BEST switches for Snack Box Micro! Full comparison & breakdown!
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- Опубликовано: 27 июн 2024
- Let’s dive into the world of low profile choc V1 switch types and sub out some of the stock ones in a Junk Food Snack Box Micro. There are several different varieties of switches and in this video, we examine 14 different ones. Sunset? Dark yellow? Robin? All accounted for, plus a ton more ready to try. The amount of customization is great, and there is surely a perfect switch out there for you! Let us know your favorite in the comments below! And huge thanks to my fellow fightstick enthusiast: ShaperDreaming! They have a huge passion for switches and were instrumental in the making of this video. Thanks again!
ShaperDreaming Twitter- / shapermc
Twitter: @AFightstick Subscribe if you found the content useful: / @hushmysweet1
0:00 Intro
0:23 New caps
0:58 Switch categories
2:25 Smashing switches in silence
4:24 Graphs and data
5:58 The verdict!
6:28 Thanks and outro 
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This is *exactly* the kind of short but dense video I needed to make an informed decision. Thanks so much!
Awesome! Glad it helped ya! Thanks for watching!
I like your voice, could just fall asleep to it. And nice video! Been looking for videos on switches.
lol, thanks! Hope the vid helped you with your hunt for switches (or at least caught you up on your sleep). Thanks for watching!
I've been waiting for a video that discusses switch types for leverless controllers. Although my controller uses Gateron Low Profile Switches, your content is much appreciated!
Right on! Thanks for your positivity and nice comment.
they are interchangeable. Gateron uses the same pin style of switch just like Kailh and Cherry they are the same keyboard switches that are used in PC keyboards. Mainly just look and the pin style but some boards require soldering and aren't hot swappable.
@@MrWhateverfits Thank you
New week, new vid lets go!! Keep it up man.
You know it! Gotta keep churning them out! :D And as always, thanks for your consistent support.
@@HushMySweet1 no problem, love the content! My eternal rival stuff should be showing up soon so whenever that whole project gets done I'll let you know how it ends up - possible future video idea of an ER build maybe?
@@deminator1472 I'll add it to my list (barring your recommendation after your build concludes)!
Dark Yellows FTW. I thought I would love the super-light blues but with the Dark Yellows, they're still light but I know why I got an input wrong cause I can feel what I'm doing. I'd recommend Dark Yellow to anyone who wants something in between snackbox and sanwa buttons.
Agreed! Thanks for watching!
Nice job! I need to grab some more yellows.
Thanks, V! Yeah, they are good imo.
I really liked all the information you have. The graphs with the actuation force were really well put together. But I have to know where you got that desk mat or mouse pad under the snack box. It's gorgeous!
Lol, right on! That's actually the custom image from the synthwave portion of this channel. I just uploaded it to a website (sorry, I can't remember the name atm) that claimed they could make a mouse-pad in any dimensions, and so I proceeded to order like a ~3'x2'ish version I could use as a backdrop for these reviews and assemblies. Thanks for watching and for your nice comment!
LET'S GOOOOO I have been wanting to experiment with these! Great work as always, friend! - Baps FGC
Also I liked the song, haha 💪
Right on! Experimenting with different components and buttons and such is half the fun of this hobby! Thanks for your comment and for enjoying the music. (Both tracks are up on the synthwave portion of this channel if you want another listen without hearing all my ramblings).
@@HushMySweet1 Sweet, thanks for letting me know! Great work on the music
Great ASMR video! Keep up the good work!
Thanks!
Great video, I've experimented with one from each type except clickbar. Personally seem to be a fan of the satisfying feedback from clickys, those robin clickys and the jade for the clickbar type seem like a sweetspot for me, will experiment with those next.
Awesome! Report back which you preferred when you get them tested and find your favorite.
On switch tests, its useful to test them with different ways. Instead of just pushing down and keeping your finger there, you could press harder, release harder, repeatedly press, etc, so that we can get a feel of how they behave on the down stroke, up stroke, etc.
I didn't want a 30 minute video, but I agree, and perhaps I can go in more depth in the future. Thanks for watching!
Receiving my micro today. I wanted the switches to be pretty silent and I like to rest my hands so I went with the dark yellows. Also added some silencing pads. Can’t wait.
Thanks for the video!
Good choice! You'll have to let me know how well the silencing pads work.
@@HushMySweet1 Literally received it 40 mins ago. Ive the done a quick side by side with/without silencing pad. Not gonna lie. You can tell the difference but it’s pretty subtle. Not a huge difference. The button press also feels slightly different but again, very subtle.
All in all, dang I like it. I went for a 2023 one piece case because I don’t care for artwork and the material (polycarbonate) should be a bit stronger and well… It’s great. It feels premium to me.
I had a victrix but sold it immediately. It was good but too bulky/loud for me. (Also no seperate l3/r3 buttons)
Also.. I dunno why but in my mind the Snackbox felt smaller. So when I just unpacked it I was like huh.. Not as small as I expected. Really worried for a bit if I should have gone for the XL instead but normal size works for me.
@@DutchDeathGod Awesome! Glad to hear it!
i want mine to be as silent as possible , can you elabrate on the silencing pads pls ? how do i get them
i rembered someone talked about putting some rings around the Buttons or something ?
there is nothing better to game in all silent mode . help me Achieve this my Man ! xD
@@GemDigitalz1 “Micro Silencing Pads” at junkfood arcade. Currently sold out but they restock once in a while.
Ooo yesss.. I use a Frame1 for Melee and use Gateron Clears and even lubed it up myself. Just ordered a Snackbox Micro coming next month so I'm looking for something the same because I'm not familair with these low profile switches
I hope you find your perfect switch and this video can help with that!
People should probably be aware that they don't really make the blues anymore, and now they are called Purpz. Not sure why they changed it, but they are functionally identical in terms of actuation force.
I personally like to use Blues/Purpz for the left/down/right directionals, and for the the outer buttons that I use my pinky and ring finger for. I find the lighter force is helpful for my weaker fingers to press quickly. Otherwise I like the stock reds for the other buttons as I can rest my fingers on them without getting accidental presses.
Purpz are not a replacement for blue. Purpz were made for Boardsource, while Blue were made by GheavyIndustries. Their housing material is different, and pink in the direct replacement for blue.
What do you use for Up
Thanks so much, great video!
Hey, thanks for watching!
Great video, I have some pro reds, purples, and robins shipping soon, can't wait to try them out. Where did you get the hex keycaps?
ShaperDreaming hooked me up with a set. They got a handful of 3D-printed ones from "TheTrain" (a user who will sell forged carbon parts and Flatbox-type stuff on fightstick discords). Thanks for watching, and you'll have to let me know which switches you settle on. You picked some pretty different ones, so hopefully you have a clear winner!
this was great, thank you
Ah right on, an UltraDavid sighting. Thanks for stopping by and for the nice comment!
I clicked solely in hopes that there might be lighter than pink linears now, I dont keep up with stuff to know if they would be here yet, shoulda known better lol. great video tho glad I did take the time to fully watch it
Thanks for the comment and for watching! It will be interesting to see how much lighter they go with switches.
thanks for the breakdown. also, sweet music dude! these remixes are slick. where is it from?
On this channel! Check out the older vids or the synthwave playlist! Thanks for watching and glad it helped!
nice video!!
Thanks for watching! And thanks for the retweet!
just subscribed and also interested in getting into those leverless arcade controllers after many years of using classic arcade sticks. got any tips or videos to start learning about em or if they might be right for you?
highly highly recommend fightbox controllers. only 100 bucks, hot swapable switches (i use gateron silver pros personally) and really reliable. i actually prefer it to my snackbox which ill be selling soon lol. it also has a nice, sleek metal base so it nicely weighs on your desk. however its not entirely the best for lap play compared to the fatter boxes like the official hitbox
I have another video on making an all-button controller on this channel. You could do that and dial in the perfect layout for yourself with cardboard or something before you built (and if you hated it, nearly all of the materials could be used in a traditional joystick build). If assembling isn't your bag, then there are a couple other videos on the Snack Box Micro and its cousin, the XL, on this channel. I've got a vid coming next week that will shine a light on another type, but in the meantime, you can look into Snack Box Micros, MPress controllers, Hitboxes, and Flatboxes. Those are some main ones to research for your starting point and we can go from there once you find the one that most speaks to you. Good luck on the switch from joystick to all-button. Don't give up too soon because it may take a couple weeks to build up some new muscle memory.
Good video. I like how you mentioned dark yellow. I don't like sensitive buttons either. I was also considering burnt orange (tactile). Have you tried those
Thanks! Yeah, dark yellows are great. I've tried tactile but they always feel too "keyboardy" and not "fightsticky" enough. I'm sure that makes no sense, but I guess I just prefer linears for fightstick stuff. On paper the burnt orange seem pretty good, but they felt meh to me. Maybe if I properly lubed them, they would leave a stronger impression. They were okay but not enough so that I would give up on my linear dark yellows. Anyway, thanks for watching!
@@HushMySweet1 cool. Appreciate the feedback as always! Very helpful
ask, does it come with the cable included or do you have to buy it separately?
Where I can get those 3D printed hexagonal button caps? P/S: Beautiful Morrigan poster/mouse pad in the background. Is it commissioned?
ShaperDreaming sent the keycaps to me for this video, but I believe they got them from "TheTrain," a big contributor on the open source fightstick project. He is on twitter and discords if you want to try DM'ing him. And yes! I sketched up the art and then had my buddy execute it in his style. It's the background art for the synthwave stuff on this channel, but I had a 3'x2' mouse pad printed to use as kind of a backdrop in these reviews. Thanks for watching!
Are the Red Pro switches more quiet than the default reds?
I'm looking for a more silent sound. Thx in advance. Nice vid!
Pretty comparable honestly. Your quietest options are all linear but there isn't much sound different between them imo. Good luck with your hunt!
Thanks, much appreciated. Your vid definitely will help on my journey.
Hey, so im very new to switches and really overall mechanics, but i was looking for these online and the “button” or moving portion of the switch ALL look different than the “plug” shaped buttons you have in the video. Am i missing something, or do switches all coming with changeable buttons? The ones i see on amazon have a + shape while yours all have an electrical plug shape.
I think I see what you're asking. You are probably just searching mechanical keyboard switch and the full size ones will come up first. With devices like the Micro, the Bridget, Flatbox, Keeb-Brawler, and similar, you'll need to search "low profile" to get results similar to switches you see in this vid. Hope that helped!
@@HushMySweet1 THANK YOU SM
Are these more or less expensive than traditional arcade buttons, and do people seem to prefer these now or is it just an alternative? These definitely seem like they would allow for a far thinner housing at the very least.
They are a newer option, but aren't interchangeable with all buttons. You've got to go with Gamer Finger or Crown to be able to swap switches (and even then, they won't be low profile ones like this). It's another option to consider to help dial in that perfect though.
I prefer the feel of a sanwa button overall, but the thin profile unlocks a lot of useful features that outweigh my personal preference. Such a thin controller, like the micro has been a godsend for my wrist, as I can rest my palms on my thighs and barely lift my hands to comfortably position them for long play sessions.
ok i have to ask because i really can't tell, is the background music at the start of the video a cover of smell of the game?
Yes! ruclips.net/video/M7Om_xVrx44/видео.html&ab_channel=HushMySweet
I just got the pinks and they feel a little bit too light for me. Do you recommend purpz instead although there's only 5g difference. Will it be noticeable or should I just get used to the superlight pinks?
Yeah, I doubt you'll be able to tell a 5g difference TBH. That's a really marginal difference. Anyway, I hope you find what you're after. Thank you for watching!
What is you're feelings on the Pro Reds? Do you think the 15g will make a noticeable difference
I don't think I've ever played on a full set of them so don't feel confident commenting. But you can pretty easily feel a 20g difference from one switch to the next, so I still think you'd be able to tell a difference coming to the Pro reds depending on your starting switch.
I like the yellow switches in my snack box micro
Nice, I typically go with dark yellow myself! Though I have been enjoying their new amber ones too. Thanks for watching.
Thanks bro.
Hey, thank you for watching!
I would love to know a mod for the snackbox that would make my micro more silent. What are your suggestions ?
Got a family that needs sleep early
they sell silencing pads and there's a tutorial on a tape mod on kailh switches on youtube
Skye answered what I would have. That, and look at the linear switch options since they are just quieter naturally. I do have a video coming (probably a month or so since there are several ahead of it) regarding silencing techniques in joysticks and all-button controllers. Hopefully you'll stick around and let me know your thoughts on it when it does drop.
@@HushMySweet1 Do you happen to have a link for the leverless one? Noise is my main concern and my KeebBrawler-04 came with Choc V1 Reds. Hoping to find the quietest switches and do anything I can to silence it further.
Which one is the equivalent to the MX Speed Silver Cherry Switches? That is what I use on my Furin FRS leverless controller. I want the same kind of Switches for my Snackbox.
You can look through all the linear options (they each have a bit of nuance), but I think red should be pretty close to what you're after. It also makes it easy because that's the stock switch type. Then, if it's not perfect, you've got a good starting point for adjustments.
@@HushMySweet1 thanks!
In all the reviews I've seen for these style boards people remove the switch from the back side can't you just use a switch puller?
The back is just how JFA recommended doing it. But yeah, you should be able to use a switch puller as well.
I'm looking for some that feel and sound like " Razer Huntsman mini " keys which ones are those
I'm not familiar with that keyboard. A quick google looks like they use either one of two kinds of optical switches: Linear Red Switches and Clicky Purple Switches. Most of these devices aren't set up for optical switches, so find a comparable low profile one with similar actuation force. Linear reds are pretty standard in a lot of these.
im considering changing the switches in my cheapo ali express controller to choc switches, is there anywhere else to get key caps from? I can only find them on JFA, and I find $25 a bit extortionate for key caps, plus im in the UK so shipping will probs be a bitch lol.
Yeah lol, shipping will likely be a killer. There are SinoArcade-style caps (which are a bit smoother) you can find on AliExpress. I don't know of another good source, so let me know if you hit upon something. Thanks for watching!
@@HushMySweet1 hmm, those seem like the keycaps that came with my controller, for cherry style switches rather than choc v2 switches, not been able to find anything for keycaps other than JFA, unfortunately .
Link for those hexagonal buttons?
Sorry, I don't seem to have it any longer. It was something I came across and forwarded onto "TheTrain" and "ShaperDreaming" and they cut me a set.
Just a bit of criticism regarding the graphs at around 5:00. Don't slowly slide them in. Just pop the entire thing on the screen right away. Graphs are for communicating information effectively. Sliding them in slowly where you can only see half the graph is not an effective way to show information.
Good note.
Which ones do you think feel closest to a sanwa?
Hard to say that since none of them feel overly similar imo. Probably a linear one will be closest to what you want and red is the default where people start. Then maybe skew toward silver or pro red? Good luck!
@@HushMySweet1 Thanks. Yeah I kind of suspected reds were probably as close as it gets, been using convex + reds and it feels close but not quite haha
What the difference between the yellow and amber ones
The amber ones are closer to reds. Dark yellows are a bit stiffer and need a bit more force to actuate. The amber ones are 45g Linear with 1mm actuation. They feel pretty good. I have another video just on them since they are still so new.
Are these switch better, equal or lower, compared to mechanical keyboard switch?
IMO, more or less the same as the full-size stuff, I'd say. There are fewer low profile options compared to the sea of standard switches, but there's still enough to find your preferred switch type.
@@HushMySweet1 nice, thanks
Can you rest your hand on Linear pink?
37 gf? I would doubt it. I can barely rest my hands on reds and then not at all on blues. Maybe if your hands are lighter or stronger than mine, you might have a different experience. Good luck!
I wasn't sure because I have low browns on my Keyboard and find them too stiff for tekken. @@HushMySweet1 but thank you for the reply, I should go with Reds then! Maybe is the heavier caps that make it easier to press.
I just hate how hard it is to get the Kalih switches. I wish they sold them on Amazon.
They do have some (on US Amazon anyway), but they are typically sold in 35-piece quantities so that isn't ideal when you only need a handful for a single Micro or similar all-button controller. Ah well. Thanks for watching and for your recent support!
@@HushMySweet1 really? And they come in a decently short amount of time? I’ve been prototyping some 3D printed leverless sticks that I ultimately want to sell, so having 35 switches wouldn’t be bad. I’ve been using Gateron low profiles so far.
@@deusprogrammer_thekingofspace Oh yeah, definitely. I grabbed a set of 35 dark yellows on Amazon not too long ago for misc projects. Came about the usual speed, so I'm assuming it's all good.
@@HushMySweet1 you happen to have a link?
@@deusprogrammer_thekingofspace Pretty sure these: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BLCLWFL5/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1
why they dont use mouse microswitches
Dunno. These style of switches are the standard for these low-profile Micro/Flatbox style all-button controllers.
Are blue switches faster than red or smth like that?
Yeah, blue will activate quicker than red.
@@HushMySweet1 what abt brown?do you think it would be good for sf6? Cuz I want it silent for playing at night but idk if red would've a lot of delay
@@maycoed7874 I have some browns in one of my sticks. I think they are fine. Pretty quiet, but not quite as quiet as switches in the linear category (because brown is a tactile style). Your earlier comment seemed to imply you wanted a bit lower operative force on your buttons. The sunsets are very similar to brown but activate with 10gf less. They are very similar to brown and might also be up your alley.
@@HushMySweet1got it thx, do you think red ones are bad if you wanna tryhard?
@@maycoed7874 They are a solid option for sure. There's a reason why they are the standard for a lot of these companies. JFA uses them as the default option and Mavercade has the option for either red or blue, but the red outsells the blue in a ratio of 4 to 1. So I'm gonna say most people really enjoy them. They are easy to change if you ever need to tweak it down the road, but they are a good middle ground in terms of actuation force, plus they are linear which I prefer (in fighting games) over the other switch types. Good luck.
anywhere i can get button caps for these kailh choc v1 switches? junkfoodarcade are sold out
Hopefully they restock soon (but they always seem to have issues keeping the convex ones in stock). The ones in this vid were 3d printed, but I don't have any easy links or anything.
Amber?
This video came out earlier than that switch release, BUT I have another full video on the Amber and they feel good.
im located in Toronto, Canada - love your videos. I am wondering if it would be possible to pay you to build me a micro box. I am pretty scared to try and build one by myself. Please let me know!
Hey, thanks! I'm not sure how much shipping would be since I'm in the US. Also, the Micro is a Junk Food Arcade product, but there are other options. Have you seen the video where I put together a Flatbox? If you can source the PCB and 3d-printed enclosure/keycaps (and 12 switches and a USB-C cable), you can put one together much cheaper than me trying to act as a middleman. If you're committed to having someone else build it, then you can get a Bridget from SGF for a hundred bucks USD, and they restock every Saturday. You also have Mavercade up there in Canada and they make super cool controllers. So, try all those options first! Thank you for watching!
Technically the last two types are both clickbars, just different thicknesses
Good to know!
you can see the bars themselves through the clear housing. Kailh mx clickies have gotten the bulk of the r&d, Arctic fox and summer are my favorite, haven't tried autumn yet
I think some people swapping switches and all this craziness are chasing imaginary performance gains. I understand having a preference for how they feel but your switches aren't holding you back unless they literally don't work.
Oh yeah, I think it's all just personal preference at the end of the day. Whatever is most comfortable and looks and sounds the best to you!
best switches i use - mx ) all choc sounds and feels like chippest shit.
What kind of MX do you like the best?
first
indeed.
the ping on these are awful wtf
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@@HushMySweet1 theres this little ping or ding that u can hear in your video for some of the switches. i think its the clicky part of the switch thats resetting. really awful sounding
@@TheJackson4eva I understood what you meant, but I'm not too sure what can be done about it. I think it's more noticeable in this vid than it is during play, so I don't feel it's a huge concern for me personally.
@@HushMySweet1 theres not much that can be done for it, its just because the switches are lesser quality. just a pet peeve of mine im sure nobody else noticed!
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What's wrong?
@@HushMySweet1 oh sorry LOL i commented this cause i was confused in the order you showed the button presses, i was expecting them to be done as all linear -> all tactile -> all clicky, but its nbd just messin
thanks for making this vid it helped me pick out my switches!
@@mewsiu I think I just put them in at random, but yeah, in hindsight I should have kept them better grouped. Ah well, glad it helped all the same! Thanks for watching!