A Guide to Quick Access Pistol Safes
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- Опубликовано: 22 июл 2024
- A quick access safe is a great way to keep your pistol secure, but also readily accessible. But not all of these devices are created equal. Chris talks about what to look for in a small pistol safe, and points out the pros and cons of the 7 safes he's been evaluating.
Read Detective Spencer Blue's article for some excellent tips on how to avoid gun theft: www.luckygunner.com/lounge/ho...
Safes reviewed:
Fort Knox Original Pistol Box
V-Line Hide-Away Large Capacity Handgun Safe
ShotLock Handgun 200M Solo-Vault
Vaultek VT20i
Hornady RAPiD Safe 2600KP
Stack-On PDS-1500 Drawer Safe
GunVault MicroVault XL
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Same here. Been sharing links a lot lately with people new to firearms.
I hate to use the term but Lucky Gunner is one of the most "accessible" gun channels out there.
I think Hickhok was the first gun channel I started watching.
But the Paul Harrell channel is the best gun channel on YT. Indeed, along with Sensus Fidelium, it’s one of the best channels of all.
What about Demolition Ranch? Lol
Lucky Gunner Ammo I am also a cop with a decent size police department. I was a burglary and theft detective for 7 years, and have worked the streets in patrol for 5. I will more than likely be going back to detectives as a supervisor in the next couple of weeks. I said all of that to say this; I would like to contribute to your blog if there is anyway that I might be able to help. I really admire and respect your character and appreciate your videos in that you seem to have a legitimate and benevolent agenda. I also concur with Det. Blue about his assessment of theft. I don't spend too much money on $5,000 safes to store my guns. I buy something that is adequate to keep my children out of the safe and would take more than a crowbar to pry. However, $500-$600 for a safe is about my limit, and $100 for a one gun safe. If they are able to get into those, then it was a specific targeted attack and they would be able to get into the higher end safe anyway. One of the biggest things that you can do is make it a harder target. Padlock outside fence gates, illuminate the exterior of your house at night, secure doors with good hinges, striker plates, screws, deadbolts (steel doors if possible), add storm windows, decent camera system, get to know your neighbors (especially the older retired ones who love to be nosy), etc. Make it so they don't want to mess with your house due to the hassle involved. I have interviewed hundreds of burglars, and hardening your target is the best overall course of action. A decent but not overly expensive safe is just fine.
John Harris Thanks for your input!
Well said sir
War child partner up with the lock picking lawyer.
He defeats this with a fork.
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War child, Detective, thank you so much for your input. It means a lot to me coming from your background. After careful consideration, 100’s of video reviews and visiting safe shops I came to the conclusion that if I take other precautions first; cameras, keep my mouth shut and have a camera system, I don’t have to spend so much money on a safe that thieves can get into anyway. The prices are outrageous and according to every review I’ve seen on every safe, they can all be compromised so your words have verified my thoughts. Thank you and be safe.
Back off Warchild...seriously!!!
Chris is the sanest RUclips gun reviewer
Thanks, Pete. The bar is pretty low, though ;)
Paul Harrel is awesome as well.
Forgotten Weapons?
@@Genesis23OPB Preach it my brother
Rational and analytical gun reviews is asking a lot of RUclips.
I have to say, this is probably the best gun channels on RUclips. You offer sensible and practical advice in an engaging way without all the macho nonsense seen on so many other gun channels. I’ve asked questions in the comment section before and had quick and well thought responses from lucky gunner. Keep it up!
'Sawwy Daddy!' Great touch and very true. Gun safes are not just about theft, but about making sure kids don't get access (or renders your safe useless)
Great timing, thank you! One of the electronic buttons in my GunVault just stopped working and I immediately swore off electronic safes.
Thanks again for the excellent reviews and content.
I've had the Fort Knox for about 18 years. It's been flawless.
I'm really glad I found this channel. Your format is really straightforward, it's clear and easy to understand, and you show some good variety of products even if you don't 100% agree with them (and you do so without bashing them like a lot of the smug, know-it-all gun channels do).
Great video.
This helped me decide which pistol safe to get. I got the Fort Knox safe but upgraded to a bigger size. Absolutely love it.
Nice review. I like the emphasis on practicality as 80% of the risk can be addressed with 20% effort.
Excellent review! First the ballistics labs, and now this. You're a boon to the community, good sir!
I like the no frills approach. Very helpful for a new firearm owner
I have the Fort Knox PB1 and love it for the reasons mentioned here. Hopefully this vid helps save people some time in researching. I spent 20 hrs researching before buying.
Great video idea. I was convinced a bio-metric was the best route with kids in the house, but your insights on the drawbacks of electronic safes has me thinking otherwise. Thanks!
I also have the Fort Knox gun box. I’ve had it for about 4-5 years now and am extremely happy with it. After a while the hydraulic openers don’t work quite as well but it doesn’t really slow me down opening it. The video is correct; it is big and ugly and VERY sturdy. This was the box I felt the most comfortable storing my two bedside .45 pistols in with 3 kids around.
Thank you so much for such a thorough explanation of so many options. Great video.
I have the shot lock mechanical pistol safe. Absolutely love it. In fact I have three. The biggest plus for me being over 60 years old is that biometric safes sometimes won’t accept a fingerprint scan (Something to do with thinner skin) so I stopped using them. Mechanical works just fine. the biggest concern for me is keeping my handguns away from small fingers. It’s perfect for that and it also allows quick access. I keep my pistols for home defense in pistol safes. everything else goes into my regular gun safe. Thanks for your timely video.
This guy deserves more subs....
The speaker looks like a decent person who certainly gives good honest information.
I have 4 Shot Lock 1911 safes and have had great success with them the last three years. I use 2 of them daily multiple times and not one issue.
Great info, thank you. I am looking forward to the next episode
A good vid about a topic that I don't think gets enough attention. Well done.
Yup...the Ft Knox box is awesome. Have had one for years. Love it.
I also have the ShotLock for my shotgun. It's awesome, too. Simplex locks ftw.
Thank you for this review, it is everything I was looking for regarding small safes.
Terrific video with solid information. Thumbs way up!
Hmm. Very helpful... was wondering about it. Keep picking these up at the store and looking, and putting them down... because I am unsure of their practicality-v.-security realistic usefulness. Thanks for keeping it different. Gun reviews are a dime a dozen; everybody is doing the latest greatest gun, and how many of these do we really buy (...don't answer that, ha)... but the everyday accessories and stuff that supplements our guns are not covered enough, outside of ammunition. And this comprises a huge chunk of the regular shooter's expenditure. Far too often we go through a trial-and-error process of hunting around for useful things until we stumble on the right thing. Packs, holsters, loaders, belts, cleaning stuff, racks, safes, security measures, optics, parts upgrades, non-OEM accessories, and more... there's a lot to cover after the gun is out of the box. Cheers.
I’ve had zero issues with my VAULTEK and I use it daily. The only two safes in this list I’d buy is either the Fort Knox or The VAULTEK
It has some nice features as far as electronic safes go. It's still electronic and one day it's going to stop working without warning because that's just the nature of consumer electronics.
M9A1 MAN hi there. Vaultec calling
@@LuckyGunner i got 2 vaultec safes. Just as i check and maintain my cars, guns, i keep an eye on my safes. They never have me issues. I respect your opinion, but i believe your review of these safes was heavily biased toward mechanical locks. With all that said we are all better off preventing break ins into our home then just concentrate on the safe.
M9A1 MAN defeated with a fork. ruclips.net/video/T5YsZLJ5FjY/видео.html
@@LuckyGunner One thing that mitigates the eventual failure problem (you are right, it's a matter of when, not if) is for the every day carrier such as myself. I open my electronic safe at least once or twice a day to retrieve my pistol for any time I venture out, which means that if it does fail, I will know right away. Another aspect that drove me to the bio-metric is the noise. If someone is coming into my home, I want to be as quiet as possible. I don't want to have "beep, beep, beep, beep" and this was the only safe I could find that just has a basic, fairly quiet "swoosh" that is softened by the hydraulics. It's not really about preventing theft, more about the requirement to keep it away from the kids. I have serial numbers and if someone steals my glock, I have done my due diligence in my opinion. I do respect the affinity toward mechanical devices, but out of the ones I looked at this was the only one that met the sound requirements that we had.
Comprehensive smart review as always- 👍👍 Lucky Gunner
Really good video, I look forward to your video on the long gun versions. I agree about the mechanical locks, I’ve got the sentry home defense center and the electronic lock sucks.
Great video, very informative.
After reading the reviews (on Amazon) from purchasers of many electronic gun safes you will find a HUGE amount of people talking about how they work for a while then eventually fail OR that they only open properly 7 out of 10 times when practicing. I have to agree on the mechanical combo lock. I have both push-button and electronic locks on my house and the mechanical has never failed. The electronic, although very reliable, does eventually have issues once in a while. And mine is a top brand name.
Thanks for the awesome content!
Thanks for putting the time into this video.
Bravo from Italy!! Love your videos man
I just ordered one. I've read too many reviews on other safe boxes that had flaws. This is one purchase that I didn't go "cheap" on. I'll save money somewhere else.
I like the bypass lock, it is great if something goes wrong with the keypad or you forget the combination and like you said it is very unlikely someone will pick the lock.
Thank you so much for this video, all info much appreciated!
Best channel for firearm reviews and advice, hands down! Also, Lucky Gunner has great prices on ammunition.
Actually, the Paul Harrell channel is the very best. But this one is good.
Over the last two weeks, I've watched dozens of videos on gun safes, home security, and the like, trying to find suitable and cost-effective protection for firearms and valuables. This is the first video I've seen that was chock-full of practical advice and didn't parrot what dozens of other videos and websites said. This is an OUTSTANDING video hosted by an OUTSTANDING presenter. Hurrah!
Wonderful video!! I would have loved to see good mounting options for quick access. Other than usual nightstand. Thanks Lucky Gunner!
I am definitely going to look into a mechanical gun safe. My instincts were telling me and so were the reviews I've been reading that electrical ones were not reliable! Thank you for your honest review!
Gun safe? Really? How will a gun in a safe protect you? Is a home invader going to wait for you to access the safe so you can defend yourself? Time for plan B. Keep a firearm on your person at all times, loaded and ready to go.
@@gbennett58 loaded and ready? Really? Is a home invader going to wait for you to wake up?
Rig a shotgun to your door just in case...
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We're getting close :)
So glad I came across this channel
Your background music is awesome!!! Had to watch this twice
The other problem with key bypass locks is that, besides being easy-to-pick wafer locks, most thieves will simply drill them out in about 30 seconds. No specialized tools or knowledge needed. Great video! Thanks for the realistic information.
Having stolen out of a few dorm room sentry safes, picking is not the right word for how you bypass a cheap wafer lock. I used a set of little fingernail clippers with a nail file. It fits every key way and is stiff enough to not break or bend. You just stick that bad boy in, give it a turn, and maybe a little jiggle. You could buy a specialized tool for it, lockpickickinglawyer probably sells one, but you don’t need it.
I was told this but just some guy who heard it from another guy. I assume it’s pretty common knowledge.
great quick review, thanks!
I like the shot lock safe for being smaller and cheaper. And I like the bypass lock because I have read a lot of reviews of simplex locks failing at some point and all your stuff being locked inside.
If the simplex fails safe is junk I can go at it with a saw
I have a hornady rapid safe near my bed, and i leave it plugged in. A quick swipe from a hidden key and bingo. I like it, but i really think the best thing is a hidden shelf or plain sight hidden compartment unit. Nothing is better than something that doesn't look like a safe.
I recently purchased some ammo from you guys and I'm very pleased. you have a return customer definitely. price and availability was great I just wish I could afford to get more. I'll be making monthly investments lol
I see these smaller quick safes as more of a deterrent than a safe.(A thief is gonna get in if they want to)
I have kids in the house though, and kids have friends over, so these are absolutely necessary at my house.
Fort Knox is my favorite
fas1 safes are very nice too. harder to mount but awesone quakity
Good stuff. There's another wrinkle to this issue. If you're a renter (like me) attaching these things to the floor or a wall becomes a no-go. Secure weapons storage with that limitation becomes a real headache. For my small collection I went with a Fast Box from SecureIt because it attaches to the bed frame. It's not optimal but it's better than nothing.
Brandan B I'm in a similar situation. I'll look into that bed safe you mentioned.
Here's the link in case you haven't found it yet. It's worked out well thus far. It also conceals well behind a bed skirt.
www.secureitgunstorage.com/product/hidden-gun-safe-model-47/
I actually have a Model 52. I really like the organization aspect, it's better than a StackOn, and can be bolted down. If a safe isn't practical at the moment, this makes a good alternative.
as a serial renter, i have found that many landlords (especially if you rent a condo or house rather than an apartment in a commercial building) will permit the installation of a wall or floor safe -- provided that the tenant pick up all or some of the cost and leave the unit in place when the lease ends. a bit pricey for a short term tenant, but if you plan on renting a place for a few years or longer, an option to consider. the point: in the appropriate circumstances it may be worth the trouble to ask.
@@hhjhj393 You don't own it either, the bank and the state owns it pleb.
Great video. I've been wondering about which of these to buy.
Thanks! I'll look into that. So far i just have old fashioned safe with Key only (key is special shape hard to pick)
@G Galilei my comment is 2 years old. I am a long time subscriber to the LPL. Still comment holds up. The safe I was talking about had very interesting key design. It was very long and pins inside the lock were on both sides.
I have the Amsec version of the Fort Knox. Looks more or less identical. That is a great little safe.
“Sorry daddy” now I have to clean my screen. I’ve always found your content informative but that’s the first time you’ve made me laugh.
I've got 2 Fort Knox Pistol Boxes and they are reliable little tanks. Couldn't agree more on the issue of not wanting a battery operated keypad or biometric product that you can trust your life with. Simplex was the only way I was going to go.
Both of mine work great. Never had any failure on opening. I have 2 full sized pistols and extra mags in one, and 2 full sized and 1 snubbie revolver in the other. Plenty of room.
Couldn't be happier with the product.
Love my Fort Knox. Money well spent.
You should take a look at the Fas1. I own two and know many LE who swear by them. Great video!!!
Great, comprehensive video as usual. Do you have any particular recommendations for quick access safes that can be used in a car/truck? Something that can fit under the seat? Thanks!
An informative and very common-sense-oriented video.
Glad to see this view of the electric safes. Other gun channels swear by them, but i dont know if thats just because they are endorsed by vaultek or others? Thanks for the vid and somethings to think about. Keep up the awesome work!
I use the Gunvault Speedvault SVB500 biometric version. First and last biometric one I’ll ever buy. Biometric sensor is very finicky and finger placement needs to be exact every time to hopefully open it. It won’t open if my finger is too dry or too wet.
FAS1 safe (not a typo). Thick metal, heavy, simplex lock, auto open and present the firearm. Perfect.
Nice, thanks for the suggestion. I had not run across that one before.
Lucky Gunner Ammo not a problem at all! The metal is 7 guage I think, and the holster options for the auto open feature allow for a tac light on a pistol. They also have large enough options to support suppressor length weapons.
Agree. Fas1 is excellent, only available online but great service.
This is five years late, but as someone with significant experience with simplex locks, I think you overstate the reliability of the simplex combination chamber. I’ve replaced several of them in the last month, some of them less than a year old. They have a fussy linkage system that can wear out quickly. Granted that these are commercially used and the code was entered several times a day, so maybe they’re fine if you’re not opening your safe a lot. I would prefer to have a mechanical key backup. I’m not certain, but I think the shotlock’s key core is replaceable, so I might put a high security keyway in there, but I understand that this is something that is easily done for me and may be too much trouble for someone else. There was a bypass for that unit shown by lockpicking lawyer on RUclips, but I believe that’s been remedied by the manufacturer.
Thanks for the great content, I agree with all your points about electronics, but just wanted to add some info about simplex.
Thank you for highlighting mechanical lock options. I keep looking at the biometric options out there and they keep coming back with issues. I came to the same conclusion on my own research before watching your vid regarding the Hornady option.
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Thanks!
It’s good. But the Paul Harrell channel is the very best gun channel.
Damn good video. Well presented. Keep em coming.
I haven't finished watching the video but I have 2 of the Fort Knox safes and it's a win. Nothing else compares IMO
with only 1000 combinations, it should take any curious kid no longer than 20-30 minutes to open it...
@@vladislavpowerman2131 cool story bro.
Well reasoned critique of the conventional approach with respect to the security issues - although, you have to admit: a large percentage of burglaries are committed by people who know the house and have been able to assess the situation before entering.
Would like to see this updated annually.
The Vaultek keypad lights up.
That can be a huge plus in an emergency situation in a dark bedroom.
Great info!
As a locksmith I agree with your choice for the best safe for the exact reasons that you stated.
SimonSaysTrain I am a locksmith too and I agree with your agreement 😁
Are you both really locksmiths?
SimonSaysTrain ever watch the lock picking lawyer? Defeated with a fork. ruclips.net/video/T5YsZLJ5FjY/видео.html
@@spidennis Wrong safe...
Agree on mechanical locks. I have an electronic lock and the battery dies about every month, usually when I'm not expecting it.
Great vid. Just thinking about these.
outstanding channel!
Great video!!! And that part at 9:47 almost had me on the floor laughing!!!! Well played sir, well played!!! 😂😂😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Good practical advice
Thanks Chris!
That Ft. Knox doesn't have a cable attachment, but there's nothing preventing you from bolting a cable to the bottom mounting holes. Use a carriage bolt so it can't be unscrewed from the outside, or some similar security fastener.
Well done.
Thank you!
The V-line lock would be the best for a prepared teacher.
I own that Stack-on safe. If you close the door too hard the battery pack pops open and completely disables the keypad. That is a massive flaw!
I didn't have that happen, but the batteries definitely came out when I dropped it.
Duct tape?
I have it also and if the door slams down too hard, it goes from silent mode to audible beeps when the keypad is pressed. I like to keep mine quiet. It's easy to fix, but aggrivating.
Another issue with electronic containers is the noise. You can make some not beep, but the cheep solenoids and latches can be very noisy when they release. I want the upper hand when accessing my security system.
Most of these are design to keep children or certain other people from accessing a load handgun. They are not designed to keep a determined thief from stealing your gun. Indeed, for many of these they can just take it safe and all.
Excellent
I recently went through a very similar review of many pistol safes in the $200 ball park. I ended up buying the Vaultek V20 (no finger print reader). I agree that the cheap biometrics used in safes is unreliable, however the electronics are not all the same. I have experienced no issues with my Vaultek not closing or buttons being too sensitive. In fact, I tried to get the buttons to malfunction/fail and could not. Super fast!
I love the idea of the Hornady RFID for convenience, something you seem to really dislike for some reason.
Also, you neglected to discuss the app feature of the Vaultek and the fact that they have the most secure type key lock of any of these safes.
I really like your videos but I think your extreme love for the simplex lock really skews your safe videos.
jerzsubbie he’s said he doesn’t want to have to use a small key in low light. And with the RFID, it means that you have to keep something on you and make sure to hide the ones you aren’t using well enough.
I have no special attachment to the simplex lock, but after having had one electronic safe completely fail unexpectedly and others not fuction correctly 100% of the time, I have a pretty deep mistrust of them in general. I am not an expert on small electronics, so I cannot look at a device's circuitry and determine how well made it is (although, according to other sources who have done deeper investigation into these devices, they all come from the same two or three Chinese factories). I have to rely on unbiased, third party lab testing for clues as to the long-term reliability of these locks. That is what a UL-certification gives us. *None* of these small, affordable electronic safes have a UL-certified lock, so I choose not to rely on them for a home defense gun. They are fine for other purposes, but not something I will depend on in an emergency.
Need the gun box review for long guns please.
In Canada handguns are a pain in the ass to get but short barreled shotguns with an overall length of 26” are pretty common. The only barrel length restrictions apply to semi-automatics
Thanks
You should check out FAS-One. Available with interesting forms.
I have the fort Knox love it
Thanks friend!
I do think that fort Knox is cool. If I went that way I would have at least 2 and put them in different rooms and BOLT THEM DOWN. you are right about mechanical locks! Do not get electronic safes/boxes.
First praise to Lucky Gunner, I've seen a few of your videos and they're all well produced and avoid the absurd that other channels seem to fringe on.
I watched this and the long gun safe version, in both videos electronic biometric safes are casually disregarded as impractical devices. I do not know if you're right or wrong, however in sample case of 1 I have never had issues with my biometric safe except for the battery dying -going at least a year since the initial charge. As an aside I do not intend to use the safe during home defense, I merely want to keep honest people honest like many lower durability locks.
This is a big leap but I think it would be helpful for the community: Consider quantifying the reliability of these devices. They have xx Wh batteries, what is the typical standby drain time? How many unlocks should there be per charge? You doubt the consistency of biometrics, of 100 unlocks, how many times did it fail? Personally I don't think the device having a non-zero failure rate is enough to write off these categories of devices.
Good video. Subscribed from this.
There is a defcon video floating around on how they opened up small gun safes.
hope the next video will be about the number of ammunition we need for home guns and shotguns
I have a barska biometric safe and it is quick and reliable... Until the batteries got corrosion and the electronics stopped working. Luckily it has a hidden key hole and I could easily open it with the key I had stashed away. If you use a battery operated safe, remember to change out your batteries! Oh and it also has a feature that beeps when batteries get low which is nice. Just don't let them get corroded.
Great type of review. But you need a followup. Lots of new stuff out there today. Thanks!