Labiaplasty: The Horrifying Story of Why Women Hate Their Vulva
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CHAPTERS
0:00 Introduction
10:51 Sheela na gigs
15:07 Thong feminism
21:14 Labia hypertrophy
33:25 Female g*nital rejuvenation surgery = s*xual satisfaction
39:02 The cost of confidence
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drive.google.com/file/d/1QyTF...
NOTE: For those interested, I’d just like to explain why I used the 2020 Plastic Surgery Statistics Report published by the American Association of Plastic Surgeons rather than the 2022 Plastic Surgery Report. For pretty self-explanatory reasons, the 2022 report chose to only include statistics on patients aged 18-19 whereas the 2020 report included data on patients aged 13-19. The 2022 report makes it seem as if the number of labiaplasty patients has gone down when, actually, going off the footnotes data is only included for 18-19 year olds. The 2022 footnote reads: “While patients under the age of eighteen may access plastic surgery procedures under physician guidance and with the approval of a parent or guardian, this is atypical and the majority of cases within this data set are focused on the ages eighteen to nineteen years” (p.p.20). Both reports can be accessed freely online.
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Telling women to get surgery if sex hurts instead of telling men to get good is everything wrong with society
The sad reality is that, for American women, at least, it is likely the genital surgery inflicted on her male partner as a baby that is causing her pain now. More surgery won't fix that.
All boys have mothers, what we need is to finally have a generation of good mothers, preferably single ones so we can have lots of influence and control and teach our children right
so tired of all the f ups
@@OUpsychChickso people just need to leave children’s and adults genitals tf alone basically, famous quote “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”
@@OUpsychChickheyyyyyyyyy, what an interesting and insightful comment! I know exactly what you mean and I agree!
@@OUpsychChick such a good point
Young men's expectations have been completely destroyed by pornography. Alot of women in porn have had a labiaplasty.
It’s so sad. This is why I could not be in a relationship with a man that watches porn
@@ameliasoraya7033on the bright side I find men are typically willing to engage in conversations about this. Many watch with their blinders on and genuinely don’t realize the issues associated because the marketing online is so strongly in favor of porn. When you have open conversations with them about the industry they’re pretty responsive and start noticing patterns in their physical responses to porn that harm themselves, as well. They won’t all stop watching but it does tend to change what they look for.
@@ameliasoraya7033I'm sorry but that's 99,999 percent. It's rich to assume everyone's mindbend.
@@gur262 believe it or not but there are men out there who don’t watch porn when they are in relationships. Personally, I don’t like porn and I do believe it is bad for both men and women. I have my reasons but I’m not going to tell you to stop.
@@ameliasoraya7033 good luck finding a blind man
Imagine getting that far with a woman just to complain about something so petty. Porn is truly ruining people's perceptions of reality.
Also, body dysmorphia amongst both sexes is getting out of control.
I agree and to add to your second point, the lack of education for women in general what is normal versus societal expectations is extremely saddening, leading to even more internal body shaming.
If you can have your perception ruined that bad, IMO that's a YOU problem, not the stimulus in the world that supposedly 'made' you think that way.
@@vazzaroth 🗑️ take
Imagine putting women on such a high pedestal that you view having sex with us as some magical event...... Pathetic.
"Most men's exposure to labia is via the internet" - sick burn!
I was expecting her to say …”in person”😅😅😭
In a world where women make fun of guys junk size
I don’t feel even a drop of sympathy
"at birth"
The burn is double edged, that means y’all ain’t getting any either
@@nobodythenobody9779 do we want that though? 😂
Trips me out. Doctors will be ok with a labiaplasty, but if a woman says she wants a hysterectomy - no.
I guess that depends what country you live because I’m in the UK They hand out hysterectomies for free
One is removing your entire reproductive system.
The other is cutting off skin.
It's not the same
Removing a whole organ can't compare to an "aesthetic" procedure, it has more risks
@@katitadeb it really shouldn't be hard to understand?
That’s like a man going to get his testes removed. No surgeon would ever say yes to that unless cancer was involved. Wtf is wrong with ppl wanting to remove organs because they’re inconvenient?
I think if a man is grossed out by a woman's labia and that's a deal breaker, he probably just wasn't all that attracted to her to begin with.
I think we can extened this further. Any man that is that neurotic about Vaginas is not a heterosexual.
Honestly find the obsession with genitals a bit strange, do they work, ok, we're good then.
say the same about a p*nis and see how few people agree with you. people are allowed to consider their partner's junk towards attraction.
He’s either gay or attracted to little girls
although I watch pron, chaturbate circebubbly labia is my fav type
I’m so annoyed at how plastic surgery is now always sold as a tool to self confidence. Because nothing says self acceptance like risking your life for the sake of vanity.
yeah i hate that to me its not empowering. i get being upset with your body but getting plastic surgery doesn't indicate to me confidence. wouldn't it be better if they accepted themselves?
Your vanity (Construct)
Your vanity, or your sanctuary
well said
As opposed to being treated like shit by society due to being ugly? How is that vain?
🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
I have an "innie" and every man who has ever complimented it has done so by insulting other women. I've never felt flattered by it, just horrified that they care. It's like judging the appearance of the inside of someone's ear.
Exactly I dont understand why society is extermley superficial and carnal these days
Did you still stay with those men after their gross comments?
Exactly!
I'm guessing you wouldn't want to change it though? Maybe not flattered but you must have some ego boost. If the innie became an outtie I imagine you would not be happy.
@@ferrisbueller9991 You cant speak for ppl and besides she wouldn't be aware of it being an issue if no guy had told her that in the first place
I would love to have a glimpse of the world if women could exist without trauma from the pressures of desirability and the trauma of sexual abuse
The way outfits would be so slay
The way certain clothing and designers simply wouldn’t exist
Who desires this? The very thought is terrifying!
Edit: oh I see, 'adult' content, most people wouldn't even be aware of this stuff without it
I daydream of that often. I wonder how many women do the same. Such a freeing world that will never be
@@MariEilf maybe the afterlife will be something along those lines
I got teary watching this. I remember hearing boys growing up laughing about how "disgusting, used up, and loose" women are that have a long labia. It always made me depressed, because I was a little girl with a large labia, and I hadn't even had my period yet, let alone had sex. I continued to hear this messaging from all kinds of men, and women too sometimes, for years afterwards. I wanted a labiaplasty so badly, until I finally had my first sexual experiences, and every boyfriend I have had has loved it. It helped me realize that what I had was normal.
I wish i had your experience 😭 my labia isnt long but my areolas are pretty freakin big so hearing jokes about pepperoni nipples all my life really gave me a complex about them. Every guy that ive ever been with knew that i was insecure about my boobs because im really shy with them at first, like i dont want to show them and when i do i have to make sure my nipples are rock hard because it makes them look a little smaller and “prettier”. No guy has ever said anything mean to me about them, and some guys ive dated have tried to make me feel better but i just always get the sense that they are lying and they would prefer if i had smaller areolas. Like i almost feel like a disappointment to them because i have big boobs but they are revealed to be not pretty. But then i get angry that i feel that way because its their fault that i feel so bad in the first place, and they are LUCKY to be with me at all, plus like what were they expecting!?! A lot of girls with big boobs have big areolas because they get stretched out from the size?? I dont think i will ever love my boobs but thankfully the rage i feel WILL prevent me from ever getting plastic surgery
@@baddieMario77 I have both, large areolas and a longer labia. And honestly, girl? I love the areolas. I know this prolly doesn't make it any better since I'm just a random stranger, but I learned to love them, I think big areolas are so aesthetic and sexy, both on me and on other women. Screw the guys who think large areolas aren't pretty - if they expect us to have big boobs and tiny nipples, they're just porn addicted losers. Not to mention that the areolas are a sensitive area, so the bigger this area is, the more stimulation you can get from them. Yes, small nipples are pretty, but I personally like large ones even more.
And same goes for large labia. Before I had ever had sex, I heard guys compare this type of vagina to some awful things. I thought something was wrong with me, I was so ashamed of my body, I hated it, when I was 12, I told myself I would never have sex or get undressed in front of anyone until I get a labiaplasty. But I learned to like it. Some time ago, I saw some pictures of really cute looking jelly mushrooms or some types of flowers and they reminded me of my vulva. I realized that my vagina is actually quite epic and it's like it resembles soo much that we can find in nature. Plus, I realized that the longer labia does actually enhance my experience, like it just feels nice to touch it?
My bf says I'm perfect and treats me like it, and any man that is lucky enough AND WORTHY OF being with y'all will say the same to you.
@@baddieMario77 "thankfully the rage i feel WILL prevent me from ever getting plastic surgery" made me laugh and is such a mood
@@baddieMario77girl i feel you…i have large areolas and i really dislike them. they’re very pale so they mostly blend in with my skin but you can definitely still notice it. i hate my boobs in general, theyre saggy but not even big :/ i’d like to get a break lift but i don’t think i will actually care enough in the future when i have money. never had any guys comment on it or my longish labia though, except when one guy told me i have a big clit! like damn thats a good thing, makes it easier for a guy to find it!!!
I love how you compare longer vulvas to flowers and mushrooms! Makes me feel better about myself 😅
Watching porn is the worst thing a man can do to his mind.
PREACH SISTER
Maybe not all porn, but definitely mainstream porn. That trash has done some real damage to a lot of men.
@@sethravillaofnisan9998No. All of it is bad.
Its not the male doctors or men driving this. its PORN and WOMEN. Its women who want to "perfect" every part of their bodies for vanity reasons. I guarantee no male doctor said "we need to fix ugly labias" The issue was medical;ized when women went to plastic surgeons and said they wanted "to be fixed" and said they dont like their labia and its making them depressed. (Because they watched porn) . Just like why there is a multi-billion dollar plastic surgery industry to "fix" every part of a woman's body.
Its normal for even 20 year old girls to get botox, lip injections, breast implants, face lifts etc these days. We are supposed to be more accepting of differences and diversity but so many young females in the prime of life and health are paying thousands to get all kinds of work done. Women seem to be less happy and wanting more plastic surgery options
At least in conservative times before the 1960's, the natural womens body was celebrated. Compare women from the 1950's like Marylin Munroe, Lauren Bacall to today.
Normal women were celebrated then, today all women in Hollywood have the plastic surgery look, big lips and botox even when they are young 20 year olds. We have female celebrity singers (like Cardi B) admitting to getting illegal butt injections. These are the role models of girls these days.
Women still ignore the experts warnings and get dangerous procedures done in 3rd world countries, they are literally risking their lives. Its not men pushing them to do it.
I never heard a guy in my entire life say he had to break up with a woman because she had an ugly labia.
By the way, I remember a female friend said she never goes to a female gynecologist. She said she doesnt want no female touching her genitals.. lol
@@sethravillaofnisan9998 all
I got a cosmetic (not medically necessary) breast reduction and I went to four different surgeons before I found somebody willing to do it. I have no trauma, no body dysmorphia, I just wanted smaller (but still a totally normal size??) breasts and they all treated me like I just escaped from the psych ward. and I just found it interesting that any one of those guys would've sewn foreign objects into my chest without a second thought 🤨
Wow. Breast reduction is pretty standard.
I recently got a breast reduction due to crippling back pain. It took me 4 years to get any doctors to sign off on it for my insurance to cover it.
Everyone, including the doctors, told me how much I'd regret it. That my breast were so perfect for being naturally large and that they likely couldn't match that.
It was so frustrating because, like you, I knew if I was naturally small chested, not a single soul would have been telling me I'd regret going larger.
At the end of the day it has been the best thing I've ever done. I even wish I'd gone smaller. But I let those people get in my head, and I thought I'd end up regretting the smaller size I initially asked for.
How insane is that people that don't know us, believe they know better about our own bodies but most importantly feelings, traumas, thoughts, etc..
@@khadeishab5383I saw my aunts reduction and honestly, stop promoting that, it was atrocious.
nobody mentioned anything about men liking or disliking fake boobs though? A plastic surgeon will definitely approve most women for breast implants before a breast reduction though which is the topic here.
My legs just zipped themselves closed
Hey, as someone who can change the size of their labia just by thinking it, you don't get a say here, Constable.
Odo? Cool! 😎
@@BS-vx8dgthats a good one 😂👏🏻
Omg, your username and pic. I love it
😭😭😭
Everyday another excuse about how not just aging but puberty ruins "women's attractiveness"
and then so does pregnancy and so does menopause.....
Your labia dose not grow during puberty 💀
@@oceanexblve884 it does, i had smaller inner parts when I was a kid and close to puberty they grew
@@oceanexblve884 for most girls it does
@@oceanexblve884 dose it not ? 💀
Listen up ladies. There is a young woman who had a labiaplasty and woke up with both numbness and burning in her clitoris(this can happen with nerve injury/neuropathy) after a labiplasty. This was due to damage to her dorsal branch of pudendal nerve. It has caused her so much trauma and pain. She now advocates for the medical community to understand clitoral anatomy and risks to it, with surgeries like labiaplasty. She isn't the only one this has happened to. Please, please think long and hard. The consequences of such a mostly totally unnecessary surgery could be catastrophic.
Exactly. The consequences can be HUGE. Why would anyone cut into their healthy body 😢
This is nonsense not a single plastic surgeon Who does it include this as a risk and there’s no documentation
@Mortablunt nonsense they don't relay the risk or nonsense in the sense you don't think it's a risk?
There are risks with every surgery but that sounds extremely negligent. There is no reasonable way for the dorsal branch of the pudendal nerve to be damaged during a labiaplasty. It should not be accessible. Such an injury sounds more likely with a vaginal rejuvenation or other more invasive surgery.
@nyssaarai1735 that's just not true. I had surgery on both my dorsal branches and know how the surgeon accessed it? Through fairly superficial incisions that ran the entire length of my labia major and under my the pubic bone. There's also accessory branches that aren't textbook and can have several differing patterns. And there quite a few anecdotal stories of women developing clitorial pain/numbness after this surgery and I tend to believe patients.
If you want to have it, have it. But many surgeons are woefully uneducated about the anatomy of the dorsal branch of the pudendal nerve, even those who do labiaplasties. So yes, that branches should be safe but there are plenty of sub par surgeons out there
I'm sorry, an association of mostly male doctors contributing to a body of literature that in practice serves to convince parents to get their kid a labiaplasty is just shocking and creepy.
It's so fucking gross. Not even little children are free from this.
Lol, aren't boys circumcised on mass in america bc people think it's "cleaner" or whatever?
Why is the gender relevant?
Even when women are told something is wrong or dangerous, they still do it. Just look at the BBLbutt lift thing You cant get it legally in the US so women pay non-professionals or they fly to some 3rd wprld country to get it done.
Its not just the west either, most cultures did/do crazy things in the name of beauty, like the Chinese practice of foot binding that started around the 10th century and lasted around 1000 years.
Native women put rings around their necks to male their necks longer which was supposed to be attractive, and all kinds of piercings. Some African tribes like Lobi have lip plates that supposedly makes women more beautiful.
It proves they've never fully aroused a woman if they've never seen "bubblegum" labia properly engorged. Lol.❤
Was trying to figure out why there would be an issue with labia being longer (more to play with) and then i remembered men just dont like women so now it makes sense
Most women don't like their labia being large either. To say men don't like women like its all men in general is pretty ludicrous. Most women don't like men uncircumcised so should I assume its because " Women don't like men"?
@@Naturefan354I'm a woman. I've never even thought twice about whether he's circumcised or not and have no idea which partners I've had that were or were not circumcised. It's just not something I give a shit about.
@@mishi144 Sure same here but I'm talking about the women who do say it?
@@Naturefan354 never heard a woman saying this i think they re rare. at least they dont make fun of these men or insult them.
@@Naturefan354 women are influenced by porn too not just men
Labiaplasty surgery has ruined my life. I trusted NHS doctors as a 15 year old child. I needed reassurance and education on vulva differences as a child, I did not need my labia completely amputated.
I am thirty years old now and my entire life has been ruined by having my pleasure taken from me by doctors.
Sexual sensation is so important for wellbeing and sense of self as a sensual being. I feel like I died aged 15 and now I'm just here until it ends.
Embrace your labia and love your body as it is.
It is nerve dense tissue not redundant tissue.
If you don’t mind me asking, did they do something to your clitoris as well? If so, that’s absolutely horrific. Also, seeing doctors do gender reassignment surgery makes me wonder if they can construct something for you. I’m so sorry if this comment was ignorant or insensitive at all, it was merely meant to be comforting and hopeful
I’m so sorry to hear this happened to you. Another example of men not understanding women besides what they “should” look like.
@@meganmoney3479 reconstruction won't replace the lost nerves.
The root issue is that the full layout and purpose of the nervous system in female outer and inner genitalia and female reproductive system is beyond current medical science/knowledge - this causes a lot of subpar care in a number of cases (hell some doctors still believe that there aren't any nerves in the cervix for example, despite recent studies showing very much otherwise).
@@meganmoney3479 Oh, the other big misconception that the clitoris is just the "pea in the pod" glans and not a big organ hugging vagina under the labia.
That sucks. Sorry to hear that.
Did you actively pursue the surgery back then or were they the ones who suggested/pressured you into it? How long did it take for you to start regretting your choice afterwards?
Hopefully anecdotes like yours and videos like this one help prevent others from going through the same experience in the future.
Got one at 14 bc my family told me it looked weird. Tried to get a hysterectomy at 23; was told no. So I can get my labia snipped 10 years ago but when I don’t want babies bc I live in a state with crazy abortion laws I can’t get one? Wild.
you experienced any difference afterwards?
USA is a horrible country to be born in
The first question that popped into my mind was just *how* your family knew your labia "looked weird". Were they examining your genitals? I don't know the whole story, but the whole thing sounds disturbing and inappropriate to me. You have my sympathy.
@@melissapinol7279 I was taking a bubble bath in my grandmas bathtub, I liked it bc it had jets. I was standing up to get dried off and my aunt was in there getting ready. She peeked over at me to see what I was doing cuz I got out kinda quick and went WOAH WHAT IS THAT. so that wasn’t very helpful. Then she went and told my mom, who told my grandma, who then all went on the FAMILY MORMON COMPUTER to google oversized labia. They’d never seen any other women’s genitalia, because they’re Mormon, so had no idea it was normal. It was no good all around.
why did they know what your vagina looked like?
This stresses me out because most of the time the “innie look” is suspiciously what children’s look like
that’s what i’m saying… i feel like it being considered the “perfect” kind is weird idk
Seriously, this is why porn should never be the standard and I don't know why so many people think it's representative of real life.
I treat porn like I treat superhero movies, brief entertainment that has no bearing on my life outside of the time it took me to watch it.
Exactly my tough.
The people w outies were born w it.
my god i just realized many beauty standards for women are like this? hairless.... short (small)... big eyes... i got to go.
I have an “outy” and spent my youth thinking there was something wrong with the way it looked. I thought I was quite literally deformed. As an adult I entered the sex industry as a stripper and have been in the industry for nearly a decade of my life. I can tell you from first hand experience that men truly do not care. Thousands of people have seen me naked and had a close look at my most intimate body parts and I have had ONE negative comment. If there is any comment it is that my body is “beautiful”. The rise in labiaplasty has to be at the hands of the media and plastic surgeons wanting to make more money. Very few men actually care, if you have experienced this I am sorry that has happened to you. It is not the norm though thankfully ❤
Yup.
This is so true! I’ve been a SW for years now and can count on one hand the amount of times anyone has ever said anything negative. The negativity definitely seems to be more prevalent online where these men kind hide behind their screens
Where do these men live? Most of my exes complained how it looked, including my ex-husband. My last relationship was 3.5 years long and never once did I allow him to see it. I can’t help but wonder if that helped with the longevity of our relationship, the second longest after my marriage. I’m too traumatized to ever allow another man to see it.
The OP is definitely a pretty privilege comment, lol. I agree & disagree. After guys reach a certain age then this is more true. Except for the kind of guys who cant accept rejection, & need to pretend afterward that they'd never actually been attracted to those women at all. This also only applies to beautiful/conventionally attractive women. It's an entirely different story for lesser conventionally attractive women. Imperfections are more scrutinized on heavier women for example. But when it pertains to female genitalia, you can easily find hundreds of thousands of blogs & posts from men, demeaning women's genitalia. I dont remember an outie ever being any kind of deal breaker for a conventionally attractive person... as a conventionally attractive outie bearer myself. I can vaguely remember really young kids teasing about it, but it probably has more to do with the culture, & whether an innie or outie is the norm. Kids are a-holes like that, they want to point out whatever is different. But I dont remember hearing anything negative about outies from older kids, teens, & adults. Just my personal experience tho.
Ok so the only reason you accept it is because men don't really care? 😂 OK got it. Not because you already know there's something NOT wrong with it. A man has to validate it.
They call it bumping uglies for a reason. I'm not butchering myself period.
True and to be honest men’s junk is ten times uglier😂
I love this phrase so much because it's so true. Neither pussy or dick are not the best looking part of human body.
Based
I used to really want a labiaplasty. I was fully prepared to go broke for it. This all ended when I realized I’d have to pay a man to make my labia look like what they wanted it to look like. It just grosses me out. The surgeons I went to for consultations all put heavy expectations of what they believed it should look like and I didn’t want to put myself in a vulnerable position with my most vulnerable parts knocked out on a table in front of a man that only got richer from my insecurities.
This is my attitude to plastic surgery in general. I refuse to pay some sleazy male plastic surgeon to mutilate me so he profits off my insecurities. No thanks.
I don't think men who say these kinds of things are really, truly are attracted to women.
Of course, a lot of this is condition through media and adult content, but still much of it is misogyny.
Imagine if we shamed men for how their testes hung. Imagine 'testes tightening' processes that draw balls up into a rounder, more attractive shape. Imagine how ridiculous that would be.
@@cherrycordiaII mean theirs penis enlargement surgery, idk how common it is tho. Plus there’s general penis size shaming although I don’t think the look is generally attacked. I do remember 4chan threads where dudes posted d¡ck pics and they would judge each other on aesthetics. Idk if it’s a general guy thing, severe loneliness/ fear of rejection or autism that drives them to be so obsessed over their body parts and those of women.
Agreed. I’m straight and if I’m getting intimate with a guy I find attractive, it’s not gonna make a big difference if he’s circumcised or not and what his nuts look like 😂 These ultra picky guys need to reevaluate their sexuality…
I agree but I would ask that people also acknowledge that there is plenty of shaming and misandry in relation to male genitalia. not to make it a tit for tat or whataboutism conversation but to say that they are different aspects of the same conversation. I will admit that the male end of this conversation is more discussed but also very socially acceptable often happening in a public forum. whereas it seems woman experience this more than men at an interpersonal level and i'm not sure what I think is worse, but both are examples of people being shitty to one another.
So what ? There are even lesser women who are truly attracted to males . So it goes both ways.
when I was first exposed to porn it made me so insecure that I genuinely thought about trying to cut my own vulva. my heart breaks for how young and uninformed I was to be considering something so horrific and downright dangerous.
me too
I did the same thing..
i thought something was wrong with mine when i was like 11 and actually had the scissors and was abt to buy then i got some sense and said maybe this is just how mine is😭
I got a real good slice in a couple years back while trying to cut them off myself. Hurt like hell so I had to stop! I still hate the way I look down there and would honestly love surgery, but I won't be doing it myself again!
@@amethyste684 I'm glad you changed your mind. I used to think I was the only one who had the thought of doing that as a young girl.
its rlly impressive how men can make me hate myself and my body almost instantly.
Stop giving other people power over you like that.
@@theab3957Unhelpful 'advice' for people struggling with self confidence. 'oh you have depression? Just be happy' ass advice lmao
Garbage men will say lots of things to make you lose your confidence because it makes you easier to exploit if you have low confidence. And some are just mean and get off on making others feel like trash.
Nobody deserves that, and you don't either. If you start feeling down about what they say, you can leave/turn off the phone/etc. You don't have to stay and you're not 'weak' for stepping back/refusing to engage or anything like that.
Spend your time & energy on talking/listening to/hanging around people you like or doing things you like. Let the men scream their throats out lmao, their opinion of your body doesn't matter, it's not their body. Your body will never belong to anyone but you and no one has any rights over it except you.
@@Silversnakesinthesunnot at all. Caring about men's low iq opinions is not comprable to an illness caused by chemical imbalances in your brain. At some point we have to learn to stop acquiescing to their judgment. It's not beyond your control.
@@Silversnakesinthesun not what was said at all. “Stop giving people power over you” is so much more powerful than “just be happy lol.” As someone who was once a people pleaser, that advice is helpful, and I needed to hear that way more than “just be happy” - it’s very different to me personally, the reality is we all have our own flaws so why would I listen to someone degrading me when they got their own issues? That’s what I get from that statement there.
i have an outie labia minora, and i am proud. whenever people make fun of “roast beef vaginas”, i do not fail to mention that i have one, and they always double down. it takes all women to stick up for themselves and not get these surgeries done for male validation to fix this issue. if a man has a preference on an innie vagina, he is probably a virgin because that’s rare to find.
my opinion of the human race decreases almost daily lately
@@joebrookesPatch Same. But the opposite. It made me hate men more than I already do. Which I didn’t think was possible. As if they couldn’t get more disgusting
I would also love if the human race decreased exponentially, like the particular misogynists not being able to procreate would be awesome..
Have you seen the videos about men randomly hitting women the the face for no reason?
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not so fast. isnt dis video about things that only happen in the us n uk?
I have a lot of insecurities, but if my partner openly told me he doesnt like my v., I would instantly loose all respect for him. Open communication, which may sometimes include criticism, is integral to any good relationship, but this has nothing to do with that. Such comments will lead to no self reflection or self improvement, just shame and insecurity. Im sorry but if you cannot accept an average looking human anatomy, you should not have sex. How could you ever grow old with partner who is so critical of me even at my 'biological best'
What's wrong with having a preference? There are certainly ways to go about this incorrectly, but if someone informs you that they don't like something about you - even if it's something you can't change - is not a bad thing per se. I've been told by partners that they'd prefer me to be taller. Does that mean I should instantly lose all respect for them?
@@madjarov42 yes, you should. Why would they want you to be different? If they wanted someone taller, they should have dated someone taller. They just settled for you, I guess
@@Elcolorado87 I think it's quite silly to expect anyone to meet 100% of your criteria, and drop them if they don't. Every possible partner will have something you don't like about them. Demanding perfection is childish.
of course its always man always having this ''its so silly to expect everyone to be perfect it's just preference!!'' in response to someone saying they would lose respect for their partner for reacting poorly to normal anatomy on conversation on a video quite literally detailing why women are taught to feel ashamed of their vulva. get out of here.
@@madjarov42 It's totally normal to not like every feature of your partner. But why the hell would you say it out loud, unless it's something that actually impacts you or the relationship negatively? If my partner had a feature I didn't like, I would never mention it cause I'd rather make them feel confident and loved than insecure and self conscious about insignificant shit.
Isn't it interesting how some men have expectations for the size of female reproductive organs because of a certain industry but are entirely nonchalant about the size expectations for their own because of a said industry and even say "they can't control it" and "you shouldn't judge by size"?😂 And only when it's for males, it's "unrealistic"
It's so stupid.
My thoughts exactly
You should reverse roles and you would be right. More women are judgind and have more unreal expectations on male reproductive organs than vice versa and in same time you cant say anything bad about them even if it something they can change if you do you are bad one. I just say if you want your partner to be unnatural top beauty become one last thing longer intercourse bigger d and smaller labia doesnt mean better intercourse
I don’t understand why a longer inner labia is considered ugly though. Like why? If you asked someone who says they don’t like it why what would they say? “I don’t like it because it sticks out”. That’s not a relevant reason to dislike something that is completely normal.
Its due to porn brain conditioning. They hate to admit the truth.
Also not all larger labias look the same at all so saying all of them are ugly is untrue plus I’ve seen many ugly innies before so idk why they actin as if they don’t exist too😭
@@samigrace18Why would you even comment this? No woman’s vulva is “ugly.” You’re no better.
My sister has one and she hates it because it causes her discomfort while exercising.
Does it? Or do her clothes make her uncomfortable? Its probably the latter.
It’s not like balls look amazing either 😂
Indeed!
Top tier comment 👏
poor comparison. most women want a nice-looking p*nis, and there's nothing wrong with us wanting that
😂 this should definitely be top comment
So true. Anyone administering plastic surgery should first be required to have the equivalent surgery & post their results to demonstrate the superior body. Labiaplasty -here they are, no longer insecure. Ballplasty. Check.
At some point in my early twenties me and a friend were talking about how we didn’t like men going down there because we had been told (especially by tv shows ) growing up that “oh it looks like raw meat “ or “it probably stinks “ to the point I just didn’t want anyone going down there like you know what. Which is odd because in all my life I was told men just have a musk and we should “appreciate “ the smell of a “real man” 😂 . It’s so odd the way we spend talking so bad about something men to be obsessed with getting but plainly uninterested In pleasing or even learning about it .
Exactly - in tv shows. I couldn't figure out why a lot of women wouldn't let me because I had heard it was 'the way' to get them ready/ they really liked it.
Same....
Women are (socially and sexually) expected to accommodate so much about men; it's rarely reciprocated.
Speaking of smells, I’ve always found it distressing that tampon companies sell scented tampons. Like whyyyyy?
@@AnonAnna-pz1kp and they make vagina smell weird. Kinda, it's already iumid because it's wet and sweltered, bloody, actually, hormonated blood, and I am aware how my vagina would smell, it's bloody, and that soapy flower artifical will not mask the smell, it'll just add this weird flowery artificial scent thing that usually is not even the healthiest thing to put in your pussy because of the chemicals, my pussy always smell worse in a longer term when i use them
So glad I'm autistic. Makes me immune to influencers.
Same here.
Same
Same here, as we are far more authentic, less able to be gaslit and brainwashed by colonialism?
@@TheSapphireLeo what colonialism🤣
@@TheSapphireLeo Bruh looked through his buzzword handbook and pulled out colonialism
i’ve recently started dating a new girl(wlw). she’s only ever been with men. i’ve only ever been with women. with the way she treats and talks about sex, i can so easily tell she’s been treated like livestock. she commented and compared the shape of our labias, and i was so startled and confused on how things that just don’t occur to me she seems to be so preoccupied with
I had a pap smear in September and my gynecologist recommended one for me and the commentary stung me. I had been mocked growing up from my younger cousin saw me naked. And to be told my insurance would cover it without asking him almost sent me into a tailspin. I smiled away his suggestion, but I wanted to cry.
That’s horrendous, I’m very sorry he said that.
this is why ive never been to a gyno... im 24
OMG thats so horrifying! im so sorry you experienced that. i refuse to see male OBGYNs, i don't trust their motives. You should report him for that comment if you feel safe doing so, that is such a disgusting misogynistic thing to say to a vulnerable patient in your care.
that's literally adding insult to injury...
report him
That Matt Rife bit was disgusting. Thank god I’m a lesbian because I cannot IMAGINE having to deal with anything as horrible as that
Its impossiblw to date as a self respecting straight woman
Matt Rife is saying crappy things on purpose so he can hype himself as "the guy who got cancelled" and market himself to redpill dorks.
lesbians are so lucky they dont have to deal with these males
I’m glad I’m a lesbian too
Is it bad to say I wish I was gay? Because I relate to women so much more, and no matter how masculine or feminine I am, there wouldn’t be a preconceived patriarchal REASON. I just want a partner who we can both just be human with each other
A quick glance at the thumbnail and I thought the video was about diet and junk food😂
SAME I WAS CONFUSED?!
Me too! It made me feel hungry lol.
I mean.. if you eat it too much, it is bad for ya. Throat cancer and all that. Mildly addictive.. it fits.
Considering how many people are obsessed with eating it, it fits imo
😂
I used to want this until I found a page called genitalanxiety and all these women would post their labia and how much their partners loved them no matter how they looked and it really helped heal my relationship with my own vulva
Is the page on Reddit?
@@jaclynjoy1234 t was on tumblr a looong time ago
@@jaclynjoy1234 Considering the lack of male redditors that can provide a healthy relationship, prolly not
Pornography has nearly ruined men - husband #3 was so addicted he spent most nights upstairs watching it past bedtime
Thank you for delving deep into this unbelievable situation for girls/women 😮
It's so refreshing to see a video that doesn't couch criticism of porn! Especially unregulated, I'd say its a definite net negative in society
I sincerely mean what I say when I tell you thank you for using the words "vulva" and "labia". I cannot even tell you how many times I've read--and heard--people call it simply "vagina" and it irks me. Too many people out there don't even understand anatomy whatsoever and then we're supposed to feel bad about those wonderful parts? Also, thanks Kid for covering this topic. It's not discussed enough. Love your vulva's if you have them. :)
I read Dr. Spock back around 1970, and he drove home this point so well that I have been afflicted now for 50 years with the urge to correct people but being unable to do so because being a public pedant is bad enough without it having to do with something deemed "too personal" to discuss.
@@BS-vx8dg No, go on and correct them! :) I got old and stopped caring about the delicacy of certain subjects. I've become much more frank about it when so much ignorance abounds.
Yes yes yes!!! It bothers me so much that the vulva is constantly referred to as the vagina😭
@@c1nnamonspider I'm really glad that I'm not alone in feeling this frustration.
No man calls his part wonderful despite it being a lot saner to look at than ur dragon ditch
6:02 like are those men even attracted to women at this point??????
Who do you think people with plastic surgeries are? 😂
many "straight" men genuinely hate women. they like the idea of owning a woman as a trophy or a housemaid more than having a relationship of actual love and attraction.
Could ask the same about woman with dumb standards, would be even more justified as more woman are bi
They like an idea of a woman
I start to think, there much more gay men than officially counted
I'm no doctor, but wouldn't having a bigger labia protect you from UTIs at least a little bit? Because they're big and cover your urethra better?
THATS WHAT IM SAYING
Yes, the labia minora close up the vaginal hole. If the labia is too small it wont be able to close over it and thus bacteria can enter the vagina. Its not good if the labia are too big (meaning it causes infections and believe me if the labia are the reason of the infections you know without a doubt.) but its honestly just as bad if not worse if they are too small. The labia minora are there to protect our entrance from nasty things and bacteria, its bad to cut it away
@@hilderenshof2476 uti's are caused by bacteria entering the urethra, not the vagina, but i get what you're saying
@@hilderenshof2476 UTIs are about bacteria going into your urethra, not your V, UTIs and vaginosis are two different beasts entirely. It's kinda hard to get vaginosis because vaginas are self-cleaning constantly and that's why vaginosis is way more rare than UTIs. Unless your labia is long enough to touch your anus somehow, I really don't see how it can lead to any kind of infection tbh, I'm assuming it's pretty rare too.
Like if your sitting down it protects everything too
When i was first going through puberty I genuinely thought that i was either turning into a boy or I had cancer. I was so embarrassed and scared and I didn’t understand why. Looking things up online didn’t help because I didn’t even know the terminology of my own anatomy, and any explicit content I found confused me more. I was scared of going to the doctor because I thought they were going to confirm my fears. I felt like I was going to get in trouble somehow. I was nervous about changing and nakedness. Way too many girls encounter similar situations because they’re not taught about their own anatomy. I still feel insecure about it even knowing it’s normal, and I wanted a labiaplasty for a while, but I just can’t risk it. This was a great video, I really needed it.
The same thing happened to me. Even until the video I didn’t realize how normal it is (50% being outies) and I’m almost 24. Definitely something I wish they talked about in sex ed or taught by parents because if larger vulva was not stigmatized it would help so many young girls confidence in their bodies and let boys know it’s normal too!
Reducing the labia minora? The first thing that came to my mind was FGM. In some types of FGM, they remove the labia minora completely or cut off a large part of them. This honestly grosses me out because I live in a place where the procedure is forced upon so many girls in the name of "becoming a woman" or to "tame women"
I'm honestly disgusted by this.
na, this is done purely for cosmetics
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that similar to female circumcision?
It basically is mutilation. Loss of pleasure
Labia plastic is actually considers legal fgm you can look it up
This is nothing but female genital mutilation. Men once again telling women their bodies are ugly and need to changed. Straight bullshit.😡😡
Hi, man here. Black man specifically. My experience with how women's vulvas look is almost exclusively with consuming explicit adult material from my youth (both in drawn/animated formats and with real entertainers/SW's). That being said, I've never been anything less than enamored/fascinated with how everyone of them looks different and yet still so amazing. There was a period of time where I was just looking at close up images and I gotta say, I disagree with the notion that they are ugly in any way, shape, or form. I know Matt Rife made that comment about how he felt about how some look and was salty when he got backlash for it, and I've heard from time about the meme of not liking roast beef or whatever. But for what it's worth ladies: if a man is truly so concerned and rude about how you look down there that he compares you to adult entertainers that have had cosmetic surgeries and suggests that you get one yourself, he's not right for you. That and most women that get labiaplasty tend to regret it for one reason or another. It's not worth it and it never was. Please love yourself as your bodies. You're the only you that you have.
As a black women I love this comment especially because there’s so many memes of people comparing our vulvas to roast beef :(
Roast beef is tasty and yummy. Men that have such an issue w it seem dl to me tbf
This roast beef curtain queen loves your comment!
@@ncd313Unfortunately, intimate area lightening or vaginal bleaching is becoming more popular particularly with women of colour.😔
Thank you so much for this message, best of luck to you
Couple years ago I had a guy make me feel so bad about my labia that I took a razor and tried to cut them off myself. I couldn't afford labiaplasty and was desperate to feel pretty and perfect. Didn't go well! I wish I could reverse the mental damage the internet has done to me when it comes to how I view my labia. It's really sad that so many women are made to feel like this because of something so small and insignificant. I really wish I could convince myself that I'm fine the way I am
You're more than fine the way you are. Your value is not determined by what some guy thinks of you.
He was probably a narcissist. If you got a labiaplasty or whatever done he would have complained about something else and hint hint you’ll never do enough to make him happy some men intentionally tear at you so you feel so bad about yourself you won’t leave him or you go on this crazy journey to try to do whatever it takes to make him happy because he never shuts up about it. No matter what you do it won’t be good enough for him. They will drive you insane trying to make them happy all for them to goalpost you. The game is NOT meant to be won. It’s just to tire you out trust me I was with my husband 15 years all together and I ran myself insane trying to make him happy and for him to stop complaining.
It's ironic that psychological effects of social stigma are attributed to the vulva itself, but when I have actual physical problems with my vulva, doctors attribute them to psychological causes.
This is so infuriatingly frustrating. When I was a teenager in boarding school some girls tried to make this normal thing a problem and I shut it down quickly and left the bathroom but some girls stayed to be told there was something wrong with them. I hate that the internet amplifies the voices and opinions of the worst of us. I am even more annoyed that there are people who will listen to anyone who tries to tell them how they should be. I will never relate.
These are the beliefs of white people.
This explains why when Europeans came onto our shores and came into power, they immediately passed laws that we put on MORE clothing.
Black men believe, the more vulva and labia the better.😊
Sad other girls were spearheading that
@@RaebrainedThey actually almost always do. Then later blame men. Change starts at home.
@@bannedmann4469 I'm aware since I am a woman and all 🤨 Men do NOT help either. Same how men be insecure about their penis size but want to later blame women. At the end of the day the blame is on society. They make money off of surgeries and enlargement pills.
@@bannedmann4469yes, by avoiding men who use porn.
labiaplasty is so horrifying tbh🥶
kiss little baby
Reminds me of the scandalous cuttings they do/did in Africa--- just saying.
considering your entire nether are exposed while you are out cold, and worst case scenario, you get a bunch of creeps who do weird stuff to you
i went trough one. i'm alive and better than ever.
My bike's saddle has a "soft tissue" hole in the center. It is a woman specific seat by Specialized. They understand women better than medical professionals.
It's a trend in bike saddles in general , not just women's specific.
@gur262 there are men's and women's and yes they are gender specific. My husband thought he might like mine, quickly realized he did not.
@@mairamanwaring9419 read again. No. You are wrong I am right. I am talking about the hole in the saddle. Women specific saddles exist but that hole is not specific to women's saddles
@gur262 I never said it was. But this video doesn't concern men. Nobody cares about your balls, which should go to one side or the other, not in a hole. My saddle not only has the soft tissue hole but is also more narrow to fit my sit bones. Again, my point is that a sporting goods company has studied a woman's anatomy more carefully than medical professionals. Just like Merrell shoe's won me over by making the heal more narrow compared to the toe box, which is the natural shape of a woman's foot compared to just shrinking a man's shoe to fit a woman. The physical build of a man and a woman is so different that it takes hundreds of surgeries to fully transition between the 2 sexes. Blair White goes through what she has had done on the Roseanne Barr podcast, and she is only halfway through her transition.
@@gur262 "You are wrong and I am right" you are a child, is what you are.
I had this surgery done when I was 18 back in 2006. I thought I was deformed after watching porn. I saw a plastic surgery show where doctors were talking about it and I booked the surgery.. I'm 35 now. I had 2 years of horrible complications I wasn't sure I'd ever recover from, but I finally did. I've read other women's stories on reddit who weren't as lucky as me. I wish anyone would have told me I was normal. I wouldn't have had it done. I think this is a medical ethics issue. There is a really poor understanding of female anatomy in the general culture and even with some medical professionals, combined with a huge monetary incentive here.. I never thought I'd see anyone make a video about this. Thank you❤ If any women in the comments had a similar experience and want to reach out, please do :)
Thank you for your input, it's SO important to mention the complications because doctors couldn't care less apparently, on the contrary it seems that they want to make it look as effortless and concequence-less as possible! I'm really glad that you finally recovered, too
I really hope your comment gets pinned more people need to know about your experience
Thank your for sharing your story. ❤ I’m very sorry what was done to you. 😢 It’s criminal. Your comment needs to be pinned.
what complications???
I had the wedge method and for some reason my lymphatic vessels got cut, and I developed swelling that didn't go down enough for me to walk with my legs together or sit comfortably for several months. I dropped out of school for a semester and returned once it started to get better. After a couple years my lymph vessels finally rerouted themselves. Scarring and skin stretching from the swelling. @@m4r1nkaa
I was in the control group for a study on UTI's. You know what they never asked? "How big is ur labia minora?"
Seriously, the reasons they give for patients "NEEDING" a labiaplasty are ridiculous
But it is true, sorry.
@@cheesecake4648me with an outtie and never had a uti or infection in my life 😂
@@cheesecake4648 Can you explain how you believe a longer labia could cause a UTI? I'm waiting.
Videos like this are so important for women to hear. There is nothing wrong with you and if your sexual partner says there is, then they aren't right for you.
I as a 17 year old girl can say that I've never had these thoughts because I've never watched a porn and wasn't physically intimate with anyone. Yes, I had and still have insecurities with my looks (for example my face or body like waist or thighs) but at this point I'm healing and becoming mature enough to accept myself. I cannot imagine what it would have done to me if I was insecure about my intimate part at such young age. And I can't believe these surgeries are performed on literal children, girls who are 15 years old or younger. It's truly the fault of the open oversexualization and the porn industry.
36:08: "Even pretending you aren't catering to male fantasies is a male fantasy: pretending you're unseen, pretending you have a life of your own, that you can wash your feet and comb your hair unconscious of the ever-present watcher peering through the keyhole, peering through the keyhole in your own head, if nowhere else. You are a woman with a man inside watching a woman. You are your own voyeur." - Margaret Atwood
Really great video. Subscribed.
Yeah we are like Big brother in feminist fantasy novels. Thats a pretty cool imagination you have.
@@fantuswitt9063Keep showing everyone in these comments your 2 whole brain cells, bub.
Isn’t that Simone de Beauvoir?
The great thing is that when you reach menopause, this all goes away. Did for me anyway.
Wow....
I have seen it almost socially accepted especially by men that lip size has to do with number of partners or promiscuity. it shows how more exposure doesn't always mean learning more about reality. It can also lead to insane misconception. If lip size grew with activity this would have been one the most well known human phenomena as billions of men through history have been with the same woman for decades and had multiple children with them, sometimes 20 plus kids. Why has this never been given a medical name, the lips transformation with use? Because it doesn't exist. But some people will insist on continuing to believe that lip size correlates with activity, number of partners, etc. Ridiculous.
This is also something I've heard a lot from dumbasses and I'd bet it has something to do with why larger labia are considered ""less attractive"" by some.
Amen to that!
At the end of the day, we are letting people with no true experience nor understanding of life tell us how things are and should be. A quick check on reality can dispell all those misconceptions instantly. I'm seriously thinking of starting my own YT channel lol!
and yet porn stars dont count according this misconception.
It's called misogyny.
In fact, I am pretty sure the lips shrink with age after menopause. Like, atrophy.
It’s so horrible being told such an intimate part of you looks like “raw meat”
I was insecure with my outie for years, researched labiaplasty as a teen. but then I met my current boyfriend and when he first saw it he was so amazed. he fell in love with it, telling me it's so beautiful- she looks like the a pretty flower with the biggest petals, like a hibiscus flower... and that is when I learnt I can like them too. girls, don't settle for less. find yourself the one who admires your vulva like it's the prettiest flower he's seen or send him home
A guy here. Had no idea women were so burdened by this and I've been around the block so to say. All of them (vulvas) are beautiful and if I really must choose then I like them a bit "meaty". Apologies for possibly wrong choice of words.
Perfectly ok to like them THICC 😉
@@teacupdreams5735your cat is good looking 😂
SOME women are burdened by this. Wheareas some, like myself, feel that if you have time to look, you have time to lick, get to work or get a slap, you filthy swine.
@@talkingtochapri 😂
They won't say the same for un circumcised part of men
This is absolutely horrific, why is there always an attack on women and girls. We are all different in every way. Not even twins have the exact same body parts and fingerprints 😢
It’s everyone, men get absolutely dunked on based for small sausage size. Insecurities and sexual selection will never fade away from society. It’s not an attack, it’s just the same madness with new technology
Cope 😂
@@alejandrodelgado5829 ?
@@alejandrodelgado5829It’s not cope. It’s a valid argument. It’s clear that you’re not here for an intellectual conversation. 😊
@@207humanity when a woman is in dog position and the man push and pull, is easy to the see the lips strech out. Sorry my english
i am a trans woman who has had bottom surgery, and you would think having my vagina and vulva entirely cusom made, it would have been "perfect" , but even i fell for the current ideals and had a labiaplasty as a revision surgery due to my labia minora being asymmetrical. the revision was as much if not more painful than my inital gender affirmation surgery.
As a non American, when i started watching porn in my early years I failed to realize that most male porn actors were circumcised and thought that the "mushroom" penis look was normal, so for a long time I thought that my penis looked strange. I guess what I'm saying is it can go both ways.
Kind of. Except most women aren't attracted to a specific type of penis. In fact most women are only attracted to a penis because of whom it's attached to. Not for it's own sake.
it goes both ways for sure! but cutting your penis to specifically make it looks more like a pornstar’s penis isn’t a global thing, unlike with the labia
Yes it can. You are enough the way you are. The person you are supposed to be with would not care about that.
Indeed, it seems to be mostly normal in america to mutliate young boys. I agree that labioplasty is bad, but its double standards when FAR more boys are mutilated than women. At least its not really seen as normal for women, hence this very video and anger. But for boys? very few care. Entire religions are bult around the practice in a way that just isnt true for girls. Call me a nutter if you will, but i think ALL mutilation should stop. IF a woman wants it done? Then thats her choice, its as daft as boob jobs, but again....less outrage there.
Also as minor correcton to the video, the lady accidentally (im sure) ignores the other interpretations of Sheela Na Gigs that don't line up with her point. Fertility symbols, ancient goddesses , they were as likely to be symbols of power and a bit of sneaky paganism hidden in plain sight (along with green men) as they were to have negative feminine conotations.
personally as a virgin i wouldnt mind if he has foreksin or not, he is not a sex object he is a person
I always figured it was misogyny and pedophilia because pre pubescent girls have the innie look. Mine looked like that until i was going through puberty. I had a partner tell me my labia were long because i was promiscuous... said in the initiation phase of sex. We were 17. It really messed me up for a while.
Edit: This is not a statement of fact, obviously. You don't need to reply impulsively and expose your lack of reading comprehension to my comment.
Edit 2: For those of you who cannot resist showing up to antagonize me on a comment you've chosen to take the wrong way, I'll say this once here. I made this comment in reference to my own thought process that involved limited and personal experience ( aka my own body, and from being a mother ). It has been suggested in popular thought that most men prefer traits that suggest youth in women, and is further influenced by culture and media. That is the idea I meant to echo here relating to my thought process above. I literally said " I always figured" - that is not a statement of fact.
Mine never did.
@@sbocaj22never looked like an innie? Hmm. Maybe it's genetic.
Why must it be either of those things assuming it's not extreme? People just find some things more attractive than others. Don't think it makes you a bad person, seems like a projection to me.
@@kr3642 ya. Always been an outtie. Hated it cuz I get caught on everything I’m wearing and it hurts lol. But ya probably genetics
@@nicholascoob1350 are you saying that adults being attracted to prepubescent features doesn’t make you a bad person?
Btw studies show that uti’s sometimes but even more so, yeast infections, are often caused by men as well. Many penises are pretty dirty because they don’t have worry about being as affected by infection as it’s on the outside of their body and not inside so it doesn’t become as inflamed as it would for women. They just give cute names to men’s yeast infections like “jock itch” but it’s a yeast infection and many times they go around giving their partners yeast infections which affect them even more if they have a vagina, as it’s internal at that point.
This is so true, I’ve heard this before too. While with my ex I constantly got them. With my partner now, never. I also believe it was my body’s way of telling me he was not right for me, so maybe a combo of him being dirty and that.
Some of them don't even know how to wash properly, especially if they never had a father that showed them. Most don't even wash after pooping, I know it's not something you can always do but... and after that they say women are dirty and there is nothing you can do about it
Thought exactly the same thing. AND on top (wich happened to me): My ex partner gave me a yeast infection, and I went to the GY and she said: "You need to tell him, he needs to get some meds for that as well, and needs to be more careful with his hygene in the future".... when I told him: He blamed me. Thanks.
I noticed that a lot of the time I would get yeast infections after having sex… I honestly STILL thought that there was something wrong with me for it always happening like that but now I see that itnprobably was the guy’s fault 😓 sheesh
Fax’s I got two kidney infections and utis all the time with my ex now that I’m single it hasn’t happened since
I’m of a “certain age”, and I value my pubic hair (as does my husband). I don’t care if women choose the pre-pubescent look for themselves, but I feel like it was conditioned into the majority of them.
Our body hair serves important functions, and if you shower daily, it stays nice and clean, just like the rest of you.
The conditioning part is so true. But it’s hard to tell for sure, and I struggle with being respectful sometimes because I want girls and women to know that they might have convinced themselves they shave for themselves even if they haven’t. I know that can’t be the case for everyone, but I just want everyone to be happy and healthy without any outside influence
I’ve never looked at other labias but I’ve never had a problem with mine. Can’t imagine this being a thing.
Any man that has been close enough to see it has been blessed.
I got married at 19 to my 27-year-old wife who had two children and a tubal ligation in 1988. Being a nerd, I immediately went down to the library and checked out every book on women's health and human sexuality. My wife was impressed and learned a lot about her body her parents and teachers hadn't covered. I have no problem with any form of genitals. While my wife experimented with shaving and waxing, it was more exploratory and sexual rather than shame based. She settled on trimmed natural for hair to limit chafing and zipper-pulling. We discussed cometic surgery but never seriously. She was mainly sad to be unable to bear another child. I was more than happy to be a stepdad.
I frown on almost all aesthetic (what a loaded word) surgeries. This trend is disturbing.
Edit: For those following, we remained happily married until her death in 2019 after 33 years together. I see my four grandchildren daily.
lol now a days people would say you were groomed with that age gap. Well, not really. They never care when it’s men..
@@bannedmann4469nah i was thinking i'm sad for them... deffo a gross age gap without any context
You sound like a very level headed and down to earth guy. I respect that.
@@bannedmann4469no he was definitely groomed and trust me a lot of people care
@@bannedmann4469I mean, yeah, it is creepy. She was almost 30 and he was a teenage kid.
Well, """comedian""" Matt, he's not fucking funny, he's disgusting about what he did speaking about his ex partner like that. Bro everyday I trust men less.
I would hit back w you must be more into a trim back entrance and stay away from women
Well men and women are fundamentally no different so you're doing yourself a disservice by thinking one is worse or better than the other.
At least the lowest common denominator males are going mask-off nowadays.
Still: snoop, pay for a background check, use his laptop, talk to his friends, and check his phone(s). You don't want to end up with him for a year only to find that he's a covert Tate stan.
@@Naturefan354you can’t deny patriarchy plays a big role in how men and women perceive and treat each other
@@Naturefan354 Its easier to stick with other women. Not really disservice
I can't believe I used to consider Labiaplasty when I was younger. As I hit puberty, my labia began to develop, and I felt incredibly insecure about it. I thought something was wrong with me. But as I've grown, I've realized the importance of loving my body just as it is. Looking back, considering surgery feels like such a wrong mindset. I'm still on a journey of self-love and acceptance, and I'm learning to appreciate and celebrate my body more each day
I've been asked by a female gynocologist if i felt bothered by the size of my labia. I had never even considered it until that point. It was highly inappropriate. I was 18!
when i was around 11, my mom gave me a puberty info book. i was looking at the diagrams of the female anatomy and i noticed they were all unlike my parts. i got scared that there was something wrong with me and i felt too embarrassed to talk to my mom about it, so i went to grab a pair of scissors to “fix my parts”. thank goodness i only made it half a snip in before i mutilated myself because of course it hurt like hell. its really sad that completely normal body parts are seen as gross or abnormal. if someone refuses to date you because of your genitalias appearance, they arent a mature person(this goes for both men and women).
people are allowed to choose to date people they find attractive. both men and women. are we gonna start trying to force women to date men with p*nises they find unattractive?
I'm so sorry you had that experience! I used to think about doing that too when I was younger. I just got the surgery.
@@briana5772 i hope your surgery heals well! i still think about getting it if i ever have the money for it. the shame about stuff like this really sucks 😭 i know most men dont care but i still feel so ashamed that i stay celibate because of it hahaha
Thank you @@sarah-kj5jx!! I ended up recovering after a couple years and was very lucky to have healed so much. I never experienced men caring about this at all and went on to have a totally normal sex life. Longer labia are perfectly natural. The pain isn't worth it and I prefer how I looked before. One of the strangest things is that despite having the skin removed, during the healing process it actually grew back close to the original shape and size. Almost like my body knew what its unique healthy design was.
@@sarah-kj5jxits realy disgusting
The diagnosis labial hypertrophy is scientifically INCORRECT.
Hypertrophy is when an organ becomes bigger because the individual CELLS of an organ become bigger than the original baseline (but the number of total cells remains the same). Outies do not have this. No cells are swelling or getting larger.
Hyperplasia is when an organ’s size increases because the normal sized cells increase in number (more cell division) from the original baseline. Outies again do not apply because this is the normal baseline.
Megaly is a suffix that means organ enlargement in a more general way and it is sometimes used to compare organ size to other individuals (eg acromegaly, extremity enlargement from growth hormone issues) so if anything this should have been used but since half of all women have outies this makes no sense either.
These surgeons can’t even remember the most basic definitions from medical school when pathologizing women’s bodies.
I would never let someone like that near me with a knife.
Thank u ❤ Such a great and insightful comment. I didn’t even know this. 😮
@@207humanity you are very welcome ❤️
The definition of a double blind study: two plastic surgeons reading an ECG.
@@peterc4082can you explain? Not sure I get it
@@Wavewave583 A double blind study in scientific research is when neither the subject (participant) nor the attending investigators (staff) know what they've been assigned to. Usually research involves using the investigational product (what we're testing) and a control (sometimes a placebo- something which is the old treatment or established treatment or no treatment). In a clinical study one wants to know whether the new thing is better than placebo or old thing. A study is double blind when neither the subject nor the investigator are told whether the subject is on the medicine which is being tested or getting the control. But the joke here is that surgeons are bad at medicine (interpreting ECGs) and they are both blind (don't know what it is they're reading- both clueless). So they're both looking at an ECG and both don't know what's going on. :) It's a medicine vs surgery/orthopedics joke. The surgeons will respond and say: at least we cure our patients, which is kind of true because medicine often does not cure but helps to manage while surgery can actually cure problems for good, eg taking out a cancer will cure it. Medicine = medical specialities which don't cut people, eg internal medicine, rheumatology, cardiology, etc, Surgical = orthopedic, surgeons of various kinds, OBGYN, etc.
My boyfriend is the first person I've ever been with.
I was incredibly scared of his reactions because I had no idea of sex (didn't really have SexED in school) and I was so afraid of how he'd perceive my body. My breast is asymmetrical and so are my labia.
I'm so incredibly grateful that he is not one of the men who have their views distorted by Pr0n. He was shocked about how I talked about my own body and he's helping me explore my sexuality and body and get rid of those weird views that I had internalised.
I'm so glad and love him so much.
I feel for all women who think they must change their bodies for men. I myself can only get rid of that idea in the smallest steps...
okay well I had mine at 18. Didn't want it because anyone made fun of me, not because for a boyfriend, not because porn influenced me. Did it because it was literally rolling in on itself and causing a very painful pinching effect. Unless you have felt that pinch on a very sensitive area for your entire life, I'm not sure if there's room for judgement. I definitely think there shouldn't be a huge industry around it, especially not when so many people have been bullied because of it... but like can we please leave room for people that wanted it for their own reasons and it worked for them?
In the words of my friend, "Coochies are coochies and all coochies are cuties"
When everyone is special, no one will be..
@@bannedmann4469 oh, trust me, you males manage to make all of us feel "special"...
every
single
one of us...
unfortunately.
😂😂😂
That's a real one
Anyone that needs to hear this today, you’re hot babe you aren’t ugly. Drink your water and brush your hair and teeth today, remember that any loser who makes rude comments about your body is probably just unhappy with themselves. Someone out there will love you the way you are. Now I’m gonna listen to this and workout, keep killing it out there to whoever reads this comment ❤️❤️❤️
Thanks 😊
Thanks and keep slaying with those workouts, you got this!!
So sweet ❤
You're so sweet❤
Thanks Emil, you're my favourite character in the NieR universe. ^^
As a man I can't imagine what kind of man will dump a woman when he finds her labia isn't good looking? That's insane.
The same kind of person that would dump their partner for having a small penis.
I love that you touched on "thong feminism". It is something I always noticed but didn't know it had its own term
In my culture(african, zimbabwean sotho) you have to pull your inny so it becomes an outie because that is how women are taught the vulva to look like. Men I taught to look for that as it is a sign of a 'well-groomed' lady worthy of marriage. You normally should start pulling(that is how we call it) at the age of 11 or even earlier but it should be before you start your period.
That being said most men in my culture have said it makes no difference but most women are left to wonder what it would feel like to have actually done it.
This to say I find it interesting how it is shamed to have an outie in the west.
When I was a child I had the horrible memory of a surgery and I remember having a sponge bath. As an adult I asked my mom what that was and it was to make my belly button an innie 😮 apparently my umbilical chord was not cut enough for the standard western look
@@757Princessthere’s a term for it! It’s an umbilical hernia!
@@757Princess man, that must've been tough. i can't imagine putting a child through such a invasive surgery purely for cosmetic reasons😭😭😭 I hope your surgical wounds healed up alright, i had my first medical surgery in 9th grade and i still have a giant scar because the doctors were rushing me to get out and didn't clean it properly. i couldn't bathe properly for months because of it😥
i never even knew having an innie or an outie was a factor when considering the desirability of a woman before today lol. As an asian person who was raised on western beliefs, its certainly strange to me that girls would go out of their way to change such a little-seen part of the body but it's relieving to know that whatever is considered unattractive in one culture is likely to be desirable in another. i wish someone could've taken me aside as a young girl and told me that beauty standards are in fact, very very malleable.
makadi?
you speak the truth. I've spent decades in southern africa; primarily zambia, malawi, moz, but also zim. outies are nice.
osayopa, akazi. gwira malepe. kikikikikiki.
Truth is, childbirth can change the whole situation down there. Marry a quality guy who finds you attractive no matter what may happen.
Fuck that shit !
I’m a lady with an “enclosed” labia, and tbh I was shocked to see an outer labia for the first time because I had no idea what vaginas looked like other than my own. I think pornography has ruined the minds of a lot of men and women, who believe human anatomy is meant to be one particular standard and anything outside of that standard is abnormal. I find people struggle to accept and embrace difference, so find ways to rationalise their ignorance and hatefulness. I think the comments referring to inner labias as pubescent is equally as disrespectful.
Doesn't it also show that someone really messed up the naming when "over 50% of women have labia minora that is larger than their labia majora"
Maybe change that (looking at whomever is responsible for the Latin names)?
I remember as a teen I thought I had some kind of growth when my labia made itself known to me. Sex Ed at school never mentioned how varied labia can be.
Not even five minutes into the video and I am SHOOK... astounded... as a woman and I didn't even know this was a real thing happening out there, I LOVE MY VULVA JUST THE WAY IT IS, it's perfect, everyone's is perfect
Yeah - don't even think twice about it. The only place I've ever heard men talk about labias visually being a problem in my over 50 years on this earth is in 'shock' podcasts or whatever you would call them.
There are some weird opinions, topics, and preferences that come out highly urbanized chatty classes of men.
When we were teenagers there were a few giggly conversations when the first guys who talked about girls they had sex with (which was the minority) ran into a woman who had really long meaty lips or 'dude check her out' while watching a porn but I never heard anyone calling them gross - the general tone was definitely excited.
Yes, I'm a woman and I also lived in blissful ignorance until recently. I think it really depends on the social circles you live in...
Yes. This is out of control. These way more important things to worry about than this! Yours is perfect! People are insane.
I feel the same about mine, though I’m pretty sure when I was in college I did hear a few guys who thought it was funny to make “roast beef” jokes about women amongst themselves, which did stir a bit of insecurity in me as someone still learning to love that part of my body.
Just a few short years later, though, and I could not care less about it for me personally. My body is perfectly fine as is, and anyone who can’t respect that doesn’t deserve to have that kind of relationship with me. I would absolutely never even consider a labiaplasty unless it were for a legitimate medical reason.
@@jeffa847 there is a possibility that the men in yall lifes aint that different its just they dont say this to you
Videos like this remind me of why I so much love to consume video essays. I admire the research, passion and time that is behind works such as this. Thank you for sharing with all of us.
I love that you make videos on things a lot of people don’t want to talk about.
The UTI part reminds me of how people say circumcision is "cleaner." Like, is it really that MUCH cleaner? Or is it an aesthetic thing?
let’s talk about weaponized incompetence! whenever I talk about this topic, some random comes to me saying that I’m disrespecting certain religious beliefs, but even excluding those, a LOT of parents are getting their son circumcised for the convenience of not teaching him how to properly clean himself.
unless there’s some medical condition, we shouldn’t be circumcising children left and right
fr gimme my foreskin back. i want answers
Smegma
@@Madamchief oh please. smegma happens due to bad hygiene. vulvas also get something similar if not washed properly or often enough. that would be like justifying removing someone's teeth because of "bad breath". ludicrous
@@Madamchiefmost places outside America don't do circumcision outwith for health reasons or religion and only dirty men are going to have that.
Please know: regardless of what your labia looks like, there’s always plenty of people who SEEK OUT your anatomy and adore it. Just because someone said something rude, don’t get surgery. Every vulva is unique and desirable!
Yeah there’s a category on PH for it
@@heidizuri what's PH?
@@qjames5808its an abbreviation for a certain p*rn site
@@qjames5808I think PH means p*rn hub.
And please stop cutting yourselves up! FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!
regarding chafing and so on i have an "innie" and i have plenty of chafing when riding a bike or a horse, especially when i'm on my period. it's so unethical for doctors to sell what is a purely aesthetic surgery for "comfort" reasons. straddling something can be uncomfortable because it just is. it's also uncomfortable for people who have penises. almost like it's an inherently uncomfortable position for humans to be in.
I'm 27 and I just discovered this whole labia convo for the first time. I'm glad I didn't know all of these things before. 🤣 Key take away from this is that my labia is normal.🙌🏾
I learned back in the '70s that it is easier to avoid getting hairs in your mouth during cunnilingus if the woman has large inner labia.
Makes sense cause they’ll cover the hairy outer labia. Which ig isn’t an issue if you have small inner labia and get completely waxed down there 🤔
Lol that’s awesome
I like hair though.
@@SleightWryder Hey, I like the *look* of hair (and would *never* be with a woman who waxed or shaved down there). But that's different than getting one stuck on the back of your tongue.
@@BS-vx8dgfair enough
I love my meat flaps and I keep her furry because it's cold in Michigan. 😂 Please don't listen to these men. They don't know what they like.
@@hyperadapted ya mama liked it.
My abusive ex bf criticized my parts because I have kind of an outtie. It gave me so much insecurity then he was outed as a r*pist and I realized that I shouldn't let a sx offernder looser dictate how I feel about my body
Yuk
@@mattghostly5261 Like ya breath.
@@xVadRay Love yourself. There's men and women out there looking for someone like you. Fvck the nay sayers.
I normally don't comment on YT, but as someone who had this procedure done purely for medical reasons, I'd like to add some perspective for those who might be wondering what leads to such a decision.
I have multiple conditions that caused chronic tearing, injuries and further chronification of pain (Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome, severe genital seborrheic eczema, treatment-resistant vulvodynia). I couldn't even walk at times and I'd bleed frequently from injuries. I loved my natural vulva despite what some men would say, and I would have not opted for surgery if I didn't have such a low quality of life due to these circumstances. I even created art and started a very small movement with a couple of artist friends to help others and spread awareness on the wide variety of vulvas before my issues got this bad. I chose the most modern type of procedure at the time to achieve the most natural looking result, and I do not regret having this surgery as it did in fact improve these physical complications for me a lot.
I also want to add that not everyone has conditions down there that are treatment-resistant, and that the causes should be addressed first by a competent professional. Something simple as a change of lifestyle/fashion choices may even do the trick for some - Just look at the super tight underwear/trousers advertised for women. And I'm sure many more examples could be made here.
Having that said, I think it's so important you're talking about this and I'm glad I found your video. There needs to be more awareness of this twisted perception on vulvas with visible inner lips. My heart goes out to those who feel pushed by others/society to get this surgery purely due to cosmetic reasons. Thank you for making this video.
Comparing the findings--rather the opinions--of male an female doctors is so revealing! We would all benefit from such a comparison in many areas of medicine. Urology, psychiatry and of course OB/GYN are all areas that need reassessment.
I read a book called Infidel in which the author discusses her and her siblings genital mutilation as children, it was one of the most horrific and sad things Ive ever read, gruesome sht
Everything you say is true, but it should be pointed out that the book actually covers many years of her (Ayan Hirsi Ali) life, and that the FGM she endured is a small part of a very, very important book.
Too many men claim that FGM is the same as male circumcision.
They love spreading misinformation and try to erase girls and
women's suffering
The ‘discomfort when horseback riding’ thing is so funny lol. Like, that’s really the best you could come up with? 😭
Like dauym, it's such an affordable and everyday hobby for the majority of us. Now that you mention it, I will definitely book a surgery! 💀
How about cycling? Lots of women hurt while cycling, Ive always wondered why, because I myself never have had that problem.
@@sea.imagineeringI do get hurt while cycling
@@umi2751 do you have an outie or innie? 😆
The more prominent of "padding" you have, the more comfortable it would be, no? And it seems like nobody is getting, um, "transplants" to the area, especially not for aesthetic purposes.
Seems like the opposite of what they're attempting to advertise..?
Glad to see how this there was handled.
It enrages me how new insecurities are created into women’s head to get profit, how the standard of beauty is idealized in every inch of the body of the women, how each part should look a specific way.
I think shaming people for body parts that can only be changed with unnecessary hardcore surgery is just as disgusting as shaming people for their aesthetic and sexual preferences (as long as it isn’t pedophilia or zoophilia or any other harming preference) because they cannot also not be changed even with extreme conditioning
This topic needs an entire Netflix documentary.
A female anatomy series at that
I saw a documentary on it but the comments were filled with angry men 🙁