Watch THIS before buying a CZ600 Trail
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- Опубликовано: 4 май 2024
- CZ600 Trail is compact bolt action rifle that was designed to be light and transportable. Collapsible stock, AR compatible pistol grip and magazines give it a more tactical look but this is also what makes it so modular and practical. This rifle is packed with features and super fun to shoot.
The only potential drawback is that at around 2 MOA it's not a tack driver but if we consider the potential use that's more than enough.
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I agree with Ziga! And thanks for the shoutout, mate! 😄
I love the rifle, but it's of course not perfect. If anyone is interested with what I did to the bolt handle on mine, there's a bunch of stuff on Instagram / Facebook showing it, and I'll do an update video at some point (maybe just a short to show the handle mod). Can't link, cos the spam filter will block the comment, sorry.
The link to bolt handle modification:
instagram.com/p/C2U73nQsSSV/?img_index=7
@@PolenarTacticalAwesome, thanks for the quick pro/cons. Is it possible to take the stock off? Would be curious to see if this changes the accuracy.
@@philipwilkin2667 yes, it's possible to take off but im not sure how i could fire it in that configuration.
I have already tried to glass bed the plastic chassis and insert steel pillar beds but there was no noticeable change in accuracy.
With each test i do it gets me more curious what could actually be the cause of poor accuracy :D
@@PolenarTactical I have never had my hands on on the cz 600, but I would imagine it has an aluminum pillar bed common with low and mid tier rifles.
id recommend measuring the lands of the rifling and finding munitions or loading your own that meet or approach that measurement.
You can't get 1 MOA because of the way you shoot - I can get less than 1 MOA with 69 grain match king and ~ 1MOA with 55 grain Blitz King - I have done this multiple times at 100m (110 yds) with 5 rounds per group. I agree its not a tack driver, but you can definitely get those groupings if you have good technique. For the record others have found the same, for example Chris Parkin (Chris Parkin Shooting Sports) got 0.752, 0.885 and 0.887 MOA with three different types of factory ammunition (5 rounds per group). I used a bipod as did Chris, no lead sleds or other forms of stability support. Its the Indian not the arrow. Note Chris Parkin used the 16 inch 1:7 version and I used the 20 inch 1:9 version. I strongly recommend cantilever mounts for scopes on pic rails.
The way you fire with a middle finger while remaining on the bolt is a thing of beauty. Nice work!
Never seen this kind of bolt action rifle technique. Thank you Polenar Tactical for showing it.
People used to do this with the enfield in the wws
If I was to suggest another change to the rifle it would be either making the stock less wabbly or putting pic rail on the back so a folding stock can be added. The Elf Owl Chassis (CZ 600 clone) for the Howa 1500 actually has pic rail for this exact purpose
I’ve been waiting for information like this on the cz for months, you do a great, straight to the point video. Unreal 👌
Range conditions were fantastic, without so much as a gentle breeze in any direction. As such, I plopped down on a bench, loaded my first rounds, and started a formal accuracy test. Being that my sample was chambered in .223 Rem., the recoil was extraordinarily mild, even without a muzzle device installed. Directing my attention to ergonomics, I found the AR-pattern grip comfortable and familiar. I liked the idea that if I ever changed my mind, I had thousands of others to choose from, as this aftermarket is incredibly vast. I was also fond of the little compartment on the underside, further emphasizing the utility theme of this package. My initial groups were about what I would expect for a rifle of this nature, but it really shined when it was fed the heavier, 77-grain Federal Match fodder. This makes sense given its fast twist rate of 1:7 inches, which generally causes a .223 barrel to prefer heavier (for the caliber) bullets. Peeking down at my chronograph readout, I did observe slower-than-advertised velocities, but at the end of the day, nothing was below a normal range for the cartridge. Moreover, let’s be honest, how often does .223 Rem. or 7.62x39 mm leave a barrel much longer than 16 inches? Sure, the Trail is short for potential, but it isn’t lacking in its class by any means.
I want a 300 blackout sbr version of the trail.
That’s my plan if I ever buy one. The local gun shop has one but I’m to keen on it yet
It would be perfect as a reasonably priced Mini Fix.
Why!?
1000 rnds in a bolt action. That's some commitment.
I used it for practical shooting, Lynx Brutality and i even won a local 3gun competition with it against semi-autos 😅
@@PolenarTactical guess that breaks up the slow pace of working a bolt gun so its not as bad.
10 round group accuracy is completely fine for the kind of rifle the Trail is... No complaints from me.
Honestly i expected more from a bolt action rifle but it's perfectly fine for what it is
Yup. As we discussed, it's more than fine for what it is, and people expect faaaar too much of simple gats, egged on by Fudds with their cherry-picked 3-5 shot "groups" and misleading 1 MOA guarantees from manufacturers.
@@BlokeontheRange what bothers me the most is that i cant figure out what exactly makes it less accurate. I would imagine CZ cold hammer forged barrel is top of the line with semi-heavy profile. Receiver is aluminum but it's very thick and rigid. The stock is plastic but i have glass-bedded it and installed steel pillars - which showed zero change on accuracy.
So my guess right now is wobbly stock, or maybe the barrel an/or chamber is somehow not good...
I could have sworn James explained why when he originally covered the gun. But it sounds like you guys tried to shore up any potential problems. @@PolenarTactical
You'll often get 3-5 rounds clustering just due to randomness in the dispersion. I really appreciate you doing 10 round groups. It's honestly the minimum that starts to show the true accuracy of a system.
I think if we wanted to have some kind of real standard, anyone claiming to report any meaningful, mechanical accuracy should be shooting 20 round groups, removing one, and reporting a 95% hit circle. Or you could do 10, remove one and report 90% hit circle. But I'd want to see a few 10 round groups averaged.
Weapons and ammo are/can be so accurate now that I think one or two 20 round groups is kind of needed to actually separate them.
Only problem is people aren't going to like the fact that *actually* getting under 1 moa dispersion is bit difficult to achieve.
I saw the thumbnail and thought, "gross, bolt action ar15". While watching the video, "That looks f****** awesome!"
Thank you for this. I was looking at this seriously, but now i see i would not be happy with it. Thank you for saving a lot of money for me.
Hahaha, I was NOT ready for the muffs!!!
Solid stuff as always. I might check this rifle out honestly.
I have almost that many through my 7.62x39 600 Trail. Accuracy is entirely adequate for what the gun was intended for and a surprise to anyone not used to shooting caliber out of anything besides an AK. My only complaints are that the Bren 2 magazines take modification about half the time and it needs a right-side cheekpiece for left handed shooting. Shame that most of the controls are ambidextrous but the buttstock is not.
Barrel harmonics, have you tried different weights? But for hunting or defence 2 moa will suffice, but are the point of impact consistent or does it move around from one session to another, for me that could be a bigger issue. Are there any replacement stocks out there, fixed at the back of the frame and made to swing to one of the sides, preferably the left side.
Did you have to shave the screws when you attached the magpul fore-grip or did it fit?
I like it, at least the concept anyway. Although I will be waiting for the 2nd generation, hopefully it will come out with a swept back bolt handle and sturdy stock.
This is really interesting, have you tried a different barrel? I am looking for a compact 223 bolt action (living in the UK) and looking for something similar to a Q mini fix. I have a Tikka T1x 17hmr and they are notoriously bad with 20grn ammo but love the 17grn....
One thing I've found, is that if you have a good muzzle brake, it can some times tighten up the groups a bit as it reduces the inconsistencies regard gas flow around the bullet after firing. It's slight, maybe .2 MOA, but it's present.
Sounds like the barrel, is similar to the Bren 2 barrel. I have a Bren 2 and in my opinion, the PPU 75gr match, works fine for these typ of barrels.
It's a great tool, and a great review for people who are in states that restrict what you can on... Better a bolt gun than no gun
4:33 which part is the serialized firearm part? Can you make an aftermarket all steel chassis and a nice wood stock?
I missed if you used different kinds of ammo. PS. Did you you try with a suppressor? Glad people are starting to see chrome lined is less likely to be accurate. Not impossible for it to be but less likely. In know this from using chrome coating on rotors with a helix geometry in Oil and Gas. Id love to see this with a stainless CHF barrel.
Outstanding review, great rifle for backpacking behind enemy lines.
A bolt action rifle?
New video drop
Edit: damn, the CZ Trail seemed like an interesting rifle with neat features but the inconsistent groupings are a major downer
Did it have the proper muzzle break on it some one asked earlier
@@braddbradd5671accurate rifles don’t need muzzle brake to be accurate. Most F class doesn’t allow Muzzlebrake.
Just have to wait for a gen 2
I did get a Blackhawk down wibe at 2.20 - 2,30. Gordon and Shughart shooting incoming skinys left, right, left and right. 🙂
I just wish CZ released a left-handed version of this.
Seeing how long we had to wait for a LH 457(and just two variants to boot), I'm guessing that'll be nowhere in the near future if at all. Ruger or Savage is more likely to release LH variants of their rifles.
Is this rifle useable by left handers?
Im left handed shooter too while i have no problems shooting right handed bolt guns seated or prone, its standing that becomes the problem.
No 6.5 grendal, pass for me.
Cz discounted the cz527 rifles was a mistake.
Ya, I prefer the older cz models too.
You can get an elf owl chassis for a howa 1500 in 6.5 Grendel. I think I’d rather have that.
Ruger ranch for me, got one in 556, 7.62x39 and 6.5 grendel. For price of 600 trail i got all 3. And ruger has better precision as far as i can see from 600 trail reviews.
The ruger is good but the action is not a true mini action like the 527 or howa mini. I have had 3 cz527 and 3 howa all in 6.5G the cz is way nicer fit and finish. But the howa is more accurate.
Maybe a pick up if I can get it on sale, appreciate the video.
I would be interested in one if I could take that stock off an put a sig side folding one on!
Thanks for honest review! 👍
And don't worry about buttstock, there will be soon at least two or three folding stock options for this gem.
We are looking for someone to make .300 blk aftermarket barrels for us and we already have a prototype of a carbon fiber handguard that will free float the barrel :)
Polenar is there a version of this in semi automatic by the way I think I’m your biggest fan from Australia 🇦🇺❤️
When the firing pin is shot by the force of the spring that counter force if the the complete system is not solid enough that force has to go somewhere and that somewhere is the movement on the stock, there is a very good reason why rail guns exists
Damn
I always regarded this as a negligible force and/or movement but it makes sense.
I dont go into details in the video but i have glass bedded the stock and installed steel pillar on my CZ600 and tested it for accuracy with a free floated barrel - no real difference at all.
That's why i started to suspect other things...
It's still possible that maybe just the barrel is shit but i have no means to check that
@@PolenarTactical Borescope could help with that, but you would only spot obvious problems with it. Easier way would most likely be to mount the weapon in a sled so the stock doesn't affect the grouping or try to remove the play from the stock by adding some material to jam it in place.
@@Tuulos barrel looks perfect from the inside
The only things wrong with it could be wrong chamber dimentions, too wide bore or wrong length to thickness ratio that would be out of tune somehow.
I have shot it from a sled/rest and got same accuracy results with 10 round groups.
That's why it bothers me so much - im now super invested to try to find out why it doesnt shoot sub MOA because there is no apparent reason why it shouldnt
You want to try that sentence again but in English this time?
@@PolenarTactical I think the only way to be sure is to get new, good quality barrel. It may be custom job but after everything what you tried, what else you have left to try?
Very nice, quick and helpful👍
Thanks :)
Does anyone here has a stock problem with cz 600 trial? I bought mine like a month ago and it now has a problem with the stock, it will collapse from fully extract position when fire it. It wont do so if you put the rifle on a sand bag or something in front. and you can not collapse it by using your hand.
Can you shim the stock to take out some of the wobble? i suppose even if you did it might still go against the designed purpose of the rifle which would be to just have a compact carryable rifle
Not yet but i have glass-bedded the chassis, installed steel pillars and removed the handguard for testing. I also tried to load the buttstock in the same way every time. No visible change in accuracy.
This means that there is probably something else wrong but im not sure - it could be the buttstock or even something with the barrel or chamber - but i cant test that.
Also CZ uses quality cold hammer forged barrels with nitride finish so that's why i never suspected it.
The only other thing i could think of is maybe inconsistent bolt locking or something...
I thought this was really cool for all of a week before I remembered that semi auto's are something that are readily available in all kinds of flavors
3:50 Can you try Jim See’s “free recoil” technique where you clamp the forend to a barricade with your hand and avoid touching the stock?
I have tried both - not shouldering the stock or pressing the stock with a lot of force into my shoulder but got quite similar results
WOuld be interested to see how it would group if you put it in a sled, tied it down, and then grouped it without using the stock at all.
I tried everything. I have glass bedded the plastic chassis and installed steel pillars. Tried shooting it with and without the front handguard (because it's attached directly to the barrel).
I shot it from the bipod by applying pre-load on the rifle and stock and then with no pressure at all. Tried the same on a sled.
No difference at all.
I can get a 5 round group under 1 MOA sometimes, but every time when i do 10 round groups, i get at least 3 "fliers" - the group just gets wider.
I'm talking with Bloke on the range, he has the same rifle and he is getting almost the same results. We both can not get this rifle to group better than 1.4 MOA with 10 rounds.
The frustrating thing is that we dont know why. I thought it was the loose buttstock but just today i have tried it again with some wire installed that has completely fixed the buttstock and made it rigid.
Again, same result :/
Honestly that bolt action transition was pretty impressive. I wouldn't blow you but definitely a good ol fashioned
I wish they would have made this in 308
It’s a Cz. Of course it’s rad🐸🍺🔪🔥
hey CZ
I want this in 300 winmag
is there a 6.5 barrel available so you can fire 6.5×39?
no, not at the moment
The accuracy limitations on the Trail version is a major disappointment to me, not because it needs to be much better for what it is intended for or the cartridges it is chambered for, but because I think it could have been AMAZING as a hyper-compact, sub-MOA gun in 6.5 Grendel. Indeed, that same gun, but with an AR buffer tube-based side folder a la something by Q and whatever bedding issues it may have being resolved would still be a helluva' package...
Agreed
My CZ 600 Trail is sub MOA, but with very unusual shooting style - I have bipod on front handguard and I fix rifle by pistol grip and NOT by butt. And of course, not with 55 gr plinking ammo, but my own reloads with Norma .224 69gr GTX bullets.
In all other claims i would be sceptical, but i have tested almost everything with my rifle and boiled it down to two reasons for inaccuracy - either the barrel is bad (which is hard to believe from CZ cold hammer forged) or the stock somehow makes it inconsistent.
Also you are here at just the right time, in cooperation with Bloke on the range we just issued a 1MADL challenge (1 moa all day long)
We would love to see your submission with a CZ600 Trail, even if it's outside regulations (rifle being clamped or lead sled).
@@PolenarTactical I think this rifle is extremely picky about ammo. I have tried a large number of factory loads (including S&B HPBT 77gr, Norma Golden target Match 77 gr, etc.) but the best results were achieved with my own reloads I mentioned abowe - Norma 69 gr GTX bullet (65740-1), 24.2 gr Lovex D073.4 powder (V0 = approx. 860 m/s) using S&B shells. This is my SUB-MOA ammo.
It should also be noted that I only shoot with a suppressor - I use an over-barrel Ase Utra Raiden. And scope - Vortex Strike Eagle 3-18x44 EBR-7C FFP MRAD with Seekins Precision 34 mm, height 1.26" (lapped).
Interestingly, when I then put a standard S&B 55 gr (or my own 55 gr reloads for plinking) in the rifle, not only is the dispersion around 2 MOA, but the POI is shifted by about 8cm(!!!) at 100m compared to the SUB-MOA ones.
@@pavelbojda758 my rifle groups 55gn S&B at 3 MOA, but that's probably because of the fast twist rate
I love this gun. Hate the stock
This would be kind of cool if it came chambered for a full power cartridge
The extendible butt stock is banned in many states in Australia.
Its banned in many states in Australia for appearance laws also !
Everything is banned in Australia 😑
@@PolenarTactical 🙄👎💩
Lol poor Aussie clowners
Australia sucks balls, move to America
You guys gotta get your shit together down there.
gen scinmore using this gun with a 30rnd mag and the mad minute technique would be interesting to see.
03:40 I dont think they are chromelined, mate. They make them nitrided.
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my bad
@@PolenarTactical no worries, love your content and style, just as Blokes/Chaps entertaining and informative at the same time!
God bless you and yours!
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I like it.
How did you change the trigger from two stage to a single stage trigger?
When you take the action out of the chassis you have access to screws that adjust different things on the trigger.
I have reduced the pre-travel to zero. So now when i cycle the bolt, the trigger is already on the wall, and when i apply more pressure it fires. I also removed almost all overtravel.
Besides the pull weight you can also adjust the actual sear engagement but i would not recommend doing that if you are not a professional.
After any adjustments i highly recommend you test the rifle by cycling the bolt (empty chamber) and then trying to hit or slam the rifle at a hard surface - if it fires, something is wrong. Also test the functionality of the safety.
@@PolenarTactical thank you for the info brother
Nice
Still more accurate than I could ever shoot 😂
Seems like a lot of accuracy problems can be tracked back to you in this video mainly cause your ammo selection and blaming the stock I’m not bashing I have a 7.62x39 and I agree with the stock part it does wiggle but to say it is a 2MOA gun is kinda wrong I’ve grouped 1MOA at 100 yards multiple times but I am also using a x39
Why don't u group it using a lead sled? remove factors like wobbly stock
I also tried it and got similar results - even on a lead sled you have to brace the buttstock against something
I prefer an old fashioned fudd looking stock .Sure it is more difficult to carry in your car but performance comes first .
I love the rifle. It looks to be everything that I want on paper, but I think I will wait for the second iteration due to the accuracy. I just can't get past the fact that it
is a bolt action with sub-standard accuracy compared to most other quality bolt actions in the same price range.
I would say that the price range is the true problem here - for the same price you can get a super accurate bolt action rifle or a couple of cheap "scout" rifles with same accuracy but without the collapsible stock. Yes, collapsible stock is a bit wobbly but it also gives it the iconic look and light weight
is it better than old 527 Karbine? disregard wood stock. is it worth it?
If 527 works for you, then there is absolutely no need to replace it. Those are some fine rifles
@@PolenarTactical im looking for one, but it is harder to find it for a price that's not the boomer "i know what i got" since they stopped making these. haha. 600 is easier to just buy... unfortunately "why not both" just doe$snt work :(
It is that potential accuracy which have prevented me to already buying this rifle.
Kind of wonder could cz release improved version with sturdier materials
like receiver made from steel and chassis from aluminium.
Stock would also love to get some improvements done to it.
One thing would be actuall ambi cheek rest while making it sturdier which doesnt flop around.
I know that those would increase price and weight but consept alone
is just too good to pass if accuracy would be line with their normal 600 series.
The accuracy is not such a big deal, especially for my use but i was still disappointed when i properly tested it. I was expecting much more from such a heavy barrel bolt action rifle
@@PolenarTactical I get how overall accuracy is acceptable but because of caliber
least we are limited up to roe deer what is biggest game animal we are legally allowed to hunt with it.
Raccoon dog,foxes etc are okay but general use for .222/223rem is grouse hunting in Finland.
And there those potential accuracy issues really hinders potential of that rifle.
We are talking about quite small vital area on distances potentially up to 300 meters.
So rifle needs to be mechanically very accurate.
Unfortunately this rifle is not gonna tick that box whitout conserns.
And that is bit sad because i like design and idea.
@@Kesssuli If you reload, the .300 BLK and 7.62x39 lets you go after some medium-sized game.
@@Tuulos You should know that .223,300blk and 7.62x39 are all in same class 2 category.
Best what i have heard that you can push 7.62x39 to class 3 kategory by doing overpressure reloads. Not exacly viable option there.
I have 30-06 already for bigger game if needed. What im kind of looking for is lighter and simpler .223rem rifle instead taking existing Ar which is bit heavy to carry around with a shotgun.
Has anyone made an aftermarket stock to mitigate the wobble?
not that i'm aware of
Sadly it doesn't have a nice foldable stock, otherwise i would have already bought one for myself. AR mags and grip are a must for me nowadays, well done cz.
Base on Washington State, this is an Assault Weapon!
While it might not be a precision rifle with 2 MOA, it's more than adequate for its intended purposes.
I completely agree but it also bothers me that i cant figure out why this isnt a sub MOA rifle 😆 I tried removing the handguard and even glass-bedded the plastic stock and inserted still pillars and that showed no change in accuracy
It's like a mystery, the longer i try to figure it out, more interesting it becomes
@@PolenarTactical is the barrel hot when you group?
Imagine putting a 60 round AR drum in this thing 😂
This as a semi auto be cool
Cz needs to sell this in a 9 inch 300blk pistol and/or sbr
YES!
Bolt action in .300 blk witj suppressor could be really quiet
that's why i want a short 300 blk barrel for it
Maybe I missed it but I hope we could get an update on Manca and baby Manca.
They are doing great. I did post a couple pictures on our Patreon but we dont want to share everything publicly.
Manca is now on maternity leave until the end of this year and then we will see if she still wants to be infront of the camera or do other stuff
is this available in California ?
I have no idea, would be best to contact CZ USA
Ever shot a cz 600 ergo? @ziga?
Hmm its like Mini 14 but bolt action without 5.56 Ammo option??
So you cant change stock to folding one or fix it?
Have the 600 trail and found the same problem at 100, 200m .
Wouldn’t group properly, a bit disappointed
It has 1:7 twist which is quite fast so it prefers heavier bullets. It does the worst with cheap 55gn ammo
I shoot 36 grain out of a 1/8 barrel.
(Brace yourself, I'm about to nerd out)
Assuming bullet construction is equal, a light bullet will stabilize in a fast twist, while a heavy bullet will not stabilize in a slow twist.
@@NelsonZAPTM maybe then light bullets have different construction or they stabilize ok but have much worse accuracy.
Or cheap 55gn just sucks.
Because in my experience it shoots quite worse, especially from fast twist barrels
My buddy just sent me a link of pew view giving this a scathingly negative review on insta for this rifle. Looks like he couldn’t get his to cycle at all. I know on my 527 I had to take the bolt guide/lip off and bend it in a bigger arch to allow for smoother cycling. Have you had any issues with bolt catching hanging up or feeding rounds?
Which caliber did he have?
Mine cycles fine but can have problems when using large AR magazines - if you rest the rifle with force on the magazine, push it too far forward or backwards it will have problems feeding. I actually had 2 jams like that on Lynx Brutality last year where i used this rifle.
The other thing is that it has a push ejection so you have to pull the bolt back with a bit of speed. If you do it very slowly, the casing will just fall off the bolt and stay in the action instead of throwing it out
@@PolenarTactical it looks like he is using the 300 blackout version if you go to his channel it’s his third most recent short he does not like it at all lol
@@negativeslim wow, seems like he has a lot of problems.
Im glad .300 blk wasnt available yet when i got mine because i would prefer it over .223
Im quite happy with mine but i feel like CZ has rushed this one to market. I believe they could make a much better rifles
@@PolenarTactical I agree. And with the barrel swap option now being neutered without jumping through hoops to get one, the true allure of this rifle is almost gone for me. Its really a shame because CZ is in my top 3 for manufacturers and i know they can do better. In fact they need to do better because this is a great concept & platform.
Dear CZ, bring back the 527s
One word of advice, change all your screws to Hex socket head, and you will stop stripping them
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But isn’t plastic fantastic?
🤣🤣🤣
Thanks for sharing, I must say, it is a cool connect.
However, I would like it to be a bit more accurate, maybe in the next generation…
And please CZ, bring back the quick barrel change!
So the bolt can not be switched to the right...
no
@@PolenarTactical THAT IS DISCRIMINATION, I WILL FILE A COMPLAINT WITH THE COMMUNIST PARTY OF THE CZECH REPUBLIC. THEY MUST TAKE THE PLIGHT OF THE LEFTISTS TO HEART. IT IS AN OUTRAGE. I got carried away there, didn't I? I will see myself out.
You just need a bigger scope!🤪
2 MOA at 100m will still put medium-size game and deer on the table.
2 MOA is really good but i would expect better from a bolt action rifle with heavy barrel
There were 3 blondes walking on a trail.
The first blonde said, "Those look like deer tracks."
The second blonde said "No those are totally moose tracks. "
The third blonde said, "Nope, they are goat tracks!"
Then a train hit them
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For a backpacking / ranch style rifle 2 moa is just fine, It’s not meant to be a precision match rifle
I am BOLT-curious.
Why no brake?
15x1 thread - i will shorten the barrel and thread it for 1/2-28 and probably use the suppressor
@@PolenarTactical That's disappointing, the weapon basically begs for the standard 1/2-28 thread.
@@Tuulos a couple of strange decisions - they put 16" barrel on the rifle for US but then they put M15x1 thread on it which is not that common even in Europe
One for the AlGoreRhythym 💪 🤙 🇺🇸
much appreciated 👍
Needs to be straight pull and it needs a bull barrel. No reason to have a bolt gun if it ain't a tac driver.
I thought this design was super cool until you look at the caliber, who the hell wants to pay 1000 bucks for a bolt action 223 😂.
A 2MOA bolt-action .223.
Ouch.
The Savage 110 pcs is a better deal. And it has a wider range of calibers.
It's from CZ. Quality isn't dirt cheap.
@@22leggedsasquatch A quality 2MOA rifle. If I wanted a quality 2MOA .223 I would buy an AR15 for the same price.
It is a chassis bolt action rifle and it is a $1k rifle that is a pretty good deal.
too bad its not available in .300blk or something similar
edit: oooh no way its available in .300blk now! I should have wished for a left hand variant instead. Feel bad now.
you wished for the wrong thing 😅
Why they not put picantiny on the back, to choose any stock that work with Rails?
And why they still screw the barrel, it should be made for good and stay there. I hate that idea of lego guns. Just choose right one and keep it.
You can't get 1 MOA because of the way you shoot - I can get less than 1 MOA with 69 grain match king and ~ 1MOA with 55 grain Blitz King - I have done this multiple times at 100m (110 yds) with 5 rounds per group. I agree its not a tack driver, but you can definitely get those groupings if you have good technique. For the record others have found the same, for example Chris Parkin (Chris Parkin Shooting Sports) got 0.752, 0.885 and 0.887 MOA with three different types of factory ammunition (5 rounds per group). I used a bipod as did Chris, no lead sleds or other forms of stability support.
Right in time!
We just issued a 1 MOA challenge and we're looking forward to your entry with the CZ600 Trail :)
more info in this video: ruclips.net/video/BM3SHvYosSs/видео.html
@@PolenarTactical You have already been proven wrong by Chris Parkin and myself. I've given you my results in good faith. Chris has published on youtube. I have no interest in your challenge, its meaningless in the real world. You don't set what is an acceptable standard neither does the "bloke on the range." You have been "shooting these damn things for a year", I was an Army marksman before you were born and Chris Parkin was an Olympic class archer (as per my other response). Training and technique matters.
@@VK6AB- i knew it!
Another keyboard commando.
Why do you allow to be humiliated in the comments like this? Just step up and do the challenge - if you shoot 1 MOA or better i will publicly apologise and give you credit for the achievement
@@PolenarTactical Lol, I don't seek your credit - you just can't shoot well and are not prepared to listen to those that gave you advice in good faith. That says far more about you than me. I suggest you develop a better attitude.
@@PolenarTactical I don't seek your credit - you just can't shoot well and are not prepared to listen to those that gave you advice in good faith. That says far more about you than me. I suggest you develop a better attitude.
Hmm. Cool rifle but for 6lbs without optics and that kind of accuracy I will stick with an ultralight AR build.
Its still odd to me how CZ could have gotten the CZ600 series so wrong on so many levels.
It would have been more excusable if it was a young company, but in CZ case; there’s really no excuses
How did they get it wrong?
If you are going to do sports with something, it can only be G3. 🤣
Too bad they just didn't go with a stout M4 collapsible stock instead.
that wouldn't be as compact
Nonsense the bolt is right where it needs to be i wouldn’t change it. The lee enfield is the same way.
Thanks for the review though lmao you always make me laugh man
it iz toz 106 but in fancy pants
I suggest everyone checkout the Chris Parkin youtube channel and watch his CZ600 trail findings. He found with three different factory loads it was possible to (easily) get submoa. I, as someone who qualified as a British Army marksman - on two different long arms was easily able to achieve the same. With three different types of ammunition. Instead Polenar tactical chooses to play the man, showing the world who he really is.
As a British Army marksman, how can you turn down the challenge and show us how it's done?
You just wrote that it's easily achievable 🙂
the ar-15 of Britain
The AR-15 of Britain is the AR-15, except they leave out the gas system and run it as a straight-pull.
@@jic1 I'd rather have this
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