Hello DonnySRT I have a real important question did you have to tune the intake afterwards? Because I heard you had tune a intake dodge doesn’t do that for you I’m looking for someone to do it for me. I have a K&N air tank it cost me around 650 and I don’t want to install it until I really know I have to tune it.
Where would you recommend finding one? I’m sure there are used ones available somewhere, but I’m nervous about eBay. Or do you think I should just buy a new one? Love the channel, tons of thoroughly helpful videos. Appreciate them all.
Donny question I’m having some issues with my scat pack. I have oil lick around the manifold intake also under. would it be a good idea for me to remove it and see what is going on? I was thinking of taking it to the dealer but I don’t want them to come with some story.
Were you able to reuse the 5.7 map sensor or did you have to buy the one you mentioned in parts video ? Also did that new map sensor plug the same as I know when I did this swap on my ram I had to use the 5.7 map sensor as the 6.4 was a different size.
If I don’t get the window switch cause I have a mds delete and gonna get it tuned cause just put cam lifters etc would it work still? And I didn’t tap into the intake temp control or map sensor I just connected everything normal ? Is that bad
So I’m in the process of doing this mod, the manifold is on except the harness I’ll be doing that this weekend but rn I keep getting a engine check light, I looked at the code and apparently it’s says “Intake Air Temperature Sensor 1 Circuit High Input” what should I do
What did you do about the fuel line being in a new location for the new intake manifold? I have an 08 5.7 with the 392 manifold and the fuel line does not reach around to the new spout. Any advice is much appreciated!
Hptuners has an option to turn on the SRV in the 5.7 tunes , i always saw that option and wondered what it does . I think you can enable it from the pcm itself wothout the msd box
Z-automotive has a way easy & cheaper option for the SRV, just got mine few days back. Waiting for dyno guys to pull up, to do a stock run well kinda stock (hellcat intake, srt full exhaust .25" bigger).
You should tune your when adding performance upgrade if you want the full performance. And you need a better CAI.. Its not inclosed and you are sucking hot air..
What control module do you 5.7 guys recommend to control the active runners when installing a 6.4 intake manifold? I’d like to add this mod before adding a wet plate nitrous system.
No you dont need them. Plugs may actually be the same. Gaskets are the same. Bought them from the 6.4 for my swap with my cam,tech skipped the intake due to wiring and the gaskets fit perfectly.
Can you please tell me two things... can I plug my MAP without having to lengthen the wire? Also, can I drive my car without the harness installed into the actuator (still waiting on all electrical parts to arrive), and if so once my manifold is installed to the engine block would I be able to clip the plug into the rear of the Manifold without unbolting it again? Thanks!
No, you need to lengthen the MAP sensor. And yes, you can plug in the actuator while the manifold is installed but it is pretty difficult in my opinion
Okay, can you briefly describe that process? And what type of wiring was used? Also I heard that there were two which needed to be lengthen. Is there only one? Also is there ANY added benefit using the 6.4 fuel rails and injectors over stock? I have a custom tune so either is no huge deal?
Hey donny I have done the 6.4l intake swap as well and a cam my tuner has shown me that straight drop in the curve when on the dyno it dyno fine before the cam swap just wanted to know if you think they might have hooked it up wrong after they did the cam
@DonnySRT intake doesn't sound like a bad mod to put on. I want to put one on mine, maybe slap on some exhaust and a cold air intake, put a tune on it, maybe then could we at least beat an SRT? All those mods would be at least over 2000$ for bolt ons
Just started gathering the parts. I have the intake complete from a car with only 2500 miles. Question....do I need the msd 8969 or will a jegs performance intellitronix n3211 do the same thing? About 150.00 difference? Fantastic videos btw. Can't wait to get started. Swapping cams from the same car as well. Mine is a 2015 Challenger R/t plus.
The reason I stuck with the MSD switch is because of previous documentation and that is has a history with this application. I am sure that you can get other ones to work, but I haven't seen anyone use that specific Jegs one yet
It will but you need a bracket for the 6.4 that attaches the bottom plate of the shaker to the engine. It has also been discontinued by mopar. So locating one will be difficult. I was told by my local dodge dealership that there was only one brand new one left in the country when I was looking for mine. I live in pa and it was in nc. Needless to say I bought it.
Hey Donny maybe you can shed some light onto this. This was posted on a Fb page about the msd circuit boss not working. ATTENTION 6.4L MANIFOLD SWAPPERS WHO USED THE MSD/CIRKIT BOSS Andrew Wehlage and I have been meticulously going over the MSD setup vs the PCM method I’m using. After many nights of testing, looking at prints, finding proper pin out and MANY MANY other things. We can both confirm along with a 3rd party...that the MSD IS NOT...IS NOT controlling your Short Runner Valve...for those that are tech savvy here’s where it gets long...pin 1-2 on the SRV plug are 12v and ground...when energized it will function check the STEPPER MOTOR inside the SRV...to get the stepper motor to “open” it’s needs to seen a 5v signal on the microprocessor INSIDE the SRV which then tell a PIC chip to switch a mosfet that goes to a H Bridge that tells the motor which direction to operate...it will not WILL NOT return from that state until it is told. And there’s no possible way using only pin 3 in the SRV from the MSD is switching both ways...not to mention it sends out 12-14v on a 5v system..it would immediately pop that circuit.. if I can be proved wrong I would GLADY love to listen...but butt dynos and blips in charts don’t tell me it’s actually working...more than anything the 12v side is just powered up via latching relay at desired RPM and the Short Runner Valve does it’s function check at the RPM.
Guess he figured it out. This his updated post. I STAND CORRECTED!! IT WORKS AND I WAS WRONG!!! The MSD/Cirkit boss does work inside the manifold. The load on the motor was much higher than anticipated. That being said. Video proof of me being wrong! I’m sorry to all who may have either sold/took off or returned their MSD setup. EDIT: This method works, but I have also developed a different way of moving the runners. A way cheaper and cleaner system using the PCM pinouts and power/ground from your PDC. The plug is $50 and all you need is for your tuner (HPT and CMR) to turn it on the program and set runner value. Similar wiring time, pinning the PCM may scare some people but it’s not that hard. My plug only works on 2011+ cars with 5.7’s.
The actuator pin: with the red part on top Pin 1 positive Pin 2 ground Pin 3 yellow msd Msd Red is positive Black is ground White goes to negative of injector
And also idk this might be a dumb question but this can fit into my 5.7 hemi challenger rt ? Right ? Because I found one 392 manifold on eBay but for charger
If anyone is doing the by piecing it all together new. Don’t forget the Pcv valve. It looks like the one from the 5.7 but it is not the same. Really ruined my day when I found out 🤦♂️
Awesome vids man! Question, I ordered the MAP sensor through the link provided in your parts video but when I got the part, it's way too small so it's not a snug fit in the hole used for the map sensor. Is there another part that I am missing? I can't find much online either
@@DonnySRT Disregard my comment, I made a noob mistake and didn't fully insert the sensor. Thanks for getting back to me though! Can't wait to do the swap in a few days
@@DonnySRT not even that my guy. It’s just that the video you made wasn’t the description I needed for my scat pack twin all good and gravy glad you “know” how it’s done. Great Job keep Believing and he will and Bless you ! Have a great day bud. Glad your video came by !
Thanks for the support recently guys! The part number for the wiring kit from mopar is 68064996AA.
Hello DonnySRT I have a real important question did you have to tune the intake afterwards? Because I heard you had tune a intake dodge doesn’t do that for you I’m looking for someone to do it for me. I have a K&N air tank it cost me around 650 and I don’t want to install it until I really know I have to tune it.
Where would you recommend finding one? I’m sure there are used ones available somewhere, but I’m nervous about eBay. Or do you think I should just buy a new one? Love the channel, tons of thoroughly helpful videos. Appreciate them all.
You da man. It’s videos like these that make RUclips great
Love mine, very noticeable difference. Car keeps pulling and runs way happier! My intake temps also dropped.
It's definitely worth the pain in the ass install and wiring haha
mannnn these 6.4L intakes helllaaaa expensiveee T-T, awesome video tho gonn def save up and install huhu
Glad I found your video! Exiting days to come!
Hopefully you found is useful!
Well I'm watching a two year old video, but found ot very informative
You flipped your throttle body to the inside so you didn’t have to extent your throttle position sensor?
Just gained another follower I'm ready for this mod
Donny question I’m having some issues with my scat pack. I have oil lick around the manifold intake also under. would it be a good idea for me to remove it and see what is going on? I was thinking of taking it to the dealer but I don’t want them to come with some story.
Were you able to reuse the 5.7 map sensor or did you have to buy the one you mentioned in parts video ? Also did that new map sensor plug the same as I know when I did this swap on my ram I had to use the 5.7 map sensor as the 6.4 was a different size.
I want to do this to my 08 rt I know they're different heads but can it still be installed without any other mods?
If I don’t get the window switch cause I have a mds delete and gonna get it tuned cause just put cam lifters etc would it work still? And I didn’t tap into the intake temp control or map sensor I just connected everything normal ? Is that bad
So I’m in the process of doing this mod, the manifold is on except the harness I’ll be doing that this weekend but rn I keep getting a engine check light, I looked at the code and apparently it’s says “Intake Air Temperature Sensor 1 Circuit High Input” what should I do
Did u use the 5.7 inTake on the 6.4 manifold
What did you do about the fuel line being in a new location for the new intake manifold? I have an 08 5.7 with the 392 manifold and the fuel line does not reach around to the new spout. Any advice is much appreciated!
This looks cool kinda like the Ls engines with interchangeable intakes I look forward to my own build soon
Can you guide me for the wirering kit am doing the same on my 07 R/T can I get a link pls
dm me on instagram
is this doable on gen 2 hemis?
What intake is a good option?
Hptuners has an option to turn on the SRV in the 5.7 tunes , i always saw that option and wondered what it does . I think you can enable it from the pcm itself wothout the msd box
I think doctor differential has been working on figuring that out. It would be cool
Z-automotive has a way easy & cheaper option for the SRV, just got mine few days back. Waiting for dyno guys to pull up, to do a stock run well kinda stock (hellcat intake, srt full exhaust .25" bigger).
Is the throttle body supposed to be upside down like that?
How’s the car because it been running?
The little red breather filter what size is it and where did you happen to get it from?
What about the vacumm line from the purge what did you do with that
You should tune your when adding performance upgrade if you want the full performance. And you need a better CAI.. Its not inclosed and you are sucking hot air..
Do y put have a video on how you did the wiring for the air sensor?
Is this swap possible on a 2005-2009 charger?
And where can you find a 350.00 392 intake manifold?
Facebook marketplace or forums.
I got it for 400$ you need to be lucky to find one for that price
Did you need spacers for your 5.7 injectors on 6.4 manifold?🙏
No
Can I put this on a 6th gen
Would I need a tune for this bro??
I have a 5.7 07 charger rt awd what all will I need
Do you think there will be a difference in performance if I stay with the stock fuel rails over the 6.4
No. The fuel rails won’t make a difference
anyone know the part number for the module for the active runners ? Best place to buy it for the price? Definitely doing this manifold swap soon.
How much stuff are you going to have to reverse to smog your car in california ??
I can follow this guide to do this swap on my 2020 Durango rt? Or is it too different from the charger?
Do you think this would work on a 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.7 Hemi?
I can’t find the wiring harness anywhere bro where did you get yours ?
Links in description
Can I add a 392 hemi throttle body from a 2019 charger scatpack to my 2013 ram 1500 5.7 hemi?
What control module do you 5.7 guys recommend to control the active runners when installing a 6.4 intake manifold?
I’d like to add this mod before adding a wet plate nitrous system.
When you did the 392 swap did you have to upgrade the gasket and spark plugs to a 392
No you dont need them. Plugs may actually be the same. Gaskets are the same. Bought them from the 6.4 for my swap with my cam,tech skipped the intake due to wiring and the gaskets fit perfectly.
Uk yo stuff man love yo channel bro 🔥
Aye bro will this work for the Durango rt 2021??
Would all that apply to a 2008 5.7
It may be different due to the older style heads but idk
I don’t believe this bolts into the pre-eagle heads
Can you please tell me two things... can I plug my MAP without having to lengthen the wire? Also, can I drive my car without the harness installed into the actuator (still waiting on all electrical parts to arrive), and if so once my manifold is installed to the engine block would I be able to clip the plug into the rear of the Manifold without unbolting it again? Thanks!
No, you need to lengthen the MAP sensor. And yes, you can plug in the actuator while the manifold is installed but it is pretty difficult in my opinion
Okay, can you briefly describe that process? And what type of wiring was used? Also I heard that there were two which needed to be lengthen. Is there only one? Also is there ANY added benefit using the 6.4 fuel rails and injectors over stock? I have a custom tune so either is no huge deal?
The tune needs to be adjusted for the injectors. I have numerous videos on this process on my channel
@@DonnySRT any benefit to using them performance wise ?
Well done! Great info !!
Hey donny I have done the 6.4l intake swap as well and a cam my tuner has shown me that straight drop in the curve when on the dyno it dyno fine before the cam swap just wanted to know if you think they might have hooked it up wrong after they did the cam
Which rpm did it worked best for you for the MSD shor runner rpm?
Would this be similar on a 2010 r/t
Where did you get the manifold from for that cheap
Facebook marketplace
Do you gap hellcats or no?
In my R/T?? Absolutely not lol
@DonnySRT intake doesn't sound like a bad mod to put on. I want to put one on mine, maybe slap on some exhaust and a cold air intake, put a tune on it, maybe then could we at least beat an SRT? All those mods would be at least over 2000$ for bolt ons
after doing this should you tune it ?
I would
Did you adjust anything on tune after install?
I like your channel better than RT Life since he abandoned his entire cause for his channel and I never liked him much anyway.
Lol sounds personal 😂
I was wondering why all his videos were 2 years old. What happened he get a v6 infinity or something ?
I never could stand his videos. He's got to be the most clueless "car guy" to ever make a video.
@@justinhensley9110 Same.
What RT life are we talking about because the one I watch makes videos almost everyday
Did you experience a cylinder 3misfire when you added to your intake to your or notice your car has shake to it now??
Nope... that's a vacuum leak or a wiring issue
I’m wondering if the cold air intake from a 5.7 fit on a 6.4 intake manifold? Anyone know???
Nope. Needs to be modified to fit
What’s your intro song called?
night lovell - deira city centre
You should go E85 and re run rt drod
I would like to. I’m just afraid of how loud e85 makes the car. Don’t wanna attract too much attention
DonnyR/T understandable I hope y’all end up collaborating more often though I loved the video with the both of y’all
Drod is a solid dude. We plan to meet up more in the future to hang out. Thank you for the support!
Just started gathering the parts. I have the intake complete from a car with only 2500 miles. Question....do I need the msd 8969 or will a jegs performance intellitronix n3211 do the same thing? About 150.00 difference? Fantastic videos btw. Can't wait to get started. Swapping cams from the same car as well. Mine is a 2015 Challenger R/t plus.
The reason I stuck with the MSD switch is because of previous documentation and that is has a history with this application. I am sure that you can get other ones to work, but I haven't seen anyone use that specific Jegs one yet
I own the same car let me know how yours turns out bud
oops am a day late on this one.was out of town yay.
\edit: congrats on 2.02k current reading.
No worries bro! I hope you enjoyed your trip!
How much power is your car making
Just recently went to a dyno! ruclips.net/video/A4bES-H3jBI/видео.html
will the 6.4 manifold fit shaker?
It will but you need a bracket for the 6.4 that attaches the bottom plate of the shaker to the engine. It has also been discontinued by mopar. So locating one will be difficult. I was told by my local dodge dealership that there was only one brand new one left in the country when I was looking for mine. I live in pa and it was in nc. Needless to say I bought it.
Hey Donny maybe you can shed some light onto this. This was posted on a Fb page about the msd circuit boss not working.
ATTENTION 6.4L MANIFOLD SWAPPERS WHO USED THE MSD/CIRKIT BOSS
Andrew Wehlage and I have been meticulously going over the MSD setup vs the PCM method I’m using. After many nights of testing, looking at prints, finding proper pin out and MANY MANY other things. We can both confirm along with a 3rd party...that the MSD IS NOT...IS NOT controlling your Short Runner Valve...for those that are tech savvy here’s where it gets long...pin 1-2 on the SRV plug are 12v and ground...when energized it will function check the STEPPER MOTOR inside the SRV...to get the stepper motor to “open” it’s needs to seen a 5v signal on the microprocessor INSIDE the SRV which then tell a PIC chip to switch a mosfet that goes to a H Bridge that tells the motor which direction to operate...it will not WILL NOT return from that state until it is told. And there’s no possible way using only pin 3 in the SRV from the MSD is switching both ways...not to mention it sends out 12-14v on a 5v system..it would immediately pop that circuit.. if I can be proved wrong I would GLADY love to listen...but butt dynos and blips in charts don’t tell me it’s actually working...more than anything the 12v side is just powered up via latching relay at desired RPM and the Short Runner Valve does it’s function check at the RPM.
Hey there. This is a very interesting topic. Can you link me to the Facebook post?
@@DonnySRT facebook.com/groups/345616196522381/permalink/393498388400828/
And I think your name and channel were mentioned in a comment.
Guess he figured it out. This his updated post.
I STAND CORRECTED!! IT WORKS AND I WAS WRONG!!!
The MSD/Cirkit boss does work inside the manifold. The load on the motor was much higher than anticipated. That being said. Video proof of me being wrong!
I’m sorry to all who may have either sold/took off or returned their MSD setup.
EDIT: This method works, but I have also developed a different way of moving the runners. A way cheaper and cleaner system using the PCM pinouts and power/ground from your PDC. The plug is $50 and all you need is for your tuner (HPT and CMR) to turn it on the program and set runner value. Similar wiring time, pinning the PCM may scare some people but it’s not that hard. My plug only works on 2011+ cars with 5.7’s.
@@blkhemi8084 very interested 🤔 tell me more
do ya’ll know if this voids warranty?
Probably
Wouldn't it be better to just buy an aftermarket manifold?
Depends on your application. For most people, no.
Do you have a wire diagram for the setup? If so can you send it to me?
Dale Bower dm me on Instagram
@@DonnySRT just did
can i have it too?
The actuator pin: with the red part on top
Pin 1 positive
Pin 2 ground
Pin 3 yellow msd
Msd
Red is positive
Black is ground
White goes to negative of injector
Does it fit a 2012 crysler 5.7 ?
I don’t see why not
Hey brotha good video , do you have a link for the 392 manifold ? Kinda hard to find honestly
And also idk this might be a dumb question but this can fit into my 5.7 hemi challenger rt ? Right ? Because I found one 392 manifold on eBay but for charger
Your best luck finding one will be either on Facebook groups or forums. I found mine on facebook marketplace
@@DonnySRT I found one but says charger but it’s the exact same manifold , 392. I can still use it for my challenger right ?
They're the same engine
It might be worth contacting your CAI company and ask if you can just buy a new tube for the 6.4 instead of buying a new CAI
Bro I tried. The tube didn’t fit my other heat shield and it defeated the purpose
If anyone is doing the by piecing it all together new. Don’t forget the Pcv valve. It looks like the one from the 5.7 but it is not the same. Really ruined my day when I found out 🤦♂️
Sweet 🎉
Awesome vids man! Question, I ordered the MAP sensor through the link provided in your parts video but when I got the part, it's way too small so it's not a snug fit in the hole used for the map sensor. Is there another part that I am missing? I can't find much online either
Hey there. This is the first time someone has told me of this kinda issue. Is there a part number etched onto the sensor?
@@DonnySRT Disregard my comment, I made a noob mistake and didn't fully insert the sensor. Thanks for getting back to me though! Can't wait to do the swap in a few days
Awesome Donnie《☆》Definitely worth the money & elbow grease for diy project🤓👍🏾:*: Greetings from⛾Florida🤳my friend🤓🗣🔊☮✌👍🏾
Definitely a fun but annoying project haha
Damn is it really worth it spending all that for a tiny increase of power
I ask myself this about every thing I've done to this car
Hey Cooper! ( I have labs myself. Lol)
Labs are my favorite! 🐕
Another great vid
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Ay thanks man. Hope the new manifold is treating you well
@@DonnySRT honestly.. idk yet lmfao but I wouldn't go back to stock
L. Video
@@DakNotPresCott try making one yourself! Show me how it’s done.
@@DonnySRT not even that my guy. It’s just that the video you made wasn’t the description I needed for my scat pack twin all good and gravy glad you “know” how it’s done. Great Job keep Believing and he will and Bless you ! Have a great day bud. Glad your video came by !
@@DakNotPresCott I hope you have a blessed day yourself. What are you looking for? Maybe I can point you in the right direction.
@@DonnySRT my o-rings are bad supposedly to my intake manifold gasket .. just trying to find how to take off my manifold and replace my o rings
Would this apply to an 07 pursuit 5.7
I don’t think so since it doesn’t have eagle heads
how about 2012 hemi
Would you recommend going with the 6.4 injectors and fuel rails or staying with the 5.7?
Keep the 5.7
@@DonnySRT ok thank you. Did you have to buy a wide band or is that optional?
I want to do this to my 08 rt I know they're different heads but can it still be installed without any other mods?
No, you need adapters and have to deal with EGR