any ideas what it could be. It's brand new so can't imagine it should be making this noise, was fine turning right and driving. Thank you. Keep up the good work 👏
first thing i would check is your end points, make sure when turning to the left the servo isn't straining and trying to pull the steering past when it ends
Yep have to say the rival bang for the buck cant be beat i don't think, normally when i watch and comment on a giveaway i say if i won pass it on to someone else, but om Tomley one for the Rival i also wanted to win it 😂😂
Hehe, its either that or just not get to play, its pretty much rained every single day this summer bar i think 2 weeks when the sun decided to come out and play
Big Rock is similar to the Granite, but just a tad longer and wider, but has shockingly bad stock tires, Big Rock is actually the same as a Typhon apart from the body, hex size and wheels
@@HardcoreRC thanks, trying to get back into the hobby and haven't decided what to get yet. Haven't had a hobby grade RC in 20 years. The videos are great . Looking at 1/10 scale mainly ...possibly a 1/8 Kraton EXB but can't decide.
@@seanlawrence972 My suggestion would be to start with a good 1/10th scale and get used to driving and jumping it with the air control, then step up to a 1/8th scale 6s car. this shows the main arrma 3s cars next to each other: ruclips.net/video/8kRIQeyqvQ8/видео.html I am super impressed with the Rival MT10 as well, bang for your buck dont think you can beat it
It does look good on paper, the real test will be when it arrives, if its as good as the MT10 then they are on to a winner, although that is 1/8th scale
I like the Granite by looks etc but I've raced Team Associated for a while I know they make good stuff but that was a long time ago so I don't know about now I'm going to go with the Granite hehe edit And we have a tie 😂🔥👍 The T A took some hard hits I couldn't believe it took all those hard impacts and drove away and the Granite wasn't no chump by no means If I could only have 1 I'd go with the Granite it's a bit more stable In my opinion it would make a better race truck and I'm all about racing lol Great vid guy's definitely need to have a rematch when the weather clears up 😂🔥👍✌️
Its a tough call, love them both, but think the Rival MT10 pipps it, it comes with sway bars, center diff and light s and is £50 cheaper. I also forgot to mention the Granite has upgrades in RPM arms and big bore shocks, Granit is still a great truck stock though
@@HardcoreRC Theirs plenty of vids on the Kaiju breaking pretty easy, Rcunexttuesday has a Kaiju that they broke to easy a few times. Ask them about their experience with their Kaiju, on the other hand they to loved their Rival MT10 & thought it one of the toughest 1/10 trucks.
@@gillian9178 I did wonder what happened to RCu's Kaiju, saw them run it once and it break, then waiting for parts as cant get in the UK, guess its not bee out since. Rival is a beast, punching way above its price point that is for sure
Not in most countries outside the USA. Granite is $492 in the UK vs MT10 at $375 Amain Hobbies in the USA have them both at the same price Also doesnt distract from the simple fact the MT10 is far better, more durable, center diff, lights, metal diffs gears, sway bars to name a few bits
Granite over the BigRock? 😳 I know obviously you couldn’t use the RoadRock 😁🤘🏼 the Associate is taking enormous abuse for the money that’s got to be a win either way 😎
Not convinced on the Big Rock, hence we turned it into a speed runner. the stock tires just suck so bad on it and no different to a Typhon 3s really. Its a good car but need to change the tires so that adds to overall cost
@@HardcoreRC everybody has there own opinion I believe it's 3s king on durability. And when you guys going get one of those carbon fiber chassis , it's a excellent product check them out I know for a fact you'd be able to get more height and speed on that long jump. You got 80ft to beat 😉
@@BNIRc Dont get me wrong the Big Rock is very good, just the stock tires suck, its also the same as the Typhon bar the body and hex size, all the Arrma 3s cars are good as all based on same platform. Love the look of that Carbon chassis but wont be spending £250 for it (which is how much it would cost to buy, ship and pay the import on for it)
@@BNIRc If could get for $150 and didnt have the M2C chassis already probably would have considered it, but to get to UK including shipping and import tax/duty it would be pushing close to $400
What would you call normal use ? no offense but, curious who you think would watch a video of an RC car driving round a field or doing little jumps for me to then spend 20 plus hours to create the video and earn £10 from 🤷♂️🤷♂️
Both top trucks for the money. Things to consider with the MT10 though... It's about £50 Cheaper (or more)... it has sway bars, and not sure I heard you mention, or whether you knew...but it has 3 diffs 😉👌.
True the rival does have sway bars, and no i didn't spot it had a center diff, makes it an even better deal. Was super super impressed with the Rival that is for sure - i actually think its the bargain of the year
@@HardcoreRC Certainly is a lot of truck for the money. Took me quite some abuse to break an A Arm.
I've had mine since March took more abuse than anything else in my collection. It's by far the best the in class (out of box durability wise) as far as 3S capable 10th scale MT's go.
Surprising for an OEM, tbf, but apparently the Helion was just as good.
Not sure AE have 'improved' anything though, I see a slightly different rear wheelie bar design and some stuff annodised in blue.
I've set about building a second one with all uprated parts :D
I broke my a arm within the first 15mins of bashing☹️ got rpm’s on there now also my esc unstuck. One of the pins that go through the arms bent, I did land a dodgy back flip though. I do enjoy the truck, but my big rock is much better in my opinion.
I would say the associated by far actual real diffs the arrma plastic diffs garbage they last for a while but once they strip it seems to have nothing but problems after
Rival all the way! I have the V3 Granite BLX and it was fine at the beginning, but the slipper gets problematic with time. From what I've seen, the MT10 is better in every way, including the center diff 👍
Yeah the Rival is very very good, lots cheaper then the Granite in the UK, more durable, center diff and has lights - win win really
I have to say.. I'm impressed it did not break that front skid plate at the bell cranks.. maybe they got the plastics better then when it was a helion.. 👍..
I will have to tell my buddy to buy the TA parts
I was worried after your comments, but it took everything we threw at it, apart from the wheelie bar, but that was a big hot so wont moan about that. Think they likely using better quality plastics now
I love my Granite. I did a 1900kv 4S on mine. Same motor and esc as the lasernut. With Hotracing diffs and driveshafts. M2C 17mm hex kit. It's my favorite out all my 10th scales. I really don't run the 10th scales much anymore. Having tons of fun with all my 5th scales at the moment.
Hehe same, 5th scale are just so much fun, still like the 10th scale for the skate parks though
For £50 cheaper I'd go for the Rival mt10. Definitely a car that can't be ignored!
Yep i cant argue with you, for the price its hard to ignore
I was eyeing the Rival the other day at my local hobby shop... I may actually pick this one up! Great video!!
Thanks - its a great truck, my only regret is not getting one sooner 👍 i was going to get the Helion Avenge MT10 2 years ago, but bought a Kraton 6s instead.
i have the granite and absolutely love it i might consider the outcast wing because the body keeps cracking in the back
Fitting the rear wing really helps protect the back, also makes it look great as well - i did a video on how to fit it: ruclips.net/video/Xf_mK0D9GZ4/видео.html
The Rival is brilliant. I love mine. Put some Proline 2.8 Trenchers on it and it turns nasty.
Yep they are very very good cars, and for the money dont think they can be beaten
I bought this and bashed it on 2S. Way too fast! Total blast!The front a-arm snapped. Buy the RPM #72062 arm now before they snap and break the arm and bend the pin. Pins are 3mm x 54mm. Those are backorderd all over the planet. And hose it down with MO94! Way more flexibility!
Loving this truck and thank you for the donation which help to buy it 👍 only managed to break the rear wheelie bar and a turn buckle rod end, looks like the Arrma 3s one fit there 👍 thanks for the info on the arms. could you not just use HSS 3mm rods and cut to size for the hinge pins ? cheaper and stronger than stock www.ebay.co.uk/itm/222453717137?hash=item33cb465891:g:~lIAAOSw889d53J2
@@HardcoreRC Yes a 3mm drill rod or dowel pin works. I ordered 3mm x 60mm pins. 316 stainless, titanium or any alloy steel will do.
Can't get the Rival down under so I'm stuck with my Arrmas ... lucky for me :) I've got those same Granite tyres on my Big Rock making it the best of the BLX 3s range. The Arrma 3s ecosystem is so varied with short and long wheelbase, short and long arms etc it can't be beaten IMO. Thanks for another great Hardcore Video.
Brought my of ebay delivered to Australia 🇦🇺
@@craigcartwright6543 No cheaper than a locally bought Arrma here in NZ even if I got it off ebay. Shipping and GST kill it. Better to stick to the LHS here.
That's a shame, but i do know how that feels, lots of cars we see and would like and they never come to the UK. Wise move putting the Granite tires on the Big Rock as those stock tires suck, the better tires really finish the Big rock off in my opinion
Yes this is gonna be awesome!!!! I keep asking my hobby shop to bring these in. Maybe I’ll just have to order one after this video. Pretty impressive but honestly now I’m just even more impressed with the 3s Arrma lineup. They both took some serious abuse. Great run and awesome comparison so far. I need to see on a dry day then I’ll decide. I have the Big Rock do I need another Arrma 3s? Wait of course I don’t need it do I want it? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 👊👊👍👍
Thanks - in fairness the Granite isn't stock, it has RPM arms and big bore shocks, Rival was straight out the box. But the granite is super tough stock due to its short chassis and A Arms over the Bog Rock. Your Model shop is missing out not stocking the Rival, show them this video and change their minds 😂
Great comparison video. I love my rival mt10. Upgraded the control arms with the RPM made sets. Also upped to aluminum shocks and metal drivelines . Pretty solid all around basher imo.
Its a great all round basher, and very good price, especially as the Arrma Granite has just gone up in price again
@@HardcoreRC Wow again? Glad I got my vorteks when it was on sale. Great content on your channel, subscribed.👍
@@ADITADDICTS Thanks for the sub 👍👍 wanted a Vorteks, but just can bring myself to pay the $574 it costs in the UK
@@HardcoreRC Totally understood. I got lucky and found mine on a auction site, paid $200 u.s.
I ordered the outcast last night from that site but we'll see if it actually shows up lol. Cheers!
Your channel is doing great and keep up the amazing work and you’ll soon be at 10k 👍
I think you have just proven a point for me. The punishment you put that through and it took it. I went about 4ft off the ground and it snapped the Chassis... 😂🤣. Brilliant truck though. The granite is a little more stable than the Rival but for the price it's brilliant.
You went 4ft off ground and snapped chassis on the Rival ? can only think it was defective we have give our one some real abuse and only did the wheelie bar from a real bad hard landing
@@HardcoreRC exactly. Neither the shop or Team Associated were interested. Now i have rebuilt it though it is awesome. My wife has the grantie too so ive seen the comparison first hand.
@@adrianpilbeam7403 That's a shame, must have been defective if all ok now, that or just a funny bad landing that stressed it in a perfect way to break
I will be picking up a Rival in the next couple weeks. Also eying the team associated trophy rat.
You should love it as a great car, just bought another Team Associated Car as well - really likely what they are making and their pricing is great as well
Great Vid Guys !
The MT10 took it really well 👌
Thanks - loving the MT10
I knew the Mt10 could take a beating but blimey that was a proper one ahahaha. Definitely one to add to my collection soon. Great video Sir 💪🙏
Even i was surprised how well it did, in horrible weather as well
Great video some hardcore stuff right there. In the crappy weather and all.
Thank you so much for letting me know that this is the same truck as the helion avenge I own one and love it but I broke an a arm and wasnt able to find the part and thanks to you I did. (: Im happy now
Thats ok - great truck and as you now know you can get spares 👍👍 glad we could help and thank you for watching 👍👍
I'm so glad you did this comparison video 👍🏽💪🏽💯
Little behind, but just ordered an MT10. Gonna have to see how tough it is for myself, lol. 👍
Its never too late 👍👍 hope you find as tough as everyone we know that has one, definitely our favorite 3s basher
Mt10 all the way great looking car 👌
Agreed!
Epic video guys, bashing the Hardcore way like MEN in the rain living your best RC basher lives, Hats of to you boys always producing brilliant epic content 👍😉👌
Thanks - we got proper wet on this one, but needed to give you guys some content 😂 plus it was a blast with the Rival, such a great RC. Also had to keep Kev's fan entertained with their challenges 😂😂
I think the granite is ace
Ive just fitted big rock arms and turn buckles on my sons
Alot better now
Hardly tips
Different truck completely
👍✌️great vid
Thanks - yep that must be more stable round the bends now, bit like fitting a wide max kit to a Maxx
@@HardcoreRC defo i fitted the upgraded arrma axels too £40 a pair but stopped them popping out now definitely the best 3s out for now
@@miketube6662 Granite it good, but seriously the Rival is just as good and cheaper
Another Great vid guys! :) looking forward to the next one. But I just got 2 more cars over the weekend to race on two different tracks around here.. 1/10 & 1/8 .. so please stop tempting me with more :P
Thanks - what did you get ? Rival did really good, have another car coming tomorrow 😎😎
@@HardcoreRC Yeah it's a beast! a small light basher would be a nice change from a big heavy one.. Picking up tomorrow 2nd hand but they look very nicely maintained compared to others I've seen and the 4x4 slash I got. Tried to get stuff they use at the tracks I went too. Avoided a buggy originally as had that style when a kid but is what most people race, So got a 1/8 Serpent Cobra 2.0 with nice esc, motor and remote that's compatible with Kraton so can ditch the rtr one. Plus parts and a clear body for as much as the kit costs by itself and similar situation with a SCT Losi 1/10 2wd which is common style at the other smaller track down the road. So should be very differnt than current one's :)
@@brei.z Sounds great, yeah buggies tend to be what people race the most, you should have a blast 👍👍
Since both trucks are the same price in 2022 which one is the best bang for dollar?
I would still say the Rival MT10 due to its better durability, center diff, sway bars etc, although will also depend on what parts availability is like where you are
For a future video a comparison between outcast 1/10 4S and the rival MT10 on 3S might be interesting.
We have the New Kraton 4s coming, but the size difference between the new 4s cars and the Rival is huge, the new 4s cars are pretty much the same size as the 1/8th cars.
@@HardcoreRC ya the rival is a tiny 1/10 mt, I'm waiting for the sales so I can try to pick up the outcast for a lil less.
Love my rival one of first I go for after watching Tomley review he put me onto a winner 🏆
It sure is a winner, all the other reviews were not lying 👍
Awesome BASH AND TEST!!! And I LOVE when Kevin is Hungry 😂😂😂
Thanks - Kev needs some hungry pay back 😂😂
Now that Kevin Talbot has endorsed them I'm getting one!
Very good and durable truck, a worthy addition to anyone fleet
We are hardcore. You guys lived up to that. Aftermarket support for the Rival is poor and the stock radio seems pretty cheap which put me off.
RPM make arms, and then there's all the left over Helion parts, couple that with AE 'supporting it', this mean you'll be able to get parts for a good time to come but you may also find yourself 'waiting' for stuff as AE take forever sometimes.
Have to live up top our name 😂😂 in the Uk i would say the spares support is better than Arrma or Traxxas currently, for 3rd party support, outside of the RPM A-Arms i really dont see what else it needs. Stock radio does look a bit cheap but had no issues with it, just your run of the mill RTR radio really - certainly better than a Dx2 😂😂
Dave is a natural at this
Hehe thanks 👍
That was a great comparison. The Rival took some really hard hits over and over. I want a tough 1/10 basher that is easy to work on and has cheap and available parts. Now I don't know which to choose. 🤪 Round 2?
I have both the rival is more durable but the granite is more unhinged for jumps and stunts
@@jackpoole6120 Good to know.
Thanks for the donation that helped to buy this truck 👍 the Rival is seriously good, i haven't had to work on it yet so cant comment on that side, but it looks easy enough to work on, also comes with a center diff vs a slipper clutch. Granite in this video did have some upgrades in RPM arms and big bore shocks, the Rival was right out the box.
Have a second video im editing currently checking speeds and also i get to drive it - can it be dad proof 😂
The support from associated is top notch 👍 communication over email/phone and parts availability is great.
Great video, very bad weather!
Surprised how much the car took.
Thanks - the weather was HORIBBLE 😂😂 its a seriously good RC and at a great price as well
You can now get RPM arms for the Rival as well.
Yep, one or if we break and amr we will put the RPM ones on, then i just cant see what else we could break
Passionate even on a rainy day.
So cool.😄😄😄
Rain or shine, Sundays are fun days 👍👍👍
Great video, nothing much in them really, only looks 👍🏻
And the price 😎😎😂 both great 1/10th scale 3s rigs though
I'm trying to decide if I should get a Granite or MT10...thought this video would help. Only thing this video did was let me know both are great bashers and I still dont know which one I want to get.😅
Great video I really enjoyed it!
LOL, yes they are both great bashers and you will be happy with either. It would really come down to price and spare parts availability where you are. In the UK i would edge towards the MT10 more as its still a fair bit cheaper than the Granite, in the USA though they are closer priced so it then just spares and your preference.
Durability wise the MT10 is tougher
@HardcoreRC , I'm leaning towards the Granite due to the parts availability. Arrma products are popular in my area so the local hobby shop has a lot of parts for the Arrma vehicles. Prices are very similar. I also like the way the Granite (and apparently most of the Arrma vehicles) is built in modules...seems like they were built with ease of repair and service in mind.
Thanks for the response. Just found your channel. Definitely gonna check out more of your library.
@@Captain_Yodelstein Spares availability is a key reason on what car to get, the Granite is a very good car, was the first Arrma we bought and still a firm favourite.
Hope you like the channel, been a bit quite on videos currently as real life work has been crazy busy so not getting the time to edit and the weather has been shocking
jury’s out on which is tougher I’d say the granite just based on its track record. But the mt10 looked quite a bit quicker 👀
Durability wise i would have to give it to the MT10, its just tougher over all. Both great cars though and which ever someone buys they will not be disappointed
@@HardcoreRC do you have a favorite toughest 1/8 scale? I admit the granite needs its slipper set and maybe loc tited and it’s been great other then tires!
@@chrisd933 Basher wise it would have to be the Kraton EXB with a few tweaks
Poxy weather 🤦♂️!
Summer 2021 can do 1 🤬, decent vid as always gents 👍
Thanks - this summer sucks big time, have to get wet just to have fun, need to get me a boat 😂😂
That little truck is like a miniatures Redcat KAIJU. I have a couple of Kaijus with some tweaks that are very tough and durable for my kind of bashing. Great video as usual 👍👍. There's a little dude about my son's age (5 years old) driving around. Hehe. That's awesome 🤣
Yeah these are great truck, cant get the Kaiju over in the UK 😥 yeah we normally have some young kids that come out with their dads as well, so good to see them driving around at such a young age
@@HardcoreRC My son has been driving by himself my RC vehicles since like a year and a half now. He drives better than me sometimes 😅
@@joseCalderon1976 yeah that's why i let me boys do most of the driving now, when i drive it normally starts to get expensive 😂😂 great to get them involved at a young age
Yes Ur right there Boyz the arrma granite blx is the best 10 scale truck out there, the mt10s quite good thoe 👍😁
Love them both, we are really torn between the Granite and the Rival MT10 - its so tough to decide between them
@@HardcoreRC quite interesting to know has I ain't got mt10 👍👍
@@Shaunusprowire1748 The Rival MT10 is a very good RC
MT10 for me. I think the Granite had a better driver and wasn't subjected to as much damage. Just my observation and absolutely no disrespect for either of the two young men.
Thank you for watching and no disrespect taken at all, makes a nice change to have people actually concerned about things being taken the wrong way on social media, if only everyone was so polite, so i take my hat of to you for that 👍 i would agree the MT10 is the better car, do like the Granite, its just the MT10 is better and cheaper in the UK as well
Pulling my hair out tring to pick out a 3s truck around $550usd. Redcat mt10e. Or big rock v3 or Traxxas hoss this team associated truck you showing here.. landslide looks nice... want something that can take abuse and also be in the 40-50mph range
Dont have a Redcat or the Hoss, but out of the Bigrock and Rival MT 10 i would recommend the Rival MT10, its more durable, comes with way bars, center diff and lights
@HardcoreRC also looking at the Granite everyone swear bye it. From my research the center diff is a selling point for a lot of trucks so is accessibility to upgrade swap replace parts. 🤔 the hoss has all that but is slower than almost any other 3s 1/10 truck trying to find a middle ground any 3s truck you have $550 dont have any other rcs what you buying today?
(550 for truck ,battery and charger )
@@miguel360kmc Only real difference between the Bigrock and Granite is the chassis lenght and tires, i prefer the Granite out of those two, mainly as i dont like the stock BigRock tires.
Personally as long as spares are available i would get the Rival MT10, its just the best all round package and value. Everyone i know that has one or has tried one swears by them
Good review fellas
Thank you
I love the scene of your house
Thank You 👍
Love my Granite but would love to get the MT10 sometime
Ditto, love the Granite and the Rival is very good as well
Nice to see u giving Kev a taste of his own medicine. Didn’t like it did he 🤣🤣
Kevs laugh I knew he was there before you showed him. I would go granet both good R Cs
granet easier to get in my area.
Granet easier to get parts in store . Ordering on line hard work alot and to many porch pirates. 😢
He does have a distinctive laugh, i can understand a lot about ordering a car will come down to parts availability, nothing worse then having a car you cant fix , had that issue with my Kronos XRT sat on shelf of 6 months as couldn't get the parts
It looks really oddly like a stampede? Things you get with the mt10 for less money: good balanced tires that grip and don't blow apart or come unglued, a center diff, axles that don't blow apart, bigger bearings, aluminum motor mount, threaded shocks that don't blow apart, adjustable turnbuckles, lights, better radio, wheelie bar that doesn't fall off, good steering servo, better handling, aluminum wheel hexes? Anyone wanna buy my stampede so I can buy an mt10? Lol
You pretty much nailed it, not sure why the Stampede costs as much as it does
Dang you almost got landed on. LOL great video.
Yeah it was pretty close - the joy of being the camera man, been hit a few times now 😂
Great vid thanks for letting me know about the vid on clares live stream last night got me a decision to make now
Your welcome, your timing was perfect. Was super impressed with the Rival and at its price point - wow. Both great trucks though
@@HardcoreRC if you could pick one which would you go for. But saying that you've had me somewhat sold on the road rock/big rock for awhile
@@380shortfuse If i had to pick one - oh thats so hard, they are both very good, so it would really come down to personal choice on looks and cost - which ever you go for i really dont think you will be disappointed
@@HardcoreRC thanks very much really appreciate your opinion cheers great content aswell 👍
What phone mount are you using on the transmitter? I would like to make one for my boat.
Hardcore rain savage ;) nice vid
Hehe thanks 👍👍
Still want a rival, and this really makes me wish team associated still made and sold their 1/8 rival
Oh they did a bigger one, i wish they also still made it if as good as the MT10
@@HardcoreRC want me to find you a link for a video to see what its like?
ruclips.net/video/5J9F22Xz0I4/видео.html
They came stock 4s but the truck can easily handle 6s, just esx and motor swap
Granite OR Big Rock ?????? Which is faster and which is stronger???
Both same speed, i would say the Granite is likely stronger due to its short chassis and A-Arms
I want to see Arrma Granite VS Tracxas mini Maxx!
Im going to be doing a view on that soon, but the Maxx is a lot bigger than both the Granite and Rival, the Maxx is pretty much same size the a Amrra Notorious
Loving the video’s 😁👍🏻 I might have to get one of these mt10’s
Thanks - Rival is a great car and for its price, wow, just wow
I only have 1 question… When you say toughest 1/10 shouldn’t you include the Traxxas Maxx? Epic video as usual 👊👊👍👍
I did think about it, but the max is way bigger, i dont really class it as a 1/10th, with the wide max kit on its pretty much the same size as the Arrma Notorious. and costs twice as much as a Granite and almost 3 times as much as the Rival 😲 Maxx is a great truck though
Traxxas Rustler or Rival MT10 ? Wich one is better ?
Dont have a Rustler so don't know what they are like, but in all honesty nothing really beats the Rival MT10 for durability in the 1/10th scale size
@@HardcoreRC thank you
Cool RCs and bashing
Thanks
Was it my eyes or did the mt1p wheels look wobbly like the hubs was loose I have noticed it more since buying my boy a ftx Zorro
One of the wheels was a little out of balance, all sorted now though
I dont own any arrma or team associated rc's but I would spend the extra and get the granite.
If i was choosing between the two and could only get one - it would be the Rival MT10, love the Granite but cant ignore the price difference, centre diff and lights
@@HardcoreRC actually here in Canada the mt10 is 2 dollars more than the granite at 420 canadian doll hairs. Plus i would rather have the team associated sr10, what a beast you fellas should get your hands on one of those. It looks like an old Monte Carlo.
@@WoodsUnknown Wow that price surprises me, looks like you get a far better price on Arrma than we do, the Rival is about the same on conversion, but the Granite in the UK is CAD 574.
Just bought a DR10 😎😎
MT10 ftw!
Certainly a great little car
awesome dude
Thanks - really like the MT10 - hoping the MT8 is as good
@@HardcoreRC yeah might need to get one in the future
It the ARRMA BIG ROCK 4X4 V3 not better to challenge with the MT10? That is the same price range.
Not really as the Big Rock ha a longer wheel base, also in the UK the Rival MT10 is only $375 where as the Big Rock and Granite are $466
The main things though is that the Rival MT is more durable and also comes with a center diff, don't forget the lights as well 😂😂
@@HardcoreRC ok from that point of view you are right. I like Team Associate, I had in a long time ago an TA B4 Stealth 2 WD Buggy for racing on a track, that was nice. The time without all of the amazing brushless power :)
Now I want to buy a basher for the city, skatepark etc. (for my little son and me). It should be not too fast but fast enough that I became a little smile and I want tuning parts, I like to change parts to upgrade the rc car. I know it is expensiv and not really needful.
The TA MT10 sounds good, but I want to check all altnatives incl. spare parts accessability in my country (Vienna/Austria(Kuhlimuhs)).
@@realgweep Yes deffo check for parts availability and price, the TA MT10 is by far the most durable in our view, but the Amrra 3s line are also very good, and were our top 3s basher before we tried the MT10
@@realgweep The only real weak point on the MT10 is the arms, so check if you can get the RPM arms for it were you are.
@@HardcoreRC Thank you for your tips. I will check it out. I also look at the Arrma Vortex, but I'm not sure if it is really good to have so much speed. It sounds good, but a better control of the car is more useful than speed. On youtube i've seen the rc cars rollover every time on high speed. They run allways out of control. More rollover, more coast of spare parts :)
What if you hard break then reverse while trying the double front flip?
That's what the boys were trying, double front is not easy, especially in such wet weather
Both amazing
Indeed they are 👍👍
OH kelvon Talbot was at the skate Park too
We go out a lot with Kev, so yeah you will hear him in some of our videos 👍
Can never go wrong with the granite, but that team associated looks pretty impressive though?
Indeed - all the Arrma 3s cars are good, but the Rival is just as good and cheaper, plus comes with sway bars and a center diff - oh and did i mention the lights 😂😂
Dam English weather 👊🏻👍🏻
Its been crazy this year, pretty much rained every single day of the summer 😥
MT10
would have to agree if im honest 👍
I bought this Rival MT10 after watching this video on Sunday night and it arrived today. After 5mins of use, its making aloud noise when on full lock to the left. Any ideas what it could be. It's brand new so can't imagine it should be making this noise, was fine turning right and driving. Thank you. Keep up the good work 👏
first thing i would check is your end points, make sure when turning to the left the servo isn't straining and trying to pull the steering past when it ends
@@HardcoreRC Thanks
Awesome video
Glad you enjoyed it
Was it really just $260 back then? Ballooned to $400 now.
Yes 2 years ago the Granite was £259 ($336) and is now £379 ($492)
The rival all the way I was hopping to win the one Tomley was giving away haha unfortunately didn't win lol
Yep have to say the rival bang for the buck cant be beat i don't think, normally when i watch and comment on a giveaway i say if i won pass it on to someone else, but om Tomley one for the Rival i also wanted to win it 😂😂
@@HardcoreRC haha I totally know what you mean about that lol. His was looking too good to pass up
Arma
its 6 of one and half a dozen of the other - both very good cars
what 'c' rating 3s battery would be good for the MT10?
To be honest most C ratings on Lipos are just a total lie, that being said i would suggest making sure they have at least 50c printed on the lipo
@@HardcoreRC would I be ok putting an 80c/100c battery in it? It wouldn't blow up the electrics or anything?
@@willeymunda No you wont blow anything up, you can never have too much C rating
Beast
Super Little beasts 😂
Dedication right there Hard core Rc team out in the British summer rain. Great video 👍
Hehe, its either that or just not get to play, its pretty much rained every single day this summer bar i think 2 weeks when the sun decided to come out and play
COOLI REALY LIKE THIS VID
Thank you, glad you liked the video
Kev just wants you to break the cars so you buy parts from him lol
Hehe, Kev doesn't sell the parts anymore, but these two are real tanks and take some serious abuse
@@HardcoreRC Oh true, I just got the Arrma vorteks, to much power on the 3s haha
Are you guys running 3s in the mt10?
Yes 3s and stock system
U want one lol its a very very good bang for your buck its very worth it all good stuff on it dust cover wow
It is a very very good truck, and for its price point wow is all i can say
I know aluminum shocks brushless 3s lights amongst other good features
I meant i want one lol
How is the big rock related to these 2?
Big Rock is similar to the Granite, but just a tad longer and wider, but has shockingly bad stock tires, Big Rock is actually the same as a Typhon apart from the body, hex size and wheels
@@HardcoreRC thanks, trying to get back into the hobby and haven't decided what to get yet. Haven't had a hobby grade RC in 20 years. The videos are great . Looking at 1/10 scale mainly ...possibly a 1/8 Kraton EXB but can't decide.
@@seanlawrence972 My suggestion would be to start with a good 1/10th scale and get used to driving and jumping it with the air control, then step up to a 1/8th scale 6s car.
this shows the main arrma 3s cars next to each other: ruclips.net/video/8kRIQeyqvQ8/видео.html
I am super impressed with the Rival MT10 as well, bang for your buck dont think you can beat it
associated mt8 is the one you want
It does look good on paper, the real test will be when it arrives, if its as good as the MT10 then they are on to a winner, although that is 1/8th scale
Seems now that the mt10 is more expensive than the granite.
Likely as the Granite has been reduced to clear stock as its been discontinued - well it has in the UK at least
I like the Granite by looks etc but
I've raced Team Associated for a while I know they make good stuff but that was a long time ago so I don't know about now I'm going to go with the Granite hehe
edit And we have a tie 😂🔥👍 The T A took some hard hits I couldn't believe it took all those hard impacts and drove away and the Granite wasn't no chump by no means If I could only have 1 I'd go with the Granite it's a bit more stable In my opinion it would make a better race truck and I'm all about racing lol
Great vid guy's definitely need to have a rematch when the weather clears up 😂🔥👍✌️
Its a tough call, love them both, but think the Rival MT10 pipps it, it comes with sway bars, center diff and light s and is £50 cheaper.
I also forgot to mention the Granite has upgrades in RPM arms and big bore shocks, Granit is still a great truck stock though
@@HardcoreRC Cool thanks for the info 🔥👍✌️
The Rival also has a center diff unlike the granite
Rival MT10 Hardcore version = Redcat KAIJU
Cant get the Kaiju in the UK unless its imported and then no parts support, heard it is good though
@@HardcoreRC Theirs plenty of vids on the Kaiju breaking pretty easy, Rcunexttuesday has a Kaiju that they broke to easy a few times. Ask them about their experience with their Kaiju, on the other hand they to loved their Rival MT10 & thought it one of the toughest 1/10 trucks.
@@gillian9178 I did wonder what happened to RCu's Kaiju, saw them run it once and it break, then waiting for parts as cant get in the UK, guess its not bee out since. Rival is a beast, punching way above its price point that is for sure
the MT10 costs more then the granite now.
Not in most countries outside the USA. Granite is $492 in the UK vs MT10 at $375
Amain Hobbies in the USA have them both at the same price
Also doesnt distract from the simple fact the MT10 is far better, more durable, center diff, lights, metal diffs gears, sway bars to name a few bits
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Its raining cats and rc cars
It sure was that day 😂😂
id say run the mt10 more to see then i can choose haha
MT10 is really good, i had a go this week and loved it, so easy to drive as well - hope to get that little video up soon
@@HardcoreRC ill be waiting haha
Granite over the BigRock? 😳 I know obviously you couldn’t use the RoadRock 😁🤘🏼 the Associate is taking enormous abuse for the money that’s got to be a win either way 😎
Personally i would go Granite over the Big Rock, just prefer the shorter wheel base and also the tires, the Big Rock stock tires suck big time
@@HardcoreRC yeah totally agree with the tyres and I guess the shorter wheel base helps in the air 😎
Big Rock is King 👑
Not convinced on the Big Rock, hence we turned it into a speed runner. the stock tires just suck so bad on it and no different to a Typhon 3s really. Its a good car but need to change the tires so that adds to overall cost
@@HardcoreRC everybody has there own opinion I believe it's 3s king on durability. And when you guys going get one of those carbon fiber chassis , it's a excellent product check them out I know for a fact you'd be able to get more height and speed on that long jump. You got 80ft to beat 😉
@@BNIRc Dont get me wrong the Big Rock is very good, just the stock tires suck, its also the same as the Typhon bar the body and hex size, all the Arrma 3s cars are good as all based on same platform.
Love the look of that Carbon chassis but wont be spending £250 for it (which is how much it would cost to buy, ship and pay the import on for it)
@@HardcoreRC what if you only had to spend 150$ ??? I really want to see one go off the long jump ramp , and the hardcore boys put it to the test.
@@BNIRc If could get for $150 and didnt have the M2C chassis already probably would have considered it, but to get to UK including shipping and import tax/duty it would be pushing close to $400
O Log o rhy them😂
I can never say that word, and its coming up a lot in my job - like i struggle to say Pepperoni as well 😂😂
Does the arrma granite body fit the arrma big rock chassis?
No, as the Big Rock is slightly longer than the granite.
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video 100.000 on how to fuck up your car.. how about a video about normal use hey....
What would you call normal use ? no offense but, curious who you think would watch a video of an RC car driving round a field or doing little jumps for me to then spend 20 plus hours to create the video and earn £10 from 🤷♂️🤷♂️
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