@lethalpython the constitution protects you from the government it doesnt protect the government from you. If you want more freedom, dont be a politician
@lethalpython as in it belongs to the tax payers not the government. Public property does NOT mean government owned. The white house isnt even owned by the president its the PEOPLES house
@@sketch6995 you are right it won't change officers behavior just as of yet. But it did take away the officers ability to hide behind a shield of protection from personal liability. If an officer screws up to the point they get personally sued, then their own families will feel the pain when they have to pay out of their own pockets. As that happens more, officers will fall more in line for not wanting to violate individuals civil liberties.
I will never back ending qualified immunity. You do that, no one will want to do that job. They have to have some sort of protections. If not, it will be nothing but lawsuit after lawsuit over anything and everything.
EXACTLY! Notice that the mayor didn't repeat his foolishness while being criticized for his tyrannical behavior. I'd bet that the City Attorney told him how screwed he and the police department are. Public officials who ignore their seventh grade civics class need severe consequences.
The only problem is It is the taxpayers that pay out when this crap happens. With this blanket document prohibiting criticism of public officials, it is no surprise this occurs at taxpayer expense. The Mayor must be fired the young woman be honored with an apology and save the city from crazy laws like this that invite fraud in the city government. Give the young woman a prize and a badge.
I want to hear about criminal prosecutions, of the cop for one. The others might not have criminal liability, but the cop sure does. Cops need to be on notice that "I was just following orders" will not be tolerated.
Every person sitting on that panel and every cop in the room are guilty of conspiracy against rights and deprivation of rights under the color of law. When you include the kidnapping (unlawful arrest) these crimes are capital offenses.
With this blanket document prohibiting criticism of public officials, it is no surprise this occurs at taxpayer expense. The Mayor must be fired the young woman be honored with an apology and save the city from crazy laws like this that invite fraud in the city government. Give the young woman a prize and a badge.
When the Police (or any government employee or elected official) break the law or conspire to take and or conceal information from We The PEOPLE, then there is no law, just a fight for survival.
Sue and sue BIG Sue the CITY and make them PAYYY.. it's the only way you will ever own your own home. Sue personally! You have constitutional rights that were violated, and they don't have immunity! Sue!
Awesome! No "official" should be able to "shut you up" just because they don't agree with or like what you have to say. She should be allowed her 3 minutes without interruption. That would have been the easy way. That jerk was doing nothing more than pushing his proverbial weight around.
When the Police (or any government employee or elected official) break the law or conspire to take and or conceal information from We The PEOPLE, then there is no law, just a fight for survival.
The taxpayers are going to pay her way more than the city attorney! Public comments can be about anything except threats. SO the mayor is knob! SO is the order follower who put hands on her! He should know better!
The police officer needs to lose qualified immunity. And please do not settle out of court. There needs to be a trial and conviction. You people see dollar signs in your eyes and lose your convictions so qui ckly.
I got a ticket from a Goodyear police officer today because the state of Arizona suspended my registration after I couldn’t afford my auto insurance I had no real coverage no driving history and yet was paying a lot and since Arizonas government is corrupt and gets payed a lot from all those insurance companies the insurance company told the DNV that I stoped paying my insurance and since the government works for them they canceled my insurance why dose the government work with a company that it should be regulating
Easy to say when you're not footing the bill. Sue the mayor and cops. Also, we had our municipal elections in Surprise recently and the mayor wasn't running. His term ends in January. He'll skip on outta here while the rest of us get our taxes raised to pay for the lawsuit.
FIRE does a good job of getting the policy changed, but it doesn't go any further. In the case of Jeff Gray they asked for a symbolic compensation of $1776, the year of the declaration of independence. I hope that in this case they don't limit themselves to a pat on the cheek, but strike hard, so as to send the message that it is better to change these unconstitutional policies "motu proprio" rather than incur a federal lawsuit
They need to sue on behalf of the daughter, too. He technically sent her out, too, when he said she could go with you. Sue the prick on behalf of your daughter as well.
The fact that the mayor, all of the council members, the chief of police and the arresting officer are all still alive is proof that there is no justice in this country.
Prime example of elitism on a local level. Figured he had the 'authority' to do what he needed to silence opposition to his friends raise and enforced it. He needs to be investigated regarding his relation with the attorney (covering up each others crimes). And both the Mayor and Cop here need to have any power over others removed permanently. Our authorities are way out of control and we need to set some extreme examples to scare them into returning to their job of protecting us from the elite, rather than selling us out to them.
The problem lays in the fact that the people like the mayor know that if he gets sued it will be the taxpayers who foot the bill and not him so he doesn't care what happens
I am surprised when I see something such as this and wonder why the solicitor or law firm that represents a city or town doesn't actually know what the law is regarding the first amendment. This could've been handled quite easily if the legal representation they have actually checked into the Constitution. In my opinion most of the people who are board members or supervisors basically are dumb as a tree stump, and that is why they're supposed to have good legal representation not the guy who finished bottom of his class. The first person that should be discharged from this political body should be the law firm or attorney that is supposed to be protecting them from a lawsuit.
Unfortunately, if the city loses the suit, whatever damages may be awarded, will come from the residents own pockets. Too bad these people can't be sued directly.
It should really scare the residents when the people they hired to serve and protect actually act like we're in Zazi Germany. The office by his oath and by law should have arrested the Mayor who was committing the crime. This officer should have been fired immediately for publicly violating a citizens rights. If this is the kind of police force they have the I would urge the citizens to go armed.
1964 US Supreme Court NY Times VS Sullivan The Court asserted America’s “profound national commitment to the principle that debate on public issues should be uninhibited, robust, and wide-open.” Free and open debate about the conduct of public officials, the Court reasoned, was more important than occasional, honest factual errors that might hurt or damage officials’ reputations.
Ego give some people a title and their ego takes over😢 and police just follow orders knowing that only the taxpayers will be held accountable after the public servants throw away thousands of taxpayers of dollars trying to be right 😢
Policy is not law.
Cop is not policy enforcement
It is, its called property rights.
@lethalpython the constitution protects you from the government it doesnt protect the government from you. If you want more freedom, dont be a politician
@lethalpython thats public property just fyi
@@KenZaracki as in, not your property, correct. Turns out the government has property rights too.
@lethalpython as in it belongs to the tax payers not the government. Public property does NOT mean government owned. The white house isnt even owned by the president its the PEOPLES house
End qualified immunity.
Why? It didn't change anything in colorado.
@@sketch6995 you are right it won't change officers behavior just as of yet.
But it did take away the officers ability to hide behind a shield of protection from personal liability.
If an officer screws up to the point they get personally sued, then their own families will feel the pain when they have to pay out of their own pockets.
As that happens more, officers will fall more in line for not wanting to violate individuals civil liberties.
@jonnyd1646 It didn't even change that, damages capped at 25000 and only 5% of that comes from the cops pocket......
@@sketch6995 will definitely look more into that for sure.
I will never back ending qualified immunity. You do that, no one will want to do that job. They have to have some sort of protections. If not, it will be nothing but lawsuit after lawsuit over anything and everything.
Any settlement should be taken from the city pension funds.
Good for Ms. Massie - standing up for her rights and the rights of all Americans!
Where’s the criminal charges for the mayor and the cop.
They are held to a lower standard than the taxpayers.
Lmao. U think the prosecutor who works for the city is going to bring those charges?
Can we impeach this mayor? Or just fire him.
They can do a recall.
WILL BE FOLLOWING THIS CASE VERY CLOSELY!
Surprise Mayor really messed up! He needs to resign over this!
EXACTLY! Notice that the mayor didn't repeat his foolishness while being criticized for his tyrannical behavior. I'd bet that the City Attorney told him how screwed he and the police department are. Public officials who ignore their seventh grade civics class need severe consequences.
He's a tyrant. They don't willingly give up power. He will have to be removed.
This is a disgrace.
It’s typical government behavior.
I'd sue until they cried.
The only problem is It is the taxpayers that pay out when this crap happens.
With this blanket document prohibiting criticism of public officials, it is no surprise this occurs at taxpayer expense.
The Mayor must be fired the young woman be honored with an apology and save the city from crazy laws like this that invite fraud in the city government. Give the young woman a prize and a badge.
I want to hear about criminal prosecutions, of the cop for one. The others might not have criminal liability, but the cop sure does. Cops need to be on notice that "I was just following orders" will not be tolerated.
The cop committed battery
@@mikecziraky2037the cop kidnapped her being he didn't have no legal right to arrest her
@@Robett-r4l Sur did
Every person sitting on that panel and every cop in the room are guilty of conspiracy against rights and deprivation of rights under the color of law. When you include the kidnapping (unlawful arrest) these crimes are capital offenses.
I was just following orders didn't work at the "Nuremburg" triles.
Abolish qualified, judicial and prosecuratorial immunity. End citizens united. How can we hold public servants accountable with those in place?
With this blanket document prohibiting criticism of public officials, it is no surprise this occurs at taxpayer expense.
The Mayor must be fired the young woman be honored with an apology and save the city from crazy laws like this that invite fraud in the city government. Give the young woman a prize and a badge.
When the Police (or any government employee or elected official) break the law or conspire to take and or conceal information from We The PEOPLE, then there is no law, just a fight for survival.
Sue and sue BIG Sue the CITY and make them PAYYY.. it's the only way you will ever own your own home.
Sue personally! You have constitutional rights that were violated, and they don't have immunity!
Sue!
i own my own home and i NEVER sued anyone
She said it’s factual information and he said it doesn’t matter. Seems like the city needs to change the way they vote
When the settlement IS paid, the $$ should come out of the city council pension fund
Awesome! No "official" should be able to "shut you up" just because they don't agree with or like what you have to say. She should be allowed her 3 minutes without interruption. That would have been the easy way. That jerk was doing nothing more than pushing his proverbial weight around.
When the Police (or any government employee or elected official) break the law or conspire to take and or conceal information from We The PEOPLE, then there is no law, just a fight for survival.
take the $$$$ out of the mayors and police bank account, NOT taxpayers account.
The tax payers voted for him. They get what they deserve.
Tax payers deserve it for voting for this 🤡
Policy doesn’t override the constitution. This isn’t just in Arizona this happens almost everywhere
I pray she wins her lawsuit
She will, Disgusting Coward Oathbreakers, The whole Council should be Fired.
The taxpayers are going to pay her way more than the city attorney! Public comments can be about anything except threats. SO the mayor is knob! SO is the order follower who put hands on her! He should know better!
Surprise! You don't have 1st amendment rights.
Not when you dissent to democrat leftists
The mayor is a Republican.
The taxpayers will have to foot the bill for the corruption of a few politicians.
It's not a few. It is many.
Maybe they should quit electing tyrants. 🤷♂️
They voted for these clowns so they own it
Well if they have legal counsel worth having. Then they will do their best to settle that one in a hurry because they won't win
City needs to pay her $100,000,000! The mayor and council needs to be immediately arrested!!!
Welcome to Animal Farm folks..
The police officer needs to lose qualified immunity. And please do not settle out of court. There needs to be a trial and conviction. You people see dollar signs in your eyes and lose your convictions so qui ckly.
I got a ticket from a Goodyear police officer today because the state of Arizona suspended my registration after I couldn’t afford my auto insurance I had no real coverage no driving history and yet was paying a lot and since Arizonas government is corrupt and gets payed a lot from all those insurance companies the insurance company told the DNV that I stoped paying my insurance and since the government works for them they canceled my insurance why dose the government work with a company that it should be regulating
The public… comment… meeting…
I hope she gets lots . Probably going to get a new house .
Surprise ... she just won the lottery !!!
the mayor cant make a rule violating the 1st then had a cop assault her
The mayor and the deputy needs to be arrested immediately for false imprisonment under the color of law
I hope she wins!!!
Until everyone that does this, loses their jobs this will continue. The mayor and cop should be fired.
Justice demands the mayor and police chief be removed.
Surprise deserves to be sued.
Easy to say when you're not footing the bill. Sue the mayor and cops. Also, we had our municipal elections in Surprise recently and the mayor wasn't running. His term ends in January. He'll skip on outta here while the rest of us get our taxes raised to pay for the lawsuit.
FIRE is the same group that works with Honor Your Oath Civil Rights Investigations.
you talking about jeff grey ?
FIRE does a good job of getting the policy changed, but it doesn't go any further. In the case of Jeff Gray they asked for a symbolic compensation of $1776, the year of the declaration of independence.
I hope that in this case they don't limit themselves to a pat on the cheek, but strike hard, so as to send the message that it is better to change these unconstitutional policies "motu proprio" rather than incur a federal lawsuit
They need to sue on behalf of the daughter, too. He technically sent her out, too, when he said she could go with you. Sue the prick on behalf of your daughter as well.
I pray she wins millions. She is 💯 percent constitutionally correct.
Freedom of speech. Freedom to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
They gonna learn now not to FAFO with our rights.
the officer needs to be arrested and charged with assault and kidnapping.
twice you have miss spelled shot
@@flacarpetracer ????
He’s saying arrest and charged is inadequate. Shot is the correct term you’re looking for
@@worker-wf2em Thank You for handling that
The phrase We do not comment on pending litigation, is just a fancy way of saying The taxpayers are paying for the damages
He has severely impacted his ability to be re-elected
THIS folks, is EXACTLY why the first ammendment became part of the U.S. Constitution! And yes that Mayor should be removed from office!!
Government seems to believe they can criminalize criticism.
There should be criminal charges filed…. Against the mayor and the police officer that took her into custody.
Hold your water! They’re just words.
KIK skip out.
Tyrants! Tyrants!
All public meetings are like this. The town councils don't want to hear they're screwing the people they represent
Councillors that use the police to enforce their feeling should be removed from the board immediately.
Sue them all. And Fire the mayor
Surprise should be sued for 8 figures and the mayor and the DA should be fired.
This is my city. What a shame. Absolutely embarrassing
City council should absolutely impeach the mayor and get those ridiculous rules update immediately.
Don't Police Officers take an oath to defend the Constitution???
hear that? it a new millionaire being born.... sue that city till they protect and serve or go broke...
The dark army in action
This mayor should automatically be taken out of office. The city needs to recall this mayor immediately. This is 100% violation of her civil rights
❤❤❤. Sue 4 millions.
they made her rich
Not the Mayor anymore!
Arrest him now as well!
All the council members should be sued too because they let it happen and didn't call the mayor out on it
The police officer who performed a completely illegal arrest; should be arrested and charged and be in prison. This is a clear cut crime.
They don't get in trouble for violating your rights the taxpayers have to pay for it
It’s about time cities who think they are above the constitution to be held accountable. I hope she wins big!
That mayor should resign.
Sue your city and sue your mayor!!
As soon as he said, it doesn’t matter that should have ended his career immediately 🤮
Brave and free with liberty and justice for all? How sad.
The fact that the mayor, all of the council members, the chief of police and the arresting officer are all still alive is proof that there is no justice in this country.
Prime example of elitism on a local level. Figured he had the 'authority' to do what he needed to silence opposition to his friends raise and enforced it. He needs to be investigated regarding his relation with the attorney (covering up each others crimes). And both the Mayor and Cop here need to have any power over others removed permanently. Our authorities are way out of control and we need to set some extreme examples to scare them into returning to their job of protecting us from the elite, rather than selling us out to them.
The problem lays in the fact that the people like the mayor know that if he gets sued it will be the taxpayers who foot the bill and not him so he doesn't care what happens
good they need to be put in check
Great, there goes my taxes. Skip is a fool.
I am surprised when I see something such as this and wonder why the solicitor or law firm that represents a city or town doesn't actually know what the law is regarding the first amendment. This could've been handled quite easily if the legal representation they have actually checked into the Constitution. In my opinion most of the people who are board members or supervisors basically are dumb as a tree stump, and that is why they're supposed to have good legal representation not the guy who finished bottom of his class. The first person that should be discharged from this political body should be the law firm or attorney that is supposed to be protecting them from a lawsuit.
It’s Arizona, anyone surprised?
FIRE THAT MAYER!! HE HAD NO BUSSINESS DOING THAT. HE HAS NO RIGHT TO IMPEED ON HER FIRST AMMENDMENT RIGHTS!!!
The mayor is 100% responsible for paying the settlement himself.
the mayor needs to be arrested
Great that she sued!!
It is First for a reason.
I'm trying to find more information about this. What happened? Is it still being processed?
You can see that the mayor doesn't care what people are saying about the incident. Vote this jerk out.
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
That mayor just became a target. Hah!
Mayor lost election
Same thing in Houston TX...
Surprise!
End Qualified Immunity and start holding law enforcement officers accountable for their criminal wrongdoing and lying.
That seems to be what it takes...
Tyrants and those “just following orders” don’t tend to do well when brought before justice and god.
Coner what’s scary is the way the dumb cop did what he did. That’s an order follower who can’t think for himself.
Good hope sues for a lot of money against that city and the police for obeying those orders
Unfortunately, if the city loses the suit, whatever damages may be awarded, will come from the residents own pockets.
Too bad these people can't be sued directly.
It should really scare the residents when the people they hired to serve and protect actually act like we're in Zazi Germany. The office by his oath and by law should have arrested the Mayor who was committing the crime. This officer should have been fired immediately for publicly violating a citizens rights. If this is the kind of police force they have the I would urge the citizens to go armed.
Make that fool copper pay too.
1964 US Supreme Court NY Times VS Sullivan
The Court asserted America’s “profound national commitment to the principle that debate on public issues should be uninhibited, robust, and wide-open.” Free and open debate about the conduct of public officials, the Court reasoned, was more important than occasional, honest factual errors that might hurt or damage officials’ reputations.
Ego give some people a title and their ego takes over😢 and police just follow orders knowing that only the taxpayers will be held accountable after the public servants throw away thousands of taxpayers of dollars trying to be right 😢