INSTALLING A 6.4 HEMI TRUCK INTAKE MANIFOLD on a 5.7 Ram 1500!!(AMAZING RESULTS)
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Hey brother i know this is an older video, but im interested in doing the 6.4 manifold swap and i also want to run a catch can. What was the end result with your catch can set up brother?💯
Down graded from 2020 to 18 to save money so I may be doing this 😂 🙏🏽
Would be fun but I may just go with the shorties and a cat back
I think its a great idea that speed freaks would do
I really wish the Ram 1500 just came with a 6.4 straight from the factory.
That would be awesome maybe soon
Exactly. Rebel Tricerotops 4x4 1500 package with TRX rear end, + TRX lift springs and shocks, (basic big horn interior group with Power Wagon drivetrain. (Retaining 2wD mode)
GM and Ford both put the bigger engines in their half tons
Josue Villanueva then they need to drop a 7.0 or a 7.2 hemi in the 2500 👍💪
Personally I'd be interested instroke the 5.7 to a 400 then supercharger to my 2014 Ram 1500 !! More hp then that 6.4 !! Lol
I really wish folks would do a pre and post dyno run to gauge the effectiveness of these mods. That's the only way to show if the change is worth it. This comment is NOT just aimed at this channel, but ALL channels that claim increases from mods.
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What kind of tuner do you have
Would this work on an 08 1500? Lmk im wanting to build my truck currently just running a Diablo sport tune.
How much was the tune?
Man honestly i love people like steve i know 4 of them they are chill asf and iknow their stuff
I have a 2011 Ram 1500. I'm trying to do the same thing to swap out the manifold. Do you know what year charger? I need to get this 6.4 manifold out of?
You can get it from mmx or any 2014/2018 ram 2500 hemi 6.4 for ram trucks, and for chargers I would say the 392 or the srt8
How did your fule use
So that 6.4 manifold bolts right up to the 5.7 ?? That's sweet.
Yupp
I need find one for different vehicle
@@IncredibleHemi1111 I have a 05 hemi 5.7 would any year 6.4 manifold fit mine?
@@IncredibleHemi1111 what about my CAI does it got to be a 6.4 CAI?
@trapaholic4133 did you find out? mines an 05 too!
I have a 2012 ram 1500 my 6.4 intake came off a newer ram truck after installing it i got a bunch of codes now tractiion control light on deactivation #7 cylinder #7 injector open circuit battery light flashing any ideas where i went wrong o and it doesn't shift to 5th gear smh
Did you use the 6.4 injectors or kept your 5.7 with a spacer ? The 6.4 injectors need custom tuning for use in the 5.7, it sounds like you might have other issues as well .
Another good video and mod.
Thanx bro
What oil catch can do you have can you add a link. Your videos are awesome man and very helpful.
I really need help I just did this swap with a ported 6.4 manifold and 90mm tb also ported. Once I turn on the truck it make something at service electric control throttle body, would that be bc it’s not tune yet or did I do something wrong? If you can answer me I’ll highly appreciate
It marks something about *
What type a throttle body are you using ? Aftermarket ones very often have issues.
Think it fit the 5.7 Etorque 2021
cant wait for that 5.7 ported intake!
Hell yeah, ill be shipping Monday
Do u need the msd box for the switch like the car manifolds
No not on the trucks it's a direct swap just need to extent one a harness
What if you have a 6.4 manifold off a car can I get the mds for the long runners to work ? Or do I need a truck 6.4 ?
Good use of the time, can’t wait to see her back at the track
Thanx bro I got a more stuff coming but ill have time to dial it all in
The truck 392 is completely forged the whole way through, including the crank. No one else builds their motor that heavy. If they put that motor in the 1500, it really wouldn't do much good for performance. You'd be better off doing this to a 345ci. Plus cam, long tubes, and a tune, you could climb the hp pretty quick.
If you are running a 4x4 , wouldn’t you have better launches racing in 4x4 ? Isn’t any truck quicker in 4x4 versus 2x4? Third , do you only replace the rear transaxle ? Is your truck able to use 4x4 at all ?
I run 4x2 , its not difference in et in either ive ran both same day in back to back runs, n 4wd is 100% usable i still have same 3.21 gears up front n rear
Incredible Hemi thanks for the response . Keep doing what you do , us Ram guys learn a lot from you . Thanks
sounds awesome
do you know if it fits a ram 1500 with 5gen hemi? does hemi 6.4 maniflod from any year fit well? do you recommend buying it used?
There's no 5th generation hemi, it's 3gen hemi engine and 5th gen Ram body. Yes they will fit, engines are identical as long as they are 3rd gen hemi.
They go for 700-900 bucks used at that point just buy aftermarket
How did that oil catch can do for ya?
After installing the 6.4 manifold did you notice any daily economy gains? Just wondering with all that gain being down low if it helped the truck haul itself around town better haha.
Can u use your stock throttlebody? On the 6.4 also do u feel the 6.4 is better ported then just porting the 5.7?
Yes you can use the stock throttle body, the 6.4 uses the same as 5.7 , as for the porting it will depend on the other supporting mods you have done to the engine.
You think there are any gains on a stock 5.7? Any losses anywhere compared to the 5.7 manifold?
Absolutely HUGE gains on a stock 5.7 but u need a tune for it
@@IncredibleHemi1111 Thanks for the reply! So you’d recommend the 6.4 manifold over a ported stock 5.7 Ram manifold on a stock or light bolt-on truck?
Can u put link in description for all the stuff u needed to buy to make this intake work?
Moes performance and MMX sells the whole kit and everything you need when u buy it
amermuscle I was asking the same lol 😂
So is it not worth porting the stock 6.4 truck intake manifold? I just see the option to do it on Moes and MMX websites. Would it gain more power and torque I'd you did that? Or is it not worth the $350 dollars they're charging to do it?
Probably not worth it for $350, I might be porting it in the future i wanna see the gains with in unported first
@@IncredibleHemi1111 I got ya! I just ordered a cam kit for my truck!! Unfortunately parts are on back order and its gonna be early May before I get the whole kit delivered.. I've been wanting to do a supercharger but I may keep it NA since this is my only truck. I wanna buy a single cab and go all out on it.
What did it do to your mpg??? Asking bc mines a daily driver
Is a tune required?
Yes
thanks for the video
seems like there isn't alot of in depth
truck videos. just bought the mmx 6.4 for the 5.7 with full headers back
cant wait
No MSD kit for the active runners? Is this an older setup with VVT or did you just disable the active runners on the 6.4 intake for now?
Do not need an MSD kit its only needed for the car to upgrade to the 392 manifold
Steven Downing all newer ram 5.7’s have active runners
@@IncredibleHemi1111 Will I need a SRV control module like MSD or Z Automotive for a 2014 Ram Rt? I'm confused always thought you need it to take full advantage of this manifold. 🤔
@@Jr1987Gt Ram trucks already have an SRV module to control the runners.
I knew you couldn't end the vid without giving us some exhaust cam choppity chop action lol
Haha of course
Damn that intake looks monstrous
Yea its bigger, much better airflow
Incredible Hemi what you think about the vararam intake bro
Are you getting it tuned now
Yea we are already in the process of getting it dialed in
Cool I have a great tuner if you need one
Sounds freaking sweet I'm jealous. I hope I can get a 6.4 intake installed on my car someday. Dude I literally can't wait to see your new times at the track good luck brother!!!
Thanx man it should rip once we get it all dialed in
@@IncredibleHemi1111 does does Steve have his own shop? I tried to research it I was going to get a couple things done, do you have a number or an address?
Please and thank you
Did you use the stock 5.7 map sensor?
I just finished and loaded the tune.
Says map sensor is messed up.
Thx
Yes i reused stock
@@IncredibleHemi1111 Did you get a check engine light on for a runner selector low voltage?
How big is the opening on the 5.7 intake manifold ? And is the 6.4 the same size opening ?
Yes.
so im being told i wont get any gains doing an intake manifold swap/bigger TB unless i add Boost??
If I did this and ever needed a warranty claim, I could just say, "Hey, it came that way!" Ha ha ha!
Did you have the cam before the manifold?
Nice!
Why the 6.4 manifold over a ported 5.7 manifold?
I believe he had both but he's pushing more air than 5.7 can handle now.
Had the ported 5.7 did great but need more airflow to maximize my new setup
@@IncredibleHemi1111 Makes since, especially with the bigger cam.
Could you do a quick video on where you got the manifold, what all you need for the swap, and prices etc?
Don’t know where to get my hands on a 6.4 manifold either ? This would help
Is a 6.4 cold air intake needed with the 6.4 manifold? I see that it’s offered as an option when purchasing the 6.4 manifold from either moes or mmx
I’m sure if you want the full gains you will have too
Other than a tune, can you list parts ant their oem part numbers for ,e so can order them I been asking around for this mod for months n no one could tell me parts at first I asked jay a while back like a year ago n he didn't know exactly what would be involved cuz no one had done it back then yet lol, but now I keep seeing more of this 6.4 swap more often
U can order everything u need off of moes performance or MMX there kits come with everything needed
Incredible Hemi yea I just seen all your comments after I posted lol 😂 thnkx
did that catch can work? catched any oil?
And what were the gains off of this mod ?
Lighter wallet ! 😆
I really appreciate your vids but you have to slow down on moving the camera around so fast. Can’t get a chance to see what’s up
30 whp & 30ftlb... bolt on... that's a great bolt on... next on the list for winter 2020/21
Yea its a great mod for these 5.7 rams
What happened to the oil catch can at the end? Saw it was gone and you had a filter in place.
Saw that too. @incrediblehemi what's the word? Or was this a split edit from the demon can install??
Cant run catch cans on 6.4 intakes
Will this effect where my cold air intake sits at?
Yes, absolutely. The stock 5.7 throttle body sits straight up. When you swap to a 6.4, the the throttle body sits at 10 oclock. A top fitted CAI (the Vararam) wont work obviosly.
Hey mate.How easy was it to get the truck Intake manifold complete. Expensive? Salvage yard? Cheers. Great video.
Incredible hemi what numbers are u pulling on dyno? U have cam,tune, intake,anything else?
Awesome video. Are you using factory spark plugs? In the past too?
I changed them when I did the new cam I used ngk 4469
@@IncredibleHemi1111 thanks mon 😁
That air intake filter is disgusting. Replace it.
How many problems occur over time when u put different tunes in your system? I have heard Mopar is not very easy to work with
That's completely wrong I've but multiple tunes on per day n been doing that for years no issues
@@IncredibleHemi1111 are all your tunes from j green
@@patricksnyder3446 absolutely
How much flywheel horsepower do you think you have with this set up
Not not 550ish+ maybe 🤷♂️
@@IncredibleHemi1111 She sounds awesome. That cam really sounds off
Incredible Hemi. Honestly I would say your probably closer to 500+
Hey I just have a couple questions...so what cam do u have and what other internal parts did u start off with...I seen you did the 6.4 manifold and a cam with tune and cold air intake. Is that all you started with
Hello from Canada Nick! Another great video, and can not wait to see the improvement the intake will make!!
Wheres the throttle body
Im planning in buying the 6.2 manifold from modermuscel. Just not sure if i should upgrade my throttle body
Other than the manifold (which results in the higher horsepower and torque), what is the difference between the 5.7 and 6.4 Hemis? Like if I were to make this mod to my 5.7, would I technically have a 6.4? I’m new to this so I apologize for my lack of knowledge on the subject.
6.4 liter hemi has more cylinder displacement than the 5.7 hemi. Increasing piston diameter and Poston stroke will increase displacement, which is not cheap to do.
You would need the 392 badges and you're done.😜
I have an 05 ram 5.7. will it swap onto it also without any modifications
No the 05 5.7 is an older variant
What injectors are you running bro I’m thinking of getting the same manifold with hell cat injectors to go on e85 I heard I have to get tuned
Anytime you do anything you need to ahead and tune for it.
QUESTION !! Did you use the 5.7 og throttle body on the new 6.4?
The 5.7 n 6.4 use the same throttle body
Where do I place brake booster vacuum
There's a port to connect on the back of the intake.
i wonder if i can throw a 6.4 in my 03 Ram 2500 5.7 Hemi Magnum?? 🤔🤔
Yes ,it will fit in the bed ...
Dude 👌 so happy for you, so if I get the victor II do I need to change my torque converter and if you explain why
Yes definitely need a bigger converter and possibly higher gears for the victor 2 , it will make more power at the top then for 6.4 , i possibly could have benefitted more with it but don't wanna take the chance of possibly loosing more the 6.4 is a tq monster with great top end also
Incredible Hemi what if I do not do a torque converter ?
If I get a torque converter what kind do I need
Incredible Hemi which and where would you get a converter
Just did this mod yesterday. Thanks to the info on the hose connections this made everything a lot easier. Wish there was instruction for more in-depth installation as I didn’t know going into this that some of the brackets would not be reused. Your video helped with that so thank you.
any extra tips you could give me, ordering mine soon
@@forestfingerboarder make sure to order a Takayama Harnesses. This will make it plug and play for the rear cables this way you don’t have to cut factory wires like I had to. You can order this harness with the intake from moes performance. Also watch the 1auto video for disassembly but unlike their video you don’t need to remove the alternator or belt. I went with the 5.7 extensions for my fuel injectors instead of using the 6.4 fuel injectors. Make sure your Pcv valve in the back that comes with the new intake with fit your electrical plug, mine didn’t and I had to use old one and had to use deemed to get old pcv valve in position not a show stopper though.
@@bryancooper8201 how much of a difference did you notice and what other mods did you have or have?
@@vicer77 it wasn’t a crazy amount of difference but shorty after I got long tube headers, removed the clutch fan and changed my thermostat to the 180 degree but what helped with these the most was the tune. Now just waiting to install a cam to capitalize on the other things in vehicle.
@@bryancooper8201 so it sounds like you got that first. I have everything you mentioned with the exception of the cam . I also have SOS coils which made a surprisingly noticable difference. I plan on getting the manifold with throttle body so I hope that makes a big difference.
This will definately be next. 😈
Hell yeah this is a great upgrade for us ram guys
Nice bro nice. Can I put a 5.7 manifold on a 4.7 v8?
Look up airram performance for 4.7 info. Good mods for that engine
No idea bro look into what the guy other guy said
Incredible Hemi ok
is there not a connector from the 5.7 EGR ? what did you do with that ? it doesn't trip a trouble code ?
On exactly what truck would that intake manifold be in I thought the 6.4 was a diesal
Thanks Brother I have a 5.7 1500 Classic Quad Cab and I’m getting it going. I have a ported fastman TB, AFE Momentum GT Cold Air Intake, Stainleass works Headers w/ High Flow Cats, Stainless Works S-Tube Mufflers w/X-Pipe, and HP Tuners MPVI2. This is what I’m getting next and I’ll have it all installed. I’m gonna have Jay Green Tune my 5.7 I’m just unsure on the Fidanza Aluminum Flywheel and the Pulleys......?? But thanks for the video!
Do you know if by any chance doing the 6.4 manifold intake swap I can run e85??
No. The manifold will not make you e85 compatible.
@@DL101ca been running it for 7 months now no problems
Are you used the same spark plugs? Or the 6.4 needs a different ones?
Can 6.4 manifold fit the 4.7
Who taught this guy how to extend wires, crimp connectors are a weak fix. Solder and heat shrink would be the correct way to extend those wires.
It's only for the srv actuator, not your airbag...if it ever malfunctioned it wouldn't be a big deal.
Good thing it’s plastic and not like the old days cast iron.
Do we really need a tune or is it safe to run it like that for a while
Need a tune if u are using the 6.4 injectors
@@IncredibleHemi1111 2 years 2 late what did you do for a tune? I have a Diablo sport that can adjust spark but not injectors so do you have your own software or did you have to get a tune from somewhere? Zero places offer tuning software for private people as far as I can tell but if you see this lmk!
@@rthrclrk he's tuned by Jay Greene. So am I, using a Diablo tuner.
Did you use the same 5.7 tb or need a new one
I have same tb , 84 mm fastman
Thanks bro
Did you use your factory throttle body or the 6.4 throttle body? Hear people say this swap works well for low end torque did you find this to be true? Also I’m looking at doing this on my pickup for towing trailer purposes is it suitable for that?
I had a true bore throttle body I used, the 6.4 n 5.7 uses the same throttle body
Where did you get that breather from?
Amazon
@@IncredibleHemi1111 thank you Just want to let you know that you inspired me to build my 2020 ram currently have ARH headers with tune and now recently picked up the 6.4 manifold from moes
@@IncredibleHemi1111 also if you don’t mind putting the link to the breather I would appreciate that!
Will it run on 6.4 injectors with out the tune
It will start but probably stall or could damage something , im not sure tho
@@IncredibleHemi1111 reason is because I have the complete set up but no fuel rail shims ....can't find what shims it needs
WHAT PARTS WOULD I NEED FOR A 2008 HEMI 5.7 RAM
Did you drill that intake elbow for the IAT sensor with the elbow in place on the truck!?
Yea
@@IncredibleHemi1111 not worried about shavings getting into the engine? Thanks for the reply man... Sick truck BTW! I drive a 2019 Ram Classic and will be modding it soon. You've inspired me...
@@High_Desert_Tanner i misread your comment no i took it off to drill , didn't see where u said while on truck
What I need to know, will the 6.4 fit on the 2005 5.7? Also what are the differences in power gains?
No its for a vvt. Won't fit on yours from my knowledge
6.1 will
So for the 6.4 intake manifold on the 5.7 do you have to get an actuator for the active runners?? Or can you just install the manifold without touching the active runners and when they come on?
If it was a car yea rams have it already
Dude I love your channel and info.
That truck is beast hell of a job.
I got a 6.4 intake manifold.
Do you happen to know the part # for the egr block off adapter by MMX?
I can't find it.
Thanks man. Good shot. Keep it up.
What is the best manifold for a 2012 ram hemi 5.7 because ive seen people do the 397 or a 6.4 but i see that holley has some also and a few other brands what is the absolute best for numbers one for horsepower and another for torke
And what cold air goes with it and throttle boddy which is the best
For NA these 6.4 manifolds are putting up the best numbers
Incredible Hemi thank you what about a throttle body to go with it?
I call bullshit. The 6.4 intake on a truck 5.7 will not give you 300hp.
Considering it says 30hp n not 300 lol 😆
OoOoOo mOrNInG ViD
Yes sir I prefer moring videos
Where can I get a ported 5.7 intake
Mmx sells them
@@IncredibleHemi1111 would I need to get a tune/chip
No they will direct bolt on but will be better with one
6:45 Oddly satifying!
Did you use the 5.7l TB on the 6.4L manifold or did you get a new one? Thanks
This compared to victor II ?
The victor 2 will produce more power on the top end and will need more cubes n more converter
Incredible Hemi. Two plain is better for torque in a heavier vehicle, like a truck.
I'm doing the MSD intake manifold for my 6.2 denali 18 then 90 mm throttle body from bbk